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Arsenal's Aerial Attack

01 Mar 2026

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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?

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35.218 - 55.047 Alexis Nunez

Hello everyone and welcome to the latest edition of ESPN FC. I'm Alexis Younes alongside Stevie Nicholl and Shaka Hislop. You know we have to kick things off in the Premier League because there was a London derby today as Arsenal hosted Chelsea at the Emirates and the Gunners beat Chelsea to restore their five-point lead at the top of the Premier League table.

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55.027 - 79.262 Alexis Nunez

William Saliba opened the scoring for the home side in the 21st minute and then Chelsea found a way back through an own goal from Nkapieh and then Jurian Timber put Arsenal back in the lead in the 66th minute but then Chelsea went down to 10 men after an unnecessary second yellow for Pedro Neto. In the end, Arsenal managed to hang on and win this one and get all three points.

79.985 - 101.676 Alexis Nunez

Let's welcome in the rest of our squad, shall we? Julian Lorenz is joining us as well as Frank Leboeuf. Oh, the little French connection. Let me start with Jules in this one. Jules, because we know how close you are to the Arsenal side. I mean, this seems or felt like a bit of a statement win from Arsenal. It wasn't the prettiest game of football on the pitch. Three goals from shock set pieces.

101.716 - 104.44 Alexis Nunez

But how do you feel Mikel Arteta will be feeling after this?

106.276 - 122.074 Julian Lorenz

I'm not sure if statement is the right word. I think it's one of those games, for now, between now and the end of the season, for them, like for City, and to be fair, also the teams that are fighting for the Champions League places, for example, or the relegation, it's all about winning. It doesn't really matter if you play well. It doesn't really matter if you...

122.054 - 137.869 Julian Lorenz

If you perform at your best or not, if your star players are clicking, it's all about winning. And as we saw with City yesterday against Leeds United, for example, where they were outplayed in that first half, you just find a way. And today, Chelsea were probably the better team, more than Arsenal.

Chapter 2: What were the key moments in Arsenal's win over Chelsea?

193.158 - 219.111 Stevie Nicol

But we have to stop telling him that he can be the first offensive player. He's bad with his feet and he scares everybody. And I was jumping every time the Chelsea player was giving him the ball because he's a danger. And Liam Rossignol should tell him to stop being, you know, easygoing. Kind of, yeah. I know what I'm doing. No, you don't know what you're doing.

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219.271 - 244.847 Stevie Nicol

You're putting everybody in danger and it's scary what you're doing. So I was very upset with that. And you can see the difference with Raya and him. And that's maybe the difference that you can see between Arsenal and Chelsea. But it's true, otherwise, even 10 against 11, Chelsea were having more chances to score and were... For me, better organised offensively than Arsenal.

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245.689 - 269.005 Stevie Nicol

You cannot deny that it's a masterpiece that the French coach, the French coach on set pieces is able to do with Arsenal players and they really stick to it. But they have to do something. Chelsea, we talked about that and Craig Burley has alluded to it many, many times where, you know, put Cole Palmer, João Pedro and Neto, leave them at front and we'll see what Arsenal is going to do.

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268.985 - 288.394 Stevie Nicol

Because you will have less people in the 18-yard box, maybe you change to counter-attack and the Arsenal will wonder what they have to do. So maybe you have to try something. The more people you put in the middle of it, the more messy it gets. So I was a little bit frustrated.

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288.374 - 310.281 Stevie Nicol

I want to say that on Rice, on the first corner, when Rice touched the ball with his handball, there are a combo of fouls. First, he grabs the guy, so it's already a foul. Then after, there is a handball. Well, good for Chelsea, this goal on the following corner. But really, I think there was a foul, so there should have been a penalty for me.

310.261 - 324.177 Alexis Nunez

Well, I know that's definitely one point that, Shaka, I know you want to talk about, but just to pick up on Frank's point about Robert Sanchez, because, of course, we were on La Liga duty watching the Grand Derby, but you could not take your eyes away from those opening moments, seeing what Robert Sanchez was doing.

324.497 - 338.014 Shaka Hislop

I'll be honest, I'm not sure anybody could take their eyes off Robert Sanchez. And to Frank's point, I totally agree. I thought Robert Sanchez was taking unnecessary risks. He's not great with the ball at his feet, but Chelsea... seemed intent on passing the ball out to the back.

338.375 - 352.063 Shaka Hislop

But what Robert Sanchez was doing was kind of leading into, well, Chelsea's bigger picture in terms of their attempts to pass the ball out to the back. Time and time again, I thought they invited the pressure from Arsenal. Chelsea were playing these little short,

352.043 - 375.975 Shaka Hislop

two and three yard balls and inviting depression and whenever it turned over if it turned over uh also would just find themselves in in in great in great position not often enough were they able to pass it pass their way out of that pressure so i i had an issue with not just robert sanchez but throughout chelsea's chelsea's approach i i i felt that um especially at the emirates

Chapter 3: How did Manchester United come back against Crystal Palace?

