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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
So that's so fascinating, right? Like, it's so your path was is very, like, it's very unique, right? Because you were, or is it not like do most people who do what you do who are voice coaches and voice experts? Do are they usually were they usually singers prior?
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
Or how many people who become a voice pathologist go into voice coaching?
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
Right. And then you just help them. So how did you get like, I'm obsessed with Anthony Kiedis, but because I just think that he's so, he's an artist. He's an artist. Right? Yeah. How did you get into that lane of working with some of the biggest names in the world, like Shakira, Anthony Kiedis, whoever?
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
What I always, I'm curious about like even watching the Grammys, right? How do these people run around and sing at the same time? I know that's probably most of it slips, there's like a voice track behind, but for the artists who are really artists and they're going on tour for two hours, how are they able to like sing and then dance at the same time?
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
You do?
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
I remember Nicole Scherzinger was working out beside me many, many years ago, and she was running and singing at the same time to learn how to train herself.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
She runs.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
They run and sing at the same thing.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
How else do you control your voice? How else do you teach people to control their voice like that?
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
And like an Idina Mize, like who's like massive, right? So she's frozen. She's all these things. Can you tell me why you're going to, that's where you're going right now to do New York.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
How do you train a voice? How does it work? If I go to the gym and I go to train my legs, I'm going to do my squats and my lunges and do all those things. I know how to train your body. How do you train your voice? Just by practicing?
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
Okay, but if someone, because a lot of times people's voice are strained because they're, like you said, just herself, like she's doing eight shows on Broadway. Right. Or people are, like Anthony Kiedis, who's screaming and yelling for five hours while he's performing. Don't they just, if you're training them, don't they just need recovery and just to not sing and not talk?
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
But isn't he doing ah for five hours?
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
Not if you eat really badly, but okay.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
Okay, so how would you, for a regular person who's not an artist, pop star, or singer, just like a regular business person, mom, whoever, how can they optimize their voice in any way? Like, if I want to sound more serious and more authoritative... How do I train my voice to be that way? How do I train my voice? Like that video that you just said, right? Like what?
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
Her name is Amy Chapman. And this girl is, first of all, the best personality ever. But besides that, she is the, I don't even know what we call it, the biggest voice coach guru expert on the planet. And when I read off and riddle off her resume, you'll understand what I mean. Listen to this.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
Like I hired a speech therapist to fix my boring voice. Yeah. So how does someone fix their boring voice? So the sound better.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
Go ahead.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
I have a lot of people I hate listening to. I can name a hundred right now. You know, I like listening to people who have an English accent or an Australian accent.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
Right, me too. and who has a softness. I don't want a hardcore voice because I'm around it all the time. Totally. Right? What does it do to you? I don't know. I guess I never thought about it. Actually, let me change my answer. The voice I would like depends on what I'm listening to it for. So if I am looking for someone to help me with business, I'd want them to sound self-assured and confident.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
If I'm trying to chill out or relax and fall asleep, I would like a soft, soothing voice.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
Yes.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
She is a highly sought after vocal therapist, renowned singing voice specialist, and leading expert in voice optimization. With an unparalleled combination of clinical expertise and artistic experience, Amy has built a remarkable career transforming the voices of some of the world's most celebrated performers.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
Great answer. I'm going to clip that.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
I gave a lot to clip about. That was a great, that's a great. So when you want to sound more dominant or authoritative, you, your voice should go down.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
Right. You don't take them seriously.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
Yeah.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
Can you teach someone who normally talks? Like Ariana Grande, let's go back to her. Sure. If you hear her talk, she talks like a baby.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
And she has a squeaky voice. Yeah. But when she sings, she doesn't have that voice.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
I think it's done on purpose.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
It's what's your objective? Because that's a... I love that you said that because that is so true. If you want to convey like, I'm just a sweet, nice, like non-confrontational or like, you know, I don't... I'm not, I'm not a bitchy, you know, it kind of gives off this, this idea that you're just like sweet and nice and basic and dumb. Yeah.
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As a licensed and board-certified speech-language pathologist, she brings a deep scientific understanding of vocal health and physiology to her work. Listen to some of her clients, guys.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
Well, that's what I'm saying. I'm sure like even Ariana, and I think you're probably talking about Shakira, but I don't know. No, I'm not. I'm actually not. Okay. Because what I was going to say, because you said Latin, that's why I didn't. But what I was going to say is it's much more likable when people are not intimidated by you.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
So when you are talking with like authority with your voice down, people are sometimes off-put because they're more intimidated and more nervous to be around you. Especially as a woman, people will think that you're bitchy or rude or bossy. So when you act like that and it's much easier for everyone to play nicely because you're not a threat. Yeah.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
Amy's career spans a diverse range of industries, from television to touring music artist, where she's worked with some major stars like Shakira, Sia, Meghan Trainor, Idina Menzel, Anthony Kiedis, my personal favorite, And so many others. She's helped these global icons optimize their voice health, expand their range, enhance their performance, and prevent vocal strain. And I can go on and on.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
So, okay. So then when this guy hired you or a voice coach. Sure. For his voice to be less boring, what makes a voice boring versus a voice much more exciting?
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
So with this guy or for anybody whose voice is more monotone, more boring. Yeah. How do you train somebody to actually really envelop that and really do it? Like it's one thing to do it once after you or twice, but how can you really, if someone is the way they are and that's their voice most of the time, can you actually change someone's voice like forever?
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
Yeah, I wouldn't have a career if I couldn't do that.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
I know, right?
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Right, right, right.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
She's also like the lead voice coach for that show, the mask singer. I mean, there's so many things. It's unbelievable. And when I met you, how many things... I learned so much in that one conversation when I first met you that I had to have you on this show. So thanks for being here.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
It's not the words, right? It's how you say it. It's with everything in life though, right? It's like people don't get offended by what you're saying. It's how you say it. You can ask someone and trust me, I have in my life. I can ask someone anything, but if I say it in a way that's like, you know, non-confrontational, inquisitive versus judgy, I can get away with anything.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
She said, fuck you to me.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
It's all about the tone. Like I was going to ask you about TED talks, right? Because I wonder if there is something, I mean, yes, I know it's the algorithm. I got it. Totally. But what else makes it that would make somebody's TED Talk go viral versus go flat?
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
Is it, I thought, what I've kind of thought was the way the person sounds, not necessarily what, I think that the title of what it is, the way someone sounds and also how close the camera is to the person's face. That's what I've noticed. Yeah. Yeah. But how would you train someone to be the most engaging when they're talking?
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
Like how do you teach someone to be animated and alive when that's not, again, their natural personality? Is it just practice? You give them the tools and then they go off and just practice? That's the first part. The second part is what is the step-by-step way to really own a room, to really kind of take control and crush a presentation like that.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
You know what's amazing? I love that you don't feign compliments like that. Because so many times people sit here and they're like, oh, they try to feign humility, right? Like, oh... You're like, no, I am the shit. Like I've done all this stuff. I've like have a huge career. I've done it. I'm doing it. And you own it.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
And when you want to have more authority, you talk down. When you want to sound more, well, likable or flighty or kind of what's the word? Easy to like. Easy. It's easy. You kind of go up. You end with kind of like a comment, not with a question mark. Right.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
Yes, of a voice. Yeah. What other... Other ways and tips can you teach people how to tweak their voice to sound something? Give me an example.
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Yes.
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Yeah.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
That's so true. So what do moms, like when I wanted my kid to clean his room or listen to me, because God knows I repeat myself. I get so frustrated. I get so annoyed. I'm sure you do too. You got kids. Totally. So to be cognizant of not being, not just to be a yell, like just not to yell the same thing I yelled the day before, two minutes ago.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
So when you take it in, when you're more quiet or more close up, is it both? Yeah.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
You know, it's interesting right now, like just during this interview, I can see all the different ranges in your voice. Like you are a pro. You go quiet, you go loud, you go animated. You do like, it's like, it's amazing, right? How you really have made your voice like your instrument too and how to teach.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
Because when you're working with massive personalities, they need to A, trust you and listen to you and think that you know what you're talking about, right? So did you train yourself also to be that way? Yes. I became more cognizant of it.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
Yeah. What other kind of, besides like artists, like pop stars and big, you know, music people, performers, have you ever been hired by everyday other people to help them with a particular issue to help them optimize their voice?
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
I totally agree.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
I don't know why. It's also like a very like women do that, right? They always like, no, no. Like they want to be smaller than they really are. And if they're good. they have to apologize for being good. Oh, I don't apologize for being good.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
Right. So you basically, I like how you did that because you want, a lot of people are very robotic. They read a ton of these books.
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But you're not embodying what it is. It's words and it's very academic, right? It's very sterile.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
Well, I think the way like you make, especially in a leadership role, right? Tweaking it from being talking down to somebody like at, or sorry, at somebody versus as a mentor. That's a really good way of putting it. Like, so to sound more mentor-like and not such like such a robot or What would that be called that you're teaching them to do? What were those action items?
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
You're telling them to change their tone, their voice by sounding more mentor-like. What's that step? What is that step?
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No, 100%.
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Yeah, it's a whole thing actually in business. A lot of people, especially now, you need to kind of like foreplay it for like five minutes. Thousand percent. You know, how was your weekend? What did you do? And you're like, I just have to get to the point here. Totally. So, but you can't circumvent that. You can't get away with that, but not, you still, so that's not really a tone.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
It is a tone, but it's an additional five minutes that you have to add to the conversation.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
I guess that's it, right? I guess what I'm not confused is the wrong word, but can you teach somebody how to be warm when they're not naturally like that? Won't it come across fake?
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From the science of voice to simple techniques to sound more powerful, more likable or persuasive, you'll learn how you speak matters just as much as what you say. Stick around and let me know what you think after the episode. Thank you so much for having me. on NSF certification, which means every single batch is tested for heavy metals, harmful additives, and label accuracy.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
Can you email Bob, please? Right. But this is what I'm saying. What portion, this is most of it's also like teaching someone EQ, like picking up on nuance. So much so. Understanding what make people, how I talk to, like we said earlier, my tone of voice with you will be very different than my tone of voice with Karen.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
I don't know. You know, you said something, I always wonder this and I ask this a lot like to myself, right? Like what is the true difference between self-esteem and confidence, right? Do you know what the difference is? Yes.
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Because I know Karen is more sensitive and needs this and I have to handle her differently. Right. You, you, it could be straight down and dirty and you appreciate it more. Love it. Right? Love it.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
Yeah. You need to know your audience.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
Have you ever done like a real talk where you teach people how to talk? Yeah. Totally. Have you ever done a talk?
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Just so people don't know. So Danny Garcia is The Rock's ex-wife, but business partner. And she runs Seven Bucks Productions. Right. Yeah.
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She's a bodybuilder too.
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Yeah.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
You know, I think that you're right. There is such a bad connotation. Like, we're all putting it on. We all, like, you know, Chris Rock says, like, we go out, our sales reps, our representatives are the ones who are out there all, you know, when you want to have a date, when you want to, like, impress a girl, a boy, get a job. You're a sales rep. is doing the job. That's part of life.
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If you want to achieve and do things and work nicely with other people, there's going to be an element of an elevated you.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
No, it's like, you know, I go somewhere, I'm like, okay, fuck, I got to go in there. I got to pull myself together. Like if you're in a bad mood, okay, and I'm going to a meeting or whatever, I got to just pull myself together and like put it on for 20 minutes.
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Yeah.
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It's true. There's like a bunch of people who say like if you just smile, you can smile your way to being happy even when you're not happy.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
I like what you said also with the capable. Let's go back to that because you already told us a little bit about how to sound like we are in control, that we're knowledgeable earlier. But when you went into Dani's office with the women to kind of help them kind of give off that they are capable, smart women, what did you do? You were sitting there for an hour, let's say. How long was your meeting?
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Right.
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It is, right? Because every personality is so different, right? So how you work with one person is going to be different. So pull out a couple of examples of some people that were certain ways that you helped them tweak that maybe people who are listening can relate to.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
You know, I don't even know, how does someone even, I know we haven't even gotten into the voice stuff yet, but like, this is one of these topics that I talk about a lot because it's like, how do you truly teach somebody to have a sense of self-worth or self-esteem? Because you're right, confidence, you could be, you can feel confident. It's also like, it's fluid.
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1.27.
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Oh, yes.
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I know. Well, just... No, no, no.
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Or no, you said pauses are great. Pauses are so great. Yeah, I know. I'm getting like schwitzy with the light. I know. And she's also been on for an hour. See, she's been fake for about an hour. So it's like a long time.
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Listen, if you don't have an example, that's fine. You gave us a lot.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
I like to write down the three things that you're really good at. That's a great part of it. Punch the word that you want people to remember. Good. I think there's a lot of good action items. Yeah, to pull in things that you want. Is there another one? Yeah, I'm sure there is. Do you want some magic mind here? Why don't you like shake this up? By the way, we didn't even do this.
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We normally do this in the beginning of the podcast. So these help you with your focus and they're a healthy shot. They have ashwagandha and all these amazing things.
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You should have. You would have been really on. I would have really, God, I would have broken your mic. You would have been basically through the roof, but maybe this will help you get that example. You don't drink, I can imagine not. I can imagine you don't drink. This is good. You got to do it in one shot. Oh, L'chaim. L'chaim. By the way, I've had like four of these already.
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I shouldn't even have any more. Is it good? Yeah. Yeah, that's really good. People love it. I think all my guests love it. Can you think of one more sample now?
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
Okay. So I think someone who feels – this is actually a question I do have and then this could be our – Yeah. Like I work really well from a problem. Okay. Like I think a lot of people can actually be like – I'll use myself. Okay. You know, I think I'm an outgoing person sometimes. I'm an outgoing person. I'm extroverted. And I'm not shy. Like, I'll ask anybody anything all the time.
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But put me on a stage, I get really scared. Like... I guess I can perform on stage, but it's like, I'm like, I am not somebody who naturally feels super comfortable talking to like a huge group of people. I find like, so people like, and there are people out there who are the opposite, right? Usually opposite. Like they're usually very shy, but they go on stage and they shine, right? Yeah.
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You could be confident one day because you feel confident you can do one particular thing and then something happens or you don't feel confident the next day. But true self-worth, that is hard to teach somebody. Either you kind of have it or you kind of don't, in my opinion. But do you think there's ways we can help or teach that to people?
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Is there anything that, and it's not because of a confidence, not because, I can write down the three things that I'm confident about and I can know all these things that you said, right? Like animation, changing the intonation of my voice, all those things and still go up there. Is there anything else that I can take along with me for my voice to really kind of
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
kind of show my authoritative ship, my confidence, my be funny. I mean, to make myself a really good performer. I'm just trying to give you something. Yeah, of course. Because it has nothing to do with lack of self-esteem or lack of confidence. It's just like, it's like a jittery thing.
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And even if I have all those tools, I can still go up there and get nervous and scared and then not do all the things that I was told to do or practice to do.
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And the square breathing.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
That's exactly it. Taking your time. That is what it is. You get so, we got to go. We got to go fast. Like, no. Hi, everybody. That's where the breathing comes in.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
I like that. Thank you, Amy. Thank you. Now you can go to New York. That's my point. Exactly. I appreciate this. This was very, very fun and informative. And like I said, I've never done a podcast on voice before. So this is really interesting. And I hope somebody, or more than just one person, but take something, they can integrate it into their lives.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
Because I think you gave us a lot of great little action items.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
Well, guess what? The good news is you can always come back.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
I mean, with that hair. I mean, by the way, you wanted to say something about your hair, about imaging.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
Right.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
Yeah.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
I live in gym clothes. I'm like the worst person to say that to. But if you feel confident in that and you like it. I do. Because you know why I feel confident in that? Because like I'm usually wearing my gym clothes because I came from the gym. And you got a banging bod and you're happy to show that off too.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
And also I rather, I think to myself, at least I did something that was for myself that like bettered myself, that made my brain more more focused. And when you sweat, I feel better. I'd rather look like shit because I really feel better knowing that I look like shit because I did something for myself beforehand.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
Yeah.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
It is. It is. Meditating mascara. Running is my meditation. Mascara is yours. Everybody's got their own. Everybody has their own. God, thank you, Amy, for being on here. Thank you. Guys, check out Amy. What's your Instagram?
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
She's too busy for you. But anyway. We'll talk somewhere. Exactly. Thank you. This was great. Thank you. Bye. Bye. Bye.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
Oh God, neither would I. A hundred percent. It's so awkward. It's so awkward.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
So the way I agree, but I think the way I would always define it is if you want to have true self-worth, do things for yourself that make you really feel truly good about yourself. For me, it was like exercise and working out. When I took that seriously, it taught me such foundational skills about life. Like fitness for me was like a microcosm for real life, like the patience, the discipline.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
And when you start like honing in on these like foundational skills and you know, you can actually get through hard things. It gives you self-esteem. That's to me what I felt like, I'm like, I worked out, I work out all the time. So I know I have an okay body. So why am I going to like pretend that I don't think so? Like, You know what I mean? Yeah. You're like, no, I work at it. Yeah.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
I earned this. I earned this. Yeah. So I think when someone feels like they work for something and they take action to get something, that helps them with their self-esteem as well.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
Yeah, because when you were younger, were you a singer?
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
So you were like an artist who was just – I wouldn't call myself an artist.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
That's a great example of art. Let's stick to the Ariana. Because I was listening to her on a podcast. And I thought to myself kind of, she said that she writes her own music. I didn't know that she did, by the way. I thought she just had a beautiful voice and that people write her music. I don't know one way or the other. Maybe you know.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
But I think it becomes a mix of both when you're a huge star, right? But I always thought that she had a beautiful voice that made her a great singer. But you're right. I never looked at her as an artist. She didn't come across. Is there a difference between an artist, a singer, and a star? Or is a star and an artist the same thing?
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
Yeah. That's 100% true.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
And a great singer. So why? Why would she not be an artist?
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
By the way, which makes you even more likable.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
Okay, so this is very interesting because Taylor Swift, right, she writes her own music. Maybe now she does. I think she has a million people who collaborate with her, right, herself. But that was like her whole thing. She was a singer-songwriter, right? I thought if someone's a songwriter and they're a performer, that kind of makes them more of an artist. Yeah, and they are an artist.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
But I see what you're saying because the truth is when I think of like an artist, I think of someone who's more, there's more darkness there.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
Yes.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
And like nobody could – Can copy it, really, because there's only going to be one Sia.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
You are, put your stamp on it, and it's you. And you've worked with her before. And so, like, how does an artist, like, how do you work with an artist versus just a singer? Is there a difference? Yes.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
You're an artist.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
Yeah.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
Do you ever wonder why some voices captivate while others go unnoticed? On this episode of Habits & Hustle, I'm joined by top vocal therapist Amy Chapman, who's worked with stars like Shakira, Sia, and Anthony Kiedis, just to name a few. We uncover how mastering your voice can boost your confidence, enhance communication, and unlock success, both personally and professionally.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
Right. I understand that. I know we're going to get back to it, but I'm curious. We just talked about Sia. So like working with an artist like her, how do you work with her versus a singer or a star? Cool.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
So you were a singer. Tell me, so let's get back to you for a minute now. Because you were a singer, not an artist. So how did you, what was your evolution? Because given your personality, you seem to have the package. Like I heard you sing with my mom earlier. You were singing like opera.
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Episode 435: Dr. Stacy Sims: Workout Like a Woman Not a "Little Man" + How To Train Based on Hormones
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Episode 435: Dr. Stacy Sims: Workout Like a Woman Not a "Little Man" + How To Train Based on Hormones
I want you to kind of talk from your words, like what you do and why it's so important.
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Episode 435: Dr. Stacy Sims: Workout Like a Woman Not a "Little Man" + How To Train Based on Hormones
So I got so many questions. Okay. So you said, you said pull her up. Okay. So when people, women hear high intensity training, they're thinking orange theory. They're thinking Barry's bootcamp. I don't know if you know what these, I mean, New Zealand that they have Barry's bootcamp.
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Episode 435: Dr. Stacy Sims: Workout Like a Woman Not a "Little Man" + How To Train Based on Hormones
They're thinking of these classes that are, they're like taking you to the max and the, you know, or they're trying on the, on the treadmills and then they're going back and forth and you sweat like a, you know, you sweat like a fiend. I heard you say that that is not. actually high-intensity training. Why is that not considered high-intensity training?
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Episode 435: Dr. Stacy Sims: Workout Like a Woman Not a "Little Man" + How To Train Based on Hormones
And so does that, so if I were to do or not, or anybody who was perimetopause in their forties or over, and they think that they're doing themselves a service by going to Orange Theory five days a week or Barry's Bootcamp, will those classes actually make them worse off with more body fat than if they just didn't do anything or just, I don't know, just walked around the block?
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Episode 435: Dr. Stacy Sims: Workout Like a Woman Not a "Little Man" + How To Train Based on Hormones
Wow. So if I were to do like a weighted bet, like if I wore a weighted vest and went for an inclined walk on a treadmill at a low pace, would that be more beneficial than doing Orange Theory class for perimenopause?
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Episode 435: Dr. Stacy Sims: Workout Like a Woman Not a "Little Man" + How To Train Based on Hormones
I love that you said that. So, you know, it's really funny. I'm laughing and giggling because I get all these questions all the time about what do I do? Should I do this or that or this? And, you know, weighted vests have become like, again, it's like the new kale. The thing. Like everything. There's all these trends that like come and go.
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Episode 435: Dr. Stacy Sims: Workout Like a Woman Not a "Little Man" + How To Train Based on Hormones
And, you know, then all of a sudden, all the same people who are wearing these weighted vests are now complaining of their foot is hurting. Their Achilles is hurting. They can't walk. Because the weight from here is going down to your foot because it's not properly balanced. Right.
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Episode 435: Dr. Stacy Sims: Workout Like a Woman Not a "Little Man" + How To Train Based on Hormones
So, OK, so then to do that, that's a better option. OK, so then what now? So what is polarized training? Because you said that or two. You said polarized training is a big one.
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Episode 435: Dr. Stacy Sims: Workout Like a Woman Not a "Little Man" + How To Train Based on Hormones
How many times a week would you recommend someone doing this type of workout?
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Episode 435: Dr. Stacy Sims: Workout Like a Woman Not a "Little Man" + How To Train Based on Hormones
Why is jump training so popular? Not popular. Why is jump training so important?
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Episode 435: Dr. Stacy Sims: Workout Like a Woman Not a "Little Man" + How To Train Based on Hormones
What would be considered jump training, like plyo jumps, like on a box?
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Episode 435: Dr. Stacy Sims: Workout Like a Woman Not a "Little Man" + How To Train Based on Hormones
So don't laugh, but how about just jumping on a trampoline? Because you're still going up and down vertically. Right.
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Episode 435: Dr. Stacy Sims: Workout Like a Woman Not a "Little Man" + How To Train Based on Hormones
How about, you're a nutrition scientist as well. So what is your take on women and fasting in perimetopause and menopause?
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Episode 435: Dr. Stacy Sims: Workout Like a Woman Not a "Little Man" + How To Train Based on Hormones
Yeah, but again, another huge trend, as I'm sure you know, is this whole idea of fasting, fasting, fasting. And I don't understand how with hormonal issues and or just as someone who is someone who is active, how do you not eat and then also be active? If you're someone who doesn't move all day, right? Okay. And I know that, I think she was on my podcast. I think you did her podcast.
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Episode 435: Dr. Stacy Sims: Workout Like a Woman Not a "Little Man" + How To Train Based on Hormones
And she goes on about like, autophagy and how it's actually really important for women to be fasting in their 40s. And this whole idea, it's actually much healthier to do it. And we went back and forth because I can see how it is for men. I see how men respond to the fasting differently than how I've seen women respond. Yeah.
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Episode 435: Dr. Stacy Sims: Workout Like a Woman Not a "Little Man" + How To Train Based on Hormones
Right. Because, you know, I think a lot of times a woman and a man can do the same workout, eat the same food, do all the same training, and the results are very, very different. And it's frustrating. I mean, it's frustrating for me anyway, right? Yeah. So true. And, you know, a lot of times I would kind of, you know, people chalk it up to genetics or that men just have more muscle mass on them.
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Episode 435: Dr. Stacy Sims: Workout Like a Woman Not a "Little Man" + How To Train Based on Hormones
Thank you.
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Episode 435: Dr. Stacy Sims: Workout Like a Woman Not a "Little Man" + How To Train Based on Hormones
Thank you. Thank you.
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Episode 435: Dr. Stacy Sims: Workout Like a Woman Not a "Little Man" + How To Train Based on Hormones
Thank you.
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Episode 435: Dr. Stacy Sims: Workout Like a Woman Not a "Little Man" + How To Train Based on Hormones
Can you kind of go, I mean, this is what the podcast is about, but can we talk about how you see how men should train versus women and what women should be doing across the evolution of the different timelines in their life, 20, 30, 40, 50?
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Episode 435: Dr. Stacy Sims: Workout Like a Woman Not a "Little Man" + How To Train Based on Hormones
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Episode 435: Dr. Stacy Sims: Workout Like a Woman Not a "Little Man" + How To Train Based on Hormones
What do you say about that? Like, do you believe the microdosing for the inflammation and all these other longevity reasons? Is there any truth to that at all? Or is it just people just having misinformation and just jumping on the bandwagon because they're a little thinner?
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Episode 435: Dr. Stacy Sims: Workout Like a Woman Not a "Little Man" + How To Train Based on Hormones
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Episode 435: Dr. Stacy Sims: Workout Like a Woman Not a "Little Man" + How To Train Based on Hormones
You know, also when it comes to Ozempic, if someone were to compound that with strength training, would that offset the problem of bone density loss and the muscle mass? Would it actually balance itself out? Yep.
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Episode 435: Dr. Stacy Sims: Workout Like a Woman Not a "Little Man" + How To Train Based on Hormones
So, okay. And then, by the way, I just remember something else going back to the other part about training. We talked about menopause and perimetopause training. What about if you're not at that place? What type of training should someone actually do if they're in their 20s or 30s that's different than when they're 40s, 50s, 60s? We missed that part.
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Episode 435: Dr. Stacy Sims: Workout Like a Woman Not a "Little Man" + How To Train Based on Hormones
So yeah. So how do you train? Give me a day in the life of you. What's your day to day? What kind of habits do you do beyond? I mean, obviously you look great. So I want to know what time you wake up, you're sleeping. What are all your habits and routine?
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Episode 435: Dr. Stacy Sims: Workout Like a Woman Not a "Little Man" + How To Train Based on Hormones
Really? Oh, no.
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Episode 435: Dr. Stacy Sims: Workout Like a Woman Not a "Little Man" + How To Train Based on Hormones
It'll heal. How long will it take to heal, do they say?
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Episode 435: Dr. Stacy Sims: Workout Like a Woman Not a "Little Man" + How To Train Based on Hormones
Oh, my God. Doing what? Just traveling? Yeah.
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Episode 435: Dr. Stacy Sims: Workout Like a Woman Not a "Little Man" + How To Train Based on Hormones
Oh, okay. Well, then, I'm so bummed. Like, why didn't we do this in person, by the way? I don't understand why we're doing this on a computer if you were going to be coming here anyway.
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Episode 435: Dr. Stacy Sims: Workout Like a Woman Not a "Little Man" + How To Train Based on Hormones
But to finish, I want to hear your, besides the meniscus, what else happened with your habits and your routine? Okay.
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Episode 435: Dr. Stacy Sims: Workout Like a Woman Not a "Little Man" + How To Train Based on Hormones
Especially when you're active. Do you train people still regularly?
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Episode 435: Dr. Stacy Sims: Workout Like a Woman Not a "Little Man" + How To Train Based on Hormones
Right. Exactly. Can I just ask you a couple more questions and I can hopefully see you when you're here. I want you to tell me, can you tell me what you think the most underrated health tip would be and the most overrated health tip or most overrated health tip?
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Episode 435: Dr. Stacy Sims: Workout Like a Woman Not a "Little Man" + How To Train Based on Hormones
Mm-hmm.
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Episode 435: Dr. Stacy Sims: Workout Like a Woman Not a "Little Man" + How To Train Based on Hormones
So what happens if we do the cold therapy? I mean, because I hate it, you know, and I won't do it. And I get a lot of, you know, slack for that. But what does it do to the body in layman's terms? Like what does it do to a woman's body when they jump into a cold plunge? Because I think it's good for them.
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Episode 435: Dr. Stacy Sims: Workout Like a Woman Not a "Little Man" + How To Train Based on Hormones
Yeah, I know.
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Episode 435: Dr. Stacy Sims: Workout Like a Woman Not a "Little Man" + How To Train Based on Hormones
It's crazy. I mean, but do I, if I wait long enough and it gets to 165, I'm lucky. Yeah. Do you still get the same benefits as you would in a finished sauna if it's an infrared sauna?
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Episode 435: Dr. Stacy Sims: Workout Like a Woman Not a "Little Man" + How To Train Based on Hormones
No, I wish I did sweat. It doesn't get hot. These things don't get that very hot. Have you ever been in one? Like these things are like 50 degrees much cooler than the Finnish saunas.
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Episode 435: Dr. Stacy Sims: Workout Like a Woman Not a "Little Man" + How To Train Based on Hormones
I know, that's what I'm saying. It's like a cold plunge. I mean, it's like crazy. It's so not hot, but I don't know. I mean, so you believe that that's kind of all hype, the infrared sauna, because it gets maybe your skin a little bit warm.
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Episode 435: Dr. Stacy Sims: Workout Like a Woman Not a "Little Man" + How To Train Based on Hormones
Or just get a new sauna, call it a day, right?
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Episode 435: Dr. Stacy Sims: Workout Like a Woman Not a "Little Man" + How To Train Based on Hormones
I think that's a great idea. Okay. Well, I, again, Dr. Stacey Sims, you've been a delight like I knew you would be. Thank you so much. No, you have. And thank you for being on the podcast, even though I feel like it was, it wasn't the same as being in person. So I really hope we can do it in person next time.
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Episode 435: Dr. Stacy Sims: Workout Like a Woman Not a "Little Man" + How To Train Based on Hormones
I absolutely will. And everyone should go check out Dr. Stacey Stimms. What do you have? The book is called Roar, but it's a little, when was it out, your book? It was a while already.
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Episode 435: Dr. Stacy Sims: Workout Like a Woman Not a "Little Man" + How To Train Based on Hormones
Last year.
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Episode 435: Dr. Stacy Sims: Workout Like a Woman Not a "Little Man" + How To Train Based on Hormones
And I hope you feel better with your meniscus.
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Episode 435: Dr. Stacy Sims: Workout Like a Woman Not a "Little Man" + How To Train Based on Hormones
But you're not working out, correct?
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Episode 435: Dr. Stacy Sims: Workout Like a Woman Not a "Little Man" + How To Train Based on Hormones
Okay. That's good.
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Episode 435: Dr. Stacy Sims: Workout Like a Woman Not a "Little Man" + How To Train Based on Hormones
Okay, good. Well, thank you again. I appreciate you and I'll see you hopefully in a month.
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Episode 435: Dr. Stacy Sims: Workout Like a Woman Not a "Little Man" + How To Train Based on Hormones
Be awesome. Thanks. Thank you.
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Episode 435: Dr. Stacy Sims: Workout Like a Woman Not a "Little Man" + How To Train Based on Hormones
Biomechanics is a really big one, right? Because even women who have, I'll talk about that later on in life, but I saw something about how women have more ACL issues, right? And where are the other injuries and things that women are more prone to injury-wise or happen to women versus men because of our biomechanics? And then also, how should we train for our biomechanics?
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Episode 435: Dr. Stacy Sims: Workout Like a Woman Not a "Little Man" + How To Train Based on Hormones
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Episode 435: Dr. Stacy Sims: Workout Like a Woman Not a "Little Man" + How To Train Based on Hormones
I'm laughing, crying and laughing at the same time because I've had, I'm in my 40s. I had the frozen shoulder for two years almost. It's finally now dissipated. And I had the plantar fasciitis. And I didn't realize that those were two things that went with my age. I had no clue until I went down. I thought maybe I like pulled a muscle in my shoulder.
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Episode 435: Dr. Stacy Sims: Workout Like a Woman Not a "Little Man" + How To Train Based on Hormones
And the guy was like, no, you have a frozen shoulder. And I'm like, what the hell is that? Like, how does someone get that? They're like, you're old, basically, is what he said to me, right? And I never understood, like, I get the ACL because you're right. Like, we are quad dominant, right? And women tend to do those lunges and those squats. But the frozen shoulder, I didn't understand.
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Episode 435: Dr. Stacy Sims: Workout Like a Woman Not a "Little Man" + How To Train Based on Hormones
I did not understand that.
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Episode 435: Dr. Stacy Sims: Workout Like a Woman Not a "Little Man" + How To Train Based on Hormones
So what should we be doing to offset that type of injury in the frozen shoulder? What is a good exercise to focus on?
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Episode 435: Dr. Stacy Sims: Workout Like a Woman Not a "Little Man" + How To Train Based on Hormones
And what about for ACL issues to kind of strengthen? What do you think is the best way to strengthen our posterior chain?
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Episode 435: Dr. Stacy Sims: Workout Like a Woman Not a "Little Man" + How To Train Based on Hormones
Oh, that's good. Right. And so, but as we get older, we talked about, you were saying like, as you're getting into perimenopause, menopause, let's stay with that because I think my audience can appreciate that. And that's something that I feel like that's become super trendy now too. Like I don't remember, maybe because I'm at that age, I'm seeing it more or is it something that- No, it's come up.
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Episode 435: Dr. Stacy Sims: Workout Like a Woman Not a "Little Man" + How To Train Based on Hormones
Right?
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Episode 435: Dr. Stacy Sims: Workout Like a Woman Not a "Little Man" + How To Train Based on Hormones
Thank you, because I think that's a great point. Because like I said, I see it, if you scroll on social media, every second post is about menopause and or perimenopause. And I think the problem is there is so much noise and so much information, people are very confused. I know I'm confused, right? And I do this for a living.
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Episode 435: Dr. Stacy Sims: Workout Like a Woman Not a "Little Man" + How To Train Based on Hormones
And I've had like all the same top doctors come on here and talk about it. And I'm still confused because they don't even agree with each other.
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Episode 435: Dr. Stacy Sims: Workout Like a Woman Not a "Little Man" + How To Train Based on Hormones
Dr. Stacey Sims, I want you to know that I've been a fan of your work for, I just said this earlier, but for years, because I saw your TED Talk on basically how women are not these little men. And, you know, the fact that you've been out there, like you said, talking about women and how women are not like men and they shouldn't be training like men and blah, blah.
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Episode 435: Dr. Stacy Sims: Workout Like a Woman Not a "Little Man" + How To Train Based on Hormones
Right. I think there's so much confusion. So let's start with perimenopause, right? Because it's before menopause. How should women be training, eating, recovering in that space for optimal results? Yeah.
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
So give me the first couple things. Absolutely. How does someone become unforgettable?
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
So let's say someone comes to you or they're listening to you and they have no idea where to pull that from. Yeah, absolutely.
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
But like, I don't even know the euphemism to describe what you talk about because I can go through and I don't ever do this. But the reason why I even like was so like adamant to get Lisa on this show.
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
Like, how can I not be? It's because whenever I saw like randomly one time I was on YouTube and something that you did showed up just randomly and it was so powerful and so good. It was this clip that you were talking about, like someone's perception of you. Ain't none of your business. Is none of your business. And that I was like, wow.
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
But a lot of people that you see, they're not able to do that right away, I would imagine, right? There's a lot of blockages, right? Because of, like we should go back one, right? Because of self-doubt, because of the fear, because of all of these things. So like... That's a great way to kind of tell people to start. Like, that's an action-oriented thing. Baby step. It's a big baby step.
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
Is that also how people can start overcoming their self-doubt and beginning to feel confident? I guess, could they start feeling confident in that way? Yeah.
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
Well, you said something that's interesting because when I was watching your stuff, and even you said it now when you were talking about the seven things that you say to yourself, like why did I, you know, so you forgive yourself for this and you forgive yourself for that. Because you said that you were in like this abusive relationship, right?
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
And the way it's not even what you said, it's how you said it was so powerful.
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
Which is an interesting thing to say because I saw this video once that you did about your father taking you on your first date. Oh, yeah. It was a great video, by the way. Again, this is the power of you, Lisa, because everything that you do, maybe it's just, I can't imagine, it's not obviously just me, it's everybody, but it lands so hard.
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
Like, he took you on your first date to show you, well, you tell the story, you're way better than I am.
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
This is why I felt like this was really powerful is because you said that, and I'm paraphrasing, but your dad took you when you're 12 or 10 years old or 11 years old on a dinner date. To the marina. To the Marina del Rey, yep. And he said to you afterwards something like, you know, you had a beautiful dinner, he treated you nicely, he was beautiful, napkin, whatever, napkin.
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
Opened the car door, was very chivalrous, was very gentleman-like. And he said, now, Lisa, this is how you should be. This is now that you've had your first date. This is how you should be treated. And then it goes, he said, this is how you get to be treated.
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
The conviction is. The tone, the body language, everything about your speaking just like hooked me. And I went down that rabbit hole about you. And I'm like, oh my God, I need to meet this woman because she is like literally the real deal. Because in a world, and you know this. I do. Most people are not the real deal. There's zero authenticity in a world that's supposed to be authentic right now.
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
You've got to watch the clip because I butchered it. I'm so sorry.
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
Well, this is what, can you keep on making these references that you did grow up really nicely? You had, you know, you maybe didn't grow up in a wonderful area and you were on food stamps. However, you had a nice family.
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
A great dad, a great mom. Yeah. And so you don't have the typical foundation to fumble into that. Right. And then your dad even showed you how you should be treated. And then how did you allow yourself to become someone who was in this terrible relationship?
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
They market well. It's all marketing. They market well. But there's like no substance and there's no depth at all. Yeah. So, which is why I'm so happy you're on the show.
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
That's great. Because, you know, I think hope is so important, right? And so many people, if they don't have hope, then that's when they really are lost. How did you maintain hope or how do you tell people to hold on and have hope? Because I think a lot of people, when they feel hopeless, there's no going back.
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
Really? I like you.
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
When they're really like hopeless, like I know a lot of people who are like in the outside they seem great, right? But they have no hope because they feel trapped. They feel stuck. They don't have the means and they don't think they have the means. They don't think they have the support to kind of get out of their own way until they stay doing something that they don't want to be doing. Yeah.
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
Again, another – you should just write a book of great analogies. Yeah. So this before we even go into anything, like have you always had this gift of wordsmithing and creating these super impactful ways to resonate and impact people?
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
And, you know, it takes somebody who has a lot of self-worth, not self-confidence. Self-confidence is very different than self-worth. You can have self-confidence and be confident in one thing, but have really bad self-worth. Yeah, yeah. Let your life just kind of flail. So I think that to me is, you know, I don't know.
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
When people feel hopeless, I think that's when people really kind of go down a bad place. Yeah. So how do you inspire people to feel like, A, that it's not over till it's over, that they're not alone, that this is just chapter five in a chapter book that's 30 chapters. Yeah. Like all the things that you've done.
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
Wow.
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Yeah.
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
No.
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Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
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Thank you.
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
It doesn't necessarily translate when I'm on stage because I get nervous because I don't feel like I'm good at it. And I think a lot of people. A lot. But the people who are really good at it, they're actually like the most disingenuous. They're not real. They're not even good at it, but they became. Master marketers. Master marketers.
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
Or they have a great speech person who gave them a great speech and they just practice it.
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
I had no idea you even did this.
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
Okay, give me another example. Absolutely. Yeah, this is great.
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
Okay.
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To be the best version of myself. I don't apologize. I don't apologize. For one thing that's happened in my life. For one thing that's happened in my life.
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
Because it makes me who I am today. And I. And I. Like. Like. Her. Her. It sounds weird when I do it. I had this woman on my show the other day, which is completely, you know what I'm talking, so coincidental. She's like the top voice coach in the world, right? She works with like the Shakiras of the world, right? And everybody.
