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Fly on the Wall with Dana Carvey and David Spade

Did Jim Downey Write that?

18 Jun 2026

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Chapter 1: What inspired Jim Downey to write 'One Battle After Another'?

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And I remembered he came in, he came in, he had seen Jaws at a theater in Times Square. And he told me that his favorite thing about it was there were guys in the audience during the scary scenes going, get him Jaws, get him. I was constantly encountering Eddie Murphy, who was a featured player, and he was just going into everyone's office and being hilarious.

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And I remember going to Gene and saying, you know, Gene, there's that Eddie Murphy guy. I mean, I don't think I'm this mad genius who's spawning something no one else can see. I think you might want to put that guy on camera. And her attitude, I remember it as being like, I think he needs a little seasoning. Writer's assistant comes up to me.

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I'm at the head of the table and whispers to me, just so you know. Chris Farley is out in the hallway, and he's completely naked. And so I told everyone, OK, Farley's going to come in, you guys. He's going to come in naked. So it's vitally important that no one give him anything. No one reacts. We just have to sort of go, oh, yeah, hey, Chris, what's up?

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Chapter 2: What was it like being officemates with Bill Murray?

78.263 - 90.706 Dana Carvey

Jim Downey, his second time with us. It's scintillating. A return visit with the one and only Jim Downey, writer extraordinaire from Saturday Night Live.

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90.726 - 109.237 David Spade

We always jump into it without saying too much because we just think everyone knows Downey, but he was our head writer while we were at SNL. He was one of the great writers from Harvard. He did, I think, the first five years of SNL and then he went and did, started Letterman. Yes. And that was the first beginnings of shaping one of the greatest shows ever.

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109.257 - 127.974 David Spade

Letterman came back to SNL and has been dabbling ever since. And I think he did a little work on Tommy Boy. I asked him about his rewrites and his movies and He's a great dude. He's a funny dude. And he is one of our good buddies. And we have a great laugh with him.

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Chapter 3: How did Eddie Murphy's first year on SNL influence the show?

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And learn a lot.

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129.837 - 140.552 Dana Carvey

Yes. Please welcome James Downey. Jim Downey. Who's better, the Rolling Stones or the Beatles? You have five seconds. Yeah.

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I love he seriously considers it.

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It's so funny. It reminds me of one time I was, uh, here we go. I was, I was late at night. I was watching Dana Casey Kasem. And it was like, it was like, uh, we're counting down the greatest bands of the rock era. Number three, the Rolling Stones. Number two,

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Chapter 4: What memorable moments does Jim share about Chris Farley?

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The Beatles. We'll be back with the greatest band of the rock era. Who remembers that? So anyway, I was just flipping around and going, wait a minute. Number three, the Rolling Stones. Number two, the Beatles.

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191.106 - 195.733 Dana Carvey

We'll be right back. What's the number one band in the history of rock and roll?

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what the fuck would be number one? And so I waited through like 12 minutes of commercials, you know? And then, and then it finally, I was like, would you please fucking get to the fucking number one? And it was like the number one. All right. Number three, the Rolling Stones. Number two, the Beatles and the greatest band of the rock era.

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Chapter 5: What are the main themes of the documentary 'Downey Wrote That'?

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Queen. And I was just like, no. Was that considered a joke? No. Well, I mean.

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230.721 - 246.587 Dana Carvey

I thought it would be like, in the number one band of the rock era, Golden Pony. They came out of Scotland. Herman and the Hermits. No, but the band that doesn't ever exist. Anyway, I love doing KCKs. What a great voice that guy had.

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Yeah. He's a great man. Did you know him?

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249.919 - 251.821 David Spade

Yeah, are you friends with him still?

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Chapter 6: How did Jim Downey contribute to the SNL writing staff?

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I saw him one time at the Emmys. His wife was, there was a greater height discrepancy between him and his wife than I've ever seen within a married couple.

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263.212 - 264.673 Dana Carvey

Who was taller or shorter?

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Two individuals. The wife was probably close to three feet taller. His wife was Webster. She was like 6'1", and he was like 5'. Well, actually, now that I think about it, She was probably only a foot taller, but still. With heels.

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281.533 - 287.725 Dana Carvey

I just won a million dollars on Polymarket that you would start the podcast with a Casey Kasem story.

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Well, congratulations.

291.682 - 299.633 David Spade

I can tell the audience Jim was my boss in case they don't recognize him from his star turn in one battle after another. I recognize him.

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Well, they may not.

Chapter 7: What challenges did Jim face while working with famous comedians?

301.215 - 305 Jim Downey

I've put on some weight since we shot.

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305.02 - 320.541 Dana Carvey

Jim Downey is an actor. You're like, you were in the chair. You're all Paul Thomas Anderson movies. I don't know. What is it? You're like an actor. You're like a really funny, good actor. I just thought of you as a writer. And now you're hogging parts.

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I am. I'm denying parts to way more deserving people and it's wrong. And all I can say is, you know, a lot of the people that we've all worked with over the years are now like directing and writing and things. And I guess it amuses them to have me around on the set or something. No, no, no.

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Chapter 8: What reflections does Jim have on his career in comedy?

345.899 - 378.328 Dana Carvey

I see the antecedents. I think that your voice work in Change Bank kind of solidified this style that you have of underplaying. Well, you underplay everything just on the edge of too much underplay, but like perfectly underplayed with nothing put in. And so that's its own charisma. Who's a famous actor that would do that? Might have been Henry Fonda. Burl Ives. I don't say too much. Burl Ives.

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378.348 - 382.138 David Spade

A lot of people say you remind them of Burl Ives.

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382.158 - 387.973 Dana Carvey

That's always a good name to come up. You're kind of like, you're like Broderick Crawford.

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388.898 - 390.32 David Spade

Do you ever get stopped in the street?

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I'm looking more and more like him all the time.

392.783 - 393.323 Dana Carvey

What do you mean?

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You look cute. Oh, well, thank you.

395.586 - 397.488 Dana Carvey

You're jolly and cute.

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Adorable. But the thing is, I mean, I think the underplaying thing is because I don't have the acting chops to overplay, you know? I do dry deadpan because that's sort of the easiest thing to do. And I think people who are capable of doing more tend to do it. You know, I'm like in, in I'm idling.

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