Pope: 'I will not debate war with Trump'
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This is the Global News Podcast from the BBC World Service. I'm Jonat Jalil and at 15 hours GMT on Monday the 13th of April, these are our main stories. Pope Leo has responded to scathing criticism from Donald Trump by saying he has no intention of debating with the US President but will continue to speak out against war. A US blockade of the Iranian coastline is coming into force as Tehran warns of retaliation. Hungary's incoming Prime Minister Peter Modzor has promised to usher in a new era for the country which he said had become the poorest and most corrupt in Europe.
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How a plushy toy designed by an eight-year-old became part of the Artemis moon mission. In what has turned into an extraordinary spat between the world's most powerful man and the first American head of the Roman Catholic Church, Pope Leo has said he has no fear of the Trump administration and plans to continue speaking out against war. This comes after Donald Trump lashed out at the Pope over his opposition to US immigration policy and the war in Iran. The US president accused the pontiff of being, quote, weak on crime and terrible for foreign policy, and uploaded an AI-generated image of himself dressed as Jesus curing the sick, before later telling reporters that he is, quote, not a big fan of the Pope.
We don't like a pope that's going to say that it's okay to have a nuclear weapon. We don't want a pope that says crime is okay in our cities. I don't like it. I'm not a big fan of Pope Leo. He's a very liberal person, and he's a man that doesn't believe in stopping crime. He's a man that doesn't think that we should be toying with a country that wants a nuclear weapon so they can blow up the world. I'm not a fan of Pope Leo.
The Pope has described Mr Trump's threat to destroy Iranian civilisation as unacceptable. Speaking en route to another mainly Muslim country, Algeria, a visit that has been described as an attempt to build bridges between the Muslim and Christian world, Pope Leo spoke about why he felt compelled to speak out.
I do not look at my role as being a political politician. I don't want to get into a debate with him.
I don't think that the message of the gospel is meant to be abused in the way that some people are doing.
And I will continue to speak out loudly against war, looking to promote peace. promoting dialogue and multilateral relationships among the states to look for just solutions to the problems.
Too many people are suffering in the world today. Too many innocent people are being killed. And I think someone has to stand up and say there's a better way to do this.
Pope Leo's visit to Algeria kicks off a 10-day tour of Africa, one of the fastest-growing regions for the Church and home to a fifth of the world's Catholics. Our global religion correspondent, Lebu Di Seco, told me more about the row that's threatening to overshadow his visit. The tensions between the Trump administration and Pope Leo have been going on for quite some time, but more recently they've centered around the war. And we saw, for example, on Palm Sunday, he was very pointed, didn't name the Trump administration or Donald Trump, but said Jesus does not listen to the prayers of those who wage war, but rejects them. He used his Easter message to urge world leaders not only to work towards peace, but actively pointed out people that prefer conflict to trying to resolve things peacefully.
So this has been coming for quite some time. And I suppose we've seen Donald Trump and his administration really kind of lean into the support of conservative Catholics.
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Chapters
6 chapters
1
What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
0:00–7:04
2
What did Pope Leo say about debating war with Trump?
7:04–8:39
3
How is the US enforcing a blockade in the Strait of Hormuz?
8:39–9:18
4
What promises did Hungary's new Prime Minister make?
9:18–11:17
5
How did a child's toy become part of NASA's Artemis mission?
11:17–12:54
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What are the implications of Pope Leo's comments on war?
12:54–30:47
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