Martin Tironi and Marcos Chilet are design educators that work together in the Design Department of the Catholic University in Chile. We talk in this interview on a network of planetary design, and on the integration of terrestrial conditions in design practice. Martin and Marcos are problematising the notion of a project as something very fix, patriarcal and human centric. They propose that we should be working in the interconnectedness within the ecological, cultural and political dimensions in which design is involved. Cameron Tonkinwise is interviewing together with Mariana in this episode. This episode is part of the lists: Educación en diseño, D&D in English, Chile y diseño e Inteligencia Artificial. The list's titles are in Spanish, but within each list you can find episodes in different languages. We talked about the exhibition: Desvastaciones generativas More readings on the exhibition: Desvastaciones generativas, IA y el diseño del fin del mundoThey recommended to read: The calculation of meaning: on the misunderstanding of new artificial intelligence as culture by Mercedes BunzResonancias tectónicasMartin and Marcos in Spanish were interviewed for this podcasts, to talk about other research and design initiatives. Marcos is in a panel talking about the design of the chilean constitution in episode 184 and in episode 249 talked about his work in the public sector and the contribution of design to politics. Martín was interviewed in episode 225 and in this interview we talked about prototypes to understand new forms of relations with chimpanzees.

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