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Why Men Today Have 30% Less Testosterone | Dr. Stephen Sanders | DSH #1861

15 Mar 2026

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Chapter 1: What is the concept of 'sex span' and why is it important?

0.031 - 20.964 Dr. Stephen Sanders

Sex span, think of it as performance. How you perform long time from an intimate standpoint. They like to brag like I'm getting four hours of sleep. Fantastic. But what you're doing is you're losing 15% of your testosterone. 25% of those guys said, I have felt lonely pretty much every day, having anxiety. That's not okay. So we are missing a lot of community and men's health.

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21.125 - 33.722 Dr. Stephen Sanders

And it's vital to mental health. The data tells us that men don't engage with healthcare. They don't like the healthcare system. And when they do, they get dismissed because they go in and they have this complaint and then they're told they have normal labs and go home and that's just normal aging.

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40.09 - 51.064 Sean Kelly

All right, guys, Dr. Steven Sanders here today. We're going to talk about men's health. Let's do it, man. Which is a majority of my audience. So this one should hit deep, right? That's right. What are you seeing these days with young males?

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52.057 - 69.289 Dr. Stephen Sanders

Dude, it's all over the place. I'll tell you, there's a couple of demographics or a couple of things we're seeing in demographics. Number one, people are increasingly concerned about wellness and health. And I love that. This newer generation, they don't want a pill for everything. They want to know a lifestyle, like what do I need to move the needle? Mm-hmm.

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69.269 - 84.604 Dr. Stephen Sanders

I'll tell you, I'm seeing a lot of low testosterone. I've got guys that are 18, 19, 20 coming in. They have low testosterone. There is really no clinical reason they should have low testosterone, but they do. So we need to talk about, you know, the things that lead to that. And I'll tell you a lot of things.

84.644 - 107.045 Dr. Stephen Sanders

The other thing we see is more ED and it's ED in like that 20 to 25 to 30 demographic, which is alarming. And most times it's not from cardiovascular issues. It's just multifactorial, meaning that it's coming from several things. So it's crazy, man. But I absolutely love men's health. And so I got into this not really by accident.

Chapter 2: What factors are contributing to the men's health crisis?

108.867 - 133.827 Dr. Stephen Sanders

You know, I'm a physician by training, specializing in men's health, entrepreneur at heart, husband, father of four. And in my late 30s, like everything on paper really should have been good. Good wife, good kids, career was, you know, really flourishing, disposable income, everything looked good on paper. But, dude, I hit a wall, like literally in my late 30s to the point I couldn't function.

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134.027 - 150.055 Dr. Stephen Sanders

Like brain fog, low libido, fatigue. I was operating at maybe 30 or 40 percent of what I was capable of. And I began to believe that my best days were behind of me and not ahead of me. And, dude, that scared the hell out of me, honestly.

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150.075 - 152.179 Sean Kelly

Yeah, a lot of people say you're getting older.

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152.159 - 172.37 Dr. Stephen Sanders

It scared the hell out of me because I've taken care of enough chronically ill patients. And I'm like, if this is what I have to look forward to, I don't want this. And fast forward, I was biking in Colorado. Someone took a photo of me and I looked at that photo and I'm like, I don't recognize this person. just lifeless face, 60 plus pounds overweight.

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173.071 - 193.81 Dr. Stephen Sanders

And when I saw that photo, like it literally changed my life. Wow. And so over the next 18 months, I went on this radical health transformation and transformed my health and my life. And dude, I've got my life back now. And I love it. I literally feel like I'm 18. I wake up every morning, like ready to attack the day to get it done. But I'm a physician.

194.091 - 207.95 Dr. Stephen Sanders

And so if I was struggling through that stuff, and if I was having to fight these battles, there have to be millions of men out there who are doing the same thing. And I don't want that. I want every man to believe that their best days are in front of them. And I didn't have the playbook.

Chapter 3: Why are young men experiencing low testosterone levels?

207.99 - 219.606 Dr. Stephen Sanders

Nobody gave me a playbook. Nobody gave me a handbook. I didn't know the process. And so if I could go back and tell my 20-year-old self or my 30-year-old self, hey, these are the things that are coming. This is how it's going to change. Dude, it would have been a game changer.

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219.626 - 223.311 Sean Kelly

Yeah. It is ironic that physicians and doctors, some of them don't appear healthy.