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
And she walked me through, which is so weird, how your voice is like an instrument for like power and authority. And she was doing all these things about like, what? and then louder and all the... You're kind of saying similar things. And I have no idea. And you have no idea about that. But like... But yes. Doesn't it come across, if I do it, disingenuous?
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
I see what you're saying.
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Yeah.
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
Okay, so give me an example of when you've done that. Because I mean, I've seen so many of your videos, right?
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
Well, you just said something at the beginning, which I was like, I want to talk about this on the podcast, that you came from really humble beginnings.
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
Yeah, that's what I told you.
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
That was the one I said to you. Ain't none of your business. But I don't have, forget about me. People like don't have that flair, right? Like this is what makes you you, right? You're right. But you gave the story, like this is a couple things. You know how to pull stories. Like again, when you ask me and you can ask a million other people, they won't even know stories.
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
Like they've had a lot of life experiences, but they don't even know how to like extract them from themselves.
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
I have an example for you. There you go. This is more like a meeting. But what I was going to say, this is interesting. I did a TED Talk a few years back that went viral. And it was based on this story that was very, I think it was compelling to everyone because people can, basically it was about the fact that when I was a kid, I got somebody, I got Keanu Reeves to help me make a demo tape.
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
I mean, and that's like being polite. That's putting it nice. Yeah.
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
for a job and nobody thought I can do it. And everyone laughed at me. And then I met him somewhere completely, just completely miraculously. I asked him and he ended up saying yes. And they came to my house and my mom made him like cookies and lunch. And then I like basically had a camcorder and he allowed me to interview him for an hour so I can be a VJ on MTV, basically.
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
Because I thought nobody would look at me unless I had a big celebrity, right? And I told all my friends and they all laughed at me and then he ended up doing it for me. And so I talked about in my first TED Talk the power of being bold. Because my word is being bold. Like, chase what you want, don't take what you get. Like, chase, chase, chase. Don't just sit back and... acquiesce to good enough.
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
And I think it did very well because A, I think everybody feels that they acquiesce to whatever's in front of them and what's good enough. So it connected to people. And because it was such a like real story that people thought it was like cute that this like kid who's 17 did all this stuff to get to Keanu Reeves and it actually worked, right?
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
And the idea of like being bold and not letting your self-doubt, right? Anyway, why I'm bringing the story up is it had a lot of these elements that you're talking about, right? Yeah, unconscious competence. And so people liked it. Yeah. But it's hard to recreate. So like the reason why I pulled that story because it's like such a memorable thing that happened. Yeah.
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
it changed the entire trajectory of my life, right? Like I never let anybody ever tell me I can't do it because why would I listen to anybody? So the reason why I loved your perception story is because it resonated. So what I was going to ask you is, is how important is the content? How important is the content?
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
Because I think what makes anything good, regardless of all these other things, is if people can see themselves in the story. Yeah. And then give them hope. Hope. Because hope is such a big thing, in my opinion, too, that they, too... can do this. They too can live that life.
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
Right. That's so important.
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
But do you do one-on-ones or do you do groups only?
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
You do one-on-ones too?
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
Right. They're not just like, they're, so like, how did you make all your money though? Like you weren't doing this before. This is a new thing that you're doing. Oh, no, no. You weren't teaching up until when? Now? Now?
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
Well, that's what I'm saying.
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
You weren't teaching how to speak.
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This was like, this is your new thing.
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
And that, honestly, is because I didn't even... Because I'm a business person, right? When I see this, I'm like, this is something, this is actually a business. And then I found out that you're doing it. Yeah.
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
Yeah.
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
Right. Oprah's a big one. I mean, forget about the other ones.
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
Totally.
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
This is so interesting to me in a real way. I think this is the most, like, because that's how everyone knows you. I mean, that's why you were, like, until you just said that, I forgot about the chicken soup. Secret. And the secret, I mean, you did the two biggest. And Oprah. So, like, you are literally, like, in a box.
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
Like, you are, like, the personal development woman because there's not many others, honestly, you know.
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
How do you even pivot because people want to keep you in that box?
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
I saw him. I know. Right.
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
Yeah, or it makes me so nervous that it's like, there's a truth in the fact that like, it's a bigger fear than like dying, right? Yeah, it is. Than getting up there.
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
Well, it's 100% true and the anxiety that it just puts on. But when you made your money in transformational coaching, what were you teaching people then? How to overcome self-doubt?
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
Yeah.
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
Oh, wow.
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
Wait, what did your husband go to jail for? My husband, not my husband. Or your son's father.
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
Well, then how did you do it? Like, would someone help you kind of, like, create it?
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
Yeah, do you do a lot of speaking engagements? Like, do you get hired by companies a lot now? Like, what's your revenue streams now?
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
Well, that's why I'm asking you these questions.
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
Who's the other one?
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Oh, I don't know that.
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
Oh, okay.
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
Oh, okay. Well, she told me to come to this thing in Mexico. I won't be able to, unfortunately. But when you kept on bringing it, you brought it up a couple times. I'm like, oh, I wonder if it's the same thing.
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
Yeah.
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
Right.
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Okay, so what do you talk about, though? Because these are all the greatest techniques. This is great techniques. I love all of it. I'm so interested in what you're saying.
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
But when you go speak in Dubai, what are you speaking about now? Like what's captivating people? Do you have a few different keynotes that you just kind of play with? Do you just go up there like you said? I never do the same. That's what I was going to say because you said earlier in Toronto you didn't. I'm from Toronto, by the way.
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That is where I am literally from.
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That is unbelievable.
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
Anyway, keep going. No, that's crazy. You're my sister from another mister. That's crazy.
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
Nobody even knows what Winnipeg is. I do. I moved to Toronto when I was like 21, no, 18 or 19.
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
Nobody even knows where that is.
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
Did you hear that? That is hilarious.
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
Well, what's not to love, by the way? You know. But you said that you, okay, but I don't even know what I was going to, what was I going to say about, oh yeah, when you do, so you just go up there when people, and you just talk.
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
Give me an example.
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
Thank you.
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
Thank you.
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
Thank you.
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Thank you.
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Thank you. Thank you. I think that's exactly the problem with social media these days, right? Because I think you have a lot of people who can flowerly speak about all these possibilities. And say nothing. But there's zero, it's very vapid. Because everybody needs to know, like I said to you, it's like, I get that you were down and out. And I get now that you're a multimillionaire.
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
What's the first three steps to even start? And then what's after that? Like there's tranches and there's levels. And people don't have a blueprint. Then what? Right?
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Yeah.
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
I also think that the actual meet is boring, right? Like what you have to actually do, it's the daily habits that are exceptionally boring that you have to do at nauseam over and over and over and over again before you move on and get good at them.
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
Right. You need to, and I love that line.
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
And speaking of which, also, side note, you said you lost 100 pounds. How did you do it?
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
Oh, okay.
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
Yeah, I was going to say, like, I have a whole list. Will you invite me back?
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Wow.
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
Oh, yeah. I was not expecting that.
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
Will you come back soon?
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
That was last year you did this, the show?
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
Wow.
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
Okay, I'm not even going to ask you another question. Yeah, don't even.
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
Okay, fine.
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I do have a passport.
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I will go.
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I would totally go. I know.
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
Absolutely. You just tell me when and where and I will be there. I'm like, okay, I know that you've got to leave because I know that you have a car and all the other things. And what time is it? It's probably like.
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
I love it.
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
Oh, my God. She's so cute. I love you. Because you know what I love about you? You have such a nice way about you. And I love the way you described. I just think because you're authentic and real, number one. But you actually give people and you gave this episode. tangible things that people could integrate.
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
What my biggest pet peeve is when people leave everything and they're very verbose and they talk in platitudes and then people get nothing. They get zero to extract from and they can apply to their own life. And then I leave like very kind of unfulfilled and then I have to be polite and nice because what else am I going to do?
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
So thank you. No, thank you. Because I don't do well in, I don't suffer fools well. I don't like to sit with people who are very like here and very like, there's no- Snorkeling. Snorkeling. You want to scuba dive. I want to, I like to get right in there. I felt it. And get shit, like get in there. I cannot stand the surface, like la-li-li-li-li. And then like leave very, just very unfulfilling.
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
So you delivered, lady, with your green hat and your leather pants and all of it. So thank you.
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
Okay, I like them.
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
That's such a good one. Don't stop yet. See, this is what I'm saying. Like, you're the best. Like, this is what I mean, though. This is your gift. Like, your storytelling is a gift because that can happen to lots of people. But they don't have the ability to, like, you're a great orator. Thank you. So you must have had, let's go back to all those years ago.
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
No, no, no. I think that's a good point.
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
I think most people are breadcrumbers. That's the thing. And I think that you need breadcrumbs to see a path or else... You know, there's no path. Yeah. But, okay, Lisa, go check her out. Check out, she has this program. Check her out on Instagram. She's going to come back for part two. You promise, Lisa.
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
I'm going to put it in the show notes. You'll do it. I don't know what it is. Yeah, we'll put it in the show notes.
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
Thank you for having the conversation with me. Absolutely. You're yummy. Yeah, you are too. And so is your husband. Bye.
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
What was the first step into being like, okay, I'm not going to play, I'm not going to be a victim. I'm not going to allow my past to dictate my present or my future. Did you have like an inkling or did you know that you had a talent in this where you like went in? Yeah. Give me the evolution of how you became. You obviously went from here, A to Z. What was A to B?
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
So today on the podcast, we have the incredible Lisa Nichols. You guys, I am not kidding you. This woman, when she speaks, it is next level. You really are. Thank you. The word motivational speaker is such an overused, stupid hashtag. Thank you. It's horrible. Thank you. I hate using it. I hate saying it. I hate these like trendy hashtaggy words. Right.
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Episode 443: Colleen Pelly: The Secret Quality That Makes You More Hireable Than Technical Skills
Now, are people able, like if I were somebody who was looking for a job, right, unemployed, would I be able to, how do, like, would I be able to call a recruitment agency? Like, how do you find your candidates?
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Episode 443: Colleen Pelly: The Secret Quality That Makes You More Hireable Than Technical Skills
Oh my God, a hundred years ago.
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Episode 443: Colleen Pelly: The Secret Quality That Makes You More Hireable Than Technical Skills
But right, how do you find your people? Do you poach from other companies? Do you go on LinkedIn? Like how do you find people that you could even interview for these job opportunities?
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Episode 443: Colleen Pelly: The Secret Quality That Makes You More Hireable Than Technical Skills
So like if someone's looking for, so you kind of just keep like a Rolodex or like a database of people that you've known over the years that kind of left an impression.
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Episode 443: Colleen Pelly: The Secret Quality That Makes You More Hireable Than Technical Skills
So what's the percentage that you actually go after, like poach through other people? Like you call people who have jobs already versus people who don't have a job. I would say more often than not, they are employed. They are employed. Because it's one of my big theories in life. It's always easier to get a job when you have a job.
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Episode 443: Colleen Pelly: The Secret Quality That Makes You More Hireable Than Technical Skills
It's easier to find a boy or a boyfriend or a girlfriend when you have a relationship. But it's like the law of like Murphy's Law, right? Like when you have it, all these opportunities are available. When you have nothing, nothing.
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Episode 443: Colleen Pelly: The Secret Quality That Makes You More Hireable Than Technical Skills
Why?
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Episode 443: Colleen Pelly: The Secret Quality That Makes You More Hireable Than Technical Skills
Right.
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Episode 443: Colleen Pelly: The Secret Quality That Makes You More Hireable Than Technical Skills
And how to, you know, be hireable, you know, like, so I thought today we're going to, I thought today would be a great time to have Colleen Pellion, who is the CEO founder of a company called Linchpin, which is basically a recruitment agency. She, you, you help people find jobs, you find companies, you know, get employees from all levels, right? From entry all the way up to C-level.
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Episode 443: Colleen Pelly: The Secret Quality That Makes You More Hireable Than Technical Skills
Or they're curious.
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Episode 443: Colleen Pelly: The Secret Quality That Makes You More Hireable Than Technical Skills
I think, I think with life, right? Like when you, when you're like, when you're not desperate. When you just don't care. I mean, not, not. No, it's desperate. Desperate's the right way. Yeah, that's a good word. When you're not desperate for a job or a relationship or a date or whatever, you know, a house, whatever it is. Whatever it is. The, like the, you, you handle yourself differently, right?
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Episode 443: Colleen Pelly: The Secret Quality That Makes You More Hireable Than Technical Skills
Like the best version of you is actually presented, number one. Yeah. And, like, that kind of, like, laissez-faire attitude is way more attractive than this, like, you know, this, like, hint of desperation.
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Episode 443: Colleen Pelly: The Secret Quality That Makes You More Hireable Than Technical Skills
It's hard to say that though when someone needs money though, right? Of course. But then they always say like the best are always taken. So you have to go like, when I build out brands and companies and stuff like that, because I do a lot of stuff with lots of different companies, especially in the tech space, I find all the good tech people are actually taken.
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Episode 443: Colleen Pelly: The Secret Quality That Makes You More Hireable Than Technical Skills
It's really, really hard to find like super good people who can like build apps and people like that. Yeah. There are certain things that require people. I'm going to change what I said earlier. I would say 95% of jobs, it comes down to, you know, the EQ and the likability and the work ethic. But there are those jobs that you just need hardcore ability and talent.
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Episode 443: Colleen Pelly: The Secret Quality That Makes You More Hireable Than Technical Skills
Like accountants are one of these. Tech in terms of building an app, very important. Yeah.
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Episode 443: Colleen Pelly: The Secret Quality That Makes You More Hireable Than Technical Skills
Yeah. Like short and sweet. Yeah. Yeah. So can you tell me some of the industries that are a good idea for people to kind of look into that are, that are good, good places for people to maybe be able to find a good paying job?
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Episode 443: Colleen Pelly: The Secret Quality That Makes You More Hireable Than Technical Skills
Give me some jobs that people maybe haven't thought of or people who are maybe in college or, you know, this is what I guess, let me just kind of like, what I'm thinking is like, people are thinking of the same five jobs, you know, when they come in, like, am I going to be a lawyer? Am I going to be a doctor? Am I going to be an accountant? Am I going to be an influencer? That's a big one now.
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Episode 443: Colleen Pelly: The Secret Quality That Makes You More Hireable Than Technical Skills
YouTuber.
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Episode 443: Colleen Pelly: The Secret Quality That Makes You More Hireable Than Technical Skills
Yeah.
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Episode 443: Colleen Pelly: The Secret Quality That Makes You More Hireable Than Technical Skills
These are all the things that people are actually doing. But there's a whole variety and array of jobs out there and careers, I should call it, not just jobs, that people don't know about because they just don't know what they don't know. So the way I want to frame this question is different. I want you to tell us
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Episode 443: Colleen Pelly: The Secret Quality That Makes You More Hireable Than Technical Skills
some careers or career paths or industries or areas that would be very lucrative for people to maybe explore.
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Episode 443: Colleen Pelly: The Secret Quality That Makes You More Hireable Than Technical Skills
You mean to be a recruiter. Yeah.
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Episode 443: Colleen Pelly: The Secret Quality That Makes You More Hireable Than Technical Skills
Right? Yeah. So who better to ask than you, right? So thank you for coming on the show.
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Episode 443: Colleen Pelly: The Secret Quality That Makes You More Hireable Than Technical Skills
Can I tell you, okay, I want to like, you said a couple of things that I want to just touch on. It's really interesting. I have a very good friend living in Canada in Toronto. Her and I were really close when I was living in Canada many years ago. She was a recruiter, an executive search recruiter. Is that the same thing?
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Episode 443: Colleen Pelly: The Secret Quality That Makes You More Hireable Than Technical Skills
She did. Just exec. She did either one, the executive search. Actually, no, she was a recruiter because she did only tech stuff. Yeah. She was making so much money.
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Episode 443: Colleen Pelly: The Secret Quality That Makes You More Hireable Than Technical Skills
Yeah.
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Episode 443: Colleen Pelly: The Secret Quality That Makes You More Hireable Than Technical Skills
It was absurd. Like it was shocking how much money that she was making as a recruiter because of the commission staff. Like you could make so much money if you're good.
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Episode 443: Colleen Pelly: The Secret Quality That Makes You More Hireable Than Technical Skills
Yeah.
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Episode 443: Colleen Pelly: The Secret Quality That Makes You More Hireable Than Technical Skills
That's the first thing I was going to say. Yeah. So really what you need to be is tenacious because you have to be able to call people, also remember people.
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Episode 443: Colleen Pelly: The Secret Quality That Makes You More Hireable Than Technical Skills
I'm really excited to talk to you and have this conversation because I think now more than ever, it's in the zeitgeist of what's happening. I guess my first question for you is, I guess when you're hiring, what is the number one trait that makes somebody hireable?
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Episode 443: Colleen Pelly: The Secret Quality That Makes You More Hireable Than Technical Skills
To keep in touch. to be able to follow up, to maintain a relationship. These are like fundamental. These are like, to me, these are life skills that like make the biggest difference. Right. And so, and also be good at sales, right? You're going to sell yourself. You're going to sell the company. And an opportunity. The opportunity.
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Episode 443: Colleen Pelly: The Secret Quality That Makes You More Hireable Than Technical Skills
Like this is to me a massive area for people who are listening and they don't know what to potentially maybe look into for a job. Being a recruiter is a great option, I think. And also if you're placing jobs that are like a hundred thousand plus, you're making a major commission off of that. Like what's the commissions you guys make?
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Episode 443: Colleen Pelly: The Secret Quality That Makes You More Hireable Than Technical Skills
That's great money. Yeah. The other thing I find very interesting is what you're saying. To your point, plumbers, electricians. Do you know how impossible it is to find a plumber? Right. I needed a plumber for my house. We were waiting. three weeks, a month maybe, because they're so in demand. And these plumbers are making a lot of money.
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Episode 443: Colleen Pelly: The Secret Quality That Makes You More Hireable Than Technical Skills
But like there are, I think plumbers now, there are plumbers, and I think this is pretty much like all, universal now, like everywhere, are making more money than doctors.
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Episode 443: Colleen Pelly: The Secret Quality That Makes You More Hireable Than Technical Skills
By the way, teachers make no money. And they should make more than all of us. That's, by the way, one of these jobs, or I should say careers, that's like, they pay them nothing and they deserve so much more. It's unbelievable.
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Episode 443: Colleen Pelly: The Secret Quality That Makes You More Hireable Than Technical Skills
Oh, me too. I can't even imagine like 15. But there are some people who are just like really, like they have a lot of patience. If you're somebody who has a lot of patience and just loves kids, it's a great job. Me, I would strangle every child in there, including myself. I'd be the worst person to work in a daycare center. But I do find that interesting.
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Episode 443: Colleen Pelly: The Secret Quality That Makes You More Hireable Than Technical Skills
So there's in that trades world, you're talking electricians, you're talking plumbers, carpenters.
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Episode 443: Colleen Pelly: The Secret Quality That Makes You More Hireable Than Technical Skills
the base salary is not a lot you need the commission you also have to be a self-starter yeah and you're hungry yeah hungry yeah but also like entrepreneurial because it is your business that you're growing and it may be working within another business or just on your own like this is to me it's like being an entrepreneur right like these some everyone thinks it's sexy oh i'm gonna like it's become a very like hashtag worthy you know word like i'm an entrepreneur
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Episode 443: Colleen Pelly: The Secret Quality That Makes You More Hireable Than Technical Skills
Do you know how hard it is to be an entrepreneur?
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Episode 443: Colleen Pelly: The Secret Quality That Makes You More Hireable Than Technical Skills
But you have to have the thick skin, the stomach for it. I also – I don't know if you know this either, but – My whole brand is around being bold, right? And I did this TED Talk on being bold is actually more important than being intelligent and all these things. And this whole idea was behind the 10% target, which is this idea that you make 10 attempts at whatever you want most.
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Episode 443: Colleen Pelly: The Secret Quality That Makes You More Hireable Than Technical Skills
And so the idea behind it is that one of two things happen. Either you get the opportunity that you go after or another thing will present itself that you never even knew existed by just going through the process.
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Episode 443: Colleen Pelly: The Secret Quality That Makes You More Hireable Than Technical Skills
And the nice thing is what happens when you do that process is you end up failing and you get comfortable with failing because now you already have like some kind of framework where you're like, okay, I'm making 10 attempts. So now that's what I'm doing. So if I fail at the first, second, third, fourth, fifth, that's okay. And then you actually teach yourself to become immune to failing.
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Episode 443: Colleen Pelly: The Secret Quality That Makes You More Hireable Than Technical Skills
Yeah. And so, and I started to talk to all these like big sales companies because like that's really at the end of the day for people to become or for people to make a shot or, you know, give it a shot or it's about learning how to be resilient, how to be, how to be okay with failure.
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Episode 443: Colleen Pelly: The Secret Quality That Makes You More Hireable Than Technical Skills
First of all, the majority of people that I know, including myself, I fail 99.9% of the time. You just need to win once. But you will win. But it's a numbers game. It's volume. The more you take a shot, the better your chance is at actually getting that shot.
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Episode 443: Colleen Pelly: The Secret Quality That Makes You More Hireable Than Technical Skills
Yeah, setback is feedback.
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Episode 443: Colleen Pelly: The Secret Quality That Makes You More Hireable Than Technical Skills
Yeah. Yeah. I also think it's also like, we can talk about, I feel like all this, like people just try to like, oh, setback is, you know, is either feedback or setback is a feedback or like, or there's all these like other things.
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Episode 443: Colleen Pelly: The Secret Quality That Makes You More Hireable Than Technical Skills
cliche things similar like yeah like cliches like you know like it's um when you're like when you fall when you get up it's like redirection and all these things at the end of the day it's really simple it's like the more shots you make the the better chance you're gonna get well and also a success if you don't ask for it it's never gonna happen you don't ask you don't get it's like the squeaky wheel gets the oil right like maybe it's a canadian thing yeah you know you know a cliche i'm
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Episode 443: Colleen Pelly: The Secret Quality That Makes You More Hireable Than Technical Skills
It's so true. Well, a hundred percent. Like, that's what I was saying earlier. It's like, when you are practicing these 10 attempts and you're failing at them, the more you do something, the less uncomfortable it becomes, right? So like me at this point, like I'll do anything. I don't give a shit. Like if it works, it works.
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Episode 443: Colleen Pelly: The Secret Quality That Makes You More Hireable Than Technical Skills
If not, it doesn't even like, it's like no, it's like- But you're confident too, which I think takes, that's a skill. But you know what? Confidence comes from being competent. And I feel like I've built that muscle of competence because I've tried and practiced and practiced so much that the more you practice, you get better and better. And so now I feel like I'm really competent at failing.
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Episode 443: Colleen Pelly: The Secret Quality That Makes You More Hireable Than Technical Skills
So now it's like, okay, that's my superpower. I don't care when I fail. So like if I try to do something or I ask for something and I don't get it, well, okay, well, at least I feel better about myself that at least I made the shot. You tried. Yeah. Like, and I think that rejection is always better than regret. I never, right?
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Episode 443: Colleen Pelly: The Secret Quality That Makes You More Hireable Than Technical Skills
I never want to look back at something and be like, you know, what, what if? I wish I did. Yeah. Or what if, what if I tried that? Or like, what if that happened? Like on your deathbed, you're not thinking about all the things that you did. You think about all the things you did not do. Yeah. You know, like, oh, if I only apologize to this person. Right. Or spend more time with this or did this.
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Episode 443: Colleen Pelly: The Secret Quality That Makes You More Hireable Than Technical Skills
Yes. So regret, like I find regret to be a really horrible gutter, gutter, like gutterly bad feeling. Yeah. That's a word. Yeah. So I'll get rejected all day long. I don't care.
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Episode 443: Colleen Pelly: The Secret Quality That Makes You More Hireable Than Technical Skills
Right. So like you're so like this is why I like you because you are you are an entrepreneur because you started this business. You're a recruiter, which in itself, it's like a double whammy.
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Episode 443: Colleen Pelly: The Secret Quality That Makes You More Hireable Than Technical Skills
It's a lot of like being a recruiter right away. Super difficult to start your own business. And then a recruitment business, which is all all eat what you kill, period. End of story. Right. And it's a really saturated market. It's is it?
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Episode 443: Colleen Pelly: The Secret Quality That Makes You More Hireable Than Technical Skills
That's like-minded like you. Can I ask you another question that I find? Yeah. I find it interesting because also the workforce has also changed a lot over the last few years, especially since COVID, right? Nobody wants to go into work. Everybody wants to work remotely. Yeah. How does that impact employment?
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Episode 443: Colleen Pelly: The Secret Quality That Makes You More Hireable Than Technical Skills
So it's funny because I think that self-awareness is key for all walks of life, right? And it's not so common, right? It's something that we, I guess, some of us, I do feel in your opinion, is it something that someone can work on or is it something that's more innate?
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Episode 443: Colleen Pelly: The Secret Quality That Makes You More Hireable Than Technical Skills
But do the companies do better when their employees are in office versus hybrid or remote?
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Episode 443: Colleen Pelly: The Secret Quality That Makes You More Hireable Than Technical Skills
I don't know. I think there's something to be said for two things, employee morale.
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Episode 443: Colleen Pelly: The Secret Quality That Makes You More Hireable Than Technical Skills
And also just camaraderie.
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Episode 443: Colleen Pelly: The Secret Quality That Makes You More Hireable Than Technical Skills
Because what happens is I find we're living in a more and more disconnected world as, like, just in general. Yep. And now we're putting the onus – like, the rules are now on the employees, not the employers. Like, we're having to bend towards people's disinterest or desire to go into an office. And what I feel is happening is people are becoming – lazy.
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Episode 443: Colleen Pelly: The Secret Quality That Makes You More Hireable Than Technical Skills
And they're, and they're not realizing that like they're the work. I mean, you're right. There's some jobs that, yeah, it doesn't require to be back in the office, but it's not even so much about that. It's about creating community, corporate culture. Corporate culture is very hard to build when everybody is dispersed in their homes.
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Episode 443: Colleen Pelly: The Secret Quality That Makes You More Hireable Than Technical Skills
But you're at a sales job. It's different. Yeah.
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Episode 443: Colleen Pelly: The Secret Quality That Makes You More Hireable Than Technical Skills
I don't like, listen, I hate the office. But what I feel is that you don't get a job that's office driven. But it's different when you are a salesperson because your bottom line is based, what you eat is based on how much you sell. That's right. Yeah. Okay. So then that doesn't, there has to be some like malleability. Yeah.
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Episode 443: Colleen Pelly: The Secret Quality That Makes You More Hireable Than Technical Skills
But if it's a marketing job or if it's a job that's involving PR or whatever it is, I don't know. Design, yeah. and flexibility at the employer's expense. Like work-life balance. Like now people are like calling the shots. I don't want to work later than three. I don't want to work on Friday. I don't want to wear that to work. It's like, you know what? Then don't get a job and you'll go hungry.
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Episode 443: Colleen Pelly: The Secret Quality That Makes You More Hireable Than Technical Skills
Exactly. I think that's very common. What I also find interesting that in all my dealings in life and business, that I feel that talent is very overrated. And talent definitely gets you through the door. But if you don't have these other micro skills…
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Episode 443: Colleen Pelly: The Secret Quality That Makes You More Hireable Than Technical Skills
At what point is it too much? At what point, like, I feel like the pendulum has now swung so far one direction that it's becoming a real problem. Like, where it's a different thing. Like, oh, the triggers, the safe places. Yes, right. You know, all of this kind of rhetoric.
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Episode 443: Colleen Pelly: The Secret Quality That Makes You More Hireable Than Technical Skills
It's soft and gentle. Yeah.
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Episode 443: Colleen Pelly: The Secret Quality That Makes You More Hireable Than Technical Skills
Which I feel, from all the research and data I've seen, I've seen people and companies actually plummet. They're not staying plateau. They're not actually like staying... They're not thriving, let's put it that way.
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Episode 443: Colleen Pelly: The Secret Quality That Makes You More Hireable Than Technical Skills
Wokeness is another word.
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Episode 443: Colleen Pelly: The Secret Quality That Makes You More Hireable Than Technical Skills
That's the word I'm thinking.
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Episode 443: Colleen Pelly: The Secret Quality That Makes You More Hireable Than Technical Skills
There should be parameters in place you're saying. Yeah.
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Episode 443: Colleen Pelly: The Secret Quality That Makes You More Hireable Than Technical Skills
And sort of what's more mine. It's like… I'm not where you are, right? Yeah. Yeah. I feel like I'm not an office person, so I know better to get a job, an office job.
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Episode 443: Colleen Pelly: The Secret Quality That Makes You More Hireable Than Technical Skills
Right. And also, whatever money I make, if I don't make money and I don't work, then I won't make money. And if I do work, then I will make money. But my personality is okay with that. A lot of people's personalities are not okay with that.
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Episode 443: Colleen Pelly: The Secret Quality That Makes You More Hireable Than Technical Skills
It's not aligning because I think a lot of times people want to be, again... entrepreneur. They want to be an entrepreneur, but they don't have the chops to actually do that. So they want a company to kind of pay them a salary, but then they don't want to like, they don't, they don't want to acquiesce to what it requires to have a salary to get this done. Yeah.
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Episode 443: Colleen Pelly: The Secret Quality That Makes You More Hireable Than Technical Skills
like you said, like self-awareness or a higher EQ or reading the room or all these other things, work ethic, it really does dampen the importance of talent.
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Episode 443: Colleen Pelly: The Secret Quality That Makes You More Hireable Than Technical Skills
Yeah. I think we all have work to progress. But I guess my other question, again, was kind of like what I was saying is, have you seen it more difficult to find or place people because of this new gentle, mindful, as you would put it? What was the other word you used?
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Episode 443: Colleen Pelly: The Secret Quality That Makes You More Hireable Than Technical Skills
Safe.
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Episode 443: Colleen Pelly: The Secret Quality That Makes You More Hireable Than Technical Skills
Really? Yeah.
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Episode 443: Colleen Pelly: The Secret Quality That Makes You More Hireable Than Technical Skills
I remember.
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Episode 443: Colleen Pelly: The Secret Quality That Makes You More Hireable Than Technical Skills
When I was living in Toronto and I was at the Raptors at the time.
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I remember people were coming in, taking them in. They took like they were living in All these places that were, I can say the names, people won't know, but like Oakville, this is all, whatever. I know. Yeah, I know you know. But 45 minutes to an hour and it was like kind of what you did if you wanted the job.
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Episode 443: Colleen Pelly: The Secret Quality That Makes You More Hireable Than Technical Skills
Well, it was not that they didn't care. It's what you had to do. Yeah, they knew it was a part of what was needed. If you wanted the job. Yeah. Like it was what was required of you. Yeah. And this is my issue. It's like, what is required? Like sometimes you're going to have to go above and beyond what you want to do to get to where you want to be. And that's what I'm talking about.
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Episode 443: Colleen Pelly: The Secret Quality That Makes You More Hireable Than Technical Skills
But like now there's a whole thing on like how Gen Z, do you know that 26% of Gen Z are now bringing their parent to a job interview because they don't feel comfortable? comfortable and confident enough to have an interview. Yeah. This is what's happening in, well, in the US anyway. I don't know what the numbers are. You've never experienced anything like this?
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Pulling out before the interview? Yeah, like sort of like...
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Episode 443: Colleen Pelly: The Secret Quality That Makes You More Hireable Than Technical Skills
Hold on. You're telling me. Yeah. That's someone that you are interviewing for a job. Yeah. For them to have a job.
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Episode 443: Colleen Pelly: The Secret Quality That Makes You More Hireable Than Technical Skills
And you had to switch it, let's just say, to reschedule.
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The fact that you're justifying it to this person to me is even crazy. Like, let me get this straight. I'm going to help you find a job that you could pay your bills with. And I don't, because I had to reschedule and shift, you know, they're telling you now what's what. This is my, this is my problem with Gen Z. Right. Yep. Yep. No, it's such… Terrible.
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Episode 443: Colleen Pelly: The Secret Quality That Makes You More Hireable Than Technical Skills
Right. They want to either, like… Or they want to… There's other types of jobs out there, like social media managers or… Content creators is a big one, right? Content creators.
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Episode 443: Colleen Pelly: The Secret Quality That Makes You More Hireable Than Technical Skills
It does. It kind of, I guess you're right. And like what jobs, what kind of careers kids are wanting to seek is like you said, very different than what it used to be. Like it used to be doctor, lawyer, let's say. Yeah. Nurse.
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Episode 443: Colleen Pelly: The Secret Quality That Makes You More Hireable Than Technical Skills
Content creation is a big one or the YouTuber. AI is a big one, but AI is like going to be taking over like both of our jobs. Yeah. Like we won't need, they won't need recruiters. They won't need podcasters. They won't need anything.
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Episode 443: Colleen Pelly: The Secret Quality That Makes You More Hireable Than Technical Skills
Yeah.
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Episode 443: Colleen Pelly: The Secret Quality That Makes You More Hireable Than Technical Skills
Well, what I would think would be a really great area to get involved with is how to use AI because someone's going to have to like, I would think manually work it. Right. So like, even though AI is going to be taking over a lot of different jobs, right. And they have,
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Episode 443: Colleen Pelly: The Secret Quality That Makes You More Hireable Than Technical Skills
I mean, listen, I think I should tell you, I don't know if you know this, you probably don't, but many, many years ago, yeah, many, like 25 years ago, when I was in between jobs and career, I got a job at a recruitment agency. Amazing, I did not know that. No, I didn't think you would know this.
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Episode 443: Colleen Pelly: The Secret Quality That Makes You More Hireable Than Technical Skills
They are already being, like, to your point, like, I use it when I need to do a presentation or some type of really huge communication piece or, like, research or all these things. Oh, research has been so useful. Research is so useful. But you have to know how to use it effectively. Yeah. having people to actually like use it or teach it or it's very, very valuable.
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Episode 443: Colleen Pelly: The Secret Quality That Makes You More Hireable Than Technical Skills
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Episode 443: Colleen Pelly: The Secret Quality That Makes You More Hireable Than Technical Skills
Yeah, exactly.
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Episode 443: Colleen Pelly: The Secret Quality That Makes You More Hireable Than Technical Skills
But it's a way to kind of – so you're utilizing AI but in a way that also incorporates a human person.
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Episode 443: Colleen Pelly: The Secret Quality That Makes You More Hireable Than Technical Skills
Absolutely. Yeah.
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Episode 443: Colleen Pelly: The Secret Quality That Makes You More Hireable Than Technical Skills
Well, like I said, I think that there are going to have to be people that man the AI or teach the AI or keep on, like, creating versions and versions of it. Or, you know, the truth is, like, a layman's person like me going on AI to research something is very different than someone who really knows how to use it well and they know exactly, specifically how to talk to it.
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Episode 443: Colleen Pelly: The Secret Quality That Makes You More Hireable Than Technical Skills
And they may get more, yeah. And they will get way better, more unique information, you know, through it.
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Episode 443: Colleen Pelly: The Secret Quality That Makes You More Hireable Than Technical Skills
I'll let you know when I figure it out. Thank you. Well, okay. So thank you. Let me know. What other things can you teach us or that we can glean from you in terms of the workforce, what we could be looking? Is there anything else that we can give our audience?
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Episode 443: Colleen Pelly: The Secret Quality That Makes You More Hireable Than Technical Skills
And what I found was I was working on, I got hired to like help with like technology people, like people to do like It was like graphic design. It was like coding. It was computer talent. And what I found, even with my own like very minimal experience, the people who got the job or I recommended were the people that were the most likable, that I just like to be around.
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Episode 443: Colleen Pelly: The Secret Quality That Makes You More Hireable Than Technical Skills
See, this is the EQ part, right? Like if you teach that, cause that's like a very, that's a, that's a skill to know how much to do where you're not pushy versus annoying or annoying.
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Episode 443: Colleen Pelly: The Secret Quality That Makes You More Hireable Than Technical Skills
Exactly. But it's really important to really build out your network. I think like we say, there's a reason why I believe this cliche. It's not what you know, it's who you know. And it's about like networking well. And I always say that everybody can be a conduit to someone else. So it's not who you're speaking to at that exact moment, but they have a whole network.
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Episode 443: Colleen Pelly: The Secret Quality That Makes You More Hireable Than Technical Skills
And then that person has a whole network. So always leave another meeting with another name. That's what I always tell people. I love that. Yeah. But thank you so much, Colleen, for coming on. I really appreciate this information. This was really fun. I hope people have gleaned a lot of, I think they have.
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Episode 443: Colleen Pelly: The Secret Quality That Makes You More Hireable Than Technical Skills
They've gleaned a lot of actionable things of what other areas they can look at or look into that maybe they haven't thought of. Where do people find you?
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Episode 443: Colleen Pelly: The Secret Quality That Makes You More Hireable Than Technical Skills
I'm going to follow you. And of course, you're welcome. I love this. I think it's very helpful. I like to give people things that they can actually utilize and things that are helpful. And this is definitely one of them, especially in the time we're in now. So thank you so much. Thank you. Bye.
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Episode 443: Colleen Pelly: The Secret Quality That Makes You More Hireable Than Technical Skills
And like, it is my opinion in general, I think that likability is a way bigger indicator of someone's success and overall higher ability than any talent that you can ever have.
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Episode 443: Colleen Pelly: The Secret Quality That Makes You More Hireable Than Technical Skills
Yeah.
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Episode 443: Colleen Pelly: The Secret Quality That Makes You More Hireable Than Technical Skills
Well, that's another one, like a sense of urgency.
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Episode 443: Colleen Pelly: The Secret Quality That Makes You More Hireable Than Technical Skills
It's so unhealthy.
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Episode 443: Colleen Pelly: The Secret Quality That Makes You More Hireable Than Technical Skills
Right. I think that there's like certain things that override just actual, like you said, technical ability, right? Now, do you feel like, would you specialize? Do you have any specialties at Linchpin? Yeah. Great question.
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Episode 443: Colleen Pelly: The Secret Quality That Makes You More Hireable Than Technical Skills
Really?
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Episode 443: Colleen Pelly: The Secret Quality That Makes You More Hireable Than Technical Skills
Right.
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Episode 443: Colleen Pelly: The Secret Quality That Makes You More Hireable Than Technical Skills
Right. Well, it's like also transferable skills, right? If you can do it in one area... You can do it in another area. It doesn't matter, right? Like if you can sell a widget, you can sell a widget in cars, you can sell a widget for a sofa or whatever it is. Absolutely. Because it's like the foundational skills of knowing of like what you're doing.
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Episode 443: Colleen Pelly: The Secret Quality That Makes You More Hireable Than Technical Skills
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Episode 443: Colleen Pelly: The Secret Quality That Makes You More Hireable Than Technical Skills
Right.
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Right, right, right.
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Episode 443: Colleen Pelly: The Secret Quality That Makes You More Hireable Than Technical Skills
Well, also the companies that do really well and thrive all have a very streamlined feel to it. Like Lululemon is a great example. And I know you used to work with Lululemon.
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Episode 443: Colleen Pelly: The Secret Quality That Makes You More Hireable Than Technical Skills
Really? Yeah. I knew you worked with them. I wasn't sure if it was the beginning or like middle. Yeah, that's right. But what they did very early on, and I think they were the first ones that I recognized was doing really well, was building a culture. And the culture was very, very strong. And everybody that they hired, they all fit that culture really well. And like bought into it. Yes, exactly.
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Episode 443: Colleen Pelly: The Secret Quality That Makes You More Hireable Than Technical Skills
And I think like it was almost... What was that called? Did you guys have a mandate? Like when they... when they hired you to hire their employees, did they give you kind of like a mission statement to work with or?
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Episode 443: Colleen Pelly: The Secret Quality That Makes You More Hireable Than Technical Skills
Right. And did everybody, I mean, yeah, that was like the big, at the time.
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Episode 443: Colleen Pelly: The Secret Quality That Makes You More Hireable Than Technical Skills
At the, but everybody's personality fit a very specific, I felt like a very specific kind of collective rule, like not rules is the wrong word, but like everyone kind of was cut from the same cloth.
