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China makes trade deal with Canada amid US tariffs

16 Jan 2026

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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?

0.031 - 43.602 Unknown

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Chapter 2: What trade deal did Canada and China announce amid US tariffs?

45.88 - 63.245 Julia McFarlane

I'm Julia McFarlane and at 16 hours GMT on Friday the 16th of January. These are our main stories. China and Canada announce a major strategic partnership. Could this be the beginning of the end of Pax Americana? We get the view from inside China.

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63.245 - 82.043 Julia McFarlane

Yksityisen kehityksen jälkeen Yhdysvallat ja Taiwan ovat saaneet rahoituksen, joka vähentää ilmastonmuutoksen tuotantoa, ja lisääntyy Taiwanin teknologian investointia Yhdysvallan kanssa. Ja Myanmar on aloittanut puolustuksen Yhdysvallan suurimmassa puolustuksessa, joka on käsitellyt, että se on käsitellyt, että se on käsitellyt, että se on käsitellyt.

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84.845 - 113.988 Amy Donnellan

Also in this podcast, people fleeing the deadly crackdown inside Iran offer a rare glimpse of the horrors suffered by those taking to the streets. There were two scientists who were noticing that type 2 diabetics were often people living with obesity. And so when they saw this weight loss, they thought, oh my gosh, we would not just be a treatment company, we would be a prevention. We hear about the history of weight loss drugs.

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116.468 - 143.89 Julia McFarlane

Donald Trump is fond of calling himself a great peacemaker, able to persuade foreign leaders to put aside their differences. A new trade deal agreed by Canada and China was not brokered by President Trump, but it may not have happened without him. Relations between Beijing and Ottawa have plummeted over the past decade. China has accused Canadian citizens of spying. Canada has accused China of election interference.

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143.89 - 165.338 Julia McFarlane

But US tariffs have forced other countries, even its neighbor and close ally Canada, to seek out new partners. Speaking in Beijing, Prime Minister Mark Carney said Canada had to adapt to a new reality. Canada can thrive in a new system, but to do so we must work at speed and scale to find new partners.

165.676 - 186.702 Julia McFarlane

The deal will see China export 49,000 electric vehicles to Canada at a preferential tariff rate. And China will reduce tariffs on Canadian agricultural products like canola seed, commonly used in cooking oil. Our correspondent in Beijing, Stephen McDonald, told us the agreement represents a major strategic shift.

186.888 - 208.977 Mark Carney

Mark Carney said that his government's relationship with China was actually more predictable than that with the US, and that the fruits of that predictability had panned out in this trip. You know, years ago it would have been unthinkable to hear a Canadian prime minister speaking like this. Thus is the nature of the meltdown that Canada has had with the Trump administration.

209.281 - 239.268 Julia McFarlane

Stephen, everything we've heard today has been very much within the narrative of mutual trade, but it seems striking that, and of course we won't have to remind listeners, that the US has made threats to Greenland, a NATO country, over what it sees as the Chinese and Russian threat in the Arctic. Are there not security concerns if Canada, its neighbor, starts getting closer with Beijing, even if only so far on a trade basis?

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Kiitos!

Chapter 3: How is the US-China relationship affecting Taiwan's tech investments?

311.122 - 337.312 Mark Carney

I think many analysts would say that Donald Trump and his government have considerably underestimated the damage that their attacks on Western allies and the like have had, and the possibility for that to really break down all of the West. And this is just a huge gift to Xi Jinping. He's been able to forge these relationships with countries, closer relationships he never would have been able to forge.

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337.312 - 352.651 Julia McFarlane

President Xi will no doubt be enjoying this. He's been treating today really as a giant storefront for China, saying he is open for business.

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353.258 - 380.275 Mark Carney

Yeah, and you can see China's messages to the world. It's like, look, we are this bastion of stability, and you compare us to the US, and people are often making this comparison. Chinese businesses are growing, and it comes to the tech sector. They're kicking all these goals, renewable energy, electric vehicles, and the comparison is with what, frankly, is seen as chaos.

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380.275 - 403.9 Mark Carney

putting tariffs on supposed allies and the like. And so, yeah, it's been brilliant for Beijing in terms of forging these new alliances. I mean, India is another good example. There's a country which should be much closer to the US than it is. Instead, what's it doing? It's getting closer to China. And again, this is all just win, win, win, win, win for the Chinese government.

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404.272 - 429.263 Julia McFarlane

Stephen McDonald puhuu minulle Beijingista.

