Fitness Confidential

Lunches and Leg Strength - Episode 2693

05 Sep 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Episode 2693 - Vinnie Tortorich and Chris Shaffer host a call-in show with a discussion around school lunches, salt intake, leg strength, and more. ht...

Better Than We Found It - Episode 2692

03 Sep 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Episode 2692 - Vinnie Tortorich and Chris Shaffer discuss news on GLP-1 use and blindness, health with GenZ, and leaving the world better than we foun...

Revelations and Exploitations - Episode 2691

01 Sep 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Episode 2691- Vinnie Tortorich and Anna Vocino discuss the docuseries "Fit for TV" and its behind-the-scenes revelations and exploitations. https://vi...

Having An Epiphany with Tim Mallien - Episode 2690

29 Aug 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Episode 2690 - Vinnie Tortorich welcomes guest Tim Mallien for an update, discusses struggling with consistency, then having an epiphany, and more. ht...

Moving In a Better Direction - Episode 2689

27 Aug 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Episode 2689 - Vinnie Tortorich and Chris Shaffer discuss how things are moving in a better direction with Gen Z, animal protein, the reduction of alc...

Always Be Learning - Episode 2688

25 Aug 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Episode 2688 - Vinnie Tortorich and Anna Vocino motivate and challenge you to always be learning, ramp up your goals, and look at the long game. https...

Benefits of Hormone Therapy with Dr. Laura Buchanan - Episode 2687

22 Aug 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Episode 2687 - Vinnie Tortorich welcomes Dr. Laura Buchanan to discuss fears behind the Women's Health Initiative and the many benefits of hormone the...

A Way to Build Character - Episode 2686

20 Aug 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Episode 2686 - Vinnie Tortorich and Chris Shaffer discuss the NSNG® VIP group, electrolyte drinks, and a way to build character through fitness. http...

Understanding Sugar - Episode 2685

18 Aug 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Episode 2685 - Vinnie Tortorich and Anna Vocino discuss the abuse of weight loss drugs, understanding sugar in your body, and more. https://vinnietort...

The Tipping Point with Shannon Davis - Episode 2684

15 Aug 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Episode 2684- Vinnie Tortorich welcomes "rogue" dietitian Shannon Davis, and they discuss hitting the tipping point, PE in schools, and weight loss dr...

A Better Diet Means Better Results - Episode 2683

13 Aug 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Episode 2683 - Vinnie Tortorich and Chris Shaffer discuss advertising, the Beyond Meat rebranding, and how a better diet means better results, and mor...

Addressing a Plateau - Episode 2682

11 Aug 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Episode 2682 - Vinnie Tortorich and Anna Vocino discuss generations and trends in aging, what to do in addressing a plateau, and more. https://vinniet...

The Downsides of Shortcuts with Michelle Hurn - Episode 2681

08 Aug 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Episode 2681- Vinnie Tortorich welcomes dietitian Michelle Hurn, and they discuss disrupting Big Food, lobbying for truth, and the downsides of shortc...

Making The Most Of Your Time - Episode 2680

06 Aug 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Episode 2680 - Vinnie Tortorich and Chris Shaffer discuss Parkinson's disease, purpose, the marketing of sugar, and making the most of your time. http...

Working With What You Have - Episode 2679

04 Aug 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Episode 2679 - Vinnie Tortorich and Anna Vocino discuss goals while aging, working with what you have, NSNG® as a baseline, and fitness in schools. h...

Trying Extraordinary Things with Laura Watts - Episode 2678

01 Aug 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Episode 2678 - Vinnie Tortorich welcomes ultrarunner Laura Watts and discusses ordinary people trying extraordinary things, like running ultramarathon...

Questioning the Reasons - Episode 2677

30 Jul 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Episode 2677- Vinnie Tortorich and Chris Shaffer discuss questioning the reasons behind slower weight loss for women, lab-grown meat, and fitness trac...

The Risk of Side Effects - Episode 2676

28 Jul 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Episode 2676 - Vinnie Tortorich and Anna Vocino discuss recent traveling adventures, the risk of side effects with some medications, and more. https:/...

Metabolic Matters with Dr. Tro Kalayjian - Episode 2675

25 Jul 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Episode 2675 - Vinnie Tortorich welcomes Dr. Tro Kalayjian and they discuss metabolic matters related to GLP-1s, hormones, the keto lifestyle, and mor...

Caloric Intake and Exercise - Episode 2674

23 Jul 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Episode 2674: Vinnie Tortorich and Chris Shaffer discuss a study about metabolism and the relationship between caloric intake and exercise. https://vi...

