AI’s doomer cult
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What is the “AI doomer cult” and why does it matter right now?
Welcome to For Tech Sake, a podcast where we earnestly believe there is a greater than 10% chance that listening to us will wipe out all of your tech misunderstandings. We are your hosts, Elaine Burke, and Kelly Early. Kelly, were you busy at the weekend?
Busy playing Steam Machine. That was basically the bulk of my uh weekend plans. I did go to an eighty-third Birthday, I think it was 83rd or 82nd, that was just squeezed in among the Exploring the Sea Machine. I was using it like as a regular PC, just like doing a bit of my writing work on it, and of course I was playing games too, which I had low expectations based on some of the reviews, but I was very, very, very pleasantly surprised. And I've only been playing And game consistently on it. So I feel like I'll have even more feedback to come back with um as I get through my catalogue. But uh so far so good. And I c I think like Yeah, a lot of the people who've complained about it weren't like the audience.
You know, like they're people with huge game and rigs already, like really complicated computers. Maybe built for in and around the same price as a steam machine, because they might not have built it now in the current Ram crisis. But for someone like me who just wants a small computer the size of a banana that I can take between my desk and the uh uh sitting room. So far it's been very fun. Curious to know what the one game was. Baldur's Gate three, which is gonna make me sound like a huge nerd. Doors. Yeah. You know what it is, don't you?
I uh I'm familiar with it, yeah, yeah. Yeah. It's kind of like medievally.
It's in the Dungeons and Dragons universe. So Yeah.
Wonderful stuff. So today, Kelly, we're gonna talk about the recent panic over AI's chances of killing us all. I'm sure you came across this in the news.
Yeah, it's It's like I think it's been said a lot, but like it annoys me so much because it's clearly a and you've said this before in the podcast, like such a market employ to be like Nobody wants to adopt this. Let's make it seem really dangerous and like it has loads of potential. And like when people talk about how dangerous it is, which we're gonna get into, all I think is like, okay, let's just turn off our computers. Walk away, touch grass. That's it. Like Sy uh Tyler the Creator had a tweet years ago that was like Bitch, how are you getting cyber bullied? Just turn the computer off and walk Which I don't agree with that with cyber bullion, but I do agree with uh with AI.
Yeah, it is it is funny in a tongue in cheek way for sure. And I do I because I wanna talk about the culture that those claims come from. And it's actually the funny thing is there's more than marketing to this now, 'cause yeah, we're gonna get into it. And I'm gonna have an attempt at explaining the alleged autonomy of these systems as well. But where this whole thing blew up was this guy, Jacob Coxon, twenty seven year old researcher, he's ex open AI, he was working at anthropic, reportedly worked on model training. And he resigned from Anthropic very publicly with a post to social media because he thinks AI is going to kill us all. What he actually wrote was neither company, talking about open AI and anthropic, is acting responsibly.
They are racing straight to self-improving superintelligence and gambling with our lives. The people building AI earnestly believe that it could kill us all by the end of the decade. Many executives and senior researchers will couch their phrasing in the press to sound sensible, but I hear the same people express fear privately. No other human activity poses this level of danger. That last line really It gets to be which I'll explain why. Um But then so Jacob leaves the company. does a lot of press based on this claim that he's made, but it's reshared by some people who continue to work. at the companies he's named OpenAI and Anthropo Anthropic. And one of them was Evan Hubinger and he reposted Jacob's announcement with the added, We really do earnestly believe AI could kill all humans.
Exclamation mark. Just short of a smiley face over here.
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Chapters
4 chapters
1
What is the “AI doomer cult” and why does it matter right now?
0:07–8:37
2
How did the Jacob Coxon resignation spark the current AI‑apocalypse panic?
8:37–29:07
3
What exactly are AI agents and how do they differ from regular chatbots?
29:07–54:54
4
How did the Hugging Face security breach reveal hidden AI‑agent communication?
54:54–1:10:20