Caroline Foran on Being in a Relationship With Anxiety
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Gorgeous. Welcome back to All of the Above with me, Emma Keogh. So this week I have a really special guest on, which I had on about three and a half years. She is a bestselling author and also a podcaster. She is the one and only Caroline Foran. So nice to be here.
This is a vibe. This is a whole setup that I wasn't expecting. And it's so, so nice to be here.
Thank you. And the reason I have Caroline Caroline on today is because she is like an anxiety expert but not only an expert you have been through the trenches yourself and that's why you got to a point where you have your podcasts and you are an author as well because you wanted to share your experiences with people as well
Yeah, I often feel like I need to preface anything I do by saying I'm not an official expert because I don't have that little piece of paper. It's a personal expertise point of view. It's a lived experience with a huge amount of research and like conversations with experts that I'm so intimate with anxiety and knowing how it functions in the body that I feel like you have to experience it to a great extent to be able to know, to understand this and then help other people feel like feel their way through it.
Yeah, I like that.
I'm in an intimate relationship with anxiety.
Yeah, maybe that sounded a bit weird, did it? No, because when you think about it as well, there is so many like experts out there and then people who have went to college for, you know, neuroscience, for psychology, for like, you know, bodies as well. But you do really have to live through an experience in order to talk about it. Like I think as well, like you can, you can't study things, but you have to experience it in order to really feel it and give it out to the world.
Yeah, because it's one thing to, you know, read about something and another thing to feel it and it to be personal and note ahead to respond. And it doesn't always hold up like what you read in a textbook doesn't always apply to human experience. So but I do also think that most people who wind up studying and becoming experts, you know, whether they're psychologists or psychiatrists, they often come from the experience of having experience. gone through something and really have that curiosity and wanting to know more about that or to support themselves or someone else so like I am I am going to hopefully if all goes well I'm going to start a master's this summer in um the psychology and neuroscience of mental health oh my god amazing I'd love to do something like that yeah I just feel I just really want to
delve into that a bit more I feel like I probably know a lot already but I want to formalize it and then when I do podcasts I don't have to say sorry I'm not an expert I know what you mean to actually just have that little you know it legitimizes what you do um but oftentimes it's just a societal prerequisite I think to be taken seriously
Yeah, like you do need, even though you've lived the experience as well, it's you do need some form of, you know, why is my brain just gone there now? Diploma, certificate, you know, education to back that as well.
Yeah, I mean, then you've kind of coming at it from both angles and that's really invaluable to people who are going through it and people are going through it right now.
Yeah, and talking about going through it, I actually took down some stats last night when I was writing out all my questions.
What is anxiety and how can we understand it better?
And it's actually crazy, right? So I have here pre-COVID, so 2016 to 2019, this is in Ireland now, around 5% of adults were diagnosed, you know, with anxiety disorders. Okay. So I was like, oh, that seems quite kind of low. Do you know what I mean? But for what we know of. Then around after COVID, 2024 to 2025, because I feel it's only hitting now the last year or so. Nearly 18%.
Wow.
That's over tripled. That's tripled.
Yeah. I'm not surprised and it was really interesting for me. Obviously it was a terrible time and people were really negatively affected by it, but to see something affect us on a global, like that's never happened before, like that we were all, all of our nervous systems were compromised by this legitimate threat
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Chapters
8 chapters
1
What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
0:05–3:12
2
What is anxiety and how can we understand it better?
3:12–4:59
3
Why is anxiety not something to 'fix'?
4:59–9:22
4
How can mindfulness practices help manage anxiety?
9:22–15:43
5
What tools can be included in your 'anxiety toolbox'?
15:43–17:56
6
How has COVID impacted anxiety levels in society?
17:56–28:51
7
What personal experiences shaped the guest's understanding of anxiety?
28:51–39:27
8
How can self-compassion aid in managing anxiety?
39:27–1:01:52