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223.992 - 225.334 Dr. Stephen Sanders

Most of them don't. It's crazy.

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225.354 - 226.857 Sean Kelly

Well, they're not taught preventative health.

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226.877 - 234.989 Dr. Stephen Sanders

Yeah, exactly. I mean, med school is not designed to teach you how to be well. It's designed to teach you how to take care of disease. We do a fantastic job.

235.489 - 241.538 Sean Kelly

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Chapter 4: What is causing the rise of erectile dysfunction in men under 30?

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296.047 - 301.214 Dr. Stephen Sanders

System is a fantastic sick care system, but it doesn't teach you how to be healthy or how to be optimal.

301.234 - 304.959 Sean Kelly

100%. Me personally, if I'm listening to a doctor, they got to look good.

305.38 - 307.843 Dr. Stephen Sanders

Correct. Would you trust a broke financial advisor?

308.004 - 315.835 Sean Kelly

No. No. It's the same thing with health. People don't think that way for some reason, I guess. Right. When they go to the ER or whatever, they don't really think that way.

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It's crazy almost.

Chapter 5: How did Dr. Sanders experience a personal health transformation?

478.905 - 495.223 Dr. Stephen Sanders

Like I would sleep four or five hours and work and different things like that. And so I really had to fix the sleep. And so now sleep is non-negotiable, seven to eight hours solid sleep. Um, and then training for me was non-existent. Like I wasn't exercising, I wasn't training. And so I made a commitment to myself.

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495.544 - 511.259 Dr. Stephen Sanders

You're going to train four times a week minimum, and it's going to be tough as hell to start with, but you're just going to show up. And it was just about showing up. And honestly, when you just show up and you do those small habits, the consistency starts firing in and that you get the compounding effect and it's a game changer. Nice.

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511.559 - 514.722 Sean Kelly

So after that journey, you started, um, kind of doing your own thing, right? Yeah.

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514.735 - 533.465 Dr. Stephen Sanders

Yeah. And so I said, hey, if I was struggling and I don't have a playbook, then there is a huge need for this. And the data tells us that men don't engage with health care. They don't like the health care system. And when they do, they get dismissed because they go in and they have this complaint. And then they're told they have normal labs and go home. And that's just normal aging.

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534.186 - 552.553 Dr. Stephen Sanders

And so I think that's why we see such underutilization everywhere. men not engaging with healthcare. And so what I set out to do was, Hey, I want to be the doctor that I needed in my late thirties. Like I want to, I want to do that. And I want to get the messaging out, not in your late thirties, but Hey, when you're 20, we need to start thinking about this.

552.593 - 560.964 Dr. Stephen Sanders

Like when you're 30, we need to start thinking about this because we know that everybody's going to age. Everybody's going to die. We know that, but how you do that really matters.

561.024 - 564.469 Sean Kelly

Yeah. Yeah. It's crazy that in our twenties, now we need to be thinking about this stuff.

564.449 - 575.686 Dr. Stephen Sanders

It is. And I thought I was invincible in my 20s. And then you get to your 30s and 40s and things start changing. You get metabolic shifts and life shifts and hormonal shifts. And it's crazy.

576.007 - 580.534 Sean Kelly

Yeah. I just turned 29. Nice. I can already tell I'm aging.

Chapter 6: Why are traditional doctors not taught preventative health?

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But you get a choice on how you do it. You know what I'm saying? You really do. And if you make the right decisions today, dude, they compound tremendously when you're 30, when you're 40, when you're 50. It's a game changer.

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593.393 - 601.844 Sean Kelly

Yeah. Yeah. I'm trying to be as preventative as I can. I'm doing MRIs. I'm doing blood work, brain scans. I'm measuring my testosterone, my vitamin D, all that stuff.

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601.964 - 616.409 Dr. Stephen Sanders

And I think that's what you have to do. Most guys... They don't have baseline labs. They don't know where they are when they feel good. So if you're 25 and you feel exceptional, get some baseline labs so you know what good labs look like when you feel good because those will change.

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616.73 - 622.08 Sean Kelly

Yeah. What do you see? You mentioned ED at the beginning. What's the issue there? Is that a testosterone thing?

