Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
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Welcome to the AR-15 Podcast. If this show is for you, if you just bought your first rifle, or you've been building them for years, there's something we can all do to take our black rifles to the next level. My name is Nick Dooley. I am joined tonight by the director of propaganda, Joe. Good evening, everyone. Our lovely and colorful co-host, Garth. Howdy, howdy.
And again, tonight we have a very special guest that, uh, we'll be talking about things that I get to nerd out about. And we have Ryan from fry tech. How's it going? Thanks for having me. Oh, we're super glad to have you here. And, uh, I know I'm excited to get into, uh, the magnetic buffer stuff, but, uh, before we go into that, uh, do you guys do anything fun with guns in the last week or so?
Yeah.
Well, not last week. What, two weeks ago we went out? You and I hit the range there for a minute, zeroed my XL, the Gideon XL on my PCC, and then zeroed the Huey back on the Hellbreaker and tried to run that with the FRT with subs, and it was more of a three-round burst than a full go. So I'll settle for that. It'll run just fine with the 110s. and it'll shoot semi-auto just fine on the subs.
So I was pretty good. I was happy with that. We did a little bit of pistol work. I did manage to run the controller battery dead for my Ace VR, or on the Ace. I've been using it that much that the one battery went dead already. So that's been interesting. It's really cool going back and shooting some of the stages I shot when I first got it.
and reshooting some of them and without even trying how much better my scores are. So once it gets, I'm still waiting for it to get nice enough. I'll have to actually go try to run some, some decent drills and see what happens.
Well,
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Chapter 2: How did Ryan from Fry Tech LLC get into firearms?
It's on the wall behind me. I still haven't shot it. I'm sorry.
I think, I think if you have a firearm for like six months and you don't shoot it, we get to take it five on the wall behind me right now.
So, yeah. So we'll be out there tomorrow. Okay. Sure.
Um,
Uh, no, I, uh, I went out to, and, uh, we went out the one day and shot the mediator XLs. Uh, I know I got mine as well and got that zeroed in. on my PCC as well.
And then I, uh, last weekend had a kind of, uh, an odd training exercise just because I was bouncing back and forth across the state and, uh, wound up with, uh, the call at a two day range day experience, but it was like half a Friday, all day Saturday and half a Sunday, uh, and running mainly military stuff with that. But we did pull out the M forgery and run it against a full auto M4.
And when using the same ammo, you cannot tell the difference audibly with that Atreus in there.
I didn't even think to ask you about that. That's pretty cool.
Yeah, we did break that. I was like, all right, hey, we got a... Okay, well, we better see how they go time against running the legit versus the forgery. And I was exceedingly impressed. Ryan, did you do anything fun with the last couple weeks other than getting back from SHOT Show and travel and all of the stuff?
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Chapter 3: What is the magnetic buffer system and how does it work?
It's not that way. The feds can still walk into your house and ask... Not quite. I don't know the way Minnesota is going and the way some of those Supreme Court things are going. Our Fourth Amendment doesn't last. It isn't lasted. That's why we don't live in Minnesota, Joe. No, but it's a state. It's the Supreme Court saying that they can go into your house without warrants.
I don't care what state it is. I don't care what it's for. It's bullshit.
Yeah. We had a problem with that with Game Fish and Parks here where they could enter into anybody's house to look in their freezer at any time to see if they had over limit of wild game. Wow. It's extreme overreach.
I was just going to say overreach.
Yeah. So that is the... That is the quick thing on the law that apparently everybody is making a big deal out of. It's cool. It's posturing. It does definitely show intent that we like to have it, but it is not.
In that actual statute, it talks about before they did this, it was machine guns, short barrel shotguns, And suppressors. It doesn't even mention short barrel rifles. I didn't see anybody in South Dakota running around with a short barrel rifle before this.
So that tells me that nothing is going to change. Yeah, it did not change anything. It took it off a list going, oh, no, this is just a safety thing. And it's posturing. It's good. Like, I'm glad to see it's a step in the right direction for awareness saying they're not bad. But legally, it's not going to change anything or do anything.
Okay. Well, most of the guys who were asking me, we're going to run down to the gun show this weekend. I'm like, yeah, we can do it. I'm like, I'd hold off on that. Yeah, that's not.
Yeah, it doesn't. It just says they're no longer regulated by South Dakota. That doesn't stop. You still have to jump through all the federal stuff.
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Chapter 4: What are the advantages of using magnets in buffer systems?
But yeah, it was pretty quick into it that I kind of started just fucking around with the mechanics of them. I'm one of those people, I got to take shit apart no matter what. But yeah, so then I fell down a rabbit hole. started doing some of the 3d printing stuff that, that back before it got where it was a big deal out here.
