Chapter 1: What inspired Shane Smith to become a pastry chef?
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Welcome to another episode of Dishing It Out with me, Gary O'Hanlon. And me, Gareth Mullins. And coming up on today's show, a good, good friend of mine, Shane Smith, pastry chef extraordinaire. Got a new book coming out, Loaf Tin Bakes. Should be on shelves.
Righto, Dan.
Absolutely brilliant, yeah, just a two pound loaf tin. What a great, what a great show. Because obviously there's so many cookbooks, in particular sweet pastry bakery books, and everybody's got a two pound loaf tin.
line around nearly everybody yeah yeah fantastic and I'm sure you know the recipes will be bulletproof so yeah no he's a great guy I do an awful lot of food festivals over the years with Shane I've known him a long time and looking forward to catching up with him haven't seen him haven't seen him in a while we will have our culinary conundrums as always in our Nespresso professional recipe of the week don't go anywhere
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Chapter 2: How does pastry differ from savory cooking?
Joining us now on Dishing It Out is a good pal of mine, Shane Smith. Welcome to Dishing It Out. Pastry chef, baker extraordinaire. Master baker. Master baker. I was going to say, it is fully fledged pastry chef, but obviously it's bacon and all the likes of it. I suppose the pastry chef tag really is whenever you're in the professional environment, isn't it?
Yeah, I suppose people think as well as a pastry chef that you haven't kind of trained either as in like on the savoury side of things. So I suppose back when I started college back in the day when things were in black and white, it was savoury food first. And then after, I'd say, about six, eight weeks in college, I realised, yeah.
Is that boys like us looking at you coming out of your pastry corner going, get out of the kitchen?
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The abuse. Where did you train? Killiebegs.
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Chapter 3: What are the challenges of gluten-free and vegan baking?
Oh, okay. Yeah, Killiebegs. Did you go on and do advanced pastry then? Yeah, I went on to GMIT and done a diploma in advanced and specialised pastry. Very cool. You're a cabin man, right? Yes.
Whereabouts? Just outside Virginia. Yeah, and what year did you go to Killiebegs? 2000. Oh, I was going to say, yeah, because it couldn't have been a million miles after my time there. It was five or six years.
They just built the new kitchens on, so we were the first year, I think, to kind of get in there and wreck the joint a little bit. Eileen Boyle got her hands on you then, I'd say.
Chapter 4: What unique recipes can be found in Shane's new cookbook?
Yeah, she's class. A good friend, yeah, yeah. She's brilliant.
And where was the first, where did you work then after college? Are we working while you're in college or...?
Both. So I started off when I was probably 16 in the Kilmore Hotel in Cavan. So that was kind of went to an open day with mum. I think she was like, oh, Jesus, no, are you going to go into the kitchens kind of thing? Because I was always tricking around cooking at home. So I went into an open day and there's this lady sitting on top of the room working for CERT at the time.
And she sold it as this lovely, which it is, don't get wrong. I'm still 27 years later. I'm still in it. But she painted this beautiful picture.
Chapter 5: How has the approach to home baking changed over the years?
And then we went into the kitchen afterwards and the head chef at the time, he just cooked steak with onions and mushrooms. It blew my mind.
I was like what is this it was easy to drink yeah easy to drink because the pan was smoking hot it wasn't stewing in the pan yeah yeah yeah and that was it I went out straight away to reception first steak you ever had that had a crust mum will not listen to this hopefully she'll kill me but yeah went out and got a form straight away and started doing weekend work and I was in doing salads and mum said the larder first
straight off the bat and mum was like you know you're going to be washing dishes all day so I myself mentally prepared for that but they threw me straight over to the salad so the carvery that was off the bat so just kind of went in there and of course I'll never forget I was doing a beautiful bowl of tomatoes and I was placing them all nice and neatly and whatever and one of the girls was like there's 150 people already queuing up outside yeah come on threw the whole lot in
so I think they knew from get go this lad now he's I'd be in the Kilmore a good bit actually because it's only 15-20 minutes from here I live very near it there yeah you were there for a long time were you probably I'd say four years on off so that's what paid for through college as well yeah for a search at the time used to get £50 a week you remember the grant money coming in oh stop the big queue the big queue at the ATM machine waiting for midnight it was like
oh away you go then so yeah so you get 50 quid and that used to cover the rent and your bus money up and down it did and a couple of nights out as well but the Kilmore then was brilliant because that was the kind of extra money so we were the lads that would go to the carvery midweek when everyone else was eating oh yeah yeah yeah
And you knew the chef, so your lecture was loose.