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Episode 443: Colleen Pelly: The Secret Quality That Makes You More Hireable Than Technical Skills
But it wasn't a yoga company. It was actually an apparel company. It was a clothing company. They were selling the most expensive pair of pants on the planet, yoga pants, right? Yeah, that's right.
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Episode 443: Colleen Pelly: The Secret Quality That Makes You More Hireable Than Technical Skills
Oh, it's still. And by the way, yeah. But now they were the first of its kind. Now there's a million of them, right?
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Episode 443: Colleen Pelly: The Secret Quality That Makes You More Hireable Than Technical Skills
I also found everyone very friendly when they walked in. Yeah. And everybody, not just friendly, but like overly like happy. Yeah. Yeah.
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Episode 443: Colleen Pelly: The Secret Quality That Makes You More Hireable Than Technical Skills
Right. Yeah. But like, but like it works, right? Yep. Yeah. Because I'm now talking about it like years later because they obviously set a standard that they would hire for.
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Episode 443: Colleen Pelly: The Secret Quality That Makes You More Hireable Than Technical Skills
And I guess when everyone starts that job, they get like some kind of manifesto.
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Episode 443: Colleen Pelly: The Secret Quality That Makes You More Hireable Than Technical Skills
It looked like it was fun.
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Episode 443: Colleen Pelly: The Secret Quality That Makes You More Hireable Than Technical Skills
And then, so were you, so you weren't really involved in like building out the brand culture at that level at that point?
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Episode 443: Colleen Pelly: The Secret Quality That Makes You More Hireable Than Technical Skills
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Episode 443: Colleen Pelly: The Secret Quality That Makes You More Hireable Than Technical Skills
Yeah.
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Episode 443: Colleen Pelly: The Secret Quality That Makes You More Hireable Than Technical Skills
Can you give me another example of a really strong corporate culture that you were a part of that you helped kind of, I guess, really execute on?
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Episode 443: Colleen Pelly: The Secret Quality That Makes You More Hireable Than Technical Skills
And what kind of mandate were you given? What were they looking for?
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Episode 443: Colleen Pelly: The Secret Quality That Makes You More Hireable Than Technical Skills
Wow. How many people did you hire for them? Thousands. And from what level to what level? Yeah.
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Wow.
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Episode 443: Colleen Pelly: The Secret Quality That Makes You More Hireable Than Technical Skills
Welcome to Habits & Hustle. Today, we have a very special guest because I thought given where we are in the world and how everything right now is tweaking and changing, of course, with the new president coming in, I think a big thing that's in everybody's mind is inflation, the economy. How does employment, how does all this impact jobs, basically, right?
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Episode 443: Colleen Pelly: The Secret Quality That Makes You More Hireable Than Technical Skills
Yeah, project-based.
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Episode 443: Colleen Pelly: The Secret Quality That Makes You More Hireable Than Technical Skills
Was Elon involved in that, like, in terms of, like, building up the mission statement, the manifesto, what people should be... He spoke at, oh, my gosh, the word, like, town halls. Yeah. Like a sort of a... For Tesla. Yeah.
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Episode 443: Colleen Pelly: The Secret Quality That Makes You More Hireable Than Technical Skills
Right. But people, everyone there, like, like they wanted you, one of the people to feel like lucky to have had the job.
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Episode 443: Colleen Pelly: The Secret Quality That Makes You More Hireable Than Technical Skills
Oh, but I mean, for the people that you're hiring, did they all come from Ivy League? Did they all come from?
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
Yeah, well, the Huberman connection, I would imagine.
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
That's crazy. Okay, so because I was going to actually ask you about, in the nutrition sense, like what kind of, I mean, in terms of quality protein, I think you're going to say obviously animal protein versus plant protein.
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
That's like with vegans, right? Yeah, it's tough. It's tough. And that's why I don't understand. To me, you get the most bang for your buck with animal protein.
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
Would you believe in protein shakes? Like, I know you're a fan of Momentous. I'm a fan of Momentous. I'm definitely going to drink this as soon as we're done. Oh, yeah. This is late. This is like on the go. These are delicious. Yeah.
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
That's the thing. Yeah. I was going to give them to you because I thought that... Yeah. Yeah, they're very easy to take and travel with.
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
I did. I saw that.
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
You know, that's funny you say that because I'm a big fan of Momentous as you are because I think that there's a lot of confusion, right? Because there's so many brands on the market. This is, by the way, not an ad for Momentous, but I swear because they do something called triple test. Have you heard of this whole?
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
What is the optimal, I know everything's very individualized based, but what is the optimal diet for high performance?
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
Yeah, third-party tested, yeah.
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
Exactly. It's hard to tell. Because that's the problem with all of this. You don't know who to trust because everyone says everything. And then you're overwhelmed. But then I heard, and that's why with Momentous especially, I trust their products. I've seen a lot of different studies come out though regarding chocolate versus vanilla whey.
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
Is it true that chocolate has more heavy metals in lead overall and it's less healthy than vanilla? Have you heard this before? No, I haven't heard that. I'm not sure. Really? No. I just read something about this yesterday, that chocolate has more—they found more toxicities or a lot of different things in protein powder.
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
Really? How? Well, I mean— Why? Why chocolate versus vanilla? Yeah.
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
So I don't really care. That's why, guys, you have to be very careful what products you are. Listen to trusted sources. Listen to Dr. Andy Albin.
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
Okay, for optimal cognitive performance.
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How do you know that companies are telling you the truth?
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
I know, but we're so not, by the way. I'm going to clip this and send it to them. They'll be very happy because this was not planned.
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
Right. No, exactly. Okay. So while we're talking about shakes or protein shakes or smoothies, what do you think about the fact that there's been a lot of... Someone came on this podcast recently, a while ago, and talked all about how when you have a shake and how when you blend the shake... The way your body digests the fruits of the shake is much different in the blending process.
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
Your insulin spikes way higher than just eating a fruit by itself. Is that accurate?
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
No, not fruit juice. Taking a banana.
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
And blending it. Okay.
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
Okay.
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
Drinking the meat?
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
Okay, I know. Blueberries, wild salmon. Got it. Right? All this stuff. It's all true. It's all true.
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
Right. Maybe not you, but other people who have to be more conscientious of their insulin or sugar.
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
Right. And also, I guess, so in terms of just, it's better to have that than have, you know, like French fries or something. Totally, exactly, right?
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
How about fiber? People don't talk a lot about fiber. Yeah, super important. Right? People talk a lot about protein and they're missing the fact that fiber helps with your whole like nutrient absorption, right? If you're not absorbing your nutrients, you're kind of fucked.
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
So you can over-fiber? Of course. Because can you also get constipated if you over-fiber? No question about it.
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
Right, right, okay.
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
Wow. I thought most Americans or most people were not eating enough fiber.
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
Do you think eating, I mean, I love breakfast. Can I not eat breakfast? Of course you can eat breakfast. They're like, oh, well, you won't be an autophagy and you're going to be blah, blah, blah.
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
How about fiber supplements?
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
I have one called BioMe here. Have you heard of that one?
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
BioMe. It's very clean. It's like a fiber supplement that is supposed to be very clean and good for you. But yeah.
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
How about other, okay, in terms of supplementing, what's your take? Are there supplements that you think are definitely like 100% you must take? Do you think supplements are overrated? What's your whole take on supplements?
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
Really?
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Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
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Thank you.
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
You're right. And he hit fast. Like, it was crazy. Like, I remember when I found him at 50,000 or something so small.
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
And then like, I've never seen anyone track that fast. Like, he's at like millions and millions. Like, he's become mainstream. Like, I think probably my mom knows who he is. You know what I mean? Like, it's so bizarre. Yeah.
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
I like to—oh, my gosh. By the way, this wasn't an ad for Andrew Huberman either. Yeah. It just seemed to be like, well, he's—I'm glad he has a friend like you, but you can tell him on the side, listen, this girl, you know, you said you were going to do her show many years ago.
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
And then it's just... Then why is he showing up on other shows?
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
You don't know?
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
Okay, okay.
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
He has time for Joe Rogan. Well, fair enough. You know, I'm just saying. I'm just saying. Okay. Well, anyway, Andrew, you're more than welcome to come on the show if you so have the time. Okay. What was the other thing? Okay. So I had, now I forgot what I was even yammering onto you about. I was saying she supplements. Oh yeah. Let's just go with, okay, we're going to end with this.
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
Give me the day in the life of what you do. You kind of, you're talking about your kids and your morning routine. You're kind of going into your nutrition and then I cut you off with something else. Tell me what you... You got all excited about the bear meat. I got the, yeah, the bear meat like threw me totally off and I was like very excited. So we got the morning down. Okay.
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
And then you, then what happened? Yeah.
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And what supplements? I want to know everything.
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
Supplementation wise, it is. Oh, wait, one more question about fruit. That was what I had down here. I'm so sorry to interrupt you. What's your take on too much fruit? It's unlikely to be an issue. Okay.
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100%.
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And people are like, it's not about calorie eating. Yes, it is. And I will tell you something just quickly because you can eat fruit, but I will say I'm a huge fruit person. I can eat five pounds of grapes in one sitting, no problem. And I will gain weight from it.
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
It does happen. Sure.
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
Calories matter.
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100%.
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You don't. You're not just like... Have you heard of something called NAC, N-A-C?
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
How important is that?
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In what way? What can happen?
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
Okay, I want to tell you about one. I saw it on Instagram, and I went to buy it. It's called Ask... Okay, hold on a second. I'm going to show you on Amazon. This is very important because it was like, I thought it was like, they said it's the number one antioxidant, blah, blah, blah. So important to take. And I was like, oh, okay. I guess I'm missing out on something here. Okay.
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
Why?
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
And it's called astaxanthin.
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
Yeah.
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
It is a potent one. So I thought because it's an antioxidant and it's supposed to be found in blueberries, it's great for your skin, and da-da-da-da, I thought, wow, like more is more, not less is more.
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
So I should get off of these things.
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
Well, I went to get my blood done by this guy who took 300 of my blood markers, and he said that I need to take it.
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
Okay, I got to get my blood taken again. Wow. Yeah, yeah. Okay, thank you. I'm glad you came just for that.
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
Here, in L.A. right now. Right. So should I be taking it now because of the air quality?
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
Okay. I need to ask you again, because I'm actually very serious about this now. How much is it if someone comes to see, because you're so, you have all these labs and these tests. If I came to you and said, Hey, I want to be your client. Can you coach me? You personally, you're not going to coach me. Don't lie.
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
So what kind of optimal diet would you put a pro golfer on?
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
How much are you?
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
Okay, I want to know. I think people want to know. I bet you people are curious. Like, how much is it?
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
Is it $1,000? Yeah.
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
5,000?
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
Like, is it by hour, by month?
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
It's not a la carte.
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
You can't be embarrassed. If you're actually charging this price, you have to be able to say it out loud.
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
Why is it better this way? Because people are going to be like, oh, this guy sounds really knowledgeable.
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
Will you tell me afterwards?
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
You said 115-ish markers.
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
Who does that? Who gives me that?
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
So it will tell me.
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
How much is that program? That's $1,250.
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
Does someone come to your house and take your blood? You can do that if you want.
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
Is much more expensive, again, because it's... No, I'll tell you, I'll ask, because I want to know just in general, because this is, I want to try this stuff. And obviously, I don't know why you're embarrassed to say it over here.
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
And you have like, who's like the biggest athlete you've done, by the way?
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
Like someone who's like optimally known to be optimal.
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
Patrick Mahomes.
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
Like LeBron?
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
But are they eating more regularly? Generally eating very regularly. Like six times a day or five?
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
Do you train people personally? Yeah. Like in the gym?
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
So you do the whole thing. But you live in Seattle.
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Oh.
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Mm-hmm.
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
So were you a trainer too? Like you did this stuff? Yeah, yeah. Like you did the whole thing?
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
Yeah.
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
So were you a trainer then? Like if I were to say, hey, I want a trainer, can you come over?
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
Yeah, so you do the whole thing from kit and caboodle.
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
Versus the surgeon or the firefighter or that makes perfect sense. Also, is it true? I mean, again, is it that women and men, intermittent fasting affects women and men differently?
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
Wow. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
All the different things.
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
Yeah.
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
Right. Well, I think you're different. I mean, you're obviously so knowledgeable. That's the thing. At a certain level, they need people like you. You can't just be a trainer doing squats and lunges. You have to understand.
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
But I'm saying everything serves a purpose, right? To get to the next level of these intricacies, right? You need someone who has a background in all of these things.
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
Yeah.
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
Yeah, holistic approach.
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
In what they're good at.
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
You're the quarterback basically of the program. Kind of. I get that. Yeah. Okay, quickly, in two minutes, give me your day-to-day. Okay, I know you eat bear and eggs in the morning. Then what happens?
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
And then other habits, like you work out at 2 or 3 o'clock.
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
Do you do push-pull?
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
Where are you staying? At the Ramada Inn now or where?
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
Okay. Not gender specific. The reason why I say gender is because I found that for women, I've noticed, the response is different overall. Some women think it's the best thing in the world. There's a bunch of fasting experts, doctors, who think that it's Nishanda if you don't fast.
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
Yeah. By the way, the best in the world have coaches.
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
Yeah. I agree with you.
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
And if you're motivated, then you don't need someone to stand with you, right? I don't need that at all. You just need them to kind of give you the program.
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
Yeah. I mean, I'm the same way as you.
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
Wow. By the way, I'm so sorry. I kept you here for three plus hours. I mean, I could go on and on. My leg fell asleep like four times.
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
But okay, I'm going to let you leave because I know you're probably like, when is this girl going to shut up?
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
I mean, and I can go on and on, but I'm going to give you, I'm going to let you peace out. Okay. Okay. You guys, this is again, Dr. Andy Galpin. Check out all his programs. Check out his podcast. Check out his six part series with Andrew Heberman, who we, who he loves. And he's great. You like, you're great. Would you, would you come back?
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
All right, because I would love to have you on like semi-regularly if you can stand it. Because I mean, you have, I mean, if I'm going to ask these questions, I want to ask them to someone who pretty much I can guarantee has the answer in, you know, who knows the answer, not just making up shit as they go. You know what I mean?
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
Okay, well, just pretend. All right. All right. Thank you so much for coming on the show.
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
Bye, everyone.
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
Yeah, I say the opposite. I think it's worse.
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
That doesn't always happen, right?
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
You said something, though. You said there are six things that are fundamental in your nutrition for optimal... Yeah.
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
So let's talk about protein, right? Different types of protein. What do you say would be the amount of protein someone should eat a day, basically? Gram a pound. Gram a pound. Same as everybody else says. Okay. So give me a, what do you eat? Give me what you eat every single day.
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
Okay.
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
Wild game meat.
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
What? Bear? Yeah.
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
Wait, you've hunted a bear? Yeah, of course. Of course, isn't everybody? I feel like I'm losing out. I'm missing out on something. It's quite tasty. You've eaten a bear?
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
Cannot comprehend it.
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
How is it different than a cow, taste-wise?
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
How often do you eat this wild meat? Every day.
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
Does your family eat this too?
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
So do everything you eat, you hunt yourself?
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
How many years? My wife goes. Oh, okay, okay. So it's not that because you don't believe in the grocery store.
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
Not enough pork. I mean, I'm Jewish, so I don't eat pork.
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
Yeah, she's a bad Jew. Most Jews don't eat pork, but I mean, pork now sounds much better than bear, I got to tell you.
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
Finally, I want to get to nutrition. I've been dying to ask you about this stuff. Okay. Optimal nutrition, optimal diet. I know there's so much, so much information, right? Like about intermittent fasting, fasting for 24, whatever it's 24 hours, keto, non-keto, paleo, vegan, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Can you talk about nutrition beyond just nutrition? eat a lot of protein, right? Sure.
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
I can't even believe... You just said it so matter-of-factly like everybody you'd say.
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
What do you make with bear? You said bear steak?
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
How do you make a bear sausage?
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I can't even right now. Oh, my God.
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
Do you go hunting with Joe Rogan? I feel like he's the only one that does all that.
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
I would imagine. In terms of just, let's stay on like influencer marketing. What's the difference between digital marketing? Like is influencer marketing, how do you get the biggest bang for your buck online when you market?
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
All right, because our guest today is Shannon Race. She is the principal at Starshot Ventures, which is a venture fund where they basically invest in brands, emerging brands or ideas, which we're going to talk about. She's also the co-founder of a company called Biome. We're going to get all into it. And we're going to learn about how deals are made in the venture space.
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
But say it because that's the truth, right?
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
Because that's a very good point, right? Like it's one thing to kind of be the first to bring a category to, I guess, to the market, right? Like a collagen for vital proteins. Yeah. It's a whole different thing when you're trying to like re-innovate or innovate something that's been around forever, right? So can you walk me through like steps on how you do that?
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
I've known about fiber for, I mean, in terms of for gut health, it is like a primary source. Like you, It helps your entire digestive system regulate.
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
What are some like hot things that people are looking at now, like what's emerging, what's trending. And so, like I said, if you are an entrepreneur, you know, you're going to like this one. So, so stay tuned. So hi, Shannon. Hi. Thank you for having me. Absolutely. I know we were talking so much before we even started this whole mic thing. I'm like, oh my God.
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
So that's why you're like, you know what, we got to bring, we got to like rebrand fiber.
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
Yeah.
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
I think that's, I think like I was saying earlier to you, I feel like right now it's all about protein. People are talking about protein, protein, protein, protein. That's all you hear on social media. Eat more protein. It's maybe because also my algorithm is doing it because like I'm old. And so in middle age, like they say, you've got to eat more protein for muscle mass and blah, blah, blah.
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
But there is a massive, there's a massive hole in other macronutrients that are so vital. I remember when I was younger, like when I was like in my, when I was a teenager, I kind of never heard about protein and only heard about fiber, right? Like it was reversed, but like everything comes back around, right? And so I guess I'm going to ask you a question that I'm sure you hear all the time.
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
Like why is BioMe different than Metamucil?
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
Well, you know, it's funny you say that because I think that like for my diet, I seem to eat the same thing over and over again, right? So I'm only getting one source of fiber. Like I eat apples all the time and I eat, let's say asparagus, but I'm not eating as many of the rainbow color vegetables just because you're right, you're busy.
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
So in like, like for example, with something like this, bio meat, is there a difference between the different sources of fiber that you're getting from different fruits and vegetables or isn't fiber just fiber?
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
We had a whole podcast before the podcast. I know. I know. So much to say. So much to say. And this happens all the time. Usually some of the best information gets done before or after the podcast. So I'm like, stop. Don't talk anymore.
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
The soluble fiber helps with the absorption.
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
Okay. So that's interesting. So insoluble fat fiber is what helps you with constipation.
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
Okay. So, cause by the way, when people, every girl I know when they're traveling, especially, they're like constipated. It's, it's, it's, it's literally everybody.
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
I was going to say, maybe that's true. Let me, let me say something else. Everybody I know when they travel, they get constipated, especially on long flights. And it's like to find like a, so like to find something that is a natural way to
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
to poop after traveling as opposed to like, I mean, I don't know about you, but when I get off a plane and like days are going by, like my pants and my, my belly is like so extended. It's horrible.
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
It's very uncomfortable.
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
How long does it take to, like, activate? Like, when does someone take it? If you're traveling. If I'm going on a – if I'm traveling.
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
Okay.
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
That would be a good idea, actually. I think I'm going to like, I'm going to think about getting that, starting to do that. So let's start from like the beginning. I think the first thing I want to tell people is that Shannon was someone who worked on some of the biggest brands. Vital Proteins is one of them. And it was sold for, I think it was the biggest sale in like wellness products.
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
So what else, by the way, you were saying earlier about collagen is really good for your gut health. You said that collagen also helps you a lot with your gut health.
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
I never heard, I didn't know that.
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
Yeah, absolutely. Let's get back to the business side for a second, okay? Yeah. All right. So when you guys, you said earlier how you got the deal flow, right? When you have so many deals because people are looking for money, obviously, to grow their business.
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
And it's different depending on what stage of business you are, right? Like if you're in early stage versus when you were working, like, well, Starshot, which stage are you guys on?
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
Like do you look, are you, are you investing in early stage? Are you?
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
So when you get all this deal flow, what exactly are you looking for as people to invest in? So you said earlier about things that are like hot or emerging. Yeah. Do you find out what's hot and emerging by seeing the amount of the same thing being pitched to you all the time?
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
So that's consumer product packaging. That's like snacks and stuff like that.
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
An energy drink?
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
Right? In history.
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
So right now, what are some trending things that you're seeing a lot of?
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
So I want to talk about that because that's a great hero product to talk about, right?
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
Because I see… And by the way, I don't know if it's because I'm in that space or… of like wellness and longevity if it's just the things that I'm looking at or seeing because it's in my world? Or is that really what the trends are? Because I've seen differences. I pick up on those trends as well.
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
What I've seen in the last two years, the menopause, middle-age women's space has skyrocketed in terms of products, in terms of conversation. And it's become like a juggernaut, I guess in the... the finance industry. There's so much money in it now. The doctors who are talking about it are making a lot of money. They're becoming celebrities in their own way. Hormonal therapy is huge.
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
So all these telemedicine places that are hormone clinics are becoming massive. Peptides are huge. That's what I'm seeing a lot of.
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
So talk about in a very crowded space, right? The first thing is how does a brand, how does a product stick out when there is such... There's such competition. It's so crowded, especially in the health and wellness space. You have a bazillion supplements, a bazillion brands. How does someone create a brand that is... Like, how do you create a product and differentiation in a crowded market?
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
Well, if you want to know the truth, I actually think it's very dangerous because you're fucking with hormones, right? You're screwing with your hormones. And the problem is when something becomes very trendy and there's a lot of money that you can be made, that you can make in this area. Yeah. Thank you. Thank you.
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
Thank you. Thank you.
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
Thank you. Thank you.
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
Thank you.
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
That's great. So was Vital Proteins the first to start that bandwagon of collagen?
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
I agree with you. This is why I like doing this podcast with you because there's different verticals that we can cover that I think a lot of people can get from. Number one, how you took your career and went from being a PR manager to running global marketing for a massive brand. I think that's very inspirational for people who feel stuck in what they're doing.
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
And you're giving the message, the positive message that, you know what? Anything is possible. You work hard, you put yourself where opportunity is, and things will happen. Yeah. And it's not impossible, right? Like you've pivoted in your career from PR manager to global marketing head to now a founder of like a category or a company that like you're reinvigorating a very big area.
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
And I think that to me is very, the evolution of that and how you've done it. I think people are listening. What they should get from that is like, no, nothing is impossible. If you have an idea or a brand or, sorry, or a company or something that you want to like get into the world or bring to market, like there should be nothing stopping you, right? Like there's always a way to do it, right?
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
Like there's listening to podcasts, listening to how like what you got to find out, like what's big and what's kind of trendy, how to create a brand identity, right? How about packaging? How important is packaging for the brand?
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
I think it's really important because I love your packaging.
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
Right, right, right, right, right. No, it's exactly true.
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
So, yeah. Are there certain colors for packaging that work better than others? When you did all of your, right, when you did all of your kind of your, I guess your recon on how to kind of do this, what did you find in terms of packaging? Yeah.
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
Yeah, in the beauty world.
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
Well, isn't there, did you do any research on like color schemes that work, that don't work?
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
So give me some like actual tactile things. Besides, I mean, I love the fact that you had a vision of what you want, But I'm looking for like people who are listening and they're like, okay, I got to package this or that, the other. What are some things that you learned in the process of what colors work better than others?
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
on NSF certification, which means every single batch is tested for heavy metals, harmful additives, and label accuracy. And that's why they're trusted by all 32 NFL teams and top collegiate sports dietitians across the country. Here's the thing.
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
What about, okay. So in terms of when you guys are going through the deal flow, what, when do you, well, only because I want people to get like, yeah. So I want them to get like a good understanding of all these, these different things. Yeah. How do you, how does somebody raise money? When do they come to you, like a venture fund?
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
And when do you guys, like, what are the steps? Like, what do you guys decide besides, okay, you like the product? Are you looking for just sales? How much money they've spent? Like, give me like, in a shark tank moment, what are you guys looking for?
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
Like, that's what I was going to say. What is traditional?
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
I mean, like, yeah, like TV. I'm just trying to think of what people do. Traditional magazine articles, like things like that.
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
And then coming like for the future, do you see – where do you still see gaps in the market? From a product standpoint? From a product standpoint. Oh, goodness.
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
There's so many though. I mean, listen, like there's so many Me Too brands, like there's so many of everything, right? Like again, like no matter, I just, and then one just pops again and you're like, how did that happen? Like in the supplement, like Ritual crushed it.
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
You know, why? Is it because they have a see-through bottle? That's like the, that's the secret. Like why does some brands just like, totally click on Instagram and social media? Is it because it looks visually appealing on social media, right? Because if influencers want to talk about something that looks cool.
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
It's become a crazy situation. Totally. And let's like talk about this for a few minutes and we can, you know, wrap it. But it's like the micro-influencer versus the big mega-influencers because it's still my opinion. You get way more bang for your buck with a micro-influencer.
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
Right? Because their audience is very engaged. And by the way, they're seeing your posts.
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
The bigger you get, less people are seeing your stuff. Because meta, Instagram, they want to charge you, like the person... to boost the post so your audience actually sees your stuff. Yeah. I mean, I can't tell you how many people I see. They're like, oh, I'm going to follow you on Instagram. And I'm like, I give them my stuff. They're like, oh, I do follow you. That happens like a lot, right?
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
I think people only see a very small section of someone's stuff.
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
I find it very interesting. And I think that I've heard a lot of stories from different founders and CEOs of people who spend a lot of money, millions of dollars. So they're like, oh, we're getting this person who has 20 million followers. They're going to talk about our supplement. I'll tell you a story. Okay. One of these very big brands, these very big supplement brands.
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
They spent, yeah, they spent like $5 million on this girl who's very well known, who has, I think she has 19 million followers. And they were so excited. They're like, we're going to make our ROI. We're going to make our return on our investment for sure. She's going to post this many times. She's going to do this and this and this and that. And they paid her a ton.
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
They went way over the money they had, the budget. The girl, not only did it not perform, the performance was so minuscule. I think that it only converted into three or four bottles of the supplement. You're kidding.
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
It was horrible. Wow. And I think this happens more often than not. Invest your money in getting 20 really good micro-influencers, like 10,000 followers and under. Absolutely. And save yourself a lot of money.
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
A hundred percent. I think because a lot of times people who are making the decisions on who to use as the influencers to promote their brand or whatever, aren't the people who are spending the money, right? They are outside agencies who just have a, they have a job and they have like a mandate, find me four people who are wellness and they're not watching the content.
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
So what is the strategy? So let's say Kurt creates Vital Proteins. He comes to you guys because he needs money. How far was he along before you guys came on board to help him grow it?
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
They're not looking at the engagement. And so it can be a problem, right? And it doesn't match. Like It's very interesting to me how when I see it, you want people who are very vulnerable and very authentic, and it's very hard to find. By the way, it's very hard to do that on social media. It's very difficult. Super difficult.
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
Super difficult.
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
you're talking to like a camera.
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
It's so, it's so hard. So, and I guess it's also, yeah, like those are just like little things that I've picked up on from my experiences in business and stuff like that. No, I mean, you're spot on with that.
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
Absolutely. The other thing is find people who actually are using your product authentically or who actually has a need for the product. Yes. Because I find that if you're giving it to someone who doesn't have a need for it or like it or care about it,
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
100% agree with you. Yeah. Okay. Well, I'll let you go now because I've had you here for God knows how long. Sorry, Ed. Poor Ed. He has to sit here and listen to all of this stuff. But okay. Shannon, you are Shannon Race. Like I said, you guys, she's a co-founder of BioMe. Thank you for coming on here.
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
And this was very helpful. I got some information on fiber and gut and I got some information on venture side. It was a nice like smorgasbord of information. And by the way, you know what we forgot to do on this podcast, which I don't know how we forgot because it was sitting right here. Because normally what I do is I do these like magic mind shots on the show.
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
Yeah, because I've had like literally like five. I keep on saying that, but I- You had five today?
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
This is what I do. My normal routine in the morning is I have one before I work out. And then the days I have a podcast, I like end up doing like one. If I have two or three podcasts a day, then I'm having like, you know, so I can't have them. I can't have four. The founder told me don't have more than two, Jen. And meanwhile, I have like three usually.
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
Okay, have one. It's delicious. Have you ever had one? Oh, you told me you've had one.
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
Usually these things taste terrible, but these are very, very tasty. And the ingredients, talk about ingredients being clean. Very good. They're very good. You guys shoot it all back.
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
No, no, no. It's good though. It has a lot of like ashwagandha. It's got a lot of good things in it, but it does help with the focus. However, we just finished the podcast. So maybe you'll be focused the rest of the day.
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
Good. Well, then I'm glad we did at the end, not the beginning. So thank you. All right, so guys, check out... Well, Shannon, are you on Instagram even?
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
I was going to say, aren't you private on Instagram?
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
Yeah, so don't forget. Check out BioMe.
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
If you travel... Don't forget to take BioMe. If you have any kind of gut issue, you need to kind of clean up your gut, BioMe is great. Don't forget to eat your fruits and veggies. And like I said, if you're constipated, sorry, but it's true. Yeah. Try BioMe.
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
Yeah. Bye. Thank you. Oh, by the way, more thing. Guys, I keep on forgetting to say this. Please, please, please leave me comments. Please subscribe if you haven't. It makes a massive difference. I never, ever talk about it, but I always forget, not because of any other reason, but comments really help me know what you guys want to hear about, what you like, what you don't like.
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So please don't be shy. Leave a comment and have a good day. Bye.
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
Well, that's the thing, right? I feel like that's the game now. That's why the wellness brands like AG1, they spend a ton of money. Tons. Probably the most.
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
I don't know, but that, okay. So tell people that, so that's interesting, right? Because then if you are just an online brand, right? You don't have to do going into brick and mortars.
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
Well, tell us the difference. Say, why would somebody stay on, do a business only online versus what's the benefits of being a business online versus going into brick and mortar?
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
Well, I mean, because now, isn't it just all about like the influencer marketing? Like every brand that does very well spends a lot of money on social media. Like it's no longer the traditional way. But what was interesting about Vital Proteins is that they spent a lot of money on getting Jennifer Aniston as a spokesperson.
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
Okay, tell me the story because I'm like, why would a brand like that spend – like, obviously, I didn't know what I was taught. I'm like, how much did you guys pay her? Like, in the 20 million, 50 million?
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
Wow. You went from PR manager to the head of global marketing for Vital Proteins.
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
That's a big jump.
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
And a totally different area too. I mean, they're sisters, but not.
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
Like, how did it happen?
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
Go to LiveMomentous.com and use code Jen for 20% off. Just act now. Start today. Jen for 20% off. LiveMomentous.com. Hi, everybody. Hello. Hello, Shannon. We have you as a guest. We have a great guest, you guys, today. If you're somebody who is an entrepreneur, has a great idea for a business, or has a startup, this is the podcast you should be listening to.
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
Well, how did it happen? Like how did it come full circle? You missed the best part.
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
She uses it, right? How did you convince her to come on board? And why was like, because you said yourself, most celebrity endorsements don't really work that well. You're spending a lot of money on a lot of like nonsense. But for whatever reason, she's one of those celebrities that really moves the needle.
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
What was the deal though? Like give me the details of what the deal would be.
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
Before we dive into today's episode, I want to thank our sponsor, Momentus. When your goal is healthspan, living better and longer, there are very few non-negotiables. One of them, quality. And when it comes to supplements designed for high performers, nobody does it better than Momentus. Momentus goes all in
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
Well, besides Aveeno and Smart Water, I think Vital Proteins.
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
You're right. But did you see the sales skyrocket once Jennifer was on board?
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
And I was like, good, we did our job.
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
You're going to milk it for whatever, for everything.
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
Was it a year? Is it like a multi-year deal?
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
Wow. Did she own a piece of the company? Was that part of the deal too?
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
Right. Yeah. Did you try doing any other celebrity endorsements because that one was successful or?
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
How about regular people who are not athletes?
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
Then how do you help somebody break free from that, like their limited belief? Like what if they don't know it themselves? Like what's the process? Can you walk me through what like the process is to even begin really knowing what's in your subconscious mind?
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
But I've seen some of the work you've done and the things that you talk about, and it's so compelling. Yeah.
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
Wow.
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
But how do you know that? Like if someone, how do you even get into that subconscious? Do you hypnotize them? Is that a way to do it?
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
There's buckets.
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
Thank you.
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
You're welcome. And that, so I wanted to have you on because there's a few little things that I've, I, I caught through social media that like really resonated. And I think my audience will find everything in your work, what you do. Very interesting. Okay. So just like, I never really, like I said, read these things, but just so people can, yeah, just for shits and giggles. Exactly.
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
So ego-threatening is what? How do you define that?
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
Right.
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
Very much so.
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
It must be hard. I mean, I think it's, I would imagine, the reverse engineering of it and making people see things they don't. Don't people easily just revert back to how they were? It's easy to do that.
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
Right. We want to convince ourselves that what we think is actually true. Is that why what the words we say are so important?
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
Okay, it says here, you're a mindset coach, speaker and writer known for your work as a well in personal development, performance optimization and spiritual well being. You're referred to as the mind architect and focuses on helping individuals, athletes, business leaders break free from mental and emotional limitations and reach their full potential. Does that like kind of?
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
Yes. Yeah.
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
I was told the other day something like, even if you're saying something in jest or joking, like, you know, oh God, I'm so dumb because I forgot that. Like your brain doesn't have a sense of humor. So they don't know you're joking if you say the word, I'm so dumb, haha. They just think in that word, I'm so dumb, or just becomes the loop.
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
Right. Oh God. See, this is where I get, I got to really pay attention.
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
So say that again.
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
This is not that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Exactly. I got to really laser focus.
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
Yep.
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
Yes. I'm following you. Yes.
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
Right. So you can't change the foundation. No.
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
Right. And so in your work, you can actually take away that ideology at a foundational level.
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
How? Like you're in a mastermind. I like to know the nitty gritty.
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
It's the attention. Because I feel like, especially on this podcast or like in my life, I'm sure with you too, like you meet a lot of different people, experts in this and experts in that. And they give you this very panoramic, big, you know, overarching ideologies. Yeah. But in real life, it's really hard to kind of act, you know, conceptual.
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
Me too. That's why you're here. I wanted to meet that guy. First, let's start with why do you call yourself or who calls you a mind architect and what is that?
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
I understand what you mean. And so it all stems from an experience or a time in your childhood that you're acting out in adulthood, I guess.
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
Do you notice, are there specific patterns that you see over and over again?
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Okay, what are they then?
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Right, right.
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So then how does that even stop, like, but you were saying even earlier, even with Kobe, for example.
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He became really successful because of a chip on his shoulder that he had to prove, you know, he had to prove that he's not, that he is enough, right? That's what I see all the time, too. I think that's a, that whole thing, if you really, when I talk to a lot of people, that's kind of, when you peel back the layers, that's really what kind of motivates a lot of people, right? Yeah.
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Well, you said something, hold on, I want to like, hold on, I'm going to open this thing up.
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Yeah, that I haven't even looked at. Okay, so like I want to, there was a line, something like, you know, you help people go from where they are to where they think they should be.
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Like, because I think that where we think, like where we think we should be versus where we actually are is why people get so frustrated and depressed and upset because they always think they should have had a different life that they have right now.
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That's, I think, what social media has done, though, too, right?
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Right.
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Oh my God. By the way, am I the only person who talks to you that has to like really listen intently to like, it's not just me.
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Cause it's like, cause you're talking, the way you speak about these things, it's like, you have to pay attention. You can't just like, you can't just like, Just shoot the breeze and talk about what you had at Chipotle. Yeah, exactly. Like thinking about my errands for later.
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I have to be because it's like you're taking it back. But I feel like that's what we do, right? Like no one seems to be happy with where they are. They're always seeking for betterment. Like that's what personal growth really is though, right? Like you want to go from where you are to a better version of yourself to a better version of yourself.
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Should people get high before they listen to this episode? I don't know if that will help, possibly. I think so, because I feel like they can really focus on this.
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To really get it. But it makes perfect sense. But it's just like, you're saying it so matter-of-factly.
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No, it's 100% true. See, I think what I notice, even with myself, it's not that I don't know. People, I think, intellectually or just whatever, they know what they need to eat. They know what they have to do. But it's in the execution that everything falls apart, right? Because life or they rationalize it or these blind spots. And so like how, that to me is what the most interesting thing is.
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predominantly in the mind being as that's the interface between you know our unmanifest self and manifest self so like how did you get into this because i like you talk about a lot about the subconscious and how like we have our limiting beliefs and what we thought of our like it's so deep rooted and that and then we act and our behavior is based on these ideas and thoughts of ourselves that we're not even aware of correct yeah right yeah but you're not a psychologist are you
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It's like, you can see my blind spots, right? I can see your blind spot. If I spent like time with you, like, you know, I would come back and be like, oh, he has this, this, this, and this is his blind spot. Because, you know, I'm a very, then this is probably, you know, I'm hyper, I think I'm observant and critical. I'm very critical.
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
But does that mean if I'm a critical person that really I'm critical of myself?
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And I'm just, you're just mirroring whatever it is that,
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Interesting.
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Yeah, but only with myself. I'm not a perfectionist.
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But I notice everybody's idiosyncrasies. I notice everything, like how someone uses their hands and twitches their foot or how they're looking at me or if they're nodding and what they're thinking. My brain is constantly in a loop of that.
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Control, probably.
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So how do you walk through life then? Are you perfect now?
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Yeah, right.
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That's okay. Yeah. That's a great place to be.
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Right.
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You're pretty chill about that. It's true because you seemed pretty chill when you walked in here. Much more chill than I thought you were going to be. But then again, I barely know you. Because you were telling me about the buckets for women, where the patterns are. What are the buckets and patterns for men that you see a lot?
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So how do you work with someone like that to kind of get over the need to outperform?
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Okay. Well, and the funny thing is most of the people I know who do have that certificate, like are the ones who are the most screwed up.
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Yeah. It sounds like you do a lot of reframing and self-talk. Yeah.
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So what is your background and how did you evolve into being this person that people go to, to kind of get, I guess, like tap into that subconscious? Yeah.
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You know, that now it reminds me of a video I saw that I think was what came up on my feed that you did. Okay. Which was about like love and falling in love.
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Because it was so, that to me, it was like, it was so, the way it was worded was very interesting.
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super uber loving guy doesn't mean i want to spend the rest of my life with everybody but i'm still the source of my love well yeah i think the way it was worded or something was something to the effect that it's not that you were in love with him yes is that you were in love with the way it made you feel the version of you that you became through and with him yeah
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
Right, so you're saying that when we start putting things on the external only, we can't define ourselves or our happiness or sadness based on what's outside.
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Right.
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Freedom. Because everyone wants to feel freedom.
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Right. It's basically like a loop. It's an exhausting loop.
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Because I think also it's like your behavior is a product of what your subconscious thinks. Yes. You're not just acting willy-nilly.
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
Is this like frequency and vibrate?
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So how can you change, and how does someone change that frequency or that energy?
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Amazing.
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What's another prison that you have?
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I'm not lovable? I'm not loved?
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So what would be the shadow of that?
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I'm not liked I'm hated or I'm not lovable.
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Oh, I'm not wanted. Okay.
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Because especially what's going on with everything now, it's madness. And so these things, that's why it's super dangerous of what's happening in our world right now, right? Because it could be something as primal as like a comment and so subtle and no one's even thinking about that stuff.
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Is there an age where these things are really kind of implanted so deeply? Or like, if can you, like, for example, like seven and under is when these things really become super impactful or...
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So when you had your, so for you, for example, and you had your mom die and you had your father die at such a young age, what was your story? Was that like, I'm alone, I'm...
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Right, you went overboard.
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So then how did you course correct?
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Right.
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So you do all these live programs, basically?
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They are. I love this. Come, come to one. When's the next one? March 20th. And do a lot of like, where is it? Where is it at here?
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
And so do you spend the entire time, so you give them some theory?
