Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
Alright guys, welcome back to another Full Sun Podcast. We got a legend, Chuck the Iceman Liddell on the pod today.
Chapter 2: What makes Chuck Liddell a legend in the UFC?
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We have an absolute legend, and I mean legend in the building today, Chuck the Iceman Liddell. Great to have you, bro. We've been wanting to have you on for a while. I remember watching you, I think I was in like probably 8th grade, in like the Spike TV days, when I remember those fights. That's gotta be the best era of the UFC. Would you agree?
I'm a little biased, yeah, but it was a good time. It was fun. We had a great time.
You think that was like the best...
time in a division ever like the light heavyweight division at that time well it was the biggest yeah at that time was one of the it was the premier you know division i guess but yeah there's a lot of great fights back then so You know, it is a lot bigger. Like it was, you know, it was a UFC, there's five or six a year, not, you know, 45. You know, it's a little more.
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Chapter 3: How did Chuck Liddell view the evolution of the UFC?
Was it Rampage?
I'd have to look back. I don't know.
What do you think was your most iconic fight? Iconic. In terms of like opponent, like who is like, was it Tito?
Well, Tito was fun, but I always knew from training with him. I trained with him. I used to, I was going to, I knew I was going to. You're going to whoop his ass. Whoop his ass, not fight. Now. I always, if I had to pick one, I mean, it'd be the fight with Randy, the second fight, because I avenged my loss. I finally got the title I was after, and it was right after the show.
You know, first time I broke, I had a minimum pay-per-view buys to actually hit my bonus. And that was the first time I ever hit my bonus. So I was pretty excited about that, too.
Who do you like watching in the UFC now, fighters? I like watching a lot of the guys. You go to a lot of fights in person, too. Is there anyone specifically, like maybe top three for you?
I don't know. I mean, Alex. Like Pereira? Pereira, yeah. I mean, he plays with Glover, and Glover's my guy. Until Glover retired, Glover was one of my favorites, just because we're friends. You know. I don't know. I like watching a lot of fighters. I mean, a lot of guys try to finish today. I think for a little while, guys were trying to just... Wrestle?
Well, just try to edge out a win, you know, like making sure to do a just a point fight and just trying to do enough to win. And, you know, I like it. Like, I don't care how you try to finish. I don't care if you're a ground-and-pound submission guy, striker. As long as you're trying to finish, I like to watch it, so...
Do you not like guys that will just wrestle and just try to win by points? Because I know a lot of people complain about that. Sometimes it can be fun to watch if it's a technical grappling.
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Chapter 4: What was Chuck Liddell's experience on The Ultimate Fighter?
I mean. He was fun to watch, right? I mean, beat him. I like BJ and Matty Hughes. Good friends. Friends of mine. Guys that love watching those guys fight.
Is there a dream fight for yourself? Like if there's anyone that you wish you would have fought in your day?
i mean it's it's silly i guess i i think it's silly talking about things that can't happen or yeah like why prime versus this person's prime or whatever i think i matched up well with john jones i always thought i would have uh he's i've got a longer reach than people think um because this is my reach 76 and i have about about 79 and 78 i'd be about 80 inch reach But John did that on purpose.
My trainer, he's a little, he doesn't like, he's always doing weird things with stuff like that. He didn't want people to know when I was that long. He didn't want to train for me being long. That's pretty smart. Because if you say I have an 80 inch reach, oh, you gotta be careful, he's really long.
you know i they listed me at 76. so that you know it's when you if you figure by the time you figure out that i'm a little longer than you thought i was it's a lot of times it's too late yeah it's a little too late for that yeah so based on all your fight what's the most important discipline would you say to be good at in the in mma
most important i you know i think you have to be balanced nowadays you have to be able to do everything um i i always say as a coach what i preferred if i had to pick something i'll take a an all-american wrestler i know you're tough i know you can cut weight make weight i don't have to worry about that Um, and, and wrestling is a skill that it's hard.
It's, it's, it's hard to teach that you're not going to get that the mad hours that they got to get to that good at wrestling.
And I can teach everything else. You think that's the best base?
I mean, it's, it's the hardest one. It's the hardest one to get. I don't know. If you didn't wrestle since you were a kid, since you were younger, you know, you can still be good. You can still, fighting wrestling is different. So you can still be great at it, but you're not never going to quite be the same.
