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Episode 411: Professor Scott Galloway: The Modern Connection Crisis + Wealth Building Strategies
What is wealth to you? And what is the formula to be wealthy besides what we just said?
Habits and Hustle
Episode 411: Professor Scott Galloway: The Modern Connection Crisis + Wealth Building Strategies
Thank you. Well, I'm neck and neck with you. You've been crushing. I mean, now you have like, what, three podcasts?
Habits and Hustle
Episode 411: Professor Scott Galloway: The Modern Connection Crisis + Wealth Building Strategies
By the way, this is the podcast. We started. Oh, we're on?
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Episode 411: Professor Scott Galloway: The Modern Connection Crisis + Wealth Building Strategies
Yeah, so your stand-up comedy is very well-received already, and I appreciate and invite it. So yeah, me and Scott, I always send you podcasts. our little top charts and I'm always like right beside you. But I noticed like every time I send it to you, you have another podcast show that you add. So you're going to have the entire business section in the next two months.
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Episode 411: Professor Scott Galloway: The Modern Connection Crisis + Wealth Building Strategies
I love that answer. And then, you know, what's interesting is everybody now, I think also because of Instagram, people are staring at everybody's lifestyle. And it's very popular and hashtag friendly to be an entrepreneur and do all these side hustles. But you actually talk about the fact that you're not such a fan of side hustles.
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Episode 411: Professor Scott Galloway: The Modern Connection Crisis + Wealth Building Strategies
It's exactly what, well, listen, it's working because, well, first of all, let me tell everybody his new book is called The Algebra of Wealth. And if you have not read it or picked it up, you're basically living under a rock possibly because it's so popular, especially in the business entrepreneurial space. Very well done. Amazing nuggets of gold information in there. So great job yet again.
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Episode 411: Professor Scott Galloway: The Modern Connection Crisis + Wealth Building Strategies
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Episode 411: Professor Scott Galloway: The Modern Connection Crisis + Wealth Building Strategies
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Episode 411: Professor Scott Galloway: The Modern Connection Crisis + Wealth Building Strategies
Six people. Wow. I mean, that's a lot of people. And are you like, how are you able, quite honestly, like you're literally like Waldo. Like I was just saying off camera, I check you out and you are in New York, you're in London, you're speaking in Vegas, you're writing books, you're doing three podcasts.
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Episode 411: Professor Scott Galloway: The Modern Connection Crisis + Wealth Building Strategies
Well, I think also the young generation or today's generation, you're talking about balance. There's also a lot of issues with boundaries and all these other very, I call them very liberal woke isms around the workplace. Right. And also people are working now on Zoom. So there's much less balance. interpersonal relationships and people are working.
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Episode 411: Professor Scott Galloway: The Modern Connection Crisis + Wealth Building Strategies
They don't want to work anymore, but yet they want to live the lifestyle. What do you tell people? I mean, you just actually told people, but I think there's a disconnect between what people think is out there and what they have to do. And I don't see the pendulum swinging the opposite direction.
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Episode 411: Professor Scott Galloway: The Modern Connection Crisis + Wealth Building Strategies
I think people are now are becoming inherently more lazy, much more of a coddle culture environment where Everyone gets a participation trophy. Nobody really wants to show that they're winners and losers. That, to me, is actually the epidemic that we're facing right now. I'm really concerned about the younger generation than anything.
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Episode 411: Professor Scott Galloway: The Modern Connection Crisis + Wealth Building Strategies
Yeah. But you know what's happening with that? They're single and alone. If you are a woman who is capable and competent and can do all those things on their own, on your own, they don't want a man because the men out there are there's very few. And the few that there are are going to be wanted by every single girl. So then they're going to go.
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Episode 411: Professor Scott Galloway: The Modern Connection Crisis + Wealth Building Strategies
Like, how are you like time is your, and you talk about this in your book is the most valuable asset. How are you able to do all these things and do them well?
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Episode 411: Professor Scott Galloway: The Modern Connection Crisis + Wealth Building Strategies
Right. So it's like, what do you do? And that's, that's basically what's happening. I know more single great girls than I've ever had in my life. And very few eligible great guys, very few. And the guys I know who I'm friends with, they have the pick of the litter, they can go out with girls who are like, literally more than half their age.
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Episode 411: Professor Scott Galloway: The Modern Connection Crisis + Wealth Building Strategies
And those girls are like vying for them and dying to go out with them.
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Episode 411: Professor Scott Galloway: The Modern Connection Crisis + Wealth Building Strategies
They're taking calls in my podcast. I mean, you're working diligently and constantly.
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Episode 411: Professor Scott Galloway: The Modern Connection Crisis + Wealth Building Strategies
Nothing. I didn't care.
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Episode 411: Professor Scott Galloway: The Modern Connection Crisis + Wealth Building Strategies
100% I could not agree more. This is the truth. But how do you get people to actually implement and execute on that and leave their house and get off of social media and get off of the dating apps and go and do what you just said, which is go to a club, go to a restaurant in real time, get drunk, meet people and do what you know what I used to do, you know, when I was young, right?
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Episode 411: Professor Scott Galloway: The Modern Connection Crisis + Wealth Building Strategies
Like, I feel like that whole that was like what we needed to do. Now everything is just like they don't people don't even want friends are so isolated from even socialization. People don't even know how to socialize anymore.
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Episode 411: Professor Scott Galloway: The Modern Connection Crisis + Wealth Building Strategies
It's really like you can go, I mean, even I bet when you go to dinner or a restaurant, just anywhere, you look around the people sitting with each other, they're on their phones. They're not even communicating with each other or talking to each other.
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Episode 411: Professor Scott Galloway: The Modern Connection Crisis + Wealth Building Strategies
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Episode 411: Professor Scott Galloway: The Modern Connection Crisis + Wealth Building Strategies
You know, the thick thing is just about Andrew Tate and that program. Not only are men like are signing up by the droves, but the truth is, and I'm going to get a lot of heat for saying these things, and I do, but like actually women are drawn to those guys. Andrew Tate has no problem finding women. Yeah, there are a lot of women who hate him, but guess what? He's not hurting.
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Episode 411: Professor Scott Galloway: The Modern Connection Crisis + Wealth Building Strategies
And I can name, and I know a bazillion guys who are similar to him, especially in LA and in New York, who have a ton of money, let's say, and have an attitude and a bravado. That is the reality. People don't want to hear it and they think it's not PC. OK, but unfortunately, that actually is what's happening. And it's sad. It is sad. But that's that's the truth.
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Episode 411: Professor Scott Galloway: The Modern Connection Crisis + Wealth Building Strategies
Yeah.
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Episode 411: Professor Scott Galloway: The Modern Connection Crisis + Wealth Building Strategies
Yes.
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Episode 411: Professor Scott Galloway: The Modern Connection Crisis + Wealth Building Strategies
Yeah.
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Episode 411: Professor Scott Galloway: The Modern Connection Crisis + Wealth Building Strategies
I know it is. It's actually very upsetting. And I think I don't see how it does get... You should write the book, actually. I think that would be a great book because offline or whenever I talk about it, it's a conversation topic that goes on a lot. And I think a lot of people are struggling with it. Not only the young generation, but even an older... in their mid-40s, 40s, who are struggling.
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Episode 411: Professor Scott Galloway: The Modern Connection Crisis + Wealth Building Strategies
Like you said, for every eligible attractive guy, there's not 10 girls, 50 or 100. And unfortunately, with technology and AI, all the things, I don't really see it getting better unless people make a concerted effort to change and reframe how they think and do things. But that's that. I mean, I want to talk about now, we're going to switch gears.
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Episode 411: Professor Scott Galloway: The Modern Connection Crisis + Wealth Building Strategies
We're going to go pivot all the way here to, I would be remiss, I got to talk about Israel. I got to talk about Gaza and the war. You're one of my favorites to be talking to about this. And I want to ask you something, and I've been thinking about this a lot, about the algorithm, TikTok especially, 90% or I think 98% of the algorithm is geared towards Palestine, not Israel.
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Episode 411: Professor Scott Galloway: The Modern Connection Crisis + Wealth Building Strategies
Yeah. I love that analogy. It's so funny. I want to start this podcast because you've been on many times. We talk about we're going to get into Israel. We're going to get into your book and all those other great fun things. But I've seen your trajectory recently has really spiked and people really respond to what you say, your content. What do you think your... secret sauce is.
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Episode 411: Professor Scott Galloway: The Modern Connection Crisis + Wealth Building Strategies
How much of this, the anti-Semitism, the vitriol hate, I think towards Israel is because of the algorithm is pushing certain content. What would you say to that?
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Episode 411: Professor Scott Galloway: The Modern Connection Crisis + Wealth Building Strategies
What is your superpower that's really, you think, why people are responding the way they are?
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Episode 411: Professor Scott Galloway: The Modern Connection Crisis + Wealth Building Strategies
No, I agree. And listen, everything. Listen, you know how I agree with you. And one of the couple of things I want to ask you, because you're in the media, you deal with a lot like your partner, Kara Swisher. I think also she's a journalist and you were having this conversation with her earlier. You said, I mean, why? I guess I'm just asking you podcasts or not.
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Episode 411: Professor Scott Galloway: The Modern Connection Crisis + Wealth Building Strategies
Like, why is the media so against you? the Israelis. And you're saying it's not anti-Semitism, it's anti-Israel. I think it's the same thing. And my other question is, the self-hating Jews, to me, these are the most frustrating. I don't understand it. Just as a human, I don't understand these two things.
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Episode 411: Professor Scott Galloway: The Modern Connection Crisis + Wealth Building Strategies
One of the hostages that Noah, the really famous one, she was being held for the last eight months in a photojournalist's house within the Gazan people, who is a photojournalist for Al Jazeera.
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Episode 411: Professor Scott Galloway: The Modern Connection Crisis + Wealth Building Strategies
They came out and pillaged after the Hamas massacre. You know that, right?
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Episode 411: Professor Scott Galloway: The Modern Connection Crisis + Wealth Building Strategies
I believe that actually because of this, Donald Trump is going to win, even as you know, even though he's convicted, he will. He'll win by a landslide because I think he's this just this has gave him the election personally for all these people. I mean, I've spoken to who absolutely hated him with the vengeance are actually now swung the other way.
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Episode 411: Professor Scott Galloway: The Modern Connection Crisis + Wealth Building Strategies
Massively. Is Carrie your partner? Is she Jewish or no?
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Episode 411: Professor Scott Galloway: The Modern Connection Crisis + Wealth Building Strategies
Right.
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Episode 411: Professor Scott Galloway: The Modern Connection Crisis + Wealth Building Strategies
Right. So then why would you even canvas for Biden? Is it because it's like the you don't have any other options right now? Like, what about RFK? What do you think of him?
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Episode 411: Professor Scott Galloway: The Modern Connection Crisis + Wealth Building Strategies
You mean right now? Probably none. But I mean, but then why do you think that the right and Donald Trump will win then if you think that people think that way? I think most people, if you would ask them who are pro-Israel, would think that Biden is kind of a joke.
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Episode 411: Professor Scott Galloway: The Modern Connection Crisis + Wealth Building Strategies
How about Kamala Harris? If something happens to Joe Biden, who may be on life support pretty soon, who knows, she takes over and she hasn't really been that supportive, let's say, of Israel. And she's married to a Jewish guy, by the way.
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Episode 411: Professor Scott Galloway: The Modern Connection Crisis + Wealth Building Strategies
Okay. And how old is Biden? They're not that far off in age.
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Episode 411: Professor Scott Galloway: The Modern Connection Crisis + Wealth Building Strategies
Does he ever? I'm uncomfortable watching him. I feel like someone should let him have a nap. It's uncomfortable, literally.
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Episode 411: Professor Scott Galloway: The Modern Connection Crisis + Wealth Building Strategies
I don't blame... I mean, listen, I don't blame you, but I've taken up so much of your time and I always enjoy talking to you. Thank you for... No, I really appreciate your time. You're always so thoughtful in your conversation and I always learn something. So... Let me tell everyone again, you guys, the book, The Algebra of Wealth, it really is a fantastic, it's a great book.
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Episode 411: Professor Scott Galloway: The Modern Connection Crisis + Wealth Building Strategies
You know what else I love about it? It's like a coffee table book. You can put it down, pick it right back up and always get something out of it. Like it's not something you have to read all in one. And it's a great book to always, I think, to go back to and like check out for some, you know, to kind of get a better, a reminder of something. And I really like it. So people pick it up.
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Episode 411: Professor Scott Galloway: The Modern Connection Crisis + Wealth Building Strategies
Where else can people see you and find you now besides your 97 podcasts? The Pivot, it's called one's Pivot, one's Prop G. What's the new one called?
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Episode 411: Professor Scott Galloway: The Modern Connection Crisis + Wealth Building Strategies
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Episode 411: Professor Scott Galloway: The Modern Connection Crisis + Wealth Building Strategies
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Episode 411: Professor Scott Galloway: The Modern Connection Crisis + Wealth Building Strategies
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Episode 411: Professor Scott Galloway: The Modern Connection Crisis + Wealth Building Strategies
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Episode 411: Professor Scott Galloway: The Modern Connection Crisis + Wealth Building Strategies
How much do you think is luck versus talent versus, yeah, versus talent? How much of it is luck?
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Episode 411: Professor Scott Galloway: The Modern Connection Crisis + Wealth Building Strategies
I mean, luck can get you. So I think luck is a big part, but you also talk a lot about a few things and it resonates with me anyway. Like you say, habits obviously really play a major integral role in how successful you become, right? Habits, exercise, number one, right? There's a definite correlation. I mean, how often are you exercising, by the way, every day?
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Episode 411: Professor Scott Galloway: The Modern Connection Crisis + Wealth Building Strategies
Yeah, I agree. I'm the same way with that, except I don't struggle with the anger portion. But the depression is the best antidepressant on the market and completely under indexed. So other things that you talk about in the book is have rich friends, make rich friends. Can we talk about that a little bit?
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Episode 411: Professor Scott Galloway: The Modern Connection Crisis + Wealth Building Strategies
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Episode 411: Professor Scott Galloway: The Modern Connection Crisis + Wealth Building Strategies
Welcome back to, I'm going to go right into it, Scott, because my audience is obsessed with you anyway. I always get a gazillion comments and messages whenever I post anything. Yeah, isn't it? We have a lot of entrepreneurs who follow and hyper-performance.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
So that's so fascinating, right? Like, it's so your path was is very, like, it's very unique, right? Because you were, or is it not like do most people who do what you do who are voice coaches and voice experts? Do are they usually were they usually singers prior?
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
Or how many people who become a voice pathologist go into voice coaching?
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
Right. And then you just help them. So how did you get like, I'm obsessed with Anthony Kiedis, but because I just think that he's so, he's an artist. He's an artist. Right? Yeah. How did you get into that lane of working with some of the biggest names in the world, like Shakira, Anthony Kiedis, whoever?
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
What I always, I'm curious about like even watching the Grammys, right? How do these people run around and sing at the same time? I know that's probably most of it slips, there's like a voice track behind, but for the artists who are really artists and they're going on tour for two hours, how are they able to like sing and then dance at the same time?
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
You do?
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
I remember Nicole Scherzinger was working out beside me many, many years ago, and she was running and singing at the same time to learn how to train herself.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
She runs.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
They run and sing at the same thing.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
How else do you control your voice? How else do you teach people to control their voice like that?
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
And like an Idina Mize, like who's like massive, right? So she's frozen. She's all these things. Can you tell me why you're going to, that's where you're going right now to do New York.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
How do you train a voice? How does it work? If I go to the gym and I go to train my legs, I'm going to do my squats and my lunges and do all those things. I know how to train your body. How do you train your voice? Just by practicing?
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
Okay, but if someone, because a lot of times people's voice are strained because they're, like you said, just herself, like she's doing eight shows on Broadway. Right. Or people are, like Anthony Kiedis, who's screaming and yelling for five hours while he's performing. Don't they just, if you're training them, don't they just need recovery and just to not sing and not talk?
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
But isn't he doing ah for five hours?
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
Not if you eat really badly, but okay.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
Okay, so how would you, for a regular person who's not an artist, pop star, or singer, just like a regular business person, mom, whoever, how can they optimize their voice in any way? Like, if I want to sound more serious and more authoritative... How do I train my voice to be that way? How do I train my voice? Like that video that you just said, right? Like what?
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
Her name is Amy Chapman. And this girl is, first of all, the best personality ever. But besides that, she is the, I don't even know what we call it, the biggest voice coach guru expert on the planet. And when I read off and riddle off her resume, you'll understand what I mean. Listen to this.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
Like I hired a speech therapist to fix my boring voice. Yeah. So how does someone fix their boring voice? So the sound better.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
Go ahead.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
I have a lot of people I hate listening to. I can name a hundred right now. You know, I like listening to people who have an English accent or an Australian accent.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
Right, me too. and who has a softness. I don't want a hardcore voice because I'm around it all the time. Totally. Right? What does it do to you? I don't know. I guess I never thought about it. Actually, let me change my answer. The voice I would like depends on what I'm listening to it for. So if I am looking for someone to help me with business, I'd want them to sound self-assured and confident.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
If I'm trying to chill out or relax and fall asleep, I would like a soft, soothing voice.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
Yes.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
She is a highly sought after vocal therapist, renowned singing voice specialist, and leading expert in voice optimization. With an unparalleled combination of clinical expertise and artistic experience, Amy has built a remarkable career transforming the voices of some of the world's most celebrated performers.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
Great answer. I'm going to clip that.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
I gave a lot to clip about. That was a great, that's a great. So when you want to sound more dominant or authoritative, you, your voice should go down.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
Right. You don't take them seriously.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
Yeah.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
Can you teach someone who normally talks? Like Ariana Grande, let's go back to her. Sure. If you hear her talk, she talks like a baby.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
And she has a squeaky voice. Yeah. But when she sings, she doesn't have that voice.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
I think it's done on purpose.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
It's what's your objective? Because that's a... I love that you said that because that is so true. If you want to convey like, I'm just a sweet, nice, like non-confrontational or like, you know, I don't... I'm not, I'm not a bitchy, you know, it kind of gives off this, this idea that you're just like sweet and nice and basic and dumb. Yeah.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
As a licensed and board-certified speech-language pathologist, she brings a deep scientific understanding of vocal health and physiology to her work. Listen to some of her clients, guys.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
Well, that's what I'm saying. I'm sure like even Ariana, and I think you're probably talking about Shakira, but I don't know. No, I'm not. I'm actually not. Okay. Because what I was going to say, because you said Latin, that's why I didn't. But what I was going to say is it's much more likable when people are not intimidated by you.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
So when you are talking with like authority with your voice down, people are sometimes off-put because they're more intimidated and more nervous to be around you. Especially as a woman, people will think that you're bitchy or rude or bossy. So when you act like that and it's much easier for everyone to play nicely because you're not a threat. Yeah.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
Amy's career spans a diverse range of industries, from television to touring music artist, where she's worked with some major stars like Shakira, Sia, Meghan Trainor, Idina Menzel, Anthony Kiedis, my personal favorite, And so many others. She's helped these global icons optimize their voice health, expand their range, enhance their performance, and prevent vocal strain. And I can go on and on.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
So, okay. So then when this guy hired you or a voice coach. Sure. For his voice to be less boring, what makes a voice boring versus a voice much more exciting?
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
So with this guy or for anybody whose voice is more monotone, more boring. Yeah. How do you train somebody to actually really envelop that and really do it? Like it's one thing to do it once after you or twice, but how can you really, if someone is the way they are and that's their voice most of the time, can you actually change someone's voice like forever?
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
Yeah, I wouldn't have a career if I couldn't do that.
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I know, right?
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Right, right, right.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
She's also like the lead voice coach for that show, the mask singer. I mean, there's so many things. It's unbelievable. And when I met you, how many things... I learned so much in that one conversation when I first met you that I had to have you on this show. So thanks for being here.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
It's not the words, right? It's how you say it. It's with everything in life though, right? It's like people don't get offended by what you're saying. It's how you say it. You can ask someone and trust me, I have in my life. I can ask someone anything, but if I say it in a way that's like, you know, non-confrontational, inquisitive versus judgy, I can get away with anything.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
She said, fuck you to me.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
It's all about the tone. Like I was going to ask you about TED talks, right? Because I wonder if there is something, I mean, yes, I know it's the algorithm. I got it. Totally. But what else makes it that would make somebody's TED Talk go viral versus go flat?
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
Is it, I thought, what I've kind of thought was the way the person sounds, not necessarily what, I think that the title of what it is, the way someone sounds and also how close the camera is to the person's face. That's what I've noticed. Yeah. Yeah. But how would you train someone to be the most engaging when they're talking?
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
Like how do you teach someone to be animated and alive when that's not, again, their natural personality? Is it just practice? You give them the tools and then they go off and just practice? That's the first part. The second part is what is the step-by-step way to really own a room, to really kind of take control and crush a presentation like that.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
You know what's amazing? I love that you don't feign compliments like that. Because so many times people sit here and they're like, oh, they try to feign humility, right? Like, oh... You're like, no, I am the shit. Like I've done all this stuff. I've like have a huge career. I've done it. I'm doing it. And you own it.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
And when you want to have more authority, you talk down. When you want to sound more, well, likable or flighty or kind of what's the word? Easy to like. Easy. It's easy. You kind of go up. You end with kind of like a comment, not with a question mark. Right.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
Yes, of a voice. Yeah. What other... Other ways and tips can you teach people how to tweak their voice to sound something? Give me an example.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
Yes.
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Yeah.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
That's so true. So what do moms, like when I wanted my kid to clean his room or listen to me, because God knows I repeat myself. I get so frustrated. I get so annoyed. I'm sure you do too. You got kids. Totally. So to be cognizant of not being, not just to be a yell, like just not to yell the same thing I yelled the day before, two minutes ago.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
So when you take it in, when you're more quiet or more close up, is it both? Yeah.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
You know, it's interesting right now, like just during this interview, I can see all the different ranges in your voice. Like you are a pro. You go quiet, you go loud, you go animated. You do like, it's like, it's amazing, right? How you really have made your voice like your instrument too and how to teach.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
Because when you're working with massive personalities, they need to A, trust you and listen to you and think that you know what you're talking about, right? So did you train yourself also to be that way? Yes. I became more cognizant of it.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
Yeah. What other kind of, besides like artists, like pop stars and big, you know, music people, performers, have you ever been hired by everyday other people to help them with a particular issue to help them optimize their voice?
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
I totally agree.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
I don't know why. It's also like a very like women do that, right? They always like, no, no. Like they want to be smaller than they really are. And if they're good. they have to apologize for being good. Oh, I don't apologize for being good.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
Right. So you basically, I like how you did that because you want, a lot of people are very robotic. They read a ton of these books.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
But you're not embodying what it is. It's words and it's very academic, right? It's very sterile.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
Well, I think the way like you make, especially in a leadership role, right? Tweaking it from being talking down to somebody like at, or sorry, at somebody versus as a mentor. That's a really good way of putting it. Like, so to sound more mentor-like and not such like such a robot or What would that be called that you're teaching them to do? What were those action items?
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
You're telling them to change their tone, their voice by sounding more mentor-like. What's that step? What is that step?
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
No, 100%.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
Yeah, it's a whole thing actually in business. A lot of people, especially now, you need to kind of like foreplay it for like five minutes. Thousand percent. You know, how was your weekend? What did you do? And you're like, I just have to get to the point here. Totally. So, but you can't circumvent that. You can't get away with that, but not, you still, so that's not really a tone.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
It is a tone, but it's an additional five minutes that you have to add to the conversation.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
I guess that's it, right? I guess what I'm not confused is the wrong word, but can you teach somebody how to be warm when they're not naturally like that? Won't it come across fake?
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
From the science of voice to simple techniques to sound more powerful, more likable or persuasive, you'll learn how you speak matters just as much as what you say. Stick around and let me know what you think after the episode. Thank you so much for having me. on NSF certification, which means every single batch is tested for heavy metals, harmful additives, and label accuracy.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
Can you email Bob, please? Right. But this is what I'm saying. What portion, this is most of it's also like teaching someone EQ, like picking up on nuance. So much so. Understanding what make people, how I talk to, like we said earlier, my tone of voice with you will be very different than my tone of voice with Karen.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
I don't know. You know, you said something, I always wonder this and I ask this a lot like to myself, right? Like what is the true difference between self-esteem and confidence, right? Do you know what the difference is? Yes.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
Because I know Karen is more sensitive and needs this and I have to handle her differently. Right. You, you, it could be straight down and dirty and you appreciate it more. Love it. Right? Love it.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
Yeah. You need to know your audience.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
Have you ever done like a real talk where you teach people how to talk? Yeah. Totally. Have you ever done a talk?
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
Just so people don't know. So Danny Garcia is The Rock's ex-wife, but business partner. And she runs Seven Bucks Productions. Right. Yeah.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
She's a bodybuilder too.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
Yeah.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
You know, I think that you're right. There is such a bad connotation. Like, we're all putting it on. We all, like, you know, Chris Rock says, like, we go out, our sales reps, our representatives are the ones who are out there all, you know, when you want to have a date, when you want to, like, impress a girl, a boy, get a job. You're a sales rep. is doing the job. That's part of life.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
If you want to achieve and do things and work nicely with other people, there's going to be an element of an elevated you.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
No, it's like, you know, I go somewhere, I'm like, okay, fuck, I got to go in there. I got to pull myself together. Like if you're in a bad mood, okay, and I'm going to a meeting or whatever, I got to just pull myself together and like put it on for 20 minutes.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
Yeah.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
It's true. There's like a bunch of people who say like if you just smile, you can smile your way to being happy even when you're not happy.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
I like what you said also with the capable. Let's go back to that because you already told us a little bit about how to sound like we are in control, that we're knowledgeable earlier. But when you went into Dani's office with the women to kind of help them kind of give off that they are capable, smart women, what did you do? You were sitting there for an hour, let's say. How long was your meeting?
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
Right.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
It is, right? Because every personality is so different, right? So how you work with one person is going to be different. So pull out a couple of examples of some people that were certain ways that you helped them tweak that maybe people who are listening can relate to.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
You know, I don't even know, how does someone even, I know we haven't even gotten into the voice stuff yet, but like, this is one of these topics that I talk about a lot because it's like, how do you truly teach somebody to have a sense of self-worth or self-esteem? Because you're right, confidence, you could be, you can feel confident. It's also like, it's fluid.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
1.27.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
Oh, yes.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
I know. Well, just... No, no, no.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
Or no, you said pauses are great. Pauses are so great. Yeah, I know. I'm getting like schwitzy with the light. I know. And she's also been on for an hour. See, she's been fake for about an hour. So it's like a long time.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
Listen, if you don't have an example, that's fine. You gave us a lot.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
I like to write down the three things that you're really good at. That's a great part of it. Punch the word that you want people to remember. Good. I think there's a lot of good action items. Yeah, to pull in things that you want. Is there another one? Yeah, I'm sure there is. Do you want some magic mind here? Why don't you like shake this up? By the way, we didn't even do this.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
We normally do this in the beginning of the podcast. So these help you with your focus and they're a healthy shot. They have ashwagandha and all these amazing things.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
You should have. You would have been really on. I would have really, God, I would have broken your mic. You would have been basically through the roof, but maybe this will help you get that example. You don't drink, I can imagine not. I can imagine you don't drink. This is good. You got to do it in one shot. Oh, L'chaim. L'chaim. By the way, I've had like four of these already.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
I shouldn't even have any more. Is it good? Yeah. Yeah, that's really good. People love it. I think all my guests love it. Can you think of one more sample now?
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
Okay. So I think someone who feels – this is actually a question I do have and then this could be our – Yeah. Like I work really well from a problem. Okay. Like I think a lot of people can actually be like – I'll use myself. Okay. You know, I think I'm an outgoing person sometimes. I'm an outgoing person. I'm extroverted. And I'm not shy. Like, I'll ask anybody anything all the time.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
But put me on a stage, I get really scared. Like... I guess I can perform on stage, but it's like, I'm like, I am not somebody who naturally feels super comfortable talking to like a huge group of people. I find like, so people like, and there are people out there who are the opposite, right? Usually opposite. Like they're usually very shy, but they go on stage and they shine, right? Yeah.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
You could be confident one day because you feel confident you can do one particular thing and then something happens or you don't feel confident the next day. But true self-worth, that is hard to teach somebody. Either you kind of have it or you kind of don't, in my opinion. But do you think there's ways we can help or teach that to people?
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
Is there anything that, and it's not because of a confidence, not because, I can write down the three things that I'm confident about and I can know all these things that you said, right? Like animation, changing the intonation of my voice, all those things and still go up there. Is there anything else that I can take along with me for my voice to really kind of
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
kind of show my authoritative ship, my confidence, my be funny. I mean, to make myself a really good performer. I'm just trying to give you something. Yeah, of course. Because it has nothing to do with lack of self-esteem or lack of confidence. It's just like, it's like a jittery thing.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
And even if I have all those tools, I can still go up there and get nervous and scared and then not do all the things that I was told to do or practice to do.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
And the square breathing.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
That's exactly it. Taking your time. That is what it is. You get so, we got to go. We got to go fast. Like, no. Hi, everybody. That's where the breathing comes in.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
I like that. Thank you, Amy. Thank you. Now you can go to New York. That's my point. Exactly. I appreciate this. This was very, very fun and informative. And like I said, I've never done a podcast on voice before. So this is really interesting. And I hope somebody, or more than just one person, but take something, they can integrate it into their lives.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
Because I think you gave us a lot of great little action items.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
Well, guess what? The good news is you can always come back.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
I mean, with that hair. I mean, by the way, you wanted to say something about your hair, about imaging.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
Right.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
Yeah.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
I live in gym clothes. I'm like the worst person to say that to. But if you feel confident in that and you like it. I do. Because you know why I feel confident in that? Because like I'm usually wearing my gym clothes because I came from the gym. And you got a banging bod and you're happy to show that off too.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
And also I rather, I think to myself, at least I did something that was for myself that like bettered myself, that made my brain more more focused. And when you sweat, I feel better. I'd rather look like shit because I really feel better knowing that I look like shit because I did something for myself beforehand.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
Yeah.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
It is. It is. Meditating mascara. Running is my meditation. Mascara is yours. Everybody's got their own. Everybody has their own. God, thank you, Amy, for being on here. Thank you. Guys, check out Amy. What's your Instagram?
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
She's too busy for you. But anyway. We'll talk somewhere. Exactly. Thank you. This was great. Thank you. Bye. Bye. Bye.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
Oh God, neither would I. A hundred percent. It's so awkward. It's so awkward.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
So the way I agree, but I think the way I would always define it is if you want to have true self-worth, do things for yourself that make you really feel truly good about yourself. For me, it was like exercise and working out. When I took that seriously, it taught me such foundational skills about life. Like fitness for me was like a microcosm for real life, like the patience, the discipline.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
And when you start like honing in on these like foundational skills and you know, you can actually get through hard things. It gives you self-esteem. That's to me what I felt like, I'm like, I worked out, I work out all the time. So I know I have an okay body. So why am I going to like pretend that I don't think so? Like, You know what I mean? Yeah. You're like, no, I work at it. Yeah.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
I earned this. I earned this. Yeah. So I think when someone feels like they work for something and they take action to get something, that helps them with their self-esteem as well.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
Yeah, because when you were younger, were you a singer?
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
So you were like an artist who was just – I wouldn't call myself an artist.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
That's a great example of art. Let's stick to the Ariana. Because I was listening to her on a podcast. And I thought to myself kind of, she said that she writes her own music. I didn't know that she did, by the way. I thought she just had a beautiful voice and that people write her music. I don't know one way or the other. Maybe you know.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
But I think it becomes a mix of both when you're a huge star, right? But I always thought that she had a beautiful voice that made her a great singer. But you're right. I never looked at her as an artist. She didn't come across. Is there a difference between an artist, a singer, and a star? Or is a star and an artist the same thing?
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
Yeah. That's 100% true.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
And a great singer. So why? Why would she not be an artist?
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
By the way, which makes you even more likable.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
Okay, so this is very interesting because Taylor Swift, right, she writes her own music. Maybe now she does. I think she has a million people who collaborate with her, right, herself. But that was like her whole thing. She was a singer-songwriter, right? I thought if someone's a songwriter and they're a performer, that kind of makes them more of an artist. Yeah, and they are an artist.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
But I see what you're saying because the truth is when I think of like an artist, I think of someone who's more, there's more darkness there.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
Yes.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
And like nobody could – Can copy it, really, because there's only going to be one Sia.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
You are, put your stamp on it, and it's you. And you've worked with her before. And so, like, how does an artist, like, how do you work with an artist versus just a singer? Is there a difference? Yes.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
You're an artist.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
Yeah.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
Do you ever wonder why some voices captivate while others go unnoticed? On this episode of Habits & Hustle, I'm joined by top vocal therapist Amy Chapman, who's worked with stars like Shakira, Sia, and Anthony Kiedis, just to name a few. We uncover how mastering your voice can boost your confidence, enhance communication, and unlock success, both personally and professionally.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
Right. I understand that. I know we're going to get back to it, but I'm curious. We just talked about Sia. So like working with an artist like her, how do you work with her versus a singer or a star? Cool.
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
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Episode 445: Amy Chapman: How Voice Control Techniques Can Transform Your Life and Career
So you were a singer. Tell me, so let's get back to you for a minute now. Because you were a singer, not an artist. So how did you, what was your evolution? Because given your personality, you seem to have the package. Like I heard you sing with my mom earlier. You were singing like opera.
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I was going to say, I wish you watched it.
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Episode 419: Vanessa Van Edwards: The Power of Body Language and Charisma for Effective Communication
You know what I mean? Yes.
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Episode 419: Vanessa Van Edwards: The Power of Body Language and Charisma for Effective Communication
So let's do the difference, right?
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Episode 419: Vanessa Van Edwards: The Power of Body Language and Charisma for Effective Communication
Shrugging.
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Episode 419: Vanessa Van Edwards: The Power of Body Language and Charisma for Effective Communication
Give me another one.
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Episode 419: Vanessa Van Edwards: The Power of Body Language and Charisma for Effective Communication
So, okay, so we'll talk about it.
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Episode 419: Vanessa Van Edwards: The Power of Body Language and Charisma for Effective Communication
Yes.
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Episode 419: Vanessa Van Edwards: The Power of Body Language and Charisma for Effective Communication
Right.
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Episode 419: Vanessa Van Edwards: The Power of Body Language and Charisma for Effective Communication
Yeah, me too.
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Episode 419: Vanessa Van Edwards: The Power of Body Language and Charisma for Effective Communication
Oh,
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Episode 419: Vanessa Van Edwards: The Power of Body Language and Charisma for Effective Communication
It was purely teenagers.
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Episode 419: Vanessa Van Edwards: The Power of Body Language and Charisma for Effective Communication
Go ahead.
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Episode 419: Vanessa Van Edwards: The Power of Body Language and Charisma for Effective Communication
It's so fun.
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Episode 419: Vanessa Van Edwards: The Power of Body Language and Charisma for Effective Communication
Thank you so much. Thank you. Bye, everyone. Bye.
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Episode 419: Vanessa Van Edwards: The Power of Body Language and Charisma for Effective Communication
Yes.
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Episode 453: Dave Asprey: Biohacking Secrets - Testosterone, Peptides, and Daily Routines for Optimal Human Performance
Really? Really?
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Episode 453: Dave Asprey: Biohacking Secrets - Testosterone, Peptides, and Daily Routines for Optimal Human Performance
Are you serious?
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Episode 453: Dave Asprey: Biohacking Secrets - Testosterone, Peptides, and Daily Routines for Optimal Human Performance
I understand what you mean. I see the full circle there. Okay. So, but like that 40 years of Zen though, that sounds like a really good program for a lot of people.
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Episode 453: Dave Asprey: Biohacking Secrets - Testosterone, Peptides, and Daily Routines for Optimal Human Performance
This code will work site-wide. Again, head over to therasage, T-H-E-R-A-S-A-G-E.com and use code BEBOLD for 15% off any of their products. Do you feel that they're still as effective as people thought? Like, do you feel, is there anything else on the market that's coming out that's even more potent that people are not aware of or?
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Episode 453: Dave Asprey: Biohacking Secrets - Testosterone, Peptides, and Daily Routines for Optimal Human Performance
That sounds amazing.
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Episode 453: Dave Asprey: Biohacking Secrets - Testosterone, Peptides, and Daily Routines for Optimal Human Performance
Wait, I just was invited to a biohacking conference in April in Austin.
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Episode 453: Dave Asprey: Biohacking Secrets - Testosterone, Peptides, and Daily Routines for Optimal Human Performance
Yes, not yours.
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Episode 453: Dave Asprey: Biohacking Secrets - Testosterone, Peptides, and Daily Routines for Optimal Human Performance
This is a guy from England. Yeah. We'll see what happens there. Do you know which one I'm talking about?
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Episode 453: Dave Asprey: Biohacking Secrets - Testosterone, Peptides, and Daily Routines for Optimal Human Performance
Yeah.
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Episode 453: Dave Asprey: Biohacking Secrets - Testosterone, Peptides, and Daily Routines for Optimal Human Performance
What do you mean?
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Episode 453: Dave Asprey: Biohacking Secrets - Testosterone, Peptides, and Daily Routines for Optimal Human Performance
Because he was doing it in England. Oh, yeah.
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Episode 453: Dave Asprey: Biohacking Secrets - Testosterone, Peptides, and Daily Routines for Optimal Human Performance
So you mean it's not your conference, but you owned a piece of that conference?
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Episode 453: Dave Asprey: Biohacking Secrets - Testosterone, Peptides, and Daily Routines for Optimal Human Performance
Wow. Oh, my gosh.
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Episode 453: Dave Asprey: Biohacking Secrets - Testosterone, Peptides, and Daily Routines for Optimal Human Performance
When is that one?
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Episode 453: Dave Asprey: Biohacking Secrets - Testosterone, Peptides, and Daily Routines for Optimal Human Performance
Oh, yeah.
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Episode 453: Dave Asprey: Biohacking Secrets - Testosterone, Peptides, and Daily Routines for Optimal Human Performance
That's a great one.
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Episode 453: Dave Asprey: Biohacking Secrets - Testosterone, Peptides, and Daily Routines for Optimal Human Performance
Because there's so many biohacking conferences. There's so many. Yeah. And so, but yours, when is your, because I know you have a big one in LA all the time, but that's.
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Episode 453: Dave Asprey: Biohacking Secrets - Testosterone, Peptides, and Daily Routines for Optimal Human Performance
Oh, so it's not here anymore. So now that's the one that's in, like you're saying in Austin.
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Episode 453: Dave Asprey: Biohacking Secrets - Testosterone, Peptides, and Daily Routines for Optimal Human Performance
I'm telling you, the amount of stuff that, okay, so how, I didn't even, we didn't even get over your day in the life, your habits and hustle. Okay, what time do you wake up? Give me your whole situation.
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Episode 453: Dave Asprey: Biohacking Secrets - Testosterone, Peptides, and Daily Routines for Optimal Human Performance
Okay, not crazy.
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Episode 453: Dave Asprey: Biohacking Secrets - Testosterone, Peptides, and Daily Routines for Optimal Human Performance
Okay.
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Episode 453: Dave Asprey: Biohacking Secrets - Testosterone, Peptides, and Daily Routines for Optimal Human Performance
Why?
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Episode 453: Dave Asprey: Biohacking Secrets - Testosterone, Peptides, and Daily Routines for Optimal Human Performance
That is so interesting.
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Episode 453: Dave Asprey: Biohacking Secrets - Testosterone, Peptides, and Daily Routines for Optimal Human Performance
Where did it come from?
