Samuel Goldsmith sits down with Yotam Ottolenghi at his London HQ to talk about Simple 2, the follow-up to his 2018 bestseller, and why the kitchen has become a refuge from a noisy, screen-filled world. Yotam explains how his idea of "simple" has evolved: under 10 ingredients, one pan or pot, less peeling and chopping, and unashamed use of good-quality jars and tins. Along the way he shares the confit chickpeas with olives and orange that epitomise the book, oven-baked meatballs glazed with pomegranate molasses, a rustic "one sauce" roasted tomato base, three dairy-rich rice recipes, and a study in brown sugar for dessert. He also talks about co-writing with Verena, the new Fundamentals chapter of fridge-ready flavour builders, feeding his kids, and the Ottolenghi condiment range born during lockdown. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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