Episode 45: Anubav Vasudevan discusses probability and determinism
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Hello and welcome to Elucidations, a philosophy podcast recorded at the University of Chicago. I'm Matt Teichman. And I'm Alex Longline. With us today is Anubhav Vasudevan, Assistant Professor of Philosophy at the University of Chicago. And he is here to talk to us about probability and determinism. Anubhav Vasudevan, welcome. Thank you. A lot of ink has been spilled in philosophy over how to interpret probability. You know, when I say, there is a 50% chance that it will rain tomorrow, what does that statement mean? What's the philosophical problem about how to interpret probability? Why is that difficult to explain?
So I think in trying to understand the problems that arise in interpreting probability, it's best to think about the historical origins of the varying conceptions of probability. What sorts of conceptual difficulties prompted these different conceptions of probability? And in that regard, I think it's best to start with a discussion of determinism, because ultimately, I think certain conceptions of probability, in particular the subjective or epistemic conception of probability, historically speaking from a historical point of view, one of the reasons, one of the principal reasons for interpreting probability in subjective or epistemic terms, and I'll say a bit more about what that means later on,
One of the principal historical reasons for adopting an epistemic conception of probability was to try to reconcile the idea that we may live in a deterministic world with the manifest fact that certain events occur with a less than maximal degree of probability. I think the best place to start maybe is with an account of what determinism is, and then to see how the tension might arise between that conception of determinism and certain interpretations of probability. So determinism is the view that every fact about the world can, in principle, be deduced from certain facts about the prior state of the world in combination with an account of the dynamical laws that govern its evolution. So, for example, if we consider particles of gas in a box, we assume that these particles are governed by, say, the classical Newtonian laws of motion, then, in principle at least, from those laws of motion,
one can deduce from an account of the initial positions and velocities of the particles in the box what their positions and velocities will be at any later point in time. So in this sense, this box of gas comprises, if you like, a locally deterministic system. So there's another characterization of determinism, and I think it's this characterization of determinism that I'd like to focus on in our discussion this afternoon, according to which determinism is the view which rules out the possibility of chance happenings. There's events which happen by chance. Now, if a chance happening is understood simply to mean an event which has no determinative causal antecedent, then these two conceptions of determinism more or less come together.
Where this characterization of determinism gets its substance is when we interpret the notion of chance. We give to it an independent interpretation in terms of the associated notion of probability. So for instance, we take a chance happening to be an event which occurs with something less than maximal probability. When we interpret chance happenings this way, and we take determinism to be the view which rejects the occurrence of such happenings, then what we end up with is an account of determinism according to which no event occurs with less than maximal probability. Any event which occurs, occurs with probability one. So if this is our conception of determinism, then it seems as if there's a kind of problem that we have to deal with because, at least intuitively, there are many, many events which occur with less than maximal probability.
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Chapters
5 chapters
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What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
0:00–6:31
2
What is the central problem with interpreting probability in philosophy?
6:31–14:54
3
How does Anubhav define determinism and its link to chance?
14:54–23:16
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Why do philosophers adopt an epistemic (subjective) view of probability?
23:16–26:32
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How does the coin‑toss example illustrate the tension between determinism and chance?
26:32–31:57
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