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Episode 453: Dave Asprey: Biohacking Secrets - Testosterone, Peptides, and Daily Routines for Optimal Human Performance
That's amazing. Do you wear a mouth tape? Do you wear a weighted eye mask?
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Episode 453: Dave Asprey: Biohacking Secrets - Testosterone, Peptides, and Daily Routines for Optimal Human Performance
Really? Yeah. It screws up your nervous system if you don't wear a mouth guard?
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Episode 453: Dave Asprey: Biohacking Secrets - Testosterone, Peptides, and Daily Routines for Optimal Human Performance
So you wear like a mouth guard?
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Episode 453: Dave Asprey: Biohacking Secrets - Testosterone, Peptides, and Daily Routines for Optimal Human Performance
Oh, so you don't wear the one that goes this, like you wear it this way?
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Episode 453: Dave Asprey: Biohacking Secrets - Testosterone, Peptides, and Daily Routines for Optimal Human Performance
Oh yeah, I remember this. How many companies do you have? Let's just start with that now.
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Episode 453: Dave Asprey: Biohacking Secrets - Testosterone, Peptides, and Daily Routines for Optimal Human Performance
Let me share my daily routine game changer with you. It's the Momentous 3. I've been using their protein, their creatine, and omega-3 combo for months now, and the results are undeniable. These nutrients are key for long-term health and performance, but hard to get enough of through diet alone. The CreaPure Creatine boosts both physical and your mental performance.
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Episode 453: Dave Asprey: Biohacking Secrets - Testosterone, Peptides, and Daily Routines for Optimal Human Performance
The grass-fed whey tastes great with no weird aftertaste, and the Omega-3 is a must for recovery. Since adding these, my energy, my recovery, and my overall well-being has really improved. So if you want better performance, this is the way to go. Visit livemomentous.com and use my code Jen for 35% off your first subscription. That's livemomentous.com code Jen for 35% off your first subscription.
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Episode 453: Dave Asprey: Biohacking Secrets - Testosterone, Peptides, and Daily Routines for Optimal Human Performance
Trust me, you'll be happy you did. Give me a few more nights. I want to know like all the habits.
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Episode 453: Dave Asprey: Biohacking Secrets - Testosterone, Peptides, and Daily Routines for Optimal Human Performance
You have nine companies now. So you have a red light company, you have a light company.
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Episode 453: Dave Asprey: Biohacking Secrets - Testosterone, Peptides, and Daily Routines for Optimal Human Performance
What supplements are you taking at night?
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Episode 453: Dave Asprey: Biohacking Secrets - Testosterone, Peptides, and Daily Routines for Optimal Human Performance
At night?
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Episode 453: Dave Asprey: Biohacking Secrets - Testosterone, Peptides, and Daily Routines for Optimal Human Performance
Besides magnesium? Yeah.
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Episode 453: Dave Asprey: Biohacking Secrets - Testosterone, Peptides, and Daily Routines for Optimal Human Performance
Do you take NAD, like truniogen?
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Episode 453: Dave Asprey: Biohacking Secrets - Testosterone, Peptides, and Daily Routines for Optimal Human Performance
Why do you have to block that?
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Episode 453: Dave Asprey: Biohacking Secrets - Testosterone, Peptides, and Daily Routines for Optimal Human Performance
So the thing is- On NAD or just what's the podcast called?
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Episode 453: Dave Asprey: Biohacking Secrets - Testosterone, Peptides, and Daily Routines for Optimal Human Performance
How do you remember all of this stuff? That's the thing.
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Episode 453: Dave Asprey: Biohacking Secrets - Testosterone, Peptides, and Daily Routines for Optimal Human Performance
Just everyone look for the, I'll just say, check out the NAD episode. Okay, that's good enough for now.
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Episode 453: Dave Asprey: Biohacking Secrets - Testosterone, Peptides, and Daily Routines for Optimal Human Performance
How, how did you train?
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Episode 453: Dave Asprey: Biohacking Secrets - Testosterone, Peptides, and Daily Routines for Optimal Human Performance
I know. I mean, like you don't have to tell me, but I mean, can you say it in like three sentences?
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Episode 453: Dave Asprey: Biohacking Secrets - Testosterone, Peptides, and Daily Routines for Optimal Human Performance
You turned your eye back on? Yeah. I could sit with you for three weeks and have more questions. I'm so sorry.
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Episode 453: Dave Asprey: Biohacking Secrets - Testosterone, Peptides, and Daily Routines for Optimal Human Performance
So how many are actually up, like open?
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Episode 453: Dave Asprey: Biohacking Secrets - Testosterone, Peptides, and Daily Routines for Optimal Human Performance
Can you now see faces perfectly?
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Episode 453: Dave Asprey: Biohacking Secrets - Testosterone, Peptides, and Daily Routines for Optimal Human Performance
Did you recognize me?
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Episode 453: Dave Asprey: Biohacking Secrets - Testosterone, Peptides, and Daily Routines for Optimal Human Performance
Okay. Giga one, upgrade, upgrade, true light.
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Episode 453: Dave Asprey: Biohacking Secrets - Testosterone, Peptides, and Daily Routines for Optimal Human Performance
It's hard, but I'll tell you something, it's interesting because I went at that biohack thing that we were at. We were both doing the red carpet literally right beside each other. You were here, I was here. I had someone talking to me, you had someone talking to you. We were right here and I looked at you you looked at me and you didn't say a word and I didn't say a word. So I was like, fuck that.
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Episode 453: Dave Asprey: Biohacking Secrets - Testosterone, Peptides, and Daily Routines for Optimal Human Performance
And I just walked away. Not because I thought you were rude. Cause I thought to myself, it's also so many things happening. I'm like, I didn't, I recognized you because you're right. I see you all the time. Like you come up on my feed. I've interviewed you for like 20 minutes before somewhere at that, at your biohacking. Like, you're much more familiar.
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Episode 453: Dave Asprey: Biohacking Secrets - Testosterone, Peptides, and Daily Routines for Optimal Human Performance
I know for you to me, you know, like maybe like someone said my name a couple of times or whatever.
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Episode 453: Dave Asprey: Biohacking Secrets - Testosterone, Peptides, and Daily Routines for Optimal Human Performance
But it wasn't, the context wasn't there.
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Episode 453: Dave Asprey: Biohacking Secrets - Testosterone, Peptides, and Daily Routines for Optimal Human Performance
So people are wearing. You look exactly the same, but I know that like out of context, you don't know somebody. It's really hard. Yeah. But I think I wanna ask you something, because I think if anybody, you might have a good answer. My mom was sadly diagnosed with Alzheimer's maybe a month ago. It's really horrible.
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Episode 453: Dave Asprey: Biohacking Secrets - Testosterone, Peptides, and Daily Routines for Optimal Human Performance
And so someone like you, because you do all these things and talk to everybody and you retain everything, Have you heard of anything that helps people with Alzheimer's, not necessarily reverse it, but help maintain or let it not progress as quickly?
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Episode 453: Dave Asprey: Biohacking Secrets - Testosterone, Peptides, and Daily Routines for Optimal Human Performance
Really?
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Episode 453: Dave Asprey: Biohacking Secrets - Testosterone, Peptides, and Daily Routines for Optimal Human Performance
I didn't even know you had that book. When was that book written?
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Episode 453: Dave Asprey: Biohacking Secrets - Testosterone, Peptides, and Daily Routines for Optimal Human Performance
Are you guys really doing that well right now?
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Episode 453: Dave Asprey: Biohacking Secrets - Testosterone, Peptides, and Daily Routines for Optimal Human Performance
You were?
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Episode 453: Dave Asprey: Biohacking Secrets - Testosterone, Peptides, and Daily Routines for Optimal Human Performance
No, but your trajectory?
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Episode 453: Dave Asprey: Biohacking Secrets - Testosterone, Peptides, and Daily Routines for Optimal Human Performance
MCT oil? Yeah.
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Episode 453: Dave Asprey: Biohacking Secrets - Testosterone, Peptides, and Daily Routines for Optimal Human Performance
Yeah.
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Episode 453: Dave Asprey: Biohacking Secrets - Testosterone, Peptides, and Daily Routines for Optimal Human Performance
You're a great, you're the best salesperson I've ever met in my life. Wow.
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Episode 453: Dave Asprey: Biohacking Secrets - Testosterone, Peptides, and Daily Routines for Optimal Human Performance
You are. You know why? You're a great orator. You know, you can take information and you can really like explain it in such a way that people get so hooked in. Like even when, cause you, you, you speak with such, not just like passion about it, but like detail, like you're so detail oriented that, You don't just glaze over it.
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Episode 453: Dave Asprey: Biohacking Secrets - Testosterone, Peptides, and Daily Routines for Optimal Human Performance
Right. And so the nicotine, can she take what you just did?
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Episode 453: Dave Asprey: Biohacking Secrets - Testosterone, Peptides, and Daily Routines for Optimal Human Performance
What type of patch would you recommend though? Is there a particular one?
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Episode 453: Dave Asprey: Biohacking Secrets - Testosterone, Peptides, and Daily Routines for Optimal Human Performance
No, Nicorette's the, I think it's the patch.
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Episode 453: Dave Asprey: Biohacking Secrets - Testosterone, Peptides, and Daily Routines for Optimal Human Performance
that you stick on just go to the drugstore and say patches don't buy the generic ones they suck buy the name brand ones the name brand ones yeah okay finish your I can I know we're like I know how long it's been but I didn't even talk to you about Maha RFK FDA love all that stuff like that's like what I that literally was what I was going to start this podcast with and we haven't even gotten there so that sucks because I really wanted to talk to you about all that stuff wow I've if we can just do a really brief thing there
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Episode 453: Dave Asprey: Biohacking Secrets - Testosterone, Peptides, and Daily Routines for Optimal Human Performance
Yeah, they should.
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Episode 453: Dave Asprey: Biohacking Secrets - Testosterone, Peptides, and Daily Routines for Optimal Human Performance
So people really, you're explaining things where people are like, I want to try it.
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Episode 453: Dave Asprey: Biohacking Secrets - Testosterone, Peptides, and Daily Routines for Optimal Human Performance
An environmental one.
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Episode 453: Dave Asprey: Biohacking Secrets - Testosterone, Peptides, and Daily Routines for Optimal Human Performance
Did you go to the Maha Gala? Yeah.
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Episode 453: Dave Asprey: Biohacking Secrets - Testosterone, Peptides, and Daily Routines for Optimal Human Performance
Let's quickly talk about a health issue that affects almost all of us. Fiber deficiency. Did you know that 95% of people don't get enough fiber in their daily diet? I was shocked when I learned this, because fiber is truly the foundation of overall wellness. It's not just about keeping our digestion smooth and regular, although of course that's super important.
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Episode 453: Dave Asprey: Biohacking Secrets - Testosterone, Peptides, and Daily Routines for Optimal Human Performance
But fiber also nourishes the good bacteria in our gut. It supports a balanced microbiome, helps us feel fuller for longer, which makes managing our weight even easier. And it even improves our energy by optimizing nutrient absorption and stabilizing our blood sugar. That's why I am really excited to share BioMe's Daily Prebiotic Fiber with you.
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Episode 453: Dave Asprey: Biohacking Secrets - Testosterone, Peptides, and Daily Routines for Optimal Human Performance
This product makes meeting your daily fiber needs simple, enjoyable, and super effective. With 8 grams of fiber per serving plus gut-friendly prebiotics, it's designed to close that fiber gap in your diet and support your digestion and gut health every single day. and it fits effortlessly into your routine.
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Episode 453: Dave Asprey: Biohacking Secrets - Testosterone, Peptides, and Daily Routines for Optimal Human Performance
Just mix it in the morning smoothie or tea or coffee or afternoon snack, and you're good to go. I love that it's so easy to prepare and you can incorporate with literally every busy lifestyle. So if you want to make getting fiber easy, visit Biome, that's B-I-O-M-E.com and enter code JENNIFER20 for 20% off your first order of daily prebiotic fiber. That's biome.com, code JENNIFER20 for 20% off.
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Episode 453: Dave Asprey: Biohacking Secrets - Testosterone, Peptides, and Daily Routines for Optimal Human Performance
He also breaks down the surprising protocols he follows, including taking over 150 supplements a day. Whether you're deep into biohacking or just curious, this episode offers a rare look into the extreme practices of someone who spent $2 million optimizing his body to live to 180. Before we dive into today's episode, I first want to thank our sponsor, Therasage.
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Episode 453: Dave Asprey: Biohacking Secrets - Testosterone, Peptides, and Daily Routines for Optimal Human Performance
Grab it today. Are you going to be involved in any of the government stuff, like to help with, I don't know, like they're giving people roles all over the place.
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Episode 453: Dave Asprey: Biohacking Secrets - Testosterone, Peptides, and Daily Routines for Optimal Human Performance
Really? Did you, by the way, vaccinate your children even, like all those years back?
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Episode 453: Dave Asprey: Biohacking Secrets - Testosterone, Peptides, and Daily Routines for Optimal Human Performance
It does? Why? You seem to talk about all sorts of vaccinations.
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Episode 453: Dave Asprey: Biohacking Secrets - Testosterone, Peptides, and Daily Routines for Optimal Human Performance
Okay, so are you a believer of vaccines now?
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Episode 453: Dave Asprey: Biohacking Secrets - Testosterone, Peptides, and Daily Routines for Optimal Human Performance
Your ex-wife was a doctor?
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Episode 453: Dave Asprey: Biohacking Secrets - Testosterone, Peptides, and Daily Routines for Optimal Human Performance
Oh, wow, okay.
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Episode 453: Dave Asprey: Biohacking Secrets - Testosterone, Peptides, and Daily Routines for Optimal Human Performance
Well, they're trying to give it to you before the age of 15 HPV, the guard cell.
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Episode 453: Dave Asprey: Biohacking Secrets - Testosterone, Peptides, and Daily Routines for Optimal Human Performance
See, I was at the doctor yesterday with my 12-year-old, and the doctor offered it to my 12-year-old, and I said, no, thank you right now. But if you want it to be effective, you have to do it before the age of 15. That's what they said. Yeah.
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Episode 453: Dave Asprey: Biohacking Secrets - Testosterone, Peptides, and Daily Routines for Optimal Human Performance
No, I agree with that.
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Episode 453: Dave Asprey: Biohacking Secrets - Testosterone, Peptides, and Daily Routines for Optimal Human Performance
Measles, yeah.
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Episode 453: Dave Asprey: Biohacking Secrets - Testosterone, Peptides, and Daily Routines for Optimal Human Performance
Right. And people are also, you know, they're scared. And they get fear-mongering, right? People get scared until they do something to be preventative.
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Episode 453: Dave Asprey: Biohacking Secrets - Testosterone, Peptides, and Daily Routines for Optimal Human Performance
Because it's interesting, because if I can be honest with you for a second, I think a lot of people, because you talk about a lot of products all the time on social media, people feel like you kind of like sell out a little bit, right? Because like you're talking about this random thing and that random thing. And it's like, well, if he's getting paid, he'll talk about it.
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Episode 453: Dave Asprey: Biohacking Secrets - Testosterone, Peptides, and Daily Routines for Optimal Human Performance
Right. Well, the first step is, of course, they eliminated the red dye. What's next?
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Episode 453: Dave Asprey: Biohacking Secrets - Testosterone, Peptides, and Daily Routines for Optimal Human Performance
Wow, I love that answer. And then just wrap it up with your, very quickly, your daily routine. We got the night routine, kind of. Just go really quickly in one minute or less. What do you do every day? You wake up at what time? You said six and a half hours, you sleep?
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Episode 453: Dave Asprey: Biohacking Secrets - Testosterone, Peptides, and Daily Routines for Optimal Human Performance
But you like the infrared because now there's all this data saying that it's not hot enough, that you need to have like a finish, you know, like an old school.
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Episode 453: Dave Asprey: Biohacking Secrets - Testosterone, Peptides, and Daily Routines for Optimal Human Performance
Wow, okay. I'll do that in the morning. Okay, so you just put regular Himalayan salt in there.
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Episode 453: Dave Asprey: Biohacking Secrets - Testosterone, Peptides, and Daily Routines for Optimal Human Performance
I'm a big creatine person as well.
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Episode 453: Dave Asprey: Biohacking Secrets - Testosterone, Peptides, and Daily Routines for Optimal Human Performance
Most studied supplement.
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Episode 453: Dave Asprey: Biohacking Secrets - Testosterone, Peptides, and Daily Routines for Optimal Human Performance
Really? Yeah.
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Episode 453: Dave Asprey: Biohacking Secrets - Testosterone, Peptides, and Daily Routines for Optimal Human Performance
Well, 10 grams, that's a lot. I take 2.5.
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Episode 453: Dave Asprey: Biohacking Secrets - Testosterone, Peptides, and Daily Routines for Optimal Human Performance
Well, I'm scared of the bloating.
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Episode 453: Dave Asprey: Biohacking Secrets - Testosterone, Peptides, and Daily Routines for Optimal Human Performance
I know, I know. I mean, that's true, right? I mean, that's 100% true. Exactly. Okay, so then you do all these little, you change around all your little things.
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Episode 453: Dave Asprey: Biohacking Secrets - Testosterone, Peptides, and Daily Routines for Optimal Human Performance
What are the supplements that you swear by besides what you said at night?
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Episode 453: Dave Asprey: Biohacking Secrets - Testosterone, Peptides, and Daily Routines for Optimal Human Performance
A day? Yeah. Okay. Okay, so you take the creatine, you told me that, magnesium, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
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Episode 453: Dave Asprey: Biohacking Secrets - Testosterone, Peptides, and Daily Routines for Optimal Human Performance
Really?
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Episode 453: Dave Asprey: Biohacking Secrets - Testosterone, Peptides, and Daily Routines for Optimal Human Performance
I should write her name down.
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Episode 453: Dave Asprey: Biohacking Secrets - Testosterone, Peptides, and Daily Routines for Optimal Human Performance
Oh, fatty 15. Yeah, I know who they are.
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Episode 453: Dave Asprey: Biohacking Secrets - Testosterone, Peptides, and Daily Routines for Optimal Human Performance
Yeah, I know them.
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Episode 453: Dave Asprey: Biohacking Secrets - Testosterone, Peptides, and Daily Routines for Optimal Human Performance
Okay.
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Episode 453: Dave Asprey: Biohacking Secrets - Testosterone, Peptides, and Daily Routines for Optimal Human Performance
By the way, I did read that book. It's over there. I read that book like 100 years ago. I don't remember it, though. I don't retain information like you do, apparently. I'm doing something wrong. That was a good book. I think that was the book I really liked, Superhuman.
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Episode 453: Dave Asprey: Biohacking Secrets - Testosterone, Peptides, and Daily Routines for Optimal Human Performance
Okay, why? How do we do that though?
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Episode 453: Dave Asprey: Biohacking Secrets - Testosterone, Peptides, and Daily Routines for Optimal Human Performance
Wow. Okay. I have a million more questions. We've got to wind it up because I've got to get to my next podcast. I understand. Trust me. Okay. Dave Asprey, you're like a plethora of knowledge. There was like 77 more things I can talk about. I'm going to break this up into two parts because I don't even know how long. How long was this podcast?
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Episode 453: Dave Asprey: Biohacking Secrets - Testosterone, Peptides, and Daily Routines for Optimal Human Performance
I don't think it was that. I really could have done another two hours with you.
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Episode 453: Dave Asprey: Biohacking Secrets - Testosterone, Peptides, and Daily Routines for Optimal Human Performance
I love it. And I think that you were just, like I said, you gave, what I love, I love guests like you who give people actionable things that they can actually do in their life. I mean, some of this stuff is like things, I didn't even ask you today about some of the other kooky stuff that like we took, like the plasma and all those things.
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Episode 453: Dave Asprey: Biohacking Secrets - Testosterone, Peptides, and Daily Routines for Optimal Human Performance
I know you've done everything, but you've got, you've kind of like gave people so much information and knowledge. things that they can easily integrate that doesn't take much.
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Episode 453: Dave Asprey: Biohacking Secrets - Testosterone, Peptides, and Daily Routines for Optimal Human Performance
And I will say, your books are always ahead of its time. You keep on referring to these things. When I ask you a question, you're like, oh yeah, I wrote about that in 2016, like 10 years ago.
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Episode 453: Dave Asprey: Biohacking Secrets - Testosterone, Peptides, and Daily Routines for Optimal Human Performance
Because people are in the moment, right? And they don't remember that even all these new biohacking conferences, you did it before anybody else did it.
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Episode 453: Dave Asprey: Biohacking Secrets - Testosterone, Peptides, and Daily Routines for Optimal Human Performance
It's volume also, right? Like you get so much volume sent to you and you try so much more than the average person that you just have more opinion on more things that are in front of your face, basically.
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Episode 453: Dave Asprey: Biohacking Secrets - Testosterone, Peptides, and Daily Routines for Optimal Human Performance
But I will say I've been to a bazillion of them. You do have like the best one. Thank you. You really actually do.
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Episode 453: Dave Asprey: Biohacking Secrets - Testosterone, Peptides, and Daily Routines for Optimal Human Performance
They do a great, you do a great job at that conference. And I want to, oh, one more, the Dalai Lama. You didn't tell me about the Dalai Lama.
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Episode 453: Dave Asprey: Biohacking Secrets - Testosterone, Peptides, and Daily Routines for Optimal Human Performance
A dozen. How much does it cost?
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Episode 453: Dave Asprey: Biohacking Secrets - Testosterone, Peptides, and Daily Routines for Optimal Human Performance
Fair enough. Fair enough. Okay. Thank you for being on the show. Bye, everybody.
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Episode 453: Dave Asprey: Biohacking Secrets - Testosterone, Peptides, and Daily Routines for Optimal Human Performance
What is that, by the way? So you did finish the company, so you have four more to go.
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Episode 453: Dave Asprey: Biohacking Secrets - Testosterone, Peptides, and Daily Routines for Optimal Human Performance
Yeah, you have to just do your own thing and stay in your lane. Not everyone's going to love you. That's not what I'm here for. That's not what you're here for. But I want to hear the other companies.
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Episode 453: Dave Asprey: Biohacking Secrets - Testosterone, Peptides, and Daily Routines for Optimal Human Performance
Their tri-light panel has become my favorite biohacking thing for healing my body. It's a portable red light panel that I simply cannot live without. I literally bring it with me everywhere I go. And I personally use their red light therapy to help reduce inflammations in places in my body where, honestly, I have pain. You can use it on a sore back, stomach cramps, shoulder.
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Episode 453: Dave Asprey: Biohacking Secrets - Testosterone, Peptides, and Daily Routines for Optimal Human Performance
Welcome to part two of my conversation with Dave Asprey, the father of biohacking and the founder of Bulletproof Coffee. In this episode, we dive into the health hacks and daily routines that transformed his life. Dave reveals why exercise won't help you lose weight, why going vegan was his biggest mistake, and why he's been on testosterone since the age of 26.
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Episode 453: Dave Asprey: Biohacking Secrets - Testosterone, Peptides, and Daily Routines for Optimal Human Performance
Why is that though? You're right. The higher, more successful you become, you do, you do end up, that does happen. You end up like gravitating to those types of personalities more.
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Episode 453: Dave Asprey: Biohacking Secrets - Testosterone, Peptides, and Daily Routines for Optimal Human Performance
How much percentage of people have that or are that percentage?
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Episode 453: Dave Asprey: Biohacking Secrets - Testosterone, Peptides, and Daily Routines for Optimal Human Performance
ankle, red light therapy is my go-to. Plus, it also has amazing anti-aging benefits, including reducing signs of fine lines and wrinkles on your face, which I also use it for. I personally use Therasage Trilight everywhere and all the time. It's small, it's affordable, it's portable, and it's really effective. Head over to therasage.com right now and use code BEBOLD. for 15% off.
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Episode 453: Dave Asprey: Biohacking Secrets - Testosterone, Peptides, and Daily Routines for Optimal Human Performance
A lot.
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Episode 401: Dr. Mark Hyman: Why Only 6.8% of Americans are Healthy + His Recommended Anti-Aging Solutions
Right, optimization and deficiency is very different.
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Episode 401: Dr. Mark Hyman: Why Only 6.8% of Americans are Healthy + His Recommended Anti-Aging Solutions
What are you putting in it?
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Episode 401: Dr. Mark Hyman: Why Only 6.8% of Americans are Healthy + His Recommended Anti-Aging Solutions
He's written 18 New York Times, 19? 19 New York Times bestselling books. He is an MD and a functional medicine doctor, right? Yes.
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Episode 401: Dr. Mark Hyman: Why Only 6.8% of Americans are Healthy + His Recommended Anti-Aging Solutions
Every day.
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Episode 401: Dr. Mark Hyman: Why Only 6.8% of Americans are Healthy + His Recommended Anti-Aging Solutions
Do you eat eggs?
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Episode 401: Dr. Mark Hyman: Why Only 6.8% of Americans are Healthy + His Recommended Anti-Aging Solutions
Same thing. Well, I mean, you have the both. You have the Eastern and the Western.
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Episode 401: Dr. Mark Hyman: Why Only 6.8% of Americans are Healthy + His Recommended Anti-Aging Solutions
But this is if you're like, this is for people who are home 24 hours a day. Most people travel, they're working, they're going.
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Episode 401: Dr. Mark Hyman: Why Only 6.8% of Americans are Healthy + His Recommended Anti-Aging Solutions
Right. And you don't get like that, like feeling of like, yeah.
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Episode 401: Dr. Mark Hyman: Why Only 6.8% of Americans are Healthy + His Recommended Anti-Aging Solutions
Right. You just have to ask. What about fruit? You didn't mention any fruit.
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Episode 401: Dr. Mark Hyman: Why Only 6.8% of Americans are Healthy + His Recommended Anti-Aging Solutions
Right, right, right.
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Episode 401: Dr. Mark Hyman: Why Only 6.8% of Americans are Healthy + His Recommended Anti-Aging Solutions
Yeah.
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Episode 401: Dr. Mark Hyman: Why Only 6.8% of Americans are Healthy + His Recommended Anti-Aging Solutions
Right. But in terms of like grapes, mangoes, like things that are high, high, high sugar.
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Episode 401: Dr. Mark Hyman: Why Only 6.8% of Americans are Healthy + His Recommended Anti-Aging Solutions
Well, I ask because, you know, there's a controversy kind of because people are like, don't eat fruit because it's very high in sugar, obviously. Others are like, you never see a fat person who only eats fruit. But I will say, I'm a massive fruit eater. I love fruit. And I do gain weight if I eat, like, I love grapes. I can have five pounds of grapes in two seconds.
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Episode 401: Dr. Mark Hyman: Why Only 6.8% of Americans are Healthy + His Recommended Anti-Aging Solutions
Yeah, it's all about how much you're eating of everything, right? Yeah, exactly. Okay, so let's go back then. So that's what you eat every day. That makes sense. Now, what about strength training? You say you're doing it how many times? Because you're very, very lean and thin.
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Episode 401: Dr. Mark Hyman: Why Only 6.8% of Americans are Healthy + His Recommended Anti-Aging Solutions
Yeah, well, only explain it because people always, I think... I know it's maybe changed a little bit in terms of the perception, but like people are like, oh, I'm an MD or I'm a whatever I am. But I want to go on about all your accolades. The biggest, by the way, is he walked in. He looks like he's like 30 years younger than he actually is. So everything you're doing, I need to know about it.
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Episode 401: Dr. Mark Hyman: Why Only 6.8% of Americans are Healthy + His Recommended Anti-Aging Solutions
That's what you're doing?
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Episode 401: Dr. Mark Hyman: Why Only 6.8% of Americans are Healthy + His Recommended Anti-Aging Solutions
How about cardio? There's all this controversy over cardio, especially as we age, right? You know, people say that cardio breaks down muscle mass, right? So as we age, do you believe that cardio is something that we should all be doing?
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Episode 401: Dr. Mark Hyman: Why Only 6.8% of Americans are Healthy + His Recommended Anti-Aging Solutions
Right, right, right, exactly. By the way, Len still has a crazy VOT. Yeah, mine's like 45.
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Episode 401: Dr. Mark Hyman: Why Only 6.8% of Americans are Healthy + His Recommended Anti-Aging Solutions
Right, right, right. I remember that. Do you still... Okay, so let's just talk about the long... We're still on inflammation. Okay, so for inflammation, you said all the things about that. Is there anything else we can do? Because supplements, I know... Yeah.
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Episode 401: Dr. Mark Hyman: Why Only 6.8% of Americans are Healthy + His Recommended Anti-Aging Solutions
Well, I think the problem is that right now we're so inundated with information, right? Especially with social media. Everyone talks about this supplement, that supplement, do this, don't do that, do more of that. And things ebb and flow and trend, right? So like things that we talked about. Remember when carbs was a thing that we should be doing and not eating all this protein?
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Episode 401: Dr. Mark Hyman: Why Only 6.8% of Americans are Healthy + His Recommended Anti-Aging Solutions
Are there things that kind of like you've learned in your whole, in your evolution that you're like, wow, this is, I was totally wrong about this. I was completely, this is the way. And what are things like intermittent fasting, for example, like what is your, what's your thoughts on things that are so trendy now that I feel have had a little bit of a backlash to some people?
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Episode 401: Dr. Mark Hyman: Why Only 6.8% of Americans are Healthy + His Recommended Anti-Aging Solutions
It is unbelievable. He's like a fountain wealth of information. So I don't even know where to begin, except for what are you doing every day to look this good, this young? You are a walking longevity poster child.
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Episode 401: Dr. Mark Hyman: Why Only 6.8% of Americans are Healthy + His Recommended Anti-Aging Solutions
Yeah. That's what he, but he says all plants and there are people who think.
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Episode 401: Dr. Mark Hyman: Why Only 6.8% of Americans are Healthy + His Recommended Anti-Aging Solutions
He said, he said mostly plants. What about microwaving your food? Because it changes the molecular structure?
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Episode 401: Dr. Mark Hyman: Why Only 6.8% of Americans are Healthy + His Recommended Anti-Aging Solutions
It's terrible.
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Episode 401: Dr. Mark Hyman: Why Only 6.8% of Americans are Healthy + His Recommended Anti-Aging Solutions
But would you ever microwave your food for like a minute? Yeah.
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Episode 401: Dr. Mark Hyman: Why Only 6.8% of Americans are Healthy + His Recommended Anti-Aging Solutions
Because I got rid of mine thinking that it was like very dangerous.
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Episode 401: Dr. Mark Hyman: Why Only 6.8% of Americans are Healthy + His Recommended Anti-Aging Solutions
Okay, so you're not so crazy one way or the other. You do seem a little bit more like middle of the ground.
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Episode 401: Dr. Mark Hyman: Why Only 6.8% of Americans are Healthy + His Recommended Anti-Aging Solutions
Yeah. And do you feel like you are aging backwards?
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Episode 401: Dr. Mark Hyman: Why Only 6.8% of Americans are Healthy + His Recommended Anti-Aging Solutions
Right.
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Episode 401: Dr. Mark Hyman: Why Only 6.8% of Americans are Healthy + His Recommended Anti-Aging Solutions
No.
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Episode 401: Dr. Mark Hyman: Why Only 6.8% of Americans are Healthy + His Recommended Anti-Aging Solutions
So you're saying all these numbers, right? Which means that you're monitoring all these things and stats. So that tells me that you are a big believer in wearables, right? Like, are you wearing a glucose monitor? Are you wearing an Oura ring or a Whoop?
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Episode 401: Dr. Mark Hyman: Why Only 6.8% of Americans are Healthy + His Recommended Anti-Aging Solutions
That's a lot.
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Episode 401: Dr. Mark Hyman: Why Only 6.8% of Americans are Healthy + His Recommended Anti-Aging Solutions
In the world. So basically, how does it work? That's what I'm curious about. Do people walk into a Quest?
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Episode 401: Dr. Mark Hyman: Why Only 6.8% of Americans are Healthy + His Recommended Anti-Aging Solutions
and you get early access.
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Episode 401: Dr. Mark Hyman: Why Only 6.8% of Americans are Healthy + His Recommended Anti-Aging Solutions
That's amazing. Americans take up to 20,000 breaths a day and spend an average of 90% of their time indoors. The indoor air that we breathe can be up to 100 times more polluted than outdoor air. According to the EPA, indoor air pollutants can cause respiratory symptoms like sneezing, congestion, scratchy throat, and even more serious health problems like lung and heart disease.
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Episode 401: Dr. Mark Hyman: Why Only 6.8% of Americans are Healthy + His Recommended Anti-Aging Solutions
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Episode 401: Dr. Mark Hyman: Why Only 6.8% of Americans are Healthy + His Recommended Anti-Aging Solutions
So wait, so after you get all the testing and you have the dashboard, do you have someone who helps you kind of understand? Like, do you get like a doctor assigned?
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Episode 401: Dr. Mark Hyman: Why Only 6.8% of Americans are Healthy + His Recommended Anti-Aging Solutions
That's amazing, actually. And I can't believe how many biomarkers you're checking for. That's a lot.
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Episode 401: Dr. Mark Hyman: Why Only 6.8% of Americans are Healthy + His Recommended Anti-Aging Solutions
Wow.
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Episode 401: Dr. Mark Hyman: Why Only 6.8% of Americans are Healthy + His Recommended Anti-Aging Solutions
Oh, my God. So, like, Brian Johnson has nothing on you, right?
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Episode 401: Dr. Mark Hyman: Why Only 6.8% of Americans are Healthy + His Recommended Anti-Aging Solutions
By the way, just in that alone is worth doing it.
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Episode 401: Dr. Mark Hyman: Why Only 6.8% of Americans are Healthy + His Recommended Anti-Aging Solutions
So you can pick up cancer, you can pick up potential Alzheimer's.
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Episode 401: Dr. Mark Hyman: Why Only 6.8% of Americans are Healthy + His Recommended Anti-Aging Solutions
I'm going to get this test. Seriously, I'm going to... By the way, even before you were on this show, podcast... I was told about your program, like a few people told me about it, because I was told it was like way above other programs out there. Because everyone now is all, you know, jumping on these bandwagons, right? Like personalized health, telemedicine, all the things.
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Episode 401: Dr. Mark Hyman: Why Only 6.8% of Americans are Healthy + His Recommended Anti-Aging Solutions
Well, yeah, that's my whole point. Like, that's a massive difference. So what did you do different in those few years?
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Episode 401: Dr. Mark Hyman: Why Only 6.8% of Americans are Healthy + His Recommended Anti-Aging Solutions
But yours does sound like super extensive.
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Episode 401: Dr. Mark Hyman: Why Only 6.8% of Americans are Healthy + His Recommended Anti-Aging Solutions
Is that how you started at Canyon Ranch?
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Episode 401: Dr. Mark Hyman: Why Only 6.8% of Americans are Healthy + His Recommended Anti-Aging Solutions
That's funny. So that's how you started.
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Episode 401: Dr. Mark Hyman: Why Only 6.8% of Americans are Healthy + His Recommended Anti-Aging Solutions
What do they say?
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Episode 401: Dr. Mark Hyman: Why Only 6.8% of Americans are Healthy + His Recommended Anti-Aging Solutions
That's crazy.
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Episode 401: Dr. Mark Hyman: Why Only 6.8% of Americans are Healthy + His Recommended Anti-Aging Solutions
Where is she going to medical school?
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Episode 401: Dr. Mark Hyman: Why Only 6.8% of Americans are Healthy + His Recommended Anti-Aging Solutions
That is crazy.
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Episode 401: Dr. Mark Hyman: Why Only 6.8% of Americans are Healthy + His Recommended Anti-Aging Solutions
That's so crazy to me. And the funny, not funny at all, is that now you have people who are on these Ozempics and Wegovies who shouldn't be on them. They're like thin people.
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Episode 401: Dr. Mark Hyman: Why Only 6.8% of Americans are Healthy + His Recommended Anti-Aging Solutions
Is that a true thing, Ozempic face?
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Episode 401: Dr. Mark Hyman: Why Only 6.8% of Americans are Healthy + His Recommended Anti-Aging Solutions
Exactly.
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Episode 401: Dr. Mark Hyman: Why Only 6.8% of Americans are Healthy + His Recommended Anti-Aging Solutions
And I personally use their red light therapy to help reduce inflammations in places in my body where, honestly, I have pain. You can use it on a sore back, stomach cramps, shoulder, ankle, red light therapy is my go-to. Plus, it also has amazing anti-aging benefits, including reducing signs of fine lines and wrinkles on your face, which I also use it for.
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Episode 401: Dr. Mark Hyman: Why Only 6.8% of Americans are Healthy + His Recommended Anti-Aging Solutions
It's the diet. So it basically does come down to what you eat, your food, and how much you eat of it.
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Episode 401: Dr. Mark Hyman: Why Only 6.8% of Americans are Healthy + His Recommended Anti-Aging Solutions
Wow. Okay. So you said a bunch of things. So urolithin A, I was told by them actually, that it actually helps to build muscle after 30 years. Is that true?
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Episode 401: Dr. Mark Hyman: Why Only 6.8% of Americans are Healthy + His Recommended Anti-Aging Solutions
Right, your percentage is fat.
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Episode 401: Dr. Mark Hyman: Why Only 6.8% of Americans are Healthy + His Recommended Anti-Aging Solutions
Yeah, that is unbelievable.
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Episode 401: Dr. Mark Hyman: Why Only 6.8% of Americans are Healthy + His Recommended Anti-Aging Solutions
What I find to be unbelievable is that everyone seems to look for these quick fad diets or quick fixes, but yet what you're saying is pretty basic, right? It's the same things that if they watch what they eat, quality of the food, inflammation. It's It's not that hard. It's not that hard, but yet people are trying to over, or they're overwhelmed with like all this like noise.
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Episode 401: Dr. Mark Hyman: Why Only 6.8% of Americans are Healthy + His Recommended Anti-Aging Solutions
You know, the other thing I wanted to ask you about Ozempic or any of these or Govees or whatever, can your body acclimate over time anyway? And so you end up even eating what you ate before you even started taking?
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Episode 401: Dr. Mark Hyman: Why Only 6.8% of Americans are Healthy + His Recommended Anti-Aging Solutions
You keep on saying patients. Do you still see patients?
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Episode 401: Dr. Mark Hyman: Why Only 6.8% of Americans are Healthy + His Recommended Anti-Aging Solutions
So you actually still see like one of- I'm a doctor, yes.
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Episode 401: Dr. Mark Hyman: Why Only 6.8% of Americans are Healthy + His Recommended Anti-Aging Solutions
Listen, this is very refreshing. I thought of all the people, of all the doctors, you wouldn't have time because do you know how many times I've seen doctors sit in the same chair you are and they are, they're doctors. Yeah, I guess they have a certificate, but they don't practice. They write books and they like to do media and they like to do all these other things.
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Episode 401: Dr. Mark Hyman: Why Only 6.8% of Americans are Healthy + His Recommended Anti-Aging Solutions
But people don't like to do it. Like it's impossible to find, like the big joke is I can't find a doctor.
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Episode 401: Dr. Mark Hyman: Why Only 6.8% of Americans are Healthy + His Recommended Anti-Aging Solutions
You actually are like, would you take another, another patient? I need a doctor because there is such a shortage of doctors.
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Episode 401: Dr. Mark Hyman: Why Only 6.8% of Americans are Healthy + His Recommended Anti-Aging Solutions
Like what is the waiting list for that? Like, do you have like a crazy waiting list?
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Episode 401: Dr. Mark Hyman: Why Only 6.8% of Americans are Healthy + His Recommended Anti-Aging Solutions
I've
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Episode 401: Dr. Mark Hyman: Why Only 6.8% of Americans are Healthy + His Recommended Anti-Aging Solutions
That's exactly true.
