Trump defends chief of staff after tell-all interview
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The signs which could mean you're at higher risk of dementia. Susie Wiles is the first ever female White House chief of staff, and she played a key role in getting Donald Trump re-elected last year. But she has now shed some unwanted light on the inner workings of the Trump administration. Vanity Fair quotes her as saying the president has an alcoholic's personality. His vice president is a conspiracy theorist and Elon Musk is an odd duck who left her aghast with the rapid dismantling of the US Agency for International Development. Ms Wiles says the article is a hit piece and lacks context. She's been backed by the President and his team. I heard more from the BBC's Bernd Boosman in Washington. The interview was remarkably candid from a White House in particular that is quite insular in terms of at least those senior officials.
The things that caught my eye the most were a the things she said about Donald Trump as a human being. You know, she said he has an alcoholic type personality and that he has a mindset that he can do anything. essentially anything he puts his mind to, which I think is really telling into the mindset of the White House. I also was quite interested in her remarks about J.D. Vance, which, you know, to much of the American public would sound quite critical in that J.D. Vance was once a notable critic of President Trump's and now is, of course, vice president. And, you know, she said that that was almost a political conversion of which is something that many people had speculated about in the past, but no one, certainly no one from inside that Trump team had actually outright said.
She also described him as a conspiracy theorist. And then lastly, I think the comments about Elon Musk in particular, which she and the White House have pushed back on quite a bit, him You know, being an avowed ketamine user and that his dismantling of USAID that nobody thought that went well. That's very revealing and certainly not characteristic of someone like Susie Wiles, who's very rarely really in the public eye, even if she's a very, very powerful figure in the Trump White House. Yeah. Tell us how this interview happened and what Susie Wiles has said about what's been revealed. Well, the author of the interview in Vanity Fair, he's kind of considered perhaps America's foremost expert on the chief of staff position of the White House and something of a Trump insider.
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