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Undo it. I'm curious. I'm sure there are people who are listening who may be turning 50 or 40. And I feel like relationships is a biggie, right?
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Because I think it's harder and harder for people to meet people here. Yes. Not just in life. Yes. And with everything, with apps, social media, now AI. Yeah. There's so many people that I think loneliness has become a massive, I think that's the real problem.
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Where did you go to college? Back in London?
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Yeah.
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Is that, that's interesting.
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I do get that.
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So what was it if it wasn't the 50? And if it wasn't the fact that she hasn't had a lot of relationships, what was the reason why she was saying that in the first place?
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Are you serious?
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Well, I totally agree, but this is why I said it earlier about the psychologists, right? I find a lot of times people are not comfortable of just being authentic. The word authentic is thrown around all the time. Authenticity, all these things. It's great hashtags, but the truth is nobody's really comfortable in just being who they are.
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Being completely honest.
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Just being different because different is not, for whatever reason, it's not accepted. People think it's not accepted. But the truth is, I think the more different you are, the more actually you're more likable, not less likable.
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all of it is becoming worse and worse because social media, comparing yourself to some other life that doesn't even actually really even exist. And people are using these all and they're becoming worse. And even though going on social media is why they're depressed, they can't seem to take themselves off because they need it as a distraction away from their own life.
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I mean, I'm going to actually listen to this podcast myself to make sure I understand. So I can like, you know, get like the whole thing. So when you, I just want to go back to you for a second. Sure. Because when you did that movie, Heal, the documentary.
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So what was that? What were you considering? What kind of expert were you in that?
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Yeah.
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A meat suit, did you call it?
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Were you a tennis player?
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So then they have to stop doing certain behaviors and saying certain things to themselves.
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Don't do that. Right.
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And that's why willpower is that never works anyway. It's a muscle that will get tired.
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Do you believe in like that? I said it earlier, like hypnosis or breath work or any type of like, how about like psychedelics to get you into that place in your head?
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It's hard.
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Yeah, no kidding.
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Yes, I know all about it.
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And so, yeah, I do understand.
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
So in this new dimension, but how many of the people that you work with fall back into old patterns, old routines?
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
Okay, I have a friend, oh my God, a couple weeks ago, I was out for dinner, and I'm like, I gotta go, I have to put my kids to bed. And he told me this whole big thing about how he has this spiritual advisor who said to him that he, and then he relates to me, he's like, oh no, Jennifer, you can't say you have to put your kids to bed. You have to say, I get to put my kids together.
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I'm like, so like this language, I find like it all sounds dandy and fine, but it feels very contrived and weird.
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So I'm like, okay, well, I got to leave because I get to put my children to bed or whatever.
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It's like a whole different language that you have to learn.
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Well, he's embodying it, but when he says it to me, it feels very...
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And also now I just mock him. I'm like, every time he calls me, I'm like, oh... I get to. I get to do the chores I have to do.
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Yeah, I get to do the dishes.
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Okay. You look amazing. You're 55? Yeah. What are you? Okay. That's a whole other podcast altogether.
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I know. I guess like you don't know me at all. I understand that. But like I laugh about a lot of people who, and maybe that you're going to say because I'm overly critical perhaps, but about manifestation. Like I'm manifesting this.
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Yeah, the spiritual world of woo-woo.
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Yeah, woo-woo. And I'm like the anti-woo-woo.
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Yes, you're super practical. I'm super practical. Yeah, same. I'm a Virgo. I'm a Virgo too.
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When's your birthday?
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September 10th.
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september 16th okay so yeah i'm a for and i like things that are like you know practical yeah like yeah i'm not gonna like just think myself into getting what i want you know i'm gonna chase what i want yes and then so then the manifestation people like you don't chase you wait you you hold space and it comes to you but so for me it's always both Okay, so how does it work?
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You do not look 55.
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Yes, and I believe in that.
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That's amazing. You look much younger.
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Right, right. So you think it's a combination of both.
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Yeah, that's, okay, I want to get into all that stuff later because it's really incredible that you've obviously maintained your youth very well. So then you've been here for like many years, like 25 years or so, 30 years. Yeah, yeah. So you were like in movies and like you were helping people.
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But like, because you seem very much, because I was actually very nervous, but I started this podcast by saying I was a little nervous because before I met you, because I thought you were going to be way more woo-woo.
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You're like, you seem to be like very much...
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Yes, 100% agree.
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It really is.
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But why is that? Because she let go of all the-
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Right. So it manifests physically.
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Yeah, it's a continuum. I would agree with that for sure.
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I understand because my background is fitness and like we start, like if you start doing things physically, it does make a big difference in the mental performance, like mental strength, physical strength. It's all kind of. Absolutely.
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That's physics. Hold on. I think I have another question. Just want to make sure before I... Hold on a minute because I don't want to... I mean, that's where Wayne Dyer had a great quote.
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I love that. Yeah.
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It's because you have a new view.
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I like that. It's so true. It is so true.
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Really?
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Right, right, right, right.
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She changes the pattern herself because she's otherwise living it over and over again until you learn it for yourself.
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But you follow yourself wherever you go.
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Seeing is believing.
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I love your wordsmithing or your analogies or your word stuff.
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Because it's not what I normally talk about, right? And I have to just kind of pay attention. I can't just interject with something because it's...
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cash this one in and just yeah i cannot i cannot cash this one i gotta be like well good i'm glad that you're on your your a game i i have to be i mean it's a lot it's a lot yeah i because i know you um like i'm trying to think of some what do people ask you about like layman's people like me that what's the most common question that they would ask you
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Give me one question in each that they ask the most.
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Okay, you don't, this is great. I was called for Tom Cruise many, many years ago, but are you a Scientologist?
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
It's much easier.
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
Because he was only hiring it at some point, like only Scientologist.
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
Right. Is that always, though, the way it is?
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
Jesus. I mean, I'm telling you, I need a hard drink after I speak to you. I don't even drink. Does everybody say this to you? Like, who are you friends with? Like, who are your friends? Are your friends like you?
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
So wait, so what movies did you do for him?
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
But do you have most of your friends that you hang out with, do they think at your level of closeness?
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
Okay, I want to know. By the way, Mission Impossible is my favorite movie of all time. All of them. The whole series.
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
So you're not even, you can't even say create because that means that you're thinking that you don't have the, it's not there in the first place.
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
exactly well that's the thing like i'm thinking like okay what am i doing to my like what am i doing in my life that's holding me back that i'm not even aware of yes yeah right yeah and you will be and that's okay you're human right and like where am i blind like i think that oh i'm so so i think oh my eq is so great like oh but i know my blind spots but as i'm talking to you i'm like i bet you there's so many things that i have no idea i'm a total mess
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
A total mess.
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
And I don't even know it. I was feeling great before Peter Crane.
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
I was, I felt, I was super confident.
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
Yeah.
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
Yeah. I think a lot of people would probably fit into that bucket. I think you're right. I think we put a lot of pressure on ourselves.
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
No, but you're right. I've done a thing on, first of all, just to kind of let you know, I have a 50-50 split, like a lot of my audience is men. Okay, cool. So that's the first thing. But I was going to say, I've done other people's podcasts, not on this podcast so much, where I talk about that. Yeah. Where I find that a lot of times if you're a strong woman or you're successful,
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
But I think that a lot of women are single who are very successful because they, unfortunately, they're either too much in that masculine energy, but they don't see that, right? And then they put on this facade like, oh, I don't need a man or I don't want a man. And that becomes their playbook. That becomes their talk, right? And the guy that they actually want, want a girl who's more feminine and
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
And so it becomes this very, very difficult dance that happens.
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
But like, to me, that's like that. I think that's what happens, unfortunately.
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
You know, it becomes competitive.
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
Totally.
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
That's why people who are like, for women anyway, you need to have a guy who's like super, like truly confident, who is truly like, it's like that they're not intimidated by you, that they're not like, they don't feel like you're emasculating them because of your
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
But I'd say there's like a lot of guys who actually like it and like rather have a girl who's like that. But there is like a body of men who like that's what they're not. They don't need another dude. They don't need to like be dating another dude. No. Right? They want to have someone who has the softness. Yeah. And I talk about this all the time with people, like all the time because it's...
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
That's huge because he's like the most intense of, I would imagine, you know more than I would. Was he as intense, I should ask you, as his reputation says?
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
I know I got to wrap this up here.
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
I think so. I think once anything is out in the open, you become more vulnerable. That's attractive also, right?
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
Yeah, it really is.
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
I think so. Oh, my God. Well, Peter, thank you for being here. I know you're moving away. I won't say where. Is it like a secret?
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
Yes, it is.
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
Okay, good. Well, I'm not going to say where it is. He's going to Mars. No, I'm sorry. So I really do appreciate you coming on this before you leave town. When did you leave?
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
I want to come to one of them. I want to see you in action. I want to see you do these things.
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
100% it will.
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
And I can see that you're good at it because it comes naturally for you. I think it's a gift that obviously you have, right? You pick up on something and then you just kind of keep on going with it. And I'm sure you've done, I can imagine, you probably really helped a lot of people. Yeah.
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
I like that. And freedom. I love it all. Where can people find your Instagram is the best place to see you?
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
Oh, thank you, Peter.
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
Oh, yes, exactly. Pleasure is all mine. Thank you. Bye.
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
Did you have to be on clock like 24-7 because he would train like 3 o'clock in the morning if he wanted to?
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
Oh, it is relevant now. I'll tell you why it's relevant because I think that in my experience, my life, I have a background similar to you then. But that leads, like, those opportunities that you create for yourself or that happen upon you, whatever, it's what you do with them, right?
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
And it's a great, you can leverage things into different possibilities and opportunities from having these experiences. And I think that, like, when you're with people who are, like, high performers, this is my, you can cut me off if you'd like, but, and you start in one realm, it automatically works.
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
Like it seeps into all sorts of different like performance in different realms because everything is connected.
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
So what was the first thing that you did that kind of took on a life, like took on a new life?
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
So right, because you talk so much about, it's all about like limiting beliefs. Like at what point in your mind or have you seen where talent takes you so far and then it comes into like if you actually think you can or the mindset you have or the limiting belief that you can.
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
Like in all your experience that you just said, what is that one thing that holds one person back and allows the other person to thrive and go so much further, even if that other person had more talent?
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
Yeah, it does.
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
I heard you say that, actually. I saw that clip that you talked about that, and I'm so fascinated by this because it's 100% true. And this is the pool that you play in. So we could do a whole hour just on that. It's always the people who are the smartest who... who are, sometimes they overthink their way into analysis paralysis, right?
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
And that's why I think sometimes people who are the, I hate to say it, but like the more, less intelligent or people who aren't that smart get way further in life because they have nothing holding them back. They're like, why not? I'll just go for it, right? Versus the people they overthink, they analyze, their brain becomes their prison, right?
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
Guys, today we have Peter Krohn on the podcast, and I'm nervous about this one. I actually really am. I was going to say that before we started rolling, because you talk so much about subconscious and conscious and language that I... It's hard for me and my personality to kind of grasp and understand, right?
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
That's 100% true.
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
Almost everybody I know, and by the way, besides me, because I'm like super scared of hormone therapy, but every guy I know over the age of let's say 40 is now being supplemented by testosterone and all these things. And they're like, wow, I never felt better. I never looked as good. I'm leaner than ever. And they're putting them on lots of other things too. They're microdosing GLP-1s.
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
They're doing all sorts of shit. And they think that this makes them super healthy because their inflammation is getting lower, all these things. And my spidey sense tells me that is not the right thing. There can't be a world where everybody now is now being over-supplemented with stuff to look good for the moment. There has to be some kind of backlash somewhere else.
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
No, I'm a PhD. I'm kidding, I'm kidding. I never play a doctor. Do you say this because you think you're going to get in trouble?
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
I mean, you probably have a lot, but you're a PhD, you're a professor, and you do a lot of research on this constantly.
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
But you're not a medical doctor. Okay, fine. Good.
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
or anything like that.
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
How do you, how do you resolve it though?
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
Okay. So like the core, I get the stressors, but like, does that mean if you're doing, so that's confusing because they always say, well, if you like doing legs, like if you're doing a lot of strength training for your legs, your testosterone will go up, right? Is that not true?
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
Okay, but you're saying, though, is that a myth that if you do heavy leg workouts, it will increase your testosterone?
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
So then what, because I also, okay, maybe this is just my own myth, but because like someone like me who works out super hard, like it's like high intense a lot. Like I like to, you're going to hate this, but I love to run. I like to do things that make me sweat, make me feel psychologically like I've done something.
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
Which then I feel like, I mean, this is my own self-diagnosis, but then I have adrenal fatigue or my cortisol is always really high. Would that make my testosterone extra low because it's constant for many, many years of constant banging on my body like that?
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
Yes.
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
So some people can work fine and no problem. And then other people, so how do you know? What are some symptoms of cortisol dysfunction then?
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
So what's the solution? What do you tell people to do?
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
There's no way. Because if you work with high performers on the regular, you know that's not even an option for your brain, right? It's not, right? There's no chance in hell that I would not work out for two weeks just because my brain would be shut off. No, I didn't say it didn't work out. Okay. Just do some basic walking? No, no, no, no, no, no. Okay.
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
I mean, me personally? I don't know. That's all we're talking about here, right?
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
Because overtraining is a real thing, right? So it sounds to me like cortisol dysfunction is very similar to overtraining, really.
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
Okay. I'm glad I'm unique.
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
No, no, no, yeah. Yeah. Because other things happen, right? Not just me, by the way. A lot of people, their mental health takes a nosedive, right? Because then they lose the motivation, the focus, the productivity, your mood. If I don't work out or if I don't do some kind of cardio first thing, even though I know cardio, blah, blah, blah. I know strength training is like the king.
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
But if I don't do cardio, my brain just doesn't turn on the same way.
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
So you work, because I saw that you do like every modality of sports. You do like baseball players, wrestlers, UFC people, like Olympians of all kinds. So my first question then is like, if it's physiology that you're looking at, then it really is individual, right? It's all very personalized, right? It can't just be a one-for-all type of situation.
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
Right. It's like more of a distraction. No question.
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
So a lot of this is mental. In your particular case. No, no, no. I'm saying, but I think it is. I think a lot of people who exercise a lot, maybe at a high intensity, or it's more of an addiction, maybe because it's a distraction, right?
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
To something else that needs to be managed and taken care of.
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
And the second thing is, does that mean that genetics actually matter for someone's human performance? Well, we'll go backwards.
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
Thank you.
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
Thank you.
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
So talent supersedes everything, really? Starting point. Okay.
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
Thank you. Thank you.
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
Thank you.
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
And it's basically a healthy shot to help you with your focus and being alert. And since you're a high performance guy, I thought of all the people I should be doing this shot with, it is you. Oh my goodness. Yeah, because, you know, hold on, you guys shake it first. And then we like, you know, we open around with cheers. And then of course, we do it. Yeah. Can you shake it though?
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
By the way, again, I used to wear those trackers and all the things. And honestly, it gives you more anxiety because you're checking everything all the time. You're checking your sleep. Did I sleep okay? Did I not sleep okay? Did I sleep too high, too little by REM? So many of these things actually make your health worse, not better.
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
I have one more question about strength, then I want to move on to nutrition. Okay, but so like, is there a particular, are there training mistakes that people are making or like the do's and don'ts of training? And because, you know, people who are like middle, like, you know, 40s, 50s, is strength training the, would you say is the number one, I guess, exercise modality?
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
Because when I said, the reason I'm asking you this is because when I said I have to do cardio in the morning, you're like, oh, that's okay. Most people who I would ask that to would be like, oh my God, no, you're like breaking down your muscles. You should be doing strength training only. They go through this whole thing of like, they cardio shame me, right? Oh, no.
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
And so you didn't do that and you're the scientist behind it. So would you say that it's cardio okay? Yeah.
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
No, you didn't do that.
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
I'm saying you did the opposite.
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
Oh yeah. Well, people say that like, you know, you're like that you can cardio can break cardio breaks down your muscle mass, especially as you age, it makes you hungrier, which it does. That's true. Also it's a stressor, which it is.
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
What if you want to do all of that, but also look good? No, I got you. I got you.
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
So it's more about energy expenditure.
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
I've heard of that before. Did this other guy create that program?
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
So running is basically the worst in terms of breaking down your muscle.
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
See, I think, so I thought like, okay, if I'm running like three or four miles a day, let's say, you know, for 40, 45 minutes, that's not as bad as like, when I look at endurance runners or people who are running like 10 miles plus or like. Oh yeah. Like running like.
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
50, 100, yeah. You look at them and I hate to say it, but they do look like flabby skinny fat. You know, they don't have the aesthetics that I think that most people are trying to get. They may be thin. Yeah. But they're not toned. So how do I get, what's the delicate balance then? You're saying there is no delicate balance?
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
Oh, it has. Okay. Because someone else pitched me who wrote a book called Arete. Do you know the guy I'm talking about?
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
Because also you're saying because A, because it's energy expenditure, right? There's always so much energy you can put. It's true. Because what happens is there's only time in the day, right? So if you're doing too much cardio, you're not leaving enough time in terms of time, energy to put it. Because what I'll do is I'll run and be like, oh, I'll do my weights later. And then- it always suffers.
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
I'll do like 10 minutes.
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
Exactly. I'll do it, but not as hard as I would have if I didn't. Right.
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
Oh, okay. Because I saw that on your website. I was like, what the hell is this?
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
Does there, is there any kind of physiological difference between doing cardio first or strength?
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
There is myths on that too.
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was a mindset guy. Okay. Yeah, yeah.
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
That makes perfect sense to me, right? Because these UFC fighters, boxers, whoever, they're doing their fights at night. So they also have to be the most optimal at night.
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
That makes perfect sense.
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
So even an NBA player, LeBron or whoever, are they doing their heaviest or their most intense workouts late in the day because of that reason?
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
And so your energy expenditure has to go in that game.
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Yeah. Like you can see them. They're not, they don't look like they're like the most, uh, you know, prowess looking athletes of all time.
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
But that makes perfect sense. So like a regular person who like works a normal day, probably then just by based on what you're saying, working out first thing in the morning or in the morning should be their highest. That's when they're going to have the most energy.
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
Well, because by the way, like at three o'clock in the afternoon, if you go ask me to have my best workout, I'll be very tired.
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
You really? But you're not an NBA star, are you?
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
What time do you wake up?
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
Why is your morning routine four hours also?
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
Okay. What is your, okay. I want to ask you about that.
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
Okay.
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Yeah.
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
Normally when you have little kids, you wake up earlier.
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
Right. Okay. Okay.
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
That's what it means. Okay. I didn't even know that. I didn't get that far. Yeah.
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
So wait, so how is that possible? If you're waking up so early, aren't you depleted though by two o'clock?
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
But why? How is that possible? What time are you going to bed at night?
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
So then that kind of just takes the whole thing about working. If you're someone who is, is like fighting, let's say at night training, you know, later on in the day is really important because that's when you have to have your optimal energy or an NBA player, whatever.
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
But if you're going to bed at eight o'clock, like a granny, wouldn't you think that you're going to have more energy, like at 10 o'clock in the morning?
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
So that's where you're putting your energy expenditure. Okay, so what's your morning routine?
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
Significantly later. How old are your kids?
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Oh, okay, so yeah.
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
To accommodate that.
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
So really your only big thing is you want to like have fresh air or outdoor stuff.
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Right.
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
So you're into, okay, so breakfast. So let's get into the nutrition. Okay, but did I even, did we finish the training and the training mistakes?
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
That was good, right? Yeah. Is there any particular big mistake that people make?
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
So lack of structure is one huge training mistake people make. And then moving from program to program or thing to thing randomly. Yep. What about plateauing? Because that's how people plateau or is it completely different? Because how... I find that's a problem. Like if you're someone who works out regularly at a moderate to intense level, you do plateau or you're just maintaining.
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How can you break through a plateau?
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
Can you give me a Cool's Notes version of two and a half hours, please?
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
Yeah, even two minutes is fine.
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
Well, that's the problem. Also, you know, that's exactly because it's so incredibly difficult to lose two pounds of body fat, but it's so easy to lose 30 pounds, right? Sure. Right? Isn't that like the biggest loser whole thing, right? Of course. Remember this show, The Biggest Loser? They lost 40 pounds in the first week, right? Sure.
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
But when you get down to the nitty gritty, those like the minute minutiae, like... For someone like me to lose a pound of fat is so much more, you have to be so precise in everything you do because you're already doing so much, right?
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
Right?
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
So like even people with all these things we're talking about, right? With the red light, the this, the supplements. Yeah, like if you're doing everything, it's hard to know what works, what doesn't work, how much everything is working because you're doing everything.
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
Right? Right.
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
Exactly.
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
How important then is recovery to then the plateau?
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
Okay, so here's my question for you. I wrote it down. Let me just make sure I didn't. So like for the recovery, yeah, what's the most critical components of recovery that people overlook?
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
Right. But like you were saying earlier too, a lot of that, a lot of sleep unfortunately is about like other stressors in your life. If you have a lot of other stressors in your life, it will affect your sleep. It's hard not to.
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
Yeah, I thought it was menopause or whatever. It was like, it could be everything.
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
Well, you mentioned something on a podcast about an environmental scanner.
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
What is it? What is this thing though? What's the scanner?
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
Can someone just use this scanner?
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
How expensive is it?
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
More than $15?
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
So you can't just get the environmental scanner. Damn, I thought you can just buy one.
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
Really?
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
Yeah, I know, I know, I know. I'm just thinking that. So basically, so when someone comes into your office or your lab or whatever, your facility, do you have a facility?
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
Like how? Like, you know, blue light, you know, and if you go, like, you know, when you go in the hotel room, you see all that shit that you see with the blue light. Totally. Is it the same thing?
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
It's like the genetic test, right? People then over-focus on that stuff.
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
Wow. My God. Okay.
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
So it's basically telemedicine type of thing?
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
Yours is much more green than mine. It's a different batch, I guess. Do you like it?
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
Okay, so let's say, because I've had a ton of people come over and like take a ton of blood for me, right? Like all those blood. And everyone now has like, it's like now who can take the most blood? Like how many markers can someone test? It was like 50. Now it's 75. Now it's 180. We take a lot more than that.
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
So my first question is, well, I've had my first question, my eighth question by now, but how many markers do you check for when you do your blood? Like when you test for someone, what are the most important markers?
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
Because what I heard you once say, which I found very interesting, kind of one of the reasons why I wanted to have you on the show is that you're saying that when you get people's results, You don't even do things based on that necessarily. So that to me was very interesting. Like how do you then give someone a program if it's not even based on what their results are off of the blood work?
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
I found that very interesting.
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
Like me, let's say I call you up, like a regular person who's been working out a long time, who's pretty high up there in terms of like my fitness level and my regimen and various structured routine. But I want to be optimal. I want to be, right?
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
No, no, no. Horrible.
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
Horrible. So that's why I like this one. But now you're going to tell me at the end of the podcast if it helped you at all. And I want you to be honest.
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
Okay, so you guys, we have today Dr. Andy Galpin, who is a human performance scientist. I got that right, right? Yeah, nailed it. I love that. I want you to, before we even start, but before I even get into that, let's just do our quick healthy shot. We do this on the podcast. We take this, we take a shot. I've had like a hundred of them. And it's basically, it's by a company called Magic Mind.
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
Oh my gosh. No, no, no. Okay. First of all, like number one, like I said, before we even started rolling, I was really excited to have you on the show because you go so into the weeds. You're very science-based, obviously. You're a professor. You've worked with like literally every single athlete on the planet. because you are a high performance scientist. But what is that?
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
What?
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
Right. So then what do you do? How do you take into consideration all these other things? You have to go next level. Okay.
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
And it could just be as simple as just being dehydrated.
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
Right. So I was going to say, because if like for an example, right, if I'm feeling kind of lethargic and tired, I was getting over a flu or whatever, flying, whatever it was, and then I got my blood taken, my markers will be very different that time than it would be in a week's time.
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
Like, what is the, because when I was reading your bio without, I mean, I did my own kind of like knowledge and research, but then when I got your bio, it gave me all these, like all these things you have, like your PhD and all that. What is a high performance scientist?
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
Well, what I find interesting, again, is that especially in the last few years, I feel a lot of this telemedicine, a lot of these clinics have popped up. And if testosterone's low, right, they just automatically put you on testosterone. They automatically give you hormone therapy.
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
We have a very special and different guest today on the podcast. We have Captain Jason Chambers. He is the captain of the ship on Below Deck, which is a massive hit on Bravo. Most of you guys probably watch it. I think I'm probably the only person who doesn't watch the show. right? Like I met just, just kind of like give you some like background.
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
Wow. Yeah, it's been fun. Have you ever done TV before?
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
I was going to say that, you know, I saw it yesterday in the green room because they were promoing me coming up next or whatever. And so they promoed both of us, I guess. And you were wearing this like wet t-shirt or something coming out of the boat. And they were like, oh, the sexiest man on Bravo, which is a whole other thing. So how did you get this whole sexiest man on React? No comment.
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
No, no, no, no, no. Jason, you're on this podcast. You have to tell me.
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
Well, who called you this? Is it just some name that you, like the Bravo executives decided to call you?
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
Or is it all the women who are constantly asking about you or like?
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
Are you serious? I'm asking.
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
You know what it is? That's probably why they like you and why they think you're sexy is because you have like a humility to you. That's what's actually what's sexy about you.
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
Well, you being like this right now is actually sexy. And I'm not hitting on you. I'm just saying. I'm not. I'm not hitting on him. I'm just saying because if you were this arrogant guy who was like coming out here and trying to be all like, you know, thinking that you're like this hot thing. That's unattractive. That's a turnoff.
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
But if you're like, oh, shucks, come on, like all this humility, try and do all these nice things with these kids. I mean, that's why the ladies like you. I could totally understand, right? Bravo executive over here, right?
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
Yeah. Are you doing all the shirt? So like, what is all, I haven't seen them, but like, are you doing like billboards with your shirt off?
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
But wait, wait, wait. You're like, you're brushing off this whole like sexiest man on reality TV thing. So like, do you get DMs from women like all day, all night?
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
But you do, basically.
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
And so I'm going to ask the Bravo lady. So how did you decide that Jason was going to be the sexiest man on Bravo? Is it because you guys just noticed the influx of women who are constantly asking about him versus anybody else on the show? Well, is that really how? Yeah. But, like, who else do you guys even have on Bravo?
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
No, no, who else? What other guys are on Bravo that are, like, a big name?
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
I met Jason yesterday in the green room at California live. I was doing a segment on parenting and raising, you know, resilient children. And Jason was in, uh, the green room and I figured why not get him on my podcast, even though in full transparency, I've never watched the show, but like, I do know it is a very popular show. So anyway, thank you for being here.
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
Most of them are, like, just, like, you know, women who are... Like the whole package, right? And so then you just kind of create this whole thing around it. I'm leaning in. You're leaning in. Okay, I like that. And he's embarrassed, which makes it even better and all the other things.
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
Yeah, exactly. How many people watch Below Deck? What's the numbers? I think...
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
Why 30 people? Is 30 people for that type of size boat a normal size crew?
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
So the crew is who, the captain?
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
Okay, no, no, no, not the TV people, just in general.
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
And because you're also enclosed in such a small environment, there must be a lot of drama and relationships that actually form. You said earlier that the mom of your daughter was the chef?
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
But was she a chef for another boat?
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
But you guys never met on a boat together? No, no. That was just a coincidence.
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
Oh, because you're friends with a lot of the same people who are crew.
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
Right. That's crazy. I mean, that's a small quarters to be with. Have you ever had any relationships with people in your crew ever?
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
On Bravo? No, not on Bravo.
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
What's your day-to-day look like? Break it down. Walk me through what a day in the life of a captain would be.
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
Oh, I love that. So that's, yeah. So basically I was like doing the segment and then Jason pulls out his phone and showed me all these amazing cute pictures of his daughter who loves to climb trees. And basically what we, I think we bonded on the fact that tech like on the West or in the West, you know, Western civilization, the U S people are just stuck on their phones and on social media and,
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
What time do you guys wake up? For a Bravo, when you're filming for Bravo.
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
Right, right, right. You know. How do you guys have like, because, you know, you're out in the, you know, you're out in the outdoors, but how do you maintain like a healthy life? Like you obviously said that you really care about before even off camera, like longevity and health and wellness. And we're going to get into your whole story.
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
is it hard to take care of your health when you're like confined to like a boat underneath and you have to do a certain structured schedule? Like you, like there's not much time to kind of like even have like, if you have like downtime, are you stuck going to your room or like, are you allowed to like wander around the boat? Like what happens? Yeah.
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
What are your habits? What do you do every day?
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
That's fair. Do you stretch for half an hour?
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
He was on here too.
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
I like Wim Hof. He's very nice.
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
It is. Yeah. So wait, because you said earlier too, your daughter lives in Bali. Now you live in Bali. But you said you didn't see her for a year.
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
And basically being bored or playing outside has become null and void. And so when you said to me about your daughter, how she's like the antithesis, like living and growing up in Bali, which we'll get into, is completely different. There's no such thing as that type of lifestyle.
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
Is it because your schedule with the- I was sort of COVID.
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
But normally that's not the case.
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
So how do you have like a regular, how do you have a life with like anybody?
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
Also, how does anyone have a relationship or have kids?
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
Because there's a lot of time away. There's no consistency in terms of spending time.
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
Well, there's no rhythm.
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
There's no rhythm. Like it's constantly like upheaval and like, you know, growing apart. And then you come back and it's like, they already went on with their lives a little bit. And then you're kind of, so how do you, even with the kid, like you, what I think is amazing.
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
And I noticed this yesterday when we met is like any moment you can mention your daughter, you do like, you love your child so much, which is like beautiful. I love that. It must be really hard to be away from her like that much. Yeah.
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
Yeah.
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
Is that what you do on the boat? Because you can tell me about that.
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
Thank you.
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
Thank you. Thank you.
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
Thank you.
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
This case, I want to get all into what you do also with the charity, with your daughter. But let's start from the beginning. Okay, so you're a captain on this boat. And so how long were you a captain before you became a captain on this big show?
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
Thank you.
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
Thank you.
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
So wasn't there, okay, now you're gonna see how completely, I'm gonna sound like a complete idiot. I remember looking at, watching commercials and there was a man who had like a beard and he had a gray hair. He looked like he was like much older as the captain. Was that like a different show?
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
Wow, I love that.
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
She did not want to?
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What a beautiful lesson that you just taught your child.
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
I think it's... So she has gratitude just from having that environment. What's amazing to me is just the difference in terms of just where you raised your child, how they grow up, in terms of their mentality, their... needs, their desires, like, like because she never stepped foot here in America, right? She doesn't know from, from all this.
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
She doesn't know from the fact that every kid here is stuck on their, on their phone and they won't play outside or they don't do play dates or they are on social media. Like they're not doing that back there. Yeah.
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
How much do you give her the iPad?
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
Oh, okay. But you regulate it and you monitor it.
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No, they should. That's an imagination.
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
We do have, I mean, entrepreneurs do have it. You have to have, well, that's because, well, I mean, this is how the whole thing, like I believe that we need to be bored sometimes. And when we were kids, I was always bored, but that's where I believe, you know, boredom kind of breeds brilliance in a way, right? Because that's where creativity lives. That's where you think of different things.
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
Like if you're not bored and you're constantly distracted all the time, you're never going to get those light bulb, like those moments of genius. Yeah.
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
Exactly. So then if you're doing this stuff, like, you know, with the show six weeks on, whatever, and then you do your pickups, how do you spend the rest of your time?
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
How old is your father?
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
Did they actually diagnose him with Alzheimer's? Yeah. How did they know? Did they do an MRI and scan his brain?
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
How many versions of the show is there?
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
So you're doing, do you have a coach or you're coaching?
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
So this is, so it's funny, the podcast is called Habits and Hustle, right? For a reason, right? Because it's basically the habits and hustle of like the most successful people and the best experts and how they got from place A to place to point A to point B. So we talk a lot.
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
I'm in place A. Well, next time you'll be here, you'll be at place B and then C. But what I talk about, my entire platform is really based around discipline. You rely on discipline. You don't rely on motivation because motivation wanes. So does willpower to muscle. Yeah. It doesn't, it doesn't last. So discipline is how you get from A to B and being consistent is, it's not about talent.
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
It's really about being consistent day to day. It's not the most intense, but it's the most often like that. And it's also the most boring stuff, right? Like doing the same things day in, day out gives you that mindset of, you know, of, of being accountable to yourself.
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
Well, it's routine, right?
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
No, it's definitely not just saying it.
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
But you have to make habits. Like, that's why, you know, people laugh at me because I'm very regimented. But if you're not to a certain degree regimented, things don't get done, right? Like, if you have goals, you have to have some type of plan and you've got to execute on that plan or things will just like, you know, maybe it can happen, maybe it won't, right? Right.
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
But with your lifestyle, you have a very, very, like it's an all over the place lifestyle, right? Like you're on a boat, then you're not on a boat. It's like you may have work, you may not have work.
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
Have you ever tried this creatine?
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
Oh, the magic mind. By the way, we totally forgot about this. We have to do this shot. Normally we do this at the beginning of the podcast, and I've had like a lot of these today.
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
Okay. But so it kind of, it's kind of like the Real Housewives basically, right? Like, well, no, only because it was a popular show. And so then they did, you know, Housewives of Beverly Hills, Housewives of Orange County, Housewives of New Jersey and like, and they, and on and on and on.
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
I know it does. And the ingredients, I wouldn't be even doing these shots if it didn't work. I've tried tons of these different types, and this one is by far the ingredients are the best. Try it. Oh, cheers. Okay.
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
Really? Did you shake it enough?
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
Yeah. I've got to shake it and then now you're going to be super focused for someone else's podcast.
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
I will, I will definitely set you up with them because this is a great company. Also creatine. Have you tried this? I love the momentous creatine. It'd be perfect for you because they do these travels. Now I'm going to show you. They're like, you can take it with you and you can just, there's, there are individual packs. Do you do creatine?
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
Good. So like these are the things, like these are like habits that you can get into that are healthy.
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
Like these little travel packs. Do you do any kind of other wellness modalities? Like do you do red light? Do you do the sauna? Do you do all those things?
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
You mean infrared sauna or?
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
You've never tried it before?
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
Well, it's, I'm going to, I'm going to, you're going to leave here today with like so many like wellness gifts because I love this thing. It's called the tri-light red light. It's a, it's a red light by this company called Therasage who has like, in my opinion, the best red light, but I travel with it and you can like, it's like a, a panel and And then you can put it wherever. Perfect.
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
So you can put it on your leg. You can put it on your face.
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
Did you get nauseous with the NAD?
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
How long did it take?
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
Yeah, I mean, like, that's actually a lot. Well, if it takes, like, if you, you know, if you do it really, really fast, I get so nauseous on those things.
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
Right. I mean, I think tequilas would be better than the shot. But are you a drinker then? Because you are from... I do.
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
Right. So, yeah, because I think drinking, in my opinion, is like the number one most terrible thing you can do for your body.
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
I like steak. Steak's good. That's protein.
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
Can you have it with something else, like a carbonated water?
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
Nootropics is usually like a brain supplement of some kind.
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
So it mimics the drink.
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
There's so much of the stuff. I mean, it's so overwhelming. This is now like, this is my life. And every day I'm like noticing, I'm getting, I'm talking. I mean, it's like, there's so much of all of this.
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
So you're actually a real captain on the show. It's not just bullshit that you're just, you're not just playing a captain on TV.
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
Oh, so you are doing a lot of side hustles.
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
Yeah. So yeah. Well, I usually do. Bravo needs to pay you more apparently.
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
Wow. Where are you going to sell it?
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
Have you not promoted this at all yet? No. Are you going to have someone try to get it into the department stores? No.
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
Who's making it? Does someone come to you and say, hey?
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
It's all you?
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
Who paid for all the manufacturing?
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
Really? Do you have an agent?
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
You don't have an agent or anything. So it's just basically like you going out there and like making your own deals. Yeah. Wow. Do you think maybe you should get an agent or? Don't know. Really?
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
I'm going to give you some business 101.
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
You're on a big reality show. This is my little like, you're on a major, major reality show on Bravo. The women obviously really like you according to Bravo. Why would you not get an agent to find you some like endorsement deals? and some speaking gigs.
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
I mean, I would think, I mean, I think that would be like a, that would be the next evolution of your career.
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
You're just like a captain of a boat and like this whole thing just happened.
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
So wait a minute. So no agent has reached out to you. No manager.
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
But those are big ones. Like Johnson & Johnson, like Invisalign. Those pay like a lot of money.
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
So if you had an agent or somebody to go up there and pitch you more regularly or an agency, you'd be getting things like that all the time. Let's go.
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
Of course it would, because you're a nice guy.
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
That's amazing. You know, I have an idea for you. You know what you'd do great at, I think, because of who would watch it? Like, if you were to do, like, some kind of, like, partnership with, like, a QVC or an HSN, because the people who watch QVC and HSN, there's, like, the shopping networks, are the same people who are watching reality TV.
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
They love reality, you know, they love The Real Housewives. I'm sure they love your show, Below Deck. If you were to do like some kind of partnership with them, they would be able to make this so you wouldn't have to pay for the manufacturing or any of that. And then they could put you on the show and you would basically sell on their, you know, block of time.
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
And the women would love to see you because they love you probably already.
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
I think shirt off would probably do better.
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
But maybe you could do like a tight tank top.
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
But to me, that would be like a great money gig for you. And that way, like right now, you're paying for the manufacturing of this, right? You're paying for all of this. Like all that heavy lifting is coming from your pocket. Yep. Yeah. And so like you would – like this is what I – like I think it's a no-brainer.
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
There are people who I meet in LA who literally don't have even half of what you have. They don't even have – like they have like one season of some, you know, bow-dunk horrible reality show from some shitty network. And they're out there with their agents and their managers and their publicists trying to like hawk something.
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
You're actually like a really decent guy who's got a very nice way about you on a massive hit show three seasons in. Yeah. And like you're making your own perfume. Are you kidding me right now?
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
I'm going to give you more. I mean, listen, I'm like shocked at what I'm hearing. I mean, you know this, right? From your Bravo friend, Hayley.
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
No, they're not going to help you with that. But if you were really touted like the sexiest man on Bravo or sexiest reality star, that headline itself, you can leverage that to so many different endorsement deals. You can probably get a book deal. I could make you millions of dollars by next year.
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
How are you not doing this?
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
I'll give you business advice later. Okay. So guys, this is, he's the nicest guy, Captain Jason. Thank you. Watch season three of Below Deck and you'll come back when you're at point B, right? Yeah, please do.
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
They actually pay for it?
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
I'll help you get from A to B. That would be great. I'll help you in the middle. So where do people find you? So promote where you can be found.
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
Thank you. Okay, guys, go watch his show and go follow him on Instagram. Bye-bye.
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
Wow.
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
Okay. I've got so many questions now. Okay. So you said so much stuff. Okay. So doesn't Bravo just pick people to be on the boat?
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
Right, so these are all people who actually do this job legitimately.
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
And so it's not always the same crew. No. But you're the captain, which means you're always consistent on the show. So does your crew always change?
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
Okay, so then the people who are renting the boat, they're actually paying to be on the show with the show?
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
Oh, wow.
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
So what kind of tips do you guys get?
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
$20,000?
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
For three days.
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
Oh, you have to split everything. Everything goes into a pot. Yeah. Okay. And so are the, so the people that are, I guess the guests of the boat, instead of paying 300,000 or whatever, they're paying 70 or 80 and they're picked by Bravo.
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
So I was going to say, so the more difficult the guest is, I guess the better the show is for –
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
How do they fit? Like, how do you guys all sleep on the boat? Like the whole crew and the get, how many bedrooms are on these boats?
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
So 12 guests.
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
And where do you, like, are you guys sleeping, like, are you guys triple bunking?
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
Right. So it's not really about the guests on the show.
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
So which show performs the best? Is the Down Under that you're on the most popular?
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
The Down Under one?
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
Oh, my God.
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
Oh, okay. Well, that's not bad. Have you ever done any celebrities? Have you taken any celebrities on these trips?