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Episode 401: Dr. Mark Hyman: Why Only 6.8% of Americans are Healthy + His Recommended Anti-Aging Solutions
How is it even possible? I thought there was no cure. Well, there is.
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Episode 401: Dr. Mark Hyman: Why Only 6.8% of Americans are Healthy + His Recommended Anti-Aging Solutions
Give us some things that we can do for our brain health.
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Episode 401: Dr. Mark Hyman: Why Only 6.8% of Americans are Healthy + His Recommended Anti-Aging Solutions
But why? That's what I don't understand.
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Episode 401: Dr. Mark Hyman: Why Only 6.8% of Americans are Healthy + His Recommended Anti-Aging Solutions
There's more education out than ever before, right? We're more educated, you'd think, like there's information out there. How is it instead of getting less obese, we're getting more obese? Instead of getting healthier, we're getting more sick? When we are overloaded with people and information, like the health industry, longevity industry, it's a trillion-dollar business.
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Episode 401: Dr. Mark Hyman: Why Only 6.8% of Americans are Healthy + His Recommended Anti-Aging Solutions
Why is it different here than the UK?
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Episode 401: Dr. Mark Hyman: Why Only 6.8% of Americans are Healthy + His Recommended Anti-Aging Solutions
I was going to ask you about that.
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Episode 401: Dr. Mark Hyman: Why Only 6.8% of Americans are Healthy + His Recommended Anti-Aging Solutions
Yeah, I remember it.
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Episode 401: Dr. Mark Hyman: Why Only 6.8% of Americans are Healthy + His Recommended Anti-Aging Solutions
Oh, I thought that's why they call it shortening.
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Episode 401: Dr. Mark Hyman: Why Only 6.8% of Americans are Healthy + His Recommended Anti-Aging Solutions
Me too, right? We all did.
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Episode 401: Dr. Mark Hyman: Why Only 6.8% of Americans are Healthy + His Recommended Anti-Aging Solutions
Me too. I think that was kind of like every child, you know? Like my daughter right now.
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Episode 401: Dr. Mark Hyman: Why Only 6.8% of Americans are Healthy + His Recommended Anti-Aging Solutions
Totally, totally.
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Episode 401: Dr. Mark Hyman: Why Only 6.8% of Americans are Healthy + His Recommended Anti-Aging Solutions
I'm from Toronto. You're Canadian?
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Episode 401: Dr. Mark Hyman: Why Only 6.8% of Americans are Healthy + His Recommended Anti-Aging Solutions
I meant like you grew up in Toronto?
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Episode 401: Dr. Mark Hyman: Why Only 6.8% of Americans are Healthy + His Recommended Anti-Aging Solutions
Where?
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Episode 401: Dr. Mark Hyman: Why Only 6.8% of Americans are Healthy + His Recommended Anti-Aging Solutions
Really? Oh my God, that is hilarious. Where'd you go to medical school?
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Episode 401: Dr. Mark Hyman: Why Only 6.8% of Americans are Healthy + His Recommended Anti-Aging Solutions
I'm from Ottawa. Are you serious? Does anybody know this about you? All the Canadians? So are you surprised? I have to ask you because like when you started all this stuff, your career, it wasn't like trendy and cool to be a doctor. It wasn't trendy. It wasn't like a massive industry like what we were talking about earlier. And then it's blown up to be like the hot thing.
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Episode 401: Dr. Mark Hyman: Why Only 6.8% of Americans are Healthy + His Recommended Anti-Aging Solutions
You know how there's all these different trends. We're talking about entrepreneurship, health, longevity. Are you surprised at how you've become so popular in the trajectory of your career? Did you expect this all to happen?
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Episode 401: Dr. Mark Hyman: Why Only 6.8% of Americans are Healthy + His Recommended Anti-Aging Solutions
Oh, okay.
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Episode 401: Dr. Mark Hyman: Why Only 6.8% of Americans are Healthy + His Recommended Anti-Aging Solutions
And also, I know you're into Buddhism and all that stuff too, right? Are you still into that stuff?
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Episode 401: Dr. Mark Hyman: Why Only 6.8% of Americans are Healthy + His Recommended Anti-Aging Solutions
Right. That's a good way of putting it. What do you think about all the other modalities that can help, like meditation, all the other things that help with, like, lowering your, I guess, your stress levels, that help with...
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Episode 401: Dr. Mark Hyman: Why Only 6.8% of Americans are Healthy + His Recommended Anti-Aging Solutions
You said that in the beginning of the podcast.
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Episode 401: Dr. Mark Hyman: Why Only 6.8% of Americans are Healthy + His Recommended Anti-Aging Solutions
And so how accessible is this to the average person?
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Episode 401: Dr. Mark Hyman: Why Only 6.8% of Americans are Healthy + His Recommended Anti-Aging Solutions
Yeah. As a dialysis, as you were saying.
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Episode 401: Dr. Mark Hyman: Why Only 6.8% of Americans are Healthy + His Recommended Anti-Aging Solutions
In one session?
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Episode 401: Dr. Mark Hyman: Why Only 6.8% of Americans are Healthy + His Recommended Anti-Aging Solutions
Wow. And how long does it take to do it?
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Episode 401: Dr. Mark Hyman: Why Only 6.8% of Americans are Healthy + His Recommended Anti-Aging Solutions
Wow. A friend of mine developed long COVID and he had a horrible gut problem and it was terrible. Would you suggest, would this type of thing that you just said be good for all different sorts of long COVID?
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Episode 401: Dr. Mark Hyman: Why Only 6.8% of Americans are Healthy + His Recommended Anti-Aging Solutions
Wow. Okay. And then you said something else in the beginning about what you do. You said you were riffing off a few. You said that. And you said another thing that you do that's kind of on the cutting edge. What was that?
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Episode 401: Dr. Mark Hyman: Why Only 6.8% of Americans are Healthy + His Recommended Anti-Aging Solutions
No, not rapamycin. But you can talk about that too. Isn't that just a supplement though?
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Episode 401: Dr. Mark Hyman: Why Only 6.8% of Americans are Healthy + His Recommended Anti-Aging Solutions
Oh, wait. Isn't that the drug that people take for COVID though?
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Episode 401: Dr. Mark Hyman: Why Only 6.8% of Americans are Healthy + His Recommended Anti-Aging Solutions
Really? So would you suggest people take trying it?
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Episode 401: Dr. Mark Hyman: Why Only 6.8% of Americans are Healthy + His Recommended Anti-Aging Solutions
Okay. What was the other thing that you said that you're doing that's a little bit more unique?
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Episode 401: Dr. Mark Hyman: Why Only 6.8% of Americans are Healthy + His Recommended Anti-Aging Solutions
What do you think about exosome stem cells in the U.S. versus outside the U.S.? Are they different?
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Episode 401: Dr. Mark Hyman: Why Only 6.8% of Americans are Healthy + His Recommended Anti-Aging Solutions
Yeah.
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Episode 401: Dr. Mark Hyman: Why Only 6.8% of Americans are Healthy + His Recommended Anti-Aging Solutions
And so, okay, so exosomes, anything else that you do?
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Episode 401: Dr. Mark Hyman: Why Only 6.8% of Americans are Healthy + His Recommended Anti-Aging Solutions
What supplements are you taking?
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Episode 401: Dr. Mark Hyman: Why Only 6.8% of Americans are Healthy + His Recommended Anti-Aging Solutions
Yeah, where do you get that from?
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Episode 401: Dr. Mark Hyman: Why Only 6.8% of Americans are Healthy + His Recommended Anti-Aging Solutions
I know them. Okay.
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Episode 401: Dr. Mark Hyman: Why Only 6.8% of Americans are Healthy + His Recommended Anti-Aging Solutions
I'm going to write this down.
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Episode 401: Dr. Mark Hyman: Why Only 6.8% of Americans are Healthy + His Recommended Anti-Aging Solutions
Like, why don't you take- They're interchangeable, I think. Do you think they're similar? Yeah. Really? I heard that NR, from what I understand, it gets into your cells easier.
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Episode 401: Dr. Mark Hyman: Why Only 6.8% of Americans are Healthy + His Recommended Anti-Aging Solutions
Exactly. That's a good point.
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Episode 401: Dr. Mark Hyman: Why Only 6.8% of Americans are Healthy + His Recommended Anti-Aging Solutions
I know, but isn't NMN Sinclair, right?
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Episode 401: Dr. Mark Hyman: Why Only 6.8% of Americans are Healthy + His Recommended Anti-Aging Solutions
Okay, you must be friends with Sinclair. Are you friends with him?
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Episode 401: Dr. Mark Hyman: Why Only 6.8% of Americans are Healthy + His Recommended Anti-Aging Solutions
Okay, so that's why. Okay, so you're taking that. What else would you say you're doing besides all those stacks?
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Episode 401: Dr. Mark Hyman: Why Only 6.8% of Americans are Healthy + His Recommended Anti-Aging Solutions
I actually think that loneliness is our biggest pet.
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Episode 401: Dr. Mark Hyman: Why Only 6.8% of Americans are Healthy + His Recommended Anti-Aging Solutions
Yeah, people can die from loneliness. So I totally agree. I know you need to get out of here. Is there anything else that we can talk about that's a little bit... What's the number one question people ask you?
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Episode 401: Dr. Mark Hyman: Why Only 6.8% of Americans are Healthy + His Recommended Anti-Aging Solutions
What's the one thing that you hear the most people say? Is it the gut? Is it brain? What's the one thing right now that you're getting the most text messages, the most DMs about? Not even maybe check your own DMs.
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Episode 401: Dr. Mark Hyman: Why Only 6.8% of Americans are Healthy + His Recommended Anti-Aging Solutions
I have one question. Focus on ADHD. Do you think that that's a real thing? Do you think that we can eat better to actually have a better focus, being more alert?
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Episode 401: Dr. Mark Hyman: Why Only 6.8% of Americans are Healthy + His Recommended Anti-Aging Solutions
Nature deficit disorder? Is that more like you're on your social media too much? Yeah. And technology?
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Episode 401: Dr. Mark Hyman: Why Only 6.8% of Americans are Healthy + His Recommended Anti-Aging Solutions
This is why I'm asking the question because I have kids.
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Episode 401: Dr. Mark Hyman: Why Only 6.8% of Americans are Healthy + His Recommended Anti-Aging Solutions
Yeah. And also exercise overall, just moving your body, going outside, all these things are so good for your overall productivity. Mark, you're amazing. Thank you for being on the show, on the podcast. You guys, so we said for Dr. Hyman's new and most, his new company, Function Health, which is probably now the fastest growing health company, you said, on the planet.
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Episode 401: Dr. Mark Hyman: Why Only 6.8% of Americans are Healthy + His Recommended Anti-Aging Solutions
He's giving everybody, the first hundred people, the code is Hyman. Hustle 100, you're going to skip the line and you are going to get early access.
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Episode 401: Dr. Mark Hyman: Why Only 6.8% of Americans are Healthy + His Recommended Anti-Aging Solutions
Functionhealth.com. Tell them everything. Tell them everything. All your 90,000 books and all the things, you know?
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Episode 401: Dr. Mark Hyman: Why Only 6.8% of Americans are Healthy + His Recommended Anti-Aging Solutions
They know all about you. You have millions of followers. Okay, thank you so much. You're an awesome, awesome guest, and I appreciate you being here.
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Episode 401: Dr. Mark Hyman: Why Only 6.8% of Americans are Healthy + His Recommended Anti-Aging Solutions
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Episode 401: Dr. Mark Hyman: Why Only 6.8% of Americans are Healthy + His Recommended Anti-Aging Solutions
But is there things we can do without supplementing? I know you wrote a book about food for medicine and all these things. Like if we just eat a bunch of pomegranates, I know that's not going to be the answer. But at the core root, you said something and I was going to even ask you about it. It was at the core, the root cause of a lot of problems, I was under the impression is inflammation, right?
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Episode 401: Dr. Mark Hyman: Why Only 6.8% of Americans are Healthy + His Recommended Anti-Aging Solutions
And so what can people do who don't have access to supplements, who don't have access to all the fancy latest and greatest? What are like easy strategies? Let's just say like simple things that people can do to help reduce their inflammation.
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Episode 401: Dr. Mark Hyman: Why Only 6.8% of Americans are Healthy + His Recommended Anti-Aging Solutions
Did you even remember all the titles of the books?
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Episode 401: Dr. Mark Hyman: Why Only 6.8% of Americans are Healthy + His Recommended Anti-Aging Solutions
I know.
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Episode 401: Dr. Mark Hyman: Why Only 6.8% of Americans are Healthy + His Recommended Anti-Aging Solutions
So what are they eating instead? If they're taking out, that's like everything. If you're not eating good.
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Episode 401: Dr. Mark Hyman: Why Only 6.8% of Americans are Healthy + His Recommended Anti-Aging Solutions
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Episode 401: Dr. Mark Hyman: Why Only 6.8% of Americans are Healthy + His Recommended Anti-Aging Solutions
In the morning, what are you eating?
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Episode 401: Dr. Mark Hyman: Why Only 6.8% of Americans are Healthy + His Recommended Anti-Aging Solutions
What do you put in the protein shake?
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Episode 401: Dr. Mark Hyman: Why Only 6.8% of Americans are Healthy + His Recommended Anti-Aging Solutions
Where do you get this from?
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Episode 401: Dr. Mark Hyman: Why Only 6.8% of Americans are Healthy + His Recommended Anti-Aging Solutions
And what's the benefit of Goat Whey versus Goat Whey?
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Episode 401: Dr. Mark Hyman: Why Only 6.8% of Americans are Healthy + His Recommended Anti-Aging Solutions
I wasn't just saying that on the story, the Instagram story. We have Dr. Mark Hyman on the podcast today. And guys, I'm sure you know who he is. He's probably the most famous doctor I think I know. I've known about you for 100 years. At least 100.
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Episode 401: Dr. Mark Hyman: Why Only 6.8% of Americans are Healthy + His Recommended Anti-Aging Solutions
Oh, wait, hold on. I've got so many questions. I mean, there's so much information. Okay, so goat whey. How about, like, what would you say compared that to, let's say, almond milk or, you know, cashew milk, alternative milk?
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Episode 401: Dr. Mark Hyman: Why Only 6.8% of Americans are Healthy + His Recommended Anti-Aging Solutions
Oh, wow, yeah.
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Episode 435: Dr. Stacy Sims: Workout Like a Woman Not a "Little Man" + How To Train Based on Hormones
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Episode 435: Dr. Stacy Sims: Workout Like a Woman Not a "Little Man" + How To Train Based on Hormones
I want you to kind of talk from your words, like what you do and why it's so important.
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Episode 435: Dr. Stacy Sims: Workout Like a Woman Not a "Little Man" + How To Train Based on Hormones
So I got so many questions. Okay. So you said, you said pull her up. Okay. So when people, women hear high intensity training, they're thinking orange theory. They're thinking Barry's bootcamp. I don't know if you know what these, I mean, New Zealand that they have Barry's bootcamp.
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Episode 435: Dr. Stacy Sims: Workout Like a Woman Not a "Little Man" + How To Train Based on Hormones
They're thinking of these classes that are, they're like taking you to the max and the, you know, or they're trying on the, on the treadmills and then they're going back and forth and you sweat like a, you know, you sweat like a fiend. I heard you say that that is not. actually high-intensity training. Why is that not considered high-intensity training?
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Episode 435: Dr. Stacy Sims: Workout Like a Woman Not a "Little Man" + How To Train Based on Hormones
And so does that, so if I were to do or not, or anybody who was perimetopause in their forties or over, and they think that they're doing themselves a service by going to Orange Theory five days a week or Barry's Bootcamp, will those classes actually make them worse off with more body fat than if they just didn't do anything or just, I don't know, just walked around the block?
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Episode 435: Dr. Stacy Sims: Workout Like a Woman Not a "Little Man" + How To Train Based on Hormones
Wow. So if I were to do like a weighted bet, like if I wore a weighted vest and went for an inclined walk on a treadmill at a low pace, would that be more beneficial than doing Orange Theory class for perimenopause?
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Episode 435: Dr. Stacy Sims: Workout Like a Woman Not a "Little Man" + How To Train Based on Hormones
I love that you said that. So, you know, it's really funny. I'm laughing and giggling because I get all these questions all the time about what do I do? Should I do this or that or this? And, you know, weighted vests have become like, again, it's like the new kale. The thing. Like everything. There's all these trends that like come and go.
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Episode 435: Dr. Stacy Sims: Workout Like a Woman Not a "Little Man" + How To Train Based on Hormones
And, you know, then all of a sudden, all the same people who are wearing these weighted vests are now complaining of their foot is hurting. Their Achilles is hurting. They can't walk. Because the weight from here is going down to your foot because it's not properly balanced. Right.
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Episode 435: Dr. Stacy Sims: Workout Like a Woman Not a "Little Man" + How To Train Based on Hormones
So, OK, so then to do that, that's a better option. OK, so then what now? So what is polarized training? Because you said that or two. You said polarized training is a big one.
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Episode 435: Dr. Stacy Sims: Workout Like a Woman Not a "Little Man" + How To Train Based on Hormones
How many times a week would you recommend someone doing this type of workout?
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Episode 435: Dr. Stacy Sims: Workout Like a Woman Not a "Little Man" + How To Train Based on Hormones
Why is jump training so popular? Not popular. Why is jump training so important?
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Episode 435: Dr. Stacy Sims: Workout Like a Woman Not a "Little Man" + How To Train Based on Hormones
What would be considered jump training, like plyo jumps, like on a box?
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Episode 435: Dr. Stacy Sims: Workout Like a Woman Not a "Little Man" + How To Train Based on Hormones
So don't laugh, but how about just jumping on a trampoline? Because you're still going up and down vertically. Right.
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Episode 435: Dr. Stacy Sims: Workout Like a Woman Not a "Little Man" + How To Train Based on Hormones
How about, you're a nutrition scientist as well. So what is your take on women and fasting in perimetopause and menopause?
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Episode 435: Dr. Stacy Sims: Workout Like a Woman Not a "Little Man" + How To Train Based on Hormones
Yeah, but again, another huge trend, as I'm sure you know, is this whole idea of fasting, fasting, fasting. And I don't understand how with hormonal issues and or just as someone who is someone who is active, how do you not eat and then also be active? If you're someone who doesn't move all day, right? Okay. And I know that, I think she was on my podcast. I think you did her podcast.
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Episode 435: Dr. Stacy Sims: Workout Like a Woman Not a "Little Man" + How To Train Based on Hormones
And she goes on about like, autophagy and how it's actually really important for women to be fasting in their 40s. And this whole idea, it's actually much healthier to do it. And we went back and forth because I can see how it is for men. I see how men respond to the fasting differently than how I've seen women respond. Yeah.
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Episode 435: Dr. Stacy Sims: Workout Like a Woman Not a "Little Man" + How To Train Based on Hormones
Right. Because, you know, I think a lot of times a woman and a man can do the same workout, eat the same food, do all the same training, and the results are very, very different. And it's frustrating. I mean, it's frustrating for me anyway, right? Yeah. So true. And, you know, a lot of times I would kind of, you know, people chalk it up to genetics or that men just have more muscle mass on them.
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Episode 435: Dr. Stacy Sims: Workout Like a Woman Not a "Little Man" + How To Train Based on Hormones
Thank you.
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Thank you. Thank you.
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Episode 435: Dr. Stacy Sims: Workout Like a Woman Not a "Little Man" + How To Train Based on Hormones
Thank you.
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Episode 435: Dr. Stacy Sims: Workout Like a Woman Not a "Little Man" + How To Train Based on Hormones
Can you kind of go, I mean, this is what the podcast is about, but can we talk about how you see how men should train versus women and what women should be doing across the evolution of the different timelines in their life, 20, 30, 40, 50?
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Episode 435: Dr. Stacy Sims: Workout Like a Woman Not a "Little Man" + How To Train Based on Hormones
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Episode 435: Dr. Stacy Sims: Workout Like a Woman Not a "Little Man" + How To Train Based on Hormones
What do you say about that? Like, do you believe the microdosing for the inflammation and all these other longevity reasons? Is there any truth to that at all? Or is it just people just having misinformation and just jumping on the bandwagon because they're a little thinner?
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Episode 435: Dr. Stacy Sims: Workout Like a Woman Not a "Little Man" + How To Train Based on Hormones
You know, also when it comes to Ozempic, if someone were to compound that with strength training, would that offset the problem of bone density loss and the muscle mass? Would it actually balance itself out? Yep.
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Episode 435: Dr. Stacy Sims: Workout Like a Woman Not a "Little Man" + How To Train Based on Hormones
So, okay. And then, by the way, I just remember something else going back to the other part about training. We talked about menopause and perimetopause training. What about if you're not at that place? What type of training should someone actually do if they're in their 20s or 30s that's different than when they're 40s, 50s, 60s? We missed that part.
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Episode 435: Dr. Stacy Sims: Workout Like a Woman Not a "Little Man" + How To Train Based on Hormones
So yeah. So how do you train? Give me a day in the life of you. What's your day to day? What kind of habits do you do beyond? I mean, obviously you look great. So I want to know what time you wake up, you're sleeping. What are all your habits and routine?
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Episode 435: Dr. Stacy Sims: Workout Like a Woman Not a "Little Man" + How To Train Based on Hormones
Really? Oh, no.
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Episode 435: Dr. Stacy Sims: Workout Like a Woman Not a "Little Man" + How To Train Based on Hormones
It'll heal. How long will it take to heal, do they say?
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Episode 435: Dr. Stacy Sims: Workout Like a Woman Not a "Little Man" + How To Train Based on Hormones
Oh, my God. Doing what? Just traveling? Yeah.
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Episode 435: Dr. Stacy Sims: Workout Like a Woman Not a "Little Man" + How To Train Based on Hormones
Oh, okay. Well, then, I'm so bummed. Like, why didn't we do this in person, by the way? I don't understand why we're doing this on a computer if you were going to be coming here anyway.
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Episode 435: Dr. Stacy Sims: Workout Like a Woman Not a "Little Man" + How To Train Based on Hormones
But to finish, I want to hear your, besides the meniscus, what else happened with your habits and your routine? Okay.
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Episode 435: Dr. Stacy Sims: Workout Like a Woman Not a "Little Man" + How To Train Based on Hormones
Especially when you're active. Do you train people still regularly?
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Episode 435: Dr. Stacy Sims: Workout Like a Woman Not a "Little Man" + How To Train Based on Hormones
Right. Exactly. Can I just ask you a couple more questions and I can hopefully see you when you're here. I want you to tell me, can you tell me what you think the most underrated health tip would be and the most overrated health tip or most overrated health tip?
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Episode 435: Dr. Stacy Sims: Workout Like a Woman Not a "Little Man" + How To Train Based on Hormones
Mm-hmm.
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Episode 435: Dr. Stacy Sims: Workout Like a Woman Not a "Little Man" + How To Train Based on Hormones
So what happens if we do the cold therapy? I mean, because I hate it, you know, and I won't do it. And I get a lot of, you know, slack for that. But what does it do to the body in layman's terms? Like what does it do to a woman's body when they jump into a cold plunge? Because I think it's good for them.
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Episode 435: Dr. Stacy Sims: Workout Like a Woman Not a "Little Man" + How To Train Based on Hormones
Yeah, I know.
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Episode 435: Dr. Stacy Sims: Workout Like a Woman Not a "Little Man" + How To Train Based on Hormones
It's crazy. I mean, but do I, if I wait long enough and it gets to 165, I'm lucky. Yeah. Do you still get the same benefits as you would in a finished sauna if it's an infrared sauna?
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Episode 435: Dr. Stacy Sims: Workout Like a Woman Not a "Little Man" + How To Train Based on Hormones
No, I wish I did sweat. It doesn't get hot. These things don't get that very hot. Have you ever been in one? Like these things are like 50 degrees much cooler than the Finnish saunas.
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Episode 435: Dr. Stacy Sims: Workout Like a Woman Not a "Little Man" + How To Train Based on Hormones
I know, that's what I'm saying. It's like a cold plunge. I mean, it's like crazy. It's so not hot, but I don't know. I mean, so you believe that that's kind of all hype, the infrared sauna, because it gets maybe your skin a little bit warm.
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Episode 435: Dr. Stacy Sims: Workout Like a Woman Not a "Little Man" + How To Train Based on Hormones
Or just get a new sauna, call it a day, right?
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Episode 435: Dr. Stacy Sims: Workout Like a Woman Not a "Little Man" + How To Train Based on Hormones
I think that's a great idea. Okay. Well, I, again, Dr. Stacey Sims, you've been a delight like I knew you would be. Thank you so much. No, you have. And thank you for being on the podcast, even though I feel like it was, it wasn't the same as being in person. So I really hope we can do it in person next time.
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Episode 435: Dr. Stacy Sims: Workout Like a Woman Not a "Little Man" + How To Train Based on Hormones
I absolutely will. And everyone should go check out Dr. Stacey Stimms. What do you have? The book is called Roar, but it's a little, when was it out, your book? It was a while already.
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Episode 435: Dr. Stacy Sims: Workout Like a Woman Not a "Little Man" + How To Train Based on Hormones
Last year.
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Episode 435: Dr. Stacy Sims: Workout Like a Woman Not a "Little Man" + How To Train Based on Hormones
And I hope you feel better with your meniscus.
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Episode 435: Dr. Stacy Sims: Workout Like a Woman Not a "Little Man" + How To Train Based on Hormones
But you're not working out, correct?
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Episode 435: Dr. Stacy Sims: Workout Like a Woman Not a "Little Man" + How To Train Based on Hormones
Okay. That's good.
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Episode 435: Dr. Stacy Sims: Workout Like a Woman Not a "Little Man" + How To Train Based on Hormones
Okay, good. Well, thank you again. I appreciate you and I'll see you hopefully in a month.
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Episode 435: Dr. Stacy Sims: Workout Like a Woman Not a "Little Man" + How To Train Based on Hormones
Be awesome. Thanks. Thank you.
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Episode 435: Dr. Stacy Sims: Workout Like a Woman Not a "Little Man" + How To Train Based on Hormones
Biomechanics is a really big one, right? Because even women who have, I'll talk about that later on in life, but I saw something about how women have more ACL issues, right? And where are the other injuries and things that women are more prone to injury-wise or happen to women versus men because of our biomechanics? And then also, how should we train for our biomechanics?
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Episode 435: Dr. Stacy Sims: Workout Like a Woman Not a "Little Man" + How To Train Based on Hormones
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Episode 435: Dr. Stacy Sims: Workout Like a Woman Not a "Little Man" + How To Train Based on Hormones
I'm laughing, crying and laughing at the same time because I've had, I'm in my 40s. I had the frozen shoulder for two years almost. It's finally now dissipated. And I had the plantar fasciitis. And I didn't realize that those were two things that went with my age. I had no clue until I went down. I thought maybe I like pulled a muscle in my shoulder.
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Episode 435: Dr. Stacy Sims: Workout Like a Woman Not a "Little Man" + How To Train Based on Hormones
And the guy was like, no, you have a frozen shoulder. And I'm like, what the hell is that? Like, how does someone get that? They're like, you're old, basically, is what he said to me, right? And I never understood, like, I get the ACL because you're right. Like, we are quad dominant, right? And women tend to do those lunges and those squats. But the frozen shoulder, I didn't understand.
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Episode 435: Dr. Stacy Sims: Workout Like a Woman Not a "Little Man" + How To Train Based on Hormones
I did not understand that.
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Episode 435: Dr. Stacy Sims: Workout Like a Woman Not a "Little Man" + How To Train Based on Hormones
So what should we be doing to offset that type of injury in the frozen shoulder? What is a good exercise to focus on?
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Episode 435: Dr. Stacy Sims: Workout Like a Woman Not a "Little Man" + How To Train Based on Hormones
And what about for ACL issues to kind of strengthen? What do you think is the best way to strengthen our posterior chain?
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Episode 435: Dr. Stacy Sims: Workout Like a Woman Not a "Little Man" + How To Train Based on Hormones
Oh, that's good. Right. And so, but as we get older, we talked about, you were saying like, as you're getting into perimenopause, menopause, let's stay with that because I think my audience can appreciate that. And that's something that I feel like that's become super trendy now too. Like I don't remember, maybe because I'm at that age, I'm seeing it more or is it something that- No, it's come up.
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Episode 435: Dr. Stacy Sims: Workout Like a Woman Not a "Little Man" + How To Train Based on Hormones
Right?
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Episode 435: Dr. Stacy Sims: Workout Like a Woman Not a "Little Man" + How To Train Based on Hormones
Thank you, because I think that's a great point. Because like I said, I see it, if you scroll on social media, every second post is about menopause and or perimenopause. And I think the problem is there is so much noise and so much information, people are very confused. I know I'm confused, right? And I do this for a living.
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Episode 435: Dr. Stacy Sims: Workout Like a Woman Not a "Little Man" + How To Train Based on Hormones
And I've had like all the same top doctors come on here and talk about it. And I'm still confused because they don't even agree with each other.
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Episode 435: Dr. Stacy Sims: Workout Like a Woman Not a "Little Man" + How To Train Based on Hormones
Dr. Stacey Sims, I want you to know that I've been a fan of your work for, I just said this earlier, but for years, because I saw your TED Talk on basically how women are not these little men. And, you know, the fact that you've been out there, like you said, talking about women and how women are not like men and they shouldn't be training like men and blah, blah.
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Episode 435: Dr. Stacy Sims: Workout Like a Woman Not a "Little Man" + How To Train Based on Hormones
Right. I think there's so much confusion. So let's start with perimenopause, right? Because it's before menopause. How should women be training, eating, recovering in that space for optimal results? Yeah.
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
So give me the first couple things. Absolutely. How does someone become unforgettable?
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
So let's say someone comes to you or they're listening to you and they have no idea where to pull that from. Yeah, absolutely.
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
But like, I don't even know the euphemism to describe what you talk about because I can go through and I don't ever do this. But the reason why I even like was so like adamant to get Lisa on this show.
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
Like, how can I not be? It's because whenever I saw like randomly one time I was on YouTube and something that you did showed up just randomly and it was so powerful and so good. It was this clip that you were talking about, like someone's perception of you. Ain't none of your business. Is none of your business. And that I was like, wow.
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
But a lot of people that you see, they're not able to do that right away, I would imagine, right? There's a lot of blockages, right? Because of, like we should go back one, right? Because of self-doubt, because of the fear, because of all of these things. So like... That's a great way to kind of tell people to start. Like, that's an action-oriented thing. Baby step. It's a big baby step.
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
Is that also how people can start overcoming their self-doubt and beginning to feel confident? I guess, could they start feeling confident in that way? Yeah.
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
Well, you said something that's interesting because when I was watching your stuff, and even you said it now when you were talking about the seven things that you say to yourself, like why did I, you know, so you forgive yourself for this and you forgive yourself for that. Because you said that you were in like this abusive relationship, right?
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
And the way it's not even what you said, it's how you said it was so powerful.
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
Which is an interesting thing to say because I saw this video once that you did about your father taking you on your first date. Oh, yeah. It was a great video, by the way. Again, this is the power of you, Lisa, because everything that you do, maybe it's just, I can't imagine, it's not obviously just me, it's everybody, but it lands so hard.
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
Like, he took you on your first date to show you, well, you tell the story, you're way better than I am.
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
This is why I felt like this was really powerful is because you said that, and I'm paraphrasing, but your dad took you when you're 12 or 10 years old or 11 years old on a dinner date. To the marina. To the Marina del Rey, yep. And he said to you afterwards something like, you know, you had a beautiful dinner, he treated you nicely, he was beautiful, napkin, whatever, napkin.
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
Opened the car door, was very chivalrous, was very gentleman-like. And he said, now, Lisa, this is how you should be. This is now that you've had your first date. This is how you should be treated. And then it goes, he said, this is how you get to be treated.
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
The conviction is. The tone, the body language, everything about your speaking just like hooked me. And I went down that rabbit hole about you. And I'm like, oh my God, I need to meet this woman because she is like literally the real deal. Because in a world, and you know this. I do. Most people are not the real deal. There's zero authenticity in a world that's supposed to be authentic right now.
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
You've got to watch the clip because I butchered it. I'm so sorry.
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
Well, this is what, can you keep on making these references that you did grow up really nicely? You had, you know, you maybe didn't grow up in a wonderful area and you were on food stamps. However, you had a nice family.
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
A great dad, a great mom. Yeah. And so you don't have the typical foundation to fumble into that. Right. And then your dad even showed you how you should be treated. And then how did you allow yourself to become someone who was in this terrible relationship?
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
They market well. It's all marketing. They market well. But there's like no substance and there's no depth at all. Yeah. So, which is why I'm so happy you're on the show.
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
That's great. Because, you know, I think hope is so important, right? And so many people, if they don't have hope, then that's when they really are lost. How did you maintain hope or how do you tell people to hold on and have hope? Because I think a lot of people, when they feel hopeless, there's no going back.
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
Really? I like you.
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
When they're really like hopeless, like I know a lot of people who are like in the outside they seem great, right? But they have no hope because they feel trapped. They feel stuck. They don't have the means and they don't think they have the means. They don't think they have the support to kind of get out of their own way until they stay doing something that they don't want to be doing. Yeah.
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
Again, another – you should just write a book of great analogies. Yeah. So this before we even go into anything, like have you always had this gift of wordsmithing and creating these super impactful ways to resonate and impact people?
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
And, you know, it takes somebody who has a lot of self-worth, not self-confidence. Self-confidence is very different than self-worth. You can have self-confidence and be confident in one thing, but have really bad self-worth. Yeah, yeah. Let your life just kind of flail. So I think that to me is, you know, I don't know.
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
When people feel hopeless, I think that's when people really kind of go down a bad place. Yeah. So how do you inspire people to feel like, A, that it's not over till it's over, that they're not alone, that this is just chapter five in a chapter book that's 30 chapters. Yeah. Like all the things that you've done.
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
Wow.
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
Yeah.
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
No.
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
Thank you.
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
It doesn't necessarily translate when I'm on stage because I get nervous because I don't feel like I'm good at it. And I think a lot of people. A lot. But the people who are really good at it, they're actually like the most disingenuous. They're not real. They're not even good at it, but they became. Master marketers. Master marketers.
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
Or they have a great speech person who gave them a great speech and they just practice it.
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
I had no idea you even did this.
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
Okay, give me another example. Absolutely. Yeah, this is great.
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
Okay.
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
To be the best version of myself. I don't apologize. I don't apologize. For one thing that's happened in my life. For one thing that's happened in my life.
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
Because it makes me who I am today. And I. And I. Like. Like. Her. Her. It sounds weird when I do it. I had this woman on my show the other day, which is completely, you know what I'm talking, so coincidental. She's like the top voice coach in the world, right? She works with like the Shakiras of the world, right? And everybody.
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
And she walked me through, which is so weird, how your voice is like an instrument for like power and authority. And she was doing all these things about like, what? and then louder and all the... You're kind of saying similar things. And I have no idea. And you have no idea about that. But like... But yes. Doesn't it come across, if I do it, disingenuous?
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
I see what you're saying.
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
Yeah.
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
Okay, so give me an example of when you've done that. Because I mean, I've seen so many of your videos, right?
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
Well, you just said something at the beginning, which I was like, I want to talk about this on the podcast, that you came from really humble beginnings.
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
Yeah, that's what I told you.
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
That was the one I said to you. Ain't none of your business. But I don't have, forget about me. People like don't have that flair, right? Like this is what makes you you, right? You're right. But you gave the story, like this is a couple things. You know how to pull stories. Like again, when you ask me and you can ask a million other people, they won't even know stories.
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
Like they've had a lot of life experiences, but they don't even know how to like extract them from themselves.
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
I have an example for you. There you go. This is more like a meeting. But what I was going to say, this is interesting. I did a TED Talk a few years back that went viral. And it was based on this story that was very, I think it was compelling to everyone because people can, basically it was about the fact that when I was a kid, I got somebody, I got Keanu Reeves to help me make a demo tape.
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
I mean, and that's like being polite. That's putting it nice. Yeah.
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
for a job and nobody thought I can do it. And everyone laughed at me. And then I met him somewhere completely, just completely miraculously. I asked him and he ended up saying yes. And they came to my house and my mom made him like cookies and lunch. And then I like basically had a camcorder and he allowed me to interview him for an hour so I can be a VJ on MTV, basically.
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
Because I thought nobody would look at me unless I had a big celebrity, right? And I told all my friends and they all laughed at me and then he ended up doing it for me. And so I talked about in my first TED Talk the power of being bold. Because my word is being bold. Like, chase what you want, don't take what you get. Like, chase, chase, chase. Don't just sit back and... acquiesce to good enough.
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
And I think it did very well because A, I think everybody feels that they acquiesce to whatever's in front of them and what's good enough. So it connected to people. And because it was such a like real story that people thought it was like cute that this like kid who's 17 did all this stuff to get to Keanu Reeves and it actually worked, right?
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
And the idea of like being bold and not letting your self-doubt, right? Anyway, why I'm bringing the story up is it had a lot of these elements that you're talking about, right? Yeah, unconscious competence. And so people liked it. Yeah. But it's hard to recreate. So like the reason why I pulled that story because it's like such a memorable thing that happened. Yeah.
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
it changed the entire trajectory of my life, right? Like I never let anybody ever tell me I can't do it because why would I listen to anybody? So the reason why I loved your perception story is because it resonated. So what I was going to ask you is, is how important is the content? How important is the content?
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
Because I think what makes anything good, regardless of all these other things, is if people can see themselves in the story. Yeah. And then give them hope. Hope. Because hope is such a big thing, in my opinion, too, that they, too... can do this. They too can live that life.
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
Right. That's so important.
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
But do you do one-on-ones or do you do groups only?
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
You do one-on-ones too?
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
Right. They're not just like, they're, so like, how did you make all your money though? Like you weren't doing this before. This is a new thing that you're doing. Oh, no, no. You weren't teaching up until when? Now? Now?
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
Well, that's what I'm saying.
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
You weren't teaching how to speak.
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
This was like, this is your new thing.
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
And that, honestly, is because I didn't even... Because I'm a business person, right? When I see this, I'm like, this is something, this is actually a business. And then I found out that you're doing it. Yeah.
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
Yeah.
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
Right. Oprah's a big one. I mean, forget about the other ones.
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
Totally.
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
This is so interesting to me in a real way. I think this is the most, like, because that's how everyone knows you. I mean, that's why you were, like, until you just said that, I forgot about the chicken soup. Secret. And the secret, I mean, you did the two biggest. And Oprah. So, like, you are literally, like, in a box.
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
Like, you are, like, the personal development woman because there's not many others, honestly, you know.
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
How do you even pivot because people want to keep you in that box?
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
I saw him. I know. Right.
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
Yeah, or it makes me so nervous that it's like, there's a truth in the fact that like, it's a bigger fear than like dying, right? Yeah, it is. Than getting up there.
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
Well, it's 100% true and the anxiety that it just puts on. But when you made your money in transformational coaching, what were you teaching people then? How to overcome self-doubt?
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
Yeah.
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
Oh, wow.
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
Wait, what did your husband go to jail for? My husband, not my husband. Or your son's father.
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
Well, then how did you do it? Like, would someone help you kind of, like, create it?
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
Yeah, do you do a lot of speaking engagements? Like, do you get hired by companies a lot now? Like, what's your revenue streams now?
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
Well, that's why I'm asking you these questions.
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
Who's the other one?
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
Oh, I don't know that.
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
Oh, okay.
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
Oh, okay. Well, she told me to come to this thing in Mexico. I won't be able to, unfortunately. But when you kept on bringing it, you brought it up a couple times. I'm like, oh, I wonder if it's the same thing.
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
Yeah.
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
Right.
