Best Of: Arsenio Hall / Jeff Ross
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From WHYY in Philadelphia, this is Fresh Air Weekend. I'm Tanya Mosley. Today, Arsenio Hall. He grew up in Cleveland, dreaming of being the next Johnny Carson. Kind of.
I wanted to do this show that didn't exist when I was a kid, and I knew the talent was out there. You know, I found Bruno Mars and put him on the show when he was two feet tall. I wanted those things that Johnny didn't do.
And we hear from Jeff Ross, comedian, producer, and the man behind some of the most savage celebrity roasts on television. But before all of that, he was a kid growing up in his family's kosher catering hall in New Jersey, serving weddings and bar mitzvahs, one of which was his own.
My bar mitzvah was like something between a Super Bowl halftime show and like something Saddam Hussein would throw for one of his kids.
He gets personal and vulnerable in his new Netflix comedy special, Take a Banana for the Ride. That's coming up on Fresh Air Weekend. This is Fresh Air Weekend. I'm Tanya Mosley.
That's how America was welcomed into the party that was known as the Arsenio Hall Show. His name stretched out the way his mother used to call him into the house when he was a kid growing up in Cleveland. During its run in the late 80s and early 90s, Time magazine called Arsenio hip, brash, and the new generation. And some of the most important moments in American culture happened on Arsenio's couch. Magic Johnson chose the show as the first place to speak after announcing his HIV diagnosis. When Los Angeles burned after the Rodney King verdict, executives wanted the show to go dark, but Arsenio went on anyway. And one night, a charming governor from Arkansas, running for president, showed up with a saxophone.
That appearance would go on to be credited as a turning point in the 92 presidential election, strengthening Clinton's hold on young and black voters who helped carry Clinton to the White House. I was a teenager in Detroit, staying up past my bedtime to watch, and I was not alone. At its peak, the Arsenio Hall show was syndicated on nearly 200 stations, running second in the late-night ratings to Arsenio's idol, Johnny Carson, an unthinkable feat at the time. And then just like that, poof, the show was gone.
What inspired Arsenio Hall to create his groundbreaking talk show?
But here's what I never knew until I read Arsenio's new memoir. The show wasn't canceled. Arsenio quit, walking away from a dream he'd been rehearsing since he was 12 years old. The reasons were distinctly American. White audiences thought the show was too Black, and Black audiences thought it wasn't Black enough. And it wore him down in ways he's never told fully until now. His new memoir is simply called Arsenio. And Arsenio Hall, welcome to Fresh Air.
Well, thank you very much. Wow, what an intro.
Oh, Arsenio, you know, you have talked about the decision to leave the show before, but this book, it really names things I haven't seen you name before. You say this thing that was really poignant to me. You said you felt insatiably black and profoundly alone. Take me inside of that to be 100 percent yourself and still that self be rejected. Yeah.
Yeah, you know, when I came up, I could watch a show like Johnny Carson or Merv Griffin and for weeks at a time, maybe never see a minority perform. And you know they're out there. So my dream was to one day grow up and show the other side of show business. Unfortunately... You can't get the kind of numbers doing my show like to be on a network. You know, you can't be on CBS, ABC, or replace the king when he leaves on NBC. Johnny Carson. Yes, yes. So I created this show in syndication, which did very well, and often Paramount thought it was too black because they wanted to kind of dangle a carrot in front of me and say, if you do the right show...
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Chapters
8 chapters
1
What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
0:00–3:14
2
What inspired Arsenio Hall to create his groundbreaking talk show?
3:14–5:30
3
How did Jeff Ross's upbringing influence his comedy career?
5:30–9:32
4
What significant cultural moments occurred on The Arsenio Hall Show?
9:32–10:59
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What personal challenges did Jeff Ross face in his life?
10:59–15:11
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Why did Arsenio Hall decide to end his successful show?
15:11–30:37
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What themes are explored in Jeff Ross's Netflix special, Take a Banana for the Ride?
30:37–45:18
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How did Jeff Ross's family dynamics shape his perspective on humor?
45:18–48:06
Speakers
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