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Two Guys And A Fence Post 86 – The Alex Pretti debacle.

10 Feb 2026

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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?

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I am on a tear right now. And I didn't give Logan any time to prepare for this. I just watched a video of something going on right now in Fort Collins. And I say that as of time of recording, obviously. I just got the video of it. Gays Against Groomers is in Fort Collins at a King Soopers somewhere. Not sure which one it is.

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And there is somebody out there who I don't know if it's a they them or whatever. Big old hillbilly looking thing is out there screaming, hooting and hollering, saying, you know, check. You know, do you want these people to check your genitals and all this crap? Not sure what that's all about. I just watched the video. But.

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Chapter 2: What recent protests are discussed in the episode?

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Something that Logan and I are maybe not 100 percent well versed in, but we've experienced it is. line crossing. Um, and this person is like up in this guy's grill. Uh, so we'll call a guy guy is the guy trying to get petitions sign for something, uh, about their group gaze against groomers.

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Um, this other person, we'll call them a job of the hut is, uh, hooting and hollering, screaming and protesting this petition.

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Saying that it harms trans people and queer folk and all this stuff, whatever. And they get into a verbal altercation where Guy tells Jabba... hey, you guys should go. Like, I understand that you're protesting, but you're intimidating people. And I guess the cops had already been there at one point and was like, hey, you're not doing anything illegal. Neither of you are. But here's the line.

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Please don't cross it. And then they left and they left it at that. And usually Fort Collins PD is really good about handling things. So I trust that they gave it their best judgment. What I was just telling Logan, and I think is hilarious, is while yes, they're technically not doing anything wrong, and they're going back and forth like, you're intimidating trans people.

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And then the guy's like, well, you're intimidating the people that might be signing our petition. Whatever. It's a pissing contest. But some guy walks up and walks up to Jabba. And is like, hey, thank you for screwing with these people, this group, Gays Against Groomers. And then gives them a high five.

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The problem is, and Logan, you can jump in and correct me if I'm wrong here, but as he walks by the table where the petitions are and there are two ladies sitting at this table, he balls up both of his fists and he slams them on this table. And then he reaches out and gives them the F-U and says, F-U. Is that harassment at the very least?

190.128 - 214.093 Logan

I would definitely consider that harassment. I mean, if it's me personally, if I was the one that was sitting there at that table and this guy is approaching me or he approaches the table, balls up his fists, and then raises them as if he's going to strike, he's going to get punched in the solar plexus before he figures out what's going on.

214.394 - 231.193 Logan

you have the means and ability, you know, there might not have been a verbal intent, but the means and the ability are there, you know, to get hit. So, yeah, there's nowhere in the law does it say that you have to get punched in the face first.

Chapter 3: How do Colt and Logan view the role of law enforcement in protests?

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And I'd be like, whoa, you're Jabba the Hutt. You're scaring me, bro. Chill.

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543.302 - 561.014 Logan

It's just, it's just, it's so wild. It's wild how, People want to get animated over that kind of stuff. You know, I mean, I get it. It's a it's a weekend. You're probably not working, but there's definitely better shit to do with your time. Go to church. But yeah.

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561.155 - 566.882 Colt

Yeah. Right. Yeah. Just yeah. Do or do or don't at this point. Like, it's not my problem.

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567.976 - 587.065 Logan

But so I've had a couple of people ask me my take on, you know, and I know that this has happened a couple of weeks ago or maybe like a month ago. I can't remember the dude that got shot that whatever the fuck his name is. Did did you see what MSNBC did to his picture?

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588.31 - 590.995 Colt

Yeah, I did. I did. They dogged the shit out of it.

591.436 - 598.089 Logan

That is so wild. He was too ugly before, so they had to pretty him up so people could feel sorry for him.

598.791 - 605.003 Colt

I don't know if it was that or the fact that he looked stereotypically Jewish.

605.641 - 628.246 Logan

Um, uh, the, the, whatever, whatever they did to him, it didn't help. I mean, he still looks Jewish, but the fact that he's a Jew doesn't make, doesn't really make any difference. But, um, basically what, what, uh, was been asked, or I guess some people have kind of reached out and to get my thoughts on like, would, if it was me, what I, you know, cause I carry a gun everywhere I go.

628.927 - 658.036 Logan

Um, I'm always, I'm always either stay strapped or get clapped. Right. Um, But the thing is, man, is why – the question that I have is why did he feel the need to take a gun to a protest that he knew or had a pretty good idea or inclination that – you know, it's probably gonna turn violent or there's gonna be a fight, right? There's probably gonna be some physical stuff.

Chapter 4: How do Colt and Logan define the line between protest and intimidation?

661.68 - 691.96 Logan

When you make the decision to wear a firearm, right? And this, again, a firearm is a tool of self-defense. It can end things rather quickly so that you can go home to your family and you put the bad guy in the dirt. When you make the decision to do that, though, you no longer can afford to be an aggressor in any situation. It is, in fact, your job to try to avoid aggression.

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those situations that are going to possibly escalate into a violent encounter. You do not have the ability to do that anymore. And if you feel so inclined to get into one of those situations, like what happened in front of my house a couple of weeks ago, you know, I did not. I did not have my gun on me. I was not, you know. I wasn't armed. I had a knife. That was about it. But you don't do that.

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721.898 - 746.643 Logan

You just don't. But it is an unwritten rule that when you are wearing a gun, you do not go try to find trouble. You don't put yourself in those situations where you might have to draw down on somebody or something like that. It's such an ignorant thing to do. Now that the whole thing of, you know, was it his right to go protest? Absolutely. It was, was it his right to carry a gun? Absolutely.