789.235 - 794.366 Stevie Nicol

So good for them. But the others, they have to work on that. It's possible.

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Chapter 4: How did the panel analyze Chelsea's performance against Arsenal?

794.587 - 819.751 Stevie Nicol

I mean, you know that most of the time, Arsenal, whether it's going to be Saka or Declan Rice, they're going to try to aim Gabriel. But do something against Gabriel. Try to do something against Gabriel, even if it's very hard because he's very talented in that matter. But you have to try to do something. But again, it's part of the game and good for Arsenal.

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820.232 - 835.93 Stevie Nicol

And Arsenal, it's like they always need a French guy before they have a French team. In my time. No, they need a French guy. They need Julien Laurence as a French journalist and a French fan. And they need Saliba to score goals. So they need French people.

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836.11 - 857.773 Shaka Hislop

That's what it is. To that point, Frank is absolutely right. And Arsenal fans wouldn't care less if they won the title, how those goals came or how many goals came from set pieces or whatever the record is. And not should they? nor should they care about what I'm about to say. While you could say, yes, it's a part of the game, it's an integral part of the game,

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858.749 - 878.101 Shaka Hislop

I can't remember anything else Arsenal did. While it's a part of the game, I cannot remember one attacking play that made me sit up and say, yeah, that's the best team in English football or that's the best team in European football. Outside of these set pieces, there is nothing memorable about Arsenal. Now, again, I say that.

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878.622 - 901.81 Shaka Hislop

Arsenal fans are well within their rights and nor should they care that that's the case. But as a neutral... and I'm talking about the best team in English football, I cannot remember anything. Other than Martinelli's taking on Neto, probably because of the card and the red card, I cannot think of anything that Arsenal did.

901.83 - 926.694 Frank Leboeuf

That would really be the biggest concern for Arteta. They play City, but the other eight games are against teams outside the top six, which basically means probably... those teams are going to be sitting in a tight defensive unit. And whilst you've got Martinelli with that one run, you know, Trossard's not doing anything on that left-hand side. Saka has pretty much disappeared recently.

927.435 - 945.936 Frank Leboeuf

And Jokka Reds, a couple of goals the other night, but you can't trust them. So how are you going to break down these sides with eight games to go? And then you look at City. You go, well, Jerky, Foden. Semenu's flying, Haaland gets fit. You know, you're starting to think, well, who's your money going to be on?

945.976 - 960.796 Frank Leboeuf

You've got an Arsenal side going forward who look as though they can't break anybody down, and you've got City that have got so many options, they look as though they can break people down. So if you're Arteta, you've got the win, but you must be a little worried.

961.617 - 989.199 Stevie Nicol

Frank? If I may, Alexi, there was a discussion about Odegaard and Eze. Odegaard wasn't here today. I don't know the reason why. I guess he's injured. But where was Eze today? He was a real passenger, where we know that he can be so influential in the game. But it's like he's not even trying to do something. He was drawn into the tactic of Chelsea, the defensive tactic of Chelsea.

Chapter 5: What does Spurs' loss to Fulham mean for their relegation battle?

1047.844 - 1050.486 Shaka Hislop

Good pressure, but that's about it.

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1050.601 - 1066.281 Alexis Nunez

Well, Jules, as we all know, I mean, it's no surprise that Arsenal are going to look to find goals off of set pieces. And as Frank said, you know, you only leave it up to the other teams to try find something to do about it, to counteract it. So what did Liam Rossini have to say about Chelsea today conceding those two goals from set pieces?

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1068.37 - 1082.071 Julian Lorenz

It was really unhappy. I mean, it's not the first time. This is an issue that we see week in and week out, especially since even under Maresca, but since he's taken over last weekend against Burnley, for example, the draw, it was a late corner, a goal on the corner.

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1082.271 - 1102.302 Julian Lorenz

And by the way, they could have lost that game on another corner five minutes later if Brun Larsson had been a bit more efficient and precise with his header. So it's not the first time we've seen this. But I can understand his frustration, and that was exactly all his post-match interviews today, whether it was for English TV, English radio, his press conference.

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1102.322 - 1122.491 Julian Lorenz

He was clearly very frustrated, especially about the red card from Neto, obviously because he's so stupid, as we said already, and the goals on set pieces. Okay, you're disappointed and frustrated. You should work more on it. And like Shaka said, why are you not trying something a little bit different like you did in the League Cup semi-final? Like Frank said, you should work more on it.

1122.772 - 1141.999 Julian Lorenz

Because if you're that good offensively on set pieces, surely you could be almost as good defensively. It's the same players who this time defend and not attack. And okay, it's a very different context and the dynamic and the momentum is different. I get that. But still, you've got height, you've got size, you've got power, you've got everything defensively. Sort it out.

1142.14 - 1155.398 Julian Lorenz

And he's been here for a long time now, since December. And yet it's still the same issues that Chelsea have on set pieces against Burnley or against Arsenal. So against a team that is not very good at it and a team that is excellent at it. And yet it's still not sorted out.

