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State of The Second 116 – Dry Fire That Actually Works (ft. Laser Ammo)
07 Jan 2026
Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
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Welcome to Gun Owners of America State of the Second Podcast. I'm Kaylee.
And I'm John. And today we're joined by Kristen from Laser Ammo. How are you today?
Hey, I'm doing great. Thank you. Thank you for having me.
Well, thank you for being on. We're going to start off with our first segment, which is rapid fire questions. We're going to ask you five questions. You kind of answer them as quickly as you want. So what is the best training tip you've ever heard?
Practice. I mean, that's pretty, pretty straightforward. Practice safely, of course.
What was the first class you ever took when it came to firearms training?
Actually, it was in San Diego by the San Diego Police Department when I was 18. I took a basic firearm safety class because I wanted to be a cop and I was in California. So I figured what better to take a class from professionals.
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Chapter 2: What are the essentials of dry-fire training?
What is your dream gun?
Dream gun. All of them. I really don't have a dream gun. I'm a girl and I don't know that all girls are that way, but a lot of the girls that I train are that way. They want the one that just seems to work and we can make work for us. So I'm a Smith and Wesson person. So pretty much most of mine are Smith and Wesson.
What do you consider the most influential platform for consuming educational content in the firearm space?
So influential content. There's just so much out there. I guess, I mean, you guys are great. I get stuff in my email all the time from you guys. I, because I do laser ammo social, I see a lot of content outside of my personal channel. USCCA puts a lot of content out, which I think it's great. just, you know, then I see a lot of influencers because I deal with influencers.
So I don't really have one. I just, and I think that that's a good thing. I think it's kind of like financial planning. You don't put all your eggs in one basket and everybody's got different opinions, especially news worthy things are biased, potentially biased information. So I think it's good to kind of see a different points of view so that you can just make your own decisions on things.
Okay, and the last question is, what is the most overlooked skill for a shooter to practice?
Overlooked, I think too many people don't practice and too many people get complacent in their safety, I think.
Well, that wraps up our rapid fire questions. No. Let's go ahead and dive into this. Who are you? How did you get in the industry? What is laser ammo? All that stuff.
So again, my name is Kristen. I wanted, as I said, I wanted to be a cop when I was younger. So I learned how to shoot and I just naturally found that I was good at it, you know, basic. So I kind of stuck with basic target shooting and moved to Virginia, military kid, moved down to Texas and joined a ladies group.
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Chapter 3: What overlooked skills should shooters focus on?
Pretty amazing.
That is pretty amazing.
And if you want to record it yourself, you can. We give the instructions. But, you know, it's a lot of work because you're going to have to record the scenario, the branches, and make sure that you're in the same position for the next stage. Like if you have one that said the guy falls down because you shoot him. then there's going to be one that he's going to be charging at you.
He needs to be in the same spot at the end, you know, to make it look like, you know, it's like he shows up and now he's not all of a sudden over, you know, on the far left or something like that. So, so it's a little bit of extra work, but if you have the video technology and the know-how, then it's pretty easy to do.
And I love that, you know, it kind of goes into that, you know, the importance of practicing. I know you started talking about that in the rapid fire portion where, you know, practice, practice, practice. And, and I love the, the, the saying, you know, practice is, it makes perfect. It makes permanent. And so we want to be practicing good fundamentals.
We want to be actively reminding ourselves that if there's one area that, you know, in your day or in your month that you want to relax on, training and being an active participant in your own protection and the protection of your family is not the area that you want to be. relax on. And so I think that this is a great opportunity to bring that, make it a little bit easier.
We're all running really busy lives. And so this, this makes it easier. And, and I think in many ways brings a,
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Chapter 4: How can home training setups enhance shooting skills?
a fun aspect to it.
Of course, because dry fire can be boring if you're just, you know, racking the slide, pull the trigger, rack the slide, pull the trigger kind of thing. And not only that, but it just kind of cuts out some of the barriers. Like maybe a range is an hour away from you and you finally get to settle down at seven o'clock at night.
Now you got to drive an hour to that range or maybe it's an outdoor range and the weather's bad. Or maybe you have littles at home and you got to wait for them to go to bed. Well, then either get a babysitter or you go by yourself or whatever. So this kind of cuts out a lot of the barriers for, like you just said, for those busy people that just may not have a lot of extra time.
And then there's no rule that says you have to practice 60 minutes a day. It's like putting your hands on it. Maybe five or 10 minutes a day is something I tell ladies when I train them. when I'm trying to fix scars, like you have the teacup grip or something, it's like, you know, you can practice five minutes a day, just picking it up, getting a good grip and putting it down.
You don't have to go from picking it up, pulling the trigger, you know, like all the whole rotation, just picking apart a piece that you're struggling with and maybe pick it up 20 times or, you know, or pulling the trigger 20 times to get, you know, to train your brain about pulling it, you know, in a steady pace versus, you know, jerking that trigger.
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And what are the barriers to entry that you think stop a lot of women from owning firearms?
Have you guys ever been to SHOT Show? Yes.
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Chapter 5: How does Laser Ammo improve firearm training?
Let somebody else train them. Coming from experience. Let somebody else train them. Let them be there. Be supportive. But let somebody else do it, please. That's my PSA for the day.
I have a good business because of it. And it's not that you're not great at what you do. It's just, you might have a harder time explaining things to people who don't learn the same way as you do.
Just like if I were to, I haven't, I can't think of an idea right off the hand, but maybe if I was to try to teach you something about a car that, you know, it's just, we're women or men are completely different. We are innately good at certain things. And uh, educating people on how to do things with a firearm is not it for women.
So you need, we, we need you guys to, to be, like you said, supportive and not necessarily just put a gun and load the magazine. Cause I've had a lot of ladies too. They're like, I'm like, have you loaded a fire, you know, your magazine before? And it's like, no, my husband always does it. And I'm like, all right, well stop that. You need to learn how to do it the hard way, which is manually.
And then with the reloader, I'll show you how to do the reloader. And so it's just, you know, all the things I talk about what the parts are called. So you don't go to the gun store and it's like, so that I want the thing that looks like that thing. And it's like, now you can use the words, use your words, the right terminology, right? You know, I joke about the clip thing.
I'm like, this is a clip in my hair. This is a magazine, you know? So, so they, and the old guys may still call it clips, but you get a, I just want you to at least know the right terminology that is used in the present day.
I must be a cruel husband because I made my wife load all her own mags.
Good. I'm glad you did.
That was the first thing I taught her. Yeah. I was like, you need to learn how to load it and how to rack it and go through the functions properly. That was the first thing I taught her because I was like, I can't. I'm not going to be there. You're going to need this basic knowledge.
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