September 4, 1888. There is the usual pandemonium on the ‘SS Clyde’ as it weighs anchor at 5 pm in Bombay and sets sail for England. Mohandas Gandhi leans against the rail, eyes fixed on the land as it grows more and more distant and finally disappears. He turns around and retires to his cabin, his mind home to a hundred conflicting emotions. Overcome by acute embarrassment because he cannot handle a knife and fork properly and because he isn’t as fluent in English as he’d like to be, Mohan withdraws to his cabin, eating alone there for days and not even coming out for tea. Finally, the ‘SS Clyde’ reaches Southampton on October 27, 1888. Mohandas’ stay in England would have a profound effect on his life as well as his family’s. Welcome to this conversation between Ashraf Engineer, host of the All Indians Matter podcast, and Tushar Gandhi, great grandson of the Mahatma, author and peace activist.

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