The Show That Never Happened
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What unexpected event changed the live show plans?
Life is funny. I think we all know that. And it's unpredictable. But just how unpredictable? Once in a while, something happens that is so outlandish that you never even considered it possible. Nassim Taleb calls this a black swan event. In my case, I'm going to call it... Actually, I don't know what to call it yet. Maybe you can help me name it. Let me explain. Last Thursday, on February 13th, we were scheduled to do a live Freakonomics Radio show at the Wilshire E. Bell Theatre in Los Angeles. Now, a live show for us... We'll be right back.
It's not going to have the depth or the flow of a regular episode, but there is something thrilling about the live setting, the interviews that you're not really sure where they're going to go, the response from the audience that you can't predict. And, of course, any number of strange things that might happen when you try to do something that resembles show business. Coming into this L.A.
Who were the special guests for the live show?
show, we felt pretty good. We had two excellent guests lined up. Ari Emanuel, the super agent and CEO of Endeavor, who was also the model for Ari Gold from the TV show Entourage. And we had the award winning filmmaker R.J. Cutler, who got his start on the Clinton campaign documentary The War Room. and who's been making excellent documentaries ever since, including a recent one about Martha Stewart. We also had Luis Guerra, who composes and performs a lot of the music you hear on this show. He had put together a live band for the evening, which I was definitely looking forward to. I love... Luis and his music, and he has a network of musicians that is amazing. Now, I'm not going to say the mood before the show was buoyant. Exactly. Los Angeles had, of course, been hit by those terrible, fatal wildfires, and now it was cold. and raining hard. When I got to the theater around 4 p.m. for soundcheck, the wind was whipping. It felt like a monsoon outside. Plus, there are jitters always with a live show.
What challenges did the team face on the day of the show?
But we were excited, and we were excited to have a sellout crowd. The soundcheck went fine, and then I rehearsed some cues with the band. They sounded great. No problems whatsoever. I I started my final prep, which mostly consists of sitting somewhere alone, going over my notes for a show like this. I write a short monologue. In this case, it was about how L.A. and New York may look like such different places, but how they have a lot in common. They're both places where people come to invent themselves or reinvent themselves. I always think the great line from E.B. White, no one should come to New York to live unless he is willing to be lucky. And I would argue the same is very much true for Los Angeles.
So I'm going over my monologue notes, going over my notes for the Ari and RJ interviews. And then Ari arrives early. He is always early. I recently heard a story about a Zoom meeting that someone had with him that was supposed to start at 2.30 a.m. And by the time they joined at 2.30, Ari had come and gone. The meeting was over. For tonight, he had promised us 40 minutes on stage, but with a hard out, he had a plane waiting to take him to New York for the Saturday Night Live 50th anniversary celebrations. So anyway, Ari gets to the theater early. He's backstage. He is incredibly fun and interesting to talk to, a total live wire. It is true that some people are intimidated by him. He was recently voted the most feared agent in Hollywood. Big surprise. Anyway, then R.J. Cutler shows up, totally different energy from Ari, less rat-a-tat, but obviously lovely. And the two of them are getting along nicely, which is not a bad thing for me. So I'm feeling good. And then I notice something strange. The theater is quiet. By now, the doors should be open.
The audience should be settling in. And our pre-show playlist should be playing. I put this one together myself. There was some Thelonious Monk, some Arcade Fire, a piece from Handel's Messiah. Long story. And also some music specific to tonight's guests. For RJ, we're playing Young Gravy's Martha Stewart and Ocean Eyes by Billie Eilish.
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Chapters
5 chapters
1
What unexpected event changed the live show plans?
0:05–1:26
2
Who were the special guests for the live show?
1:26–2:28
3
What challenges did the team face on the day of the show?
2:28–4:44
4
How did the team try to overcome technical failures?
4:44–6:15
5
What was Ari Emanuel's reaction to the chaos backstage?
6:15–13:41
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