Chapter 6: What were the highlights of the Seville Derby match?

1155.614 - 1175.665 Alexis Nunez

Well, Frank, Chelsea have a problem conceding from set pieces, but they also have a problem with discipline in terms of accumulating red cards. Have a look there. They have accumulated seven so far this season. That's three more than Everton in second. And I mean, Rhys James spoke about it after and just spoke about how it has become a problem there for them now.

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1179.34 - 1193.228 Stevie Nicol

It's a real problem. But as Rich James explained, you know, he's always a different player. He's never the same, let's say. And that's something that you have to sort out.

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Chapter 7: What are the implications of Chelsea's red card in the match?

1193.308 - 1215.085 Stevie Nicol

I think they try. But Oneto is mostly the first one. when it comes to complain to the ref. And so he got a very yellow card, and nobody saw that. And that's why I didn't see why he gave another yellow card and a red card. I said, what's wrong with the ref? But again, the tackle. I always say to the forward players, don't try to tackle. It's a skill.

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1215.065 - 1232.928 Stevie Nicol

If you don't have that talent, you're not good at it. And you have to be careful with that. It's dangerous for the opponent's legs because you can break legs because you don't know how to do it. And that's insane. And somebody says, stupid. That was a stupid tackle. It should have carried on. But some people are saying that.

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1233.068 - 1257.119 Stevie Nicol

Olivier Dacour from a former Everton player said, forward players are lazy. So they try to tackle like that. It's over. If they miss, it's OK. It's up to the defenders to sort out the problem. But it's true. He should have carried on with Martinelli and tried to block him, but not tackle. And he should have been able to do that. But, yeah, the disciplinary issue is a real problem.

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1257.139 - 1270.215 Stevie Nicol

And they have to try to calm down, to stop complaining, except the captain, because it's been the main concern for Chelsea. If you cannot finish every game, you know, 10 against 11.

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1270.516 - 1276.785 Alexis Nunez

Chaka, I know you're a neutral in this one, but this yellow card and then the red card, of course, for Necho, particularly annoyed you.

1276.986 - 1304.1 Shaka Hislop

Because it was stupid. If you're on a card, you cannot make that challenge. You're one and one with Martinelli, wide on your right, Arsene's left. OK, Martinelli is quick, but you're on a yellow card. You cannot make that challenge. You've got to stay on your feet. Otherwise, that's exactly what's going to happen. What was even just as frustrating is that he had the nerve to argue about it.

1304.08 - 1325.602 Shaka Hislop

for quite some time. That is as clear yellow card as you will see. Now, Frank said his first yellow was for arguing with the ref. So I missed that. Is that right, Frank? I missed it during the game. So he got his first booking for arguing with the ref. Now, you know what's more frustrating? What's more frustrating than that second yellow card?

1325.622 - 1343.065 Shaka Hislop

More frustrating than trying to make some kind of a show of it? Picking up a booking for arguing with the referee. You're in a derby. Top of the table derby. You pick up a yellow card for arguing with the referee. And those are the things. If you mistime a challenge, fine.

1343.265 - 1369.391 Shaka Hislop

If you think, I have to bring Martinelli down, otherwise, because he's going to go by me and he's one and one, so let me take a booking here, fine. You cannot, in these kinds of games, with all that's at stake for you and the opponent, you cannot pick up a booking for the referee. You simply can't. And so that almost overshadows the second yellow in terms of just pure stupidity.

Chapter 8: What are the predictions for Arsenal's upcoming matches?

2640.968 - 2656.164 Sid Lowe

Yeah, this was. It was a lot of fun. Four brilliant goals. Absolutely brilliant goals. The atmosphere in this place was amazing. We got a little bit of confrontation, which you always get in a derby as well. Because, of course, when Isak Romero scored that goal, he went running to the corner in front of the Betis fans. Well, I suppose the whole ground is the Betis fans really.

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2656.405 - 2671.281 Sid Lowe

Pulled off his shirt. People were piling in. And, you know, that's the kind of thing that we're supposed to say. We don't like this. But, of course, we do. It's part of it. And the derby was brilliant. And both teams go home, I think, thinking that they possibly could have won it. Both of them.

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2672.343 - 2673.266 Frank Leboeuf

Did you say a voyage?

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2674.047 - 2674.548 Alexis Nunez

A voyage?

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2675.15 - 2678.016 Frank Leboeuf

Yeah. Was she on her own boat?

2678.117 - 2685.834 Shaka Hislop

She's been bagging on about how he had to go from Oviedo up in the north to Seville down in the east. He's not stopped talking about it.

2685.854 - 2687.799 Alexis Nunez

I think he considered taking a boat down.

2687.899 - 2689.302 Shaka Hislop

It was that far.

2689.282 - 2700.746 Alexis Nunez

But you know what? That's why we pay him the big bucks. All right, well, let's talk about Real Madrid, shall we? Because they are in action tomorrow in some more La Liga action. They go up against Getafe. But Jules, a lot of focus is on Kylian Mbappe.

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