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622.567 - 647.967 Dr. Stephen Sanders

Testosterone is one component. Inactivity, obesity, nutrition, and then in the younger demographic, I think it's born. I think it's not necessarily one thing, but it's sort of several things. I cannot begin to tell you the amount of messages I get weekly on TikTok from younger guys. And just saying, hey, I'm having ED. What can I do about it? I mean, this is like weekly almost. Holy crap.

647.947 - 656.899 Dr. Stephen Sanders

And so if that's one demographic and I'm one physician, it's crazy the numbers. And the thing is, like with ED, it's sort of.

657.5 - 663.529 Sean Kelly

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663.789 - 670.258 Unknown

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670.238 - 685.986 Sean Kelly

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Chapter 7: What are the three core habits that can transform male health?

789.445 - 792.18 Sean Kelly

I do. Do you have a pretty strong detox process?

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792.481 - 813.781 Dr. Stephen Sanders

You know, the problem is the data. So I'm a physician, so I look at the data. Does it make sense? Does it not? I don't know. I think there is certainly a key for that, but I think a lot of it is on the front end of saying, hey, what can I do today to move the needle? So personally, at home, we went through our kitchen and threw out all the plastic. Glass, glassware.

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And then looking at other chemicals in the home, like laundry detergents, deodorants, different things like that. Stuff that you can do on a daily basis. We all have to live life, but it's how you live it. The environment does make a big impact.

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825.796 - 827.198 Sean Kelly

Yeah. Air filters, right?

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827.218 - 845.067 Dr. Stephen Sanders

Correct. Water filter. Yeah. Correct. Absolutely. I think anything you can do to move the needle will certainly help. Yeah. It's tough to live in a vacuum, though. You know what I'm saying? So you're trying to, you're living life, but it's tough to live in a vacuum. Agreed. Yeah. Brian Johnson is. Exactly. I mean, I'm intrigued by the work he does. Yeah.

845.958 - 851.349 Dr. Stephen Sanders

But he is literally spending his life doing that, which is fine, but everybody can't do that. It just, it's not possible.

851.389 - 855.116 Sean Kelly

It wouldn't be fun. No, it wouldn't be. Sleep at the same time every single day.

855.136 - 863.954 Dr. Stephen Sanders

Yeah. Which is good for you. I mean, I'm not saying it's not, but I'm just, at the end of the day, like, it's very difficult when you're living life, when you're raising a family, when you're starting business.

863.974 - 871.163 Sean Kelly

Like, you just... It's tough, man. You got four kids. You're probably traveling a lot. Yeah. Yeah, it's probably impossible, honestly, with that lifestyle.

Chapter 8: How does loneliness impact men's health and community?

1352.568 - 1371.095 Dr. Stephen Sanders

I mean, health is your greatest asset. And so... For this younger demographic, if you can realize that and dial in, it can be an absolute game changer. Because when you get your 30s and 40s in your peak earning and you're growing businesses, that can be a game changer if you're operating at 100% versus if you're operating at a capacity of 40%. Yeah.

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1371.816 - 1377.203 Sean Kelly

I've realized how important sleep is lately because I started tracking mine with Oura Ring and eight sleep mattresses.

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1377.223 - 1380.067 Dr. Stephen Sanders

I love that. I think that's phenomenal. Those are phenomenal tools.

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1380.167 - 1385.055 Sean Kelly

Phenomenal. I notice when my HRV is low. I feel way off like the next day.

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1385.597 - 1389.765 Dr. Stephen Sanders

And do you feel like when you're fully rested, like your performance substantially improves?

1389.966 - 1395.377 Sean Kelly

Like if I'm scoring in the 90s, I know I'm chilling that day. If I get a low score, I'm going to feel it.

1395.779 - 1416.218 Dr. Stephen Sanders

And the thing with sleep is like, it's literally free. It's not, you know, everybody comes in and I want a peptide or they want this or a pill or injection. If you can get sleep right, that's a lot of the equation. Yeah. Sleep, diet and exercise. Nobody wants to hear that. It's not sexy, but it works. Normal things work to move the needle, to change the trajectory.

1416.198 - 1421.367 Sean Kelly

Yeah. A lot of the healthiest things you could do are pretty cheap or free. I think so too. Which is some people think that's controversial.

1421.428 - 1421.608 Dr. Stephen Sanders

Yeah.

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