Episode 150: Shruti Rajagopalan discusses talent in India
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What does “keeping an eye on India” mean for global policymakers?
Hello, and welcome to Elucidations, an unexpected philosophy podcast. I'm Matt Teichman, and with me today is Shruti Rajakopalan. Senior Research Fellow at the Mercatus Center, Fellow at the Classical Liberal Institute at New York University School of Law, host of the Ideas of India podcast, which I recommend you check out, and author of the Get Down and Shruti Substack, which I also highly recommend you check out. And she is here to discuss talent in India. Shruti Rajagopalan, welcome.
Thank you so much, Matt. It's such a pleasure to be here. I always love chatting with you, and this time we're recording it.
You know, before we actually talk about India, I have to ask. So your sub stack is called Get Down and Shruti. Is that to suggest that you are a form of dance which people can get down and do?
No, it's actually a song by a band called Shakti. This is a jazz fusion band. Yeah, McLaughlin's band. Exactly, John McLaughlin's band. The original crew was L. Shankar on the violin, Zakir Hussain, who is a tabla player and one of India's foremost classical percussionists, and Vikku Vinayakram, who played the ghatam, which is, you know, this... clay pot percussion instrument. And since then, you know, some members have come and gone. And this year they're celebrating their 50th year anniversary. And one of their tracks that I love is called Get Down and Shruti. Oh, that is amazing. And so I thought that's a nice name for the sub stack. And also, I think kind of captures me a little bit because I live in two worlds.
Right. I live in the United States. I lead the Indian economy program at the Mercatus Center. I do ED India. I also grew up in India, but I've spent the last 15 years here. So, you know, when it comes to sort of like fusion, I guess it somehow just clicked with me and Shakti felt right.
Amazing. OK, so talent in India. Your inaugural Substack post was about kind of recent developments in India, in the economy, in culture and technology. And the main argument that I got from that piece was we should really be keeping our eye on India. So I thought maybe I'd open by asking, what does it mean to keep an eye on a country?
So, you know, that obviously depends on who we're talking about.
Right.
Right. Like
me versus an actual policymaker or something.
Exactly. So if we were talking about the Biden administration, you know, I would talk a little bit more about all the points where India and U.S. can potentially ally. both, you know, in terms of being very large, liberal constitutional democracies, very syncretic in their culture, and, you know, secular in terms of religion, lots of different religions, sort of like melting pot field that both India and the US have, and how they can sort of confront the challenges that are now coming up, you know, with Cold War 2.0, and what's happening with China and Taiwan or Russia and Ukraine, you know, how we need to think about Africa in the future, because India is pretty much the front runner when it comes to the global south.
And a lot of the African countries are where India was maybe 30 years ago, 50 years ago. So that's the way I would pitch it to someone who is in those sorts of policy or geopolitics circles. Now, if you have nothing to do with India, but you just happen to live in the United States or, you know, you're a young person expecting to live another 30, 40 years or you have children who you expect will live another 100 years.
You love dosas. You'd love to learn more.
Exactly. So one is I think Indians are going to be a very large proportion of the global demographic. You know, that's an important point to highlight. But the other part is they're also a very large group of the incoming talent to the United States, especially universities, you know, STEM areas, AI research, Silicon Valley. So there's a very good chance that, you know, when your kids go to college, you said your daughter's two years old. There's a good chance she, you know, meets an Indian and falls in love with them. And, you know, the in-laws that you're with at your reception at her reception dinner is going to be Indian in-laws.
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Chapters
8 chapters
1
What does “keeping an eye on India” mean for global policymakers?
0:09–5:47
2
How does India’s young, tech‑savvy population compare to China’s demographic profile?
5:47–12:47
3
Why did the 1991 economic liberalization unlock India’s tech boom?
12:47–17:55
4
How did cheap mobile data and smartphone adoption reshape Indian society?
17:55–23:12
5
What role does India’s talent pool play in U.S. STEM and Silicon Valley hiring?
23:12–28:26
6
How can India transition from a services‑driven economy to a global manufacturing hub?
28:26–33:11
7
What are the cultural and linguistic challenges of large‑scale immigration to aging societies?
33:11–39:21
8
What future vision does Shruti describe for India‑world collaboration on talent and innovation?
39:21–46:25
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