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
No, besides the show, like in real life, have you done?
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
You're not 100% sure? And was that like a 500,000? Anna Archer. Anna Archer. She was an actress. Oh, Anna Archer. I remember her from Fatal Attraction.
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
Yeah.
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
But you also did Fatal Attraction. She was the wife.
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
Right. That was like her big thing. And those guys are paying 500,000 a week.
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
Okay. And then were they nice? Was Jennifer Lopez nice?
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
Oh, your first season ever, like doing it?
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
In real life? Yeah, in real life. So the guy who was the wolf of Wall Street was here, and it was the most fascinating podcast.
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
He was telling me all sorts of stuff. I've seen the movie, of course, but he was telling me the movie didn't give, it was not even a sliver of what really happened in real life.
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
Oh, wow. Because he was saying some bad words himself.
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
Oh, yeah, exactly. So how do you even become a captain on the show? Did you get the audition?
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
That has nothing to do with being a captain of a boat?
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
They've never seen TV.
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
But how did they even like, okay, so how did they know to find you? Like,
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That's smart. By the way, I know a lot of people have made a ton of money being able to do all that stuff.
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Did you growth hack yourself? I guess you did.
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How many?
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Where?
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How?
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I got to just say this because his schedule is super, super tight. And he's like, well, maybe I'll just take a helicopter to get to you. And I'm like, yeah, ha, ha, ha. And he legit meant it and took a helicopter to get here. And I had no idea you were being serious. Yeah.
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Who's your publisher?
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OK, I've got a bunch of questions. So first, does Sam have experience building a media company?
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Okay, and when you say media company, describe what that is to you.
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No, it's fascinating.
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Okay, wait. How long did it take to get here from there?
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Okay, so on the helicopter from San Clemente, which is like Orange County. Yeah. Okay, to like where I live, which is like Santa Monica.
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Do you have a lot of outside agencies who work with you? No.
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Totally agree.
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You've got to drink the Kool-Aid and live authentically.
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No, I understand. So basically then you decided 14 months ago all in on you. You built a team around it. And your team now is not just Sam, but people around it.
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It was 17 minutes. Ish, yeah. And then you're going to go back from there to Newport. Where in Newport are you going to go?
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How much does it cost a month to upkeep that?
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It's probably like 180. 180 a month. Probably. So does that mean that includes people walking around with you 24 hours a day or whatever?
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They're not allowed in your house?
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No in your house. That's why you do it all.
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Okay, good. So it's everything outside the house. Are your kids allowed to be on?
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Yeah, that's fine. Okay, so basically, you basically have someone to follow you around. You said you have more than one person.
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I remember what I saw of yours now that I liked. What was that? I just remembered. You talked about building talent, about CEOs who they are spending their time building talent and getting that- Build the people.
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And the people build the business. It's 100% how it is.
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You have no idea.
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I think that's a great strategy. My question is, what happens for people who don't have millions of dollars in the bank to spend $100,000 plus a month?
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Walk me through how someone can build a media company with themselves when they have very little money.
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This is hilarious. I know. OK, wait. How much did it cost to get the helicopter?
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So I was going to say to you, I think a lot of times we're struggling with the content because unless you have a busy life and that you're doing a lot of stuff, you're stuck with like having, if you have a boring life, it's hard to create content.
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Oh my God, I love this. I'm so happy you're here right now.
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What's the answer?
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OK, I'm going to ask this question for my son. So him and his friend started this business about they go to Smart and Final. They buy a bunch of candy. And then they take it to school. And then their idea, and I'm all for it, so maybe I'm a bad mom. But they'll do it until they get caught.
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So you always take the helicopter in California?
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Ask for forgiveness, not permission. You're not a bad mom.
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I am, really. And so they buy all this candy. They go to the school. And they take the candy and half of it. And they try to sell it, right?
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100%.
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That's such a good idea.
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I love that. I'm going to clip this and give this to my kid.
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I love it. It's 100% true.
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Yeah.
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Thank you.
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So why didn't you just, I guess you couldn't land it over here.
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So why, okay, because I'm far from Santa Monica. So that's like another 30 minutes.
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Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
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That's it?
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Okay, best because the traffic is really not that bad right now.
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So where, couldn't you get closer? Like I do have an area over there.
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Thank you.
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Thank you.
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Okay, but how did you get to this place? So like walk me through your life because in all transparency, I really had no clue who you were. Yeah. And then our friend, I guess our mutual friend introduced us.
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Oh, really?
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's my old book.
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Like give me your daily habit.
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Mm-hmm, 100%.
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How many other kids do you have besides?
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Oh, really? Oh, wow.
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Oh, my God. Oh, my gosh.
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Yeah.
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She was not. I can imagine.
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So you're doing seven days a week of weight training?
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Which is like what? Like a walking?
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And the other six days you're doing heavy lifting.
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You're doing a split.
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Okay, so how long is it, 45 minutes?
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Okay, so you work out every day with a trainer and people- Not every day, but I would say 70% of the time. Because look at this one. He looks like a body- I'll show you.
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Episode 439: Dan Martell: How to Master Your Time and Turn it into Wealth Today
Wow. So do you do cardio cardio or no?
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We just did a whole podcast on this because I feel like a lot of those endurance races or crazy races.
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First of all, you're like ruining your body. But more than that, you don't have that aesthetic that people are trying to get.
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Very rarely. Very rarely. You look like you're like, either you look like a fat, thin person.
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Just flabby. Yeah. Because you're basically like breaking down muscle mass all day and it's not for body composition.
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People love the abs in 90 days. That's the great part.
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And it turns out that- But tell people that it's just for, I know, but just- Yeah, so-
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Totally. I think women, too. Like, they're scared they're going to get too big.
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That's such a great way of putting it.
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I love it. Yeah.
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Episode 439: Dan Martell: How to Master Your Time and Turn it into Wealth Today
Wow. Okay. So then how did you go from that to taking helicopters, you know, in LA and having all the things you have? So let me just kind of tell you what I do know, and then you can kind of go back. Okay. I know that you have a fund that you said that was, you've had $100 million in revenue. That one, yeah. Right. And you've invested in 60 startups, over 60 startups. Yeah. You do a ton.
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So I like this shirt. I mean, I figured because I have a whole thing in my book about wearing the same clothes. Steve Jobs did it with his black turtleneck. I mean, people do it all the time. It's decision fatigue. It's just decision fatigue. That's what I call it. Of course, it's decision fatigue. Don't put your energy in areas that don't need. No ROI. Absolutely agree. So you chose to have blue.
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Yeah, that's good. True.
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Me too.
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I love that.
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How long have you been doing it for?
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Okay, that's a new one. Okay. Okay, let's talk about buy back your time. I want to know ways we can buy back our time. I saw the decision fatigue we got. I'm on board with that one.
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I like Costco. That's where I'm still stuck on because I like Costco and people laugh at me all the time because I will waste my entire day by going to Costco to save 4 cents or $1.99.
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Totally.
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You're the biggest executive coach in soft, in like software. Yeah.
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Right, 100%.
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Also, there's a big difference between busy and productive. You can make yourself busy all day doing silly things that get you no return on your investment.
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Episode 439: Dan Martell: How to Master Your Time and Turn it into Wealth Today
Betty is. Okay, so what's Betty's job? House manager. Okay, which entails what? Everything. Tell me.
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You do a lot of speaking gigs.
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And now you do a lot of social media stuff.
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Did Betty do the cooking or she has a chef to do the cooking?
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Someone's following you around, you know, doing your little stuff.
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Every night, 5.30. Okay. Who makes the kids breakfast and lunch?
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They do.
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Who makes breakfast for you, Max? Your mom?
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How about lunch?
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So who does make your lunch? Betty? Or you?
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Episode 439: Dan Martell: How to Master Your Time and Turn it into Wealth Today
I like it. Okay, go on.
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That's a big one, I think.
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Episode 439: Dan Martell: How to Master Your Time and Turn it into Wealth Today
Sam runs the team. So you've got five of these guys. So how did you go? I want you to talk about the evolution. What was the evolution of how you became where you are now?
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Episode 439: Dan Martell: How to Master Your Time and Turn it into Wealth Today
So we're talking- Send it to me, nevermind my audience.
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Don't forget.
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Sam.
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This podcast is literally meant for me. From the candy for my kids, how to sell more candy, to the Costco, to the executive assistant. I should be taking notes on myself. Okay, go on.
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Episode 439: Dan Martell: How to Master Your Time and Turn it into Wealth Today
Okay. Okay, wait. Finish what you just said. Executive assistant, personal assistant.
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Episode 439: Dan Martell: How to Master Your Time and Turn it into Wealth Today
So true.
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Episode 439: Dan Martell: How to Master Your Time and Turn it into Wealth Today
Okay, I need to get one more ways we can buy back our time and then you can leave.
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Episode 439: Dan Martell: How to Master Your Time and Turn it into Wealth Today
Because I think you're right. It is a letting go situation. It is. People can't, they feel that they, or they feel like they can do it better than someone else.
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Episode 439: Dan Martell: How to Master Your Time and Turn it into Wealth Today
Okay. Then why do I only know about you now?
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Episode 439: Dan Martell: How to Master Your Time and Turn it into Wealth Today
That's good. Okay, well, what we'll do is, because really I wanted to talk about this book and we didn't really talk about it as much as I'd like.
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Episode 439: Dan Martell: How to Master Your Time and Turn it into Wealth Today
I like it too, but I also like actionable things that people can have when they can be like, oh, I can do that. I can integrate that into my life. So those are a good amount. What we'll do is next time you're here, you can helicopter to my backyard or my roof. I have a huge roof, by the way. I can fit a helipad.
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Episode 439: Dan Martell: How to Master Your Time and Turn it into Wealth Today
Yeah, right here.
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That's a little bit far, but right here.
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Episode 439: Dan Martell: How to Master Your Time and Turn it into Wealth Today
That's okay. You have a helicopter.
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Episode 439: Dan Martell: How to Master Your Time and Turn it into Wealth Today
So you can just put one over here next to my house and you can just kind of jaunt right in here for a few minutes and then- Yeah, you'll coordinate this whole thing. This was fascinating. I'm glad that we got introduced. And is there anything besides following you on YouTube, Instagram, buying your book, buy back your time?
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I love it. Thank you, Dan, for coming on the podcast. Thank you.
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Really? Yeah.
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Episode 439: Dan Martell: How to Master Your Time and Turn it into Wealth Today
Wow.
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Episode 439: Dan Martell: How to Master Your Time and Turn it into Wealth Today
So you were addicted to, you were a drug addict.
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Episode 439: Dan Martell: How to Master Your Time and Turn it into Wealth Today
OK, you're still young.
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No, what is it called?
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Episode 439: Dan Martell: How to Master Your Time and Turn it into Wealth Today
When you say multimillionaire, are we talking $2 million? Are we talking $20 million?
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A lot of people say they're millionaires, but. It means nothing. I know. They're not. I want to know the, like, the.
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Episode 439: Dan Martell: How to Master Your Time and Turn it into Wealth Today
OK, so now you're 27. You have like $7 million in the bank, let's just say. What do you do now? What's the next thing?
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OK, big move.
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Episode 439: Dan Martell: How to Master Your Time and Turn it into Wealth Today
Yeah.
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Why there, of all places?
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So you wanted to be close to tech.
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Which ones did you invest in?
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But I mean- And how much were you giving each? Like 25,000, 100,000? No, more like 100. Yeah, 100K each. And were you kind of getting those opportunities by the network that you were meeting?
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Go to LiveMomentous.com and use code Jen for 20% off. Just act now. Start today. Jen for 20% off. LiveMomentous.com. All right, so today we have Dan Martell. Yeah. Right? All right. And team. And he's Canadian, so automatically you have a place in my heart. We're friends right off the bat. Cool. He wrote a book called Buy Back Your Time. And I thought he was joking.
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Episode 439: Dan Martell: How to Master Your Time and Turn it into Wealth Today
Oh, I love that book.
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Never eat alone. You should never eat lunch alone.
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Yeah, aloof. Yeah, yeah.
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By the way, how long did you live there for?
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Keep it simple, stupid.
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No, I think that's a great, I think that's a really good piece of advice because you're right. Like I get people who call me all the time or email me or text me for like information sessions or they want to, whatever it is. Right. And I say, well, what do you do? And they have no clue or they're talking, they're talking in too many syllables. And I'm like, you lost me already.
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Like you should have an elevator pitch that's so succinct. Where people know, okay, this is what I do. I wrote a book. Great. I can understand that.
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No.
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So then you go into these things and you're like, okay, now you're like basically bullshitting. You're a marketing person for a startup.
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But how did you know how to do marketing? Because you were doing all that. From my previous company. Yeah, but you were more like, it sounds to me, you were more like the coder.
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Yeah.
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It's much higher.
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Really?
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And the anxiety kicks in.
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Yeah.
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I know him.
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
Wow. So you count, you do four in.
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
Okay.
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
Wouldn't you be sleeping by then, hopefully?
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
So, because that, I think what you just said is exactly the thing. I get monkey mind, right? I start thinking of all my problems and I get such anxiety. I know. And then like it just feeds on itself. Of course. And then 3.30 is now like 5.30.
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
So you mean people are now being prescribed Monjaro or- Zepbound. Or Ozempic for sleep issues?
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
Yeah. Right.
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
Exactly. I'm like, oh my God, I'm going to be so tired. I'm not going to have any energy again. And then it takes you down a bad rabbit hole, right? Absolutely.
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
Okay. Because I want to know how to get rid of monkey minds in the middle of the night.
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
Okay.
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
Okay.
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
All you need to do is just cross your arms and front legs like this.
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
That's it. And you get about 20% of what it would be if you were actually sleeping.
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
But like if I'm doing, if I'm waking up in the middle of the night, five nights in a row, doesn't that just overall ruin my health?
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
Because I think that's what happens, right? Because you get what I feel, what I think a lot of people do is that if it's happened once or twice in a row, you get nervous to go to bed. It's going to continue to happen.
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
Right, because you're like, oh my God, I'm going to wake up again. Right. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
I actually think, to be honest, what people are doing more than drinking now are they're taking gummies to go to bed.
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
What's CBN?
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
10.
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
Wow. So you're basically eliminating the time in bed where you're just like, you know, thinking and basically just like ruminating.
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
So you go to bed later and wake up earlier. Exactly. And then you over time expand on it.
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
That's what you guys do in like sleep clinics? Yes.
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
Well, that's the thing. Anybody I know who's ever taken Ambien, they get addicted to that stuff and then they can't fall asleep without it.
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
Right.
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
What about using Benadryl to fall asleep?
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
No, I did not.
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
I've never heard that.
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
How, so how, oh my gosh, because that actually is the only thing that works. If I can't fall asleep, like, and it's been days.
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
Right.
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
But wait a minute. So that's crazy. I know. See, every time you're on this show, every time I learn so many new things. It's unbelievable about sleep. I heard you talk about vitamin C in sleep. Does vitamin C actually help you?
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
Yeah, get to the root cause.
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
What's it called?
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
What about just taking magnesium?
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
You told me that before that you did that study that like it was like way above any other-
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
Did you, did you test other magnesiums to see or?
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
Okay. How about melatonin?
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
Oh my, yeah. I mean, first of all, Ozempic and Monjar, these drugs are like taking over the world.
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
So like people like who are aging, like you were just saying, just to kind of finish.
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
Yeah.
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
It is?
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
You really are. What do you mean?
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
No kidding. I know. And also, it's also not something to get addicted to either. Correct. So basically then, magnesium, vitamin D, you say, are two that you're comfortable with.
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
And omegas. And omegas. Well, yeah. So wait, what do you mean? So talk about the omegas. You say gaba root and hops.
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
Thank you.
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
Thank you.
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
Thank you.
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
Really? Well, it also just takes away your desire to live. That's what it does though, right? Because it's like, I don't feel like eating. I don't feel like going out to the... I don't feel like gambling because it's like you become so tired on it. You become lethargic on it.
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
Thank you.
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
It's great. Can I tell you something? When it came out like, well, I know 20 years ago it's been out. By the way, we're going to get into sleep, you guys. So just give me two seconds. But when it was like really popular, like three, four years ago, I tried it for a week just to see. I was so nauseous. I was so sick on it.
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
Thank you.
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
Dr. Michael Bruce back on the podcast. Thanks. Thank you so much for coming back.
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
Thank you. Right, because it's consistent. Because it's consistent, right? Exactly.
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
Yes, that's a very big trend right now.
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
Do you think they're even useful, though? Like, is it better just not to wear them?
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
Yeah.
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
Right, you can see it.
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
So you have people that you work with, celebrities, for what reason? Because they can't fall asleep?
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
Well, because they were saying that the reason why people were getting so nauseous and sick was because the dose was so big.
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
I know Carter.
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
Yes. So you meet everyone through me.
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
Oh, that's a good one.
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
That's a good one to talk about, right? So someone like that who has a schedule, they're like obviously night owls.
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
He's a shift worker, right. So let's say you get off stage and it's five o'clock in the morning or four o'clock in the morning. You're super amped.
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
And that's why they started, it became a popular thing to do this microdosing. But anyway, like I just found like if you have no desire to like actually like live.
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
Like, how do you get someone like that to go to sleep?
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
Well, you talk about drink. Is that what you meant? Yeah.
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
How does that affect your sleep?
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
I mean, I'd rather be 10 pounds heavier or 20 pounds heavier, right? Like it's ridiculous. Okay. So let's get into all the other sleep stuff. Sure. So your new book is called Sleep.
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
Right. That could be a, that could be a cause that you don't even think about.
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
It is a three-peat. And you think, like, how much more information can you even know about sleep?
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
So that's funny you say that too, because I'm trying to get all of my water intake in as well, because I hate water. Well, you can't hate water, girl. I hate it. I mean, I'll drink tea. Well, you can get water and other things.
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
But what I mean is because of that, I have this whole system in place so I can drink a lot of water during the day.
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
Like whitish yellow.
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
But no, I don't think I am. Because I'll tell you, I'll tell you. Because I get headaches sometimes. I feel my skin looks dehydrated. But what I was, but that's, this is not about, it's not about me. But what I was going to say is in the morning, what I will do to try to get my water, my water quotient, I will drink a liter, a liter and a half in the morning. I'll take lemons.
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
Wow. Yeah, you make it really easy. Okay, so why do I need to read that book if I sleep, drink, and breathe every day? Is there something that you're going to teach me that I don't know about?
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
I'll squeeze the lemons in. Oh, that's good.
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
Make my own what? Mineral water. Yeah, I know.
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
So basically what I'm saying is I like take my supplements with the big liter and a half of water and I gulp it.
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
So is it better to drink it over like an hour period versus for a 20-minute period? Yeah, 20 minutes.
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
But what happens if you don't have access to sunlight? Would you tell people?
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
So tell me again how to remove brain fog.
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
So say the whole thing again.
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
Wow. What about just drinking a cup of coffee?
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
Wow.
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
That's a long time to wait.
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
It is because if you want to work out and do all these things, don't you kind of need to have your coffee?
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
You think hydrate, okay, okay. But can you wait, what's the difference between waiting an hour or 90 minutes?
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
And what time is the latest that you would suggest someone drinking coffee?
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
Wow. Okay. What about foods to eat for sleep?
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
So, okay, so let's just go over basic hacks for sleeping or habits, right?
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
Yeah, we got that one down.
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
That's a really good one, actually. I heard you once talk about something about water bottles, like put something...
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
Yeah, like those cold mattresses. Right.
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
You put two, basically two frozen water bottles on the side.
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
Really?
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
But what if you're a side sleeper? It's okay. Well, then the other hip will be up. Do you tape it to your thigh?
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
Really?
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
How did you figure that one out?
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
That's right. Because up here it's more bony, right? So it'd be like freezing.
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
Okay. Give me a few other sleep hacks.
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
Oh, in sleep.
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
Okay, how about give me a few on how to fall asleep, not just how to fall back asleep, but how to fall asleep. Sure. And what would you consider, I mean, we all know about the temperature and dark rooms. What's your take on mouth tape? Okay.
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
What's the purpose?
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
Because it's a very hot trend right now.
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
Yeah, Hostage.
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
Yeah. I mean, I know. But it's interesting how there's all these fads and people don't know what's what. So how do you know if you have sleep apnea? Yeah.
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
What is it? What is it? I was going to say, it'd be a perfect, that's a great thing for you for business.
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
What about like in general snoring? What does it mean?
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
Are there different rules that apply for kids who have sleeping issues? You ever hear about kids and sleeping issues?
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
Right? Sure. But you cease to amaze every time you give better and better, more concise, new information every time.
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
Yeah, yeah. Well, yeah. You would think. You would hope. Right. Okay, sorry. I'm just looking through your book here because what I saw was interesting is you say here about, wait, you talk about all sorts of different waters, water trails. Yeah.
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
Yeah, distilled water is the worst water.
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
Right, right, right.
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
Oh, Mountain?
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
Because of the glass? Yes.
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
But wait a second. The reason why I was bringing it up that you're talking about alkaline water and distilled water and spring water, is there a particular water that you think is the most hydrating for someone to drink?
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
Mineral water.
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
But mineral water, like what?
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
Right. That's what you told me earlier. You said, oh, you can make your own mineral water. Right. That's what you meant.
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
So mineral water is the best water?
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
Big problem like what?
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
So how does that affect your sleep?
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
I'm full of them.
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
That's why I wanted to know what's the best water, because I think alkaline water is the water that I've been drinking.
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
And also, the big trend is hydrogen water.
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
That's good to know. So mineral water, like every, this is the thing you give you, you're very good at giving, like you're very practical.
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
You know, and you give people like the, like truthfully actionable things that people can do today to help, help themselves like right in the moment.
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
There you go. I mean, it's so funny you say that because all these other modalities, like the red light and the sauna and the cold plunge, they maybe move the needle. Itty, bitty, teeny, tiny. Exactly. One to 8%, okay? If that. If that. But people are not even focusing on the fundamentals, right? Right, and that's what this is.
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
But that's what you do better than anybody. Thanks. No, you do. I laugh because I can literally just press record, ask you one question, go pick up my kids at school, come back.
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
Come on. Exactly. You could just go for two hours. I could be like, okay, Michael, how do you sleep better? Bye. Be back in two hours. But it's amazing. Okay, so your new book called Sleep, Drink, Breathe, Simple Daily Habits for Profound Long-Term Health. This is what, book number? Five. Five, yikes.
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
That's amazing. Yeah. That's amazing.
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
Really? How about a dream book next?
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
To get into. Wow. Well, again, it's been a pleasure having you on the podcast. Can you come back again?
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
I don't know, but we'll figure it out. We'll figure it out. Okay, guys, pick up, check out Sleep, Drink, Breathe. You will not be disappointed. Michael is full of so many amazing tips and tricks, as I'm sure you can have told us from the episode. So thank you, Mr. Sleep Doctor.
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
Sweet dreams. Bye.
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
And it's been proven, and you've taught me this, that sleep is the most, the core component of overall health. Yeah, no question. When you look into it and how sleep can really, it can disrupt everything in your body and affect you in terms. Well, you tell me, you can tell us again. How does not sleeping affect your physical health?
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
You guys are in for a huge treat. We have one of our favorite guests ever. There you go. On this podcast. His podcast has still, I think you're still like the number one most downloaded podcast. That's why I keep on bringing you back because you bring it. We have the sleep doctor.
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
right?
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
No matter what.
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
That's a great, even on the weekends, that's a great tip. By the way, though, I think, doesn't it happen naturally? Like I'm so used to waking up at 6.20 during the week with my kid, that like I automatically, my eyes will, my eyes just pop open.
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
Yeah, no, that's so, so you're saying once, so even if that happens on the weekend, because that happens to me, Saturday and Sunday, pop, my eyes go open. I shouldn't just like, so what I would normally do is just like, I would like be on my phone checking, like I'd go on social media until 7.15, not to do that.
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
Right. Actually, they get up at the same time too.
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That's even better.
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
So basically then that's the trick, to wake up every day, no matter if it's weekend, weekday, it doesn't matter.
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
Really? You can't get rid of them?
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How?
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
I know. Well, you know what I feel happens now, like now that I'm in my 40s now? Falling asleep is not the problem.
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
The problem is getting up in the middle of the night. Oh, yes. I can fix that. Okay, so this is my problem. So I fall asleep, no problem. 3.30, boom, I'm awake. And then once I'm awake, I can't fall asleep again.
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
Okay, go ahead.
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
Really?
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
What bed should I buy?
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
Three o'clock in the morning.
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
It's so true because success, I think it depends on who you ask. It's all perspective, right? I think the easy thing is, oh, how much money did you make? Are you successful? But to me, actually, the people who are the most wealthy, richest people I know are usually the most unsuccessful in everything else in life, which makes it kind of like a really, it's like the juxtaposition, right?
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
Because they focus solely on money, but they have no time, they have no relationships, they have no nothing, and their health is taking a nosedive. And I guess, not to kind of sit there and just kind of like pontificate, but how do you, if you are somebody... You can't really change that perspective, right? Like you don't know what you don't know.
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
Do you think you have to have some kind of like big moment in time, like something that gets slapped in your face to kind of see that perspective? Because otherwise, I think people lose out on a lot of other types of wealth they can be.
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
There's not, but I think they're trying to be cautionary. But like, I just remember like, oh my God, as I'm like drinking and I'm like, maybe I should just have half of this time.
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
That's low. I thought it'd be even higher, actually.
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
I'm going to use him as an example, okay? Elon Musk is obviously the richest person in the world. But I feel like his life is very lopsided, right?
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
Like he may be like a rock star in so many other areas, but really if you actually listen to him and talk with him and see him, you can tell that there's like a deep need, like there's a lot of other things lacking, you know, in his life, which means I bet you if you were to sit here and talk to him, he'd think he wasn't very successful.
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
He'd be successful in one area, but I bet you he'd be really lonely and sad and probably not very happy, right?
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
Right, it's the ripple effect, right?
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
And I think the start is always in, like the stop is in the start, right? And it's like inertia, right? Something in motion stays in motion.
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
But I think it's very true. I think it's about something in motion stays in motion. And I guess what I always get, people always say to me, well, how do I start? Like, what do I do? And my answer, and I think we're very aligned here because I think when I was going through your stuff, I always say it's about actually exercising. Exercising, I think, is the catalyst for
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
And it's like a gateway drug to life, in my opinion.
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
Because to me, number one, what it does to your brain, like for me, it's not just a physicality. It's like what you do for your mental health, your focus, all the things. I used to do this treadmill. I don't know if you were here yet, Ed, on treadmills. Like I issued this podcast on treadmills. Sorry, I don't think I said that right.
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
So we had two treadmills here facing each other and we would walk and talk. I love that. Right? Because I think you get way more creative. Like your ideas are better. Your energy is better. You think faster. To me, if you don't have that as part of your daily habit and ritual, you are really missing out on so much. Like energy begets energy.
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
When I don't work out, I'm way more lethargic than if I do, even if I'm super tired.
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
Tell me.
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
That's a really great point. You know, me and my husband for the first, what, like six years of our life being married, or maybe even maybe less, I don't remember, we would go for a walk every night and we'd walk to dinner because we had a destination, right? And it had to be at least two miles. So we would have that time.
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
And I think it was the best habit that I've ever, ever kind of brought into our marriage because that's like the way to connect to people and to connect to your partner, whatever. Otherwise, you just get, you like get lost in the weeds of life, right? Yep.
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
And so anything involving exercise, and it's not because I'm like a fitness fanatic or whatever, but I think because it does teach you such foundational skills in life, like discipline and delayed gratification and all these things. If people can just like get to that in their brain, their lives can just be exponentially better.
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
Have you ever seen these before?
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
You just said the main word, though, confidence. Because I think it breeds confidence. Because you see yourself doing a hard thing over and over again, you will become... you'll have that self-efficacy, like I can do hard things, I am confident, I can finish this thing.
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
And I think that, like I said earlier, is that that's why I think people are very myopic when they think about what exercise really means. And so when I see that as one of your pillars of your wealth of physicality, I think it's like the number one pillar. It's like the number one, if I was gonna do one through five, that's like the first thing because it does open up all these other channels.
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
And then I have to tell you, and this is not an ad. This is actually genuine. I'm a huge cold brew person, and I'm trying to find the best around wherever I go. The best cold brew I've ever had is a place or a company called Grady's. Do you know what this is?
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
That's amazing. I love that story, actually. And I bet you when you were 30 and you were kind of like recalibrating your life and you gained all that weight, it's because you weren't working out. And then I bet you one of the first things you did was start working out again.
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
I can't imagine. By the way, if you're just listening, he looks like an Abercrombie Fitch model. And then he said to me before we started, he didn't always look like this.
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
Oh, you have? Okay, well, do you like them before I make you take it?
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
Okay, I am going to write it down.
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
I'm going to use that. And then the other one is fat jacked.
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
It's on the East Coast. We don't have, we don't have really much access to it on the West Coast here. And I actually ship it from New York. And you can now, and I realize, and I actually even like DM them.
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
I love that. That's so nice. That's so sweet.
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
I love that. Is your wife here in LA with you now or no?
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
I'm like, you have the best, like send me whatever you want and I'll just post whatever because I want everyone to know because it's really strong and that you can tell it's like very, it's not watered down like most other ones. Like I find most places are very watered down and I hate that feeling. So if you, you wrote it down in your little book.
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
And by the way, I didn't even ask you earlier, but what does your sister do now? I'm curious. She said she's such a rock star. I don't even know what she does.
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
That's so true. I think this is what I think. Sorry. No, no, no. This is what I think is interesting about you a little bit, because like I said, like at the beginning, like, I don't know where you came from. I just started seeing like some posts, some like some content. And I'm like, wow, this is really deep. I really like this one. Then I'm going to look at this one. And then
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
And I think like this is your superpower. I think you're really good at like taking some like human feeling and then like creating content around it that resonates with a lot of people. Because all these things that you talk about, like it touches people in a way that's like, yeah, that's so true.
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
Or like, you know, like I think that, you know, that 10-year-old thing, anyone who's a parent can relate to the fact that that happens or when your parent is aging and you only have... X amount of time to see them, especially because my mom, she lives on the East Coast. And like I said, like that, I'm like, wow, you're right. Like she's 80. I probably get to see her four times, maybe if I'm lucky.
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
So when you started to kind of like get out of where you were and then move to the East Coast and Get your life back. Did you make a, did you make a decision like, okay, I'm going to start being a content creator. I'm going to start like building my Instagram.
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
I love it. So now it's there. You're going to try it.
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
Like where did, how did it go from private equity guy living here to then write like, obviously I get why you're writing books cause you're a thinker and all that. But like, is that how it kind of happened with the book?
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
Exactly. And it's also the French vanilla is what I love, but you can get original. Oh, yeah. By the way, this is how many magic wines I've had. I didn't even actually properly introduce you. We have Sahil. Is that how you say your name? Sahil. Sahil. Sahil? Sahil, yeah. Sahil Bloom on the podcast. And he wrote a book, and it's called The Five Types of Wealth.
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
Okay, good, because the ingredients are delicious. Okay, so what we do is we'll get you really focused and locked in, and we just basically do a cheers, and we just then start. Deal. Okay, you ready? Here we go. Cheers. Cheers. Nice to meet you.
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
Bunch of dummies in your life.
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
Thank you.
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
And so, by the way, thank you for being on the podcast.
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
Yes, you're welcome.
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
Thank you.
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
Thank you.
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
I'm so glad. Well, it's funny because I didn't know who you were until very recently. I started seeing your clips of you. And I really love your perspective, how you speak. You're very articulate. You seem like you have a lot of wisdom in a very young person's brain and body. I mean, were you just always very wise growing up?
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
Thank you.
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
that like there are people like, I can't look at myself anymore. And they're like, you can't even get an appointment with these people.
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
That's so hilarious. And it's literally like, to me, like, why can't we go back to how it was before? Like, why do we have to stay on Zooms? Because now you could actually meet people in person, which is way more effective anyway, in my opinion, like personal connection, connectivity. Yeah.
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
Can you imagine? People are losing the ability. You know, it's really... Don't get me started. I just actually... Today, I just did a TED Talk on how to build mentally strong kids. And I talk all about this stuff. This is not a podcast about me, but we were talking about it. But...
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
I find like we're losing, like the reason why our mental health, because we're in a huge crisis and our younger generation are like becoming very, very weak because we're unable to do all these basics that you and I did when we were kids. People don't meet, like we're not even like meeting in person to date. We're not like comfortable even like looking at each other.
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
Like when you're in an elevator, the first thing people do are they're staring at their phones. They're so scared to make eye contact.
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
people are losing that ability to know how to even deal with a human being.
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70%.
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
Not only do I know about it, it was a slide in my PowerPoint, in my TED Talk, because it is unbelievable. And all the things that we used to do, take out 85% of those things. Like you know, bike riding, socializing, dating, flirting, adventuring, all that, take 85% of that stuff out and replace it with a screen and social media. And that's what we have right now.
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
And then we're wondering why people are, have no self-esteem, have, are completely lonely or doing, and we're on like a decline every single day. Yeah.
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
That's exactly what I'm talking about.
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
So what is like... I'm like very passionate about all of this because I think I have kids too. And like, I'm really unhappy with where our, the trajectory of life is going just with people. Like even people are single for like, people are not getting married. People are not in relationships. That's what I'm saying.
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
The loneliness, the true loneliness is the real, to me, that's the real pandemic in life, right? Because people are losing these abilities to even like, even know what it means. So with all that being said, what do you tell people? I mean, obviously it resonates with you. What can you do? Because you're lucky, right? You're in a relationship with someone that were pre all this stuff.
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
What are your friends doing?
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
And it's also like, I think, I always think to myself, like, do you think they, you don't know what you don't know, right? So if you weren't born in our generation, if you were born like after 1995 or 2000, whatever, after 2000, like if you don't know that, how do you know what you're missing? You don't. So then you're now really stuck.
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
Because it's easy for me to say when I already, I knew what it was like when I had to like, you know, go out there to a party and like try to like meet a boy or like, you know, get in fights with this person because, you know, I didn't, they, you know, they didn't like my shirt or my sweater or whatever girl fight, whatever the nonsense is or like sneak out of my house to go to a party, whatever it is.
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
It doesn't happen anymore. We don't have that same thing. They don't have it anymore. Yeah. So if you don't know what you don't know, what are you supposed to do?
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
And have meaning. Okay, so let's get back to the book. So let's talk about the five.
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
Good, good, good. I mean, I'm just trying to think of things I missed. The social part, the mental part. Let's talk about the mental part and the financial. Well, the financial part is pretty much everything. Yeah, but I want to know, like, I want some, like, key things that people, actionable items. We have a few we said.
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
That people can, like, really do tomorrow. Besides fitness stuff, we got that covered. Besides, what other ones did we really cover?
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
You got to day three?
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
Right. Like, cause like I saw you went to Stanford, right? You went, you got, you got like your, was it like a BA, an MA? I saw like, what was it?
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
I'm going to try that. Okay, I like that one. Give me another one.
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
And what was your master's in?
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
Oh, okay.
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
So like you're, you obviously are bright, very bright. And then you're also an athlete. And then, well, wait, did you, I didn't know Stanford even had a baseball team. Were there other?
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
Yeah, I love that. I say the same. I say, like, people could be bored. It won't kill them to be bored for a little bit.
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
That's what I'm saying. Like, God forbid that you have nothing to do for 30 seconds.
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
I mean, I don't know how people even survived.
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
I mean, it's unbelievable. Think about how gross and dirty those phones are. Just imagine. It's like so disgusting. I'll never touch someone's phone because I know where it is and I don't want to have anything to do with it. That's for sure.
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
Oh, I think about the most crazy things all the time. Like I'll try everything in my power not to touch someone's phone because it's like that phone has been in places that like is so dirty. There's probably so much like fecal matter on people's phones.
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
It's true because you know what people do? They put their phone behind their toilet seat or toilet cup, the back of the toilet, and then they flush the toilet and the water gets on the phone. All the crazy shit that I think of, honestly. It's so crazy. But anyway, I'm digressing.
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
Yeah. That's good.
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
Yeah, exactly. That's a great clip, actually. Okay, so besides the fact that the shallow water body is my favorite piece of clip, the favorite thing that you've shared so far. Yeah, that's good. Is there anything else that we didn't talk about? Oh, I want to know your routine. I want to know your morning routine, your evening routine, and your habits. I mean, hello.
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
4.15 in the morning?
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
So you were doing it way before it was popular.
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
Totally. Why do you think I wear this?
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
And I think you go from cold plunge. And then what do you do?
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
Oh, so that's your big morning routine. I thought you were going to say exercise.
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
Okay. I thought that we're going to go into a whole like four hour thing here.
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
Interesting. So you don't, okay, so why don't you do it like right after the cold plunge or after your workout, then do the cold plunge?
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
I don't even think that we even knew that was part of the curriculum. Like there was even a sport called baseball in Canada. It was just not something that people even thought of. Like Even, like, when I moved here, baseball and basketball, like, all these other – soccer. Like, we don't do those things back there.
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
And by the way, I don't get this whole nonsense. If you're a vegan, you have to shame people who eat and vice versa. Stop with all this stuff. This whole like nonsense that God forbid that you have an opinion that someone else doesn't like.
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
I can't stand it.
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
The more polarizing you are or the more of like you say something that's very like absolute, that's how you get your likes.
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
How much do you run a day?
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
Do you do weights and cardio same day? Do you do splits?
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
Oh, me too. Okay, so are you doing, that's why.
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
But you're also doing the running, I guess, like you were saying earlier, we were both saying, for your brain.
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
But I think that because I grew up not thinking about it – funnily enough, though, I'm friends with a lot of baseball players, which is very interesting. But, you know – but anyway, the point is, like, that's very interesting, Stanford, baseball. I want to know about, like, how you even kind of evolved into this career path.
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
You know what I feel like? Honestly, I know you haven't because you probably had no clue who I was, but I feel like everything you're saying is literally videos that I've done or things that I've written that you're just regurgitating. I say that all the time. It's like the boring shit gets you. It's that stuff that makes you thrive and become the most successful version of yourself.
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
People don't want to hear it. There's no magic pill or magic anything. I eat the same thing every day. I do my running. It sounds so boring and probably you don't want to hang out with me, but it gets the job done and I get from A to B to Z. People don't want to know it.
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
When I travel, I get a little bit of anxiety. I'm like, it's horrible.
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
Literally, I like wrote something today about like adaptability. I think like adaptability is like a superpower. And I'm not good at it. Like I have to learn to be less rigid and more adaptive to be successful, more successful or whatever you want to call it. Because the people I know who are able to adapt to their environment really fast and
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
and regulate themselves and not be so like nervous and scared with anger. Like I'm like going to Fiji for crying out loud next week. And I'm like nervous as shit. I'm like, how am I going to go to Fiji? I'm going to, what am I going to eat? What am I going to do? How am I going to work out? Like most people would be like, wow. That's amazing. You're going to Fiji.
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
And I'm like, that's the kind of neuroses that I have.
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
You are now like, what would you call yourself? I know you're an author, right? You're a writer.
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
I know. Well, what did you eat for breakfast today at your hotel?
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
That place, I stayed there in Miami just recently. It was like basically like it was offensive how expensive it was.
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
What did you have?
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
$96.
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
Are you sure you weren't?
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
It's so sneaky. I'm offended by it. But do you know what error one is, by the way?
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
to me like it's the most absurd people are standing in line there like as if they're giving shit away yeah you also feel ugly automatically walking in there because everyone's a model you're like walking around you're like what the hell oh actually not anymore you know what they do now yeah they're getting they're taking tour buses from like ohio and minneapolis they're dropping off people by the droves by like 300 people to look at like it's like a zoo it's like a zoo in there
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
They bring them off the bus, and they're all with their binoculars and their things taking pictures.
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
And they're all in line for the $30 Bieber smoothie. Oh, yeah, the Hailey Bieber strawberry glaze. Yeah, the Hailey Bieber smoothie, which, by the way, has like 1,000 calories.