Fitness for Life - Episode 2673

21 Jul 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Episode 2673 - Vinnie Tortorich and Anna Vocino discuss recent traveling adventures and the importance of continuing fitness for life. https://vinniet...

Glucose, Glutamine, and Cancer with Dr. Thomas Seyfried - Episode 2672

18 Jul 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Episode 2672 - BEST OF: Vinnie Tortorich welcomes Dr. Thomas Seyfried and they discuss metabolic dysfunction, glucose, glutamine, and cancer therapies...

Put Up and Show Up - Episode 2671

16 Jul 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Episode 2671: Vinnie Tortorich and Chris Shaffer discuss the need to put up and show up for your goals and see them through to success, and more. http...

Exploring Fermented Foods - Episode 2670

14 Jul 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Episode 2670 - Vinnie Tortorich and Anna Vocino discuss exploring fermented foods while Anna entices us with a delicious cooking demo! https://vinniet...

Brain Health and Coconut Oil with Dr. Mary Newport - Episode 2669

11 Jul 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Episode 2669 - BEST OF: Vinnie Tortorich welcomes Dr. Mary Newport back to the show, and they discuss brain health and coconut oil, ketones, and her u...

Healthy Fats for A Healthy Mind - Episode 2668

09 Jul 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Episode 2668: Vinnie Tortorich and Chris Shaffer discuss the MIND diet and how healthy fats for a healthy mind happen with the right whole foods, and ...

Clearing Up Fitness Confusion - Episode 2667

07 Jul 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Episode 2667 - Vinnie Tortorich and Anna Vocino are clearing up fitness confusion and sharing a list of handy items from kitchen gadgets to pens. http...

BEST OF: Fruitarian Claims with Michael Arnstein - Epsiode 2666

04 Jul 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Episode 2666 - In this BEST OF show from January 2014, Anna and Vinnie chat with fan Andrew Weaver, and then discuss Fruitarian claims with Michael Ar...

Vitamins 101 - Episode 2665

02 Jul 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Episode 2665: Vinnie Tortorich and Chris Shaffer discuss an intro to Vitamins 101, and the what and whys of taking supplements. https://vinnietortoric...

Avoiding a Slippery Slope - Episode 2664

30 Jun 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Episode 2664 - Vinnie Tortorich and Anna Vocino discuss dining while on vacation, avoiding a slippery slope, and running with weighted vests. https://...

Air Quality Matters with Mike Feldstein - Episode 2663

27 Jun 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Episode 2663: Vinnie Tortorich speaks to Mike Feldstein of Jaspr air scrubbers about health, how much air quality matters, and what you can do about i...

Being Lied To and The Sugar Diet - Episode 2662

25 Jun 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Episode 2662: Vinnie Tortorich and Chris Shaffer discuss how you are being lied to about the Sugar Diet, the need for fat and protein, and more. https...

Marketing Snow Jobs - Episode 2661

23 Jun 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Episode 2661 - Vinnie Tortorich and Anna Vocino discuss cheese bites, go through a list of popular marketing snow jobs, and more. https://vinnietortor...

Consistency Makes a Difference - Episode 2660

20 Jun 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Episode 2660: Vinnie Tortorich and Chris Shaffer talk to callers about how consistency makes a difference even when life gets overwhelming, and more. ...

Promoting Mixed Messages - Episode 2659

18 Jun 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Episode 2659: Vinnie Tortorich and Chris Shaffer discuss three different topics that are all promoting mixed messages about health, and more. https://...

Fake Fat Foolishness - Episode 2658

16 Jun 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Episode 2658 - Vinnie Tortorich and Anna Vocino discuss news from Eat Happy Kitchen, another attempt at fake fat foolishness, and more. https://vinnie...

The King of Pain with Vince Sanders - Episode 2657

13 Jun 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Episode 2657: Vinnie Tortorich talks with Vince Sanders about being the king of pain by harnessing CBD into various forms for pain relief, and more. h...

Charlatans and Influencers - Episode 2656

11 Jun 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Episode 2656: Vinnie Tortorich and Chris Shaffer discuss claims made by charlatans and influencers, analyzing claims against real evidence, and more. ...

Staying In The Zone - Episode 2655

09 Jun 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Episode 2655 - Vinnie Tortorich and Anna Vocino discuss fitness, staying in Zone 2 during training, some interesting news from Eat Happy Kitchen, and ...

Ancestral Traditions with Hilda Labrada Gore - Episode 2654

06 Jun 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Episode 2654: Vinnie Tortorich talks with Hilda Labrada Gore about ancestral traditions around the world, wise traditions in health, and more. https:/...

