Humanoid Robots, Chinese EVs & AI: What Investors Still Get Wrong About Disruption
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How does AI impact the cost of hiring humans?
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What significant changes have occurred in the AI landscape since the last episode?
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What is the third inflection point in AI development?
Equitymates operates under Australian Financial Services License 540697. Now it's sometimes cheaper to just hire a human than to use AI.
We've been out of NVIDIA four times.
Are we still early in the AI investment cycle?
Yeah, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah.
When a low-cost manufacturing company has the best technology, it's a problem.
What warning signs indicate an AI bubble?
Welcome to Equitymates, a show where we explore what's possible in the world of investing. My name's Bryce. And I'm Ren, and today we are talking all things disruption.
Why do most investors get disruption wrong?
Joining us in the studio today, we have Anshu Sharma, co-founder at Loftus Peak and portfolio manager of the Loftus Peak Global Disruption Fund. And as you said, Ren, we are covering all things disruption. He's fresh off the back of a return trip from China where he was at the Beijing Auto Show and the largest consumer electronics show in the world, CSS, with plenty of insight in what is going on with AI, robotics, you name it.
Yeah, it's a fascinating conversation. We first had Anshu on the show. Late last year, as he spoke about then, Loftus Peak was specifically set up to invest in disruption. They identified a number of key areas where the world was changing in meaningful ways and have invested on the back of that. It's been good for them so far. They've done over 20% a year for over a decade, so you can't argue with that. But the world is moving quicker. And as you said, Bryce, we really wanted to understand what's happening on the ground and where that big next wave of change is happening. Of course, we speak about AI. Can't not speak about that when you're talking about disruption. But this conversation goes well beyond AI to understand how we, any investor, can think about a repeatable framework and a process to find disruption and invest in it.
What insights were gained from the Beijing Auto Show?
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How do sodium-ion batteries change the EV landscape?
All right. With that said, let's get to our conversation with Anshu Sharma.
Andrew, welcome back to Equity Mates. Bryce, Rowan, nice to be back on the show. Well, since you were last on, which was the 8th of December, 2025, what's one thing that you've changed your mind on?
We discussed AI a bit. On AI, we have gone more positive. Possibly market has changed its mind on AI, not us. So we are very well positioned for what has happened in the last two months. One that's done well. And in AI, you also had the third inflection point in the AI usage. So those are the two positives in AI. In terms of electrification, which we discussed last time, there we had had major developments. We have had sodium ion battery, which might go into commercial production next year, first half next year, which is a major change, we think, on the cost side of batteries. And will lead to higher adoption. Along with that, ESS, which is energy storage solutions, that's a market which is going to have a super normal growth over the next five years.
So those have been the changes in electrification. We also discussed life sciences last time. On life sciences, Lilly has come out with a drug, the oral drug. Very early days, you're waiting for that drug to get insurance approval, be on the insurance list, and We'll see what happens towards the end of the year. So far, it's a good result, what we are seeing. On the negative or slight bit, we have rejigged a very small part of the portfolio in software, because I think a lot of people are talking about structural issues with software. Within software, we have gone more into Datadog and into IoT, which is more of the companies which will benefit from what is happening in AI. Whereas IoT or a Samsara is a company which is agnostic to what AI does to the world.
It's a physical asset company. So those are the four things that changed. Not just one thing. It's just full on. Things are changing so quick these days.
Well, I think that gives us a good framing for some of the topics we want to cover in the episode.
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Chapters
8 chapters
1
How does AI impact the cost of hiring humans?
0:00–0:04
2
What significant changes have occurred in the AI landscape since the last episode?
0:04–0:10
3
What is the third inflection point in AI development?
0:10–0:21
4
Are we still early in the AI investment cycle?
0:21–0:30
5
What warning signs indicate an AI bubble?
0:30–0:39
6
Why do most investors get disruption wrong?
0:39–1:54
7
What insights were gained from the Beijing Auto Show?
1:54–2:01
8
How do sodium-ion batteries change the EV landscape?
2:01–45:53
Speakers
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