429.263 - 454.694 Julia McFarlane

The two governments have been at odds over the production of semiconductor chips, a vital component of everything we need to power modern life, from smartphones to cars. Beijing, of course, views Taiwan not as a country in its own right, but as a breakaway province of China. And it's reiterated that it opposes any agreements that Taiwan strikes with other countries. Kerry Allen is our China media analyst.

454.694 - 481.981 Julia McFarlane

There's very, very strong messaging in Chinese state newspapers saying that Chinese officials strongly deplore the agreement with the US and Taiwan. And they're calling on Washington to revoke the deal. And newspapers like the Global Times, which are normally very, very anti-US, are saying that they feel that Taiwan's government is selling out Taiwan to court Washington. And they're saying of the US that it's putting its own interests first and has no intentions of protecting Taiwan, say if there was an invasion.

481.981 - 509.167 Julia McFarlane

That's very interesting. So is this more about just Taiwanese sovereignty? I mean, could China also be angry that the US might have an edge, a business advantage in the tech sector? I mean, China will absolutely be angry with the deal and the idea that Taiwanese firms like TSMC, major semiconductors firms, will be expanding their production capacity in the US. I mean, many analysts will see this as a strategic move in terms of the China-US artificial intelligence chip race.

Chapter 4: What are the implications of Myanmar's defense at the International Court of Justice?

509.167 - 528.573 Julia McFarlane

Mutta minun täytyy sanoa, että kun puhutaan Taiwanin voimakkaudesta, niin tämä on viestintä, jota Kiina tekee hyvin vahvasti. Se kertoo, että Taiwan on osa kiinni. Tämä on viestintä, jota Beijingin jäsenet koko ajan käsittelevät. Se kuitenkin tekee kaikenlaisia interaktioita Yhdysvaltojen ja Taiwanin jäsenen kanssa.

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528.573 - 558.509 Julia McFarlane

diplomatic meetings between these as provocative, as ways of provoking China directly. I mean, in the past what we've seen is China has sent its military out encircling Taiwan and threatening military activity whenever there's been meetings between US and Taiwanese officials. Let's zoom out a little, Kerry. I mean, when you look at Chinese social media, what does the average Chinese citizen make of President Trump and his America First policies and how they are impacting the wider world?

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558.83 - 583.349 Julia McFarlane

Luulen, että he ovat muuttuneet paljon Trumpin ensimmäisestä presidenttiin. Viime aikoina Trump oli yleensä sellainen haluaa haittaa ihminen Suomessa. Ihmiset olivat usein kutsuneet hänet platformissa, kuten Sina Weibo, joka on China's equivalent of a platform like Facebook, Comrade Trump. Ja siinä olisi ollut paljon keskustelua hänelle. Ihmiset olivat usein puhuneet siitä, miten he ajattelivat, että Trumpin poliiseja silloin olivat todennäköisesti vahvistuneet Suomeen.

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583.349 - 608.898 Julia McFarlane

Mutta vastaukset ovat todella muuttuneet viime vuosina, kun Trump on aloittanut toisen vuoden. On ollut todella huomattavaa, että yksilöllisyys on yksilöllisyys, että Yhdysvallat haluaa vahvistaa toisia maita, erityisesti pieniä valtioita. Ja sosiaalinen media käyttää Trumpia myös paljon vahvemmin. Se on hyvin kriittinen. Hän on usein kuvattu mahtajana näissä platformissa.

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608.898 - 627.747 Julia McFarlane

People will say that he's looking to bring war to the world for his own selfish aims. So there's a really different messaging now. When people read about Trump, they actually feel quite passionately angry and quite concerned about whether he might bring war close to China, much as they see him doing in regions like Iran.

627.747 - 651.49 Julia McFarlane

Kerry Allen. And for more in-depth analysis on this deal and what it means for the global economy, you can go to our Daily Explainer on YouTube. Just search there for BBC Global News Podcast. In our latest video, the BBC's economics editor Faisal Islam looks at how the global financial landscape has changed following Mr Trump's America First policies and worldwide tariffs.

651.49 - 673.462 Julia McFarlane

The government of Myanmar has begun its defense against charges of genocide at the International Court of Justice, or ICJ, the highest court in the UN. The case is being brought by The Gambia, which has accused Myanmar of violating the UN Genocide Convention during a military operation against the Rohingya people in Rakhine State back in 2017.

673.462 - 682.456 Julia McFarlane

Reid Brody is a war crimes prosecutor and member of the International Commission of Jurists, who's been following the case in The Hague. He spoke to James Menendez.

