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Episode 398: Liron Kayvan: What Fitness Trends Aren’t Telling You About Getting in Shape

Fri, 15 Nov 2024

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Are viral fitness trends actually helping you get fitter, or are they just a distraction from what really works? In this Fitness Friday episode, I am joined again by my friend, Liron, to dig into the latest social media workout crazes and why so many people overlook the basics that truly get results.  We’re covering everything from how to avoid common plateaus to the actual workouts that build lasting strength and why heavy weights and structured cardio can’t be ignored. Liron Kayvan founded BFLA in 2019. He’s a NASM Certified Group Fitness Instructor, Personal Trainer, and Transformative Life Coach. Liron has competed in Amateur MMA, Brazilian Jiu Jitsu, and Rugby and has been a Fitness Coach for over 10 years. What we discuss:   Are Viral Fitness Hacks Worth Your Time? We Fall for Crazy Fitness Trends The Only Fitness Advice You’ll Ever Need Is Food Obsession Hurting Your Fitness Goals? Why You Can’t Out-Exercise a Bad Diet Thank you to our sponsors: Therasage: Head over to therasage.com and use code Be Bold for 15% off  TruNiagen: Head over to truniagen.com and use code HUSTLE20 to get $20 off any purchase over $100. Magic Mind: Head over to www.magicmind.com/jen and use code Jen at checkout. BiOptimizers: Want to try Magnesium Breakthrough? Go to https://bioptimizers.com/jennifercohenand use promo code JC10 at checkout to save 10% off your purchase. Timeline Nutrition: Get 10% off your first order at timeline.com/cohen Air Doctor: Go to airdoctorpro.com and use promo code HUSTLE for up to $300 off and a 3-year warranty on air purifiers.  Find more from Jen: Website: https://www.jennifercohen.com/ Instagram: @therealjencohen Books: https://www.jennifercohen.com/books Speaking: https://www.jennifercohen.com/speaking-engagements Find more about Liron Kayvan:  Website: https://www.beyondfitnessla.com/  Instagram: @beyondfitnessla

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Chapter 1: What viral fitness trends are being discussed?

1.428 - 4.91 Liron Kayvan

Hi guys, it's Tony Robbins. You're listening to Habits & Hustle. Crush it!

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10.314 - 44.839 Jennifer Cohen

Hey friends, you're listening to Fitness Friday on the Habits & Hustle podcast, where myself and my friends share quick and very actionable advice for you becoming your healthiest self. So stay tuned and let me know how you leveled up. Before we dive into today's episode, I first want to thank our sponsor, Therasage. Their TriLight panel has become my favorite biohacking thing for healing my body.

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66.674 - 97.853 Jennifer Cohen

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98.214 - 126.167 Jennifer Cohen

Again, head over to therasage, T-H-E-R-A-S-A-G-E.com and use code BEBOLD for 15% off any of their products. Hello. We're here again with Fitness Friday with my friend, Liron. He does a lot of these things with me because I just like yapping and yapping with you.

126.187 - 126.927 Liron Kayvan

We're two yappers.

126.987 - 150.804 Jennifer Cohen

We're two yappers. You're a yapper and I'm a yapper. And I want to say this because I always forget. Guys, please do me a solid. If you guys can like this podcast, subscribe if you haven't subscribed, leave a review, leave some comments. It really helps the podcast. And I would really appreciate it. I always, always forget to say something. And share it. Please share the podcast.

150.904 - 157.553 Jennifer Cohen

If there's something that you heard that is interesting that you think can be helpful to someone else, please share it.

157.573 - 158.855 Liron Kayvan

Or you want to talk shit about your friend.

Chapter 2: Are these fitness trends effective?

241.521 - 249.907 Jennifer Cohen

Instead, they literally will go and like, will like go on a swing set and like just, you know, basically with your stomach and like up and down.

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249.927 - 251.268 Liron Kayvan

There's always a swing set in this.

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251.308 - 259.233 Jennifer Cohen

There's always a trampoline, a swing. And by the way, I'm a victim of this too. I have my trampolines and there's a place for all of it.

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259.253 - 260.654 Liron Kayvan

You're talking about like trendiness and stuff.

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260.814 - 280.219 Jennifer Cohen

Yeah, I'm talking about trends. Like they'll see something on TikTok or they'll see something on Instagram that looks like the new workout of the month or the day, and then they'll go and do it versus doing what's actually the most effective, which is weights, let's say. And I also think running, if they're going to do a cardio workout, I think running is really effective.

280.279 - 299.771 Jennifer Cohen

I also think inclined walking with a vest, like a weighted vest or with hand weights, the most effective to And besides those two things for cardio, obviously I love walking. Walking is like an incline walk. You know, those are to me the most effective and the most easy to do. But people are like, will do anything but the things that work.

