STOP BLAMING THE REF | Chris Jones On Why All Blacks MUST Adapt To Northern Referees
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What were the key factors behind South Africa's 3‑1 series win over the All Blacks?
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HBO Max, all killer no fellow, bringing us all the coverage of rugby's greatest rivalry. And right throughout this series, and right throughout the year, and right throughout everything to do with my sports broadcasting, I've had my great mate Chris Jones riding alongside me. Times Times Aline, rugbypass.com, man who's got so much experience over three decades, been on about seven or eight lions tours and covered seven or eight, if not even every single rugby world cup, I think it is. My uh my My apologies, Chris. I think you've done yeah every single rugby world cup. And of course, this tour as well, where you've been such an interested spectator, as I know. Have the whole of the UK rugby audience, France as well, looking at our two teams bashing the living bejesus out of each other.
And in the end of it, a South African side, which is just wholly dominant. And we have to put our hands up in this part of the world. It's not an easy thing to say. Uh, but yeah, it's a comprehensive 3-1 series victory to them. And if any of us thought that, well, Baltimore didn't count, that they would be more than happy winning a series in South Africa. Africa, well they produced their best effort on the weekend and forty three twenty eight, again like the last couple of tests before it I thought a flattering score line for us.
Yeah, and the great thing about You if you learn to be consistent. The problem is you've learned to be consistent in uh inability to catch a high ball. An inability to contest the the the rock. uh without giving away penalties and you've uh failed also to find an answer to them all uh although you did better in the scrum. So we've talked about this about getting your your your foundations right. This coming yeah, couple of games with the Aussies. an opportunity to do that. Uh, although they're gonna get a quick glimpse into the future when they play the Springbox, aren't they?
Yeah, a couple of weeks away for that. I do wonder what kind of springbox side is going to be selected for that, whether Rossi, you know, uses his squad like he can and and picks a totally different team. Look, I want to get into the referee to start with. And, you know, there's so much talk down here about interpretations and whether, you know, the referees are getting it right, whether the TMO interfered too much on the weekend, whether the way that we've decided to ref super rugby is an actual fact detrimental to us, whether we've got this arrogance and we think that, you know, we're trying to play a a brand of rugby that the rest of the world doesn't really care about and that we should just actually uh pull the handbrake up and jump back on the bus and actually get with the fact that the game is going to be reft in a different way when we play international level.
What have you been seeing through these three test matches that we've lost, especially?
Been seeing New Zealanders complaining about interpretation from s northern hemisphere referees. This is not new. This is something you talk about all the time.
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Chapters
8 chapters
1
What were the key factors behind South Africa's 3‑1 series win over the All Blacks?
0:00–4:49
2
How did the All Blacks’ handling of referee interpretations affect the series?
4:49–8:47
3
Why do Chris Jones and Martin Devlin argue that the All Blacks must adapt to Northern‑hemisphere refereeing?
8:47–13:08
4
What specific tactical mistakes did the All Blacks make against South Africa’s physical dominance?
13:08–17:31
5
How can New Zealand improve its set‑piece and breakdown work to match South Africa’s standards?
17:31–22:13
6
What role does technology (TMO, VAR, communications) play in the controversy around the matches?
22:13–26:31
7
How will upcoming tests against Australia and Europe shape the All Blacks’ preparation?
26:31–30:59
8
What long‑term changes do the hosts suggest for New Zealand rugby to stay competitive?
30:59–35:29
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