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
How do they justify it? It's what I don't understand.
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
Everyone goes there. People go there.
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
They're so rich, the people who started Erewhon. They have, like, a $40 million house, like, in Malibu.
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
Like, and they're building up more of these places. I don't, like, you know, I don't know how people can afford this shit, though.
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
Like, people are buying this stuff. I mean, I could do a whole podcast on just Erewhon, honestly. I should just stop while I'm ahead. But, like, it's crazy.
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
Exactly. You know, we should, I actually should do it because I have so many stories about this place.
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
I mean, I went there once. Okay, that's just one last story about this place. I went and I had to get strawberries. Okay, strawberries. At Ralph's, there's another grocery store, they're $4.99. At Whole Foods, maybe like $8.99. Maybe even at Gelson's, another upscale store, maybe $9.99. Okay, which is very expensive. I walked into Air One. I kid you not, $29.99. Okay. $29.99.
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
I went up to the person. I'm like, is this wrong? I think you marked it wrong. They're like, no, it's not wrong. I'm like, $30?
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
Can you believe that? And like an asshole, I'm like fighting with this guy. What is he going to do? People are buying them like it's gold.
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
Best strawberries. They're from a place called Dave's Farm or I don't know, some other wacky farm. Who knows? But welcome to LA is all I have to say. Well, it's been a pleasure meeting you.
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
Exactly. If you want a nice expensive breakfast day at the one hotel, don't go to Erewhon if you don't want to get raped. If you need financial wealth, don't go to Erewhon.
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
Maybe like six types of wealth.
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
Do not shop at Erewhon.
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
Well, it's been a pleasure having you on the podcast.
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
I know. If I would have known, like if you were, we should have worked out together.
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
I would love to.
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
Now, how do people could buy the book is called Five Types of Wealth. Where else can people find you if they don't know who you are yet?
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
Thank you so much for being here.
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
But if you tried, would you get A's?
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
So what we do on this show when we first start is we do a magic mind shot. How did you know? I saw you holding it.
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
That's such a good way of putting it. I mean, it's funny. My friend Jesse Itzler has this whole thing with time, right? Like, his whole... He has, like, even made this big-ass calendar situation where... I went to Mori, yeah. Right, you know, to kind of... And I think something that you did on social media was how I kind of, like, clicked into you. It was something about time and energy and...
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
And they're very different things. And actually, now that I think about it, you know what actually I did see was that you were talking about if you have a kid, the first 10 years of the life. Well, can you share that? Because I think that was what got me dialed into you. And then you go into all this time.
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
You know what? That's funny because that happens a lot because I actually genuinely love them. And I take it before I work out. And then I take it with these podcasts. And then I'm up to like four or five. And they're like, you know, maybe you shouldn't take more than two or maybe max like three. And then I'm like just like I'm like basically banging them back like it's like water.
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
It's so true. That word later might as well be crossed out and just put never because that is 100% true. I think people get more comfortable with thinking that they could possibly do it versus just admitting that it won't happen. So I guess it circles back to, okay, you're 30 years old. You heard this thing. You realize you have 15 more times to maybe see your parents. You move back.
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
You move back. How, what else did it do? Like, how did you then go from your life as, I think you were in private equity, yeah? So you went from being a private equity guy, being overweight and, you know, whatever, you're having a not that great of a relationship and all the other things were kind of like taking a turn. What did you do to kind of become who you are today?
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Episode 437: Annie Särnblad: How to Spot Lies and Detect True Emotions in Seconds
But there's a lot of times when like you like you do something really great and then people like, oh, my God, I'm so happy for you. Right. Like that, like fakeness, like the phoniness. How can you spot when someone's being phony and actually doesn't want the best for you or when they're envious of you or jealous of you?
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Episode 437: Annie Särnblad: How to Spot Lies and Detect True Emotions in Seconds
That's what you're known as, right? Yeah. Oh, God. I'm scared, by the way. So I want to just give a little brief. So her book is called Diary of a Human Lie Detector, Facial Expressions in Love, Lust, and Lies.
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Episode 437: Annie Särnblad: How to Spot Lies and Detect True Emotions in Seconds
No, no, no. I thought we were saying like, what is the biggest mistake that people make when they're trying to, if they want to believe somebody, like are people, what's the biggest mistake that people are not looking for or when they make when they're trying to read somebody?
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Episode 437: Annie Särnblad: How to Spot Lies and Detect True Emotions in Seconds
So it's all in the lower lip if someone's mad.
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Episode 437: Annie Särnblad: How to Spot Lies and Detect True Emotions in Seconds
And you basically know thousands of facial expressions, and you can read thousands of different facial expressions to tell if somebody is lying to you, if they like you, if they're a narcissist, if they're a psychopath. I mean, I'm actually kind of nervous interviewing you because you're going to be watching my face and I'm now going to be like, oh, I shouldn't do this. I shouldn't sit like that.
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Episode 437: Annie Särnblad: How to Spot Lies and Detect True Emotions in Seconds
Oh, right. So you're saying scan someone's total face.
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Episode 437: Annie Särnblad: How to Spot Lies and Detect True Emotions in Seconds
Why?
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Episode 437: Annie Särnblad: How to Spot Lies and Detect True Emotions in Seconds
Really?
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Episode 437: Annie Särnblad: How to Spot Lies and Detect True Emotions in Seconds
I mean, not everybody, but... I was going to say everybody, I mean, or like guy versus girl. Well, that's actually a good point.
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Episode 437: Annie Särnblad: How to Spot Lies and Detect True Emotions in Seconds
So you're saying you should not look at someone's mouth for longer than three seconds.
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Episode 437: Annie Särnblad: How to Spot Lies and Detect True Emotions in Seconds
So then like a natural instinct of somebody to somebody is if you are caught in this like three second or more gaze on your lips, the natural instinct is to lean in and kiss.
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Episode 437: Annie Särnblad: How to Spot Lies and Detect True Emotions in Seconds
That is really funny, actually. Because my other question was, like, how do you know if someone actually, like, in the dating world, right? Like, how to read signs? Like, does someone really like you? Or do they just want to sleep with you? Or do they even care about you? Like, how, like, I bet you, like, I think a lot of times...
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Episode 437: Annie Särnblad: How to Spot Lies and Detect True Emotions in Seconds
People are not catching on very subtle hints and they make excuses for people's bad behavior or lack of phoning and calling. But if someone just says, oh, baby, I love you, they believe it.
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Episode 437: Annie Särnblad: How to Spot Lies and Detect True Emotions in Seconds
It wasn't. Okay.
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Episode 437: Annie Särnblad: How to Spot Lies and Detect True Emotions in Seconds
That is hilarious.
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Episode 437: Annie Särnblad: How to Spot Lies and Detect True Emotions in Seconds
Does that ever happen? Do people get scared to talk to you?
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Episode 437: Annie Särnblad: How to Spot Lies and Detect True Emotions in Seconds
Welcome. But then what's the difference between someone who just wants to sleep with you versus someone who really cares about you, wants to have, like, a real relationship?
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Episode 437: Annie Särnblad: How to Spot Lies and Detect True Emotions in Seconds
Wow, that's interesting. I like that. I think I saw that you said that that's for your chin is that spot. Now, but don't most people, I shouldn't say most people, don't a lot of people know if you're telling them something that is vulnerable or telling them something that is meaningful or that the reaction that you should give is looking like you care.
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Episode 437: Annie Särnblad: How to Spot Lies and Detect True Emotions in Seconds
So therefore they'll be like, oh, well, they can also, you can also fake that.
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Episode 437: Annie Särnblad: How to Spot Lies and Detect True Emotions in Seconds
Like if someone said to me something terrible, like, oh, you know, like I'm, you know, my house was just burnt down. I'd be like, oh my God, that's horrible. Like, I mean, that doesn't necessarily, go ahead.
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Episode 437: Annie Särnblad: How to Spot Lies and Detect True Emotions in Seconds
We do intuitively. That's why I find this very interesting, right? Because I think that naturally a lot of us don't trust our own intuition, right? Like you feel it when someone likes you, doesn't like you, if we should do something, not do something, if something's safe. Like what I find, you know what I mean?
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Episode 437: Annie Särnblad: How to Spot Lies and Detect True Emotions in Seconds
What I think is interesting, you know, you talk about this and what I really, what I kind of glommed onto when I found you was, was about the kids piece, right? Like teaching kids what to look for and how to be safe. And like teaching this to children at a young age so like they don't get themselves into a situation that's dangerous, right? Like what to look for.
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Episode 437: Annie Särnblad: How to Spot Lies and Detect True Emotions in Seconds
Like what do you teach kids what to look for that is not safe? That's the first part. It's part A. The second part of that question is what... Can you do the same type of training for somebody online as you can in person? Can you still pick up on these micro expressions as easily online?
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Episode 437: Annie Särnblad: How to Spot Lies and Detect True Emotions in Seconds
Really? Women don't get nervous if they have shame?
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Episode 437: Annie Särnblad: How to Spot Lies and Detect True Emotions in Seconds
Thank you.
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Episode 437: Annie Särnblad: How to Spot Lies and Detect True Emotions in Seconds
Thank you.
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Episode 437: Annie Särnblad: How to Spot Lies and Detect True Emotions in Seconds
Or I think also probably women wear their emotions on their sleeves probably more, so it's more obvious.
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Episode 437: Annie Särnblad: How to Spot Lies and Detect True Emotions in Seconds
Thank you.
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Episode 437: Annie Särnblad: How to Spot Lies and Detect True Emotions in Seconds
Yeah, it's so true. I have a boy and a girl and I definitely understand the difference between that. Like you treat the boy and the girl differently based on what's already kind of programmed and conditioned to how you think they should behave, right? Right. I totally feel that I do that as well.
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Episode 437: Annie Särnblad: How to Spot Lies and Detect True Emotions in Seconds
I didn't do that. By the way, I didn't put my hair on the side because you did it while you were saying that mirroring. And I was actually going to do it and I stopped myself.
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Episode 437: Annie Särnblad: How to Spot Lies and Detect True Emotions in Seconds
Is there like a big difference or what's, because you don't read body language, you read facial expressions, which is more telling and which one is harder to, I guess, deceive?
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Episode 437: Annie Särnblad: How to Spot Lies and Detect True Emotions in Seconds
And he was like, what does that mean? And I was like, that's right. The mirroring for sure, though, is a good one. Yes. Okay. So how do you spot, this is a couple of ones I know that you talk about, I think because people are very curious. It's very hot right now, the topic of narcissism and narcissists. And people ask you all the time, like, how do you spot a narcissist?
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Episode 437: Annie Särnblad: How to Spot Lies and Detect True Emotions in Seconds
How can you really tell by their facial expression or micro expression?
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Episode 437: Annie Särnblad: How to Spot Lies and Detect True Emotions in Seconds
You know, it's interesting you just said something that I've spoken to tons of clinical psychologists and experts, narcissism experts. One thing that's interesting that you said, and I tend to agree, but most people don't say that, is narcissistic men who are truly narcissists
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Episode 437: Annie Särnblad: How to Spot Lies and Detect True Emotions in Seconds
will rather be with a very strong girl because it's more of a challenge to knock them down than a weaker, more insecure, docile because those girls are easier targets for them.
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Episode 437: Annie Särnblad: How to Spot Lies and Detect True Emotions in Seconds
That they're so insecure, they wouldn't last with a strong girl. They don't have the stamina, so then they'll go for the weaker girl. The ones who have the stamina and have actually... Because I don't think necessarily every narcissist has to be an outwardly insecure person, right? Some of them actually, they try to believe that they're actually...
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Episode 437: Annie Särnblad: How to Spot Lies and Detect True Emotions in Seconds
Totally. I agree with you. Let me ask you two more questions and then I'll let you go. Cause I know we had so much technical issues. My phone's blowing up here.
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Episode 437: Annie Särnblad: How to Spot Lies and Detect True Emotions in Seconds
I know. I, and I love your, you've got a very nice, nice spirit about you, Annie. I really, you really do. You're welcome. Um, How could you spot a liar in a minute? Is there like just like some like telltale signs that someone can just tell right away?
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Episode 437: Annie Särnblad: How to Spot Lies and Detect True Emotions in Seconds
I'm going to look into him. I love this guy. He wrote the book. Why am I blanking? He's like a hostage negotiator. He's very well known. Chris Voss. Yeah, I like him.
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Episode 437: Annie Särnblad: How to Spot Lies and Detect True Emotions in Seconds
Are you serious? That's hilarious. Yeah.
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Episode 437: Annie Särnblad: How to Spot Lies and Detect True Emotions in Seconds
That's someone that's very interesting, actually. Yeah. That's a very interesting person. That's a sure sign. But... You know, right there.
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Episode 437: Annie Särnblad: How to Spot Lies and Detect True Emotions in Seconds
Oh, you mean Vanessa Van Edwards? She wrote social cues. She's a body language person.
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Episode 437: Annie Särnblad: How to Spot Lies and Detect True Emotions in Seconds
She's very good.
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Episode 437: Annie Särnblad: How to Spot Lies and Detect True Emotions in Seconds
She did. She nodded the other way.
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Episode 437: Annie Särnblad: How to Spot Lies and Detect True Emotions in Seconds
I think that's interesting too because it's not just a one-off sometimes. There has to be consistency. Yes. So like if you're in a sales situation, right? Yes. Right? Like this is a big one for people who are in like business. And, you know, how can you tell if someone is responsive to what you're trying to do and when to back off and when to kind of keep on going?
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Episode 437: Annie Särnblad: How to Spot Lies and Detect True Emotions in Seconds
So what I picked up from this podcast were there's some very universal signs that can play in lots of areas. The dilation of the pupils, the way somebody's mouth is, the way their mouth is up or down. Yep. That like the growl was a big one. Mm-hmm. And the puffy cheeks to tell someone's, like, happy, likes you, smiling.
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Episode 437: Annie Särnblad: How to Spot Lies and Detect True Emotions in Seconds
Like, there's a few very, like, core movements that I think that are just – can play into lots of different scenarios. Right?
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Episode 437: Annie Särnblad: How to Spot Lies and Detect True Emotions in Seconds
Well, thank you for saying that. I find that life is all about patterns, right? Like picking up on patterns. Maybe I'm also autistic. Maybe I'm on the spectrum. Like you were saying, the people that you worked with who had autism, they picked up on patterns quite quickly. Okay. It's kind of fun.
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Episode 437: Annie Särnblad: How to Spot Lies and Detect True Emotions in Seconds
just terrible at me too right like most people I'm dyslexic I can't remember faces I can't remember I can't remember by the way me too I can't remember anything I can't do administrative work I'm terrible at communication the but but observe like like picking up on social cues and observations and all these things like I I feel like a lot of this it's about just like
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Episode 437: Annie Särnblad: How to Spot Lies and Detect True Emotions in Seconds
They're transferable skills, like what's going to be bad in this area is also going to be bad in that area. So all the thousands of micro expressions, it really comes down to like a top 20 or top 10 that are the most important foundational pieces.
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Episode 437: Annie Särnblad: How to Spot Lies and Detect True Emotions in Seconds
And what's tangible, this is what it is also, like give me the tangible pieces that I can implement that can be the most helpful. I'm never going to be an expert or a specialist like you. And I'm going to, I'm not trained. I'm not going to be
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Episode 437: Annie Särnblad: How to Spot Lies and Detect True Emotions in Seconds
memorizing all these things, but there's in any, in whatever anybody does, if you can top line two or three, take two or three great takeaways for the average person to make their life circumstances, whatever, just a smidgen better, 10% better. Right. That's what I'm looking for. And I think you've gave, you gave it to us. So thank you. You're welcome. Okay.
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Episode 437: Annie Särnblad: How to Spot Lies and Detect True Emotions in Seconds
The book is called Diary of a Human Lie Detector. Boom, boom, boom. And her coaching or the subscription service, all that. When is that coming out, Annie?
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Episode 437: Annie Särnblad: How to Spot Lies and Detect True Emotions in Seconds
Check her out. She's great. Thank you again, Annie, for everything. I appreciate being on the show.
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Episode 437: Annie Särnblad: How to Spot Lies and Detect True Emotions in Seconds
It was awesome. Thank you.
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Episode 437: Annie Särnblad: How to Spot Lies and Detect True Emotions in Seconds
And our dinner table is a mess. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I can imagine. Wait, so this is very interesting. You said a few things that I want to talk about. Number one, so body language could be also not just dependent on person to person, but also culturally. Like what you do in one culture could be very distinctly different how your body language is in another culture.
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Episode 437: Annie Särnblad: How to Spot Lies and Detect True Emotions in Seconds
But what you said was interesting, that micro facial expressions, it doesn't matter what culture, who, what age, ethnicity, doesn't matter. It's always the same.
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Episode 437: Annie Särnblad: How to Spot Lies and Detect True Emotions in Seconds
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Episode 437: Annie Särnblad: How to Spot Lies and Detect True Emotions in Seconds
Danger. So you're saying that our facial expressions actually happen before our brain even processes it.
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Episode 437: Annie Särnblad: How to Spot Lies and Detect True Emotions in Seconds
That is so interesting. I think so too. Right? So you can't really fake your facial expression, right?
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Episode 437: Annie Särnblad: How to Spot Lies and Detect True Emotions in Seconds
Okay. So again, I love this. So what's the difference between a macro expression and a micro expression?
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Episode 437: Annie Särnblad: How to Spot Lies and Detect True Emotions in Seconds
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Episode 437: Annie Särnblad: How to Spot Lies and Detect True Emotions in Seconds
Go to LiveMomentous.com and use code Jen for 20% off. Just act now. Start today. Jen for 20% off. LiveMomentous.com. I've been very excited to talk to you, Annie, for a lot of hosts of reasons. I just want to tell the audience, because we're going to go right into it. Annie is, I guess, aka the human lie detector. That's basically your, I guess that's what you're known for.
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Episode 437: Annie Särnblad: How to Spot Lies and Detect True Emotions in Seconds
Italian food tonight I might dip my gaze and just see if you if I get a little no what so this is okay so by the way guys you got to watch the video on YouTube because you have to see exactly what Annie is doing but she was just like kind of pulsing like that what do you call that thing the nasal I
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Episode 437: Annie Särnblad: How to Spot Lies and Detect True Emotions in Seconds
That's a good name for it too. So basically macro expressions are more the obvious ones, right? Like you're disgusted, you're happy, whatever. But the micro are like this, the very subtleties that you can actually really tell how someone is truly thinking or feeling. In the exact moment. Yeah. Okay, so let's go over some stuff here.
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Episode 437: Annie Särnblad: How to Spot Lies and Detect True Emotions in Seconds
So what are signs of like, how do you, what are signs of someone, of a fake smile? Like what are signs of a fake smile? Because everyone is so like, hi, how nice to meet you, la, la, la, la, la. And, you know, like, I personally feel like I can spot it, like, dead on. But I want to know if there are very specific things that you can, like, point to that my audience can get. Yes.
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Episode 437: Annie Särnblad: How to Spot Lies and Detect True Emotions in Seconds
So I would think that faking a smile is pretty much pretty simple only because people know when they should be trying to look like they're happy or look like they're, you know, smiling because they know people are watching them and they can kind of figure it out.
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Episode 437: Annie Särnblad: How to Spot Lies and Detect True Emotions in Seconds
I was going to say, what I find interesting is when someone like, let's say you get good news, you know, this whole thing about like schadenfreude, right? When people actually find like misery in someone's, and when someone feels happiness in someone's misery or like, that's really what it is.
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Episode 436: Tara LaFerrara: Why Strength Training Beats Cardio for Women's Long-Term Health
Hi guys, it's Tony Robbins. You're listening to Habits & Hustle. Crush it! Hey friends, you're listening to Fitness Friday on the Habits & Hustle podcast, where myself and my friends share quick and very actionable advice for you becoming your healthiest self. So stay tuned and let me know how you leveled up. Okay, what's your opinion? I know it already.
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Episode 436: Tara LaFerrara: Why Strength Training Beats Cardio for Women's Long-Term Health
not just me when people do really intense cardio they tend to eat a lot more so how do you how do you kind of rectify this problem right like don't do cardio so they won't eat as much because that's what happens too if i don't do my cardio i definitely won't eat as much i won't be as hungry yeah i think this is twofold the first thing is with cardio are you doing it because you truly enjoy it or are you doing it because you're more chasing the sweat chasing the sweat
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Episode 436: Tara LaFerrara: Why Strength Training Beats Cardio for Women's Long-Term Health
And like I said, it's also better for my brain. Because when I do strength training without doing cardio, I don't sweat very much, like maybe a little bit. And my brain doesn't get activated. I'm not as sharp afterwards. I'll be better if I didn't do anything. But to me, the combo of doing cardio plus strength training in the same workout is like the king.
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Episode 436: Tara LaFerrara: Why Strength Training Beats Cardio for Women's Long-Term Health
When I have to choose one or the other, even though I know intellectually strength training is better for me in terms of my body composition, if I only have time for one, I'll always go with cardio because I know... that I'll make better choices during the day because of it. A lot of times, I'll eat healthier food because my brain is activated better. My mood is so much better.
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Episode 436: Tara LaFerrara: Why Strength Training Beats Cardio for Women's Long-Term Health
My energy levels are so much better. Yes, I'll eat 20 times more, but it'll be healthy food. But it's more for all the mental health issues with it.
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Episode 436: Tara LaFerrara: Why Strength Training Beats Cardio for Women's Long-Term Health
Yes, I do that all the time too. So I, yes, but like I don't do the high intensity cardio like I used to because I also think it like ruins your adrenals. And my cortisol level goes sky high. So again, it's like everybody's different. And then I end up eating way more. So for me, moderate cardio, like moderate pace, I should say, works the best.
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Episode 436: Tara LaFerrara: Why Strength Training Beats Cardio for Women's Long-Term Health
It's so hard though, right? Like we, I think a lot of us know, a lot of women know this already, right? Like people have been talking about the muscle is like the, it's how you stay healthy for as long as possible. Strike training is the king. We all know it. intellectually.
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Episode 436: Tara LaFerrara: Why Strength Training Beats Cardio for Women's Long-Term Health
How do you and how do we switch our brains to actually basically execute on that and kind of like steer away from the cardio?
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Episode 436: Tara LaFerrara: Why Strength Training Beats Cardio for Women's Long-Term Health
I switched from one type of recording system to another for my podcast. I mean, and I hated it and it's like very uncomfortable. It's annoying.
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Episode 436: Tara LaFerrara: Why Strength Training Beats Cardio for Women's Long-Term Health
You don't even have to tell me, but I'm going to ask you anyway. Cardio versus strength training for women.
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Episode 436: Tara LaFerrara: Why Strength Training Beats Cardio for Women's Long-Term Health
And then what happened? Did you just shift it because you knew better or that you learned more, you got more educated? What was the reason?
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Episode 436: Tara LaFerrara: Why Strength Training Beats Cardio for Women's Long-Term Health
I know. People say that to me all the time. And I've seen it. I've seen results where the cardio body versus the weight training body, so different. Like the cardio body is like kind of like flabby and like skinny soft. And the person who just does weights and kind of stays away from cardio, honestly, is like really different. like toned and fit looking and athletic looking.
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Episode 436: Tara LaFerrara: Why Strength Training Beats Cardio for Women's Long-Term Health
Just in terms of just like, if we're just talking vanity, it just is so much better.
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Episode 436: Tara LaFerrara: Why Strength Training Beats Cardio for Women's Long-Term Health
Yeah, that's a great reason, by the way. Do you take supplements? Do you believe in supplements? Which ones do you, if you do, which ones are you super into?
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Episode 436: Tara LaFerrara: Why Strength Training Beats Cardio for Women's Long-Term Health
So creatine is an interesting one, right? Because creatine, everyone knows creatine as kind of like a male supplement. But it's the most researched supplement on the planet. And the research I've seen is incredible for your cognitive benefits that you're getting with creatine. But women are still very frightened of taking it.
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Episode 436: Tara LaFerrara: Why Strength Training Beats Cardio for Women's Long-Term Health
And, you know, the truth is like it kind of could bloat you if you take too much because that's one of the complaints. Do you not find that happens with you?
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Episode 436: Tara LaFerrara: Why Strength Training Beats Cardio for Women's Long-Term Health
And what have you seen the benefits of creatine, of you taking creatine have done?
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Episode 436: Tara LaFerrara: Why Strength Training Beats Cardio for Women's Long-Term Health
Really? Yeah. How about magnesium for sleep?
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Episode 436: Tara LaFerrara: Why Strength Training Beats Cardio for Women's Long-Term Health
So in terms of protein, are you a protein shake person or are you more of an animal protein? What's your take on that? Protein?
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Episode 436: Tara LaFerrara: Why Strength Training Beats Cardio for Women's Long-Term Health
But the other thing about, well, the thing with me with cardio is I feel better after I do cardio because you sweat more. Also for my cognitive, for your mental health, for your brain to like, for my brain to like really kind of activate, I need to do cardio.
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Episode 436: Tara LaFerrara: Why Strength Training Beats Cardio for Women's Long-Term Health
The downside of doing cardio is that I get so hungry and I end up eating triple the calories that I would otherwise not have had because of the amount of calories burned, right? So there's like this like weird balance that you have to do, right? Like you have to constantly balance out. Like if I do really intense cardio, right?
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Episode 428: Kris Gethin: Biohacking Myths, Stem Cell Therapy + The Truth About Cardio
Hi guys, it's Tony Robbins. You're listening to Habits & Hustle. Crush it! Hey friends, you're listening to Fitness Friday on the Habits & Hustle podcast where myself and my friends share quick and very actionable advice for you becoming your healthiest self. So stay tuned and let me know how you leveled up. Thank you so much for having me.
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Episode 428: Kris Gethin: Biohacking Myths, Stem Cell Therapy + The Truth About Cardio
Wow. Yeah, I know a doctor. His name is Dr. Adil Khan. He does it out of Cabo. Yes, I know. Do you know him?
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Episode 428: Kris Gethin: Biohacking Myths, Stem Cell Therapy + The Truth About Cardio
Exactly, exactly. Does he use the same stem cells as the ones that you were just talking about?
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Episode 428: Kris Gethin: Biohacking Myths, Stem Cell Therapy + The Truth About Cardio
He called them mu cells.
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Episode 428: Kris Gethin: Biohacking Myths, Stem Cell Therapy + The Truth About Cardio
It is different. Okay. So you're saying that would be the one that's the most underrated, right?
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Episode 428: Kris Gethin: Biohacking Myths, Stem Cell Therapy + The Truth About Cardio
Oh, wow. So for three months, you're like incapacitated to do anything in that space. Oh, wow.
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Episode 428: Kris Gethin: Biohacking Myths, Stem Cell Therapy + The Truth About Cardio
So this is actually, I think, the real, the first or second time, I think at Darshan's, we actually met more formally. But, you know, this is our second formally, you know, meeting each other. So thank you for being on the podcast.
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Episode 428: Kris Gethin: Biohacking Myths, Stem Cell Therapy + The Truth About Cardio
Oh, absolutely. So, you know, what's interesting about you is that you do like a whole plethora of different fitness modalities. You know, you do the ultra marathons, you do the iron marathons, you do the bodybuilding, which is so interesting because typically you meet people who are in the fitness business or who are either or. They either do the endurance or they do the bodybuilding.
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Episode 428: Kris Gethin: Biohacking Myths, Stem Cell Therapy + The Truth About Cardio
You're like this hybrid that's very unique.
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Episode 428: Kris Gethin: Biohacking Myths, Stem Cell Therapy + The Truth About Cardio
Yeah, right. You know, it's funny that you're saying this because, you know, I think one of the biggest myths out there is that too much cardio, or maybe it's not a myth, you tell me, I think you're living proof of it, that if you do too much cardio, it breaks down all your muscle. And so, you know, that's why you see a lot of runners who are kind of like skinny, fat, flabby.
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Episode 428: Kris Gethin: Biohacking Myths, Stem Cell Therapy + The Truth About Cardio
But you're kind of like the antithesis of that, right? You're like super muscular and yet you're doing like 100 mile runs. So I'm going to bring it back to you. Is it, in your opinion, a myth that cardio does break down too much muscle?
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Episode 428: Kris Gethin: Biohacking Myths, Stem Cell Therapy + The Truth About Cardio
So are you saying that the reason why people break down muscle when they're doing too much cardio is because they're not looking at their nutrition, they're not eating appropriately?
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Episode 428: Kris Gethin: Biohacking Myths, Stem Cell Therapy + The Truth About Cardio
Right. So because you also, when you were bodybuilding, you were doing it naturally, right? You weren't taking anything at all, right? And so how would I word this? What is, in your opinion, the best way to, to be lean, muscular, naturally? Like, what are the steps that people can take, especially as they age, right?
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Episode 428: Kris Gethin: Biohacking Myths, Stem Cell Therapy + The Truth About Cardio
Besides eating enough, I mean, besides protein intake, give me the step-by-step protocol to be lean, fit, and, you know, strong.
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Episode 428: Kris Gethin: Biohacking Myths, Stem Cell Therapy + The Truth About Cardio
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Episode 428: Kris Gethin: Biohacking Myths, Stem Cell Therapy + The Truth About Cardio
Oh my God, you said so much. There are like a million questions. So you're saying one of the best ways to lower your insulin is taking a cold bath or a cold plunge first thing in the morning.
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Episode 428: Kris Gethin: Biohacking Myths, Stem Cell Therapy + The Truth About Cardio
What do you think is the most overrated biohacking modality out there right now?
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Episode 428: Kris Gethin: Biohacking Myths, Stem Cell Therapy + The Truth About Cardio
They don't sell every supplement under the sun because they believe in nailing the basics with rock-solid consistency, and those basics are protein and creatine. Momentous sources Creapure, the purest form of creatine monohydrate available, an absolute must for both men and women who want peak physical and cognitive performance.
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Episode 428: Kris Gethin: Biohacking Myths, Stem Cell Therapy + The Truth About Cardio
No, and I agree with you. I think everything has become like more is not more. You know what I mean? Like less is still more. And I think you're right. When I go to these biohacking conferences, it's like you're not seeing the athletic crowd, right?
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Episode 428: Kris Gethin: Biohacking Myths, Stem Cell Therapy + The Truth About Cardio
You're seeing people who have a lot of extra disposable income and they're looking for sometimes the magic bullet or the easy way out to even reverse your biological age, right? What would you say is the most underrated biohacking modality?
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Episode 428: Kris Gethin: Biohacking Myths, Stem Cell Therapy + The Truth About Cardio
Not really. No. Give me another. No.
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Episode 428: Kris Gethin: Biohacking Myths, Stem Cell Therapy + The Truth About Cardio
I was going to say, where are you going to get your stem cells and what kind are you using? And the other part of the question is, why are you getting them every two years? Do they only last you two years and then you have to redo it again? That seems like an expensive modality just to do, you know, if you have to keep on doing it over and over again so quickly.
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Episode 428: Kris Gethin: Biohacking Myths, Stem Cell Therapy + The Truth About Cardio
So if you're serious about leveling up, go to LiveMomentous.com and use code Jen for 20% off. Just act now. Start today. Jen for 20% off. LiveMomentous.com. Okay, guys, we have today, we have Chris Gethin, who I've met, actually met many times in the last five years. Our paths have crossed without really knowing it.
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Episode 444: The GLP-1 Triple Threat: Maximizing Benefits with Hormones, Strength Training, and Proper Dosing
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Honestly, it could be anybody at this point. It could be Anne over here who turned off your Instagram.
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Episode 444: The GLP-1 Triple Threat: Maximizing Benefits with Hormones, Strength Training, and Proper Dosing
It shuts off the noise in your brain. That's what I've heard.
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Episode 444: The GLP-1 Triple Threat: Maximizing Benefits with Hormones, Strength Training, and Proper Dosing
It shuts off the noise. So all these things that are your vices or your addictions, because food can be a massive addiction, right? Just how alcohol or drugs. And if it's shutting – it quiets your brain, actually, it can really save somebody's, like, mental health in that way itself.
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Episode 444: The GLP-1 Triple Threat: Maximizing Benefits with Hormones, Strength Training, and Proper Dosing
Right? My only thing I'm curious about is can your body become acclimated? And then, like – because I've also seen friends of mine – who it was great. And then after now six months of using it, they're eating again how they used to eat. Not because they're necessary. It's habitual. Because eventually you go back to your habits of what you used to do, right?
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Episode 444: The GLP-1 Triple Threat: Maximizing Benefits with Hormones, Strength Training, and Proper Dosing
Yeah.
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Episode 444: The GLP-1 Triple Threat: Maximizing Benefits with Hormones, Strength Training, and Proper Dosing
It's dosing and management. Yeah, I think so. Then let's talk about, you were saying... Middle age, right? Like you're saying, like, how can we use the GLP-1s to really maximize what's happening in perimetopause or even menopause for people who are going through that? I know we kind of mentioned with Dr. Mary that study.
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Episode 444: The GLP-1 Triple Threat: Maximizing Benefits with Hormones, Strength Training, and Proper Dosing
Are there any other tips and tricks or things that we can do, in your opinion, to really kind of get us the biggest bang for our buck?
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Episode 444: The GLP-1 Triple Threat: Maximizing Benefits with Hormones, Strength Training, and Proper Dosing
In this Fitness Friday episode of Habits & Hustle, I sit down with Dr. Tina Moore to break down the truth about GLP-1 medications and the hype surrounding them. Dr. Tina is an expert in holistic regenerative medicine. She shares why these drugs are more than just weight loss tools and how the conversation around them has become very polarizing.
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Episode 444: The GLP-1 Triple Threat: Maximizing Benefits with Hormones, Strength Training, and Proper Dosing
Just by waiting too long to start taking it.
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Episode 444: The GLP-1 Triple Threat: Maximizing Benefits with Hormones, Strength Training, and Proper Dosing
This is a short clip from our full interview where you can find the full episode linked in the show notes below. Please listen and comment with anything you'd like. Enjoy the episode. Yeah. I mean, the other thing is, like, how do you maximize the benefits, right?
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Episode 444: The GLP-1 Triple Threat: Maximizing Benefits with Hormones, Strength Training, and Proper Dosing
Hey friends, you're listening to Fitness Friday on the Habits and Hustle podcast, where myself and my friends share quick and very actionable advice for you becoming your healthiest self. So stay tuned and let me know how you leveled up. Are there hidden benefits to GLP-1s that the FDA just isn't talking about?
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Episode 444: The GLP-1 Triple Threat: Maximizing Benefits with Hormones, Strength Training, and Proper Dosing
Wow. So what about when people are starting to play around, like they take the testosterone but not the estrogen?
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Episode 444: The GLP-1 Triple Threat: Maximizing Benefits with Hormones, Strength Training, and Proper Dosing
You know what I'm getting from this podcast from you is that it can be very complicated and overwhelming. And it's really important to have somebody who you trust, who knows what the hell they're talking about, who you work with. Because I think there's so much information and that's like really, it's like information overload. It's a lot. Right?
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Episode 444: The GLP-1 Triple Threat: Maximizing Benefits with Hormones, Strength Training, and Proper Dosing
Because I'll talk to you and I'm like, okay, this sounds great. And then left to my own devices, I'm confused. And then I'll go to my doctor who's like, let's say a regular gynecologist. And she's like, what are you talking about? Your testosterone is fine or your estrogen is fine. And then they won't be able to properly balance me. Then I'll try to find someone like you.
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Episode 444: The GLP-1 Triple Threat: Maximizing Benefits with Hormones, Strength Training, and Proper Dosing
And more often than not, and you can be honest- you won't take me like, maybe you'll take me as a patient, but like the ones who seem to know the most are not taking patients. I'm not taking patients anymore. You're not taking patients because you're too busy writing books and doing the media tours and going on the podcast.
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Episode 444: The GLP-1 Triple Threat: Maximizing Benefits with Hormones, Strength Training, and Proper Dosing
Like, if you're just doing all the lifestyle things that we spoke about, like strength training, eating the amount of protein you should be eating daily, microdosing it or taking a dose that just kind of, like, helps you. Like, don't overdose.
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Episode 444: The GLP-1 Triple Threat: Maximizing Benefits with Hormones, Strength Training, and Proper Dosing
And then like all the people who have all the knowledge or who are the, who are really good are like too big to they're, they're, they're now like media personalities. They're not taking patients.
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Episode 444: The GLP-1 Triple Threat: Maximizing Benefits with Hormones, Strength Training, and Proper Dosing
It's like a shitty situation that it leaves people in. Like, what are people supposed to do? We're left with like these mediocre doctors who don't know what the hell they're doing because people like you are too busy doing media.
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Episode 444: The GLP-1 Triple Threat: Maximizing Benefits with Hormones, Strength Training, and Proper Dosing
What other ways are we able to maximize the benefits so we see the returns long-term?
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Episode 434: Tara LaFerrara: How to Build Glutes, Time-Wasting Exercises and the Truth about Belly Fat
Hi guys, it's Tony Robbins. You're listening to Habits & Hustle. Crush it! Hey friends, you're listening to Fitness Friday on the Habits & Hustle podcast, where myself and my friends share quick and very actionable advice for you becoming your healthiest self. So stay tuned and let me know how you leveled up.
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Episode 434: Tara LaFerrara: How to Build Glutes, Time-Wasting Exercises and the Truth about Belly Fat
Yeah. 100%.
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Episode 434: Tara LaFerrara: How to Build Glutes, Time-Wasting Exercises and the Truth about Belly Fat
Can I ask you a question? How about a deadlift? Before I even go into the next question, what's your opinion on deadlifts? A lot of people think deadlifts are garbage. They're like an unnecessary lower body move. What is your opinion?
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Episode 434: Tara LaFerrara: How to Build Glutes, Time-Wasting Exercises and the Truth about Belly Fat
You love deadlifts. Okay. Can you tell, just like, just to kind of break it down in the most simplest terms, what can someone get from a squat, from a hip thrust and from a deadlift? What are the differences and what are the benefits of each?
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Episode 434: Tara LaFerrara: How to Build Glutes, Time-Wasting Exercises and the Truth about Belly Fat
Totally agree. I mean, the same way. I hate doing it for us. It takes way too long to even get set up. Yeah.
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Episode 434: Tara LaFerrara: How to Build Glutes, Time-Wasting Exercises and the Truth about Belly Fat
So can we just talk about what are some what exercises would you say? And I know let's just say this before we even go any further, like no exercise is a waste of time because movement is so important regardless. But with that caveat, what are some exercises that you think are kind of like a waste of time?
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Episode 434: Tara LaFerrara: How to Build Glutes, Time-Wasting Exercises and the Truth about Belly Fat
Tara, thank you so much for like, you know, stay, you know, kind of like bearing with us. I appreciate you being here. And, you know, hopefully we get this. It works. It's recorded. You guys are listening to this properly. Tara's with me because she's a strength and mobility coach. And we're going to be doing a quick fitness Friday with you. And Tara, it's nice to have you here.
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Episode 434: Tara LaFerrara: How to Build Glutes, Time-Wasting Exercises and the Truth about Belly Fat
Yeah, you're speaking my language. What about abs? I get so many questions about abs, especially as you age, I should say. You know, when I was younger, it was more like, how do you get a six pack? How do you get a six pack? And now it's more like, how do I kind of just eliminate the belly fat that's accumulating in my midsection? I always say personally that abs are always made in the kitchen.
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Episode 434: Tara LaFerrara: How to Build Glutes, Time-Wasting Exercises and the Truth about Belly Fat
It's not made in the gym. But with that also being said, are there specific things that people can do to target abs? their belly fat to get the most bang for their buck in the gym?
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Episode 434: Tara LaFerrara: How to Build Glutes, Time-Wasting Exercises and the Truth about Belly Fat
Yeah. You know, it's funny because like a lot of people think that like they're going to do their five minutes of abs or 10 minutes of abs. I think it's so much more beneficial to take those five or 10 minutes and go for actually a walk or do like, or just do like dumbbell, like doing lunges with your dumbbells because you have to work your stability muscles.