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
Okay, so what do you talk about, though? Because these are all the greatest techniques. This is great techniques. I love all of it. I'm so interested in what you're saying.
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
But when you go speak in Dubai, what are you speaking about now? Like what's captivating people? Do you have a few different keynotes that you just kind of play with? Do you just go up there like you said? I never do the same. That's what I was going to say because you said earlier in Toronto you didn't. I'm from Toronto, by the way.
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
That is where I am literally from.
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
That is unbelievable.
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
Anyway, keep going. No, that's crazy. You're my sister from another mister. That's crazy.
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
Nobody even knows what Winnipeg is. I do. I moved to Toronto when I was like 21, no, 18 or 19.
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
Nobody even knows where that is.
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
Did you hear that? That is hilarious.
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
Well, what's not to love, by the way? You know. But you said that you, okay, but I don't even know what I was going to, what was I going to say about, oh yeah, when you do, so you just go up there when people, and you just talk.
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
Give me an example.
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
Thank you.
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
Thank you.
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
Thank you.
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
Thank you.
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
Thank you. Thank you. I think that's exactly the problem with social media these days, right? Because I think you have a lot of people who can flowerly speak about all these possibilities. And say nothing. But there's zero, it's very vapid. Because everybody needs to know, like I said to you, it's like, I get that you were down and out. And I get now that you're a multimillionaire.
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
What's the first three steps to even start? And then what's after that? Like there's tranches and there's levels. And people don't have a blueprint. Then what? Right?
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
Yeah.
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
I also think that the actual meet is boring, right? Like what you have to actually do, it's the daily habits that are exceptionally boring that you have to do at nauseam over and over and over and over again before you move on and get good at them.
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
Right. You need to, and I love that line.
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
And speaking of which, also, side note, you said you lost 100 pounds. How did you do it?
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
Oh, okay.
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
Yeah, I was going to say, like, I have a whole list. Will you invite me back?
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
Wow.
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
Oh, yeah. I was not expecting that.
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
Will you come back soon?
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
That was last year you did this, the show?
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
Wow.
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
Okay, I'm not even going to ask you another question. Yeah, don't even.
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
Okay, fine.
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
I do have a passport.
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
I will go.
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
I would totally go. I know.
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
Absolutely. You just tell me when and where and I will be there. I'm like, okay, I know that you've got to leave because I know that you have a car and all the other things. And what time is it? It's probably like.
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
I love it.
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
Oh, my God. She's so cute. I love you. Because you know what I love about you? You have such a nice way about you. And I love the way you described. I just think because you're authentic and real, number one. But you actually give people and you gave this episode. tangible things that people could integrate.
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
What my biggest pet peeve is when people leave everything and they're very verbose and they talk in platitudes and then people get nothing. They get zero to extract from and they can apply to their own life. And then I leave like very kind of unfulfilled and then I have to be polite and nice because what else am I going to do?
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
So thank you. No, thank you. Because I don't do well in, I don't suffer fools well. I don't like to sit with people who are very like here and very like, there's no- Snorkeling. Snorkeling. You want to scuba dive. I want to, I like to get right in there. I felt it. And get shit, like get in there. I cannot stand the surface, like la-li-li-li-li. And then like leave very, just very unfulfilling.
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
So you delivered, lady, with your green hat and your leather pants and all of it. So thank you.
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
Okay, I like them.
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
That's such a good one. Don't stop yet. See, this is what I'm saying. Like, you're the best. Like, this is what I mean, though. This is your gift. Like, your storytelling is a gift because that can happen to lots of people. But they don't have the ability to, like, you're a great orator. Thank you. So you must have had, let's go back to all those years ago.
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
No, no, no. I think that's a good point.
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
I think most people are breadcrumbers. That's the thing. And I think that you need breadcrumbs to see a path or else... You know, there's no path. Yeah. But, okay, Lisa, go check her out. Check out, she has this program. Check her out on Instagram. She's going to come back for part two. You promise, Lisa.
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
I'm going to put it in the show notes. You'll do it. I don't know what it is. Yeah, we'll put it in the show notes.
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
Thank you for having the conversation with me. Absolutely. You're yummy. Yeah, you are too. And so is your husband. Bye.
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
What was the first step into being like, okay, I'm not going to play, I'm not going to be a victim. I'm not going to allow my past to dictate my present or my future. Did you have like an inkling or did you know that you had a talent in this where you like went in? Yeah. Give me the evolution of how you became. You obviously went from here, A to Z. What was A to B?
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
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Episode 427: Lisa Nichols: The Art and Science of Impactful Communication + Audience Connection Techniques
So today on the podcast, we have the incredible Lisa Nichols. You guys, I am not kidding you. This woman, when she speaks, it is next level. You really are. Thank you. The word motivational speaker is such an overused, stupid hashtag. Thank you. It's horrible. Thank you. I hate using it. I hate saying it. I hate these like trendy hashtaggy words. Right.
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Episode 409: Sarah Jane Ho: Mastering Etiquette for Dating and the 20-40-2 Rule for Better Conversations
Cause I think that is, people don't sometimes remember that to be true.
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Episode 409: Sarah Jane Ho: Mastering Etiquette for Dating and the 20-40-2 Rule for Better Conversations
Well, the way I see it is that that would be like the eight positive encounters or positive things. Like you have to work, like you said, like extra, extra hard to kind of compensate. for those things. Absolutely. Right. But I always, I always think about that. Like if I'm leaving a party or a meeting, yes.
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Episode 409: Sarah Jane Ho: Mastering Etiquette for Dating and the 20-40-2 Rule for Better Conversations
Like you, you may like the first impression, of course, that's people have like a, they, they automatically like have a thought of who you are, but if you leave strong, I think that's more important because, and eye contact to me, um, Yeah. And besides how many young people these days I contact, it's an issue.
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Episode 409: Sarah Jane Ho: Mastering Etiquette for Dating and the 20-40-2 Rule for Better Conversations
Well, how can you even teach etiquette and manners to a generation when they're not even socializing anymore? They're always on their phone. Everything is technology driven. They've lost even the baseline. of socialization or interaction. So how could you teach people better etiquette? Do you shift and pivot to then app etiquette? How do you correspond? How do you socialize online?
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Episode 409: Sarah Jane Ho: Mastering Etiquette for Dating and the 20-40-2 Rule for Better Conversations
There's only been season one, but she is a renowned etiquette expert. I can't wait to ask you my questions. And we are going to get really into all this stuff. Sarah Sanku, thank you so much for being on this podcast. Thank you for having me. I love talking about habits and hustle. Well, I'm glad because we're going to be talking all about habits and hustle, but how to do it properly.
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Episode 409: Sarah Jane Ho: Mastering Etiquette for Dating and the 20-40-2 Rule for Better Conversations
Are you learning those things to then help the new generation because of where we are in the world? Well, I think all of us at all generations are learning those things.
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Episode 409: Sarah Jane Ho: Mastering Etiquette for Dating and the 20-40-2 Rule for Better Conversations
You're right. So then, right. Cause people were like, well, hiding behind screens, hiding behind screens, or like they can talk on a zoom for a very finite period of time, even dating though. Like let's just talk about the relationship aspect, you know, like now that's how people are meeting people is through online apps. So you talk, you have a whole, you have a whole area in the book about this.
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Episode 409: Sarah Jane Ho: Mastering Etiquette for Dating and the 20-40-2 Rule for Better Conversations
Can you just give us some proper etiquette for dating one-on-one in etiquette? Because there's so many crazy things that are happening with, how people are communicating, what, what should they say? How much should they, how much should they say? You know, like, are you supposed to wait three days before you sleep with somebody? Are you supposed to do this? I like, there's so much noise.
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Episode 409: Sarah Jane Ho: Mastering Etiquette for Dating and the 20-40-2 Rule for Better Conversations
Can you just break it down to the top five things that people should do well or do do when they're dating online?
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Episode 409: Sarah Jane Ho: Mastering Etiquette for Dating and the 20-40-2 Rule for Better Conversations
I totally, listen, I, I, I judge. I think that like people are just jumping into bed with any, but that's, that's because that's over taken over like relationships. Now people are not even having relationships. They're like hooking up. They're having situations, situationships.
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Episode 409: Sarah Jane Ho: Mastering Etiquette for Dating and the 20-40-2 Rule for Better Conversations
I mean, I got to tell you, I'm actually kind of nervous to have you on. I told you that when you walked in because... I don't know. I think maybe I need, like, I need to hire you because there's a couple areas of my life that probably I'm not the most groomed and well, my etiquette may be a little bit lacking. So this could be a long way to find out.
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Episode 409: Sarah Jane Ho: Mastering Etiquette for Dating and the 20-40-2 Rule for Better Conversations
Like to me, like we're, we're, we've lost the ability, like I said, to like truly connect with people because we're just, everything's becoming very transactional. And I do find this to be like a big problem, but continue.
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Episode 409: Sarah Jane Ho: Mastering Etiquette for Dating and the 20-40-2 Rule for Better Conversations
Yeah, I agree with that, of course. But there's been a lot of backlash now within mental health. I was just reading this article about... People are now relying on therapy so much where then you're just focusing only on your problems.
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Episode 409: Sarah Jane Ho: Mastering Etiquette for Dating and the 20-40-2 Rule for Better Conversations
Have you seen any of this research where it makes people – it's actually increasing the level of anxiety and depression because you're basically – you're constantly giving – This is not about the etiquette. This is just an article I found really interesting.
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Episode 409: Sarah Jane Ho: Mastering Etiquette for Dating and the 20-40-2 Rule for Better Conversations
You're kind of just giving so much focus and attention to all the problems you have and labeling your problems as opposed to how it used to be even like 40, 30 years ago when I was a kid, right? And that's part of the reason why the mental health crisis has been...
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Episode 409: Sarah Jane Ho: Mastering Etiquette for Dating and the 20-40-2 Rule for Better Conversations
kind of getting higher and higher besides, of course, the comparison and social media and all of the other stuff and the inability to socialize. But also then we're becoming very self-absorbed and coddled where then we just become, we're just focusing on ourselves 24 hours a day. And it's actually becoming, it's the pendulum has swung too far.
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Episode 409: Sarah Jane Ho: Mastering Etiquette for Dating and the 20-40-2 Rule for Better Conversations
You know, it's interesting that you just said that, and I'm going to now segue it back to your book, not even on purpose, but because that's what I noticed when I was reading it. You said a couple of things that were contrary to what I would think that you would have said. Like what? I love being contrarian. No, no, no. I was, cause you know, the whole like breaking up on text message works.
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Episode 409: Sarah Jane Ho: Mastering Etiquette for Dating and the 20-40-2 Rule for Better Conversations
That was one just easy example just to pull from because everyone's like, how it's not, it's not appropriate. How dare you? You're so rude. And so I, when I was bringing this whole area about the dating and the relationships, and then you talked about actually breaking up with your boyfriend on a text message and how it's totally fine. And people should not be like saying that's bad etiquette.
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Episode 409: Sarah Jane Ho: Mastering Etiquette for Dating and the 20-40-2 Rule for Better Conversations
Well, first question I have is give me your background. What makes you an expert in etiquette? Because do you go to school for that? I know that you created a school for it, but how do you, how do we know, like, why is it what you say is the, is the right way?
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Episode 409: Sarah Jane Ho: Mastering Etiquette for Dating and the 20-40-2 Rule for Better Conversations
I was really impressed because of the reason behind it, right? So I agree with you. I think that not everything has to be this way or that way because it fits into a nice box. So I love that. Can you just tell the story, actually? I love it.
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Episode 409: Sarah Jane Ho: Mastering Etiquette for Dating and the 20-40-2 Rule for Better Conversations
Right, right, right. Well, actually, listen, I think it works because I think life is contextual, right? Everything in life is contextual. And if you are an...
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Episode 409: Sarah Jane Ho: Mastering Etiquette for Dating and the 20-40-2 Rule for Better Conversations
Good.
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Episode 409: Sarah Jane Ho: Mastering Etiquette for Dating and the 20-40-2 Rule for Better Conversations
And then he went out. And like, is he also similar to you? Or... He doesn't speak a word of English. Are you serious? So I, you know... Oh, right.
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Episode 409: Sarah Jane Ho: Mastering Etiquette for Dating and the 20-40-2 Rule for Better Conversations
Yeah.
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Episode 409: Sarah Jane Ho: Mastering Etiquette for Dating and the 20-40-2 Rule for Better Conversations
Are you serious? Isn't that the most difficult language to learn? Yeah.
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Episode 409: Sarah Jane Ho: Mastering Etiquette for Dating and the 20-40-2 Rule for Better Conversations
He does real estate. This is what's interesting. First of all, I didn't ask you yet because I guess I was nervous at the beginning. Not because of you, but because I'm just trying to mirror how you're sitting and all these little things. How did you even get the Netflix show? Oh yeah. Let's start with that. Cause like, how did that even, like, how did they even know of you?
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Episode 409: Sarah Jane Ho: Mastering Etiquette for Dating and the 20-40-2 Rule for Better Conversations
I mean, you said there's a lot of like charm schools in the U S I don't know how many right now, but back then it was a thing.
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Episode 409: Sarah Jane Ho: Mastering Etiquette for Dating and the 20-40-2 Rule for Better Conversations
It was 2020? Well, yeah, it was before COVID.
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Episode 409: Sarah Jane Ho: Mastering Etiquette for Dating and the 20-40-2 Rule for Better Conversations
So then your partner, she didn't want to do the show with you or does she in the show or what's the... No, she's not on the show.
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Episode 409: Sarah Jane Ho: Mastering Etiquette for Dating and the 20-40-2 Rule for Better Conversations
It was very strict.
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Episode 409: Sarah Jane Ho: Mastering Etiquette for Dating and the 20-40-2 Rule for Better Conversations
I remember. Do you remember that whole thing? They were pissed. Novak, uh, with the tennis player.
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Episode 409: Sarah Jane Ho: Mastering Etiquette for Dating and the 20-40-2 Rule for Better Conversations
Djokovic. But then, okay. So before you got the Netflix show and I know you already had, you already had the finishing schools. Were you around doing expert? Like, were you doing, you weren't an etiquette expert on like TV shows or doing anything in China, but not anywhere else.
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Episode 409: Sarah Jane Ho: Mastering Etiquette for Dating and the 20-40-2 Rule for Better Conversations
Can you get, okay, so if you say, because you just said Table Manners, like give me a few top, besides like- Do's and don'ts? Like, yeah, do's and don'ts. But not so obvious ones, like I know put the napkin on your lap, the way you say like double the napkin. And give me some other ones that aren't so obvious that people do regularly that we should maybe-
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Episode 409: Sarah Jane Ho: Mastering Etiquette for Dating and the 20-40-2 Rule for Better Conversations
If your plate is round, it should be like this. Right. Cause that was the one thing I was going to say at the beginning. She would get so mad at me because where, where I place my cutlery after I eat is
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Episode 409: Sarah Jane Ho: Mastering Etiquette for Dating and the 20-40-2 Rule for Better Conversations
I don't remember how, but she screamed at me over it. How are you supposed to put your cutlery after you eat?
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Episode 409: Sarah Jane Ho: Mastering Etiquette for Dating and the 20-40-2 Rule for Better Conversations
And they can be in a six o'clock. Okay, that sounds okay. I think that's what she said. Okay, give me a few other ones.
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Episode 409: Sarah Jane Ho: Mastering Etiquette for Dating and the 20-40-2 Rule for Better Conversations
That's a good one. I like that one. That's a good one. Oh, another one you said, which I didn't realize, because I think people do this all the time. When you are having a dinner, you're sitting at a table. People always assume that the host should get the best seat, but it's actually the guest that should get the best seat.
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Episode 409: Sarah Jane Ho: Mastering Etiquette for Dating and the 20-40-2 Rule for Better Conversations
I love that. Okay. So I didn't even get to any of my questions, but even like how you position your feet, right? I saw something that if your feet are in a V position, does that make, you're closed, you're open. What does this mean?
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Episode 409: Sarah Jane Ho: Mastering Etiquette for Dating and the 20-40-2 Rule for Better Conversations
Is there any, give me some other ones that people don't know in terms of body language. We all know this one and this. Give us some other ones that maybe are not so obvious.
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Episode 409: Sarah Jane Ho: Mastering Etiquette for Dating and the 20-40-2 Rule for Better Conversations
What do you think of a fist pump? Because I feel like now people are not... With COVID. With COVID, they're not shaking their hands. They're doing the fist pump.
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Episode 409: Sarah Jane Ho: Mastering Etiquette for Dating and the 20-40-2 Rule for Better Conversations
So what are some things that have shifted and changed since you were young? What are some things that are very current etiquette-wise since after COVID that were not part of the etiquette system or protocol before.
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Episode 409: Sarah Jane Ho: Mastering Etiquette for Dating and the 20-40-2 Rule for Better Conversations
Right.
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Episode 409: Sarah Jane Ho: Mastering Etiquette for Dating and the 20-40-2 Rule for Better Conversations
Well, I thought, though, people in Asia were wearing masks for many, many years because they didn't want to get sick. I thought that was kind of smart.
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Episode 409: Sarah Jane Ho: Mastering Etiquette for Dating and the 20-40-2 Rule for Better Conversations
Do you wear a mask? No.
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Episode 409: Sarah Jane Ho: Mastering Etiquette for Dating and the 20-40-2 Rule for Better Conversations
Yeah, that makes sense. So in terms of like etiquette for, you know, post COVID 2024 now, give us some other ones besides the fist pump or, you know, is there anything you can think of?
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Episode 409: Sarah Jane Ho: Mastering Etiquette for Dating and the 20-40-2 Rule for Better Conversations
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Episode 409: Sarah Jane Ho: Mastering Etiquette for Dating and the 20-40-2 Rule for Better Conversations
This is what I wanted to ask you because I'm a very curious person, right? Just by nature, not because I mean, the podcast is just an evolution of a natural thing for me to do. Considering I ask a ton of questions on a good day without a microphone. What is your opinion? In your opinion, what is the difference between being curious and being intrusive?
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Episode 409: Sarah Jane Ho: Mastering Etiquette for Dating and the 20-40-2 Rule for Better Conversations
They care. In the West, if they said that, my God, they would be like slitting their throat. Exactly.
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Episode 409: Sarah Jane Ho: Mastering Etiquette for Dating and the 20-40-2 Rule for Better Conversations
See, the way I look at it is that you can get away with anything. It's not what you say, it's how you say it.
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Episode 409: Sarah Jane Ho: Mastering Etiquette for Dating and the 20-40-2 Rule for Better Conversations
See, that's exactly it. So when I was teasing about this whole I'm bad at etiquette, it was really what I was really referring to or like the table matters because my friend always bothers me.
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Episode 409: Sarah Jane Ho: Mastering Etiquette for Dating and the 20-40-2 Rule for Better Conversations
about it because of those things or like the way, or just in terms of being very ladylike, like just even looking at you, you know, like I know you're going to say, well, I'm not, then you're not doing a good job, but I just think, is there some part of it? Like you, like, I feel like I'm a bull in a China shop. That's just my personality. I'm like, I'm more, I'm like louder. I'm more aggressive.
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Episode 409: Sarah Jane Ho: Mastering Etiquette for Dating and the 20-40-2 Rule for Better Conversations
I'm more like, I'm more like, I'm, I'm, you know what I mean? I'm more of a, it's, it's also cultural, right? I mean, Americans are kind of known, you know, I'm not Americans. I'm Canadian by the way.
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Episode 409: Sarah Jane Ho: Mastering Etiquette for Dating and the 20-40-2 Rule for Better Conversations
Americans for sure. But also it's personal personality driven and you're right. Like American Canadian. That's what I was saying. Like it would be really hard. Like I feel awkward because when I'm too formal. I don't even know how to wear high heels properly without looking like a jerk off because I'm not walking properly. You know what I mean? Because I don't feel myself.
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Episode 409: Sarah Jane Ho: Mastering Etiquette for Dating and the 20-40-2 Rule for Better Conversations
Or you're a really good chameleon because you've learned to adapt because of your background and your training on etiquette. You know how to walk in and adjust.
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Episode 409: Sarah Jane Ho: Mastering Etiquette for Dating and the 20-40-2 Rule for Better Conversations
Yes.
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Episode 409: Sarah Jane Ho: Mastering Etiquette for Dating and the 20-40-2 Rule for Better Conversations
Absolutely. But I do notice that my friends from London, they seem so much more pristine and... and cultured because of the way they speak and the way they sound.
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Episode 409: Sarah Jane Ho: Mastering Etiquette for Dating and the 20-40-2 Rule for Better Conversations
And also growing up in Europe, what happens is you get access, like you travel through Europe and you do get more culture that way because you go to Italy, goes to Spain, you go to like London, you learn more about other people's nationalities and cultures, which then helps kind of refine you a little bit better.
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Episode 409: Sarah Jane Ho: Mastering Etiquette for Dating and the 20-40-2 Rule for Better Conversations
Well, you said, hold on a second. I actually was going to tell you the talking cultures versus the listening culture. Yes, yes. So there is a big difference between that, right? I liked it. You said something. This is a great little trick because we were just talking about the art of silence in a conversation. You used to mute the phone when you were at, I guess.
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Episode 409: Sarah Jane Ho: Mastering Etiquette for Dating and the 20-40-2 Rule for Better Conversations
It's so true. And again, these are things that common sense that you just don't realize in the moment until you get reminded. Because when I talk to people, and you can tell if I'm talking to my friend in New York or wherever, and I hear bustling on the streets and
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Episode 409: Sarah Jane Ho: Mastering Etiquette for Dating and the 20-40-2 Rule for Better Conversations
ambulances like i'm i'm annoyed because i can feel that they can't how can they hear hear and listen to me if i can hear all that noise so that is a really good psychological thing to be do trick because then the other person feels like they've been heard and listened to as well exactly and it stops you from interrupting if you're somebody who interrupts a lot right saying that for a friend
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Episode 409: Sarah Jane Ho: Mastering Etiquette for Dating and the 20-40-2 Rule for Better Conversations
So we all have a friend. We're saying that. Well, yeah, you're right. Exactly. So then like, you could, let me ask you, I want to go back a bit. So because before you opened up these finishing schools, you went to Harvard business school, you went like, you're obviously a very business savvy, smart person. What would you have done by the way, if it wasn't for this?
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Episode 409: Sarah Jane Ho: Mastering Etiquette for Dating and the 20-40-2 Rule for Better Conversations
Is there anything, did you, because you went to, you were at Goldman Sachs, you said, right?
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Episode 409: Sarah Jane Ho: Mastering Etiquette for Dating and the 20-40-2 Rule for Better Conversations
Goldman Sachs. Oh, okay. Yeah. Yeah. And then what would you have done? Like, were you going to, were you very entrepreneurial? Cause I know now you have your own line of what do you call it? Uh, yeah. Intimate wellness, intimate wellness. What were you always someone who thought to be an entrepreneur to like start your own schools to do all these things?
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Episode 409: Sarah Jane Ho: Mastering Etiquette for Dating and the 20-40-2 Rule for Better Conversations
Or were you going more of a corporate route? Like what was your plan?
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Episode 409: Sarah Jane Ho: Mastering Etiquette for Dating and the 20-40-2 Rule for Better Conversations
So like, where else can you go with being an etiquette expert? You wrote your first book, you have the show on Netflix. I would think, because this is my business brain, what you would have done would do a line of, you know, tableware stuff. Exactly. That's the obvious play, right?
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Episode 409: Sarah Jane Ho: Mastering Etiquette for Dating and the 20-40-2 Rule for Better Conversations
Oh, wow. Okay.
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Episode 409: Sarah Jane Ho: Mastering Etiquette for Dating and the 20-40-2 Rule for Better Conversations
Wow. So let me ask you, because you were saying something that was interesting. So the U.S. or North America has charm schools. The European version would be considered finishing school. This is actually very different. timely because some very close friends of mine are from, I have actually a lot of friends from London and they are, this one girl, her name's Amanda.
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Episode 409: Sarah Jane Ho: Mastering Etiquette for Dating and the 20-40-2 Rule for Better Conversations
So not like in the US, it's about the gut, the microglia. Yes. Okay. This is different.
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Episode 409: Sarah Jane Ho: Mastering Etiquette for Dating and the 20-40-2 Rule for Better Conversations
You said it helps your traveling.
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Episode 409: Sarah Jane Ho: Mastering Etiquette for Dating and the 20-40-2 Rule for Better Conversations
It's basically a molecule. It's basically your body stops producing it as you age. Is that the longevity thing? Yeah. It's behind you, actually, called trinitin. But that wasn't actually... I've heard of this. I wasn't... Yeah. I've heard of it. I've heard of trinitin. Yeah. It's a fantastic... Basically, it's the precursor, which means that... you take it and it helps your body produces NAD.
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Episode 409: Sarah Jane Ho: Mastering Etiquette for Dating and the 20-40-2 Rule for Better Conversations
But I wasn't bringing it up to promote them even. I was actually bringing it up because there's all this research you're talking about infertility. There's just so many people who've said that when they started to take NAD, like either through an IV or through supplements or whatever, it literally was like the switch that made them be able to. Yeah. That's why when you're saying that.
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Episode 409: Sarah Jane Ho: Mastering Etiquette for Dating and the 20-40-2 Rule for Better Conversations
It's a huge, huge, huge thing.
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Episode 409: Sarah Jane Ho: Mastering Etiquette for Dating and the 20-40-2 Rule for Better Conversations
Yeah. And there's a woman named, she's like called a fertility egg whisperer, a Dr. Amy. I don't remember, but I'm digressing, but yeah. Yeah. So for women out there who are, yeah, NAD, truniogen is like, it's been shown in tons of clinical trials. So yeah. Yeah. Anyway, that wasn't what we're talking about, but I wanted just your take on acupuncture.
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Episode 409: Sarah Jane Ho: Mastering Etiquette for Dating and the 20-40-2 Rule for Better Conversations
What else is acupuncture, in your opinion, really good for?
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Episode 409: Sarah Jane Ho: Mastering Etiquette for Dating and the 20-40-2 Rule for Better Conversations
I'm going to give her a shout out. She is all about etiquette and manners and she has impeccable manners and she always teases me about certain things. And so I find it's a very European thing. I haven't seen that same type of I don't know. Well, you wouldn't in California. Let me just put it this way. You wouldn't in California. Yeah. I mean, look how like it's. So it's very culture.
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Episode 409: Sarah Jane Ho: Mastering Etiquette for Dating and the 20-40-2 Rule for Better Conversations
I could not agree with you more. I'm always about room temperature or hot too. Yeah. There's also Ayurveda. Ayurveda. Also thousands of years of history, just like TCM. Right? Because I'm so on this train with you, I think, because that's so much more for your digestive system. Cold, I feel like it shocks your system. It shocks your system.
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Episode 409: Sarah Jane Ho: Mastering Etiquette for Dating and the 20-40-2 Rule for Better Conversations
when you wake up. So I drink room temperature water with lemon, but maybe I do think it would be even more effective to do hot, hot water. Like that helps your digestive system going. So what I do is I drink, I drink hot tea after my hot, my, my room temperature water. Yeah. That's good too. That's great. What is the difference?
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Episode 409: Sarah Jane Ho: Mastering Etiquette for Dating and the 20-40-2 Rule for Better Conversations
Cause I know that you always talk about the, well, not always, but like the water with the hot water and ginger for digestion. What about mint? Isn't mint supposed to be like hot water with mint leaves? Is that not good for digestion?
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Episode 409: Sarah Jane Ho: Mastering Etiquette for Dating and the 20-40-2 Rule for Better Conversations
So that's why you walk around with the flask of hot water, which I'm going to now start. That's a great one. And so you're taking the skin off the ginger, correct? No, you don't. I'm lazy. You could just put it in like that?
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Episode 409: Sarah Jane Ho: Mastering Etiquette for Dating and the 20-40-2 Rule for Better Conversations
No, I agree with you. The hot water is like the key. The key. The cold. I don't ever understand. People have ice with this. In the winter. Like I just came from New York City. Like, I mean, all this ice water in the winter. I know. I don't understand that. So then, okay, go back. So you and your girlfriend decided that, well, you said everything starts with your ovaries. Right.
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Episode 409: Sarah Jane Ho: Mastering Etiquette for Dating and the 20-40-2 Rule for Better Conversations
And I'm coming back to this.
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Episode 409: Sarah Jane Ho: Mastering Etiquette for Dating and the 20-40-2 Rule for Better Conversations
Right? That's what you asked me when you walked in here about, you're like, oh, when we're talking about traveling. Yeah. About my menstrual cycle. So if, because I'm pretty on time all the time, but like- That's very good. Is it? What does that mean?
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Episode 409: Sarah Jane Ho: Mastering Etiquette for Dating and the 20-40-2 Rule for Better Conversations
Oh, that's good. And so if you're, if you're always irregular, what does that mean? You're unhealthy.
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Episode 409: Sarah Jane Ho: Mastering Etiquette for Dating and the 20-40-2 Rule for Better Conversations
So then, so you're, so that's, I was asking you because of this product too. So then why, what were you?
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Episode 409: Sarah Jane Ho: Mastering Etiquette for Dating and the 20-40-2 Rule for Better Conversations
It's very culture based, isn't it? Like it's not. Well, you tell me. You said something.
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Episode 409: Sarah Jane Ho: Mastering Etiquette for Dating and the 20-40-2 Rule for Better Conversations
And is it out in the marketplace now?
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Episode 409: Sarah Jane Ho: Mastering Etiquette for Dating and the 20-40-2 Rule for Better Conversations
Oh, so you're not selling, you're not brick and mortar yet, you're just... We don't have our own brick and mortar stores yet, no. No, no, no, but you're not selling, where would it be brick and mortar? I guess there's no way to put, I guess is it like Goop or where do people buy it?
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Episode 409: Sarah Jane Ho: Mastering Etiquette for Dating and the 20-40-2 Rule for Better Conversations
Really? Yeah. So how much is this product? What's the price point? Can I see it?
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Episode 409: Sarah Jane Ho: Mastering Etiquette for Dating and the 20-40-2 Rule for Better Conversations
There are some femcare brands. I remember when I was a kid, I would see commercials for Summer's Eve. Do you remember them? Yes.
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Episode 409: Sarah Jane Ho: Mastering Etiquette for Dating and the 20-40-2 Rule for Better Conversations
Oh my God, for sure. I mean, this is what I like. It's like all natural. I mean, listen, it's all natural. Yeah. This is amazing. Not exactly the, I mean, is it proper etiquette to talk about feminine hygiene? Hey, listen.
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Episode 409: Sarah Jane Ho: Mastering Etiquette for Dating and the 20-40-2 Rule for Better Conversations
That's the number one Googled... Body part.
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Episode 409: Sarah Jane Ho: Mastering Etiquette for Dating and the 20-40-2 Rule for Better Conversations
I'm going to ask her. I'm actually going to ask her after this episode. Wow. That's crazy. So is that also part of the, when you did your market research, if this is a viable option, you must have taken that into account.
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Episode 409: Sarah Jane Ho: Mastering Etiquette for Dating and the 20-40-2 Rule for Better Conversations
So right. So now that you said that, you're right. Because again, my friends who are very Southern, their children say Miss Jennifer. It's true. It's very specific to the culture and where you actually live. So then let's say, is it also...
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Episode 409: Sarah Jane Ho: Mastering Etiquette for Dating and the 20-40-2 Rule for Better Conversations
I guess you can't go up into a vagina. Oh my God, I guess you're right. Oh my gosh. This is not where I thought the conversation was going with the manners expert. Okay. Like this was like the antithesis of what I thought we're going to be talking about. Oh my gosh. I love it. Okay. Well, I mean, I have one other area I want to talk to you about. One question.
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Episode 409: Sarah Jane Ho: Mastering Etiquette for Dating and the 20-40-2 Rule for Better Conversations
Well, not really one, but you're big into Feng Shui and I want to know about it. Yes. And because we're talking about vaginas and vulvas, I didn't even ask you about that. Can you talk about that? Yeah. Well, so for example, you know, your office set up here.
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Episode 409: Sarah Jane Ho: Mastering Etiquette for Dating and the 20-40-2 Rule for Better Conversations
Yeah.
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Episode 409: Sarah Jane Ho: Mastering Etiquette for Dating and the 20-40-2 Rule for Better Conversations
Really? Like, will I make more money if I have a wooden table that does not show my legs? Well, you'll have to test it out and let me know. Wow. Okay. Does it count that the two pieces are wood that the glass is on top of? Yeah. This is the most important piece. That's the most important. Okay. Can you give me some other main things about Feng Shui?
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Episode 409: Sarah Jane Ho: Mastering Etiquette for Dating and the 20-40-2 Rule for Better Conversations
Because this room is like a smorgasbord because I was in the middle of designing it and then I stopped. This was a... my husband's moms that they left here and I'm trying to get rid of it, but it's comfortable. So I keep it because I actually like to sit in it, but it's the most ungodly looking thing in the entire world. It's a lazy boy, everybody. They're so ugly, but they're so comfortable.
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Episode 409: Sarah Jane Ho: Mastering Etiquette for Dating and the 20-40-2 Rule for Better Conversations
I guess it's not just a socioeconomic thing because in itself, no matter where you are socioeconomically, your manners and the way you speak to people and how you address people is very different than how you would, like you said, in California or in different cultures. So that is actually quite interesting.
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Episode 409: Sarah Jane Ho: Mastering Etiquette for Dating and the 20-40-2 Rule for Better Conversations
Yeah. I never watch it, but what do you mean?
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Episode 409: Sarah Jane Ho: Mastering Etiquette for Dating and the 20-40-2 Rule for Better Conversations
So what is, but can you explain what that means in like my term? Okay. Yes. Yes. Yes. So, so I have a TV, but I'm not really using it. So what does it do when I'm in here? Oh, if you're not using it? Um, well, I mean, yeah, I use it when I'm in my sauna, like in my little portable sauna, I'll sit back here and watch TV.
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Episode 409: Sarah Jane Ho: Mastering Etiquette for Dating and the 20-40-2 Rule for Better Conversations
And okay. And that, but I guess my question about Feng Shui is what is Feng Shui in the real term? Like, how does it matter in your life? Like other than just aesthetics. Okay. Yes. Okay. So that doesn't, I hate the couch. I don't like this, this glass maybe should be wood because it represents more money, but in the grand scheme, what is the purpose of it?
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Episode 409: Sarah Jane Ho: Mastering Etiquette for Dating and the 20-40-2 Rule for Better Conversations
That is interesting. I felt like also it gives a room a certain feel. Like you walk into a room and feel if it's a good feeling, a bad feeling.
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Episode 409: Sarah Jane Ho: Mastering Etiquette for Dating and the 20-40-2 Rule for Better Conversations
Yeah, yeah.
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Episode 409: Sarah Jane Ho: Mastering Etiquette for Dating and the 20-40-2 Rule for Better Conversations
You didn't notice the ugly couch behind you?
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Episode 409: Sarah Jane Ho: Mastering Etiquette for Dating and the 20-40-2 Rule for Better Conversations
It does? Okay, well, that's good. I mean... Feng shui isn't about, like, the aesthetics.
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Episode 409: Sarah Jane Ho: Mastering Etiquette for Dating and the 20-40-2 Rule for Better Conversations
I can give you three key rules of feng shui. Sure, do that and we'll wrap it up because God knows it's been forever for you.
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Episode 409: Sarah Jane Ho: Mastering Etiquette for Dating and the 20-40-2 Rule for Better Conversations
That's yeah. That's not, no, no, no. I agree with that. That's okay. Okay. I have all these other questions, but maybe you can just come back because I have so many things I didn't ask you like practicing non-sexual flirting.
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Episode 409: Sarah Jane Ho: Mastering Etiquette for Dating and the 20-40-2 Rule for Better Conversations
No, no. I have another podcast. Yeah. I have a podcast too. That's what I think. By the way, I have like another person coming. So that's, I feel like we got sidetracked. It's been so fun. Yeah. It's been really fun. I wanted to talk to you about, let me just pick one more thing. Yeah. I know we didn't talk about, but I said it to you before. I love the 22nd rule or the 42nd rule.
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Episode 409: Sarah Jane Ho: Mastering Etiquette for Dating and the 20-40-2 Rule for Better Conversations
Please talk about that. Yeah. Because I think this can be a game changer for a lot of people. No, I'm serious. Do you have some... People you want to name and shame? Yeah. I feel bad shaming them because sometimes you just are just completely oblivious. It's usually men, by the way.
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Episode 409: Sarah Jane Ho: Mastering Etiquette for Dating and the 20-40-2 Rule for Better Conversations
A lot of men are very oblivious to this, but I think it can save a lot of relationships and just overall communication if people listen to this. This is a really great one, guys. Listen to this.
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Episode 409: Sarah Jane Ho: Mastering Etiquette for Dating and the 20-40-2 Rule for Better Conversations
Right. And so what did you, what do you learn there? Give me an example of what were you, what would, what did they teach you? How was the day? Give me a day in the life of what you do.
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Episode 409: Sarah Jane Ho: Mastering Etiquette for Dating and the 20-40-2 Rule for Better Conversations
I'm not talking about if you're up on the podium giving a speech or if you're telling a story, which requires... No, but I think a lot of times people drone on and on about these stories and they have no awareness that it's boring for people.
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Episode 409: Sarah Jane Ho: Mastering Etiquette for Dating and the 20-40-2 Rule for Better Conversations
So then I guess my question is when do you know, like, yeah, if you're doing it, if you're on a podium giving a speech, of course you're going to be longer than 20 seconds or 40 seconds. But when you are just in a conversation at dinner or a dinner party, are you allowed to go past 20 seconds? If someone asks you a question, 20 seconds is really short.
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Episode 409: Sarah Jane Ho: Mastering Etiquette for Dating and the 20-40-2 Rule for Better Conversations
What I love about the 22nd or 40 second rule when speaking to somebody is more than just it being 20 seconds on the dot or 40 seconds on the dot. It makes you think and be kind of, you're being conscientious of how long you're talking about yourself. That to me is the importance of it.
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Episode 409: Sarah Jane Ho: Mastering Etiquette for Dating and the 20-40-2 Rule for Better Conversations
Versus just like, you know, droning on and on and on without any idea that there should be like a beginning and start, you know, beginning, middle and end time that should be concise. Because otherwise people will just go on and on and it can be three minutes and you're sitting there and you're like, holy crap. shit, this person is just talking forever. So just be mindful.
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Episode 409: Sarah Jane Ho: Mastering Etiquette for Dating and the 20-40-2 Rule for Better Conversations
I think it just makes you be mindful. Yes, it's true.
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Episode 409: Sarah Jane Ho: Mastering Etiquette for Dating and the 20-40-2 Rule for Better Conversations
I love that. So that is exactly it. So your manners with a touch of Machiavelli, because I agree with you. I don't think it's rude. What I think is actually you're being very conscientious of the other person's feelings. You don't want to be rude and just walk away with not giving them another person to talk to.
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Episode 409: Sarah Jane Ho: Mastering Etiquette for Dating and the 20-40-2 Rule for Better Conversations
You're actually finding a replacement so you can get the hell out of there, which is what I do on a regular basis. And I've mastered this. By the way, now after talking to you, I think I should be writing a manners book. Do it. I think a lot of this is just like,
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Episode 409: Sarah Jane Ho: Mastering Etiquette for Dating and the 20-40-2 Rule for Better Conversations
having a lot of like social experience and putting it in a book and telling somebody, you know, these are like some rules that you should abide by and it will make your life a lot easier to kind of navigate really. But, but you do it much better and you do it in a much more eloquent way than I would ever be able to. And I, like I said, I love the book. Guys, the book is called Mind Your Manners.