682.625 - 706.452 Reid Brody

Vuonna 2019 Gambia laittoi tämän asian kansainvälinen yhteiskunnalle, joka sanoi, että genoisaali on kaikkien valtioiden huolimattomuus. Ja että genoisaalipäätöksessä jokainen valtioneuvosto voidaan käsitellä toisen valtion liikennettä, vaikka se ei ole itse asiassa syntynyt. ICJ otti tämän teoriaan muutama vuosi sitten ja laittoi asiaa jatkuvaksi.

Chapter 5: What led to the sentencing of South Korea's former president Yoon Suk Yeol?

765.616 - 791.603 Reid Brody

Ja itse asiassa ICJ ei ole koskaan arvioinut, että valtio itse olisi vastuullinen genocidin tekeminen. Varsinkin Jugoslaviassa kokoomus sanoi, että vain jos genocidi on ainoa luonnollinen taito, voidaan löytää genocidiä. Joten kuinka kokoomus miettii tässä, miten intensiä voidaan luoda genocidiin vuosina tulevaisuudessa, kuten myös Suomessa genocidiin vastaan Israelin kanssa?

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791.603 - 797.915 Julia McFarlane

Kertoisitko meidät asioista, jotka tapahtuivat Rohingyaan? Tämä on nyt noin 10 vuotta sitten, eikö?

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798.151 - 827.902 Reid Brody

Tämä tapauksessa Rohingyaan liittyy yksi maailman suurimmilta perusteltuilijoilta. Meidän maailmassa suomalaisilta perusteltuilijoilta, jotka olivat 1982 rikolleet ja perusteltuilijoilta, jotka olivat perusteltuilijoilta, jotka olivat perusteltuilijoilta, jotka olivat perusteltuilijoilta, jotka olivat perusteltuilijoilta, jotka olivat perusteltuilijoilta, jotka olivat perusteltuilijoilta, jotka olivat perusteltuilijoilta, jotka olivat perusteltuilijoilta, jotka olivat perusteltuilijoilta, jotka olivat perusteltuilijoilta, jotka olivat perusteltuilijoilta, jotka olivat perusteltuilijoilta, jotka olivat perusteltuil

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827.902 - 848.928 Reid Brody

In 2016-2017 villages burned, mass rape, killings, which drove some 740,000 Rohingya into Bangladesh in a matter of weeks. And at the time, UN investigators concluded that there were reasonable grounds to believe that acts of genocide had been committed.

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849.13 - 861.854 Julia McFarlane

What about Myanmar's defense for its operations in western Myanmar against the Rohingya? I think they're describing it as counterterrorism. There were armed groups operating in that part of the country at that time, weren't there?

862.158 - 880.433 Reid Brody

No, silloin oli hyvin pieni syrjintä. Nyt on yksityiskohtaiset armeijat, jotka käsittelevät puolet Rakhine-ympäristöä, josta Rohingyalaiset asuivat ja joiden yli miljoonaa edelleen elää. Mutta counterterrorismi ei todellakaan vastaa legaalia kysymystä. Varsinkaan armeijan konflikissa voi tapahtua genocida.

880.433 - 905.425 Reid Brody

So the real issue is, were the Rohingya targeted because of who they were, and does the overall pattern show an intent to destroy the group? Calling it counterterrorism doesn't immunize conduct that meets the convention standards. Of course, at the heart of this case are the people involved. There are hundreds of thousands of survivors now living in camps in Bangladesh. Do you know what they're saying about these hearings, what the case means to them?

905.881 - 938.686 Reid Brody

Monet Rohingyaat tekevät pitkän menetelmän The Hagueen kanssa. He sanovat, että se on yllättävä hetki, kun heidän kokemuksensa tulee näkyviin maailmansopimuksessa. Vastaukset sanoivat minulle asioita kuten, että voimaamme on lopulta kuullut. Meillä on lopulta toivoa. International lawyer Reid Brody.

939.395 - 962.547 Julia McFarlane

Weight loss drugs and injections are never far from the headlines these days, it seems. The treatments are quickly and radically changing lives and societies around the world. But the story of how these drugs were developed is a tale in itself. Amy Donilon has written a book about it called Off the Scales, the Inside Story of a Zempik and the Race to Cure Obesity.

Chapter 6: What are the challenges facing the Rohingya people in Myanmar?

962.547 - 980.401 Amy Donnellan

She told Anna Foster, while many people know it started as a diabetes drug, they may not know just how long ago it was. A lot of people think that these drugs really just came out in the past few years and don't think too much about the development. So it really kind of goes back to the 1980s when...