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Episode 434: Tara LaFerrara: How to Build Glutes, Time-Wasting Exercises and the Truth about Belly Fat
Just the sheer act of just moving more, more muscle groups at once. But yet, psychologically, women are working out wrong. We still are in this mindset that we should be doing these bicycle crunches or doing certain aerobic exercises or cardio exercises. When lifting heavy has been proven time and time again, all the research has shown that's how you change your body composition.
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Episode 434: Tara LaFerrara: How to Build Glutes, Time-Wasting Exercises and the Truth about Belly Fat
Don't you, like, do you find that, like, what is your, what do you tell like your women clients? Like, do you find that happens all the time? Like there's so, if people are, the women are fearful of lifting weights.
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Episode 434: Tara LaFerrara: How to Build Glutes, Time-Wasting Exercises and the Truth about Belly Fat
Yeah, I know.
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Episode 434: Tara LaFerrara: How to Build Glutes, Time-Wasting Exercises and the Truth about Belly Fat
Thank you so much for having me.
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Episode 434: Tara LaFerrara: How to Build Glutes, Time-Wasting Exercises and the Truth about Belly Fat
Yeah. How do you know if you're lifting heavy enough?
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Episode 434: Tara LaFerrara: How to Build Glutes, Time-Wasting Exercises and the Truth about Belly Fat
Thank you for being here. And like I said, thank you for like kind of bearing with our new struggles with technology, which, by the way, is always a problem with me. It's actually a user. I have to say it's probably half of it's like just a user. But anyway. Um, it's tech. It's fine. It's tech. Exactly. Okay. I want to start, I have to, I want to ask you about glutes right off the bat here. Okay.
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Episode 434: Tara LaFerrara: How to Build Glutes, Time-Wasting Exercises and the Truth about Belly Fat
So how do you know if you should be doing six reps or 12 reps?
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Episode 434: Tara LaFerrara: How to Build Glutes, Time-Wasting Exercises and the Truth about Belly Fat
Or, you know what, honestly, like in my opinion, it would be, and this is of course my opinion, I think you do all of it. You do sometimes six reps, you do sometimes eight reps, you do sometimes 12 reps because that's how you kind of get that muscle confusion. If you're doing the same amount of reps or the same amount of weight over and over again, you're never going to see any different results.
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Episode 434: Tara LaFerrara: How to Build Glutes, Time-Wasting Exercises and the Truth about Belly Fat
It's going to be, you're going to basically just either your body gets very acclimated and then nothing happens after that.
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Episode 434: Tara LaFerrara: How to Build Glutes, Time-Wasting Exercises and the Truth about Belly Fat
Well, wait, wait, talk about that. Cause I was going to ask you about progressive overload. Cause I think people like, I always say the word, I can never pronounce the word. Oh, hypertrophy? Yeah, yes. My lips can't say it. Say it again. Hypertrophy? Yes, which is basically progressive overload, which they say is the best type of training. Can you explain what that is and...
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Episode 434: Tara LaFerrara: How to Build Glutes, Time-Wasting Exercises and the Truth about Belly Fat
how it works with reps and how it works with weight.
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Episode 434: Tara LaFerrara: How to Build Glutes, Time-Wasting Exercises and the Truth about Belly Fat
Cause me, we taught, I mean, my fitness friends, uh, talk about this all the time and I want to know your, your opinion. What is your opinion? Hip thrust versus a glute versus squats to build your glutes.
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Episode 434: Tara LaFerrara: How to Build Glutes, Time-Wasting Exercises and the Truth about Belly Fat
Right. So let's go back to this whole about muscle confusion, though, because that's what I was initially like, you know, sometimes in my training, I'll do like one for a while for a few weeks, I'll do like low reps, and then another week, I'll do high reps. And a couple days, I'll do like middle, just so my body's not getting used to it. Would you say that?
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Episode 434: Tara LaFerrara: How to Build Glutes, Time-Wasting Exercises and the Truth about Belly Fat
Would you recommend that for somebody so they don't plateau? Or what do you tell people? Like, how do you break a plateau and how do you tell people how they will not plateau?
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Episode 434: Tara LaFerrara: How to Build Glutes, Time-Wasting Exercises and the Truth about Belly Fat
100%.
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Episode 434: Tara LaFerrara: How to Build Glutes, Time-Wasting Exercises and the Truth about Belly Fat
And it's not reinventing the wheel. The funny thing is, especially on social media, right? Like people like are trying to like be as gimmicky as possible. And the reality is the things that actually move the needle and work are the basics, like the boring, boring basics. You know, when I look at the people who have the best bodies, it's because they're doing
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Episode 434: Tara LaFerrara: How to Build Glutes, Time-Wasting Exercises and the Truth about Belly Fat
The push, the pull, you know what I mean? Like, they're doing the basic. They're doing the squat. They're doing the push-up. They're doing the pull-up. You know what I mean? It's not like all these kooky gimmicks with these kooky things. That gets you really, like, it just wastes a whole lot of time.
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Episode 434: Tara LaFerrara: How to Build Glutes, Time-Wasting Exercises and the Truth about Belly Fat
It's very hard. I agree with you. It's very overwhelming. And if you don't know what you don't know. Yeah. But like even me, right, who's been doing this for 150 years, right? Like I scroll social media and I'm like, oh, you know, like, oh, maybe I should try this because people could be great salespeople, right? Like it's so convincing. Yeah. 100%.
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Episode 434: Tara LaFerrara: How to Build Glutes, Time-Wasting Exercises and the Truth about Belly Fat
And you're like, oh, maybe this is the panacea that I didn't know about, right? But it takes you down this whole path. But again, when I stick to the most boring shit, that's when I get the best results.
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Episode 426: Liron Kayvan: The Top 5 Ways to Lose the Last 5 Lbs
Hi guys, it's Tony Robbins. You're listening to Habits & Hustle. Crush it! Hey friends, you're listening to Fitness Friday on the Habits & Hustle podcast, where myself and my friends share quick and very actionable advice for you becoming your healthiest self. So stay tuned and let me know how you leveled up. Before we dive into today's episode, I want to thank our sponsor, Momentus.
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Episode 426: Liron Kayvan: The Top 5 Ways to Lose the Last 5 Lbs
Welcome to another Fitness Friday with my friend Leron. Thank you for being here, Leron. Thank you. This is going to be a really speedy, fast episode on five pounds because how often do people say to themselves, if I can just lose five pounds, the last five pounds. So we want to sit here and do a really quick episode on the five top ways that That will help you lose that last five pounds.
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Episode 426: Liron Kayvan: The Top 5 Ways to Lose the Last 5 Lbs
Okay. My first top tip is tracking everything you eat because it's calories in versus calories out. As much as people don't want to believe this controversy, it really is about nutrition, right? Like nutrition is going to be the 80-20 rule. You can work out all day, but if you're not... If you're not watching what you're intaking, you know, in the kitchen, you're going to be in trouble.
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Episode 426: Liron Kayvan: The Top 5 Ways to Lose the Last 5 Lbs
So really track everything you're eating so you know how much it is. It's very different than eyeballing. And that is a very big thing that can move the needle a lot.
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Episode 426: Liron Kayvan: The Top 5 Ways to Lose the Last 5 Lbs
Oh, okay. We can do that. Okay. The other thing I think is really important is portions. Again, it's kind of in the same vein as in the nutrition vein, which is watching your portions, tracking what you're eating. The third thing is really not eating too little. I think eating too little is where a lot of people make mistakes because they actually end up eating more later on because...
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Episode 426: Liron Kayvan: The Top 5 Ways to Lose the Last 5 Lbs
your willpower and your discipline ends up flailing when you get really hungry and when your body is deficient in nutrients. So if you are somebody who thinks that if you eat less, that's going to actually help you lose weight in the long term, in the long run, that actually works against you. Eating foods that are highly dense in nutrients, though, like I'm saying for breakfast, for
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Episode 426: Liron Kayvan: The Top 5 Ways to Lose the Last 5 Lbs
So for me, one of the ways that when I need to kind of like rein it in, I always eat breakfast, but I eat protein for breakfast. And that protein, that protein first thing in the morning really helps me with my satiation throughout the day. When I'm not eating protein first thing in the morning, almost always I end up eating way more, way more calories, way more bad stuff.
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Episode 426: Liron Kayvan: The Top 5 Ways to Lose the Last 5 Lbs
down the road because I'm starving. So that little thing, wait, can I finish it? That little thing of eating protein first thing really helps me out. So I eat eggs. I'll have a protein shake if I'm on the go. It makes a big difference. And then one more thing. Am I allowed to?
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Episode 426: Liron Kayvan: The Top 5 Ways to Lose the Last 5 Lbs
Sleep to me is a game changer.
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Episode 426: Liron Kayvan: The Top 5 Ways to Lose the Last 5 Lbs
For so many reasons. It regulates my hormones, regulates your hormones, not just my hormones. It regulates hormones. That's a big one. It also helps me with how much I consume, again, food-wise throughout the day.
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Episode 426: Liron Kayvan: The Top 5 Ways to Lose the Last 5 Lbs
Right? When I don't sleep properly, without question, I will eat way more bad shit for myself. And more food, right? Because my inhibitions are less. I'm crankier. I need that sugar. I need that savory. So I'll eat things that are just naturally not as good for me. Makes a big difference. So are those five? That's five. Okay. Those are my five. Yeah.
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Episode 426: Liron Kayvan: The Top 5 Ways to Lose the Last 5 Lbs
Oh, that's a good one too. Yeah, that's a good one. Well, how long? Give me some more details.
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Episode 426: Liron Kayvan: The Top 5 Ways to Lose the Last 5 Lbs
Oh, I thought that 10,000 steps was kind of arbitrary, but I do believe- People don't do it.
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Episode 426: Liron Kayvan: The Top 5 Ways to Lose the Last 5 Lbs
That's a good one though too.
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Episode 426: Liron Kayvan: The Top 5 Ways to Lose the Last 5 Lbs
Yeah, it's all the basics, but yeah.
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Episode 426: Liron Kayvan: The Top 5 Ways to Lose the Last 5 Lbs
I'm going to have six, which is I'm adding walking to mine.
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Episode 426: Liron Kayvan: The Top 5 Ways to Lose the Last 5 Lbs
Walking is a big one, actually. That's a big one. Okay, go on. I'm going to add walking, but if you can add a weighted vest to that walk, it amps up the calories you burn, but it's great for your bone density, great for extra resistance. There's so many added benefits. I love walking with a weighted vest. Yeah. I also like you can multitask. I do a lot of my work calls while I'm walking.
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Episode 426: Liron Kayvan: The Top 5 Ways to Lose the Last 5 Lbs
Super easy and good. Okay, go on.
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Episode 426: Liron Kayvan: The Top 5 Ways to Lose the Last 5 Lbs
I love that. Okay. By the way, I'm a big believer in that. Like, you know, heavy load the earlier day with most of your calories and then light loaded at night. It's better for your digestion too, right? I agree. You know what I think is a great little tip that I kind of forgot? When I have to lean out, a really good trick that I do is I sip on bone broth during the day.
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Episode 426: Liron Kayvan: The Top 5 Ways to Lose the Last 5 Lbs
Because it's super nutrient-dense. It's super nutrient-dense. So I don't feel like I'm- I made Barley Bath yesterday.
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Episode 426: Liron Kayvan: The Top 5 Ways to Lose the Last 5 Lbs
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Episode 426: Liron Kayvan: The Top 5 Ways to Lose the Last 5 Lbs
See, I think it's so nutrient-dense. It's so good for you.
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Episode 426: Liron Kayvan: The Top 5 Ways to Lose the Last 5 Lbs
also you'll never get sick you will never if you're having bone broth on a daily you will never get sick covid nothing will get you and it fills you it makes you it it if you feel full so like i sometimes just i sip on that during the day like i'll have like a couple bowls of that and it will i'll i'll eat less because of it but yet i'm still having those nutrients that i think are so important and i think it's been a really a big game changer when i need to
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Episode 426: Liron Kayvan: The Top 5 Ways to Lose the Last 5 Lbs
That's what I'm saying, but that's something like that was, I'm going to add that on to my nutrient density.
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Episode 426: Liron Kayvan: The Top 5 Ways to Lose the Last 5 Lbs
Yeah. I mean, listen, I still need to eat actual food. But it definitely, it lessens the amount of food that I'm all savage on. See, someone like me, I should say, if you're someone who has a massive appetite like I do, and when you work out a lot, I have a massive appetite, I try to eat volume, right? Like volume is really important to me.
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Episode 426: Liron Kayvan: The Top 5 Ways to Lose the Last 5 Lbs
So what can I eat that has a lot of volume that's like kind of voluminous that is not going to crush me on the calories?
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Episode 426: Liron Kayvan: The Top 5 Ways to Lose the Last 5 Lbs
Right. But also give me the nutrients. So high on that nutrient dense, but has volume that fills me up so I don't go crazy.
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Episode 426: Liron Kayvan: The Top 5 Ways to Lose the Last 5 Lbs
I'm going to add one more tip, okay? Because I think this is really important.
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Episode 426: Liron Kayvan: The Top 5 Ways to Lose the Last 5 Lbs
Try to exercise first thing in the morning, and I'll tell you why. Not just because of the exercise, because it sets you off. You're setting yourself off, or basically that first accomplishment that you did will set you up for success the rest of the day.
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Episode 426: Liron Kayvan: The Top 5 Ways to Lose the Last 5 Lbs
Yeah, so you have a big win. first thing in the morning, let's say, you're more likely to stay on track and do things that will be good for you to get to your goal, then that's bad for you. So like when I'm working out first in the morning, number one, it gets my mind right. It gets my focus right. It makes me more productive for the rest of the day.
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Episode 426: Liron Kayvan: The Top 5 Ways to Lose the Last 5 Lbs
It energizes me and I'll make better decisions the rest of the day because I already had that big win and I don't want to ruin it, so to speak. So exercising as close to the beginning of the day as possible, so important.
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Episode 426: Liron Kayvan: The Top 5 Ways to Lose the Last 5 Lbs
All right, guys, that's it for today. I think that was a quick episode. If you guys have any other amazing tips, let us know and we will include them.
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Episode 426: Liron Kayvan: The Top 5 Ways to Lose the Last 5 Lbs
All right, guys, have a good one.
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Episode 426: Liron Kayvan: The Top 5 Ways to Lose the Last 5 Lbs
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Episode 442: The Truth About GLP-1s and Peptides for Weight Loss
If you want to make fiber a part of your daily routine, and I suggest you do, head to bio.me and use code Jennifer20 for 20% off your first order. That's B-I-O.me. and code Jennifer20 for 20% off. Now let's dive into today's episode. Are you telling me that GLP-1 and, let's say, a semoralin peptide, they're not the same peptide, but they're both in the same class? They're both peptides?
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Episode 442: The Truth About GLP-1s and Peptides for Weight Loss
And so semoralin, you said, so when would someone take semoralin?
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Episode 442: The Truth About GLP-1s and Peptides for Weight Loss
She shares why these drugs are more than just weight loss tools and how the conversation around them has become very polarizing. This is a short clip from our full interview where you can find the full episode linked in the show notes below. Please listen and comment with anything you like. Enjoy the episode. Before we jump into today's interview, a quick word from our sponsor, BioMe.
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Episode 442: The Truth About GLP-1s and Peptides for Weight Loss
But I think this is what people are doing. They're going just on testosterone and or the samoralin. The reason why I'm asking about samoralin was I've heard a lot of people are prescribed samoralin in my world. You said another one, tree samoralin. Tessamoralin. Are they different also?
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Episode 442: The Truth About GLP-1s and Peptides for Weight Loss
Most people – and I feel like it doesn't work for some people. It works for other people. Is that with every peptide? But then GLP-1 seems to work for everybody.
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Episode 442: The Truth About GLP-1s and Peptides for Weight Loss
Are you talking about GLP-1? Yeah, if you... I'm talking about the semoralin and the other one.
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Episode 442: The Truth About GLP-1s and Peptides for Weight Loss
Can you take too many? Can you take, if someone's taking the testosterone, the semoralin, or do people take semoralin instead of testosterone? Or like, my question is like, if someone wants to like change their body composition, I'm going to ask the most basic one that most people want to know about. They want to like get lean, lose weight, change their body composition.
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Episode 442: The Truth About GLP-1s and Peptides for Weight Loss
What would be the cocktail that you would prescribe?
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Episode 442: The Truth About GLP-1s and Peptides for Weight Loss
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Episode 442: The Truth About GLP-1s and Peptides for Weight Loss
Okay, so let's just say, let's just get back to the Ozempic because there's so many questions I have for it. The microdosing or the doses, can everybody microdose it and get a benefit from it?
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Episode 442: The Truth About GLP-1s and Peptides for Weight Loss
Are there hidden benefits to GLP-1s that the FDA just isn't talking about? In this Fitness Friday episode of Habits & Hustle, I sit down with Dr. Tina Moore to break down the truth about GLP-1 medications and the hype surrounding them. Dr. Tina is an expert in holistic regenerative medicine.
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Episode 442: The Truth About GLP-1s and Peptides for Weight Loss
You can mix it into smoothies or yogurt. There's flavors like chocolate or unflavored versions. It's both simple and enjoyable. And I love how easy it is to fit into your busy routine. And it's perfect for when you travel as well, which is why I always take it with me in my bag.
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Episode 432: Kris Gethin: The Natural Blueprint for Building Muscle After 40
Hi guys, it's Tony Robbins. You're listening to Habits & Hustle. Crush it! Hey friends, you're listening to Fitness Friday on the Habits & Hustle podcast where myself and my friends share quick and very actionable advice for you becoming your healthiest self. So stay tuned and let me know how you leveled up. Before we dive into today's episode, I want to thank our sponsor, Momentus.
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Episode 432: Kris Gethin: The Natural Blueprint for Building Muscle After 40
I used to be super muscular, all right? And then as I'm beginning, as I get older, and I've worked out like a phenom forever, like since I was like in my teens, right? And so my body is adapted so well to that. But as you get older, the same things that worked when you were 20 or 25 don't necessarily have the same effects it has when you're 40, 45, 50, right?
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Episode 432: Kris Gethin: The Natural Blueprint for Building Muscle After 40
How do people as they're like middle-aged maintain and also still build muscle and look the same like you? Like you're 50 years old and you're still ripped. And I'm presuming you're not on any steroids since you are natural. No, HRT, nothing like that. Not even HRT? No.
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Episode 432: Kris Gethin: The Natural Blueprint for Building Muscle After 40
Because what I was going to actually ask you, and I didn't want to be rude, but now that you mentioned it, most of the people I know who are in their middle age, like 45, 50, even 55, whatever, who look really muscular, they're on... a lot of HRT. They're on testosterone. They're cycling a lot of other HGH. They're doing a lot of peptides.
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Episode 432: Kris Gethin: The Natural Blueprint for Building Muscle After 40
They're really doing a lot of injectable things to kind of get, really to kind of get them to that place where they can really lean out. How do we do it naturally?
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Episode 432: Kris Gethin: The Natural Blueprint for Building Muscle After 40
Really? Yeah. So, so ways to naturally enhance your testosterone is ice baths, red light therapy. I have this amazing, I use this like tri-light from TheraSize, it's like a bendable red light. Which one do you use? Are you using a one like a panel or what are you using?
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Episode 432: Kris Gethin: The Natural Blueprint for Building Muscle After 40
So wait, if you have all these different body part ones, how does it work? Are you basically just, is it like a, are you in like a blanket? Are you just like have pads all over your body or?
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Episode 432: Kris Gethin: The Natural Blueprint for Building Muscle After 40
I'm shocked that you've never tried that tri-light though from Therasage. It's like you can take it wherever you go. You can travel with it. It goes, it can go anywhere. Your stomach, your balls, your face, wherever you want.
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Episode 432: Kris Gethin: The Natural Blueprint for Building Muscle After 40
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Episode 432: Kris Gethin: The Natural Blueprint for Building Muscle After 40
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Episode 432: Kris Gethin: The Natural Blueprint for Building Muscle After 40
on NSF certification, which means every single batch is tested for heavy metals, harmful additives, and label accuracy. And that's why they're trusted by all 32 NFL teams and top collegiate sports dieticians across the country. Here's the thing. They don't sell every supplement under the sun because they believe in nailing the basics with rock-solid consistency.
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Episode 432: Kris Gethin: The Natural Blueprint for Building Muscle After 40
I've never heard that before. So really, when you got that, when the donkey actually did you a favor when he kicked that gold tooth out of your mouth?
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Episode 432: Kris Gethin: The Natural Blueprint for Building Muscle After 40
Oh, that's true. Okay. And then that gold tooth was the one that had the mercury in it.
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Episode 432: Kris Gethin: The Natural Blueprint for Building Muscle After 40
Wow. So that's interesting. How crazy is that? So all these things could be lowering your testosterone and we don't even know it.
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Episode 432: Kris Gethin: The Natural Blueprint for Building Muscle After 40
Wow. So before I even get into your daily, your own daily routine, you said something earlier in the beginning about how to like, how to kind of naturally lose body fat. And you mentioned, was it Burberry or some other supplement?
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Episode 432: Kris Gethin: The Natural Blueprint for Building Muscle After 40
Actually, can I tell you something? I've never heard of that. And you mentioned this guy, Sean Wells. I don't think I met him before.
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Episode 432: Kris Gethin: The Natural Blueprint for Building Muscle After 40
Really? What kind of retreat?
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Episode 432: Kris Gethin: The Natural Blueprint for Building Muscle After 40
And so can you give me some other, other, because, you know, let me say this. I mean, you know, this is no secret how Ozempic has taken over the weight loss world, right? Like now you can't, you know, you can't shoot a cannon without like, you know, hitting somebody who's had, who uses everybody in their world, in the world, especially in Los Angeles is on Ozempic or one of those GLP-1s.
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Episode 432: Kris Gethin: The Natural Blueprint for Building Muscle After 40
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Episode 432: Kris Gethin: The Natural Blueprint for Building Muscle After 40
What is your take on it? And can you give me some other natural ozempics that people can maybe take without relying on a GLP-1 like that?
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Episode 432: Kris Gethin: The Natural Blueprint for Building Muscle After 40
So many, actually. It's become like the new kale.
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Episode 432: Kris Gethin: The Natural Blueprint for Building Muscle After 40
Yeah. You know what I find a lot of people are doing in our industry, like the health and fitness industry? They are on it and they're microdosing GLP-1s, right? So they may not be taking the full dose, but they are microdosing it. And so that's part of the protocol of them trying to look thinner and leaner or thinner, you know. You haven't heard this whole thing?
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Episode 432: Kris Gethin: The Natural Blueprint for Building Muscle After 40
You don't know a lot of people who are microdosing it?
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Episode 432: Kris Gethin: The Natural Blueprint for Building Muscle After 40
The people I know are microdosing both of those, you know, one has nothing to do with the other. So then what are some natural ways we can get the same effects that maybe a ozempic will give, but still maintain our muscle and be more natural and things that we can maintain?
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Episode 424: Liron Kayvan: The Top Nutrition Mistakes to Avoid + Are Seed Oils Bad for You?
And fiber is like a major macro ingredient, a macronutrient that's so important. And it helps with keeping you full and your digestion and your gut.
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Episode 424: Liron Kayvan: The Top Nutrition Mistakes to Avoid + Are Seed Oils Bad for You?
So besides just making sure you are eating enough protein, make sure you're eating enough fiber. And if you can't eat fiber, then get a supplement that can help you with getting that fiber because it keeps you full longer, faster, not faster, but longer. It helps with your absorption of your nutrients.
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Episode 424: Liron Kayvan: The Top Nutrition Mistakes to Avoid + Are Seed Oils Bad for You?
So if you're not absorbing your nutrients, the other problem is that you may eat more because you don't feel like you're eating properly. Does that make sense? Yeah.
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Episode 424: Liron Kayvan: The Top Nutrition Mistakes to Avoid + Are Seed Oils Bad for You?
And I think they say what you should be eating between 25 and 30 grams of fiber per day. Right now, I guess, depending on the size of the person. But I think if you can do that, like that's why incorporating fruits and vegetables is so important. Taking a supplement. That's where I think where the supplements come.
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Like I was saying earlier, I think sometimes we're supplementing not for our body, but for what people think is like what's popular. Right. Like you're taking the trendiest supplement.
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supplement yeah some really age obscure thing right versus what your body actually what you actually need like if you know you're somebody's not eating enough fiber then take that as a supplement if you're somebody's not eating enough fats like fatty fish then you could have like take an omega like making sure you're supplementing for yourself will help balance out your your nutrition or your nutrients properly that makes sense
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I think those are good ones. What else did we miss? Eating enough protein, eating enough fiber. Don't overly restrict your calories. That's another big one. I think people sometimes think in order to lose weight, they have to eat less. That's another big common myth because sometimes what happens is we end up eating more down the road because we're trying to eat less at a certain time.
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Episode 424: Liron Kayvan: The Top Nutrition Mistakes to Avoid + Are Seed Oils Bad for You?
Welcome back to Fitness Fridays. And I am joined yet again by my friend, Liron. Thank you for coming, Liron.
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Episode 424: Liron Kayvan: The Top Nutrition Mistakes to Avoid + Are Seed Oils Bad for You?
That's different than deprivation.
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No, that's different though. Like, for example, you're like, okay, I'm only going to have this one egg for breakfast, right? Versus having the egg, the avocado, the piece of whole grain toast. That's different. Deprivation is like, I'm not going to eat that piece of chocolate. I'm not going to eat that piece of chocolate. And then you end up like, you know, binging on a chocolate cake.
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This is different. I think that like, there's a misconception, a big nutrition mistake is that like, eating less is more. Actually, sometimes eating more is more.
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Episode 424: Liron Kayvan: The Top Nutrition Mistakes to Avoid + Are Seed Oils Bad for You?
Liron also has a gym in LA. It's called Beyond Fitness. Beyond Fitness LA, yeah.
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Oh, I know. Well, that to me is a bunch of nonsense. We're going to do a podcast about that right now, which is like these like crazy, like, you know, myths and debunking some of these things.
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You'd think I'd know the name by now, but...
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I was just going to say that, you know, it's funny. I was just going to say that because actually what I was actually going to say, what you were saying is like, I have, and I agree with what you were saying, but I also think that there's a little bit of a caveat to that. And that is, it's really important to have, I eat, I'm, I eat very boring, right?
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Episode 424: Liron Kayvan: The Top Nutrition Mistakes to Avoid + Are Seed Oils Bad for You?
Like I eat the same things over and over again.
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To anybody it's boring, right? Like I eat the same thing over and over again. But I will say that I do, even though I think it's important, I do think that I did my body an injustice, which is like, I think variety actually works better overall for your overall health. Like, because if you're not eating a variety of foods, you might be missing out on some nutrients that, that you otherwise need.
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Episode 424: Liron Kayvan: The Top Nutrition Mistakes to Avoid + Are Seed Oils Bad for You?
I do. I actually do. But it's super easy when you're here because it's so easy. We've known each other for so long. We're also neighbors. We're also neighbors. And we just like to blab about all things health and fitness. But today we're going to be covering a lot on nutrition because I think people are making big mistakes with their nutrition. Agreed.
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Episode 424: Liron Kayvan: The Top Nutrition Mistakes to Avoid + Are Seed Oils Bad for You?
Like for me, forever, I would have like, I love asparagus and chicken, or like, you know, asparagus and salmon. But like I missed out on a whole, you know, rainbow of other vegetables that are really important.
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Literally rainbow, like all the colors. Like I feel like it's really important to incorporate vegetables
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I also think though, though people do that. I think that's also because if it looks good, people are, it's more enticing to eat. For sure. Because we're wired to eat foods based visually. Yeah. You know, I recently went to a restaurant here. I'm really, I'm so upset about this. I really am.
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Episode 424: Liron Kayvan: The Top Nutrition Mistakes to Avoid + Are Seed Oils Bad for You?
Like, first of all, I go to this restaurant like at least five times a week for, like this to me was like the thing that I thought it was the cleanest version, right? Like it was, I get a chicken kebab and salad, right? And I loved it. I loved the chicken and the garlic sauce on the side. And it was like, it's something that I felt like was the healthiest version, like at the restaurant.
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Episode 424: Liron Kayvan: The Top Nutrition Mistakes to Avoid + Are Seed Oils Bad for You?
So I would, I would like force people to go with me. Like whenever I do go out to eat.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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I love it. I love the garlic sauce with the white. Oh, it's good. It's good. It's delicious. So I would literally force whoever I would be having like a meal with. I'd be like, let's go to this restaurant. Right. And recently I found out and the chicken is like they grilled the chicken in front of you. Like they put it on the barbecue.
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Episode 424: Liron Kayvan: The Top Nutrition Mistakes to Avoid + Are Seed Oils Bad for You?
And I'm like, and I was like, I thought it was super healthy, right? And I asked them, I'm like, what's in the marinade? It's so delicious. And like, I've asked a couple of times and I got the basics the first time. Oh, it's olive oil. We put some yogurt in it.
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Episode 424: Liron Kayvan: The Top Nutrition Mistakes to Avoid + Are Seed Oils Bad for You?
Yeah. Okay. No. But then they told me that they're like, the one guy was like, and we use egg color number 40. I'm like, huh? And he's like, I'm like, it wasn't, I'm like, isn't this saffron, the color? I'm like, they're like, no, it's yellow egg 40. I'm like, what are you talking about? He goes in the back. I'm like, let me see what you're talking about.
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Episode 424: Liron Kayvan: The Top Nutrition Mistakes to Avoid + Are Seed Oils Bad for You?
He brings out, he brought, yes, he brought out the food coloring that they add to the recipe to make it look yellow, to make it look like they're using saffron. Yeah. Because saffron is really- Saffron's expensive.
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Episode 424: Liron Kayvan: The Top Nutrition Mistakes to Avoid + Are Seed Oils Bad for You?
Well, saffron's a really expensive spice, right?
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Episode 424: Liron Kayvan: The Top Nutrition Mistakes to Avoid + Are Seed Oils Bad for You?
Okay, but the chicken skewer is $22. It's not like it's so cheap. And I assumed that it was like a spice that they were using. I told, he broke my heart when he brought out the egg color number 40, like the egg yolk- To make it a little yellow? To make it yellow.
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Episode 424: Liron Kayvan: The Top Nutrition Mistakes to Avoid + Are Seed Oils Bad for You?
And because of that, they're not reaching their overall health goals. 80% of your goals, fitness-wise, body-wise, comes from your nutrition. It's not... You're not going to be making... That's what they say, like, abs are made in the kitchen. They're not made at the gym. And you can be squatting all day. And you can be lunging all night. But if you're not eating properly, then good luck to you.
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Episode 424: Liron Kayvan: The Top Nutrition Mistakes to Avoid + Are Seed Oils Bad for You?
No, in the marinade that he marinates the chicken in. And so it took me four people to get me to the actual answer. The first three people just said, oh, it's olive oil and lemon juice. They use all the basic ingredients. So I thought, oh, great. But it was the actual, the guy told me that.
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Episode 424: Liron Kayvan: The Top Nutrition Mistakes to Avoid + Are Seed Oils Bad for You?
But wait, isn't that horrible?
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Why not?
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Okay, who?
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Oh, I love that place.
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I want to know.
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Why do you think that?
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Episode 424: Liron Kayvan: The Top Nutrition Mistakes to Avoid + Are Seed Oils Bad for You?
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Episode 424: Liron Kayvan: The Top Nutrition Mistakes to Avoid + Are Seed Oils Bad for You?
So that's really interesting. So to me, there's a fine line between being, is that deception? Because people are going to California. And I'll tell you why. People are going to California Chicken Cafe. For me, it's called the Peter Grill. And I would go there all the time. And I was really, like, I thought I was like doing a healthy thing for myself.
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Episode 424: Liron Kayvan: The Top Nutrition Mistakes to Avoid + Are Seed Oils Bad for You?
And so... I really wanted to do an episode, a fast episode, short episode on, I believe, the top nutrition mistakes that people are making. And then you can tell me what you think, okay? How's that sound? Sounds great. I believe some of the top nutrition mistakes that people are making that really can overhaul your overall goals if you just watch on these. The first one is your portions.
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Episode 424: Liron Kayvan: The Top Nutrition Mistakes to Avoid + Are Seed Oils Bad for You?
Like, I thought like, this is like, I'm going here because I believed it to be the healthier option. I didn't think that they would be using that ingredient like food coloring. Like to me, I think there is like a level of deception because people are going to these places because they think they're doing something healthy for themselves. I agree with you though. It is deception.
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Episode 424: Liron Kayvan: The Top Nutrition Mistakes to Avoid + Are Seed Oils Bad for You?
It's not the restaurant's job to make me healthy. I hear that. And I think it's like their job is for their bottom line and for their profit. Absolutely. But there is something to be said for these places that kind of position themselves as like healthy options. And then they're doing things that are kind of not that healthy.
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Episode 424: Liron Kayvan: The Top Nutrition Mistakes to Avoid + Are Seed Oils Bad for You?
I know.
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Episode 424: Liron Kayvan: The Top Nutrition Mistakes to Avoid + Are Seed Oils Bad for You?
I agree. But this is where the fine line becomes, right? I believe that we all have to take ownership for our own health for sure, right? And I don't disagree with you. I believe, though, that if someone is under the impression that they are doing something healthy for you and they're not outwardly giving you the facts— We should all be our own investigative journalists.
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Episode 424: Liron Kayvan: The Top Nutrition Mistakes to Avoid + Are Seed Oils Bad for You?
I didn't get to the bottom of what those ingredients were in that chicken skewer, how they marinate the chicken, until I asked four different people. The first three people did not disclose the food coloring. And it's not like it's a recipe that they're putting on the door saying, by the way, this is the ingredients. enter at your own risk, right?
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Episode 424: Liron Kayvan: The Top Nutrition Mistakes to Avoid + Are Seed Oils Bad for You?
So I had to like literally go to like the fourth person who then at least gave me the truth. I don't think that's fair. Just like if at the chicken cafe or wherever, they're saying to you, oh, you know what? We're using olive oil. But are they?
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Episode 424: Liron Kayvan: The Top Nutrition Mistakes to Avoid + Are Seed Oils Bad for You?
There's a deception piece. There is a deception piece. I'm not saying you've got to make me healthy. I'm not saying that the restaurant is beholden on them. No, of course it's my responsibility. But at least provide the facts to me and then let me make my own decisions.
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Episode 424: Liron Kayvan: The Top Nutrition Mistakes to Avoid + Are Seed Oils Bad for You?
But then again, not to get into the nuance, right? Is it practical? No, but then again, it is technically olive oil.
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Episode 424: Liron Kayvan: The Top Nutrition Mistakes to Avoid + Are Seed Oils Bad for You?
But they omitted the fact that there's also seed oil.
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Episode 424: Liron Kayvan: The Top Nutrition Mistakes to Avoid + Are Seed Oils Bad for You?
I know. By the way, Canada too. This is a US thing. Because it was linked to ADD. Yeah. There's a lot, but the thing is like, that's a whole thing right now in the US, right? Like things that are in the US, nutrition wise is not, they are adding all this shit to the food.
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Episode 424: Liron Kayvan: The Top Nutrition Mistakes to Avoid + Are Seed Oils Bad for You?
I think portions is where people always fail. We think we know, we eyeball it. We think, okay, that's a chicken breast or this looks like a normal size of rice or pasta. And we're always wrong. Because if you actually look at what an actual portion is to what we're actually eating, very, very different. And that can make a major difference in your overall calorie intake.
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Episode 424: Liron Kayvan: The Top Nutrition Mistakes to Avoid + Are Seed Oils Bad for You?
That's like a big movement right now, is that because, yeah, I agree with you. Like, they're adding things in the U.S. that they're not. And it has to be from much more of the top. Nothing gets changed in the middle.
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Episode 424: Liron Kayvan: The Top Nutrition Mistakes to Avoid + Are Seed Oils Bad for You?
Yeah, I understand that. Okay, you guys. Thank you.
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So if we are much more mindful of our portions, it will save you a lot of heartache. That's the first one. Another big one that I think is really important is supplementing. I think that we rely on supplements way too much over our actual nutrition, like what we're actually eating. And it's not making us any healthier.
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Episode 424: Liron Kayvan: The Top Nutrition Mistakes to Avoid + Are Seed Oils Bad for You?
I think if we actually ate the nutrients that our body needs, it would help us with our overall satiation. Yeah. Right? For sure. And another, I know this is another big one, and I know you're going to definitely agree with me on this one, is people are not consuming enough protein. Yeah.
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Episode 424: Liron Kayvan: The Top Nutrition Mistakes to Avoid + Are Seed Oils Bad for You?
That is like the real, that is like the number one. I mean, protein satiates you, right? Like if I'm not eating enough protein, I am starving, literally starving. And I think if people would uptake their protein, it's like a game changer.
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Episode 424: Liron Kayvan: The Top Nutrition Mistakes to Avoid + Are Seed Oils Bad for You?
Well, first of all, it also regulates my blood sugar. Like I'm like, I shake if I'm hungry. And the second I eat a piece of chicken, I feel so much better. And I'm a big animal protein person. I think that's like the really, like to me, you don't have to be an animal protein person. You can be eating, you can eat other things that are not animal protein. You can try. You can try.
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Episode 424: Liron Kayvan: The Top Nutrition Mistakes to Avoid + Are Seed Oils Bad for You?
But animal protein to me is like the number one source for my protein.
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Episode 424: Liron Kayvan: The Top Nutrition Mistakes to Avoid + Are Seed Oils Bad for You?
Oh, 100%. And like the other really big one is that eliminating food groups is a real mistake, right? Not eating enough carbs, thinking that carbs are going to make you fat. No, it's the portion and the kind of carb will make you fat, not an actual carbohydrate. Eliminating that from your diet is such a bad move.
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Episode 424: Liron Kayvan: The Top Nutrition Mistakes to Avoid + Are Seed Oils Bad for You?
You have to. In order to having a balanced plan is what it is, right? You can't just eliminate because your body is going to crave it and you're going to eat it somewhere. You're going to eat something else that's maybe not as good for you,
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Episode 424: Liron Kayvan: The Top Nutrition Mistakes to Avoid + Are Seed Oils Bad for You?
Well, I feel like that's a big one, right? Because people, they're not relying on the muscle they're building. They're relying on- Yeah, big mistake, huge mistake. Like, what's it called? Like they're overestimating the fat loss and underestimating the muscle gain.
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Episode 424: Liron Kayvan: The Top Nutrition Mistakes to Avoid + Are Seed Oils Bad for You?
But it's really hard. So I think when you eat carbs, like you're saying, you may lose that water weight, right?
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Episode 424: Liron Kayvan: The Top Nutrition Mistakes to Avoid + Are Seed Oils Bad for You?
So then what would be a good strategy, in your opinion, where we can balance it, right? Because we don't want to overeat carbs or anything, right? Like, by the way, do you believe in this myth that eating too much protein will be bad for your kidneys? No. You don't believe in that?
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Episode 424: Liron Kayvan: The Top Nutrition Mistakes to Avoid + Are Seed Oils Bad for You?
You don't?
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Episode 424: Liron Kayvan: The Top Nutrition Mistakes to Avoid + Are Seed Oils Bad for You?
Well, I see, this is the thing, right? Like to me, like we talked about protein is so important. People are getting their protein, let's say just from like their shakes. Are they getting enough protein then? Right. Because to me, people are exclusively getting it from their protein shakes. Yeah, well, to me, I feel like that you can't just exclusively get your protein from a protein shake.
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Episode 424: Liron Kayvan: The Top Nutrition Mistakes to Avoid + Are Seed Oils Bad for You?
Well, I would think you'd be like, for me, when I have a protein shake, I'm starving 20 minutes later, right? Because I guess maybe because it digests really quickly into your body, whatever. But I feel like animal protein for me is what actually, the animal protein is what satiates me.
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Episode 424: Liron Kayvan: The Top Nutrition Mistakes to Avoid + Are Seed Oils Bad for You?
Yeah, me too.
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Episode 424: Liron Kayvan: The Top Nutrition Mistakes to Avoid + Are Seed Oils Bad for You?
Listen, I love, by the way, I have a protein shake. I try to have a protein shake on the go. Like I have like my, by the way, I have these.
