Why is China seeking closer UK ties?

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Valerie Sanderson 0:00
This BBC podcast is supported by ads outside the UK. This is the Global News Podcast from the BBC World Service. I'm Valerie Sanderson, and at 15.45 GMT on Thursday, the 29th of January, these are our main stories.

Why is China seeking closer ties with the UK?

Valerie Sanderson 0:55
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Valerie Sanderson 1:41
A three-day exercise in warming up the relationship between London and Beijing is underway in the Chinese capital. Britain's Prime Minister Keir Starmer and China's President Xi Jinping have been meeting, as well as business leaders from both nations. So far, a deal has been announced on a visa-free 30-day travel deal for Britain's going to China, as well as a major investment plan in China by the medical giant AstraZeneca. But while both countries hope to boost economic and cultural ties, how much space is there for the UK to raise concerns about China's human rights record?

What are the implications of the new visa-free travel agreement?

Valerie Sanderson 2:15
The most prominent case for the UK is that of the jailed British Hong Kong businessman and activist Jimmy Lai, charged under the controversial national security law that China introduced in Hong Kong in response to large pro-democracy protests. There have also been widespread human rights abuses against the Uyghur minority in China itself. Our political editor Chris Mason asked Keir Starmer how forcefully he'd raise these issues with Xi Jinping. Part of the rationale for engagement is to make sure that we can both seize the opportunities that are available, which is what we've done, but also have a mature discussion about issues that we... Were they listening on that, you think? Yes, we did have a respectful discussion about that, raised those issues, as you would expect.
Valerie Sanderson 3:02
But that, if you like, is part and parcel of the reason to engage. It is in our national interest, it gives us great opportunities, but it also gives us the opportunity to have those discussions about areas where we disagree. Jimmy Lai's son, Sebastian, had this to say.
Sebastian Lai 3:17
The phrase they use is a normalization, right? Well, what are we normalizing here? My father is still in prison in Hong Kong. He's a British citizen.

How does the UK plan to address human rights concerns with China?

Sebastian Lai 3:25
He's been arbitrarily detained. Multiple states have called for his release. This is something that we will never normalize. So whether my father is freed or not is the ultimate test. I mean, it's a very visual representation of how China views our relationship. I mean, we could give them the world, but if they're not giving anything back, this is not a relationship.
Valerie Sanderson 3:48
So in terms of what's been agreed so far, how big are those deals in the grand scheme of things? I asked our China correspondent, Laura Bicker, who's in Beijing.
Laura Bicker 3:57
There was an expectation that there would be something bigger. Now, the visit isn't over yet. There's still more to come. And it is a significant investment by AstraZeneca. And, of course, this visa-free travel is something that other European countries have had. More than 70 countries, in fact, around the world have had And Britain was an outlier, mainly because China offers these visas after a world leader arrives on their doorstep. It's almost like, look, come here and then we'll give you the visas. And I think it's kind of on the periphery. I think there are bigger issues at play, but it does seem that at least negotiations are starting. And if you speak to those who kind of do business here in China, they believe that this smooths the wheels, so to speak.
Laura Bicker 4:44
so that when they go to their Chinese counterparts, more permission is granted, more access is granted after a world leader visits and after relations come out of the deep freeze.
Valerie Sanderson 4:55
There has been criticism.

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