Episode 97: Meghan Sullivan discusses time biases
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Hello and welcome to Elucidations, a philosophy podcast ordinarily recorded at the University of Chicago, but which today is being brought to you from South Bend, Indiana. I'm Matt Teichman, and with me today is Megan Sullivan. The Reverend John O'Brien Associate Professor of Philosophy at the University of Notre Dame And she is here to discuss time biases. Megan Sulvan, welcome.
Thanks, Matt.
So time biases, that's a new term. I don't think I've heard that before. What exactly is time bias and w what would be some examples of it?
So you have a time bias if you have a preference about when good or bad experiences happen. So probably the most common example and the one that philosophers, psychologists, and economists are really obsessed with, is near bias. So a person is near-biased if she prefers uh some experiences over others because they happen sooner rather than further away. So you might think near bias is a good explanation for why people don't save money for retirement. Suppose you get a thousand dollar tax return from the IRS and you have a choice between blowing it on a cool vacation in Mexico or putting it in a retirement account where you're not going to be able to withdraw the money for 30 years. You might reason as follows, if we put the money away, it's going to grow in value.
No, it might double every year. seven years if the stock market keeps going the way it's going. So it'd be worth a lot more money. when you withdraw it, way more than you'd be willing to spend on a Mexican vacation now. But that's so far away Temporally. that you just don't care that much about it and you'd prefer to have the really good experience now. That's a really common kind of near bias that we're all susceptible of. Another more interesting kind of time bias, and and this is um one that I focused on a bit in my work, is we tend to care a lot less about both good and bad experiences if they've already happened. So this is future bias, or sometimes it's called past discounting. And a really good example of this is imagine you had to have a pretty painful surgery.
Now you've already recovered from it. You might think you just don't care at all about that surgery anymore, especially if you don't have bad present memories of it. Whereas if you were gonna have a surgery a month or a year from now you would have really strong preferences about it. You'd prefer that it be shorter or less painful if that were possible. It'd be the kind of thing that emotionally you'd be really attending to. Future bias is our tendency to prefer any good experience in the future over any good experience in the past. or any bad experience in the past to any potential bad experience in the future, if that makes sense. Another two other kinds of time bias that might be of interest to listeners is some people have strong preferences about when events happen in their lives.
So David Vellman raises this interesting case of suppose you have a choice from like the original position of two potential lives, both of them are guaranteed the same total amount of happiness in those lives.
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Chapters
7 chapters
1
What is the introductory announcement and sponsor information for this episode?
0:00–9:35
2
How does Meghan Sullivan define a “time bias” and give everyday examples?
9:35–17:09
3
Why do people exhibit near‑bias and how does it affect retirement savings?
17:09–22:04
4
What is “future bias” (or past discounting) and how does it influence decisions about surgeries and other events?
22:04–26:56
5
How do preferences about the sequence of life events (ending on a high note) illustrate a different kind of time bias?
26:56–32:43
6
Which principle should guide Frank’s choice between finishing his book and enjoying retirement, and what does this reveal about temporal neutrality?
32:43–42:10
7
What experimental evidence (e.g., pain‑settlement and data‑entry studies) shows that people discount past experiences?
42:10–55:39
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