But real, real soon into it, I, I started seeing things that I wanted to change and, you know, just different things I thought could be cooler. And yeah, that's around where, so I taught myself to CAD. I was into the 3d thing and, uh, taught myself to CAD so I could start making stuff that I wanted. And I made the, you guys familiar with the Brujaria? That was the, okay.
So the Brujaria was the first, first step in everything. And that had, that had everything that's in the patent basically. Um, with the power thing where you're generating power. It had an optic that was running off of power that was generated from either racking it or shooting it. And there was actually three versions of the back end.
the one that's in what people can buy now, the buffers that are available, that's the, that's, that's the all kind of magnet version. Actually they did a hybrid, a slight, slight hybrid of that. But, but so, yeah, so there was three versions of the back end on that and how I kind of got onto the, the whole trip of generating power was the first, first version I had, on the coil.
I had a coil on the buffer tube section. And with that, there was a trigger. It was trigger activated so that when you pulled the trigger, a slight jolt of electricity made that an electromagnet and it slowed the bolt down as it went through. And then, uh, So there's a version that had a spring and a normal bolt, a spring and the bolt, but the buffer weight was actually magnets.
And then the all-magnet version instead of the spring and buffer weight. And then there's a combination, obviously, the hybrid one where there's a tiny piece of spring that they're using on what the buffer system, the MBS as they're calling it, that you can get from Pamex.
Yep. And then, uh, as I say, I have that pulled up here to kind of show what it is. They, they don't have a great job of showing exactly what it is, but so for anybody listening, I'm going to try and explain this, uh, As I go through, so you have a different buffer tube that you would install that still takes a scope and everything, or not scope, stock, and everything like that.
And essentially, you're replacing the buffer that you would use for a standard AR with a series of magnets that are encapsulated together that have, you know, it's all one piece. but you're using magnetic dampening to slow down and mitigate recoil. Is that the right way of putting it?
Yeah, but it's a little more, though, than just buffering. The magnets are the force that is operating the bolt to go back and forth, though. So the spring piece that is in it is actually... Only for the purpose of, so when they were testing my prototype, which this one here, this is all 100% magnets in here.
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Chapter 5: How does the magnetic buffer system improve shooting performance?
And I can actually take these encased magnets and take them outside and chuck them as hard as I can against a rock, throw as high as I can in the sky. And they come down and they seem to not break at all. Like you would think maybe they might be broken inside, but they stay 100% intact. But so that was how I dealt with that. But so so they're encased in carbon fiber nylon.
And yeah, so basically they have just this little tiny piece of spring. And it's funny because everybody that knows me, you know, especially on the X. I'm like really anti-spring. My whole mission is to like completely rid from here on out of springs other than for like uses of like, I don't know, like little springs where it's probably more practical.
Well, give me the case of like buffer buffering. It's showing a lot, a lot of a lot of benefits, you know, just not just the recoil and the flat, you know, no, no muzzle rise. But like people are saying, they're able to put these the cart. It's the the MBSC for carving when from Pamex is what they're calling it. And this one people are putting on nine millimeters or their AR nines.
short barrels all the way up to longer barrels, suppressed, not suppressed, and then switch it over to an AR-15, same thing, different barrel lengths. Suppressed, unsuppressed, piston system. What is it? The superlative arms. I've got a couple of guys that run them on those. I know Chad had some brand that has like a specific buffer and it's not tunable or something.
And he wasn't able to get it to work with that. But he says in the article, he didn't expect that it would. But it does on tunable systems. So it's pretty versatile. Um, it's almost like the magnets are self-tuning.
That's, that's awesome. And it's a, it's a great way to look at this just because like when you and I talked about it at shot show and you're explaining, I was like, okay, it works kind of like a maglev train.
and you know where you're you know they support all the weight with magnets as it goes through yeah and those things like this this actually makes a lot of sense because it could cushion everything and mitigate a lot of that uh in the in the chat that we have somebody here uh touch your knife so i can see the power of the magnet on the outside of the buffer tube like will it's the thing stick to the outside of the buffer oh oh okay um so we search for something ferris
yeah okay so yeah it will hold uh yep you know it's funny uh chad just posted a picture and it showed you know with his stock on his mbs and and then uh so he had a little little wrench but yeah so you know technically it's been a benefit i've been working on shit and you know you're always dropping little wrenches and stuff and they'll they'll go right on there and
And I see that I watched what says that might be the answer to the Lima 6 buffer issue of having to use an AR-10 buffer. It could be.
