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Fly on the Wall with Dana Carvey and David Spade

RE-RELEASE - David Byrne

24 Jun 2026

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Chapter 1: What is the significance of David Byrne in music history?

0.031 - 5.628 Dana Carvey

Republish, get ready for the burn, as in David Byrne. Talking heads much?

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6.09 - 14.551 David Spade

Maybe you've heard of it. Maybe you've heard of them. With the big boxy coat. Of course, I ask him about that. I drill him right between the eyes.

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14.591 - 27.543 Dana Carvey

Yeah, he's he's artiste. I mean, he gets up there. His choreography and his movements are just as big as the songs. It's like it's very, very quirky, cool, laid back guy.

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27.583 - 38.273 David Spade

Just like I have to say, he's legendary. I mean, that the Talking Heads is one of those bands everyone's heard of. They might have a T-shirt with talking heads. David Byrne sort of runs the show over there.

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Chapter 2: How did David Byrne's style influence performance art?

38.725 - 51.016 David Spade

He's doing a play. I mean, he's all over the place. And he's a very influential dude. So, uh, Dane and I chatted up. I'm sure he was bored to tears with us, but who isn't?

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51.036 - 53.299 Dana Carvey

I think he was mesmerized. I don't think he blinks.

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53.359 - 55.962 David Spade

He was mesmerized by us? That's a better way to put it.

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56.243 - 67.456 Dana Carvey

Yeah. But yeah, it was really fun to talk to him. He's quite a famous enigma in some ways.

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67.476 - 68.918 David Spade

Here he is, David Byrne.

76.238 - 78.162 Dana Carvey

When David Byrne comes on the Zoom.

Chapter 3: What unique aspects does David Byrne bring to his live performances?

78.462 - 87.399 Dana Carvey

Dana, that's the guy. I'm on the Zoom. Wait a minute. I'm nearsighted. Hey, David.

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87.419 - 90.485 David Byrne

Oh, my God. I'm on the Zoom. How are you doing?

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90.986 - 93.07 Dana Carvey

We're doing incredible now that you're here.

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93.11 - 95.074 David Byrne

Nice to meet virtually.

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95.324 - 99.348 Dana Carvey

Yes. Is this your first Zoom today?

99.388 - 102.01 David Byrne

No, it's my second one today.

102.691 - 102.991 Dana Carvey

Really?

103.051 - 103.612 David Byrne

Good.

Chapter 4: How does David Byrne perceive the evolution of music videos?

103.932 - 123.61 Dana Carvey

Did you have one with Lorne Michaels earlier? You'll find David and Dana. Well, we'll try to make this interesting. Here's my first question, David. This is just to kind of be a little pithy. Has anyone ever used your last name against you in an argument? You burned me, Byrne.

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123.91 - 138.293 David Byrne

No, I don't think so. But yeah, there's been some probably plenty of articles where they did make puns, make puns like that, you know, burning down the house. But we like with my name. All right. Things like that. Yeah.

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138.313 - 141.297 Dana Carvey

Yeah. I was called Dana Carkeys in grade school.

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Chapter 5: What are David Byrne's thoughts on the intersection of art and technology?

141.357 - 151.132 Dana Carvey

It drove me nuts. Why car keys? Car V, car keys. It didn't even make sense, but it brutalized me. I'm still wounded.

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151.152 - 164.933 David Spade

It's basic bullying. David, my name is David Spade. Nice to meet you. First of all, I'm a little nervous because David has such a vast career and it's almost too much and we... It's almost like an intervention.

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165.034 - 171.923 Dana Carvey

It is almost too much. I got exhausted. He's doing too much. Too much. Well, or not enough, but you've done so much.

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Chapter 6: How does David Byrne approach the topic of mental health and creativity?

172.024 - 194.737 Dana Carvey

It's really kind of amazing. I want to ask you things you haven't been asked for, but what I observed when I was watching you in some of these videos is the way you move. So I think of you as a dancer first, and then singer, songwriter, filmmaker, and pretty much everything artistic. So was that conscious? Because it's kind of Polynesian to me. It's sort of slow, but it's very graceful.

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194.757 - 204.813 Dana Carvey

Interesting. And it's graceful, and it's inside the loop. You never are frenetic. It's very interesting to watch. Anyway, am I the first person to ask you that, or maybe the 20th?

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204.833 - 211.604 David Byrne

I have been asked. You're like, where does your dancing come from? I made a conscious... It looks like you're falling.

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213.066 - 213.266 David Spade

Uh-huh.

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Chapter 7: What insights does David Byrne offer about the music industry today?

213.426 - 214.849 David Spade

You're constantly tripping.

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214.949 - 217.874 David Byrne

That's what it looks like. There it is, yeah.

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219.271 - 226.932 David Byrne

Pretty early on, I thought to myself, I don't want to dance, move like other kind of rock and roll.

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226.953 - 228.497 Dana Carvey

Mick Jagger or James Brown.

229.199 - 233.21 David Byrne

Yeah, so I thought, oh, yeah. I mean, that's where the bar was set, kind of.

233.391 - 234.293 Dana Carvey

Yeah.

234.273 - 254.02 David Byrne

people and many others. And I just thought, well, there's no way I'm going to do that. And besides, they've kind of cornered that, but they do that and they do it really well. So I have to find something that works for me. So for a long time, I didn't do anything. And then gradually, little by little, I started kind of

Chapter 8: What does David Byrne consider as reasons to be cheerful in today's world?

254.202 - 270.721 David Byrne

figuring out moves and things that kind of felt like they were coming from me and that they emerged from the music. And they didn't feel like they seemed like anything else that I'd seen out there. They seemed a little bit odd sometimes.

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271.561 - 295.289 Dana Carvey

Well, it's charismatic because there's no overt effort, right? And it just seems to work. I was watching the Jimmy Fallon thing from your show. That's what humans do. And your little choreography with everyone and how you go up and do the chorus and you come back and you're barefoot. I don't know. It's very charismatic because it's ultimately asking us to go at you.

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295.309 - 302.078 Dana Carvey

You're not coming at us with a lot of energy. It's all just so relaxed. And you could do it till you're 90. All right. Pretty much.

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302.218 - 316.812 David Byrne

I'm hoping. And then, yeah, I tend to go for things that... don't look like I've had a lot of dance training, which I haven't had. So they're the kind of thing that I hope that other people see it and go, oh, I could do that.

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318.474 - 332.592 Dana Carvey

I could be a dancer. If this guy can do it, I can do it. Yeah, okay. I'm going to write that down. No, moving to the music. It's very charismatic. So anyway, David, do you have a question? Not you, David Byrne, but you can ask us questions, of course.

333.393 - 342.044 David Spade

Yes, I was a little nervous because he is... He's very smart, and I'm very smart, and Dana might feel weird on this podcast.

342.064 - 346.374 Dana Carvey

I feel like a third wheel. I've got two giant brains in front of me.

347.457 - 370.153 David Spade

But I've seen interviews with you, and you seem like very light on your feet, and that was my first kind of thing because I grew up... My brother is smarter than me and he's very artistic. He eventually got into design. He started that Kate Spade handbag company with his wife and he was so, you were his favorite band and so I'd hear it and I didn't quite grasp the coolness of it

370.133 - 384.93 David Spade

I just always thought it was kind of surfacy, very, I like the songs. And then the older you get and you start to get in the words and what you're doing, there's so much going on there that it makes it even more layers and layers and layers. And so that was fun.

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