Things Players Didn't Know About Football...
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What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
Staff salaries. I'm not talking about the manager.
Who negotiates staff salaries in football?
We're talking assistant manager, goalie coach, first team coach, scouts. Who negotiates these guys' salaries?
I was once told what my salary should have been when I was renegotiating by a manager and I told him to **** off. Say you're at Crystal Palace, right? You're the goalkeeper coach. And then all of a sudden that manager gets linked with a top six job and he's bringing you with him. Do you expect your wages to go up? I would expect it to go up and it has to go up, doesn't it? So you'd sign a three-year deal. Say after a year, the manager gets sacked. And with that, you're going as well. You've got two years left on your contract. How much of that will you actually get paid and how does it work? Normally in that situation or in my contracts, it will always... To the staff. ever talk with players about salary.
Do staff members discuss salaries with players?
They take the piss a bit, really. They do. Like some physios that I know, some masseurs that I know, run not far off minimum wage.
How did you get the England job, goalkeeping coach, when you had never worked with Roy? Very good question. And ultimately...
Hello everybody, welcome to the Fozcast. We have got a special episode today about things even footballers didn't know about football. Thankfully, we are joined by somebody that does know the answers to all these questions, aren't we, Tom? Yeah, that's not me.
How did Watto get his coaching job with Roy Hodgson?
No, it's not you. Super Dave Watson. Look, I'm so excited. I know there's going to be a little bit of pressure, but I'm... intrigued to hear the questions and then fire him with a proper answer.
What are real conversations like within a football club?
So Watto, I thought I knew it all, right? I've been in football 20 years, seen a lot of stuff, right? But then Tom started asking me a load of questions and I was like, you know what? I don't even know the answer to this. Who can we ask? And Watto, Watto is the obvious choice.
Because sometimes, Ben, things as, you know, you were a footballer for very many years and in this slick organisation, they want players to just... go about their business.
What is the role of a club captain in football?
They don't need to know details sometimes.
Footballers focus on what they need to focus on and leave everything else to the clever people. Boozing and shopping. Boozing and shopping, basically. That's the perfect scenario for a well-rounded footballer.
Right, we're going to kick us off with a... There's a real mixed bag here and there is some player ones, but there is some really good stuff in here, I think.
How do players interact with reporters?
So, first one. Staff salaries. I'm not talking about the manager. We're talking assistant manager, goalie coach, first team coach, scouts.
What is the process for designing a set piece play?
Who negotiates these guys' salaries? So a bit of context. When Xabi Alonso has gone into his meeting at Chelsea and they go, who are you bringing with you? And he goes, I'm bringing in this guy, that guy, that guy and that guy. And they go, right, well, who takes care of this then? Salaries, negotiations?
Yeah, I think when a big manager comes into a football club like Xavi Alonso and he says he wants to bring in an X, Y or Z, I think there'll be a budget for that and Xavi might have worked with these guys or not and he'll be given a guideline and work around it. I was once told what my salary should have been when I was renegotiating by a manager and I told him to fuck off.
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Really? Yes. So who were you renegotiating with? I was renegotiating with the director of football.
And you told the manager to fuck off because he was lowballing you?
Oh, for sure he was lowballing me, yeah. Why was he lowballing you? Is that because of the budget and he's trying to spend more as well or keep more for himself? No, it weren't for himself. I think he wanted another member of staff and actually he wanted me to reduce my salary so he could get somebody else in. No, he did not. Well, he didn't know obviously what my salary was and he said, you should accept that. I said, fuck off, mate. I'm on more than that now. That's unreal. I didn't know it worked like that.
These are the pressures of it. So it's director of football type, technical director.
Towards the end of my career when I had more autonomy and backed myself a little bit.
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Chapters
8 chapters
1
What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
0:05–0:08
2
Who negotiates staff salaries in football?
0:08–0:52
3
Do staff members discuss salaries with players?
0:52–1:34
4
How did Watto get his coaching job with Roy Hodgson?
1:34–1:44
5
What are real conversations like within a football club?
1:44–2:09
6
What is the role of a club captain in football?
2:09–2:29
7
How do players interact with reporters?
2:29–2:41
8
What is the process for designing a set piece play?
2:41–1:10:16
Speakers
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