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Chapter 6: What challenges did Ryan face while developing his product?
It's still, you have to have the AR 10 buffer as it is shorter. The bolt is longer in the Lima.
Okay. So then, yeah. Okay. So, so yeah, it does need then a longer buffer tube on that. Then it, it, it couldn't use a carbine buffer tube or they can on the Lima.
Yeah.
I don't know. I haven't actually played with one that much. So I'll be interested to see what these guys come up with to find out if this mitigates a lot of those problems.
Yeah. Yeah. It's going to, I imagine they're going to, uh, Pam X is going to do some extensive testing on it. Um, but yeah, that's, that's the thing. A lot of, a lot of people on my ex, they're always, they're like, they're, they're always tagging me and Lima six. They're like, you guys need to. And it's, but yeah, so it's, it's going to happen. So.
Yeah, that's awesome. And I know that we always talk about like they're loving to see innovation and things moving forward. And when you went through this, like I know you kind of gave the 30 second elevator pitch of how you came up to look at it. When you went through and we're looking at this, like what was the first thing that made you think about magnets?
So how did I come up with the idea?
Yeah. Yeah.
Okay. So, yeah. So, so I'm, you know, I'm a tattoo artist, right? 38 years now. Um, and so I, uh, Well, now I use one of those pins, but before, for the longest time, I always built my own machines and they use magnetics, little coils. And this guy had come out with a machine where he had drilled a hole in the coil and the needle bar went through the center.
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Chapter 7: How does the magnetic buffer system compare to traditional systems?
I mean, there's a lot of potential in that. Um, I'm actually working on, you know, originally I had one large coil that was over the buffer section and, and that's, and, that basically I figured out you can have a lot more little coils and, and get a lot like generate a lot more purse of these little ass coils here.
But so imagine I could put this entire thing with little coils here and, and then you don't even have to see that it's got a cover piece on it. But I forgot the exact, I think it's, I think with like 50 of these coils here, was it one shot? Was it 1.57 joules per shot it generates or something? I have the math all written. I have it all written down.
But, I mean, you could dump a couple 30-round mags and you can have like a power bank generating a lot of power. You could definitely... run, um, a lot of, I've seen everything from, uh, last, not last year, but the year before I saw at SHOT Show, there was some trigger they had, it was electronic and you could set the pound. Yeah.
But I mean, even like, uh, some of this stuff for military, like, um, what do they call it? The, uh, the, um, HUD, HUD system or something. Yeah. So it could power stuff like that.
Yeah, there's a lot of that because I know that joules is generally not something that a lot of people start to look at or kind of understand.
Yeah, I got it translating into joules to watts and volts, but a lot of useful electricity.
Well, joules is kind of the standard that everything else in the world runs on. Because people talk about instead of horsepower, it's how many joules of energy an engine puts out. It's the baseline for how a lot of things are going through. But if this was coupled with some of the optics, like some of the solar-powered optics and stuff like that, it's as it moves through, anytime you're moving...
even theoretically just carrying your gun it will have that little bit of movement as it goes through and kind of be continuously charging and adding just a little bit to go through to add as those things went through and it's it's super interesting and neat to see like it might not be the yeah it's the next advancement on the battlefield like this is awesome but it's hey there's potential here why are we not looking at it yeah
Well, I mean, I figured, look at what some of these minds are doing with the phones and how small they can get stuff. I mean, I imagine that in the future, when this takes on a life of its own, I mean, brains smarter than mine are probably going to run with this one pretty hard.
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Chapter 8: Where can listeners find more information about Fry Tech LLC?
Um,
So when you started making your first one, when you first started making your design, I know that you have your prototype there, and it's bigger than the standard mil spec, and...
That was because I wasn't thinking of... In my head, I wasn't thinking, oh, yeah, make it mil-spec, and everybody's already got their stock pieces. I'm thinking, okay, I'm going to come to market with this. At the same time, I'm going to have these buffers that go on it and do... But so... Yeah.
Um, well, and the price that it was to get these made once I realized that I probably should have made it a little skinnier. Um, I didn't have the money to, to pay to get all these other ones made for that. And I figured that if a company licensed it, they would do like Pam X did and just make it fit in a mil spec tube.
Um, yeah, it was just more circumstantial that it ended up the size that it was.
Um, Hey, and those things happen because sometimes, especially when you're going through design phases, if you're not hampered by trying to make things fit in a box that's there already, you can get your design out and prove it and do a proof of concept and then go back and scale up or down to whatever it is you need to do.
So like that part makes sense to me, like with just understanding how prototyping works and things like that. And you know, it's,
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