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This is the Global News Podcast from the BBC World Service. I'm Pete Ross and in the early hours of Thursday the 30th of July, these are our main stories. President Trump says his administration is looking at ways to set controls on artificial intelligence, as further details emerge about a rogue AI bot that hacked into several companies. The South Korean tech giant Samsung has announced a huge jump in second quarter profits, driven by a surging demand for its memory chips for use in the AI sector. The communist government in Cuba has moved to open several sectors of its state-run economy to private firms amid a continuing US energy blockade. Also in this podcast... In my opinion, America has sort of lost the war.
It's lost its way. This campaign became about oil and the Strait of Hormuz. It's all about money. The people mean nothing. They're irrelevant. As fighting between Tehran and Washington continues, how do people in Iran view the war? It's the artificial intelligence nightmare which many predicted coming true. Like the supercomputer HAL 9000 in Stanley Kubrick's science fiction film 2001 A Space Odyssey, the technology recently went rogue. But the breach is worse than previously thought. The company, OpenAI, has revealed that a cyber attack two weeks ago by its chat GPT agents on Hugging Face, another AI-related company, went much further than just one firm. Such is the fear of what artificial intelligence could do that more than 1,000 people who work in the industry have signed a petition, which calls on the United States government to slow the release of the most advanced AI models.
On Wednesday, President Trump, who's previously been reluctant to impose controls on US AI companies, said he wanted to set some boundaries.
We're looking at controls. We're also making sure that we lead. So we're leading China in AI by a lot. China has virtually no controls. It's freewheeling a little bit. So we have to be careful in both ways. We don't want to restrict them where all of a sudden we come in second to China. Whoever wins with AI is going to win. That's how big it is. So it's bigger than the Internet ever was. It's bigger than anything ever was. So I don't want to restrict. I know many of these people. I don't want to restrict them from doing great work.
The boss of OpenAI, Sam Altman, who's previously lobbied for loose regulation on AI to help maintain US dominance, says this latest security breach has given him reason to reconsider that stance. He told The Venture Capitalist and podcaster Patrick O'Shaughnessy that he now accepted that AI needs controlling. This is the first security incident that I have felt very viscerally. I've been a little surprised that more people don't feel it so viscerally. So, you know, we paused training. But then there's like long-term questions about what do you do if this is like going to be the new rate of progress? Or we may have to pace the rate of AI development to give ourselves enough time for society to harden around some of these new capability levels.
So, why is Mr Altman so worried? My colleague Geeta Gurumurthy heard more from our cyber correspondent, Joe Tidy. It's a completely unprecedented incident. It is the first fully autonomous cyber attack we think in history. It all started with Hugging Face. It's like a kind of app store for AI tools and models. They came out a couple of weeks ago saying, we've been a victim of a cyber attack. We think it was the first fully autonomous attack by an agent. We don't know who it was behind it. And then that started a sort of whodunit in the cybersecurity and AI world.
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Chapters
5 chapters
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What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
0:00–11:41
2
What happened in the OpenAI ‘rogue bot’ cyber‑attack and when was it first revealed?
11:41–14:04
3
Why is President Trump proposing AI controls and how does he balance regulation with competition with China?
14:04–17:43
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How did OpenAI’s Sam Altman react and why is he now calling for AI pacing?
17:43–22:47
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What exactly did the autonomous agent do to hack Hugging Face and other services?
22:47–31:37
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