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746.703 - 750.527 Logan

It was, uh, you know, he, he, I guess he, I think he had a permit.

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I think it's what they said that he, that he had to have some kind of carry permit from the state.

756.373 - 775.285 Logan

Um, and obviously zero training, uh, or maturity, uh, whatsoever. Um, you know, so everybody's like, Oh, well, you know, they, the cops executed him. Um, Do I think that the cops are... Sorry, not cops. It wasn't local law enforcement.

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It was ICE. Actually, it was CBP.

779.091 - 805.933 Logan

Yeah, the Border Patrol. What a lot of people don't really understand, and I'm not saying that this is a good excuse by any stretch of the word... The amount of training that those guys had before that incident was very, very null. I mean, there was there wasn't much that they're not trained to deal with violent encounters like this. You know, not like law enforcement is. Someone heard gun.

Chapter 5: What examples of harassment are explored in the context of protests?

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Whoever negligently discharged that firearm, I guess the story is that they disarmed him. The guy that took the gun from this guy, it went off. There was some speculation that it was a Sig Sauer P320 and that it went off on its own. I mean, I don't know if that's even close to being accurate.

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If the picture that is circulating right now of his firearm is accurate, then yes, it was a 320. And I highly doubt it was an accidental in something like that. It was, it was 99% a negligent discharge. Yeah. So you've already got people in their twenties and they never went off, but the, you know,

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Chapter 6: What are the responsibilities of gun ownership mentioned in the episode?

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The people that were there heard gun, right? They all said he's armed. He's got a gun. All right, cool. You're also in an environment that is extremely volatile. Then you hear a gunshot go off. And, you know, if you're just standing within, you know, a couple of feet of a firearm and it goes off in a situation like that, it's going to be loud. It scares the shit out of everybody.

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And so the last thing everybody knew was that this guy's got a gun. So we draw and he might have another one. And so the gun goes bang and now everybody's, you know, basically ventilating. Um, someone also asked, you know, could, what are some preventative measures that could have been taken? Um, so where that guy could still be alive today. Um, and I got a really easy one.

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I got a really, a really easy solution to this. Um, and it's gonna, it's gonna completely blow everybody's hair back when I say this. Um, Don't take your gun to a protest. We can back it up even more than that. Find something else better to do with your time than go and protest. Go help out at the VA where you worked, you goofy bastard. Used to work. Yeah, used to. Past tense.

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923.797 - 925.279 Colt

Well, no, no. I mean, he was fired.

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925.96 - 929.543 Logan

No, no, he's dead. Yeah, he doesn't work there anymore.

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No, he didn't work there before the protest. He didn't? No. So I don't know if you heard, but he was fired three weeks prior to that incident. Ah, that explains why he didn't protest. For comments to patients that were, I think they said uncomfortable in nature, but I think it was sexually explicit.

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Yeah, the guy's got a history of, well, I don't know if you could call it a history, but he was fired three weeks prior to that, and he did have some other things in his past. And then obviously there was the kicking of the taillight of an ICE vehicle or CBP vehicle that they suspect was him, and BBC actually did facial recognition, and it's like a 90-something percent match.

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So there's reason to believe that he was involved in destruction of property at a previous protest. And this guy – I mean – and I have two solutions for this as well because there's obviously more than one way to skin a cat here.

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Obviously, you're correct in saying go do something better with your time and or don't bring a firearm to a protest, let alone a protest that you know could go violent very quickly. Um, second thing is, is if you're going to bring a firearm to a protest, which you are legally allowed to do under both the first and second amendments simultaneously, um, don't get involved, stay peaceful.

Chapter 7: How does public discourse shape views on immigration and identity?

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And it was cool. I understood it. Um, but the thing is, is like, yeah, dude, don't bring a firearm at all to this protest. I mean, unless you plan on using it, buddy. And in which case you're going to get what's coming to you, but also just don't get involved.

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And that's, I think what sucks as our nation right now is we've gotten to this point where it's like, we are trying to exercise our rights, right? Right. You look at the left, the leftists around the country and all of a sudden they're going out and buying firearms now. Well, if you're going to exercise the Second Amendment, so am I. And it's like, cool, you should do that.

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1203.198 - 1205.903 Logan

We've been trying to do that for 30 years.

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1206.796 - 1224.981 Colt

You should also do your due diligence in understanding that you have a massive responsibility the second you put that thing on you and leave the house. I mean, even when you're at your house, you have a huge responsibility with firearms. You guys are exercising this right without doing the research. You think you've researched the First Amendment so well. You've got it so down.

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But then you're going to go out and buy a firearm and do no research on what the Second Amendment stands for and why we have it and the duty and responsibility that comes with it. And I wish you guys would do your due diligence like you do with every other amendment that you're now failing to do with the second amendment.

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And one of those things is don't create a problem where there doesn't need to be one.

1249.439 - 1271.833 Logan

Well, right. Yeah, that that's that's the biggest one. And, you know, whenever when I'm doing the classes, the refreshers and the initial CCW classes, you know, I speak to that. You know, we don't you don't have the ability. You don't have the you cannot you are not afforded the ability to be an asshole in any situation. Your best your best option every single time is to walk away.

1271.893 - 1291.678 Logan

Now, it kind of sounds a little strange because either right before that or right after that, I talk about, you know, dead men tell no tales, right? And we're putting, we're putting bad people down. So it's, it kind of, sometimes I've had one person say, yeah, it was kind of funny that, you know, you're saying, don't get into a fight, you know, walk away, turn the other cheek basically.

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