A Different Way to Be - Episode 2653

04 Jun 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Episode 2653: Vinnie Tortorich and Chris Shaffer discuss choosing a different way to be by living a strong and healthy life, gut health, and more.. ht...

Cooking, Candy, and Coffee Talk - Episode 2652

02 Jun 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Episode 2652 - Vinnie Tortorich and Anna Vocino discuss cooking, candy, and coffee talk, while Anna cooks a lovely scallop dinner, and much more. http...

The Hurting Kind with Dr. Amy Gutman - Episode 2651

30 May 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Episode 2651: Vinnie Tortorich talks with Dr. Amy Gutman about her TED Talk, how "kind" lies are the hurting kind, her journey from being vegan, and m...

Abuse of Drugs for Weight Loss - Episode 2650

28 May 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Episode 2650: Vinnie Tortorich and Chris Shaffer discuss decades of abuse of drugs for weight loss, road trip food, football, and more. https://vinnie...

The Claims of Charlatans - Episode 2649

26 May 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Episode 2649 - Vinnie Tortorich and Anna Vocino discuss social media, bro science, the lies and claims of charlatans, and more. https://vinnietortoric...

Just Breathe with Robert Soulliere - Episode 2648

23 May 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Episode 2648: Vinnie Tortorich talks with Robert Soulliere about learning to just breathe for performance, mindfulness, your nervous system, and more....

Going Down A Bad Road - Episode 2647

21 May 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Episode 2647: Vinnie Tortorich and Chris Shaffer discuss traveling, going down a bad road with GLP-1s and muscle loss, and more. https:vinnietortorich...

Benefits of Fermented Foods - Episode 2646

19 May 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Episode 2646 - Vinnie Tortorich and Anna Vocino discuss net carb trickery, the benefits of fermented foods, making kefir, and more. https://vinnietort...

Valuing Ancestral Concepts with James Barry - Episode 2645

16 May 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Episode 2645: Vinnie Tortorich speaks to Chef James Barry about valuing ancestral concepts, stress in today's society, sharing celebrity stories, and ...

Setting Your Boundaries - Episode 2644

14 May 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Episode 2644: Vinnie Tortorich and Chris Shaffer discuss sugar and eating addiction, setting your boundaries, disordered eating, and more. https://vin...

Things Are Heating Up - Episode 2643

12 May 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Episode 2643 - Vinnie Tortorich, Anna Vocino, and Chris Shaffer discuss how things are heating up in social media, infrared saunas, and more. https://...

Vision Pushups with Dr. Bryce Appelbaum - Episode 2642

09 May 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Episode 2642: Vinnie Tortorich speaks to Dr. Bryce Appelbaum about healthy vision, screen time, doing your vision "pushups", and more. https://vinniet...

Keto Lies and Obesity - Episode 2641

07 May 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Episode 2641: Vinnie Tortorich and Chris Shaffer discuss the best time of day to exercise, keto lies and obesity, and more. https://vinnietortorich.co...

Looking for Cheats - Episode 2640

05 May 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Episode 2640 - Vinnie Tortorich and Anna Vocino discuss looking for cheats, sugar industry lies, have a special guest on for meal planning, and more. ...

Solving The Milk Problem with Mark McAfee - Episode 2639

02 May 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Episode 2639: Vinnie Tortorich speaks to dairy farmer Mark McAfee about solving "the milk problem," the benefits of raw milk, commercial milk, and mor...

Sugar Is Poison - Epiosde 2638

30 Apr 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Episode 2638: Vinnie Tortorich and Chris Shaffer discuss making a comeback, how sugar is poison, hybrid meat, screen time, and more. https://vinnietor...

People Who Exercise - Episode 2637

28 Apr 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Episode 2637 - Vinnie Tortorich and Anna Vocino discuss aging, how people who exercise benefit from it, raw milk, and more. https://vinnietortorich.co...

The Importance of Muscle with Bonnie Tsui - Episode 2636

25 Apr 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Episode 2636: Vinnie Tortorich speaks to author Bonnie Tsui about her new book on the importance of muscle, the need for physical fitness for brain he...

Free Speech and Dietary Dogma - Episode 2635

23 Apr 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Episode 2635: Vinnie Tortorich and Chris Shaffer discuss social media platforms, algorithms, free speech, dietary dogma, and more. https://vinnietorto...

Proper Hydration 101 - Episode 2634

21 Apr 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Episode 2634 - Vinnie Tortorich and Anna Vocino discuss Proper Hydration 101, including getting enough electrolytes, and more. https://vinnietortorich...

