S3 | E13-15 | The Debrief with Ryan Wolf and Jacob Saffle
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All right, welcome back to another episode of The Debrief covering Season 3, Finding Heidi. I'm Jacob Saffel, and we're going to continue diving into this super, super long case. I would say probably the deepest case Guild's ever had alongside our host, Ryan Wolf. Ryan, how are you, man?
Yeah, I'm great, Jacob. Great. And looking forward to diving into these episodes because, yeah, we're getting pretty deep now.
Absolutely. So today we'll be covering episodes 13, 14, and 15. And if you're re-listening with us, which I definitely encourage that you do, there are no shortages of fireworks in these episodes. So we're going to dive right in here and get into it because we've got a lot to cover. But uh before i do that don't forget you can always um follow us on youtube to see these debriefs as well as we pull up some of these especially in these these later episodes we're really going to start getting into some locations and things like that so check those out as well as in the war room for subscribers on the website the guildpodcast.com we've got an interactive map there that's always changing always adding so you can see those and really really dive into the geography of what we're talking about so
uh without anything else let's get into it so um first off we're gonna go into episode 13. this is a fun one um i have to say this is one where a video diary at that time like we have now would have been amazing right yeah absolutely so we saw ryan um dive into quite a trek uh with with ray to crosby's clearing before we really get into the trip i have to commend you man um
you're you're this is no short trek right if i'm not mistaken it's like three and a half hours or one way am i off there um yeah so this is the hike up to crosby's clearing is you would class it as uh in this sort of very difficult category i guess because there's parts that are very steep you're kind of clambering up rocks and stuff and also it's sort of the terrain is muddy very wet um you know so yeah i like it's um it's not too long i'm trying to remember how long ray and i took to do it yeah perhaps we were about three and a half hours getting up there um but for some people it may take a lot longer ray is like very experienced bushman and hunter so you know he can kind of go all day forever kind of thing um but but yeah you know i i love if you if you sort of know me and you follow me a bit like i love like hiking and tramping and that kind of thing so um
You know, I'm always up for a trip into the bush, especially, you know, going to Crosby's Clearing. It's such a huge part of this case, you know, and there is a memorial up there at the hut, the new hut that's been built next to that. So I was really keen to go see that too. But also, of course, you know, seeing the location of where the jacket was found, where the wallet was found, very exciting stuff.
Let's talk about that for a second, the location of those items. You and Ray mentioned this in the episode, the idea that it may or may not have been missed in the original search. there's kind of a lot to consider there a lot to kind of soak in um first off you saw exactly the location right and and you make it very clear in the episode that this is it's a very obvious spot so what what does your gut tell you do you feel based on what you found do you think that that is something that was actually just missed or looked over or do you think that something happened in the interim
Oh, man. You know, this is the billion-dollar question in this case, right? The jacket, the wallet, and the timeline of everything that happened here. And I think... In order to appreciate the importance of it, you need to look at it in terms of the wider context of the case. Looking back retrospectively now, we can say that prior to the discovery of the jacket and the wallet, Police had nothing up there. All they had was Mel Knopf and John Cassidy saying that they had seen this couple at Crosby's clearing. Of course, they had the items that were at the end of Tauru Creek were up road.
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Chapters
6 chapters
1
What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
0:03–10:16
2
What critical moments occur in episodes 13, 14, and 15?
10:16–18:03
3
How does the geography of Crosby's Clearing impact the investigation?
18:03–21:05
4
What items were discovered at Crosby's Clearing and their significance?
21:05–26:54
5
What theories surround the finding of the jacket and wallet?
26:54–56:43
6
How does David Turner's involvement complicate the case?
56:43–1:20:06
Speakers
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