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980.401 - 998.137 Amy Donnellan

There were two teams, one in Mass General in Boston and one in the University of Copenhagen, that were essentially in this sort of arms race trying to first of all find this GLP-1, which is the secret sauce in Ozempic and Manjaro and all these other drugs that people are now using for diabetes and weight loss.

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998.137 - 1019.737 Amy Donnellan

yrittäen tunnistaa, että se on olemassa, että se on yksi konsepti, ja myös tunnistaa, että se on auttanut vähentämään syötä. Ja se oli juuri tuossa alkuperäisessä, että he saivat tehdä kaikkea sitä, ja kun se meni terveydenhuollon kehitykselle, se oli silloin, kun he alkoivat nähdä väitökohtaisuutta, jota he näkivät vain ympäristöä, eikä tarkoituksia näistä drogista.

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1020.091 - 1031.313 Julia McFarlane

Mikä oli tuon progression genesis, kuten sanoit, siitä, että se oli vain diabeetilä, että he tunnevat, että se oli jotain, joka oli todella hyödyllistä tarkoittaa itseään?

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1031.65 - 1056.288 Amy Donnellan

Novo Nordisk on se yritys, joka tekee Ozempicia ja Wigovia obesity medicationia. He olivat insulinin ja diabetesin tyyppisiä. Oli kaksi tutkijaa Novo Nordiskaissa, jotka huomasivat, että obesity levels were rapidly increasing throughout the world and also that their patients, so the type 2 diabetics, were often people living with obesity.

1056.288 - 1078.951 Amy Donnellan

And so when they saw this weight loss, they thought, oh my gosh, we would not just be a treatment company, we would be a prevention. And they got very, very excited about that. But unfortunately, there was a very big stigma around obesity and the causes of it. And even the executives in Nova Nordisk, you know, really kind of thought this has nothing to do with us. This has nothing to do with pharmaceuticals.

1078.951 - 1106.795 Julia McFarlane

This is really a lifestyle thing. These are choices that people are making. They're eating too much. They're not moving enough. And what has this got to do with us? And that battle is really explored in the book and is really quite amazing. I suppose one of the great discussions now is that when people have been on them, they've lost the weight they want. It's whether it's difficult to come off, how long you can reliably be on them for. And the fact that we have tested them over a period of time will potentially at least be helpful with that decision that people are making.

1107.031 - 1133.035 Amy Donnellan

Kyllä, ja meillä on nyt hyvin tunnettu live-kysymys, jossa on Oprah Winfrey, joka puhui tänä viikonäköisesti siitä, että hän oli näissä drogissa, he todella auttivat hänet, mutta sitten hän tuli ulos niistä, ja hän laittoi 20 poundia takaisin vuoden aikana. Joten luulen, että meillä on myös dataa Oksfordin yliopistossa, jossa on paljon dataa nyt, joka tarkoittaa, että kun tulet ulos näistä drogista, se ei ole niin, että ne kääntyvät uudelleen itsesi tai uudelleen uudelleen uudelleen uudelleen.

Chapter 7: How is Morocco preparing for the Africa Cup of Nations final against Senegal?

1133.035 - 1161.031 Amy Donnellan

It's that actually you do seem to revert back to the way your body was behaving before. So a lot of people who are living with obesity talk about this food noise, which is kind of an incessant chatter in their head, telling them to eat more, eat more, eat more. And for many people that seems to switch off when they're on these drugs. And that's almost, they say, a bigger benefit than the weight loss. Amy Donnellan, author of Off the Scales, The Inside Story of a Zempik and the Race to Cure Obesity.

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1161.74 - 1184.2 Ian Williams

I feel even more proud and emotional than I really expected. You could feel it was a continental celebration. Whatever happens, I think Morocco already won. Can Morocco end 50 years of hurt in the Africa Cup of Nations this weekend?

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1194.848 - 1215.385 Unknown

Laskettelimme hiihtolomien hintoja. Ostan nyt talven tarjoushintaiset junaliput. Esimerkiksi Helsinki-Tampere alkaen 4.90 ja Oulu-Helsinki alkaen 14.90. Kampanja voimassa 18. tammikuuta asti. VR. Yhteisellä matkalla.

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1216.533 - 1245.693 Julia McFarlane

Kiitos, että katsoitte.

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1245.693 - 1270.55 Amy Donnellan

Find us wherever you get your BBC podcasts. We live in a world where the news is at our fingertips. But how often do we stop scrolling and just listen? I'm Malika Bilal and this is The Take. Al Jazeera's daily news podcast where we bring you the context and the people behind the global stories that matter. Subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts.