History In A Rant with Peter Pardini - Episode 2633

18 Apr 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Episode 2633: Vinnie Tortorich speaks to director and producer Peter Pardini about Peter's latest movie, which reviews recent history in a rant, and m...

Some Vitamin Basics - Episode 2632

16 Apr 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Episode 2632: Vinnie Tortorich and Chris Shaffer discuss training goals and give a rundown of some vitamin basics you should know, and more. https://v...

The Great Olive Oil Scam -Episode 2631

14 Apr 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Episode 2631 - Vinnie Tortorich and Anna Vocino discuss the great olive oil scam revealed by another podcast, other scams in the food industry, and mo...

From Plastics to Genetics with Dr. Anthony Jay - Episode 2630

11 Apr 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Episode 2630: Vinnie Tortorich speaks to Dr. Anthony Jay and they discuss items from plastics to genetics, misrepresentation in the media, and more. h...

The Eat Real Food Program - Episode 2629

09 Apr 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Episode 2629: Vinnie Tortorich and Chris Shaffer discuss making small changes, how NSNG® is the "eat real food" program, getting in more steps, and m...

A "Magic" Polypill? - Episode 2628

07 Apr 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Episode 2628 - Vinnie Tortorich and Anna Vocino chat about Anna's appearance on the Adam Carolla show, pitching to Sprouts, and a "magic" polypill. ht...

Helpful Hints for Success - Episode 2627

04 Apr 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Episode 2627: Vinnie Tortorich and Chris Shaffer speak to two callers about weight loss and sugar addiction, give helpful hints for success, and more....

Challenges and Benefits of Exercise - Episode 2626

02 Apr 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Episode 2626: Vinnie Tortorich and Chris Shaffer discuss several studies about the challenges and benefits of exercise, screen time issues, and more. ...

Answering Your Questions - Episode 2625

31 Mar 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Episode 2625- Vinnie Tortorich and Anna Vocino are answering your questions about Zone 2 training on a rowing machine, resistance band leggings, and m...

Stress for Growth with Dr. Sharon Bergquist - Episode 2624

28 Mar 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Episode 2624: Vinnie Tortorich speaks to Dr. Sharon Bergquist about resilience, our culture clashing with biology, using stress for growth, and more. ...

Weight Loss Drug Risks - Episode 2623

26 Mar 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Episode 2623: Vinnie Tortorich and Chris Shaffer discuss news items that address junk food in the SNAP program, weight loss drug risks, and more. http...

Sugar Is Sugar - Episode 2622

24 Mar 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Episode 2622 - Vinnie Tortorich and Anna Vocino discuss why sugar is sugar, what is a "bonk", what has changed in Vinnie's digital diet, and more. htt...

Culture Precedes Success with Hilary Boynton - Episode 2621

21 Mar 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Episode 2621: Vinnie Tortorich speaks to Hilary Boynton about a pilot program for school lunches, how culture precedes success, and more. https://vinn...

Battling Big Food Companies - Episode 2620

19 Mar 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Episode 2620: Vinnie Tortorich and Chris Shaffer discuss news items that address the need for battling Big Food companies, how to get moving, and more...

Adventures at Food Expo West - Episode 2619

17 Mar 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Episode 2619 - Vinnie Tortorich and Anna Vocino chat about living in Los Angeles, reducing screen time, and Anna shares her adventures at Food Expo We...

Refuting the Guidelines - Episode 2618

14 Mar 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Episode 2618: Vinnie Tortorich speaks to Drs. Laura Buchanan and Matt Calkins, who are refuting the guidelines regarding metabolic health, and more. h...

Health, Wealth, and Motivation - Episode 2617

12 Mar 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Episode 2617: In this Wednesday's episode, Vinnie Tortorich and Chris Shaffer share some knowledge about your health, wealth, and motivation, and more...

Reading Food Labels 101 - Episode 2616

10 Mar 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Episode 2616 - Vinnie Tortorich and Anna Vocino give you a lesson in Reading Food Labels 101, trickery in marketing and labeling, and more. https://vi...

Making Progress and Having Goals - Episode 2615

07 Mar 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Episode 2615: In this Call-In show, Vinnie Tortorich and Chris Shaffer speak to callers about making progress, having goals, and more. https://vinniet...

Coffee, Eggs, and Truth - Episode 2614

05 Mar 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Episode 2614: In this Wednesday's episode, Vinnie Tortorich and Chris Shaffer share some knowledge about coffee, eggs, and truth. https://vinnietortor...