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Episode 424: Liron Kayvan: The Top Nutrition Mistakes to Avoid + Are Seed Oils Bad for You?
But I use these a lot for pre-workout. Yeah, pre-workout, post-workout or on the go. But I need, I have other things in addition than that to that, right? Like I also use like Momentous. I like their chocolate whey protein or the vanilla whey protein. I like that too. You've got to give me that too. It's delicious.
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Episode 424: Liron Kayvan: The Top Nutrition Mistakes to Avoid + Are Seed Oils Bad for You?
No, no. It's just what I like about it, they have this third-party tested. Oh, okay. And also I just like the taste of it. I like the ingredient list. I like all of it. But my point is I do both, right? Because I need the satiation of having animal protein as well. But I feel like where shakes come into place a lot of times is when I need to supplement with more protein.
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Episode 424: Liron Kayvan: The Top Nutrition Mistakes to Avoid + Are Seed Oils Bad for You?
When I'm busy, when you're on the go, you need to have that.
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The convenience factor.
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Exactly. Now, those to me are like big mistakes that I see all the time. What are other ones that you see that people are making?
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Episode 424: Liron Kayvan: The Top Nutrition Mistakes to Avoid + Are Seed Oils Bad for You?
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Episode 424: Liron Kayvan: The Top Nutrition Mistakes to Avoid + Are Seed Oils Bad for You?
So basically you're saying a big mistake is when you deprive yourself. Yeah. it will end up backfiring because you'll end up eating something different or more or badly later on. That's what I do. That's my big thing. I deprive, I deprive, and then I'll go fucking ape shit on something else. Like, for example, I don't want to eat a lot of sugar, but then I'll eat nine pounds of grapes.
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Episode 424: Liron Kayvan: The Top Nutrition Mistakes to Avoid + Are Seed Oils Bad for You?
So that's my thing. I love fruit, and I know people say fruit doesn't make you fat. If you have nine pounds of grapes or mangoes, Yeah, well, you may not get fat, but you will gain some weight.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, the thing is, not even the grapes, I should have given myself something else. Because what I'm using is I'm using the grapes as my sugar supplement. Yeah, sugar food. I'm craving sugar, so I'm like, oh, I'll just have grapes, which then really kind of brings us back to portion, right? Portions, portion. That's why I always circle right back to portions.
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Episode 424: Liron Kayvan: The Top Nutrition Mistakes to Avoid + Are Seed Oils Bad for You?
I think where most people really make that mistake is when they just overeat with that portion. Like I said, it's not so much always just the food. It's the amount. You can gain weight on eating too much healthy food. You know what I mean? And that's what I do, right? Like I'm like, oh, chicken breast is okay. I'll have seven of them. Or, oh, you know, like grapes are okay. I'll have nine pounds.
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Episode 424: Liron Kayvan: The Top Nutrition Mistakes to Avoid + Are Seed Oils Bad for You?
So like overeating is overeating. Yeah, you can overeat good food and you can also overeat bad food. The issue with... You have more wiggle room with eating good food. Yeah. But you still have to, it's more wiggle room, but you still have to be careful.
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Episode 424: Liron Kayvan: The Top Nutrition Mistakes to Avoid + Are Seed Oils Bad for You?
I don't get why that's even still a controversial topic.
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Episode 424: Liron Kayvan: The Top Nutrition Mistakes to Avoid + Are Seed Oils Bad for You?
But that's controversial. There's been times when people are like, what are you talking about? Calories in versus calories out? That's not how it works.
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I'm like, what are you talking about? Of course, that's just how it works. It is how it works because I'm a prime example, right? I exercise like a fanatic. I eat very healthy and But if I'm not watching how many calories I'm inputting into my body versus how many I am outputting, I gain weight.
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Episode 424: Liron Kayvan: The Top Nutrition Mistakes to Avoid + Are Seed Oils Bad for You?
Another one I should think is really important too, because again, we talk so much about protein and we are seem to be remiss about fiber. Like me, maybe I'm eating a lot of fiber by eating all these grapes and everything else, or like, or I'm a big vegetable, vegetable and fruit person. But I would say like there's a crazy stat that like I think 90% of Americans are not eating enough fiber.
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Can you talk about what it is? Because I think no one really understands, like, is it a peptide? Is it a drug?
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Episode 440: The Hidden Benefits of GLP-1s: More Than Just Weight Loss Medication
Right, right, right. Well, I mean, if you're trying to take business away, who makes Ozempic? Who's the company that makes Ozempic?
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Episode 440: The Hidden Benefits of GLP-1s: More Than Just Weight Loss Medication
In this Fitness Friday episode of Habits & Hustle, I sit down with Dr. Tina Moore to break down the truth about GLP-1 medications and the hype surrounding them. Dr. Tina is an expert in holistic regenerative medicine. She shares why these drugs are more than just weight loss tools and how the conversation around them has become very polarizing.
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Episode 440: The Hidden Benefits of GLP-1s: More Than Just Weight Loss Medication
So wait, like, so, so yeah, that's what's interesting. So in your opinion, should everybody be on one of these GLP-1, like an anoxempic form for their metabolic health?
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Episode 440: The Hidden Benefits of GLP-1s: More Than Just Weight Loss Medication
But where do peptides even come from? I feel like the word peptide has become very popular, very trendy only in the last few years. Like before, like five years ago, I never even heard of a peptide. Most of my friends never heard of a peptide. And then in the last four or five years, there's lots of peptides that people are taking, the BPC-157, the CJC-1290, whatever it is for peptides.
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Episode 440: The Hidden Benefits of GLP-1s: More Than Just Weight Loss Medication
There's so many. And I think, number one, it's inconclusive from what I've heard. And so people don't, there's not much, but most people don't know much about them. And so it's scary. And I don't even think people that mass, and I only say that for people who are in my world, who are in the health and wellness space or longevity space or the fitness space.
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Episode 440: The Hidden Benefits of GLP-1s: More Than Just Weight Loss Medication
If I'm like confused, I can only imagine how people who are just layman's like, you know, an accountant working at a
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Episode 440: The Hidden Benefits of GLP-1s: More Than Just Weight Loss Medication
Or someone in the marketing department at like Hasbro.
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Episode 440: The Hidden Benefits of GLP-1s: More Than Just Weight Loss Medication
You know what I mean? Like, what, like, how do you even, like, I feel like, can you start from the beginning? Like, where did it even, how did it become even something that was even to be taken for optimizing your health or for your longevity? Yeah.
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Episode 440: The Hidden Benefits of GLP-1s: More Than Just Weight Loss Medication
This is a short clip from our full interview where you can find the full episode linked in the show notes below. Please listen and comment with anything you'd like. Enjoy the episode. There's so much controversy over Ozempic, right? Most people are like, oh, you know what? It's like the easy way out. You're not learning behavioral differences or habits.
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Episode 440: The Hidden Benefits of GLP-1s: More Than Just Weight Loss Medication
Hey friends, you're listening to Fitness Friday on the Habits and Hustle podcast, where myself and my friends share quick and very actionable advice for you becoming your healthiest self. So stay tuned and let me know how you leveled up. Are there hidden benefits to GLP-1s that the FDA just isn't talking about?
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Episode 440: The Hidden Benefits of GLP-1s: More Than Just Weight Loss Medication
So that's what I'm going to ask you. So like a lot of them, you can't even get in California anymore, but you can get them in other states.
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Episode 440: The Hidden Benefits of GLP-1s: More Than Just Weight Loss Medication
You're just kind of taking a shot to lose weight. And you are on the opposite side of the fence, right? You actually, you're a big proponent of using these drugs.
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Episode 430: Kris Gethin: Why Squats Are Overrated and How to Lose the Last 5 Pounds
Hi guys, it's Tony Robbins. You're listening to Habits & Hustle. Crush it! Hey friends, you're listening to Fitness Friday on the Habits & Hustle podcast where myself and my friends share quick and very actionable advice for you becoming your healthiest self. So stay tuned and let me know how you leveled up. It's easy to lose a lot of weight when you're very overweight.
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Episode 430: Kris Gethin: Why Squats Are Overrated and How to Lose the Last 5 Pounds
I also find that when you're doing too much cardio, you end up getting so much hungrier. So therefore you're eating more calories, right? Cause you're like when I'm doing, when I run, I get ravenous afterwards and I end up eating double the amount of food that I would have had if I just didn't do any cardio at all. So that's like the delicate balance, right?
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Episode 430: Kris Gethin: Why Squats Are Overrated and How to Lose the Last 5 Pounds
Like strength training doesn't make me hungry. It's the cardio that makes you hungry. And that's how, when you're eating too much, like the whole calories in, like you're now I'm consuming calories. so many more because I did this intense cardio session, you know, like how do you delicately balance that?
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Episode 430: Kris Gethin: Why Squats Are Overrated and How to Lose the Last 5 Pounds
So you don't end up eating like a monster, but still feel you get that like release of the cardio, like to get that mental, you know, endorphin rush and that, that all those dopamine, like the dopamine hit without like overeating basically.
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Episode 430: Kris Gethin: Why Squats Are Overrated and How to Lose the Last 5 Pounds
That's so true. I found that to be a really good hack. Like if when I'm really hungry, like having like some type of like sugar-free soda, like takes the edge off, I guess.
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Episode 430: Kris Gethin: Why Squats Are Overrated and How to Lose the Last 5 Pounds
I totally agree with you. I think we eat out of boredom a lot of times or out of thirst. Like if we're thirsty, we think it's hunger. So then we end up eating.
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Episode 430: Kris Gethin: Why Squats Are Overrated and How to Lose the Last 5 Pounds
It comes down to when, you know, when you have that like last five pounds, right, to lose. What are some of the best strategies that you would suggest someone to do to lose that last five pounds?
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Episode 430: Kris Gethin: Why Squats Are Overrated and How to Lose the Last 5 Pounds
Yeah, of course you do, Chris. I see that. I see that. What would you say is the most overrated exercise and the most underrated exercise?
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Episode 430: Kris Gethin: Why Squats Are Overrated and How to Lose the Last 5 Pounds
And I'm glad that you said that. Right. Because, you know, it's really interesting. Nobody will. Nobody usually says that. And, you know, this is why I don't love working out with trainers, because if I'm working out with trainers and they give you a specific exercise, I'll say, like, do this front squat. Right. Say yes. But my body mechanics won't allow me to go as low as they want me to go.
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Episode 430: Kris Gethin: Why Squats Are Overrated and How to Lose the Last 5 Pounds
Or it's because my hips are uneven or whatever that my body mechanics, my anatomy is, is why I can't do it. It has nothing to do with the strength I have or whatever it is. And like people don't take that as an okay, efficient, like a sufficient answer, right? They're like, no, no, no, you must go much lower.
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Episode 430: Kris Gethin: Why Squats Are Overrated and How to Lose the Last 5 Pounds
But like sometimes the truth is like your body structure does not do that particular exercise well. That could be, that's okay. Like I don't feel we have to kill ourselves just to prove a point.
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Episode 430: Kris Gethin: Why Squats Are Overrated and How to Lose the Last 5 Pounds
Right. You know, it's like also like, what do you think of a hip thrust?
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Episode 430: Kris Gethin: Why Squats Are Overrated and How to Lose the Last 5 Pounds
you know, that's, that's how I feel about hip thrusts. I always feel like it's uncomfortable. It's awkward. It takes a long time to get into the position. And then, you know, people are giving me shit because they're like, how are you not doing a hip thrust? I'm like, I don't like it.
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Episode 430: Kris Gethin: Why Squats Are Overrated and How to Lose the Last 5 Pounds
I have other exercises that are giving me a way bigger bang for my buck, but there's all these like absolutes out there. Like you absolutely have to do a hip thrust. You're absolutely have to do a squat. No, you don't. There's so many varieties that if they fit you and suit you better, then you can do them.
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Episode 430: Kris Gethin: Why Squats Are Overrated and How to Lose the Last 5 Pounds
But that's why when you said that, I loved it because what most trainers are like, no, no, no, you must do this. There's no way around it. I'm like, that's ridiculous. It cannot be that way.
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Episode 430: Kris Gethin: Why Squats Are Overrated and How to Lose the Last 5 Pounds
It's beyond. I agree with you. I agree with you. And it takes literally 10 minutes to get in and out of that position. I could have done 50 other things that would have been way more beneficial in that time frame. You know what I mean? And I never know how my neck should be. I'm always hurting my neck and my... Ankles are not positioned properly. It's like, oh, God.
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Episode 430: Kris Gethin: Why Squats Are Overrated and How to Lose the Last 5 Pounds
So what do you think is the most underrated exercise that people are just not doing enough of?
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Episode 430: Kris Gethin: Why Squats Are Overrated and How to Lose the Last 5 Pounds
Wow. So how often would you say you should work a body part? I mean, because we talked about overtraining, right? More is not more. What would you say to get the biggest bang for your buck? What should be the schedule that someone should do?
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Episode 422: Liron Kayvan: Healthy Travel Hacks + How to Stay Fit on the Go
Like they're putting, they're using MyFitnessPal or all these other tracking devices and they're incorporated until you know exactly what it is. By the way, like I always say to them, oh, I'm just eating a chicken breast and I'm eating this. And when I actually put that stuff into the, my daily food intake into one of these trackers.
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Episode 422: Liron Kayvan: Healthy Travel Hacks + How to Stay Fit on the Go
I'm always really surprised at how many more calories I'm actually intaking than not. Like it's always 500 plus more than I really thought.
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Episode 422: Liron Kayvan: Healthy Travel Hacks + How to Stay Fit on the Go
I don't believe, listen, that's how, I'm not, let me say this also. I don't really calorie count because like, I'm okay with like, I'm not trying to be on the cover of, you know, name it, Oxygen magazine or Fitness magazine. But what I'm saying is for people who are trying to lose fat or lose weight, right? Like who are trying to lose fat, five pounds, right?
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Episode 422: Liron Kayvan: Healthy Travel Hacks + How to Stay Fit on the Go
You have to track, you have to see what you're having. Like there has to be a calorie deficit. I think,
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Episode 422: Liron Kayvan: Healthy Travel Hacks + How to Stay Fit on the Go
Well, that's my entire point. I think it doesn't, you could be a fitness enthusiast who exercises and thinks it watches everything you're doing and exercises consistently, eats well and all the things. And then it's those people are like, I don't know why I'm not losing weight. I don't know why I'm not gaining muscle. I don't know why, because they're not tracking it properly.
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Episode 422: Liron Kayvan: Healthy Travel Hacks + How to Stay Fit on the Go
They don't know what their macro nutrients are, what they're eating, their micro, whatever. They're not, they don't know that there's at some point at, This is the truth, right? Like, it's much easier to lose 30 pounds than it is to lose 5 pounds. And if you're trying to lose 5 pounds, it is imperative that you track to see what you're doing day to day.
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Episode 422: Liron Kayvan: Healthy Travel Hacks + How to Stay Fit on the Go
You need to have a deficit in your calories if you want to lose weight. weight. Period. Full stop. There's nothing, there's no way around it. Five pounds is so difficult to lose. I mean, the smaller the amount that you're trying to tweak, the harder it is. And that's why you can't just eyeball things and just, you know, rely on your memory.
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Episode 422: Liron Kayvan: Healthy Travel Hacks + How to Stay Fit on the Go
Like, oh, I had a Greek yogurt here and I had a protein bar here and I had a piece of chicken. Without doubt, you're forgetting things that you're eating. And I think it's a really great tool if you really want to achieve a certain goal. But we can talk about that on another podcast that we're going to be doing. This is about travel. Those are my tips that I think are really important.
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Episode 422: Liron Kayvan: Healthy Travel Hacks + How to Stay Fit on the Go
Stay away from airplane food. Make sure you're walking on the plane every hour on the hour. I'm going to reiterate them. Only drink water. Stick to your routine on the trip as much as possible. Try to stay away from eating every meal at a restaurant. Try and incorporate grocery shopping. Go to a grocery store. Buy food for your room, your hotel room, or for wherever you're staying.
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Episode 422: Liron Kayvan: Healthy Travel Hacks + How to Stay Fit on the Go
Like that to me is the biggest, biggest issue with staying on track with your fitness is when you eat the food on the airplane. It is It's packed with preservatives, sodium, the highest sodium. Like the second I take a bite of that food, I have to open the button on my pants, right? Like it's so bad for you.
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Episode 422: Liron Kayvan: Healthy Travel Hacks + How to Stay Fit on the Go
It will save you so many calories down the road. Is there anything else?
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Episode 422: Liron Kayvan: Healthy Travel Hacks + How to Stay Fit on the Go
Think about the quality of food.
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Episode 422: Liron Kayvan: Healthy Travel Hacks + How to Stay Fit on the Go
I'm traveling anywhere.
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Episode 422: Liron Kayvan: Healthy Travel Hacks + How to Stay Fit on the Go
And also walk as much as you can. Walk a thousand percent. This is point number one. Yeah. Walk to your meetings as much as you can.
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Episode 422: Liron Kayvan: Healthy Travel Hacks + How to Stay Fit on the Go
Yeah. That's why I love going to New York.
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Episode 422: Liron Kayvan: Healthy Travel Hacks + How to Stay Fit on the Go
I love going to New York.
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Episode 422: Liron Kayvan: Healthy Travel Hacks + How to Stay Fit on the Go
Because I walk everywhere. It's a walking culture.
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Episode 422: Liron Kayvan: Healthy Travel Hacks + How to Stay Fit on the Go
you know, you think that like this whole idea of like living in LA and that it's like such a like outdoorsy, nobody walks anywhere. By the way, I have this rule. I talk about this incessantly is that if it's two miles or under, I will not get into a car. I absolutely refuse to get into a car. I walk everywhere. And so it's a great, it's a non-negotiable.
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Episode 422: Liron Kayvan: Healthy Travel Hacks + How to Stay Fit on the Go
That's why I love going to New York. So what I was going to say... is it's interesting because LA has this preconceived notion that it's the healthiest place to live, but yet nobody walks here. They will not walk to the grocery store if it's a quarter of a mile away.
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Episode 422: Liron Kayvan: Healthy Travel Hacks + How to Stay Fit on the Go
To me, I'm like, I purposefully live in a place where I can walk to the bank, I can walk to the grocery store, I can walk to the mall, I can walk to the gym if I need to. I want to make my life as walkable and as simple and convenient as possible for myself.
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Episode 422: Liron Kayvan: Healthy Travel Hacks + How to Stay Fit on the Go
That doesn't sound crazy to me at all. I went to look at a house recently that was beautiful, okay? But it was up in the hills. Not – you couldn't pay me money to live there. Because all I think about is, oh, my God, if I need to go get a carton of milk or if I need to go get something – Very practical way of thinking. I'm practical at the core – at the –
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Episode 422: Liron Kayvan: Healthy Travel Hacks + How to Stay Fit on the Go
core core part of me is like i can't think outside of being practical i'm a virgo that's i am very practical but like to me it's like if i can't walk to to get a carton of milk or if i can't walk to the coffee shop i cannot do it i will not do it it's not just about fitness it's like your lifestyle it's a lifestyle 100 okay that's it for me and you and everybody else guys if you if there's anything else that we're we're missing please
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Episode 422: Liron Kayvan: Healthy Travel Hacks + How to Stay Fit on the Go
Leave a comment. Did you like this episode? Did you hate this episode? Did we leave anything out about how to incorporate great ways to travel and yet still stay on your fitness path, right? Yeah. Let us know. Thanks as always, you guys, for listening. Bye-bye.
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Episode 422: Liron Kayvan: Healthy Travel Hacks + How to Stay Fit on the Go
Oh yeah.
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Episode 422: Liron Kayvan: Healthy Travel Hacks + How to Stay Fit on the Go
Like they say to you- Because it has to last forever.
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Episode 422: Liron Kayvan: Healthy Travel Hacks + How to Stay Fit on the Go
But the funny thing is like even in 2025, right? And they are giving you healthier options on the plane. They're still not healthy options. They're still not healthy options. And you can get your little snack packs, which is like the nuts and the crackers and this and that. But- To me, the best strategy is don't even think or look at the cart going by. Let it keep on going.
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Episode 422: Liron Kayvan: Healthy Travel Hacks + How to Stay Fit on the Go
Don't eat any snacks on that plane. People laugh at me because when I go on a plane, there's more food. I bring more food with me than I do clothing or anything else.
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Episode 422: Liron Kayvan: Healthy Travel Hacks + How to Stay Fit on the Go
Maybe it is, but yeah, probably.
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Episode 422: Liron Kayvan: Healthy Travel Hacks + How to Stay Fit on the Go
Maybe it is, but I will say like, this is strategy and tip number one when you are traveling is never touch the airplane food. Never, ever, ever pack everything in your carry-on. And that's what I do. I pack five. fruits and vegetables and snacks. And I bring everything from home. And like I said, like most of my, most of my, my luggage or my bags are filled with food versus clothing.
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Episode 422: Liron Kayvan: Healthy Travel Hacks + How to Stay Fit on the Go
Like I'll be, I'm much happier wearing the same pair of pants every single day and the same.
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Episode 422: Liron Kayvan: Healthy Travel Hacks + How to Stay Fit on the Go
Yeah. I'd rather have fresh food or quality food. And because the trouble I have is also that like, I don't know what happens on a plane, but the second I get on a plane, I'm starving. Yeah. Is that what happens with you too? Yeah. Yeah.
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Episode 422: Liron Kayvan: Healthy Travel Hacks + How to Stay Fit on the Go
I don't know what, and the second, and then I feel like I'm like stuck on this.
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Episode 422: Liron Kayvan: Healthy Travel Hacks + How to Stay Fit on the Go
And that's, I was going to say, because it's like a boredom factor, even though you can watch a show or whatever else, like you have this like knowledge that, okay, I'm going to be on this flight for five hours or four hours and I can't go anywhere. Yeah. What is there to eat? Like you want to like pass the time.
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Episode 422: Liron Kayvan: Healthy Travel Hacks + How to Stay Fit on the Go
So like ways to like eliminate that honestly is like, you know, like you kind of like have like this, this thing in your, you reframe it where it's like, I'm not, I'm not touching anything that comes on that cart. I have all my snacks. So there's no excuse for me not to eat that food.
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Episode 422: Liron Kayvan: Healthy Travel Hacks + How to Stay Fit on the Go
All right, guys, welcome back to Fitness Friday with my friend, Leron. Hello, Leron.
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Episode 422: Liron Kayvan: Healthy Travel Hacks + How to Stay Fit on the Go
And, like, you're also, like, constrained to your seat. Yeah. And it's like, to me, like, another great strategy is, like, don't drink anything besides water or, like, that's what I do. Yeah. I only have water. Yeah. Because right away, like, I guess the air pressure can make you much more, it changes your body. Yeah.
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Episode 422: Liron Kayvan: Healthy Travel Hacks + How to Stay Fit on the Go
Right. So that's why the other thing I think is super important is to keep your routine as much as possible. Like have like your regimen or your routine and try to maintain it as best, I'm not saying perfectly, but as much as possible. But also while you're on the plane,
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Episode 422: Liron Kayvan: Healthy Travel Hacks + How to Stay Fit on the Go
Thank you for coming.
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Episode 422: Liron Kayvan: Healthy Travel Hacks + How to Stay Fit on the Go
Make it, like, you should set an alarm that every hour that you walk up and down the aisles, because that, again, being sedentary for so long is just so bad for you, right? Like, to me... Stretch, stretching. Stretching, like, it causes, like, I start getting sciatica because I'm sitting too long, like, all of these things, right? Like, you have to make a concerted effort to...
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Episode 422: Liron Kayvan: Healthy Travel Hacks + How to Stay Fit on the Go
I have a topic that I want to talk about that I think is really, really important. And we don't only hear it as often as I thought we could, not could, but we should, is this is going to be an episode about fitness and travel and how to stay on point with your health and fitness goals while traveling. Because the truth is so many people who listen to this podcast travel a lot.
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Episode 422: Liron Kayvan: Healthy Travel Hacks + How to Stay Fit on the Go
to do these things and know that like, okay, I'm traveling. These are my hard no's. These are like things that are non-negotiable. I'm not allowed to eat the food on the plane. I have to walk up and down the aisles every hour on the hour and I'm only allowed to drink water.
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Episode 422: Liron Kayvan: Healthy Travel Hacks + How to Stay Fit on the Go
That will help you 50%, literally 50% with keeping your goals for your health and your fitness by just doing those three things. The other thing is staying on that routine as much as you can. Whenever I get off of a plane, if I'm going somewhere far, I make myself like move my body for 30 minutes afterwards. I have to like walk around the hotel, go on a treadmill in the gym.
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Episode 422: Liron Kayvan: Healthy Travel Hacks + How to Stay Fit on the Go
Every hotel now or wherever you're going has a gym. take advantage of it, like, first thing, I think.
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Episode 422: Liron Kayvan: Healthy Travel Hacks + How to Stay Fit on the Go
No matter where I am around the world, I try to stay on my routine as best as I can. And I work out every day, no matter what, no matter what the jet lag, no matter what the time difference is. I'm talking also about like business people traveling, like when they don't have, they're not with their family, right?
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Episode 422: Liron Kayvan: Healthy Travel Hacks + How to Stay Fit on the Go
It's just, it's really hard to like stay on point if you're somebody who's like a consultant and you're always on a plane.
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Episode 422: Liron Kayvan: Healthy Travel Hacks + How to Stay Fit on the Go
Yeah. I'm talking about like work travel. I'm not even talking about family. I'm talking about it, by the way, all travel, but a big part of that is like work travel. Like I'm traveling a lot for work. I'm going to different places for consulting gigs or speaking gigs. And like, if you're always on a plane, that's part of your, as an entrepreneur, that's part of your life.
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Episode 422: Liron Kayvan: Healthy Travel Hacks + How to Stay Fit on the Go
You know, like you have to like integrate these things to make it a non-negotiable and make it habitual.
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Episode 422: Liron Kayvan: Healthy Travel Hacks + How to Stay Fit on the Go
You have to plan ahead for everything in life.
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Episode 422: Liron Kayvan: Healthy Travel Hacks + How to Stay Fit on the Go
A hundred percent. I also think just because there is such a thing, and I think this is a big one, it's the 80-20 rule, right? Like 80% of what you do is your nutrition and 20% is your fitness stuff, right? So you really have to watch what you eat when you're traveling. If you are, if you really want to, you know, maintain or achieve your goals, it's
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Episode 422: Liron Kayvan: Healthy Travel Hacks + How to Stay Fit on the Go
A lot of it is about what you put in your mouth, not what you're doing in the gym. So making better choices. Now the issue is portions. Again, it's always, a lot of it comes down to portions. For whatever reason, psychologically, it's been shown that when we are traveling, we tend to eat way more than we do when we're back in our own regimen at home, right?
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Episode 422: Liron Kayvan: Healthy Travel Hacks + How to Stay Fit on the Go
So if you're conscious of that and conscientious of that, make sure that when you are traveling and That your portions are not crazy, like half the portion at the restaurant you're going to. Or what I do a lot is I go to a grocery store and I buy a bunch of food and I bring it back to my hotel. And so I'm not relying on like restaurant food that also when you...
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Episode 422: Liron Kayvan: Healthy Travel Hacks + How to Stay Fit on the Go
The more you eat at restaurants, the amount of calories that are added just by the sheer cooking, the way they're cooking the food. The oils. The oils and all the added stuff. It adds up so fast. I go to the grocery store and I buy sliced turkey. I buy myself my fruits and my vegetables and things that I know what is in it.
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Episode 422: Liron Kayvan: Healthy Travel Hacks + How to Stay Fit on the Go
They're entrepreneurs. They're people who just are on the go a lot. And it's really hard to stick to a program when you're constantly flying. And what really kind of gave me this idea was in the last few months, I've been traveling way more than I have in the past. in the last six months, I should say.
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Episode 422: Liron Kayvan: Healthy Travel Hacks + How to Stay Fit on the Go
Does that make sense? Yeah. I love people who know me. I mean, you don't know me that well, but people who know me well know that I'm like, I love the grocery store to me going to Costco or going to like Whole Foods and like walking the aisles is like my like my like happy place. To me, I love it.
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Episode 422: Liron Kayvan: Healthy Travel Hacks + How to Stay Fit on the Go
And so I realize that most people don't love it, but I'm telling you, if you really are serious about, you know, you can't have it both. You can't have it both ways. Like there's always a give and take in the world, right? Like if you want something, you have to like take away something else, right? Like as much as I love to eat, you know, these amazing meals at a restaurant, every single meal,
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Episode 422: Liron Kayvan: Healthy Travel Hacks + How to Stay Fit on the Go
I know what the result's going to be. So I don't do it. I make sure that I'm very reticent and cognizant of making my own food as much as possible. With that being said, if someone, again, you may not like the grocery store like I do, but if you actually try to incorporate that into your travel, it will save you so many calories of eating every single meal out at a restaurant.
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Episode 422: Liron Kayvan: Healthy Travel Hacks + How to Stay Fit on the Go
Even if you're traveling for two days and you're eating out lunch, breakfast, and dinner, even breakfast is much more. That you can make it in your room.
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Episode 422: Liron Kayvan: Healthy Travel Hacks + How to Stay Fit on the Go
Me too.
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Episode 422: Liron Kayvan: Healthy Travel Hacks + How to Stay Fit on the Go
Well, I think that, I think just overall eating at restaurants too much will make you gain weight. There's no way around it. There's no way around it.
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Episode 422: Liron Kayvan: Healthy Travel Hacks + How to Stay Fit on the Go
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Episode 422: Liron Kayvan: Healthy Travel Hacks + How to Stay Fit on the Go
And no matter how much I worked out or ate okay while I wasn't traveling, the travel killed me, right? Like I just gained weight or I couldn't, it was really, really hard for me. And what I noticed that really worked for me, the first thing that really I noticed is staying away from the food on the airplane.
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Episode 422: Liron Kayvan: Healthy Travel Hacks + How to Stay Fit on the Go
If you want to, for like, there are like a very, there's a very like, small percentage of people who are just like naturally very lean. Okay. God bless you people. But for the majority of people, if they want a certain aesthetic, if they're eating out every single meal, there's not a chance that they're going to be able to maintain their overall body fat, their aesthetics.
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Episode 422: Liron Kayvan: Healthy Travel Hacks + How to Stay Fit on the Go
Listen, you can make better choices. You can make better choices. There's a difference though. I mean, even with the best choices... what will happen? You can make the best restaurant choice on the planet. You can go the most organic, the most, you know, farm to table restaurant on the planet. You will eat a bigger portion, way more at a restaurant than you would at your own home, number one.
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Episode 422: Liron Kayvan: Healthy Travel Hacks + How to Stay Fit on the Go
And there's always hidden ingredients that you may not know about, right? Because to make food taste good, they add extra oil, extra butter, extra something, something that you don't know about that you're not taking into account. And if you really have a goal that you're trying to achieve, you have to track what your food intake is, right? Like the people who get to the result are using trackers.
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Episode 438: Tara LaFerrara: Why Quitting Alcohol Is Your Secret Weapon for Better Fitness
Hi guys, it's Tony Robbins. You're listening to Habits & Hustle. Crush it! Hey friends, you're listening to Fitness Friday on the Habits & Hustle podcast, where myself and my friends share quick and very actionable advice for you becoming your healthiest self. So stay tuned and let me know how you leveled up. What's your take on intermittent fasting for women?
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Episode 438: Tara LaFerrara: Why Quitting Alcohol Is Your Secret Weapon for Better Fitness
massive difference you know the bloating the just in terms of this overall what it's just it's the worst thing you can do like i agree like smoke a joint instead of uh honestly then other than then take it like drinking a glass of wine i mean i'm not i'm not saying do either one but if you're gonna if you're gonna pick your poison i'd rather you pick that my opinion
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Episode 438: Tara LaFerrara: Why Quitting Alcohol Is Your Secret Weapon for Better Fitness
Well, I was going to say that, too. I don't think it's poison at all. But it's how you consume it, though, right? Like if you're smoking it, it's not so great for you. If you're vaping it, it's not so great for you. If you eat it, I guess it's much better for you. Or take a gummy. That's way better for you.
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Episode 438: Tara LaFerrara: Why Quitting Alcohol Is Your Secret Weapon for Better Fitness
Oh, my God. I could not agree. By the way, if there's more calories and empty shit in a glass of wine, it's all sugar. You're basically drinking sugar. Yeah. Versus having a chocolate. It's like so much more satiating. But I guess there are people out there who don't care about food and they like alcohol. Not me. That's not me, but...
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Episode 438: Tara LaFerrara: Why Quitting Alcohol Is Your Secret Weapon for Better Fitness
Oh, yeah. I think the number one thing people should stop doing if they want to look fit and be fit and be healthy is eliminate alcohol 100%. Worst thing they can possibly do for their bodies, for their overall, for their skin, for their looks, for everything.
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Episode 438: Tara LaFerrara: Why Quitting Alcohol Is Your Secret Weapon for Better Fitness
And also that people don't even realize that like you may think that, oh, you know, I'm not sleeping well, but that's what that you end up eating more because of it. You end up making bad choices because of it. You're not like the ripple effect is so terrible. Yeah. Okay, one more question. And then we're going to like wrap mobility. Let's talk about mobility.
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Episode 438: Tara LaFerrara: Why Quitting Alcohol Is Your Secret Weapon for Better Fitness
How important is mobility in comparison to let's say the weight training, the cardio, all these things? Because I think that like, as we get older, our mobility, our flexibility definitely gets worse.
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Episode 438: Tara LaFerrara: Why Quitting Alcohol Is Your Secret Weapon for Better Fitness
How?
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Episode 438: Tara LaFerrara: Why Quitting Alcohol Is Your Secret Weapon for Better Fitness
Sorry. What are some good mobility exercises? Yeah.
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Episode 438: Tara LaFerrara: Why Quitting Alcohol Is Your Secret Weapon for Better Fitness
Also, guys, you can Google it. You can Google what a passive squat is. Yeah. And that's really good for your mobility.
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Episode 438: Tara LaFerrara: Why Quitting Alcohol Is Your Secret Weapon for Better Fitness
How about alcohol and body composition?
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Episode 438: Tara LaFerrara: Why Quitting Alcohol Is Your Secret Weapon for Better Fitness
How often should we be working on mobility?
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Episode 438: Tara LaFerrara: Why Quitting Alcohol Is Your Secret Weapon for Better Fitness
How about motivation? When people aren't motivated, how do you motivate people to actually stick to a plan and kind of be consistent with it?
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Episode 438: Tara LaFerrara: Why Quitting Alcohol Is Your Secret Weapon for Better Fitness
I love that. So thank you so much, Tara, for coming on the show. I appreciate it. You've been great. And guys, Tara, tell us where people can find more information if they want more fitness advice information.
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Episode 438: Tara LaFerrara: Why Quitting Alcohol Is Your Secret Weapon for Better Fitness
And by the way, I'm wearing this hat not because I don't want to look at you, but I have a terrible rash I got under my eyes and I don't want to look at it. Yeah, so I'm not trying to be rude, guys. That's why I'm covering my eyes, not because I'm hungover, obviously. Yeah. No, she's not because she does not drink. I do not drink. Exactly. Thank you so much again. I appreciate it.
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Episode 438: Tara LaFerrara: Why Quitting Alcohol Is Your Secret Weapon for Better Fitness
Now, listen, you're preaching to the converted. I don't drink at all. To me, it's the biggest waste of calories ever. I'd rather eat the drink any day of the week. And what it does to your skin and to your body is horrendous. It also ages you 20 years. I mean, people I look at who are like 45 who are drinkers versus not, massive difference.
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The Moth Radio Hour: Rites of Passage
And it was the third one's senior year, and I was sitting at the Flynn Theater in January, and a woman comes to the podium, and she says, I'd like to announce that in the fall, we'll be doing the musical Annie. I was like, oh my God, this is so weird. And right at that moment, my phone rang, and I pulled it out.
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The Moth Radio Hour: Rites of Passage
It was my friend from California, and her name was across the screen, and her name was Annie. I was like, God, this is bizarre. And it didn't stop. I went to the grocery store on my way home, and in the checkout aisle, there was this little retrospective of Carol Burnett as Miss Hannigan.
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The Moth Radio Hour: Rites of Passage
And then, this is all within three hours, I got home and I was exercising and I was watching the show Shameless. And you can check in episode two, season three, they refer to the musical Annie. So I thought, this is just weird. I'm getting these signs from the universe that I should be in this show or something. So I called the kids and I told them and I said, oh mom, you gotta do it.
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The Moth Radio Hour: Rites of Passage
You gotta do that real audition now. Like, do it, do it. And I thought, like... You know, being in a musical wasn't really my vibe, but I thought, you know, I'm going to be so devastated once that third one leaves that I thought maybe this would give me something fun. And, you know, because I'm pretty sure you can't sing, dance, and cry all at the same time. So I thought it could be fun.
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The Moth Radio Hour: Rites of Passage
So I go to the audition. And, you know, it's the Flint Theater, and they're, like, you know, kind of serious. Like, you get a number, and you've got to act, you've got to dance, you've got to sing. So I go to the acting part, and that one was okay. And then I go to the dancing part, and this lady's up there, and she's like, Step ball change, fan kick, pivot and repeat.
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The Moth Radio Hour: Rites of Passage
And I was like, number 212, like, get your arms right. And I'm like, not getting the arms right. And I kind of bump into this lady next to me. She's all mad. It was kind of a disaster. So then I go to the singing part. And you would think that 16 years might be long enough to practice that song. But I got up and was like, little girls, little girls. And I was like, freak.
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The Moth Radio Hour: Rites of Passage
I didn't know what came next. So I went home, and I called the kids. And I said, you know, thank you so much for that encouragement. But we're going to have to think of something else. Because... And I think those signs from the universe were all about me, like, just pushing myself out of my comfort zone, and I did that, and it was just funny. So, okay.
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The Moth Radio Hour: Rites of Passage
The next day, the director called and said, we'd like to offer you two small singing roles. I was like, really?
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The Moth Radio Hour: Rites of Passage
So we started going to the rehearsals, and it worked. You know, I came home from teaching, and the home would be all quiet. It was terribly lonely, and I would cry the dog had even died. It was just horrible. It was terrible. But then in the evenings, I would get to go to my rehearsals, and it was goofy and fun.
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The Moth Radio Hour: Rites of Passage
So then the months go by, all the rehearsals are done, and it's opening night at the Flynn. It's like full house. It's going to be really fun. The orchestra's going. Got my weird costume on and everything. And there's this point in the play when I get to come to front and center, like right in the middle, and the lights are on me, and I just get to like belt out this one big line.
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The Moth Radio Hour: Rites of Passage
And I was a homeless woman talking to Herbert Hoover, and here's my line. I said, you dirty rats, you bureaucrats, you made us what we are too. And then I saw him. Three pair of bright blue eyes just watching Annie again. And I thought, oh, all those signs of the universe. They were just all about this one really nice mom moment that I get to have. Seeing my kids again surprised me.
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The Moth Radio Hour: Rites of Passage
So I got all choked up and filled with tears. But remarkably, I was able to finish my song because apparently you can sing, dance, and cry all at the same time.
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The Moth Radio Hour: Rites of Passage
So when my kids were little, the go-to movie to watch when they were sick or it was raining was, for some reason, Annie the Musical. And I would watch them sitting close together, three pair of bright blue eyes, watching Carol Burnett sing, little girls, little girls, again and again and again. And I told them, I said, you know, when you grow up
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The Moth Radio Hour: Rites of Passage
and you go off to college, and I'm all bored and lonely. I think the Flynn Theater should do the musical Annie, and I could be in it because I know all the songs, like every word. And so this kind of bolstered me into this pretend auditioning for the show that I would do for the kids when I was in the car or on the beach or in the shower.
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The Moth Radio Hour: Rites of Passage
I would sing, little girls, little girls, and they'd say, getting ready for the show, mom? I'd say, yeah. So it's just like a weird family joke. So the years just went by, and the first one went off to college, and that was horrifying. And the second one went off to college, and that was horrendous.