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Episode 409: Sarah Jane Ho: Mastering Etiquette for Dating and the 20-40-2 Rule for Better Conversations
I'm going to let her get out of here. She's The subtitle, we get the subtitle, How to Be Your Best Self in Any Situation. How to Be Your Best Self in Any Situation by Sarah Jane Ho. She's the same lady that has the Netflix show by the same name, Mind Your Manners. And like I said, you guys can just peruse the book in one section, put it down. You've got dating in there. You have table manners.
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Episode 409: Sarah Jane Ho: Mastering Etiquette for Dating and the 20-40-2 Rule for Better Conversations
You have work situations. How to properly respond to an email on time. By the way, what's an appropriate amount of time to respond to an email? Oh, to respond to an email?
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Episode 409: Sarah Jane Ho: Mastering Etiquette for Dating and the 20-40-2 Rule for Better Conversations
Yeah, I still even think that's a lot. But anyway, Sarah, where can people find more of you? Are you on social media?
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Episode 409: Sarah Jane Ho: Mastering Etiquette for Dating and the 20-40-2 Rule for Better Conversations
And yeah, check out my Netflix show. And watch the Netflix show, guys. I watched a couple episodes. It was cute. You're very good on it. You really are. Thank you so much for being on the show. And good luck with the book. Thank you. And thank you for having me. And good luck with your intimate care female product.
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Episode 409: Sarah Jane Ho: Mastering Etiquette for Dating and the 20-40-2 Rule for Better Conversations
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Episode 409: Sarah Jane Ho: Mastering Etiquette for Dating and the 20-40-2 Rule for Better Conversations
And I will definitely. I'll try it and post it. Great. Thank you. Thank you. Bye, everybody. Bye.
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Episode 409: Sarah Jane Ho: Mastering Etiquette for Dating and the 20-40-2 Rule for Better Conversations
Do they teach you in finishing school context like that? So they'll say like in the West, this is what happens. In Asia, this is what happens. Do they break it down?
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Episode 409: Sarah Jane Ho: Mastering Etiquette for Dating and the 20-40-2 Rule for Better Conversations
But does it ever, do people ever get like, I kind of joked around, like I got nervous when I have, I am nervous because even the way you're sitting and the way you're so, you're so polite and you know, you, you kind of know your P's and Q's. It makes the other person feel more uncomfortable. Does anyone ever get uncomfortable with you? If you're nervous around me, then I'm doing something wrong.
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Episode 409: Sarah Jane Ho: Mastering Etiquette for Dating and the 20-40-2 Rule for Better Conversations
Oh, I'm not nervous around you actually. That's what's funny though. You're not making me nervous. It's just the fact that you have that title in front of your name.
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Episode 409: Sarah Jane Ho: Mastering Etiquette for Dating and the 20-40-2 Rule for Better Conversations
Because it's funny because when you think about it, the people who are the most, the best manners, the most highly... I guess they seem, they come across conservative or much more stuffy than the average person, right? Like, so there has to be a good balance of understanding human nature and like EQ, like having a good EQ to know how to make the other person feel comfortable.
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Episode 409: Sarah Jane Ho: Mastering Etiquette for Dating and the 20-40-2 Rule for Better Conversations
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Episode 409: Sarah Jane Ho: Mastering Etiquette for Dating and the 20-40-2 Rule for Better Conversations
I totally agree. I think one of the ugliest things is when a child has bad manners and table manners and Like I always notice those things as I joke around about myself. I try to be much, I'm very cognizant of those things for my own children because it does, it doesn't present well about, it says a lot about the person and then the individual, but sometimes don't you have to start young?
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Episode 409: Sarah Jane Ho: Mastering Etiquette for Dating and the 20-40-2 Rule for Better Conversations
Because if you're starting at, you're saying you're starting with people, young adults, so then they can teach their children. Right. Actually I'd start with mothers.
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Episode 409: Sarah Jane Ho: Mastering Etiquette for Dating and the 20-40-2 Rule for Better Conversations
Yeah.
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Episode 409: Sarah Jane Ho: Mastering Etiquette for Dating and the 20-40-2 Rule for Better Conversations
So tell me, I'm so curious about this. Okay. So it's still happening. You still have this finishing school in China. Yes. Okay. How many people are enrolled? Like how long is the course? Is it a year? Do they live there? Yeah.
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Episode 409: Sarah Jane Ho: Mastering Etiquette for Dating and the 20-40-2 Rule for Better Conversations
I love this. So you teach like, would you do like how to set a table? Absolutely. We do.
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Episode 409: Sarah Jane Ho: Mastering Etiquette for Dating and the 20-40-2 Rule for Better Conversations
Yes, I agree with you. And I know that to be true. What I actually love about how you present or how you even in your book, it's kind of like to me like a coffee table book. where you don't have to read it all at once. It's an easy read. And there's so many great tips. There's a dating section. There's a table manners. There's different sections.
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Episode 409: Sarah Jane Ho: Mastering Etiquette for Dating and the 20-40-2 Rule for Better Conversations
So you can just pull and just read a little bit and then put it down and go back. It's not sequential like that, right? Exactly. And it's a combination of anecdotes, A lot of anecdotes, right? So each section is maybe one to two pages. Exactly. And it's like, like I said, an easier read. So I want to ask you a few questions. Okay.
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Episode 409: Sarah Jane Ho: Mastering Etiquette for Dating and the 20-40-2 Rule for Better Conversations
So, or go through a couple of things that I thought were very interesting. Let's just talk about, you said in the book, it takes eight positive encounters to change someone's negative impression of you. So can you just talk about that and how did you, how did, who figured that out? How do you know this to be true? Please just expand on that.
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Episode 409: Sarah Jane Ho: Mastering Etiquette for Dating and the 20-40-2 Rule for Better Conversations
All right, guys, this is a fun episode we're doing today because I have Sarah Jane Ho, otherwise known as Sarah Jane, that's how you go by, who wrote a book called Mind Your Manners. She has the same name for her Netflix show, which is now not going into season two. We don't know yet. You don't know.
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Episode 409: Sarah Jane Ho: Mastering Etiquette for Dating and the 20-40-2 Rule for Better Conversations
Well, I thought also you, but you, you talk about, and this is, I, I, a lot of the things, I think a lot of it also, if you have a higher EQ and you kind of are street smart, you kind of know this instinctually, but it's a great reminder. Yeah. But, you know, your last impression is actually more important than your first impression because that's what you leave with.
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Episode 409: Sarah Jane Ho: Mastering Etiquette for Dating and the 20-40-2 Rule for Better Conversations
And it's true because when you think about it, no matter how much great stuff you've done, it's always the last thing that people always remember, right? So I think, and there's also a name for it. I don't remember that. Oh, yeah. What was it? It's, oh, gosh. The law of the law. The recency effect. The recency effect. Yeah. Which is, and so to me, like, let's talk about that.
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Episode 443: Colleen Pelly: The Secret Quality That Makes You More Hireable Than Technical Skills
Now, are people able, like if I were somebody who was looking for a job, right, unemployed, would I be able to, how do, like, would I be able to call a recruitment agency? Like, how do you find your candidates?
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Episode 443: Colleen Pelly: The Secret Quality That Makes You More Hireable Than Technical Skills
Oh my God, a hundred years ago.
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Episode 443: Colleen Pelly: The Secret Quality That Makes You More Hireable Than Technical Skills
But right, how do you find your people? Do you poach from other companies? Do you go on LinkedIn? Like how do you find people that you could even interview for these job opportunities?
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Episode 443: Colleen Pelly: The Secret Quality That Makes You More Hireable Than Technical Skills
So like if someone's looking for, so you kind of just keep like a Rolodex or like a database of people that you've known over the years that kind of left an impression.
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Episode 443: Colleen Pelly: The Secret Quality That Makes You More Hireable Than Technical Skills
So what's the percentage that you actually go after, like poach through other people? Like you call people who have jobs already versus people who don't have a job. I would say more often than not, they are employed. They are employed. Because it's one of my big theories in life. It's always easier to get a job when you have a job.
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Episode 443: Colleen Pelly: The Secret Quality That Makes You More Hireable Than Technical Skills
It's easier to find a boy or a boyfriend or a girlfriend when you have a relationship. But it's like the law of like Murphy's Law, right? Like when you have it, all these opportunities are available. When you have nothing, nothing.
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Episode 443: Colleen Pelly: The Secret Quality That Makes You More Hireable Than Technical Skills
Why?
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Right.
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Episode 443: Colleen Pelly: The Secret Quality That Makes You More Hireable Than Technical Skills
And how to, you know, be hireable, you know, like, so I thought today we're going to, I thought today would be a great time to have Colleen Pellion, who is the CEO founder of a company called Linchpin, which is basically a recruitment agency. She, you, you help people find jobs, you find companies, you know, get employees from all levels, right? From entry all the way up to C-level.
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Or they're curious.
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I think, I think with life, right? Like when you, when you're like, when you're not desperate. When you just don't care. I mean, not, not. No, it's desperate. Desperate's the right way. Yeah, that's a good word. When you're not desperate for a job or a relationship or a date or whatever, you know, a house, whatever it is. Whatever it is. The, like the, you, you handle yourself differently, right?
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Episode 443: Colleen Pelly: The Secret Quality That Makes You More Hireable Than Technical Skills
Like the best version of you is actually presented, number one. Yeah. And, like, that kind of, like, laissez-faire attitude is way more attractive than this, like, you know, this, like, hint of desperation.
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Episode 443: Colleen Pelly: The Secret Quality That Makes You More Hireable Than Technical Skills
It's hard to say that though when someone needs money though, right? Of course. But then they always say like the best are always taken. So you have to go like, when I build out brands and companies and stuff like that, because I do a lot of stuff with lots of different companies, especially in the tech space, I find all the good tech people are actually taken.
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Episode 443: Colleen Pelly: The Secret Quality That Makes You More Hireable Than Technical Skills
It's really, really hard to find like super good people who can like build apps and people like that. Yeah. There are certain things that require people. I'm going to change what I said earlier. I would say 95% of jobs, it comes down to, you know, the EQ and the likability and the work ethic. But there are those jobs that you just need hardcore ability and talent.
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Episode 443: Colleen Pelly: The Secret Quality That Makes You More Hireable Than Technical Skills
Like accountants are one of these. Tech in terms of building an app, very important. Yeah.
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Yeah. Like short and sweet. Yeah. Yeah. So can you tell me some of the industries that are a good idea for people to kind of look into that are, that are good, good places for people to maybe be able to find a good paying job?
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Give me some jobs that people maybe haven't thought of or people who are maybe in college or, you know, this is what I guess, let me just kind of like, what I'm thinking is like, people are thinking of the same five jobs, you know, when they come in, like, am I going to be a lawyer? Am I going to be a doctor? Am I going to be an accountant? Am I going to be an influencer? That's a big one now.
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YouTuber.
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Yeah.
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Episode 443: Colleen Pelly: The Secret Quality That Makes You More Hireable Than Technical Skills
These are all the things that people are actually doing. But there's a whole variety and array of jobs out there and careers, I should call it, not just jobs, that people don't know about because they just don't know what they don't know. So the way I want to frame this question is different. I want you to tell us
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Episode 443: Colleen Pelly: The Secret Quality That Makes You More Hireable Than Technical Skills
some careers or career paths or industries or areas that would be very lucrative for people to maybe explore.
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You mean to be a recruiter. Yeah.
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Episode 443: Colleen Pelly: The Secret Quality That Makes You More Hireable Than Technical Skills
Right? Yeah. So who better to ask than you, right? So thank you for coming on the show.
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Episode 443: Colleen Pelly: The Secret Quality That Makes You More Hireable Than Technical Skills
Can I tell you, okay, I want to like, you said a couple of things that I want to just touch on. It's really interesting. I have a very good friend living in Canada in Toronto. Her and I were really close when I was living in Canada many years ago. She was a recruiter, an executive search recruiter. Is that the same thing?
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Episode 443: Colleen Pelly: The Secret Quality That Makes You More Hireable Than Technical Skills
She did. Just exec. She did either one, the executive search. Actually, no, she was a recruiter because she did only tech stuff. Yeah. She was making so much money.
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Yeah.
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It was absurd. Like it was shocking how much money that she was making as a recruiter because of the commission staff. Like you could make so much money if you're good.
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Yeah.
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Episode 443: Colleen Pelly: The Secret Quality That Makes You More Hireable Than Technical Skills
That's the first thing I was going to say. Yeah. So really what you need to be is tenacious because you have to be able to call people, also remember people.
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I'm really excited to talk to you and have this conversation because I think now more than ever, it's in the zeitgeist of what's happening. I guess my first question for you is, I guess when you're hiring, what is the number one trait that makes somebody hireable?
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Episode 443: Colleen Pelly: The Secret Quality That Makes You More Hireable Than Technical Skills
To keep in touch. to be able to follow up, to maintain a relationship. These are like fundamental. These are like, to me, these are life skills that like make the biggest difference. Right. And so, and also be good at sales, right? You're going to sell yourself. You're going to sell the company. And an opportunity. The opportunity.
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Like this is to me a massive area for people who are listening and they don't know what to potentially maybe look into for a job. Being a recruiter is a great option, I think. And also if you're placing jobs that are like a hundred thousand plus, you're making a major commission off of that. Like what's the commissions you guys make?
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Episode 443: Colleen Pelly: The Secret Quality That Makes You More Hireable Than Technical Skills
That's great money. Yeah. The other thing I find very interesting is what you're saying. To your point, plumbers, electricians. Do you know how impossible it is to find a plumber? Right. I needed a plumber for my house. We were waiting. three weeks, a month maybe, because they're so in demand. And these plumbers are making a lot of money.
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Episode 443: Colleen Pelly: The Secret Quality That Makes You More Hireable Than Technical Skills
But like there are, I think plumbers now, there are plumbers, and I think this is pretty much like all, universal now, like everywhere, are making more money than doctors.
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By the way, teachers make no money. And they should make more than all of us. That's, by the way, one of these jobs, or I should say careers, that's like, they pay them nothing and they deserve so much more. It's unbelievable.
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Oh, me too. I can't even imagine like 15. But there are some people who are just like really, like they have a lot of patience. If you're somebody who has a lot of patience and just loves kids, it's a great job. Me, I would strangle every child in there, including myself. I'd be the worst person to work in a daycare center. But I do find that interesting.
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So there's in that trades world, you're talking electricians, you're talking plumbers, carpenters.
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Episode 443: Colleen Pelly: The Secret Quality That Makes You More Hireable Than Technical Skills
the base salary is not a lot you need the commission you also have to be a self-starter yeah and you're hungry yeah hungry yeah but also like entrepreneurial because it is your business that you're growing and it may be working within another business or just on your own like this is to me it's like being an entrepreneur right like these some everyone thinks it's sexy oh i'm gonna like it's become a very like hashtag worthy you know word like i'm an entrepreneur
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Do you know how hard it is to be an entrepreneur?
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Episode 443: Colleen Pelly: The Secret Quality That Makes You More Hireable Than Technical Skills
But you have to have the thick skin, the stomach for it. I also – I don't know if you know this either, but – My whole brand is around being bold, right? And I did this TED Talk on being bold is actually more important than being intelligent and all these things. And this whole idea was behind the 10% target, which is this idea that you make 10 attempts at whatever you want most.
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And so the idea behind it is that one of two things happen. Either you get the opportunity that you go after or another thing will present itself that you never even knew existed by just going through the process.
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Episode 443: Colleen Pelly: The Secret Quality That Makes You More Hireable Than Technical Skills
And the nice thing is what happens when you do that process is you end up failing and you get comfortable with failing because now you already have like some kind of framework where you're like, okay, I'm making 10 attempts. So now that's what I'm doing. So if I fail at the first, second, third, fourth, fifth, that's okay. And then you actually teach yourself to become immune to failing.
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Yeah. And so, and I started to talk to all these like big sales companies because like that's really at the end of the day for people to become or for people to make a shot or, you know, give it a shot or it's about learning how to be resilient, how to be, how to be okay with failure.
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First of all, the majority of people that I know, including myself, I fail 99.9% of the time. You just need to win once. But you will win. But it's a numbers game. It's volume. The more you take a shot, the better your chance is at actually getting that shot.
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Yeah, setback is feedback.
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Episode 443: Colleen Pelly: The Secret Quality That Makes You More Hireable Than Technical Skills
Yeah. Yeah. I also think it's also like, we can talk about, I feel like all this, like people just try to like, oh, setback is, you know, is either feedback or setback is a feedback or like, or there's all these like other things.
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cliche things similar like yeah like cliches like you know like it's um when you're like when you fall when you get up it's like redirection and all these things at the end of the day it's really simple it's like the more shots you make the the better chance you're gonna get well and also a success if you don't ask for it it's never gonna happen you don't ask you don't get it's like the squeaky wheel gets the oil right like maybe it's a canadian thing yeah you know you know a cliche i'm
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Episode 443: Colleen Pelly: The Secret Quality That Makes You More Hireable Than Technical Skills
It's so true. Well, a hundred percent. Like, that's what I was saying earlier. It's like, when you are practicing these 10 attempts and you're failing at them, the more you do something, the less uncomfortable it becomes, right? So like me at this point, like I'll do anything. I don't give a shit. Like if it works, it works.
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If not, it doesn't even like, it's like no, it's like- But you're confident too, which I think takes, that's a skill. But you know what? Confidence comes from being competent. And I feel like I've built that muscle of competence because I've tried and practiced and practiced so much that the more you practice, you get better and better. And so now I feel like I'm really competent at failing.
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So now it's like, okay, that's my superpower. I don't care when I fail. So like if I try to do something or I ask for something and I don't get it, well, okay, well, at least I feel better about myself that at least I made the shot. You tried. Yeah. Like, and I think that rejection is always better than regret. I never, right?
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I never want to look back at something and be like, you know, what, what if? I wish I did. Yeah. Or what if, what if I tried that? Or like, what if that happened? Like on your deathbed, you're not thinking about all the things that you did. You think about all the things you did not do. Yeah. You know, like, oh, if I only apologize to this person. Right. Or spend more time with this or did this.
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Yes. So regret, like I find regret to be a really horrible gutter, gutter, like gutterly bad feeling. Yeah. That's a word. Yeah. So I'll get rejected all day long. I don't care.
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Episode 443: Colleen Pelly: The Secret Quality That Makes You More Hireable Than Technical Skills
Right. So like you're so like this is why I like you because you are you are an entrepreneur because you started this business. You're a recruiter, which in itself, it's like a double whammy.
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Episode 443: Colleen Pelly: The Secret Quality That Makes You More Hireable Than Technical Skills
It's a lot of like being a recruiter right away. Super difficult to start your own business. And then a recruitment business, which is all all eat what you kill, period. End of story. Right. And it's a really saturated market. It's is it?
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Episode 443: Colleen Pelly: The Secret Quality That Makes You More Hireable Than Technical Skills
That's like-minded like you. Can I ask you another question that I find? Yeah. I find it interesting because also the workforce has also changed a lot over the last few years, especially since COVID, right? Nobody wants to go into work. Everybody wants to work remotely. Yeah. How does that impact employment?
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Episode 443: Colleen Pelly: The Secret Quality That Makes You More Hireable Than Technical Skills
So it's funny because I think that self-awareness is key for all walks of life, right? And it's not so common, right? It's something that we, I guess, some of us, I do feel in your opinion, is it something that someone can work on or is it something that's more innate?
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Episode 443: Colleen Pelly: The Secret Quality That Makes You More Hireable Than Technical Skills
But do the companies do better when their employees are in office versus hybrid or remote?
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I don't know. I think there's something to be said for two things, employee morale.
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And also just camaraderie.
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Because what happens is I find we're living in a more and more disconnected world as, like, just in general. Yep. And now we're putting the onus – like, the rules are now on the employees, not the employers. Like, we're having to bend towards people's disinterest or desire to go into an office. And what I feel is happening is people are becoming – lazy.
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And they're, and they're not realizing that like they're the work. I mean, you're right. There's some jobs that, yeah, it doesn't require to be back in the office, but it's not even so much about that. It's about creating community, corporate culture. Corporate culture is very hard to build when everybody is dispersed in their homes.
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Episode 443: Colleen Pelly: The Secret Quality That Makes You More Hireable Than Technical Skills
But you're at a sales job. It's different. Yeah.
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I don't like, listen, I hate the office. But what I feel is that you don't get a job that's office driven. But it's different when you are a salesperson because your bottom line is based, what you eat is based on how much you sell. That's right. Yeah. Okay. So then that doesn't, there has to be some like malleability. Yeah.
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Episode 443: Colleen Pelly: The Secret Quality That Makes You More Hireable Than Technical Skills
But if it's a marketing job or if it's a job that's involving PR or whatever it is, I don't know. Design, yeah. and flexibility at the employer's expense. Like work-life balance. Like now people are like calling the shots. I don't want to work later than three. I don't want to work on Friday. I don't want to wear that to work. It's like, you know what? Then don't get a job and you'll go hungry.
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Episode 443: Colleen Pelly: The Secret Quality That Makes You More Hireable Than Technical Skills
Exactly. I think that's very common. What I also find interesting that in all my dealings in life and business, that I feel that talent is very overrated. And talent definitely gets you through the door. But if you don't have these other micro skills…
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At what point is it too much? At what point, like, I feel like the pendulum has now swung so far one direction that it's becoming a real problem. Like, where it's a different thing. Like, oh, the triggers, the safe places. Yes, right. You know, all of this kind of rhetoric.
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It's soft and gentle. Yeah.
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Which I feel, from all the research and data I've seen, I've seen people and companies actually plummet. They're not staying plateau. They're not actually like staying... They're not thriving, let's put it that way.
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Wokeness is another word.
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That's the word I'm thinking.
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There should be parameters in place you're saying. Yeah.
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Episode 443: Colleen Pelly: The Secret Quality That Makes You More Hireable Than Technical Skills
And sort of what's more mine. It's like… I'm not where you are, right? Yeah. Yeah. I feel like I'm not an office person, so I know better to get a job, an office job.
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Episode 443: Colleen Pelly: The Secret Quality That Makes You More Hireable Than Technical Skills
Right. And also, whatever money I make, if I don't make money and I don't work, then I won't make money. And if I do work, then I will make money. But my personality is okay with that. A lot of people's personalities are not okay with that.
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It's not aligning because I think a lot of times people want to be, again... entrepreneur. They want to be an entrepreneur, but they don't have the chops to actually do that. So they want a company to kind of pay them a salary, but then they don't want to like, they don't, they don't want to acquiesce to what it requires to have a salary to get this done. Yeah.
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Episode 443: Colleen Pelly: The Secret Quality That Makes You More Hireable Than Technical Skills
like you said, like self-awareness or a higher EQ or reading the room or all these other things, work ethic, it really does dampen the importance of talent.
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Yeah. I think we all have work to progress. But I guess my other question, again, was kind of like what I was saying is, have you seen it more difficult to find or place people because of this new gentle, mindful, as you would put it? What was the other word you used?
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Safe.
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Really? Yeah.
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I remember.
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When I was living in Toronto and I was at the Raptors at the time.
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Episode 443: Colleen Pelly: The Secret Quality That Makes You More Hireable Than Technical Skills
I remember people were coming in, taking them in. They took like they were living in All these places that were, I can say the names, people won't know, but like Oakville, this is all, whatever. I know. Yeah, I know you know. But 45 minutes to an hour and it was like kind of what you did if you wanted the job.
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Well, it was not that they didn't care. It's what you had to do. Yeah, they knew it was a part of what was needed. If you wanted the job. Yeah. Like it was what was required of you. Yeah. And this is my issue. It's like, what is required? Like sometimes you're going to have to go above and beyond what you want to do to get to where you want to be. And that's what I'm talking about.
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Episode 443: Colleen Pelly: The Secret Quality That Makes You More Hireable Than Technical Skills
But like now there's a whole thing on like how Gen Z, do you know that 26% of Gen Z are now bringing their parent to a job interview because they don't feel comfortable? comfortable and confident enough to have an interview. Yeah. This is what's happening in, well, in the US anyway. I don't know what the numbers are. You've never experienced anything like this?
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Pulling out before the interview? Yeah, like sort of like...
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Hold on. You're telling me. Yeah. That's someone that you are interviewing for a job. Yeah. For them to have a job.
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And you had to switch it, let's just say, to reschedule.
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The fact that you're justifying it to this person to me is even crazy. Like, let me get this straight. I'm going to help you find a job that you could pay your bills with. And I don't, because I had to reschedule and shift, you know, they're telling you now what's what. This is my, this is my problem with Gen Z. Right. Yep. Yep. No, it's such… Terrible.
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Right. They want to either, like… Or they want to… There's other types of jobs out there, like social media managers or… Content creators is a big one, right? Content creators.
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Episode 443: Colleen Pelly: The Secret Quality That Makes You More Hireable Than Technical Skills
It does. It kind of, I guess you're right. And like what jobs, what kind of careers kids are wanting to seek is like you said, very different than what it used to be. Like it used to be doctor, lawyer, let's say. Yeah. Nurse.
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Content creation is a big one or the YouTuber. AI is a big one, but AI is like going to be taking over like both of our jobs. Yeah. Like we won't need, they won't need recruiters. They won't need podcasters. They won't need anything.
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Yeah.
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Well, what I would think would be a really great area to get involved with is how to use AI because someone's going to have to like, I would think manually work it. Right. So like, even though AI is going to be taking over a lot of different jobs, right. And they have,
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I mean, listen, I think I should tell you, I don't know if you know this, you probably don't, but many, many years ago, yeah, many, like 25 years ago, when I was in between jobs and career, I got a job at a recruitment agency. Amazing, I did not know that. No, I didn't think you would know this.
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They are already being, like, to your point, like, I use it when I need to do a presentation or some type of really huge communication piece or, like, research or all these things. Oh, research has been so useful. Research is so useful. But you have to know how to use it effectively. Yeah. having people to actually like use it or teach it or it's very, very valuable.
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Yeah, exactly.
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Episode 443: Colleen Pelly: The Secret Quality That Makes You More Hireable Than Technical Skills
But it's a way to kind of – so you're utilizing AI but in a way that also incorporates a human person.
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Absolutely. Yeah.
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Episode 443: Colleen Pelly: The Secret Quality That Makes You More Hireable Than Technical Skills
Well, like I said, I think that there are going to have to be people that man the AI or teach the AI or keep on, like, creating versions and versions of it. Or, you know, the truth is, like, a layman's person like me going on AI to research something is very different than someone who really knows how to use it well and they know exactly, specifically how to talk to it.
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And they may get more, yeah. And they will get way better, more unique information, you know, through it.
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I'll let you know when I figure it out. Thank you. Well, okay. So thank you. Let me know. What other things can you teach us or that we can glean from you in terms of the workforce, what we could be looking? Is there anything else that we can give our audience?
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And what I found was I was working on, I got hired to like help with like technology people, like people to do like It was like graphic design. It was like coding. It was computer talent. And what I found, even with my own like very minimal experience, the people who got the job or I recommended were the people that were the most likable, that I just like to be around.
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Episode 443: Colleen Pelly: The Secret Quality That Makes You More Hireable Than Technical Skills
See, this is the EQ part, right? Like if you teach that, cause that's like a very, that's a, that's a skill to know how much to do where you're not pushy versus annoying or annoying.
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Episode 443: Colleen Pelly: The Secret Quality That Makes You More Hireable Than Technical Skills
Exactly. But it's really important to really build out your network. I think like we say, there's a reason why I believe this cliche. It's not what you know, it's who you know. And it's about like networking well. And I always say that everybody can be a conduit to someone else. So it's not who you're speaking to at that exact moment, but they have a whole network.
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Episode 443: Colleen Pelly: The Secret Quality That Makes You More Hireable Than Technical Skills
And then that person has a whole network. So always leave another meeting with another name. That's what I always tell people. I love that. Yeah. But thank you so much, Colleen, for coming on. I really appreciate this information. This was really fun. I hope people have gleaned a lot of, I think they have.
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Episode 443: Colleen Pelly: The Secret Quality That Makes You More Hireable Than Technical Skills
They've gleaned a lot of actionable things of what other areas they can look at or look into that maybe they haven't thought of. Where do people find you?
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Episode 443: Colleen Pelly: The Secret Quality That Makes You More Hireable Than Technical Skills
I'm going to follow you. And of course, you're welcome. I love this. I think it's very helpful. I like to give people things that they can actually utilize and things that are helpful. And this is definitely one of them, especially in the time we're in now. So thank you so much. Thank you. Bye.
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Episode 443: Colleen Pelly: The Secret Quality That Makes You More Hireable Than Technical Skills
And like, it is my opinion in general, I think that likability is a way bigger indicator of someone's success and overall higher ability than any talent that you can ever have.
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Episode 443: Colleen Pelly: The Secret Quality That Makes You More Hireable Than Technical Skills
Yeah.
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Episode 443: Colleen Pelly: The Secret Quality That Makes You More Hireable Than Technical Skills
Well, that's another one, like a sense of urgency.
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It's so unhealthy.
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Episode 443: Colleen Pelly: The Secret Quality That Makes You More Hireable Than Technical Skills
Right. I think that there's like certain things that override just actual, like you said, technical ability, right? Now, do you feel like, would you specialize? Do you have any specialties at Linchpin? Yeah. Great question.
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Episode 443: Colleen Pelly: The Secret Quality That Makes You More Hireable Than Technical Skills
Really?
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Episode 443: Colleen Pelly: The Secret Quality That Makes You More Hireable Than Technical Skills
Right.
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Episode 443: Colleen Pelly: The Secret Quality That Makes You More Hireable Than Technical Skills
Right. Well, it's like also transferable skills, right? If you can do it in one area... You can do it in another area. It doesn't matter, right? Like if you can sell a widget, you can sell a widget in cars, you can sell a widget for a sofa or whatever it is. Absolutely. Because it's like the foundational skills of knowing of like what you're doing.
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Episode 443: Colleen Pelly: The Secret Quality That Makes You More Hireable Than Technical Skills
Right.
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Episode 443: Colleen Pelly: The Secret Quality That Makes You More Hireable Than Technical Skills
Right, right, right.
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Episode 443: Colleen Pelly: The Secret Quality That Makes You More Hireable Than Technical Skills
Well, also the companies that do really well and thrive all have a very streamlined feel to it. Like Lululemon is a great example. And I know you used to work with Lululemon.
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Episode 443: Colleen Pelly: The Secret Quality That Makes You More Hireable Than Technical Skills
Really? Yeah. I knew you worked with them. I wasn't sure if it was the beginning or like middle. Yeah, that's right. But what they did very early on, and I think they were the first ones that I recognized was doing really well, was building a culture. And the culture was very, very strong. And everybody that they hired, they all fit that culture really well. And like bought into it. Yes, exactly.
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Episode 443: Colleen Pelly: The Secret Quality That Makes You More Hireable Than Technical Skills
And I think like it was almost... What was that called? Did you guys have a mandate? Like when they... when they hired you to hire their employees, did they give you kind of like a mission statement to work with or?
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Episode 443: Colleen Pelly: The Secret Quality That Makes You More Hireable Than Technical Skills
Right. And did everybody, I mean, yeah, that was like the big, at the time.
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Episode 443: Colleen Pelly: The Secret Quality That Makes You More Hireable Than Technical Skills
At the, but everybody's personality fit a very specific, I felt like a very specific kind of collective rule, like not rules is the wrong word, but like everyone kind of was cut from the same cloth.
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Episode 443: Colleen Pelly: The Secret Quality That Makes You More Hireable Than Technical Skills
But it wasn't a yoga company. It was actually an apparel company. It was a clothing company. They were selling the most expensive pair of pants on the planet, yoga pants, right? Yeah, that's right.
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Episode 443: Colleen Pelly: The Secret Quality That Makes You More Hireable Than Technical Skills
Oh, it's still. And by the way, yeah. But now they were the first of its kind. Now there's a million of them, right?
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Episode 443: Colleen Pelly: The Secret Quality That Makes You More Hireable Than Technical Skills
I also found everyone very friendly when they walked in. Yeah. And everybody, not just friendly, but like overly like happy. Yeah. Yeah.
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Episode 443: Colleen Pelly: The Secret Quality That Makes You More Hireable Than Technical Skills
Right. Yeah. But like, but like it works, right? Yep. Yeah. Because I'm now talking about it like years later because they obviously set a standard that they would hire for.
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Episode 443: Colleen Pelly: The Secret Quality That Makes You More Hireable Than Technical Skills
And I guess when everyone starts that job, they get like some kind of manifesto.
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Episode 443: Colleen Pelly: The Secret Quality That Makes You More Hireable Than Technical Skills
It looked like it was fun.
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Episode 443: Colleen Pelly: The Secret Quality That Makes You More Hireable Than Technical Skills
And then, so were you, so you weren't really involved in like building out the brand culture at that level at that point?
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Episode 443: Colleen Pelly: The Secret Quality That Makes You More Hireable Than Technical Skills
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Episode 443: Colleen Pelly: The Secret Quality That Makes You More Hireable Than Technical Skills
Yeah.
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Episode 443: Colleen Pelly: The Secret Quality That Makes You More Hireable Than Technical Skills
Can you give me another example of a really strong corporate culture that you were a part of that you helped kind of, I guess, really execute on?
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Episode 443: Colleen Pelly: The Secret Quality That Makes You More Hireable Than Technical Skills
And what kind of mandate were you given? What were they looking for?
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Episode 443: Colleen Pelly: The Secret Quality That Makes You More Hireable Than Technical Skills
Wow. How many people did you hire for them? Thousands. And from what level to what level? Yeah.
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Episode 443: Colleen Pelly: The Secret Quality That Makes You More Hireable Than Technical Skills
Wow.
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Episode 443: Colleen Pelly: The Secret Quality That Makes You More Hireable Than Technical Skills
Welcome to Habits & Hustle. Today, we have a very special guest because I thought given where we are in the world and how everything right now is tweaking and changing, of course, with the new president coming in, I think a big thing that's in everybody's mind is inflation, the economy. How does employment, how does all this impact jobs, basically, right?
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Episode 443: Colleen Pelly: The Secret Quality That Makes You More Hireable Than Technical Skills
Yeah, project-based.
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Episode 443: Colleen Pelly: The Secret Quality That Makes You More Hireable Than Technical Skills
Was Elon involved in that, like, in terms of, like, building up the mission statement, the manifesto, what people should be... He spoke at, oh, my gosh, the word, like, town halls. Yeah. Like a sort of a... For Tesla. Yeah.
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Episode 443: Colleen Pelly: The Secret Quality That Makes You More Hireable Than Technical Skills
Right. But people, everyone there, like, like they wanted you, one of the people to feel like lucky to have had the job.
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Episode 443: Colleen Pelly: The Secret Quality That Makes You More Hireable Than Technical Skills
Oh, but I mean, for the people that you're hiring, did they all come from Ivy League? Did they all come from?
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Episode 417: Dr. Leonard Sax: The Collapse of Parenting and the Rise of Childhood Anxiety and Depression
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Episode 417: Dr. Leonard Sax: The Collapse of Parenting and the Rise of Childhood Anxiety and Depression
I actually have been looking very forward to having you on this podcast because I've been doing a lot of my own research, deep dive into how to build mental resiliency with children. I actually just did a TED Talk myself on... how the coddle culture I thought is part of the reason why kids' resilience has been a miss of this generation.
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Episode 417: Dr. Leonard Sax: The Collapse of Parenting and the Rise of Childhood Anxiety and Depression
So when I saw your work and I read your book recently, before I even did the TED Talk, it was really interesting to me because even though it's the same outcome, By the way, the book is called The Collapse of Parenting. I highly recommend this book to anybody who is a parent.
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Episode 417: Dr. Leonard Sax: The Collapse of Parenting and the Rise of Childhood Anxiety and Depression
So, okay, so let's go back a bit. So basically we all, so having boundaries as kids, kids need boundaries, kids need limits. They definitely need that. I 100% agree. Now, what is to you, it's helicopter parenting, all of this. I feel like it's come much more popular with the left woke, you know, the rise of the woke world and center to left. This is where the gentle parenting is. This is where,
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Episode 417: Dr. Leonard Sax: The Collapse of Parenting and the Rise of Childhood Anxiety and Depression
You know, the participation, the trigger warnings, the safe spaces, the helicopter parenting. What's your whole take on the difference? Because if you're a helicopter parent, you're involved in every aspect of your child's life, which also can be very detrimental to building coping mechanisms and resilience.
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Episode 417: Dr. Leonard Sax: The Collapse of Parenting and the Rise of Childhood Anxiety and Depression
But what I was saying is I found it very interesting because we are all very familiar with Jonathan Haidt's Anxious Generation. And what he says are the reasons for... the decline of what's happening in this next generation, helicopter parenting, social media, all the same things that were... Yours say the opposite.
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Episode 417: Dr. Leonard Sax: The Collapse of Parenting and the Rise of Childhood Anxiety and Depression
Having anxiety, having ADD, it's all cool.
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Episode 417: Dr. Leonard Sax: The Collapse of Parenting and the Rise of Childhood Anxiety and Depression
And I found that to be super... Your whole thesis is that the collapse of this next generation is really because... of actually the culture of disrespect, the collapse of parents actually parenting, and something else called normophobia. And I really want to deep dive into this because I found it to be fascinating. And let's start.
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Episode 417: Dr. Leonard Sax: The Collapse of Parenting and the Rise of Childhood Anxiety and Depression
So, right. And so why, so where did this come from? Like, how did it start where this was more atypical back when I was a child, right? When I was a child, my mom gave me boundaries and there was authority. You can't do that. I wasn't allowed to go to the college parties with the boys. All that was much more common. Now I will say though, my friends who came from very wealthy families were
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Episode 417: Dr. Leonard Sax: The Collapse of Parenting and the Rise of Childhood Anxiety and Depression
I came from a regular middle class, let's say, family. But my friends who came from very wealthy families, they had so much freedom. They were able to like go anywhere and do anything that their parents were much more hands off. And quite frankly, you know, you look at these people 30 years later, right? And they're no great shakes. They're not that successful. They're kind of like loafers.
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Episode 417: Dr. Leonard Sax: The Collapse of Parenting and the Rise of Childhood Anxiety and Depression
And the ones like me who were kind of very disciplined and I wasn't allowed to do this, I had very strict rules around me, we kind of excelled in other ways. Can you talk about how, and then you mentioned this in the book also, like affluenza, affluent families, these schools that are high achievement schools. There's like a very, there's like a contradiction.
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Episode 417: Dr. Leonard Sax: The Collapse of Parenting and the Rise of Childhood Anxiety and Depression
People think that these are gonna give you this ability to be more successful. Let's talk about that.
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Episode 417: Dr. Leonard Sax: The Collapse of Parenting and the Rise of Childhood Anxiety and Depression
How about success, overall success? Because people go to these schools because they think their feet are schooled, right?
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Episode 417: Dr. Leonard Sax: The Collapse of Parenting and the Rise of Childhood Anxiety and Depression
So your background for people, like this guy can speak with authority because you have a PhD from the University of Pennsylvania in psychology.
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Episode 417: Dr. Leonard Sax: The Collapse of Parenting and the Rise of Childhood Anxiety and Depression
But isn't emotional stability part of having the self-control?
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Episode 417: Dr. Leonard Sax: The Collapse of Parenting and the Rise of Childhood Anxiety and Depression
So how can you teach this to a young child? How can you teach how to have more self-control? And how do you teach conscientiousness if you don't have it naturally?
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Episode 417: Dr. Leonard Sax: The Collapse of Parenting and the Rise of Childhood Anxiety and Depression
You mentioned something I think is very important that I see has become a huge epidemic here, which is parents are more and more just putting their kids on medication because if the kids are badly behaved or they do something out of line, they think it's ADD or bipolar or a behavioral issue, a mental health problem, anxiety. Let's just go with anxiety, for example.