300.157 - 301.238 Liron Kayvan

Rucking. You know what a rucking is?

301.318 - 303.34 Jennifer Cohen

Of course. Rucking is wearing a weighted vest.

303.72 - 304.601 Liron Kayvan

Or your baby like I do.

Chapter 3: What foundational workouts should you focus on?

307.263 - 307.443 Liron Kayvan

Yeah.

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307.743 - 323.636 Jennifer Cohen

So that's what I find really funny. So let's talk about these viral fitness trends. So the one that's really popular right now is this 12% incline with 3%. You're going 12% on an incline at a 3.0 speed.

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323.997 - 324.577 Liron Kayvan

Very specific.

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324.657 - 327.399 Jennifer Cohen

For 30 minutes. Okay. Because some girl on TikTok.

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327.48 - 329.041 Liron Kayvan

Bodybuilders have been doing that since the 60s.

329.281 - 334.904 Jennifer Cohen

A hundred percent. But some chick on TikTok did it. And now it's called the 12-3-3 workout.

335.424 - 336.685 Liron Kayvan

It's got a name.

336.765 - 340.346 Jennifer Cohen

Yeah. And everybody's doing it. It's like the thing to do.

340.366 - 340.967 Liron Kayvan

Fantastic.

Chapter 4: Why is heavy weightlifting important for all ages?

440.694 - 443.717 Liron Kayvan

In the long term, you should be seeing at least some gradual increase.

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444.313 - 450.436 Jennifer Cohen

But a lot of times, like for me, walking is my gateway drug to doing a more intense exercise.

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450.616 - 451.756 Liron Kayvan

So you use it as a warm-up?

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451.996 - 474.087 Jennifer Cohen

I use it more than just a warm-up. So like I'm much more of a cardio junkie than I am of a weight junkie. So for me to actually get the pump and the energy to actually do weightlifting, I have to do my cardio first because then it's like the gateway. Like I'm sweaty already. I'm already like in the workout mode. How long do you do it for? Well, let me tell you, I'm already in the workout mode.

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474.327 - 498.752 Jennifer Cohen

So then for me to go into like to weight is much more of an easy place to go versus me having to like just go right into like a heavy weighted extra like heavy weights because I will procrastinate and I will think of everything that I have to do besides that. But just starting to walk is so much easier than thinking to yourself, oh yeah, I got to go do like really heavy squats.

499.273 - 507.901 Jennifer Cohen

So if I just do some cardio, it could be like 20 minutes. It like really, really helps me go into the next thing. So did I answer your question?

508.382 - 518.228 Liron Kayvan

You said how long do you do it for? It sounds like it's kind of ritualistic for you. It's a ritual. It's now associative. It's now like, okay, your body is basically getting the message. Okay, now we're working out.

518.328 - 518.928 Jennifer Cohen

It's a habit.

519.048 - 523.27 Liron Kayvan

Leave all your other stresses and concerns at the door. It's workout time.

Chapter 5: How to avoid plateaus in your fitness routine?

544.379 - 564.027 Jennifer Cohen

So for me, my cardio and a lot of people's cardio is more for their brain health and their mental health than it is for their physical health. And like I said, it's a gateway drug for me to actually now feel energized and feel like I can like conquer the world to go and like crush those weights, which is really what I know what we should be doing as we age.

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564.327 - 580.395 Jennifer Cohen

Because as you get into middle age, that to me is fundamental. You need to do heavy weights. So no matter what the fitness trend is, no matter what your friend Molly is telling you to do, you must, must, must do heavy weights.

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580.415 - 591.02 Liron Kayvan

A lot of that I think is also social conditioning. I think it's that we think of weightlifting as a young man's game. So elderly shouldn't be doing it, which is the complete opposite of the truth. And women shouldn't be doing it.

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591.38 - 609.45 Liron Kayvan

And I think even though logically, I think we're starting to understand that that's not true, that women should be lifting weights, that older people should be lifting weights. There's so much social conditioning that I think women feel like it's not feminine. So they do the feminine thing. And those things are in our society, these silly, yeah, these silly, not to say they're silly.

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609.47 - 626.557 Liron Kayvan

I actually, again, I have a whole podcast on this, but like you should be doing fun, dynamic, novel things because your body loves that. It's play. What you're doing is you're playing and you're mixing workout with play.

626.777 - 646.124 Jennifer Cohen

I think not only are you mixing workout with play, you're also, it's great for your brain to be doing things that you wouldn't be doing regularly. It's good for your mental conditioning. So to me, that's why any movement is good movement. I don't care how kooky or wacky it is, but this is the caveat I was trying to say earlier.

