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Chapter 1: What happened to Jessica Gaudie, Celina Bridge, and Sabrina Ann Glassop?
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This season of guilt is brought to you by Anytime Fitness Australia, home to Fitphoria, the special place that fuels confidence, connection and joy. It's why they do what they do. This is episode 26. Over six months worth of episodes on these cases. That's a lot by anyone's standards. The season of guilt has absolutely without doubt been my most challenging to date for so many reasons.
But in many ways, it has been my most personally rewarding. I've met some incredible people and been able to share some amazing emotional and heartfelt stories. And I hope I've been able to shine a spotlight on these cases and disappearances. In each season I work, there comes a time when I know it's time to pull the curtains on the official podcast episodes.
when leads become invariably slower to find, and material to create a weekly podcast becomes too difficult. There will only be two more episodes of this Season 6. Next week, we'll have Episode 27, and in the following week, I'll release an extended finale that will officially bring this season to a close.
We'll still keep pursuing leads in the background like always, but we just won't make these into podcast episodes for now. But as new information or developments come to light over time, we will revisit these cases. I'd like to say thank you to all involved. Families who have put their trust in me to tell this story and listeners who support my work week in and week out.
And finally, a huge thank you to Rich Peel and his family from Anytime Fitness Australia, whose sponsorship of this season was unwavering and crucial. Thank you. on the last episode of Guilt.
Yeah, it's down this way, yeah. That's the, you know, that's the direction.
Tony's is about three k's down there.
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Chapter 2: How did Derek Bellington Sam become involved in these cases?
There's Jeff Pearl. He used to be a builder and his father. I'm not sure whether his father's still alive.
I think he was more certain on the lorry name as opposed to the pool. I wonder if there could be another lorry and then he's just thought of pool and it's just... Because he probably dealt with a lot of people.
Oh, God, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Everybody knew Frank. They reckon he had a... You reckon he used to put his money in a 44-gallon drum.
Cool. Hey, thanks, Lloyd. See you. Oh well, there you go. The plot thickens. I better give Frank a call. Well done team, nailing these addresses. That was certainly Lloyd Poole's address but it turns out that I think Frank must have had the wrong name because Laurie Poole lived at a different address and he lived there For his entire adult life, he literally died in the hallway.
So he couldn't have lived at the address at Urbarka Road. So yeah, Frank must have the wrong lorry. I'm going to have to go back to him and see if maybe he can rack his brains and think of who it might have been. When I first met Frank some months back, he was 100% sure of the story he was telling me. But he was not 100% sure of the man's name that told him.
However, he eventually settled on the name Laurie Poole and became fairly confident that was our guy. Some research showed that indeed Laurie Poole passed away not long after Jessica's disappearance, and he also worked in insurance. So it seems that perhaps Frank is accurately remembering a Laurie Poole that he indeed knew, but that it just wasn't him that told them the story.
I need to go back to Frank to get his thoughts. Hey Frank, how are you? It's been a few months. Hello. Yeah, so we've been doing, I've been doing some hunting. So I, yesterday I managed to track down Laurie Paul's son, Lloyd. So I went and met with him and he pretty much said that his dad never lived at Urbaka Road. So he said, no, no, my dad lived on Mapleton.
And he said he lived there his whole life. He died in the hallway. So I think maybe Laurie Poole maybe wasn't the name of the person that told you the story. Because I think I remember when you first told me, you said you weren't 100% on the name.
So when did he say he lived? Because we're up near the hospital, wasn't it?
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Chapter 3: What new leads are being pursued in the investigation?
But the story around it was Tom with other people said, oh, yeah, he was kicked out of his house, you know.
So it was definitely being rented, the house, you think?
I don't know whether he was buying rent or what. He had some agreement with the owner that he could stay there until someone else was going to arrive. Okay. Okay. The other thing was that he told me about the wide load going through Nambour. Well, that was when they were doing up the electricity substation and they were carting all the big transformer cores and whatever.
And I'd say that's what that was as well. It was on the same night.
