The Biggest AI Security Problem Isn't the Model. It's This. | Devvret Rishi
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What exactly is an AI agent and why is its access the biggest security risk?
We define agents as just really like models with access. So like access to tools or APIs that can start to do work inside an organization.
Once these become agents unseen and visible to the humans talking to each other, transferring data to each other, you're really vulnerable because you don't know where the data is going beyond agents having access to tools and to databases. Agents are talking to each other. Where do you see this agent economy going?
There's a question about like, well, AI agents and AI like cause job displacement. AI may not, but someone who knows AI.
We're going to talk about Rubrik. We're going to talk about Rubrik Agent Cloud. Can you start by introducing yourself to listeners? Tell us a little of your background so far as it's relevant, particularly education and what you were doing before Rubrik.
Yeah, I can start at the beginning maybe, and I'll just say that I'm Dove. So I was one of the co-founders and CEO for Predabase, which was a generative AI infrastructure company. We started right before the beginning of the Gen AI wave in 2021, and really were helping organizations build and then deploy the precursor to large language models, which were really pre-trained deep learning models. It came out of our experience at Uber and Google, which is where I and my co-founders worked. Prior to starting the company, I was at Google for about five years. Before that, I was always in the AI space doing my master's and others in core computer science and stats. So that's really my background. My company was acquired by Rubrik last summer.
And so we actually joined forces with our core machine learning and LLM infrastructure platform. So we were the model backbone that drove deployments of AI in Fortune 500 organizations, faster tech forward moving companies as well. So we really had a really broad gamut. And when we joined forces with Rubrik, the core idea was we wanted to take the platform we had built and mix in what Rubrik did really well. Rubrik is a data and cyber resilience company. It started off its core offerings around making sure that businesses were resilient to downtime and data, layered on security offerings for cyber. And with the acquisition of my company, Predabase, we're building kind of a combination of like our AI platform plus data and identity security into a net new offering we call the Rubrik Agent Cloud.
The core goal and the observation that we had is that AI is coming very quickly and The AI tools and models are actually getting quite good very quickly as well. And so people are starting to adopt these tools en masse. But the thing that's actually slowing down their ability to deliver ROI is that I think that there isn't a great framework to manage the risk of what these agents can do inside of an organization. So that's the challenge we set out to solve with the Rubric Agent Cloud.
Before cyber resilience and that sort of thing, Rubrik was focused on making sure that all the ports to the data were closed and all the various things that People screw up the leaks data.
I can tell you a little bit about the early days of both Predabase and Rubrik. Rubrik, I know from being here, but I think Rubrik really started its early days with a mentality of assumed breach, which was to say that there was lots of solutions that were trying to say, well, let's make sure that the door is locked. But the real thing you needed to be able to do was make sure that as a tax actually happens, for the ones that would get through the defenses and were successful, did you have a way to be resilient towards your business? It used to be the case that most of the things that drove business downtime were like natural disaster, fire, flood. These were the things that you kind of conventionally bought that insurance policy for.
But increasingly over time, that became more geared towards ransomware attacks and cyber. So security became really the primary threat vector that required business resilience. So Rubrik really thought about regardless of the types of instances in which your business might be put up.
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Chapters
5 chapters
1
What exactly is an AI agent and why is its access the biggest security risk?
0:00–11:10
2
How did Devvret’s background at Google, Uber and Predibase shape Rubrik Agent Cloud?
11:10–21:33
3
What real‑world incidents illustrate the danger of uncontrolled AI agents?
21:33–34:44
4
Why do enterprises face a choose‑between‑block‑or‑grant dilemma for AI agents?
34:44–47:32
5
How does Rubrik’s Agent Cloud enforce plain‑English security policies in real time?
47:32–47:36
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