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Episode 417: Dr. Leonard Sax: The Collapse of Parenting and the Rise of Childhood Anxiety and Depression
Every kid I know seems to be on anxiety medication at a very young age or ADD medication. You mentioned in your book how parents prefer to either get a diagnosis of a mental health issue than a behavioral issue and then do the work to fix a behavior issue. Can we talk about how that's become a really big problem?
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Episode 417: Dr. Leonard Sax: The Collapse of Parenting and the Rise of Childhood Anxiety and Depression
And how can we encourage people to stop that behavior and really eliminate the, I guess, these Over-prescribing. Over-prescribing and the diagnosis. Because if you say to your kid, oh, you have ADD, then they rest on that laurel and act as if, like you were saying earlier, right?
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Episode 417: Dr. Leonard Sax: The Collapse of Parenting and the Rise of Childhood Anxiety and Depression
If you tell your kid, oh, I have bipolar or I have ADD, then that's their excuse to not do something because you've given them that.
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Episode 417: Dr. Leonard Sax: The Collapse of Parenting and the Rise of Childhood Anxiety and Depression
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Episode 417: Dr. Leonard Sax: The Collapse of Parenting and the Rise of Childhood Anxiety and Depression
Would Canada be in that as well?
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Episode 417: Dr. Leonard Sax: The Collapse of Parenting and the Rise of Childhood Anxiety and Depression
And then what about anxiety? That's the other one, right? So ADD is one that the kids are always on part of the medication for. And the other one is anxiety. Isn't that kind of an arbitrary thing? How do you know if your kid actually has anxiety or ADD?
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Episode 417: Dr. Leonard Sax: The Collapse of Parenting and the Rise of Childhood Anxiety and Depression
So what are some ways you could, how a parent can help change the behavior to eliminate that option of medication for ADD? Like, because again, it's an arbitrary thing, right? If they say that kids are having bad grades or not paying attention or acting out or whatever the reasons are, right?
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Episode 417: Dr. Leonard Sax: The Collapse of Parenting and the Rise of Childhood Anxiety and Depression
At the end of the day, you know, big reason you say this, also talk about this, is that it's an easier parenting strategy to put your child on medication, right? Because it takes a lot of time and effort. to parent and to, we can change the behaviors of your child, right?
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Episode 417: Dr. Leonard Sax: The Collapse of Parenting and the Rise of Childhood Anxiety and Depression
And what would you say, if you boil it down, is that key point?
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Episode 417: Dr. Leonard Sax: The Collapse of Parenting and the Rise of Childhood Anxiety and Depression
I love that. And you mentioned sleep before. Give me one more actionable thing a parent can do.
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Episode 417: Dr. Leonard Sax: The Collapse of Parenting and the Rise of Childhood Anxiety and Depression
Yeah. Instead of, yeah, for a behavior attack.
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Episode 417: Dr. Leonard Sax: The Collapse of Parenting and the Rise of Childhood Anxiety and Depression
Wow. I haven't heard anyone say that before because it's such a controversial thing to say.
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Episode 417: Dr. Leonard Sax: The Collapse of Parenting and the Rise of Childhood Anxiety and Depression
Okay. I like that. Dan, I have so many questions for you, but I feel like I'm going to have to have you back because there's too many things to go over, right? Like there's so much more, way more stuff to go over. Would you come back on the show? Actually, can I ask you one more question? Because this is actually an important one.
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Episode 417: Dr. Leonard Sax: The Collapse of Parenting and the Rise of Childhood Anxiety and Depression
Because I want to talk, because this is a big area of what I do, is health and wellness, right? And so you mentioned in the book about kids and obesity and how kids are more obese and less in shape and all these things and food with the children today. What's the correlation?
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Episode 417: Dr. Leonard Sax: The Collapse of Parenting and the Rise of Childhood Anxiety and Depression
Because you were saying it wasn't so much about... Is it because of the technology or is there other reasons behind it that are making these kids less healthy, less fit, eating badly?
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Episode 417: Dr. Leonard Sax: The Collapse of Parenting and the Rise of Childhood Anxiety and Depression
Well, it's kind of one of these things, I mean, overall, and it's like the kids are, it's like the inmates are running the asylum overall, right? That's what that general consensus is, that parents are giving these kids, you know, the authority to basically, like, rule the roost. I mean, I have people I know, my friends, some of the people I know, their kids are
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Episode 417: Dr. Leonard Sax: The Collapse of Parenting and the Rise of Childhood Anxiety and Depression
are brutal because the parents just say, well, it's up to, it's up to Jan. It's up to Mary. It's up to who, what they do, how they do it, what they eat. And these kids are brutal. These are some of the kids that I don't want my kids to be playing with because it's not, they're not the kids that I feel that I want as a,
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Episode 417: Dr. Leonard Sax: The Collapse of Parenting and the Rise of Childhood Anxiety and Depression
you know as a peer but you're right and i feel like there's like a way the parents have to take the the onus on them to parent the child what's another reason why the kids are obese is it really because they're not playing besides the obvious which our kids are not playing outside as much they're on video games or on social media so they're not moving as much so like activity is a massive
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Episode 417: Dr. Leonard Sax: The Collapse of Parenting and the Rise of Childhood Anxiety and Depression
So the three things why kids are more obese and less fit are, of course, less activity. The second is less sleep than they've gotten before. And sleep regulates your hormones, obviously, that too. And the third, from what I understand, is the parents are allowing the children to choose what they eat versus taking the ownership.
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Episode 417: Dr. Leonard Sax: The Collapse of Parenting and the Rise of Childhood Anxiety and Depression
Wow. Okay. So thank you. First of all, the book is called The Collapse of Parenting. It is an amazing read. I really, really enjoyed it. In fact, actually, I'm not even finished yet. I think I have another chapter left, but I've recommended it. to so many of my friends to read the book, like legit.
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Episode 417: Dr. Leonard Sax: The Collapse of Parenting and the Rise of Childhood Anxiety and Depression
Like I saw you on something and I really loved your perspective and I thought it was a very refreshing perspective and that's why I really wanted you to be on the podcast. But there's so many other questions I have. So if it's like I said, I'd love to have you back.
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Episode 417: Dr. Leonard Sax: The Collapse of Parenting and the Rise of Childhood Anxiety and Depression
I love that. By the way, that's what I'm listening to on Spotify, your audio book.
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Episode 417: Dr. Leonard Sax: The Collapse of Parenting and the Rise of Childhood Anxiety and Depression
Great. It's great. In fact, are your other books on, on Jiva audio books?
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Episode 417: Dr. Leonard Sax: The Collapse of Parenting and the Rise of Childhood Anxiety and Depression
Oh my God. By the way, that's so interesting because your book was, I thought your voice was great.
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Episode 417: Dr. Leonard Sax: The Collapse of Parenting and the Rise of Childhood Anxiety and Depression
Yeah, no, I thought it was great. No, I really did. So I, like I said, this was, I have like a million more questions, but thank you again. Thank you for being on the show and let's schedule part two, if that's okay with you.
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Episode 417: Dr. Leonard Sax: The Collapse of Parenting and the Rise of Childhood Anxiety and Depression
Thank you. Bye.
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Episode 417: Dr. Leonard Sax: The Collapse of Parenting and the Rise of Childhood Anxiety and Depression
let me just say one thing. So it's interesting because I don't know, I don't remember ever wanting to hang out with adults when I was a kid. Never. I never wanted to. I always wanted to be with my friends. And that was one of the points that you say in the book that I was kind of like confused by, because I don't know any kid who wants to hang out with an adult. Like,
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Episode 417: Dr. Leonard Sax: The Collapse of Parenting and the Rise of Childhood Anxiety and Depression
ever not even just today even when I when I was a kid which was many many moons ago what I found interesting and though and what I wanted to really talk to you about is the culture of disrespect because you've taken you've seen what a hundred and you're a doc you're an actual day-to-day doctor and you've seen 120,000 patients over the last 30 years that's right
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Episode 417: Dr. Leonard Sax: The Collapse of Parenting and the Rise of Childhood Anxiety and Depression
And so you're taking real data in real time and you saw a difference, an evolution of how children, parents, the relationship between the mom, the dad, the child has really morphed and evolved since 1989 until today, 2024. So what did you see? What are the what are the main differences that you saw that really kind of became like the rise of this culture of disrespect?
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Episode 417: Dr. Leonard Sax: The Collapse of Parenting and the Rise of Childhood Anxiety and Depression
That's been that's been a big piece of why the kids are the way they are now.
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Episode 417: Dr. Leonard Sax: The Collapse of Parenting and the Rise of Childhood Anxiety and Depression
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Episode 417: Dr. Leonard Sax: The Collapse of Parenting and the Rise of Childhood Anxiety and Depression
No, I couldn't. Listen, I can't agree more. I'm a mom of two kids. One's 11 and one is nine. And my nine-year-old loves those shows on Nickelodeon and Disney. All those shows that you mentioned. There's a couple other ones that you didn't mention that Ariana Grande's in. I can't remember the name. There's another show called Jessie. I don't know these shows.
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Episode 417: Dr. Leonard Sax: The Collapse of Parenting and the Rise of Childhood Anxiety and Depression
And all these shows that I thought, okay, you know what I did as a parent was I took away YouTube, even YouTube Kids, YouTube Shorts, all of it. And I thought, okay, so my daughter will be safe. But what I noticed is, okay, and she now watches those shows. And I thought, great, they're rated G. Like, how bad can they be? But when I sat with her and listened to the tone of voice, the sarcasm,
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Episode 417: Dr. Leonard Sax: The Collapse of Parenting and the Rise of Childhood Anxiety and Depression
And the way they treat the parents, it was very concerning. And I have to tell you, my daughter has an attitude. She has that sassiness that I thought maybe it would... It didn't occur to me that it would be coming from those shows. But after reading your book, I really took a different look. What are parents really... The question is, Really, like we can talk about all the reasons why.
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Episode 417: Dr. Leonard Sax: The Collapse of Parenting and the Rise of Childhood Anxiety and Depression
What is the what is the answer or what do we do to change it? Right. Like how many barriers can we put on these children? Right.
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Episode 417: Dr. Leonard Sax: The Collapse of Parenting and the Rise of Childhood Anxiety and Depression
Well, I think people just don't know what to do. Like, you're right. Like, I think people go to these youth groups, my kid, and they're eating pizza. That's what they're doing with other kids. And the reality is like life is busy, right? Like this is the issue, right? Like we also want to be realistic with people like in parents, like the world is not the same. Things move really, really fast.
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Episode 417: Dr. Leonard Sax: The Collapse of Parenting and the Rise of Childhood Anxiety and Depression
Technology has completely has taken over the human interactions. There's no such thing unless you make, you really make a concentrated effort, right? So I understand how that's become a situation. However, you know, over the years, parental people, you've said this in the book, like how parents have lost the confidence to actually parent.
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Episode 417: Dr. Leonard Sax: The Collapse of Parenting and the Rise of Childhood Anxiety and Depression
And they're more concerned with being the child's friend than they are to be the parent. And they will acquiesce to behaviors because they want to be liked versus want to be, you And so they let them eat whatever they want. They'll let them watch whatever they want. And so I guess you're saying that parents have to take back that authority and provide the discipline. But go ahead.
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Episode 417: Dr. Leonard Sax: The Collapse of Parenting and the Rise of Childhood Anxiety and Depression
Oh my God. Okay. What a, what a schmadre to get going here. Technology. Yeah. I mean, it's kind of crazy. I live in LA and it's not, I mean, the fact that thank God I have power is amazing here today. So I'm happy to have you.
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Episode 417: Dr. Leonard Sax: The Collapse of Parenting and the Rise of Childhood Anxiety and Depression
So what's the difference? What's the difference between parental authority and discipline? Can you kind of give a distinction?
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Episode 451: Dave Asprey: Marketing Secrets That Built a $20 Billion Biohacking Industry
Hi guys, it's Tony Robbins. You're listening to Habits and Hustle.
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Episode 451: Dave Asprey: Marketing Secrets That Built a $20 Billion Biohacking Industry
And I'm sick all the time. So you got, okay, so you were like basically making, your revenue is $27 million. You raised $8 million.
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Episode 451: Dave Asprey: Marketing Secrets That Built a $20 Billion Biohacking Industry
Yeah.
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Episode 451: Dave Asprey: Marketing Secrets That Built a $20 Billion Biohacking Industry
Wow. And so when you raised the money initially, what did you first do with it? Where did you put it?
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Episode 451: Dave Asprey: Marketing Secrets That Built a $20 Billion Biohacking Industry
Happens all the time. It does.
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Episode 451: Dave Asprey: Marketing Secrets That Built a $20 Billion Biohacking Industry
Yeah. What happened with you though? Because it was so, it was valued, what was the evaluation? A billion almost, you said?
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Episode 451: Dave Asprey: Marketing Secrets That Built a $20 Billion Biohacking Industry
So A, why did they remove you? And what happened? What was the downfall?
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Episode 451: Dave Asprey: Marketing Secrets That Built a $20 Billion Biohacking Industry
Yeah, that's exactly true.
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Episode 451: Dave Asprey: Marketing Secrets That Built a $20 Billion Biohacking Industry
But they usually, that's what happens. Usually the founder gets replaced with someone who knows how to grow it from 50 to 100 and keeps on going.
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Episode 451: Dave Asprey: Marketing Secrets That Built a $20 Billion Biohacking Industry
Wow.
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Episode 451: Dave Asprey: Marketing Secrets That Built a $20 Billion Biohacking Industry
So what happened?
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Episode 451: Dave Asprey: Marketing Secrets That Built a $20 Billion Biohacking Industry
It's like the precipice of the company.
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Episode 451: Dave Asprey: Marketing Secrets That Built a $20 Billion Biohacking Industry
What did it end up selling for?
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Episode 451: Dave Asprey: Marketing Secrets That Built a $20 Billion Biohacking Industry
You made no money off of Bulletproof.
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Episode 451: Dave Asprey: Marketing Secrets That Built a $20 Billion Biohacking Industry
You made a ton of money at the beginning, I would imagine.
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Episode 451: Dave Asprey: Marketing Secrets That Built a $20 Billion Biohacking Industry
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Episode 451: Dave Asprey: Marketing Secrets That Built a $20 Billion Biohacking Industry
Trust me, you'll be happy you did. Do you know what I find interesting as you're talking about your history between, like, you were a very successful executive. You know, even this Brian Johnson guy, right, who's doing kind of like what you did 25 years ago, like using his body and spending $2 million. Like, you initially spent, what, $1 million?
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Episode 451: Dave Asprey: Marketing Secrets That Built a $20 Billion Biohacking Industry
Do we, though? I feel we have a lot of longevity voices.
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Episode 451: Dave Asprey: Marketing Secrets That Built a $20 Billion Biohacking Industry
You know what's so interesting? Because besides all the insane information that you bring to the forefront, you're kind of like that nutty professor or that crazy person that people think, oh, he's nuts. And then 20 years later, it actually comes to fruition, right? You were talking about these things that seemed wacky, and now it's become super mainstream. Yeah.
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Episode 451: Dave Asprey: Marketing Secrets That Built a $20 Billion Biohacking Industry
Also expendable income.
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Episode 451: Dave Asprey: Marketing Secrets That Built a $20 Billion Biohacking Industry
That's the big one. So what I was going to say about Brian Johnson was, it's no accident that both of you came from, you're both very successful prior to getting into longevity and biohacking, let's just say, had a lot of expendable income from being great. You guys had the pedigree and the cognitive ability already to know how to make a business and market it.
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Episode 451: Dave Asprey: Marketing Secrets That Built a $20 Billion Biohacking Industry
But what he's doing is literally what you did 20 years ago. Pretty much. Right. But is it that people are not aware of that's the same... It's the same playbook. It is the same playbook.
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Episode 451: Dave Asprey: Marketing Secrets That Built a $20 Billion Biohacking Industry
Right.
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Episode 451: Dave Asprey: Marketing Secrets That Built a $20 Billion Biohacking Industry
But he's just doing... He's adding different modalities that maybe weren't around back then. Like the plasma or... I'm sure you tried all this stuff as well.
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Episode 451: Dave Asprey: Marketing Secrets That Built a $20 Billion Biohacking Industry
You are?
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Episode 451: Dave Asprey: Marketing Secrets That Built a $20 Billion Biohacking Industry
With who? Who else is going? Can I go?
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Episode 451: Dave Asprey: Marketing Secrets That Built a $20 Billion Biohacking Industry
Wait, okay. There's like so many things you just said I have to unpack. Before we get to the Dalai Lama, which is a big one, talk about this penis enhancement thing. So you got stem cells placed in your penis and it actually grew to two inches, right? For good? Or does it go away after a couple years?
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Episode 451: Dave Asprey: Marketing Secrets That Built a $20 Billion Biohacking Industry
Okay, the soft wave you said.
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Episode 451: Dave Asprey: Marketing Secrets That Built a $20 Billion Biohacking Industry
Did you really?
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Episode 451: Dave Asprey: Marketing Secrets That Built a $20 Billion Biohacking Industry
Does it hurt to get this done?
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Episode 451: Dave Asprey: Marketing Secrets That Built a $20 Billion Biohacking Industry
And so, okay, this is fascinating to me.
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Episode 451: Dave Asprey: Marketing Secrets That Built a $20 Billion Biohacking Industry
No, no, it's just fascinating. Because I think that this, and so does it, so you do have to get it done over and over again. It doesn't last forever.
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Episode 451: Dave Asprey: Marketing Secrets That Built a $20 Billion Biohacking Industry
Okay.
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Episode 451: Dave Asprey: Marketing Secrets That Built a $20 Billion Biohacking Industry
Okay, so wait. So how often are you ejaculating then? Because you've said something about once every 30 days. Give me the, I guess, the playbook of the best way to do this.
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Episode 451: Dave Asprey: Marketing Secrets That Built a $20 Billion Biohacking Industry
And that's how much you should be.
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Episode 451: Dave Asprey: Marketing Secrets That Built a $20 Billion Biohacking Industry
So I have a bunch of questions, really, right? I didn't think we were going to go here. I know. It's like our Weight Watchers or something. But it's actually very interesting, right? Because you're right. I think people are shy and embarrassed and don't know where to go with it.
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Episode 451: Dave Asprey: Marketing Secrets That Built a $20 Billion Biohacking Industry
But you're using these modalities to really enhance every aspect of your life, your cognitive, your physical, your emotional, your spiritual. You've tried everything.
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Episode 451: Dave Asprey: Marketing Secrets That Built a $20 Billion Biohacking Industry
By any means necessary. What have you noticed in the 25 plus, like you've been doing this forever. Is there anything that you can look at now and be like, you know, that actually didn't really work. That was kind of a farce. I learned, because everything evolves with this evolution. Yeah. What are some of the things that are kind of like, kind of not really worthwhile anymore?
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Episode 451: Dave Asprey: Marketing Secrets That Built a $20 Billion Biohacking Industry
Really, years? Years.
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Episode 451: Dave Asprey: Marketing Secrets That Built a $20 Billion Biohacking Industry
Well, Will, I want to talk to you about that. But what I find so interesting about you, I think beyond everything else, you are a master marketer, a master business person. It's one thing to have the knowledge or experience. to educate yourself, right?
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Episode 451: Dave Asprey: Marketing Secrets That Built a $20 Billion Biohacking Industry
Yeah, I saw the cover of the book. That's crazy. Is that real? I was going to ask you if it was Photoshopped.
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Episode 451: Dave Asprey: Marketing Secrets That Built a $20 Billion Biohacking Industry
Are you kidding me?
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Episode 451: Dave Asprey: Marketing Secrets That Built a $20 Billion Biohacking Industry
Okay, so wait. Again, I've got to unpack. This could be like a 12-hour... I don't know how we thought we were going to get done all this. So you're saying sweet potato is really bad for you.
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Episode 451: Dave Asprey: Marketing Secrets That Built a $20 Billion Biohacking Industry
White potatoes.
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Episode 451: Dave Asprey: Marketing Secrets That Built a $20 Billion Biohacking Industry
It's another thing to be able to execute it in a way that people actually, it resonates with, and you've been able to develop such a hardcore community, but over and over again. With all these businesses, like Bulletproof is just one of the things you do. The biohacking conference, 40 years of Zen, Danger Coffee, and the list is like, it's on and on.
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Episode 451: Dave Asprey: Marketing Secrets That Built a $20 Billion Biohacking Industry
That is insane. So how about blueberries or strawberries?
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Episode 451: Dave Asprey: Marketing Secrets That Built a $20 Billion Biohacking Industry
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Episode 451: Dave Asprey: Marketing Secrets That Built a $20 Billion Biohacking Industry
Grab it today. So are you someone that won't eat fruit really that much because of the sugar content as well? Or that's something you know?
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Episode 451: Dave Asprey: Marketing Secrets That Built a $20 Billion Biohacking Industry
Because everyone thought that brown rice was obviously better than white rice.
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Episode 451: Dave Asprey: Marketing Secrets That Built a $20 Billion Biohacking Industry
Dave and I talk all about his strategies, his marketing approach, how he built nine businesses, and how he even bootstrapped Bulletproof to $27 million before taking on venture capital. We also talk about how he got removed off his own board and so much more.
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Episode 451: Dave Asprey: Marketing Secrets That Built a $20 Billion Biohacking Industry
That is so funny.
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Episode 451: Dave Asprey: Marketing Secrets That Built a $20 Billion Biohacking Industry
I'm Canadian. Are you? Yeah. So this is when you said Vancouver, I lived in Toronto. So I know that's where I'm from. So that's okay. So first of all, the vegan, name another myth or biohacking thing that you were like really hard, like hardcore about that you've realized now that is kind of utter nonsense.
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Episode 451: Dave Asprey: Marketing Secrets That Built a $20 Billion Biohacking Industry
So like, I think beyond just like knowing all these biohacking secrets, what I really want to get into today is your marketing secrets. Sure. What actually, like, how did you know what to do, how to get people like in? Is it just polarizing? Is it just being unique? Is it just being like outlandish? Like, what is your secret and what is your strategies? That's what I want to know.
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Episode 451: Dave Asprey: Marketing Secrets That Built a $20 Billion Biohacking Industry
Of course I remember.
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Episode 451: Dave Asprey: Marketing Secrets That Built a $20 Billion Biohacking Industry
Because are you doing strength training with that, 15 minutes?
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Episode 451: Dave Asprey: Marketing Secrets That Built a $20 Billion Biohacking Industry
Right. I mean, the intense intervals is definitely what really kind of changes someone's body composition. However, and so you're saying that a myth was that exercise as a general term was a great way to lose weight, which you now realize that is not.
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Episode 451: Dave Asprey: Marketing Secrets That Built a $20 Billion Biohacking Industry
That's interesting because you're right. I think that type A person, more is not more, right? Okay, so you're saying that's actually an interesting one, especially with the cortisol spike. So you noticed that when you stopped exercising more or you did these intense intervals and did much more of a recovery, your body started to lose weight more and get more lean and your body composition changed.
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Episode 451: Dave Asprey: Marketing Secrets That Built a $20 Billion Biohacking Industry
Easy, yeah, 95.
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Episode 451: Dave Asprey: Marketing Secrets That Built a $20 Billion Biohacking Industry
Yeah, you do that too, right?
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Episode 451: Dave Asprey: Marketing Secrets That Built a $20 Billion Biohacking Industry
Do you work out until you do this? Because I want to know about your routine. Hold on a second. You said something about supplementation and testosterone and thyroid. Are you on testosterone? Are you on hormone replacement?
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Episode 451: Dave Asprey: Marketing Secrets That Built a $20 Billion Biohacking Industry
Because, you know, you look at your Instagram and yes, everything is kind of like, things are super outlandish to the average Joe, but it actually tracks and works and it becomes a thing later on.
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Episode 451: Dave Asprey: Marketing Secrets That Built a $20 Billion Biohacking Industry
That's high. It's not high.
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Episode 451: Dave Asprey: Marketing Secrets That Built a $20 Billion Biohacking Industry
Okay, so tell me.
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Episode 451: Dave Asprey: Marketing Secrets That Built a $20 Billion Biohacking Industry
What are my numbers in the labs? How are you doing it? Are you doing it with a pellet? Are you doing it just injecting it yourself? Like what's the best, in your opinion, what's the best way to increase your testosterone?
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Episode 451: Dave Asprey: Marketing Secrets That Built a $20 Billion Biohacking Industry
Really? Yeah. So yeah, because a lot of the guys I know, they are injecting themselves.
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Episode 451: Dave Asprey: Marketing Secrets That Built a $20 Billion Biohacking Industry
What do you think about peptides or even like GLP-1s and all that? Are you taking those too?
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Episode 451: Dave Asprey: Marketing Secrets That Built a $20 Billion Biohacking Industry
What are you doing? I want to know everything you do in a day, what time you wake up, what you eat, what you drink, everything.
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Episode 451: Dave Asprey: Marketing Secrets That Built a $20 Billion Biohacking Industry
Right, right, right.
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Episode 451: Dave Asprey: Marketing Secrets That Built a $20 Billion Biohacking Industry
That's a great problem to have. But what about these other versions, like Trizepatide and all these other ones? Like Ozempic was like a first version type of thing.
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Episode 451: Dave Asprey: Marketing Secrets That Built a $20 Billion Biohacking Industry
Like the microdosing part.
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Episode 451: Dave Asprey: Marketing Secrets That Built a $20 Billion Biohacking Industry
Right.
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Episode 451: Dave Asprey: Marketing Secrets That Built a $20 Billion Biohacking Industry
You won't continue with that?
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Episode 451: Dave Asprey: Marketing Secrets That Built a $20 Billion Biohacking Industry
How about the red light? I use these, like Therasage. I use my little indoor sauna. I have my outdoor saunas. I have all those things.
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Episode 451: Dave Asprey: Marketing Secrets That Built a $20 Billion Biohacking Industry
These are foundational?
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Episode 451: Dave Asprey: Marketing Secrets That Built a $20 Billion Biohacking Industry
So guys, if you're interested in biohacking, longevity, business and marketing strategies by one of the best that's done it, I would stick around and listen up. Before we dive into today's episode, I first want to thank our sponsor, Therasage. Their TriLight panel has become my favorite biohacking thing for healing my body. It's a portable red light panel that I simply cannot live without.
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Episode 451: Dave Asprey: Marketing Secrets That Built a $20 Billion Biohacking Industry
Like who? Who were you looking up to?
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Episode 451: Dave Asprey: Marketing Secrets That Built a $20 Billion Biohacking Industry
What was that book called?
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Episode 451: Dave Asprey: Marketing Secrets That Built a $20 Billion Biohacking Industry
The Bulletproof Diet was your first book, yeah.
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Episode 451: Dave Asprey: Marketing Secrets That Built a $20 Billion Biohacking Industry
That was a massive movement.
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Episode 451: Dave Asprey: Marketing Secrets That Built a $20 Billion Biohacking Industry
How? So tell me, so like, how did you figure, like the butter and the coffee, right? Like that was like such a trend. People are still- Oh, people still do it. People are still doing it. But that took over the health and fitness industry. Isn't it crazy? It's beyond. Like there was like, obviously, you know, there's like, you can go get that at the cafes and everywhere you went.
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Episode 451: Dave Asprey: Marketing Secrets That Built a $20 Billion Biohacking Industry
It was like the Air One of today.
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Episode 451: Dave Asprey: Marketing Secrets That Built a $20 Billion Biohacking Industry
Oh, really?
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Episode 451: Dave Asprey: Marketing Secrets That Built a $20 Billion Biohacking Industry
I mean, so how did you figure that? So were you basically a human guinea pig for all of these things?
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Episode 451: Dave Asprey: Marketing Secrets That Built a $20 Billion Biohacking Industry
On today's episode of Habits and Hustle, I'm joined by the one and only Dave Asprey. He is the founder of Bulletproof and a pioneer in biohacking. He's a New York Times bestselling author who spent decades optimizing human performance and longevity. And he's helped millions upgrade their lives through science-backed strategies.
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Episode 451: Dave Asprey: Marketing Secrets That Built a $20 Billion Biohacking Industry
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Episode 451: Dave Asprey: Marketing Secrets That Built a $20 Billion Biohacking Industry
Did you come up with the name Bulletproof?
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Episode 451: Dave Asprey: Marketing Secrets That Built a $20 Billion Biohacking Industry
So did you get money, did you raise money after you kind of hit a certain benchmark? Like you were already, your community was already kind of growing.
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Episode 451: Dave Asprey: Marketing Secrets That Built a $20 Billion Biohacking Industry
So you were already like on your way.
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Episode 451: Dave Asprey: Marketing Secrets That Built a $20 Billion Biohacking Industry
And you also were the computer hacker, so you also knew how to market online digitally, I would imagine.
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Episode 451: Dave Asprey: Marketing Secrets That Built a $20 Billion Biohacking Industry
Yeah.
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Episode 451: Dave Asprey: Marketing Secrets That Built a $20 Billion Biohacking Industry
Yeah.
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Episode 451: Dave Asprey: Marketing Secrets That Built a $20 Billion Biohacking Industry
Yeah, it's like a hydrogen or what?
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Episode 451: Dave Asprey: Marketing Secrets That Built a $20 Billion Biohacking Industry
That's the caffeine? Okay.
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Episode 451: Dave Asprey: Marketing Secrets That Built a $20 Billion Biohacking Industry
How old are you?
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Episode 451: Dave Asprey: Marketing Secrets That Built a $20 Billion Biohacking Industry
With that facelift, you look 29, by the way. Why, thank you.
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Episode 451: Dave Asprey: Marketing Secrets That Built a $20 Billion Biohacking Industry
Yeah. What year is this?
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Episode 451: Dave Asprey: Marketing Secrets That Built a $20 Billion Biohacking Industry
Okay.
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Episode 451: Dave Asprey: Marketing Secrets That Built a $20 Billion Biohacking Industry
That's funny.
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Episode 451: Dave Asprey: Marketing Secrets That Built a $20 Billion Biohacking Industry
Oh, wow.
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Episode 451: Dave Asprey: Marketing Secrets That Built a $20 Billion Biohacking Industry
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Yeah.
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
Yeah.
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
Yeah.
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
No.
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
Oh, geez.
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
Exactly.
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
Yeah.
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
Yeah.
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Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit
It's a huge thing.
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
Yeah, well, the Huberman connection, I would imagine.
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
That's crazy. Okay, so because I was going to actually ask you about, in the nutrition sense, like what kind of, I mean, in terms of quality protein, I think you're going to say obviously animal protein versus plant protein.
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
That's like with vegans, right? Yeah, it's tough. It's tough. And that's why I don't understand. To me, you get the most bang for your buck with animal protein.
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
Would you believe in protein shakes? Like, I know you're a fan of Momentous. I'm a fan of Momentous. I'm definitely going to drink this as soon as we're done. Oh, yeah. This is late. This is like on the go. These are delicious. Yeah.
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
That's the thing. Yeah. I was going to give them to you because I thought that... Yeah. Yeah, they're very easy to take and travel with.
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
I did. I saw that.
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
You know, that's funny you say that because I'm a big fan of Momentous as you are because I think that there's a lot of confusion, right? Because there's so many brands on the market. This is, by the way, not an ad for Momentous, but I swear because they do something called triple test. Have you heard of this whole?
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
What is the optimal, I know everything's very individualized based, but what is the optimal diet for high performance?
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
Yeah, third-party tested, yeah.
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Exactly. It's hard to tell. Because that's the problem with all of this. You don't know who to trust because everyone says everything. And then you're overwhelmed. But then I heard, and that's why with Momentous especially, I trust their products. I've seen a lot of different studies come out though regarding chocolate versus vanilla whey.
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
Is it true that chocolate has more heavy metals in lead overall and it's less healthy than vanilla? Have you heard this before? No, I haven't heard that. I'm not sure. Really? No. I just read something about this yesterday, that chocolate has more—they found more toxicities or a lot of different things in protein powder.
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
Really? How? Well, I mean— Why? Why chocolate versus vanilla? Yeah.
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
So I don't really care. That's why, guys, you have to be very careful what products you are. Listen to trusted sources. Listen to Dr. Andy Albin.
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
Okay, for optimal cognitive performance.
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How do you know that companies are telling you the truth?
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I know, but we're so not, by the way. I'm going to clip this and send it to them. They'll be very happy because this was not planned.
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
Right. No, exactly. Okay. So while we're talking about shakes or protein shakes or smoothies, what do you think about the fact that there's been a lot of... Someone came on this podcast recently, a while ago, and talked all about how when you have a shake and how when you blend the shake... The way your body digests the fruits of the shake is much different in the blending process.
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
Your insulin spikes way higher than just eating a fruit by itself. Is that accurate?
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
No, not fruit juice. Taking a banana.
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
And blending it. Okay.
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
Okay.
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
Drinking the meat?
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
Okay, I know. Blueberries, wild salmon. Got it. Right? All this stuff. It's all true. It's all true.
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
Right. Maybe not you, but other people who have to be more conscientious of their insulin or sugar.
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
Right. And also, I guess, so in terms of just, it's better to have that than have, you know, like French fries or something. Totally, exactly, right?
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
How about fiber? People don't talk a lot about fiber. Yeah, super important. Right? People talk a lot about protein and they're missing the fact that fiber helps with your whole like nutrient absorption, right? If you're not absorbing your nutrients, you're kind of fucked.
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
So you can over-fiber? Of course. Because can you also get constipated if you over-fiber? No question about it.
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
Right, right, okay.
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
Wow. I thought most Americans or most people were not eating enough fiber.
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
Do you think eating, I mean, I love breakfast. Can I not eat breakfast? Of course you can eat breakfast. They're like, oh, well, you won't be an autophagy and you're going to be blah, blah, blah.
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
How about fiber supplements?
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
I have one called BioMe here. Have you heard of that one?
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
BioMe. It's very clean. It's like a fiber supplement that is supposed to be very clean and good for you. But yeah.
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
How about other, okay, in terms of supplementing, what's your take? Are there supplements that you think are definitely like 100% you must take? Do you think supplements are overrated? What's your whole take on supplements?
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
Really?
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
Thank you.
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
Thank you. Thank you.
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
You're right. And he hit fast. Like, it was crazy. Like, I remember when I found him at 50,000 or something so small.
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
And then like, I've never seen anyone track that fast. Like, he's at like millions and millions. Like, he's become mainstream. Like, I think probably my mom knows who he is. You know what I mean? Like, it's so bizarre. Yeah.
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on NSF certification, which means every single batch is tested for heavy metals, harmful additives, and label accuracy. And that's why they're trusted by all 32 NFL teams and top collegiate sports dieticians across the country. Here's the thing. They don't sell every supplement under the sun because they believe in nailing the basics with rock-solid consistency.
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
I like to—oh, my gosh. By the way, this wasn't an ad for Andrew Huberman either. Yeah. It just seemed to be like, well, he's—I'm glad he has a friend like you, but you can tell him on the side, listen, this girl, you know, you said you were going to do her show many years ago.
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
And then it's just... Then why is he showing up on other shows?
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
You don't know?
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
Okay, okay.
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
He has time for Joe Rogan. Well, fair enough. You know, I'm just saying. I'm just saying. Okay. Well, anyway, Andrew, you're more than welcome to come on the show if you so have the time. Okay. What was the other thing? Okay. So I had, now I forgot what I was even yammering onto you about. I was saying she supplements. Oh yeah. Let's just go with, okay, we're going to end with this.
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
Give me the day in the life of what you do. You kind of, you're talking about your kids and your morning routine. You're kind of going into your nutrition and then I cut you off with something else. Tell me what you... You got all excited about the bear meat. I got the, yeah, the bear meat like threw me totally off and I was like very excited. So we got the morning down. Okay.
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
And then you, then what happened? Yeah.
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
And what supplements? I want to know everything.
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
Supplementation wise, it is. Oh, wait, one more question about fruit. That was what I had down here. I'm so sorry to interrupt you. What's your take on too much fruit? It's unlikely to be an issue. Okay.
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100%.
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
And people are like, it's not about calorie eating. Yes, it is. And I will tell you something just quickly because you can eat fruit, but I will say I'm a huge fruit person. I can eat five pounds of grapes in one sitting, no problem. And I will gain weight from it.
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
It does happen. Sure.
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
Calories matter.
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100%.
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
You don't. You're not just like... Have you heard of something called NAC, N-A-C?
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
How important is that?
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In what way? What can happen?
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
Okay, I want to tell you about one. I saw it on Instagram, and I went to buy it. It's called Ask... Okay, hold on a second. I'm going to show you on Amazon. This is very important because it was like, I thought it was like, they said it's the number one antioxidant, blah, blah, blah. So important to take. And I was like, oh, okay. I guess I'm missing out on something here. Okay.
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
Why?
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
And it's called astaxanthin.
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
Yeah.
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
It is a potent one. So I thought because it's an antioxidant and it's supposed to be found in blueberries, it's great for your skin, and da-da-da-da, I thought, wow, like more is more, not less is more.
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
So I should get off of these things.
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
Well, I went to get my blood done by this guy who took 300 of my blood markers, and he said that I need to take it.
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
Okay, I got to get my blood taken again. Wow. Yeah, yeah. Okay, thank you. I'm glad you came just for that.
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Here, in L.A. right now. Right. So should I be taking it now because of the air quality?
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
Okay. I need to ask you again, because I'm actually very serious about this now. How much is it if someone comes to see, because you're so, you have all these labs and these tests. If I came to you and said, Hey, I want to be your client. Can you coach me? You personally, you're not going to coach me. Don't lie.
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
So what kind of optimal diet would you put a pro golfer on?
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
How much are you?
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
Okay, I want to know. I think people want to know. I bet you people are curious. Like, how much is it?
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
Is it $1,000? Yeah.
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
5,000?
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
Like, is it by hour, by month?
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
It's not a la carte.
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
You can't be embarrassed. If you're actually charging this price, you have to be able to say it out loud.
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
Why is it better this way? Because people are going to be like, oh, this guy sounds really knowledgeable.
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
Will you tell me afterwards?
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
You said 115-ish markers.
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
Who does that? Who gives me that?
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
So it will tell me.
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How much is that program? That's $1,250.
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
Does someone come to your house and take your blood? You can do that if you want.
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Is much more expensive, again, because it's... No, I'll tell you, I'll ask, because I want to know just in general, because this is, I want to try this stuff. And obviously, I don't know why you're embarrassed to say it over here.
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
And you have like, who's like the biggest athlete you've done, by the way?
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Like someone who's like optimally known to be optimal.
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Patrick Mahomes.
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
Like LeBron?
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
But are they eating more regularly? Generally eating very regularly. Like six times a day or five?
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
Do you train people personally? Yeah. Like in the gym?
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
So you do the whole thing. But you live in Seattle.
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Oh.
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Mm-hmm.
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
So were you a trainer too? Like you did this stuff? Yeah, yeah. Like you did the whole thing?
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Yeah.
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
So were you a trainer then? Like if I were to say, hey, I want a trainer, can you come over?
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
Yeah, so you do the whole thing from kit and caboodle.
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Versus the surgeon or the firefighter or that makes perfect sense. Also, is it true? I mean, again, is it that women and men, intermittent fasting affects women and men differently?
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Wow. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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All the different things.
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
Yeah.
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
Right. Well, I think you're different. I mean, you're obviously so knowledgeable. That's the thing. At a certain level, they need people like you. You can't just be a trainer doing squats and lunges. You have to understand.
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
But I'm saying everything serves a purpose, right? To get to the next level of these intricacies, right? You need someone who has a background in all of these things.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, holistic approach.
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In what they're good at.