Oh, okay. On the same night they were bringing through some transformers and things. Right, okay.
Yeah, wide load escort.
So there must have been a bit of activity on that night, I guess. Yeah, but it's a tough one without a name, especially if it was just renting or if he was just being allowed to live there. We can't even check property records, really. That's not really going to help. Yeah.
Unless... Yeah, find the owner of the house, that'd be good, but he might know something about it.
Yeah, well, possibly.
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Chapter 4: What is the significance of Frank Jenkins' story?
I wonder if anyone might be home here.
Hello? Oh, hey, how are you? Sorry to barge in on you there. I'm a journalist. I'm working on an old story from back in 1999. When I approach the house, the front curtains are wide open, but I make my presence known. A man inside in his underwear shoots across the room and throws on some clothes and comes to the front door. It's hard to say exactly, but he appears to be around 40 to 50 years old.
And I'm just wondering, there was a guy, an older guy that lived here back then who told someone a story that could be important. So just sort of following up to see. Yeah. Why do you say that?
I bought the house in 1998.
Okay, interesting. Okay. And there was never any, was there a David that lived here? No. Okay. So you bought it in 1998? Yep. Yep. There was never like an old guy that, someone living under the shed here or anything?
Nope.
Interesting. All right.
What was supposed to have happened?
Well, so the story is I've got a guy that's come to me and said that there was someone living here who he spoke to who he said had witnessed something across the road, that there was a car there. He came out one night and there was a car across the road. There was a girl screaming in the back of the car and there was another guy sort of attacking this girl in the car.
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Chapter 5: How does the history of the properties relate to the case?
So if the guy that was doing the antenna wasn't his son, that could be, because he could have gone from there up back to where he lived and died. I mean, that's another possibility. You know, I mean, because he was living under the house the day I saw him, maybe he went back to his wife before he died. I mean, that's the thing.
Nah, his son was adamant his dad lived at the same house. And I said it was a drama with the family and he was not aware of anything like that.
Yeah.
Yeah, I don't know. But yeah, I mean, this guy that I just spoke to then, he seemed he was even able to pull the name at the time. He said, no, April 1998, I bought this house. And he said, definitely no one else has ever lived here. And he could be lying, but I don't know why he would. It doesn't make sense to lie.
Well, it may be to him, because maybe he sold all the stuff and he worried about it. Yeah. Yeah, there's something cheesy somewhere. It's definitely the place I took the bloomin' roller door to. And they've got a different roller door there now to what it was even when I spiked the policeman up, the original... The door that I took was still there then. And now it's got a different door.
So they've replaced the old one.
Right. I remember when we first went up that street, you were sort of a bit like, you weren't 100% sure on the house and, you know, because a few of them are newer houses that have changed.
Well, the thing that confuses me was the carport. We had the different door, you know, because the original door, there was nothing in it. It was up in the air with no cover over the door, you know. They fixed it.
Do you think it's possible that because we may have the wrong house, that could explain why the roller door's different?
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Chapter 6: What discrepancies arise regarding the timeline of events?
Could this man have simply been describing exactly what he did see, A young girl screaming in a car, being attacked, in a Zephyr, in that exact spot as described. But simply over the passage of time, 1998 became 1999. I really don't want to discredit Frank's story. He's an incredibly genuine guy, and I believe the story.
But I'm just trying to look for logical ways this can make sense at this point. And I'm running out of options. As of this moment, I'm still searching for more information that might hold the answers. But I think Frank put it best. Where we're at now, it's a bit screwy. We're missing a piece to this puzzle. We're just not sure what it is.
If this episode has felt like an infinite loop and very confusing, it's because that's what it is. That's how I've felt. Sometimes, not everything goes to plan. Leads can fall apart or become wobbly. But what is absolutely critical in any meaningful investigation is to recognize this when it happens and address it.
To ensure we don't always accept the evidence that supports the lead and at the same time, ignore the evidence that doesn't. Because if we don't, if we always accept everything at face value, I can promise you only one thing. We will never get to the truth.
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