1272.203 - 1298.731 Tashi Bister

Available now on the documentary from the BBC World Service. When a person dies in Upper Mustang, Nepal, if they have led a good life and the stars are correctly aligned, the body is offered as food to vultures in a sacred ritual called sky burial. My name is Tashi Bister and I have come to meet the monks and morticians keeping the ceremony alive. Listen now by searching for the documentary wherever you get your BBC podcasts.

1305.059 - 1324.685 Julia McFarlane

In Iran, the communications blackout is now in its eighth day. It makes reporting and monitoring of the crackdown on anti-government protesters exceptionally difficult. But some of those caught up in the violence in recent days have now made it to the border between Iran and Iraq, where they've been speaking to our Middle East correspondent Lucy Williamson.

1329.123 - 1355.482 Julia McFarlane

At Iran's mountainous border crossing with Iraqi Kurdistan, the stern face of Iran's former supreme leader Ayatollah Khomeini peers down at the trickle of Iranians leaving the country. Just past the last Iraqi border post, there's an Iranian flag fluttering in the snow. Iran has shut down the internet and blocked phone calls into the country, but its borders are still open.

1356.882 - 1385.148 Julia McFarlane

Inside the arrivals hall, dozens of men, women and children wait for passport checks. Iranians don't need a visa to cross here, and many have relatives on the Iraqi side of the border. No one told us they were fleeing Iran because of the government crackdown, but one man showed us several bruises on his face, saying security forces had shot him with pellets during a protest in central Iran last Friday. He asked us to hide his identity.

Chapter 8: What does the future hold for US-Iran relations under Trump's policies?

1483.613 - 1501.282 Julia McFarlane

But that repressive control hides the regime's growing fear, as Iranians lose faith in its power to deliver protection from foreign attacks or prosperity at home. Lucy Williamson reporting from the Iran-Iraq border.

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1501.94 - 1518.848 Julia McFarlane

Well, the United States appears to have paused any potential military strike on Iran, at least for now. Donald Trump had suggested one might be imminent, but appeared to back off when he said that the killing in Iran had stopped and there had been no executions there.

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1518.848 - 1546.253 Julia McFarlane

Various outlets are reporting that he was persuaded not to go ahead after regional leaders warned him it could very well lead to further instability. Salman Sheikh is a Middle East expert and former advisor to Kofi Annan, and Anshul Pfeffer is The Economist's Israel correspondent. Anna Foster asked Salman Sheikh first why regional powers such as Saudi Arabia and Israel, who are no friends of Iran, appear to have stopped US military strikes on it.

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1546.372 - 1563.736 Tashi Bister

He tietävät vaikeuksia, jotka voivat poistaa maailman, mutta jolloin sitä ei pystytä rajoittamaan uudelleen. Viimeisenä Irak-invaihtoon, kun olemme keskittyneet Suomalaisen puolustusministerin kanssa Parissa,

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1564.141 - 1592.002 Julia McFarlane

He told us with a tear in his eye, they're going to break this place, and it's going to create immense harm. So I think what we have today in the emerging new world order is actually where Middle East actors, particularly Gulf actors, actually have agency. They're not spectators now, and I think they are being listened to by President Trump. Do you think their calculations would be different, Salman, if there was an obvious, focused opposition ready to go?

1592.002 - 1606.953 Mark Carney

Potentiaalisesti kyllä, mutta nyt edes presidentti Trump ja ihmiset eivät usko, että se on oikeastaan tapahtunut. Uskon, että poliisi nyt, kuten voimme kertoa, on kokoomus. Kokoomus, anna meille aikaa.

1607.307 - 1629.262 Julia McFarlane

to be able to see our negotiations possible with the current Iranian regime, which has been doing horrible things and is a transition possible in the country. Because I think most Iranians would say that this regime has lost legitimacy. But, you know, can security be established? Can a leadership emerge?

1629.616 - 1639.252 Mark Carney

What about issues of the economic conditions and having the means to be able to lift sanctions and things. And of course very real things like

1639.623 - 1668.968 Julia McFarlane

The missiles, the nuclear material, probably more than 2,000 kilograms, which is out there somewhere between, enriched between 3.67% to 60%. So these are all very serious things which have to be addressed. Yeah, various concerns. And Anshul Pfeffer, the Israeli security service, knows probably as much about Iran as the Iranians themselves, probably more about what's going on inside the country than anybody else. And they, it seemed, also agreed that now was not the moment for a US strike.

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