Venezuela Special: Q&A

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Matthew Amroliwala 0:00
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Valerie Sanderson 0:38
This is a special edition of the Global News Podcast from the BBC World Service. I'm Valerie Sanderson. The world is still adjusting to the US operation to remove Venezuelan President Nicolas Maduro from power. What does it mean for the region? What does it mean for international sovereignty? And what does it say about President Trump's willingness to flex his muscles on the global stage? The BBC has been taking questions from our audience about Venezuela and the global impact of the US mission. So let's hear from my colleague, Matthew Amaralewala. He's been speaking to our South America correspondent, Ione Wells, our diplomatic correspondent, Paul Adams in Washington, and the BBC's Sumit Samaskanda, who's on the border between Venezuela and Colombia.
Matthew Amroliwala 1:28
Let's get straight to your questions and to Sumi. The first question here, a pretty obvious one. Why did this strike happen? Why did Donald Trump, the U.S., capture Venezuela's president?
Sumi Somaskanda 1:39
Yeah, that's an important question, isn't it, Matthew? And we have a couple of answers to that question. Indeed, what we've heard from President Trump, Secretary of State Marco Rubio, is that they saw Nicolás Maduro as the head of a drug trafficking organization that was directly a threat to the United States. So the United States, the Secretary of State, had said that they had designated two drug trafficking organizations, the Tren de Aragua, as well as the Cartel de los Soles, the Cartel of the Suns, as drug trafficking organizations. And because of that, they said that Nicolas Maduro, who they deemed as the head of one of those cartels, was trafficking drugs directly into the United States. That was the official justification they gave for why there was a direct threat to the United States.
Sumi Somaskanda 2:22
As a result of that, we saw strikes on what the US has said were drug trafficking boats off the coast of Venezuela, in the Pacific, in the Caribbean as well. More than 30 strikes, more than 100 people killed. After that, we also saw President Trump change the narrative a bit. He then started talking about Venezuelan oil. What he said was stolen oil and stolen land. Now, it's not entirely clear what he means by stolen land, but by stolen oil, he's talking about Venezuela's large oil reserves and the American companies that were once a big part of extracting that oil from Venezuela and processing it. When Venezuela nationalized the oil companies, a few American companies that were involved in that process lost out a lot of money.
Sumi Somaskanda 3:04
And this is what President Trump is talking about when he says those companies need to be reimbursed. And last but not least, it's important to say that the Trump administration has cracked down on migration as well, migration across the southern border.

What is the US operation to remove Nicolás Maduro about?

Sumi Somaskanda 3:16
In the last few years, Venezuelans have made up a big part of the people who have been flowing across the U.S. southern border into the United States. President Trump has claimed that those are drug traffickers, but there is not proof that the vast majority of those who have entered are drug traffickers. Regardless, they want to stop that flow as well.
Matthew Amroliwala 3:34
Sumi, we'll unpick a lot more of that, certainly oil and those other issues in a moment or two. But Ione, in terms of the strikes from Saturday, how many people were actually killed?
Ione Wells 3:44
Well, it's really hard to get reliable data on this. The government hasn't published official death tolls so far. We know that at least 32 Cubans were killed, who we know to be members of Maduro's security personnel, because Cubans traditionally made up most of his security network.

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