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Chapter 5: What challenges did Chuck Liddell face in his coaching career?
Still, wait, wait. Man, I know I messed up. I can fix that. So I always thought I could beat someone. I think as a fighter, you should. You know, you should always think, oh, yeah, I'm going to beat that guy.
What do you think is the biggest difference between your era in the UFC and now? There's a lot of differences.
I mean, I don't know. I think the biggest difference is that when we came out, I came into the sport, right? UFC 17 was my first one. 17.
Wow. That's fucking insane.
And my first MMA mixed fight was in 97. And then I fought in UFC 98. But...
the biggest thing back then is we were trying to figure out how to train like how to mix it like everybody everybody was coming from one discipline and and learning the other two like for me i had one of the advantages i had in the beginning is i came from wrestling and striking i came from wrestling and kickboxing karate background and and so i i had two and i had to learn the third
You know, so, but we're learning how to just train. How do you spar?
How do you- You guys were inventing the sport almost.
Right. And yeah, so these are guys are getting better. You know, I mean, if you go look at leg locks back then, Most of these, the leg locks were so basic. Some of these they got away with. You couldn't get away with those nowadays. Yeah, you don't see that anymore, right? But now the guys are just so much better at leg locks. They're different. It's a different breed.
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Chapter 6: What does Chuck Liddell think about the current state of UFC fighters?
And he's like, and they're like, and you make him, you give him something that look good and you look good to him too. You make him look good. Right. Because anybody, any good DJs, If you give them some information, they'll make it funny. They'll make it cool however their audience wants to hear it. They'll take care of the other part of it.
Yeah.
You just have to give them some information that they can use because they'll just pick it out of whatever you said.
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Social media and all that's like a skill set where you can just be a fan favorite and not even be the best fighter. Right. You can build a whole career just off your social media.
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Chapter 7: How did Chuck Liddell handle weight cutting during his fights?
quiet like i mean i could you know i could i could yell instructions from you know the first first risers sit down to the ring and you hear me yeah it's like japanese love a good guard pass no but it was like with or like a good movement but it was just so quiet like you know the fan you know you know oh We're still fighting.
That's hilarious.
Yeah. We just went there recently to Japan a few months ago. I noticed that too. Like they're so polite. I think I heard one car horn the whole time. Oh, they don't honk.
I, and I, I, and I, and I was out there when I was walking around too. Like I get like, and I started taking pictures and he got a crowd. I'd be in a crowd of people, right? Like the mob, you don't think, but as soon as my buddy's back and let's go, let's go. We got to get you out of here. Like, and they start, when you start trying to go away, everyone goes, Oh, he's done? Okay.
They just leave you alone. That's very polite. Like, oh, he's not taking pictures anymore? Okay. Yeah. Very respectful. Is that where you got the tattoo?
What?
Is that where you got the tattoo? No, I didn't get it there. But the tattoo's from my original karate style. It says Koi-Kan. Nice. It's what we wear in our gis when we get our black belt. Instead of like your gym patch.
Yeah.
Switch said they have that in our gis, so...
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Chapter 8: What were some of Chuck Liddell's most memorable after-fight celebrations?
Yeah. So that got me right back in the gym, so it was good.
what do you think made you such because i mean even today you're such a fan favorite what do you think people love about you so much i don't know i you know i i think i'm just i'm just me like i go out i'm like yeah i think authenticity is big i've never i was never a character i just i i i they like to stop my style of fighting was what i like to fight with people that happen to like that um
You have the sickest shorts ever, too.
Yeah, thanks.
Those are cool. Other things, but the shorts are so dope.
Yeah, it's awesome.
Knockouts probably help, too.
Knockouts help, yeah. Well, it's the style of the fight. Here's the thing, man. I did jujitsu. I was a good wrestler, decent wrestler. But I knew I could finish. I was best at finishing on my feet. And that's kind of when I got into the sport.
I came in with two things, had to learn the ground, and I spent most of my time, I know I had a distribution, I know I did, but I wasn't good enough at them. to submit guys at that level, right? I mean, I've been doing it for, people ask me, oh yeah, I've been doing it, I've been doing jiu-jitsu for a long time.
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