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You're the quarterback basically of the program. Kind of. I get that. Yeah. Okay, quickly, in two minutes, give me your day-to-day. Okay, I know you eat bear and eggs in the morning. Then what happens?
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
And then other habits, like you work out at 2 or 3 o'clock.
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Do you do push-pull?
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Where are you staying? At the Ramada Inn now or where?
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
Okay. Not gender specific. The reason why I say gender is because I found that for women, I've noticed, the response is different overall. Some women think it's the best thing in the world. There's a bunch of fasting experts, doctors, who think that it's Nishanda if you don't fast.
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Yeah. By the way, the best in the world have coaches.
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
Yeah. I agree with you.
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
And if you're motivated, then you don't need someone to stand with you, right? I don't need that at all. You just need them to kind of give you the program.
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Yeah. I mean, I'm the same way as you.
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
Wow. By the way, I'm so sorry. I kept you here for three plus hours. I mean, I could go on and on. My leg fell asleep like four times.
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
But okay, I'm going to let you leave because I know you're probably like, when is this girl going to shut up?
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
I mean, and I can go on and on, but I'm going to give you, I'm going to let you peace out. Okay. Okay. You guys, this is again, Dr. Andy Galpin. Check out all his programs. Check out his podcast. Check out his six part series with Andrew Heberman, who we, who he loves. And he's great. You like, you're great. Would you, would you come back?
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
All right, because I would love to have you on like semi-regularly if you can stand it. Because I mean, you have, I mean, if I'm going to ask these questions, I want to ask them to someone who pretty much I can guarantee has the answer in, you know, who knows the answer, not just making up shit as they go. You know what I mean?
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
Okay, well, just pretend. All right. All right. Thank you so much for coming on the show.
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Bye, everyone.
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
Yeah, I say the opposite. I think it's worse.
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And those basics are protein and creatine. Momentous sources Creapure, the purest form of creatine monohydrate available, an absolute must for both men and women who want peak physical and cognitive performance. So if you're serious about leveling up, go to LiveMomentous.com and use code JEN for 20% off. Just act now. Start today. JEN for 20% off. LiveMomentous.com.
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
That doesn't always happen, right?
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
You said something, though. You said there are six things that are fundamental in your nutrition for optimal... Yeah.
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
So let's talk about protein, right? Different types of protein. What do you say would be the amount of protein someone should eat a day, basically? Gram a pound. Gram a pound. Same as everybody else says. Okay. So give me a, what do you eat? Give me what you eat every single day.
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
Okay.
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Wild game meat.
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What? Bear? Yeah.
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Wait, you've hunted a bear? Yeah, of course. Of course, isn't everybody? I feel like I'm losing out. I'm missing out on something. It's quite tasty. You've eaten a bear?
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Cannot comprehend it.
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How is it different than a cow, taste-wise?
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
How often do you eat this wild meat? Every day.
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
Does your family eat this too?
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
So do everything you eat, you hunt yourself?
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
How many years? My wife goes. Oh, okay, okay. So it's not that because you don't believe in the grocery store.
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
Not enough pork. I mean, I'm Jewish, so I don't eat pork.
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
Yeah, she's a bad Jew. Most Jews don't eat pork, but I mean, pork now sounds much better than bear, I got to tell you.
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
Finally, I want to get to nutrition. I've been dying to ask you about this stuff. Okay. Optimal nutrition, optimal diet. I know there's so much, so much information, right? Like about intermittent fasting, fasting for 24, whatever it's 24 hours, keto, non-keto, paleo, vegan, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Can you talk about nutrition beyond just nutrition? eat a lot of protein, right? Sure.
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I can't even believe... You just said it so matter-of-factly like everybody you'd say.
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
What do you make with bear? You said bear steak?
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
How do you make a bear sausage?
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
I can't even right now. Oh, my God.
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Episode 433: Dr. Andy Galpin: Forget Diet Trends - Simple Nutrition Principles That Actually Work
Do you go hunting with Joe Rogan? I feel like he's the only one that does all that.
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
I would imagine. In terms of just, let's stay on like influencer marketing. What's the difference between digital marketing? Like is influencer marketing, how do you get the biggest bang for your buck online when you market?
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
All right, because our guest today is Shannon Race. She is the principal at Starshot Ventures, which is a venture fund where they basically invest in brands, emerging brands or ideas, which we're going to talk about. She's also the co-founder of a company called Biome. We're going to get all into it. And we're going to learn about how deals are made in the venture space.
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
But say it because that's the truth, right?
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
Because that's a very good point, right? Like it's one thing to kind of be the first to bring a category to, I guess, to the market, right? Like a collagen for vital proteins. Yeah. It's a whole different thing when you're trying to like re-innovate or innovate something that's been around forever, right? So can you walk me through like steps on how you do that?
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
I've known about fiber for, I mean, in terms of for gut health, it is like a primary source. Like you, It helps your entire digestive system regulate.
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
What are some like hot things that people are looking at now, like what's emerging, what's trending. And so, like I said, if you are an entrepreneur, you know, you're going to like this one. So, so stay tuned. So hi, Shannon. Hi. Thank you for having me. Absolutely. I know we were talking so much before we even started this whole mic thing. I'm like, oh my God.
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
So that's why you're like, you know what, we got to bring, we got to like rebrand fiber.
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
Yeah.
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
I think that's, I think like I was saying earlier to you, I feel like right now it's all about protein. People are talking about protein, protein, protein, protein. That's all you hear on social media. Eat more protein. It's maybe because also my algorithm is doing it because like I'm old. And so in middle age, like they say, you've got to eat more protein for muscle mass and blah, blah, blah.
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
But there is a massive, there's a massive hole in other macronutrients that are so vital. I remember when I was younger, like when I was like in my, when I was a teenager, I kind of never heard about protein and only heard about fiber, right? Like it was reversed, but like everything comes back around, right? And so I guess I'm going to ask you a question that I'm sure you hear all the time.
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
Like why is BioMe different than Metamucil?
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
Well, you know, it's funny you say that because I think that like for my diet, I seem to eat the same thing over and over again, right? So I'm only getting one source of fiber. Like I eat apples all the time and I eat, let's say asparagus, but I'm not eating as many of the rainbow color vegetables just because you're right, you're busy.
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
So in like, like for example, with something like this, bio meat, is there a difference between the different sources of fiber that you're getting from different fruits and vegetables or isn't fiber just fiber?
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
We had a whole podcast before the podcast. I know. I know. So much to say. So much to say. And this happens all the time. Usually some of the best information gets done before or after the podcast. So I'm like, stop. Don't talk anymore.
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
The soluble fiber helps with the absorption.
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
Okay. So that's interesting. So insoluble fat fiber is what helps you with constipation.
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
Okay. So, cause by the way, when people, every girl I know when they're traveling, especially, they're like constipated. It's, it's, it's, it's literally everybody.
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
I was going to say, maybe that's true. Let me, let me say something else. Everybody I know when they travel, they get constipated, especially on long flights. And it's like to find like a, so like to find something that is a natural way to
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
to poop after traveling as opposed to like, I mean, I don't know about you, but when I get off a plane and like days are going by, like my pants and my, my belly is like so extended. It's horrible.
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
It's very uncomfortable.
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
How long does it take to, like, activate? Like, when does someone take it? If you're traveling. If I'm going on a – if I'm traveling.
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
Okay.
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
That would be a good idea, actually. I think I'm going to like, I'm going to think about getting that, starting to do that. So let's start from like the beginning. I think the first thing I want to tell people is that Shannon was someone who worked on some of the biggest brands. Vital Proteins is one of them. And it was sold for, I think it was the biggest sale in like wellness products.
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
So what else, by the way, you were saying earlier about collagen is really good for your gut health. You said that collagen also helps you a lot with your gut health.
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
I never heard, I didn't know that.
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
Yeah, absolutely. Let's get back to the business side for a second, okay? Yeah. All right. So when you guys, you said earlier how you got the deal flow, right? When you have so many deals because people are looking for money, obviously, to grow their business.
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
And it's different depending on what stage of business you are, right? Like if you're in early stage versus when you were working, like, well, Starshot, which stage are you guys on?
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
Like do you look, are you, are you investing in early stage? Are you?
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
So when you get all this deal flow, what exactly are you looking for as people to invest in? So you said earlier about things that are like hot or emerging. Yeah. Do you find out what's hot and emerging by seeing the amount of the same thing being pitched to you all the time?
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
So that's consumer product packaging. That's like snacks and stuff like that.
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
An energy drink?
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
Right? In history.
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
So right now, what are some trending things that you're seeing a lot of?
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
So I want to talk about that because that's a great hero product to talk about, right?
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
Because I see… And by the way, I don't know if it's because I'm in that space or… of like wellness and longevity if it's just the things that I'm looking at or seeing because it's in my world? Or is that really what the trends are? Because I've seen differences. I pick up on those trends as well.
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
What I've seen in the last two years, the menopause, middle-age women's space has skyrocketed in terms of products, in terms of conversation. And it's become like a juggernaut, I guess in the... the finance industry. There's so much money in it now. The doctors who are talking about it are making a lot of money. They're becoming celebrities in their own way. Hormonal therapy is huge.
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
So all these telemedicine places that are hormone clinics are becoming massive. Peptides are huge. That's what I'm seeing a lot of.
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
So talk about in a very crowded space, right? The first thing is how does a brand, how does a product stick out when there is such... There's such competition. It's so crowded, especially in the health and wellness space. You have a bazillion supplements, a bazillion brands. How does someone create a brand that is... Like, how do you create a product and differentiation in a crowded market?
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
Well, if you want to know the truth, I actually think it's very dangerous because you're fucking with hormones, right? You're screwing with your hormones. And the problem is when something becomes very trendy and there's a lot of money that you can be made, that you can make in this area. Yeah. Thank you. Thank you.
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
Thank you. Thank you.
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
Thank you. Thank you.
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
Thank you.
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
That's great. So was Vital Proteins the first to start that bandwagon of collagen?
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
I agree with you. This is why I like doing this podcast with you because there's different verticals that we can cover that I think a lot of people can get from. Number one, how you took your career and went from being a PR manager to running global marketing for a massive brand. I think that's very inspirational for people who feel stuck in what they're doing.
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
And you're giving the message, the positive message that, you know what? Anything is possible. You work hard, you put yourself where opportunity is, and things will happen. Yeah. And it's not impossible, right? Like you've pivoted in your career from PR manager to global marketing head to now a founder of like a category or a company that like you're reinvigorating a very big area.
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
And I think that to me is very, the evolution of that and how you've done it. I think people are listening. What they should get from that is like, no, nothing is impossible. If you have an idea or a brand or, sorry, or a company or something that you want to like get into the world or bring to market, like there should be nothing stopping you, right? Like there's always a way to do it, right?
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
Like there's listening to podcasts, listening to how like what you got to find out, like what's big and what's kind of trendy, how to create a brand identity, right? How about packaging? How important is packaging for the brand?
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
I think it's really important because I love your packaging.
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
Right, right, right, right, right. No, it's exactly true.
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
So, yeah. Are there certain colors for packaging that work better than others? When you did all of your, right, when you did all of your kind of your, I guess your recon on how to kind of do this, what did you find in terms of packaging? Yeah.
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
Yeah, in the beauty world.
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
Well, isn't there, did you do any research on like color schemes that work, that don't work?
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
So give me some like actual tactile things. Besides, I mean, I love the fact that you had a vision of what you want, But I'm looking for like people who are listening and they're like, okay, I got to package this or that, the other. What are some things that you learned in the process of what colors work better than others?
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
on NSF certification, which means every single batch is tested for heavy metals, harmful additives, and label accuracy. And that's why they're trusted by all 32 NFL teams and top collegiate sports dietitians across the country. Here's the thing.
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
What about, okay. So in terms of when you guys are going through the deal flow, what, when do you, well, only because I want people to get like, yeah. So I want them to get like a good understanding of all these, these different things. Yeah. How do you, how does somebody raise money? When do they come to you, like a venture fund?
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
And when do you guys, like, what are the steps? Like, what do you guys decide besides, okay, you like the product? Are you looking for just sales? How much money they've spent? Like, give me like, in a shark tank moment, what are you guys looking for?
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
Like, that's what I was going to say. What is traditional?
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
I mean, like, yeah, like TV. I'm just trying to think of what people do. Traditional magazine articles, like things like that.
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
And then coming like for the future, do you see – where do you still see gaps in the market? From a product standpoint? From a product standpoint. Oh, goodness.
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
There's so many though. I mean, listen, like there's so many Me Too brands, like there's so many of everything, right? Like again, like no matter, I just, and then one just pops again and you're like, how did that happen? Like in the supplement, like Ritual crushed it.
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
You know, why? Is it because they have a see-through bottle? That's like the, that's the secret. Like why does some brands just like, totally click on Instagram and social media? Is it because it looks visually appealing on social media, right? Because if influencers want to talk about something that looks cool.
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
It's become a crazy situation. Totally. And let's like talk about this for a few minutes and we can, you know, wrap it. But it's like the micro-influencer versus the big mega-influencers because it's still my opinion. You get way more bang for your buck with a micro-influencer.
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
Right? Because their audience is very engaged. And by the way, they're seeing your posts.
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
The bigger you get, less people are seeing your stuff. Because meta, Instagram, they want to charge you, like the person... to boost the post so your audience actually sees your stuff. Yeah. I mean, I can't tell you how many people I see. They're like, oh, I'm going to follow you on Instagram. And I'm like, I give them my stuff. They're like, oh, I do follow you. That happens like a lot, right?
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
I think people only see a very small section of someone's stuff.
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
I find it very interesting. And I think that I've heard a lot of stories from different founders and CEOs of people who spend a lot of money, millions of dollars. So they're like, oh, we're getting this person who has 20 million followers. They're going to talk about our supplement. I'll tell you a story. Okay. One of these very big brands, these very big supplement brands.
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
They spent, yeah, they spent like $5 million on this girl who's very well known, who has, I think she has 19 million followers. And they were so excited. They're like, we're going to make our ROI. We're going to make our return on our investment for sure. She's going to post this many times. She's going to do this and this and this and that. And they paid her a ton.
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
They went way over the money they had, the budget. The girl, not only did it not perform, the performance was so minuscule. I think that it only converted into three or four bottles of the supplement. You're kidding.
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
It was horrible. Wow. And I think this happens more often than not. Invest your money in getting 20 really good micro-influencers, like 10,000 followers and under. Absolutely. And save yourself a lot of money.
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
A hundred percent. I think because a lot of times people who are making the decisions on who to use as the influencers to promote their brand or whatever, aren't the people who are spending the money, right? They are outside agencies who just have a, they have a job and they have like a mandate, find me four people who are wellness and they're not watching the content.
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
So what is the strategy? So let's say Kurt creates Vital Proteins. He comes to you guys because he needs money. How far was he along before you guys came on board to help him grow it?
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
They're not looking at the engagement. And so it can be a problem, right? And it doesn't match. Like It's very interesting to me how when I see it, you want people who are very vulnerable and very authentic, and it's very hard to find. By the way, it's very hard to do that on social media. It's very difficult. Super difficult.
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
Super difficult.
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
you're talking to like a camera.
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
It's so, it's so hard. So, and I guess it's also, yeah, like those are just like little things that I've picked up on from my experiences in business and stuff like that. No, I mean, you're spot on with that.
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
Absolutely. The other thing is find people who actually are using your product authentically or who actually has a need for the product. Yes. Because I find that if you're giving it to someone who doesn't have a need for it or like it or care about it,
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
100% agree with you. Yeah. Okay. Well, I'll let you go now because I've had you here for God knows how long. Sorry, Ed. Poor Ed. He has to sit here and listen to all of this stuff. But okay. Shannon, you are Shannon Race. Like I said, you guys, she's a co-founder of BioMe. Thank you for coming on here.
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
And this was very helpful. I got some information on fiber and gut and I got some information on venture side. It was a nice like smorgasbord of information. And by the way, you know what we forgot to do on this podcast, which I don't know how we forgot because it was sitting right here. Because normally what I do is I do these like magic mind shots on the show.
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
Yeah, because I've had like literally like five. I keep on saying that, but I- You had five today?
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
This is what I do. My normal routine in the morning is I have one before I work out. And then the days I have a podcast, I like end up doing like one. If I have two or three podcasts a day, then I'm having like, you know, so I can't have them. I can't have four. The founder told me don't have more than two, Jen. And meanwhile, I have like three usually.
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
Okay, have one. It's delicious. Have you ever had one? Oh, you told me you've had one.
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
Usually these things taste terrible, but these are very, very tasty. And the ingredients, talk about ingredients being clean. Very good. They're very good. You guys shoot it all back.
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
No, no, no. It's good though. It has a lot of like ashwagandha. It's got a lot of good things in it, but it does help with the focus. However, we just finished the podcast. So maybe you'll be focused the rest of the day.
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
Good. Well, then I'm glad we did at the end, not the beginning. So thank you. All right, so guys, check out... Well, Shannon, are you on Instagram even?
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
I was going to say, aren't you private on Instagram?
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
Yeah, so don't forget. Check out BioMe.
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
If you travel... Don't forget to take BioMe. If you have any kind of gut issue, you need to kind of clean up your gut, BioMe is great. Don't forget to eat your fruits and veggies. And like I said, if you're constipated, sorry, but it's true. Yeah. Try BioMe.
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
Yeah. Bye. Thank you. Oh, by the way, more thing. Guys, I keep on forgetting to say this. Please, please, please leave me comments. Please subscribe if you haven't. It makes a massive difference. I never, ever talk about it, but I always forget, not because of any other reason, but comments really help me know what you guys want to hear about, what you like, what you don't like.
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So please don't be shy. Leave a comment and have a good day. Bye.
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They don't sell every supplement under the sun because they believe in nailing the basics with rock-solid consistency, and those basics are protein and creatine. Momentous sources Creapure, the purest form of creatine monohydrate available, an absolute must for both men and women who want peak physical and cognitive performance. So if you're serious about leveling up,
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
Well, that's the thing, right? I feel like that's the game now. That's why the wellness brands like AG1, they spend a ton of money. Tons. Probably the most.
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
I don't know, but that, okay. So tell people that, so that's interesting, right? Because then if you are just an online brand, right? You don't have to do going into brick and mortars.
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
Well, tell us the difference. Say, why would somebody stay on, do a business only online versus what's the benefits of being a business online versus going into brick and mortar?
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
Well, I mean, because now, isn't it just all about like the influencer marketing? Like every brand that does very well spends a lot of money on social media. Like it's no longer the traditional way. But what was interesting about Vital Proteins is that they spent a lot of money on getting Jennifer Aniston as a spokesperson.
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
Okay, tell me the story because I'm like, why would a brand like that spend – like, obviously, I didn't know what I was taught. I'm like, how much did you guys pay her? Like, in the 20 million, 50 million?
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
Wow. You went from PR manager to the head of global marketing for Vital Proteins.
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
That's a big jump.
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
And a totally different area too. I mean, they're sisters, but not.
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
Like, how did it happen?
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
Go to LiveMomentous.com and use code Jen for 20% off. Just act now. Start today. Jen for 20% off. LiveMomentous.com. Hi, everybody. Hello. Hello, Shannon. We have you as a guest. We have a great guest, you guys, today. If you're somebody who is an entrepreneur, has a great idea for a business, or has a startup, this is the podcast you should be listening to.
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
Well, how did it happen? Like how did it come full circle? You missed the best part.
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
She uses it, right? How did you convince her to come on board? And why was like, because you said yourself, most celebrity endorsements don't really work that well. You're spending a lot of money on a lot of like nonsense. But for whatever reason, she's one of those celebrities that really moves the needle.
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
What was the deal though? Like give me the details of what the deal would be.
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
Well, besides Aveeno and Smart Water, I think Vital Proteins.
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
You're right. But did you see the sales skyrocket once Jennifer was on board?
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
And I was like, good, we did our job.
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
You're going to milk it for whatever, for everything.
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
Was it a year? Is it like a multi-year deal?
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
Wow. Did she own a piece of the company? Was that part of the deal too?
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Episode 425: Shannon Race: Secrets to Standing Out in Saturated Markets + Branding and Marketing Insights
Right. Yeah. Did you try doing any other celebrity endorsements because that one was successful or?
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Episode 407: Michael Chernow: How to Build a Lasting Marriage, Break Free from Addiction + Why Morning Routines Matter
Is that what you guys do? You have like a time of day?
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Episode 407: Michael Chernow: How to Build a Lasting Marriage, Break Free from Addiction + Why Morning Routines Matter
What did you wake up in the morning now?
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Episode 407: Michael Chernow: How to Build a Lasting Marriage, Break Free from Addiction + Why Morning Routines Matter
Okay, kids wake up early though too now.
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Episode 407: Michael Chernow: How to Build a Lasting Marriage, Break Free from Addiction + Why Morning Routines Matter
I don't know. It depends on what you're going to say. Shit. Full of shit on that one. It is not full of shit. If you remember correctly, it was the same guy that did your podcast who filmed that. Remember, Mike, my normal person was not available. Yeah. And we had to use that guy that you used on your podcast who also didn't do the colors well.
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Episode 407: Michael Chernow: How to Build a Lasting Marriage, Break Free from Addiction + Why Morning Routines Matter
So wait, let's just stick with the relationship and then I want to get to the routine. Because the routine is a really good piece of like your routine. I love it. And so I don't want to like, I don't want to like kind of just like go, you know, pass by it. That's a whole other section of this podcast, in my opinion.
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Episode 407: Michael Chernow: How to Build a Lasting Marriage, Break Free from Addiction + Why Morning Routines Matter
So then you're saying if you have sex at least once a week, even if it's like routine, like you just said, like beep, beep, beep, you feel that that at least keeps you in a connecting place. And it's very, very important. Is that your...
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Episode 407: Michael Chernow: How to Build a Lasting Marriage, Break Free from Addiction + Why Morning Routines Matter
And you're not talking about it.
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Episode 407: Michael Chernow: How to Build a Lasting Marriage, Break Free from Addiction + Why Morning Routines Matter
It's like the elephant in the room.
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Episode 407: Michael Chernow: How to Build a Lasting Marriage, Break Free from Addiction + Why Morning Routines Matter
And you're taking the initiative. I think that what you said earlier was actually another thing that we should highlight, right? Which is when you get in a rut where you don't do it, you know the importance of what it means if you don't, like where that rabbit hole takes you, not to good places, like more of a disconnect.
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Episode 407: Michael Chernow: How to Build a Lasting Marriage, Break Free from Addiction + Why Morning Routines Matter
So even though if it may feel forced, it's still for the better good of the relationship, right? Because I believe you and I agree with you, like Anything can become a routine. Like once you start doing something all the time, that's your routine. Once you stop doing something, that becomes your routine. So it's pick your routine, pick the thing that you're going to do.
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Episode 407: Michael Chernow: How to Build a Lasting Marriage, Break Free from Addiction + Why Morning Routines Matter
Because once you stop, then it's very easy just to kind of go down that path.
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Episode 407: Michael Chernow: How to Build a Lasting Marriage, Break Free from Addiction + Why Morning Routines Matter
And the color correction was... You know, we can point fingers all day here, Jen. But...
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Episode 407: Michael Chernow: How to Build a Lasting Marriage, Break Free from Addiction + Why Morning Routines Matter
So they're lonely and they are like, it breeds more loneliness.
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Episode 407: Michael Chernow: How to Build a Lasting Marriage, Break Free from Addiction + Why Morning Routines Matter
Are you sure about that? It seems like you are.
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Episode 407: Michael Chernow: How to Build a Lasting Marriage, Break Free from Addiction + Why Morning Routines Matter
Yeah, I was going to say, Michael has like a million things he's like a professional expert on. Maybe you should become like a licensed therapist.
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Episode 407: Michael Chernow: How to Build a Lasting Marriage, Break Free from Addiction + Why Morning Routines Matter
Okay, hold on. I want to put you on video. I'm going to take a little social media video. What did you say, Michael?
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Episode 407: Michael Chernow: How to Build a Lasting Marriage, Break Free from Addiction + Why Morning Routines Matter
Why? How much running is there?
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Episode 407: Michael Chernow: How to Build a Lasting Marriage, Break Free from Addiction + Why Morning Routines Matter
How much running? I run already.
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Episode 407: Michael Chernow: How to Build a Lasting Marriage, Break Free from Addiction + Why Morning Routines Matter
Four miles?
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Episode 407: Michael Chernow: How to Build a Lasting Marriage, Break Free from Addiction + Why Morning Routines Matter
So why is everyone so afraid to face their fear if on the other side is freedom? Because the truth is, you're right. Like whenever I've been the most fearful and I've done that thing, I felt so much better. I felt like a weight has been lifted off of my shoulders. And we all know that because we've all been in a place where we had to kind of confront something at some point.
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Episode 407: Michael Chernow: How to Build a Lasting Marriage, Break Free from Addiction + Why Morning Routines Matter
But yet that's not enough to make us continue to face the fear. We'll do anything possible and everything possible to not face any kind of adversity or fear.
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Episode 407: Michael Chernow: How to Build a Lasting Marriage, Break Free from Addiction + Why Morning Routines Matter
Who was it?
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Episode 407: Michael Chernow: How to Build a Lasting Marriage, Break Free from Addiction + Why Morning Routines Matter
Start that again. So commitment.
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Episode 407: Michael Chernow: How to Build a Lasting Marriage, Break Free from Addiction + Why Morning Routines Matter
Can you give me an example? What do you mean by commitment? I always think that the three C's for me are a little bit different. I think competence, you know, breeds confidence.
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Episode 407: Michael Chernow: How to Build a Lasting Marriage, Break Free from Addiction + Why Morning Routines Matter
So like commitment is what... Commitment's more like your commitment to whatever that thing is.
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Episode 407: Michael Chernow: How to Build a Lasting Marriage, Break Free from Addiction + Why Morning Routines Matter
Mm-hmm.
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Episode 407: Michael Chernow: How to Build a Lasting Marriage, Break Free from Addiction + Why Morning Routines Matter
That's great. And I'm going to clip that because that was a really beautiful soliloquy. And I think it's... This is why you and I click because I wholeheartedly believe that to be 100% true. You can transform your life if you take control of your life by...
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Episode 407: Michael Chernow: How to Build a Lasting Marriage, Break Free from Addiction + Why Morning Routines Matter
Isn't it good? Nice floral citrusy.
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Episode 407: Michael Chernow: How to Build a Lasting Marriage, Break Free from Addiction + Why Morning Routines Matter
actually through fitness, through nutrition, because physically being, becoming physically strong makes you mentally tough and makes you mentally strong. And that becomes a vicious cycle. And the more mentally, mentally strong you are, that breeds confidence, right?
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Episode 407: Michael Chernow: How to Build a Lasting Marriage, Break Free from Addiction + Why Morning Routines Matter
Because you feel and know that you have the capacity and you are capable of doing hard things, which of course then helps you with another building block of confidence. And all these other little pieces fall into place because you know yourself that you're competent, capable, confident, do hard things. And I think that did change the trajectory of my life a hundred thousand percent.
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Episode 407: Michael Chernow: How to Build a Lasting Marriage, Break Free from Addiction + Why Morning Routines Matter
Yeah, it's a good one. It's a good one. All right, let's go. All right. Now you're going to be super sharp. I am. All right. I'm not, but that's besides the point. I've had five of those already today. Wow. Yeah, not five. I've had two. And I think two is enough. I think having more than two is kind of- I just thought that's my second. Overkill. Yeah, but I'm also drinking coffee.
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Episode 407: Michael Chernow: How to Build a Lasting Marriage, Break Free from Addiction + Why Morning Routines Matter
And so people are focusing on the wrong things. They're focusing on like that guy calling them or that girl not calling them back. And like all this ancillary superficial bullshit, that means nothing to in terms of like actual happiness or satisfaction or fulfillment. Because you can't get there unless you have the first part taken care of.
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Episode 407: Michael Chernow: How to Build a Lasting Marriage, Break Free from Addiction + Why Morning Routines Matter
And that's why when you say commitment, I understand now. Because you made the commitment to go through that fitness regimen, that nutrition regimen. Like you were so committed that that's what drove you to the next step.
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Episode 407: Michael Chernow: How to Build a Lasting Marriage, Break Free from Addiction + Why Morning Routines Matter
Everybody.
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Episode 407: Michael Chernow: How to Build a Lasting Marriage, Break Free from Addiction + Why Morning Routines Matter
situation yeah it sucks for everyone so if you're sitting there thinking oh man like yeah like like it's easy for them to say it wasn't easy when i started you know everybody for anybody when they start right the next question people are going to say though is well how long how long does it take where it becomes in such a habitual thing where if you don't do it it feels weird
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Episode 407: Michael Chernow: How to Build a Lasting Marriage, Break Free from Addiction + Why Morning Routines Matter
Yeah, totally true. I love when people give analogies like that because it puts things in such a great perspective, right? And I think that is so true. And then how did you evolve your stuff? Because, okay, so you were obviously, you've been sober for a bit. I can't even believe that you were ever a drug addict. It's like so insane to me knowing how you live your life now. It's like beyond.
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Episode 407: Michael Chernow: How to Build a Lasting Marriage, Break Free from Addiction + Why Morning Routines Matter
And I'm also, because this is my fifth podcast today. Yeah, I don't normally do that many, but I make an exception when you come to town.
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Episode 407: Michael Chernow: How to Build a Lasting Marriage, Break Free from Addiction + Why Morning Routines Matter
How were you able to be a drug addict and become such an expert? Let me just give people a little bit because I teased Michael a bunch.
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Episode 407: Michael Chernow: How to Build a Lasting Marriage, Break Free from Addiction + Why Morning Routines Matter
I see that. I feel like when you're tired also, your inhibitions are a little bit less. So like you'll say things more freely. You don't give a shit as much.
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Episode 407: Michael Chernow: How to Build a Lasting Marriage, Break Free from Addiction + Why Morning Routines Matter
I do. Right this second?
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Episode 407: Michael Chernow: How to Build a Lasting Marriage, Break Free from Addiction + Why Morning Routines Matter
Like this moment.
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Episode 407: Michael Chernow: How to Build a Lasting Marriage, Break Free from Addiction + Why Morning Routines Matter
Wow. Thank you. You mean when you walked into my house or just right now as I'm sitting in this chair?
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Episode 407: Michael Chernow: How to Build a Lasting Marriage, Break Free from Addiction + Why Morning Routines Matter
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Episode 407: Michael Chernow: How to Build a Lasting Marriage, Break Free from Addiction + Why Morning Routines Matter
Thank you. That's so, coming from you, who is the fittest. We're playing footsie. No, are we hitting on each other?
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Episode 407: Michael Chernow: How to Build a Lasting Marriage, Break Free from Addiction + Why Morning Routines Matter
If I didn't know any better, no, I'm joking. Coming from you, that's a very big compliment because you know how I feel. Michael, by the way, not to like make everyone vomit on this podcast because of the compliments back and forth, but Michael really is the fittest person you've ever seen in your life. He has like a 12 pack.
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Episode 407: Michael Chernow: How to Build a Lasting Marriage, Break Free from Addiction + Why Morning Routines Matter
Yeah. And he has amazing style. And if he was single, I'm telling you, I would be basically throwing you out to every single lady possible because you're so cute. He's very happily married. So back off, ladies.
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Episode 407: Michael Chernow: How to Build a Lasting Marriage, Break Free from Addiction + Why Morning Routines Matter
Really?
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Episode 407: Michael Chernow: How to Build a Lasting Marriage, Break Free from Addiction + Why Morning Routines Matter
I think it is. But you just posted that just now?
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Episode 407: Michael Chernow: How to Build a Lasting Marriage, Break Free from Addiction + Why Morning Routines Matter
Okay. Why? Why did you post that?
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Episode 407: Michael Chernow: How to Build a Lasting Marriage, Break Free from Addiction + Why Morning Routines Matter
What's the routine?
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Episode 407: Michael Chernow: How to Build a Lasting Marriage, Break Free from Addiction + Why Morning Routines Matter
The family does.
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Episode 407: Michael Chernow: How to Build a Lasting Marriage, Break Free from Addiction + Why Morning Routines Matter
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Episode 407: Michael Chernow: How to Build a Lasting Marriage, Break Free from Addiction + Why Morning Routines Matter
He's coming on my podcast.
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Episode 407: Michael Chernow: How to Build a Lasting Marriage, Break Free from Addiction + Why Morning Routines Matter
James something or another. And Jordan Harbinger, what a weird coincidence. Jordan Harbinger just texted me.
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Episode 407: Michael Chernow: How to Build a Lasting Marriage, Break Free from Addiction + Why Morning Routines Matter
I'm going to tell him you said that. Interestingly enough, that guy, James, is coming on my podcast. Jordan is a very close friend of mine. That James guy, I reached out to him. We're coordinating it as we speak.
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Episode 407: Michael Chernow: How to Build a Lasting Marriage, Break Free from Addiction + Why Morning Routines Matter
This is so great. Number one, I was not expecting you to delve right into that stuff. Like, I thought we would talk about this, that, the other thing. But I love that we're talking about this because I think you have a really nice perspective on it and passion around it. And I think this is very helpful for people. Because the truth of the matter is, like, it's been in my vortex a lot.
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Episode 407: Michael Chernow: How to Build a Lasting Marriage, Break Free from Addiction + Why Morning Routines Matter
Like, relationships, marriage. Ah. what makes a successful relationship, what makes a successful marriage. And it's really hard. And so most of them, like the lawyer said, they fail, especially in places where we are. I live in LA, obviously. You live in New York, but you don't live in New York properly. You don't live in Manhattan. You live on the outskirts, right?
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Episode 407: Michael Chernow: How to Build a Lasting Marriage, Break Free from Addiction + Why Morning Routines Matter
And I think you need to be very, not you, everybody, but you have to be very cognizant and intentional of how you have a relationship just as you would of how you want your career to go. And I think you're right. People do end up forgetting. or prioritizing and taking for granted because it's just available and it's done, right? Like the goal is, oh, let's get married and have a kid.
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Episode 407: Michael Chernow: How to Build a Lasting Marriage, Break Free from Addiction + Why Morning Routines Matter
Okay, well, then you have that. And it's like, okay, you don't date your partner anymore. Dating becomes very frivolous. Like you don't do it anymore. You do it before you get married, right? And so they always say like, you have to like, don't freak, like you still need to date your partner even when you get married, even more important, right?
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Episode 407: Michael Chernow: How to Build a Lasting Marriage, Break Free from Addiction + Why Morning Routines Matter
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Episode 407: Michael Chernow: How to Build a Lasting Marriage, Break Free from Addiction + Why Morning Routines Matter
So can you give me a couple other things that you do routine-wise to kind of keep the fire and keep the marriage intact? Yeah. Because that's a really smart one, the hand situation, the connecting thing or like hugging or touching. Because you're right, like I think people, one sits on one side of the couch and the other sits on the other. And then you go to bed.
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Episode 407: Michael Chernow: How to Build a Lasting Marriage, Break Free from Addiction + Why Morning Routines Matter
Yeah.
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Episode 407: Michael Chernow: How to Build a Lasting Marriage, Break Free from Addiction + Why Morning Routines Matter
Most, I mean, sometimes. I mean, yeah, but you're right. Exactly. I mean. It does die out.
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Episode 407: Michael Chernow: How to Build a Lasting Marriage, Break Free from Addiction + Why Morning Routines Matter
By the way, this is like take 10 with Michael Chernow, who is my very dear friend. The first time we tried to do this podcast, the lighting was bad and the sound, so we couldn't post it. He thinks I'm like full of hot air, but it's actually true.
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
How about regular people who are not athletes?
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
Then how do you help somebody break free from that, like their limited belief? Like what if they don't know it themselves? Like what's the process? Can you walk me through what like the process is to even begin really knowing what's in your subconscious mind?
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
But I've seen some of the work you've done and the things that you talk about, and it's so compelling. Yeah.
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
Wow.
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
But how do you know that? Like if someone, how do you even get into that subconscious? Do you hypnotize them? Is that a way to do it?
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
There's buckets.
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
Thank you.
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
You're welcome. And that, so I wanted to have you on because there's a few little things that I've, I, I caught through social media that like really resonated. And I think my audience will find everything in your work, what you do. Very interesting. Okay. So just like, I never really, like I said, read these things, but just so people can, yeah, just for shits and giggles. Exactly.
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
So ego-threatening is what? How do you define that?
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
Right.
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
Very much so.
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
It must be hard. I mean, I think it's, I would imagine, the reverse engineering of it and making people see things they don't. Don't people easily just revert back to how they were? It's easy to do that.
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
Right. We want to convince ourselves that what we think is actually true. Is that why what the words we say are so important?
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
Okay, it says here, you're a mindset coach, speaker and writer known for your work as a well in personal development, performance optimization and spiritual well being. You're referred to as the mind architect and focuses on helping individuals, athletes, business leaders break free from mental and emotional limitations and reach their full potential. Does that like kind of?
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
Yes. Yeah.
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
I was told the other day something like, even if you're saying something in jest or joking, like, you know, oh God, I'm so dumb because I forgot that. Like your brain doesn't have a sense of humor. So they don't know you're joking if you say the word, I'm so dumb, haha. They just think in that word, I'm so dumb, or just becomes the loop.
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
Right. Oh God. See, this is where I get, I got to really pay attention.
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
So say that again.
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
This is not that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Exactly. I got to really laser focus.
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
Yep.
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
Yes. I'm following you. Yes.
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
Right. So you can't change the foundation. No.
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
Right. And so in your work, you can actually take away that ideology at a foundational level.
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
How? Like you're in a mastermind. I like to know the nitty gritty.
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
It's the attention. Because I feel like, especially on this podcast or like in my life, I'm sure with you too, like you meet a lot of different people, experts in this and experts in that. And they give you this very panoramic, big, you know, overarching ideologies. Yeah. But in real life, it's really hard to kind of act, you know, conceptual.
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
Me too. That's why you're here. I wanted to meet that guy. First, let's start with why do you call yourself or who calls you a mind architect and what is that?
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
I understand what you mean. And so it all stems from an experience or a time in your childhood that you're acting out in adulthood, I guess.
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
Do you notice, are there specific patterns that you see over and over again?
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
Okay, what are they then?
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
Right, right.
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
So then how does that even stop, like, but you were saying even earlier, even with Kobe, for example.
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
He became really successful because of a chip on his shoulder that he had to prove, you know, he had to prove that he's not, that he is enough, right? That's what I see all the time, too. I think that's a, that whole thing, if you really, when I talk to a lot of people, that's kind of, when you peel back the layers, that's really what kind of motivates a lot of people, right? Yeah.
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
Well, you said something, hold on, I want to like, hold on, I'm going to open this thing up.
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
Yeah, that I haven't even looked at. Okay, so like I want to, there was a line, something like, you know, you help people go from where they are to where they think they should be.
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
Like, because I think that where we think, like where we think we should be versus where we actually are is why people get so frustrated and depressed and upset because they always think they should have had a different life that they have right now.
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
That's, I think, what social media has done, though, too, right?
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Right.
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
Oh my God. By the way, am I the only person who talks to you that has to like really listen intently to like, it's not just me.
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
Cause it's like, cause you're talking, the way you speak about these things, it's like, you have to pay attention. You can't just like, you can't just like, Just shoot the breeze and talk about what you had at Chipotle. Yeah, exactly. Like thinking about my errands for later.
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
I have to be because it's like you're taking it back. But I feel like that's what we do, right? Like no one seems to be happy with where they are. They're always seeking for betterment. Like that's what personal growth really is though, right? Like you want to go from where you are to a better version of yourself to a better version of yourself.
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
Should people get high before they listen to this episode? I don't know if that will help, possibly. I think so, because I feel like they can really focus on this.
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
To really get it. But it makes perfect sense. But it's just like, you're saying it so matter-of-factly.