Bodyweight Training 101 - Episode 2613

03 Mar 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Episode 2613 - Vinnie Tortorich and Anna Vocino give you a rundown about Bodyweight Training 101, enjoying coffee, and more. https://vinnietortorich.c...

Citizen Scientist with Dave Feldman - Episode 2612

28 Feb 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Episode 2612 - Vinnie Tortorich speaks with Dave Feldman about being a "citizen scientist," his documentary "Cholesterol Code," and more. https://vinn...

Deep Dive Into Lake Shaffer - Episode 2611

26 Feb 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Episode 2611: In this episode, Vinnie Tortorich and Chris Shaffer take a deep dive into Lake Shaffer and discuss Chris' health journey to a low-carb l...

Aerobic Equipment 101 - Episode 2610

24 Feb 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Episode 2610 - Vinnie Tortorich and Anna Vocino give you a rundown on cardio equipment with Aerobic Equipment 101 and more. https://vinnietortorich.co...

Personal Accountability - Episode 2609

21 Feb 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Episode 2609 - Vinnie Tortorich takes some caller questions and underscores the power of taking personal accountability, the effects of seed oils, and...

Ketones Fight Cancer Cells - Episode 2608

19 Feb 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Episode 2608: In this episode, Vinnie Tortorich and Chris Shaffer discuss how ketones fight cancer cells, another claim made by a GLP-1 med, and more....

Running 101 - Episode 2607

17 Feb 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Episode 2607 - Vinnie Tortorich and Anna Vocino give you a Running 101 guide to help get you started for 5Ks and beyond, and more. https://vinnietorto...

Getting Results with Angie Packer - Episode 2606

14 Feb 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Episode 2606 - Vinnie Tortorich speaks to listener Angie Packer and discusses getting results, vegan documentaries, and more. https://vinnietortorich....

Lying to Yourself - Episode 2605

12 Feb 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Episode 2605: In this episode, Vinnie Tortorich and Chris Shaffer discuss lying to yourself about your unhealthy habits, getting out and getting movin...

The Return of CICO - Episode 2604

10 Feb 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Episode 2604 - Vinnie Tortorich and Anna Vocino discuss the return of CICO, hormones and eating, yoga and pilates, and more. https://vinnietortorich.c...

Cholesterol Test Accuracy with Dr. Zoë Harcombe - Episode 2603

07 Feb 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Episode 2603—On today's show, Vinnie Tortorich speaks with Dr. Zoë Harcombe and they discuss your cholesterol test accuracy, dietary guidelines, su...

Getting Unstuck - Episode 2602

05 Feb 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Episode 2602: In this episode, Vinnie Tortorich and Chris Shaffer discuss how to get unstuck with exercise, workouts, food habits, and more. https://v...

Changes In Labeling Rules - Episode 2601

03 Feb 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Episode 2601 - Vinnie Tortorich and Anna Vocino discuss upcoming changes in labeling rules by the FDA, Quest chip products, and more. https://vinnieto...

Breaking Free from Sugar Addiction with Dr Lisa Wiedeman - Episode 2600

31 Jan 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Episode 2600—On today's show, Vinnie Tortorich speaks with optometrist Dr. Lisa Wiedemen about breaking free from sugar addiction, being a carnivore...

Alternatives to Chemical Sun Protection - Episode 2599

29 Jan 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Episode-2599 - In this episode, Vinnie Tortorich and Chris Shaffer delve into the controversial topic of sunscreen, challenging conventional wisdom ab...

Beyond Diet Culture - Episode 2598

27 Jan 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Episode 2598 - Vinnie Tortorich and Anna Vocino why NSNG® goes way beyond diet culture, why leading by example is best, weighted vests, and more. htt...

Help Me Help You - Episode 2597

24 Jan 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Episode 2597—On today's show, Vinnie Tortorich and Chris Schaffer have three call-in guests to "help me help you." They discuss stress, staying on t...

Lifestyle and Gut Health - Episode 2596

22 Jan 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Episode 2596—On today's show, Vinnie Tortorich and Chris Schaffer discuss the sodas, the Bold Fork Books Event, an NPR article about lifestyle and g...

Fitness Equipment Reality Check - Episode 2595

20 Jan 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Episode 2595 - Vinnie Tortorich and Anna Vocino explore the world of trending fitness equipment and wellness gadgets, offering candid insights into wh...

NSNG® Journies, Success and Challenges-Episode 2594

17 Jan 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Episode 259—On today's show, Vinnie Tortorich welcomes two special guests: Kelly and Charles from the NSNG®VIP GROUP. The conversation delves into ...