Yeah, it was. And then did you move into pastry there? So after that, then I done my two years. I worked in a lovely little place in Anagri in Donegal, Danny Minnie's. And it was kind of a fine dining kind of thing. So there was a really good pastry chef there. So I kind of at that stage was like, OK, this is for me. This is intricate.
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Chapter 6: What advice does Shane have for aspiring bakers?
There's a lot of detail up there. Yeah, Danny Minnies for... They have a great reputation. Unbelievable. Brian was unreal, yeah. And Terry, God rest her, she was the most glamorous person I ever met. She owned the restaurant, so she would always be the hostess. It was a different side because I kind of came from hotels and then to kind of go in and see this, it was just hospitality at its finest.
But as in, You walked in the door and you were just made to feel like a rock star from the minute you come in to the minute you left. It was unbelievable. So kind of from that on, I realized, you know, pastry is kind of where I want to be. So then I finished up college my two years and I went to Not Granny House in Westport. So that was the first kind of five star.
No, it was Philip Brazel was there at the time. So that was a baptism of fire.
Chapter 7: How can home cooks improve food presentation?
Like in the best and worst possible ways. Such a talent.
yeah but it was hardcore i think it was very it was probably the first kitchen i worked in that was very kind of army style it was regimented like you had to do things a certain way and you know first job granny's got a great reputation i mean it's always been good and obviously she has brought it on to a whole other level as well yeah it's uh it's ran right always has been it's the same family has had it now yeah adrian has had it for years and how long did you spend there
probably I would say two and a half years and I think I was at the point where I was like okay you've got to keep moving kind of keep moving on to different restaurants and was that like give us an idea of what was going on there was that like a lot of plated desserts was he making the breads no it was savoury straight away so like there wasn't a chance they didn't straight into the huckage straight into yeah so it was kind of you were a commis chef coming in from Killebeg so you were straight away like day one on placement crisp white uniform one of the lucky ones though sent a westward on a place but they wouldn't send me there they told me I was too mad I wasn't allowed to go
I went down to visit a couple of pals, actually. And when I was down visiting them, they were like, geez, you should think about doing your final placement here. So that's where I kind of looked into it. But yeah, first day I went in, it was cleaning canopies and it was cleaning cookers. And it wasn't... You know, it was very... I wouldn't dress it up as... It was a tough gig.
Like, it was very... Things have changed a lot I would see in the last couple of years, probably five, ten years or so. But this was an old school kitchen. It was very, as I said, regimented. So it wasn't easy by any means. But it was salad, it was veg prep, all that kind of stuff.
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Chapter 8: What culinary conundrums do listeners have this week?
It wasn't glamorous, but just where the cold section would be, the pastry section was just over the far end of the kitchen. I was always kind of daydreaming when they were like...
The light at the end of the tunnel.
It was like a raj in the desert or the water. I was over there. They were that lad daydreaming again. But there was an amazing head baker over there and pastry chef. So eventually, after a long time, it was like asking them, please, can I move over? Eventually, they moved me over for kind of what I used to do after service. You'd finish at maybe half ten, eleven at night.
Wow, you'd jump in the pastry. I'd go over and help them clean down and do a lot. Oh, yeah, yeah. They might remember it differently. Here he comes again. But yeah, the interest was there. And I was like, that's where I want to be. That's where I want to go. So it was a lot of... And it was... I won't dress up. It was frowned upon at times for fellas to do pastry. You know, at the time.
Yeah, it was always... The girls were over in the pastry kitchen. And the bakers, Ray was there at the time. He was brilliant. So the bakers were more fellas. But definitely it was a team of women that was over there. Is that Ray who's still here?
Yeah.
Yeah, he's my pastry chef when we opened. Yeah, he's incredible. He's a talent.
I still think he's the best baker I've ever worked with.
Yeah, I remember. His breads are mind-blowing. Unbelievable. We used to do everything. For the weddings, you'd have all your fresh bread rolls.
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