646.764 - 672.642 Jennifer Cohen

But if you're trying to change your body composition and if you're trying to build lean muscle mass, you must do weights. You're not going to get that by jumping on a trampoline and doing wackadoo exercise classes that are basically you moving in weird ways or just doing whatever's trendy. It does come down to old school, foundational, fundamental shit that actually moves the needle.

673.163 - 692.708 Jennifer Cohen

I don't care what anybody says. If you want to have fun and you just want to move your body because it's great for your overall well-being, marvelous. If you want to change your body composition and you want to actually change how your genes fit, there's nothing that beats heavyweight and cardio for me anyway.

692.868 - 695.909 Liron Kayvan

Do you have an RX? Do you have a prescription to people?

Chapter 6: What is the role of cardio in mental health?

900.075 - 913.538 Jennifer Cohen

My brain is so wired to like think about food. Like when I'm eating breakfast, I swear I'm like, I can't wait for lunch. What can I have for lunch today? And then while I'm having lunch, I'm like, oh my God, like for dinner, if I have this, then I can have that. Maybe tomorrow I can eat this.

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913.799 - 931.124 Jennifer Cohen

Like it's a bad thing and a good thing because for someone like me who's so preoccupied with like fitness and all that stuff, like it's a real brain. It's like a mind fuck, right? Because I know all the stuff I want to eat. I really have to be careful.

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931.144 - 932.505 Liron Kayvan

So do you want to hear my theory on this?

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932.705 - 950.176 Jennifer Cohen

Yes, but I wanted to say one more thing. So that's where discipline is really required. And I can't rely on willpower in that way because willpower will only last me so long. And then I just like collapse and I'll eat. And I kid you not, I'll eat like nine pizzas.

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950.396 - 952.898 Liron Kayvan

So do you want to hear my theory on this?

953.138 - 953.298 Jennifer Cohen

Yes.

953.318 - 972.651 Liron Kayvan

And I've done this on the podcast too, but... My theory is that we're all like that. And that's not an individual. I think people often personalize eating problems. They think it's a personal issue. And I think to some extent, almost all of Western, particularly American society has the same problem you have.

Chapter 7: How can we change perceptions about weightlifting?

973.052 - 984.84 Liron Kayvan

And so they feel like they're obsessed with food and they're always craving things and they're going to have to fight their desires. But my theory on it, and it's been tested, this isn't just me pulling it out of the sky, is that you're not obsessed with food.

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985.22 - 1011.793 Liron Kayvan

you're not and i'm not talking about you specifically people aren't so so much that they're obsessed with food they have an unhealthy obsession it's that their body is asking for nutrients and so the cravings are actually adaptive and they're telling you i want something and the less you give it into it the longer that goes and the more sort of extreme so that's where binging comes from binging comes from this suppression this artificial suppression from the head down

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1012.273 - 1031.825 Liron Kayvan

telling the body, no, no, no, no, no, we're not having this thing X, Y, Z. And then eventually the body, because it has to, rebels and forces the brain, the person to binge because it's been suppressed for so long. So it actually makes sense. The body is saying, I don't know when I'm going to be able to have these nutrients in this pizza. You said nine pizzas, right?

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1032.525 - 1052.076 Liron Kayvan

I don't know when you're going to let me have pizza, so I'm going to stuff away nine of them. So you get this extreme swing to swing and the way to combat that, the actual solution to that problem is to find the middle ground where you actually just eat what you want and you start to eat intuitively. And I think the biggest specific nutrient that people are missing is saturated fat.

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1052.417 - 1064.742 Liron Kayvan

So the things we seem to love are the things that we're told we don't like. So we're told we're not supposed to eat. So we're told no salt, right? Maybe that was more when we were younger. Yeah.

1064.802 - 1065.502 Jennifer Cohen

Not anymore.

1065.882 - 1089.335 Liron Kayvan

But people used to say no sugar and no saturated fat. Those are the three things that people need to eat more of. They need salt. That's why I have people supplement with salt in my gym. They need sugar. That's why I tell people to eat fruit. I'm sorry, I'm flipping everyone off. This is to the people who say don't eat fat and sugar and salt. And then the last thing is saturated fat.

1089.375 - 1102.072 Liron Kayvan

What's saturated fat? Meat, eggs. If you are plant-based, then you can get it from coconut and even cocoa butter. But those rich fats that we fucking love, cheese, yeah, eggs, butter, meat.

1102.812 - 1120.607 Jennifer Cohen

Okay, I'm going to interrupt you. Okay, only because I agree with you 100%. I think that, I know you're really worried, but I'm going to throw a monkey wrench into your thing, right? I love monkey wrenches. I think intuitive eating is a really great way to be. I'm much more of a realist and I'm a very practical gal.

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