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
No, it's 100% true. See, I think what I notice, even with myself, it's not that I don't know. People, I think, intellectually or just whatever, they know what they need to eat. They know what they have to do. But it's in the execution that everything falls apart, right? Because life or they rationalize it or these blind spots. And so like how, that to me is what the most interesting thing is.
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
predominantly in the mind being as that's the interface between you know our unmanifest self and manifest self so like how did you get into this because i like you talk about a lot about the subconscious and how like we have our limiting beliefs and what we thought of our like it's so deep rooted and that and then we act and our behavior is based on these ideas and thoughts of ourselves that we're not even aware of correct yeah right yeah but you're not a psychologist are you
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
It's like, you can see my blind spots, right? I can see your blind spot. If I spent like time with you, like, you know, I would come back and be like, oh, he has this, this, this, and this is his blind spot. Because, you know, I'm a very, then this is probably, you know, I'm hyper, I think I'm observant and critical. I'm very critical.
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
But does that mean if I'm a critical person that really I'm critical of myself?
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
And I'm just, you're just mirroring whatever it is that,
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
Interesting.
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
Yeah, but only with myself. I'm not a perfectionist.
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
But I notice everybody's idiosyncrasies. I notice everything, like how someone uses their hands and twitches their foot or how they're looking at me or if they're nodding and what they're thinking. My brain is constantly in a loop of that.
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
Control, probably.
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
So how do you walk through life then? Are you perfect now?
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
Yeah, right.
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
That's okay. Yeah. That's a great place to be.
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Right.
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
You're pretty chill about that. It's true because you seemed pretty chill when you walked in here. Much more chill than I thought you were going to be. But then again, I barely know you. Because you were telling me about the buckets for women, where the patterns are. What are the buckets and patterns for men that you see a lot?
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
So how do you work with someone like that to kind of get over the need to outperform?
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
Okay. Well, and the funny thing is most of the people I know who do have that certificate, like are the ones who are the most screwed up.
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
Yeah. It sounds like you do a lot of reframing and self-talk. Yeah.
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
So what is your background and how did you evolve into being this person that people go to, to kind of get, I guess, like tap into that subconscious? Yeah.
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
You know, that now it reminds me of a video I saw that I think was what came up on my feed that you did. Okay. Which was about like love and falling in love.
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
Because it was so, that to me, it was like, it was so, the way it was worded was very interesting.
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
super uber loving guy doesn't mean i want to spend the rest of my life with everybody but i'm still the source of my love well yeah i think the way it was worded or something was something to the effect that it's not that you were in love with him yes is that you were in love with the way it made you feel the version of you that you became through and with him yeah
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
Right, so you're saying that when we start putting things on the external only, we can't define ourselves or our happiness or sadness based on what's outside.
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
Right.
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
Freedom. Because everyone wants to feel freedom.
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
Right. It's basically like a loop. It's an exhausting loop.
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
Because I think also it's like your behavior is a product of what your subconscious thinks. Yes. You're not just acting willy-nilly.
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
Is this like frequency and vibrate?
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
So how can you change, and how does someone change that frequency or that energy?
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
Amazing.
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
What's another prison that you have?
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
I'm not lovable? I'm not loved?
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
So what would be the shadow of that?
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
I'm not liked I'm hated or I'm not lovable.
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
Oh, I'm not wanted. Okay.
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
on NSF certification, which means every single batch is tested for heavy metals, harmful additives, and label accuracy. And that's why they're trusted by all 32 NFL teams and top collegiate sports dieticians across the country. Here's the thing. They don't sell every supplement under the sun because they believe in nailing the basics with rock solid consistency.
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
Because especially what's going on with everything now, it's madness. And so these things, that's why it's super dangerous of what's happening in our world right now, right? Because it could be something as primal as like a comment and so subtle and no one's even thinking about that stuff.
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
Is there an age where these things are really kind of implanted so deeply? Or like, if can you, like, for example, like seven and under is when these things really become super impactful or...
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
So when you had your, so for you, for example, and you had your mom die and you had your father die at such a young age, what was your story? Was that like, I'm alone, I'm...
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
Right, you went overboard.
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
So then how did you course correct?
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
Right.
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
So you do all these live programs, basically?
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
They are. I love this. Come, come to one. When's the next one? March 20th. And do a lot of like, where is it? Where is it at here?
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
And so do you spend the entire time, so you give them some theory?
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
Undo it. I'm curious. I'm sure there are people who are listening who may be turning 50 or 40. And I feel like relationships is a biggie, right?
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
Because I think it's harder and harder for people to meet people here. Yes. Not just in life. Yes. And with everything, with apps, social media, now AI. Yeah. There's so many people that I think loneliness has become a massive, I think that's the real problem.
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
Where did you go to college? Back in London?
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Yeah.
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Is that, that's interesting.
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
I do get that.
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
So what was it if it wasn't the 50? And if it wasn't the fact that she hasn't had a lot of relationships, what was the reason why she was saying that in the first place?
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
Are you serious?
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
Well, I totally agree, but this is why I said it earlier about the psychologists, right? I find a lot of times people are not comfortable of just being authentic. The word authentic is thrown around all the time. Authenticity, all these things. It's great hashtags, but the truth is nobody's really comfortable in just being who they are.
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
Being completely honest.
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
Just being different because different is not, for whatever reason, it's not accepted. People think it's not accepted. But the truth is, I think the more different you are, the more actually you're more likable, not less likable.
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
all of it is becoming worse and worse because social media, comparing yourself to some other life that doesn't even actually really even exist. And people are using these all and they're becoming worse. And even though going on social media is why they're depressed, they can't seem to take themselves off because they need it as a distraction away from their own life.
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
I mean, I'm going to actually listen to this podcast myself to make sure I understand. So I can like, you know, get like the whole thing. So when you, I just want to go back to you for a second. Sure. Because when you did that movie, Heal, the documentary.
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
So what was that? What were you considering? What kind of expert were you in that?
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Yeah.
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A meat suit, did you call it?
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Were you a tennis player?
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
So then they have to stop doing certain behaviors and saying certain things to themselves.
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Don't do that. Right.
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
And that's why willpower is that never works anyway. It's a muscle that will get tired.
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
Do you believe in like that? I said it earlier, like hypnosis or breath work or any type of like, how about like psychedelics to get you into that place in your head?
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
It's hard.
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Yeah, no kidding.
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Yes, I know all about it.
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
And so, yeah, I do understand.
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
So in this new dimension, but how many of the people that you work with fall back into old patterns, old routines?
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
Okay, I have a friend, oh my God, a couple weeks ago, I was out for dinner, and I'm like, I gotta go, I have to put my kids to bed. And he told me this whole big thing about how he has this spiritual advisor who said to him that he, and then he relates to me, he's like, oh no, Jennifer, you can't say you have to put your kids to bed. You have to say, I get to put my kids together.
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
I'm like, so like this language, I find like it all sounds dandy and fine, but it feels very contrived and weird.
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
So I'm like, okay, well, I got to leave because I get to put my children to bed or whatever.
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
It's like a whole different language that you have to learn.
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
Well, he's embodying it, but when he says it to me, it feels very...
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
And also now I just mock him. I'm like, every time he calls me, I'm like, oh... I get to. I get to do the chores I have to do.
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
Yeah, I get to do the dishes.
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
Okay. You look amazing. You're 55? Yeah. What are you? Okay. That's a whole other podcast altogether.
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
I know. I guess like you don't know me at all. I understand that. But like I laugh about a lot of people who, and maybe that you're going to say because I'm overly critical perhaps, but about manifestation. Like I'm manifesting this.
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
Yeah, the spiritual world of woo-woo.
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
Yeah, woo-woo. And I'm like the anti-woo-woo.
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
Yes, you're super practical. I'm super practical. Yeah, same. I'm a Virgo. I'm a Virgo too.
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
When's your birthday?
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September 10th.
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september 16th okay so yeah i'm a for and i like things that are like you know practical yeah like yeah i'm not gonna like just think myself into getting what i want you know i'm gonna chase what i want yes and then so then the manifestation people like you don't chase you wait you you hold space and it comes to you but so for me it's always both Okay, so how does it work?
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
You do not look 55.
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
Yes, and I believe in that.
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
That's amazing. You look much younger.
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Right, right. So you think it's a combination of both.
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
Yeah, that's, okay, I want to get into all that stuff later because it's really incredible that you've obviously maintained your youth very well. So then you've been here for like many years, like 25 years or so, 30 years. Yeah, yeah. So you were like in movies and like you were helping people.
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
But like, because you seem very much, because I was actually very nervous, but I started this podcast by saying I was a little nervous because before I met you, because I thought you were going to be way more woo-woo.
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
You're like, you seem to be like very much...
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Yes, 100% agree.
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It really is.
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
But why is that? Because she let go of all the-
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Right. So it manifests physically.
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
Yeah, it's a continuum. I would agree with that for sure.
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I understand because my background is fitness and like we start, like if you start doing things physically, it does make a big difference in the mental performance, like mental strength, physical strength. It's all kind of. Absolutely.
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That's physics. Hold on. I think I have another question. Just want to make sure before I... Hold on a minute because I don't want to... I mean, that's where Wayne Dyer had a great quote.
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I love that. Yeah.
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It's because you have a new view.
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I like that. It's so true. It is so true.
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Really?
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Right, right, right, right.
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She changes the pattern herself because she's otherwise living it over and over again until you learn it for yourself.
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But you follow yourself wherever you go.
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Seeing is believing.
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I love your wordsmithing or your analogies or your word stuff.
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Because it's not what I normally talk about, right? And I have to just kind of pay attention. I can't just interject with something because it's...
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
cash this one in and just yeah i cannot i cannot cash this one i gotta be like well good i'm glad that you're on your your a game i i have to be i mean it's a lot it's a lot yeah i because i know you um like i'm trying to think of some what do people ask you about like layman's people like me that what's the most common question that they would ask you
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Give me one question in each that they ask the most.
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Okay, you don't, this is great. I was called for Tom Cruise many, many years ago, but are you a Scientologist?
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It's much easier.
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Because he was only hiring it at some point, like only Scientologist.
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
Right. Is that always, though, the way it is?
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
Jesus. I mean, I'm telling you, I need a hard drink after I speak to you. I don't even drink. Does everybody say this to you? Like, who are you friends with? Like, who are your friends? Are your friends like you?
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
So wait, so what movies did you do for him?
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
But do you have most of your friends that you hang out with, do they think at your level of closeness?
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
Okay, I want to know. By the way, Mission Impossible is my favorite movie of all time. All of them. The whole series.
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
So you're not even, you can't even say create because that means that you're thinking that you don't have the, it's not there in the first place.
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
exactly well that's the thing like i'm thinking like okay what am i doing to my like what am i doing in my life that's holding me back that i'm not even aware of yes yeah right yeah and you will be and that's okay you're human right and like where am i blind like i think that oh i'm so so i think oh my eq is so great like oh but i know my blind spots but as i'm talking to you i'm like i bet you there's so many things that i have no idea i'm a total mess
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
A total mess.
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
And I don't even know it. I was feeling great before Peter Crane.
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
I was, I felt, I was super confident.
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
Yeah.
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
Yeah. I think a lot of people would probably fit into that bucket. I think you're right. I think we put a lot of pressure on ourselves.
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
No, but you're right. I've done a thing on, first of all, just to kind of let you know, I have a 50-50 split, like a lot of my audience is men. Okay, cool. So that's the first thing. But I was going to say, I've done other people's podcasts, not on this podcast so much, where I talk about that. Yeah. Where I find that a lot of times if you're a strong woman or you're successful,
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
But I think that a lot of women are single who are very successful because they, unfortunately, they're either too much in that masculine energy, but they don't see that, right? And then they put on this facade like, oh, I don't need a man or I don't want a man. And that becomes their playbook. That becomes their talk, right? And the guy that they actually want, want a girl who's more feminine and
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
And so it becomes this very, very difficult dance that happens.
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
But like, to me, that's like that. I think that's what happens, unfortunately.
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
You know, it becomes competitive.
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
Totally.
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
That's why people who are like, for women anyway, you need to have a guy who's like super, like truly confident, who is truly like, it's like that they're not intimidated by you, that they're not like, they don't feel like you're emasculating them because of your
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
But I'd say there's like a lot of guys who actually like it and like rather have a girl who's like that. But there is like a body of men who like that's what they're not. They don't need another dude. They don't need to like be dating another dude. No. Right? They want to have someone who has the softness. Yeah. And I talk about this all the time with people, like all the time because it's...
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
That's huge because he's like the most intense of, I would imagine, you know more than I would. Was he as intense, I should ask you, as his reputation says?
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
I know I got to wrap this up here.
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
I think so. I think once anything is out in the open, you become more vulnerable. That's attractive also, right?
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
Yeah, it really is.
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
I think so. Oh, my God. Well, Peter, thank you for being here. I know you're moving away. I won't say where. Is it like a secret?
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
Yes, it is.
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
Okay, good. Well, I'm not going to say where it is. He's going to Mars. No, I'm sorry. So I really do appreciate you coming on this before you leave town. When did you leave?
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
I want to come to one of them. I want to see you in action. I want to see you do these things.
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
100% it will.
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
And I can see that you're good at it because it comes naturally for you. I think it's a gift that obviously you have, right? You pick up on something and then you just kind of keep on going with it. And I'm sure you've done, I can imagine, you probably really helped a lot of people. Yeah.
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
I like that. And freedom. I love it all. Where can people find your Instagram is the best place to see you?
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
Oh, thank you, Peter.
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
Oh, yes, exactly. Pleasure is all mine. Thank you. Bye.
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
Did you have to be on clock like 24-7 because he would train like 3 o'clock in the morning if he wanted to?
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
Oh, it is relevant now. I'll tell you why it's relevant because I think that in my experience, my life, I have a background similar to you then. But that leads, like, those opportunities that you create for yourself or that happen upon you, whatever, it's what you do with them, right?
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
And it's a great, you can leverage things into different possibilities and opportunities from having these experiences. And I think that, like, when you're with people who are, like, high performers, this is my, you can cut me off if you'd like, but, and you start in one realm, it automatically works.
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
Like it seeps into all sorts of different like performance in different realms because everything is connected.
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
So what was the first thing that you did that kind of took on a life, like took on a new life?
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
So right, because you talk so much about, it's all about like limiting beliefs. Like at what point in your mind or have you seen where talent takes you so far and then it comes into like if you actually think you can or the mindset you have or the limiting belief that you can.
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
Like in all your experience that you just said, what is that one thing that holds one person back and allows the other person to thrive and go so much further, even if that other person had more talent?
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
Yeah, it does.
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
I heard you say that, actually. I saw that clip that you talked about that, and I'm so fascinated by this because it's 100% true. And this is the pool that you play in. So we could do a whole hour just on that. It's always the people who are the smartest who... who are, sometimes they overthink their way into analysis paralysis, right?
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
And that's why I think sometimes people who are the, I hate to say it, but like the more, less intelligent or people who aren't that smart get way further in life because they have nothing holding them back. They're like, why not? I'll just go for it, right? Versus the people they overthink, they analyze, their brain becomes their prison, right?
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Episode 441: Peter Crone on Breaking Mental Prisons + How To Dissolve Limiting Beliefs in Seconds
Guys, today we have Peter Krohn on the podcast, and I'm nervous about this one. I actually really am. I was going to say that before we started rolling, because you talk so much about subconscious and conscious and language that I... It's hard for me and my personality to kind of grasp and understand, right?
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That's 100% true.
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Episode 415:JJ Virgin's Powerful Aging Secrets: Muscle, Metabolism, GLP-1 and Fitness Habits
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And you are one of my go-tos for information because what I love about you is that you're really good at breaking down sometimes very complicated matters or things that may be just kind of like overwhelming into layman's terms. And I appreciate that about you. So I love that you're on my podcast today.
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Episode 415:JJ Virgin's Powerful Aging Secrets: Muscle, Metabolism, GLP-1 and Fitness Habits
We do. And of course we do. It's all psychological. That's why we are cardio junkies, right? Because we think if we're sweating harder and we're moving faster and we're doing it longer that we're getting a better result. And that's like the same thing. That's so 80s. It's so 80s. It's so 80s. But yeah, that's what you see.
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Episode 415:JJ Virgin's Powerful Aging Secrets: Muscle, Metabolism, GLP-1 and Fitness Habits
Like there was a great meme that was going around that someone sent me of like middle-aged women exercising. They're doing everything but with the exercises they should be doing. You know, they're like bouncing on a swing outside or they're doing... They're on the rebounder.
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Episode 415:JJ Virgin's Powerful Aging Secrets: Muscle, Metabolism, GLP-1 and Fitness Habits
That was one.
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Episode 415:JJ Virgin's Powerful Aging Secrets: Muscle, Metabolism, GLP-1 and Fitness Habits
It's true. And I feel like, listen, the way I look at it is like some movements better than zero movement to all the power to you. But if you want to change your body composition, it's not going to be doing that. And that's just the bottom line.
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Episode 415:JJ Virgin's Powerful Aging Secrets: Muscle, Metabolism, GLP-1 and Fitness Habits
And so is it because he also, he was doing heavier weight more consistently and he dropped the other kind of more of a cardio, like biking, volleyball, whatever.
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Episode 415:JJ Virgin's Powerful Aging Secrets: Muscle, Metabolism, GLP-1 and Fitness Habits
Wow. No, I know. I think a big issue with this is bloating. Women get bloated because the amounts that maybe they're taking. Is there a way to eliminate bloating from taking creatine? Is it just the amount? Is there other things that we should be...
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Episode 415:JJ Virgin's Powerful Aging Secrets: Muscle, Metabolism, GLP-1 and Fitness Habits
Interesting. I actually read a study that was saying that if you are sleep deprived and you take creatine, It will that the creatine will actually help your mental performance because you're taking the creatine with deprivation. So I need enough. Yeah.
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Episode 415:JJ Virgin's Powerful Aging Secrets: Muscle, Metabolism, GLP-1 and Fitness Habits
I want to try this. I'll send you some. Please do. I'm going to send it to you. I really will because I haven't started to take creatine because I'm one of those girls, women, who don't want to be bloated, who don't want to do all that. Who can be bloated? You know what?
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Episode 415:JJ Virgin's Powerful Aging Secrets: Muscle, Metabolism, GLP-1 and Fitness Habits
30?
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Episode 415:JJ Virgin's Powerful Aging Secrets: Muscle, Metabolism, GLP-1 and Fitness Habits
Like, how many years?
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Episode 415:JJ Virgin's Powerful Aging Secrets: Muscle, Metabolism, GLP-1 and Fitness Habits
Yeah, no, I mean, that's exactly. And the thing is, I'm not a shake person, right? I don't believe in these shakes. You end up having a thousand calories in a shake and mostly sugar. So I like to actually eat real food. Are you mixing creatine with water? How do you do it?
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Episode 415:JJ Virgin's Powerful Aging Secrets: Muscle, Metabolism, GLP-1 and Fitness Habits
Yeah. Okay. So tell me the day in the life. I want to know all these things. I have a pen too, because I think these are, no, I think this is like, I love this. That's what it's about, right? Habits and hustle. I want to know what time you wake up, what you do every day. Go, let me know.
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Episode 415:JJ Virgin's Powerful Aging Secrets: Muscle, Metabolism, GLP-1 and Fitness Habits
So you came by this, honestly, this has always been a very big piece of your life.
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Episode 415:JJ Virgin's Powerful Aging Secrets: Muscle, Metabolism, GLP-1 and Fitness Habits
Like a therisage?
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Episode 415:JJ Virgin's Powerful Aging Secrets: Muscle, Metabolism, GLP-1 and Fitness Habits
So you do that. Okay. And then you do the rapid sauna in the morning for 10 minutes. Do you get sweaty in there?
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Episode 415:JJ Virgin's Powerful Aging Secrets: Muscle, Metabolism, GLP-1 and Fitness Habits
I'm curious. Oh. Hold on. I'm sorry. I'm curious about the Rafa one because I have one here. I'm looking at it. It's a Sarasage red light. It's like an indoor. It's like, you know, it's canvas. Is this the zipper one you said? Yes. Yes. Same one? You have the same type. Yeah.
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Episode 415:JJ Virgin's Powerful Aging Secrets: Muscle, Metabolism, GLP-1 and Fitness Habits
So is it something that you always just inherently had an interest for? Or was there like a reason? Like a lot of times I find people who are like fitness experts are typically because they had some kind of like issue. They were overweight as a kid or they had to like overcome something where, you know, they went into this space because of something that they had.
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Episode 415:JJ Virgin's Powerful Aging Secrets: Muscle, Metabolism, GLP-1 and Fitness Habits
Yeah. I have the clear light I'm looking at, too. But you're right. In the morning, it's like a whole thing to get in there. Yeah. The whole thing. You can't get in. Yeah.
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Episode 415:JJ Virgin's Powerful Aging Secrets: Muscle, Metabolism, GLP-1 and Fitness Habits
That's a good idea. I'm so sick of eggs. I need to eat protein in the morning. That's a really good idea.
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Episode 415:JJ Virgin's Powerful Aging Secrets: Muscle, Metabolism, GLP-1 and Fitness Habits
Yeah, I do that. By the way, that's what I do, but I didn't realize you can't get enough from eggs. What do you mean?
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Episode 415:JJ Virgin's Powerful Aging Secrets: Muscle, Metabolism, GLP-1 and Fitness Habits
That's true. So you'd have to eat five eggs. Hmm. I do two eggs and I add about three egg whites. Is that kind of fine?
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Episode 415:JJ Virgin's Powerful Aging Secrets: Muscle, Metabolism, GLP-1 and Fitness Habits
Really? Wow. I feel like also the, if you eat, I mean, I think for me, what happened was my, now I'm like, like I'm sensitive to eggs. I've been eating them every day.
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Episode 415:JJ Virgin's Powerful Aging Secrets: Muscle, Metabolism, GLP-1 and Fitness Habits
No, I know. And then, by the way, are you like not an oatmeal? I mean, because protein in the morning, I know you're going to say that. But what about oatmeal? Remember when oatmeal was a thing and people loved oatmeal? Do you ever eat oatmeal in the morning or that's such a shonda?
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Episode 415:JJ Virgin's Powerful Aging Secrets: Muscle, Metabolism, GLP-1 and Fitness Habits
Or was it just like a love for athletics or tap dancing or what was it?
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Episode 415:JJ Virgin's Powerful Aging Secrets: Muscle, Metabolism, GLP-1 and Fitness Habits
Okay, wait. So then we're not even, okay, why are we not, JJ, you're going ahead of me. So basically you have your breakfast and then you go to the gym and then each workout is how long?
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Episode 415:JJ Virgin's Powerful Aging Secrets: Muscle, Metabolism, GLP-1 and Fitness Habits
No, you cannot. And how long do you work out for about?
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Episode 415:JJ Virgin's Powerful Aging Secrets: Muscle, Metabolism, GLP-1 and Fitness Habits
And I think what I want to ask you this, because I feel like over the years, right, everything kind of has like their fads and trends and ebbs and flows, right?
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Episode 415:JJ Virgin's Powerful Aging Secrets: Muscle, Metabolism, GLP-1 and Fitness Habits
That's a good idea. I like Gabby. That's a good idea. It's so smart.
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Episode 415:JJ Virgin's Powerful Aging Secrets: Muscle, Metabolism, GLP-1 and Fitness Habits
It's all the same stuff. So basically you're saying all the same things we've always done. You're just doing it at a high intensity and that's how you do it. But you're saying rucking. Rucking is like, again, this is another one of these fitness trends. I mean, it's been around forever.
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Episode 415:JJ Virgin's Powerful Aging Secrets: Muscle, Metabolism, GLP-1 and Fitness Habits
Well, I was going to say, it's a fitness trend, which is not even a trend. I mean, it's like you're basically wearing a weighted vest or a knapsack or whatever.
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Episode 415:JJ Virgin's Powerful Aging Secrets: Muscle, Metabolism, GLP-1 and Fitness Habits
100%.
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Episode 415:JJ Virgin's Powerful Aging Secrets: Muscle, Metabolism, GLP-1 and Fitness Habits
How often are you doing it? Every day? No.
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Episode 415:JJ Virgin's Powerful Aging Secrets: Muscle, Metabolism, GLP-1 and Fitness Habits
And sometimes people don't want to know and hear about the actual things that work, right? Like, you know, basically eating properly, exercising a certain amount. There's all these like longevity hacks and health hacks and fitness trends. What would you say over the years, right? Would you say...
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Episode 415:JJ Virgin's Powerful Aging Secrets: Muscle, Metabolism, GLP-1 and Fitness Habits
Yeah. That's what I will do. That makes sense. Okay. So basically, nothing you've said has been that outrageous. Nothing's outrageous. It's normal stuff. The basics work the best. That was how we began this podcast. The basics do work the best, even though people want to find these magic pills. I know.
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have been kind of, you think, that stands the test of time, that are the things that actually move the needle, that people don't want to know that they should do and without the fluff.
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Oh, they did. Okay. Oh, yeah.
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Episode 415:JJ Virgin's Powerful Aging Secrets: Muscle, Metabolism, GLP-1 and Fitness Habits
Right. You know, it's funny. I know Dr. Tina Moore. I'm sure you've talked to her. I've talked to her. I love Tina so much. Yeah, she's great.
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Episode 415:JJ Virgin's Powerful Aging Secrets: Muscle, Metabolism, GLP-1 and Fitness Habits
Yeah, yeah, yeah, we were. You saved her with the Instagram. I know. She's telling everyone that. That's so funny. And I find it interesting because, you know, like everything, politics, everyone is so divisive. Like, God forbid, you don't agree with somebody. You get like you get like canceled or shut down.
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Episode 415:JJ Virgin's Powerful Aging Secrets: Muscle, Metabolism, GLP-1 and Fitness Habits
And, you know, it's interesting because people in the fitness realm I've seen get very, very angry. Right. About this. Right. And I and I feel like to your point, like if it helps somebody, it also if it jump starts you out of the hole. Right.
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Episode 415:JJ Virgin's Powerful Aging Secrets: Muscle, Metabolism, GLP-1 and Fitness Habits
If it's a jump starter and it gets you to a place where it can get you to at least 10% along the way, people are just going crazy and being very, very vicious for it. I think the problem is also it is expensive and the concern is what happens when you're not on it. Do you rebound? Do you gain all the weight back? Do you go right back to all the inflammation?
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Episode 415:JJ Virgin's Powerful Aging Secrets: Muscle, Metabolism, GLP-1 and Fitness Habits
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Episode 415:JJ Virgin's Powerful Aging Secrets: Muscle, Metabolism, GLP-1 and Fitness Habits
Like, is it something like where it is in microdose? I think that's the problem.
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Episode 415:JJ Virgin's Powerful Aging Secrets: Muscle, Metabolism, GLP-1 and Fitness Habits
Yeah, I agree. I think the problem is people are abusing it. I think people who don't need it are taking it. I think like a lot of fitness influencers are taking it.
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Episode 415:JJ Virgin's Powerful Aging Secrets: Muscle, Metabolism, GLP-1 and Fitness Habits
So it's only when you're taking a big dose is that?
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Episode 415:JJ Virgin's Powerful Aging Secrets: Muscle, Metabolism, GLP-1 and Fitness Habits
Do you have to, does your body get acclimated to whatever dose you're taking? Not if you're cycling it. So what does a cycle mean? Give us examples.
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Episode 415:JJ Virgin's Powerful Aging Secrets: Muscle, Metabolism, GLP-1 and Fitness Habits
OK, that makes sense, actually. Do you take it or no?
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Yeah.
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Episode 415:JJ Virgin's Powerful Aging Secrets: Muscle, Metabolism, GLP-1 and Fitness Habits
Right, right, right, right. I want to just end with one other question and we can just wrap it, but let's talk about a couple, like a few or as many as you want, but some popular habits that people do that are actually detrimental that are, that they think are good for them. OMAD. OMAD? One meal a day. Oh, who's doing that?
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Episode 415:JJ Virgin's Powerful Aging Secrets: Muscle, Metabolism, GLP-1 and Fitness Habits
I love that you call it that. While we're on that habit, I find that for women, it's very... For hormonal reasons, women are not getting the same benefits from fasting or intermittent fasting as I see my male friends or my male counterparts get. We...
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Episode 415:JJ Virgin's Powerful Aging Secrets: Muscle, Metabolism, GLP-1 and Fitness Habits
Well, yeah, my concern with a lot that I cover, I talk about longevity all the time. I do so many things myself and like people are always saying to me, well, does that work? Does that actually work? And honestly, God, I don't know. Right. Because I'm like, you do so many things. You're not you don't know what works, what doesn't work.
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Episode 415:JJ Virgin's Powerful Aging Secrets: Muscle, Metabolism, GLP-1 and Fitness Habits
What is your idea? Okay, so give me another popular habit that people are doing that's actually detrimental.
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Episode 415:JJ Virgin's Powerful Aging Secrets: Muscle, Metabolism, GLP-1 and Fitness Habits
I think the problem is a big myth is how many calories, we over index how many calories we're actually burning. And so we think, oh, we can eat that piece of cake or we can do that because we went to the gym for 45 minutes. But we actually only work, we only like burn a third, I think it was, of what we actually think we do.
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Episode 415:JJ Virgin's Powerful Aging Secrets: Muscle, Metabolism, GLP-1 and Fitness Habits
What do you say and what do you feel are the things that work like for sure? Like give me like when you're saying diet and exercise. OK, we got that. Is there a particular diet? Yes, exactly.
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Episode 415:JJ Virgin's Powerful Aging Secrets: Muscle, Metabolism, GLP-1 and Fitness Habits
No, I could not agree with you more on that. I mean, I always say that I would prefer to do three 10-minute workouts a day versus a long, extraneous one because it's about how much you're moving your body during the day. It's not because most people go to the gym and then after the gym, they're like sedentary for the next 23 and a half hours. Not the smartest thing.
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Episode 415:JJ Virgin's Powerful Aging Secrets: Muscle, Metabolism, GLP-1 and Fitness Habits
That's true. That's 100% true too, right? Because you're like, I'm only doing this for 10 minutes. I might as well put it all, you know, let's do it. No, that's a good point. Okay, JJ, I've had you for a long time on this show. I appreciate it. After all the technical difficulties, I appreciate you coming on.
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Episode 415:JJ Virgin's Powerful Aging Secrets: Muscle, Metabolism, GLP-1 and Fitness Habits
Tell people how they can find out more about you, where they find you besides the Shia teen, which I am- The Shia teen that I'm sending you.
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Episode 415:JJ Virgin's Powerful Aging Secrets: Muscle, Metabolism, GLP-1 and Fitness Habits
They'll make a big difference. I love that. I'm going to actually, I'm looking for your information. I can't, you're going to have to give it to me after. I don't know why it's not in here, but I got to send you my address. Thank you again. And I think we're going to do this again for you right now. So I'll see you soon.
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Episode 415:JJ Virgin's Powerful Aging Secrets: Muscle, Metabolism, GLP-1 and Fitness Habits
Yes, that's fine. Either one. Okay. So bye.
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Episode 415:JJ Virgin's Powerful Aging Secrets: Muscle, Metabolism, GLP-1 and Fitness Habits
Yeah, you look insanely good. I mean, I was going to ask you, are you on like, are you doing HRT or something?
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Episode 415:JJ Virgin's Powerful Aging Secrets: Muscle, Metabolism, GLP-1 and Fitness Habits
Yeah, are you on something? Well, no, because you're so ripped. And if you don't mind me asking, how old are you?
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And do you feel at this, like at this stage, are you still having to tweak it depending on different things? Or now you have it, like, is it dialed in at a certain point?
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Episode 415:JJ Virgin's Powerful Aging Secrets: Muscle, Metabolism, GLP-1 and Fitness Habits
So I find that the problem is that I hear a lot. I get asked this a bunch. If people are going on testosterone, but they're not doing estrogen yet, and there's so much information out there, and I think people then stop. They don't even do anything because it's basically like analysis paralysis, right? You don't know what to do, so you don't do anything.
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Episode 415:JJ Virgin's Powerful Aging Secrets: Muscle, Metabolism, GLP-1 and Fitness Habits
What about supplementation? For example, creatine is a hot topic now. Everyone's talking about it. And I think women are still very nervous about creatine because we remember that men who are always taking creatine and they look big and bulky. What's your stance on creatine? Do you take it?
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Episode 415:JJ Virgin's Powerful Aging Secrets: Muscle, Metabolism, GLP-1 and Fitness Habits
I like it.
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Episode 415:JJ Virgin's Powerful Aging Secrets: Muscle, Metabolism, GLP-1 and Fitness Habits
So I'm just going to say a quick, like two sentences about JJ Virgin because JJ Virgin has, you've had like how many New York Times bestselling books in the fitness and health space? Four. Four, okay. Four.
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Episode 449: Dr. Sarah Hill: How Birth Control Changes Your Brain, Dating Choices, and Evolutionary Psychology
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Episode 449: Dr. Sarah Hill: How Birth Control Changes Your Brain, Dating Choices, and Evolutionary Psychology
So how about on the male side? Because if you're picking, if the females, certain things are dampened, like her sexual libido and her desires and all these other things are like more dampened. What kind of man is attracted to a woman on birth control versus one that's not?
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Episode 449: Dr. Sarah Hill: How Birth Control Changes Your Brain, Dating Choices, and Evolutionary Psychology
That is so interesting. Yeah, totally. And like these are a lot of things that you ever would think about, right? Like partner choice and all of these things. What is like the percentage of women, do you know, that are on birth control?
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Episode 449: Dr. Sarah Hill: How Birth Control Changes Your Brain, Dating Choices, and Evolutionary Psychology
Yeah.
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Episode 449: Dr. Sarah Hill: How Birth Control Changes Your Brain, Dating Choices, and Evolutionary Psychology
What? What would be the point of taking an IUD with hormones if you could take one without hormones and get the same effect?
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Episode 449: Dr. Sarah Hill: How Birth Control Changes Your Brain, Dating Choices, and Evolutionary Psychology
I have no idea.
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Episode 449: Dr. Sarah Hill: How Birth Control Changes Your Brain, Dating Choices, and Evolutionary Psychology
I've had one my whole life. Yeah.
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Episode 449: Dr. Sarah Hill: How Birth Control Changes Your Brain, Dating Choices, and Evolutionary Psychology
I changed it, but like every 10 years you change it.
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Episode 449: Dr. Sarah Hill: How Birth Control Changes Your Brain, Dating Choices, and Evolutionary Psychology
We have Dr. Sarah Hill on the podcast today, who is an evolutionary psychologist. By the way, I want you to tell us what that is. But she is someone who talks all about hormones, the effects of birth control. You wrote a whole book on this. And mating, which is, again, I love all your stuff. So I'm so happy you're here today.
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Episode 449: Dr. Sarah Hill: How Birth Control Changes Your Brain, Dating Choices, and Evolutionary Psychology
And then doctors- People will do anything and say anything. Well, I know it is.
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Episode 449: Dr. Sarah Hill: How Birth Control Changes Your Brain, Dating Choices, and Evolutionary Psychology
Who in the hell would get an IUD that has hormones? I never understood that. Like the whole purpose of getting an IUD is you don't need hormones.
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Episode 449: Dr. Sarah Hill: How Birth Control Changes Your Brain, Dating Choices, and Evolutionary Psychology
Exactly. It's basically like Isn't it just like covering your cervix?
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Episode 449: Dr. Sarah Hill: How Birth Control Changes Your Brain, Dating Choices, and Evolutionary Psychology
That's what I mean. It's basically like a shield or whatever you call it. Right. Yeah. But what I wanted to ask you, because it sounds like, how about pheromones? Where does pheromones fit into this?
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Episode 449: Dr. Sarah Hill: How Birth Control Changes Your Brain, Dating Choices, and Evolutionary Psychology
Really?
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It's like everything is shut off.
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Episode 449: Dr. Sarah Hill: How Birth Control Changes Your Brain, Dating Choices, and Evolutionary Psychology
Trust me, you'll be happy you did. So then women, though, who are not on birth control, they typically, like, what is attractive to a woman naturally? And what is attractive to a man naturally?
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Episode 449: Dr. Sarah Hill: How Birth Control Changes Your Brain, Dating Choices, and Evolutionary Psychology
Yes, of course.
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Episode 449: Dr. Sarah Hill: How Birth Control Changes Your Brain, Dating Choices, and Evolutionary Psychology
Yeah, that's it. That's a great summary of what you do. But then you wrote a book about birth control. But you wrote that book a while ago, but it's been seeming to get a lot of traction recently.
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Episode 449: Dr. Sarah Hill: How Birth Control Changes Your Brain, Dating Choices, and Evolutionary Psychology
But that doesn't seem to be like, I think, are there very specific things that you can point to that men find attractive beyond just cues of estrogen cycles? Right, right. No. No, I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding.
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Episode 449: Dr. Sarah Hill: How Birth Control Changes Your Brain, Dating Choices, and Evolutionary Psychology
I think that's a load of shit, to be honest. I think if they're not attracted to you. Oh, yeah. No, 100%. I think after that, then it's loyalty. Because I have a lot of guy friends who are in their mid, let's say in their midlife, like 40s, let's say, even some of them are 50s, never been married, never have a serious girlfriend. And I try to set them up all the time.
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Episode 449: Dr. Sarah Hill: How Birth Control Changes Your Brain, Dating Choices, and Evolutionary Psychology
And I say to them, oh, I have the best girl. She's this. She's pretty. She's successful. She's got a great personality. At the end of the day, they're not interested. Why? Unless they find her hot physically. All those other qualities, her success doesn't matter. Her confidence doesn't matter. Her sense of humor doesn't matter. I think that with men, it's
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Episode 449: Dr. Sarah Hill: How Birth Control Changes Your Brain, Dating Choices, and Evolutionary Psychology
I'm no evolutionary psychologist, but I would say physical attractiveness is pretty much paramount.
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Episode 449: Dr. Sarah Hill: How Birth Control Changes Your Brain, Dating Choices, and Evolutionary Psychology
Okay, that makes sense to me. That makes sense to me. But then why is there such a mating crisis? Like people are not dating anymore. They're not having relationships anymore. Right.
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Episode 449: Dr. Sarah Hill: How Birth Control Changes Your Brain, Dating Choices, and Evolutionary Psychology
We dive into how the pill can alter sexual desire, stress response, emotional sensitivity, and even influence the type of partner you're drawn to. It may even affect your mental health and motivation in ways most women aren't told. So whether you're using birth control or just curious, this is an eye-opening conversation that will change how you think about hormones and your identity.
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Episode 449: Dr. Sarah Hill: How Birth Control Changes Your Brain, Dating Choices, and Evolutionary Psychology
That's what they say.
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Episode 449: Dr. Sarah Hill: How Birth Control Changes Your Brain, Dating Choices, and Evolutionary Psychology
Yes.
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Episode 449: Dr. Sarah Hill: How Birth Control Changes Your Brain, Dating Choices, and Evolutionary Psychology
Well, yeah. And also from the way you described it, what that would tell me is if men are getting married later, right? Because they don't have to get married as early. They have this dating app so they can date. And what they're attracted to is more youthful estrogen cycles. They're going to end up dating younger girls. So the young girls are going to get married to these older men.
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Episode 449: Dr. Sarah Hill: How Birth Control Changes Your Brain, Dating Choices, and Evolutionary Psychology
Because for girls, men who are older can come across as sexy, not old. Right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But for girls, you know, older women look like older women.
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Episode 449: Dr. Sarah Hill: How Birth Control Changes Your Brain, Dating Choices, and Evolutionary Psychology
Oh, no, I was going to say, and then what happens is it's leaving these women who have now been active, who've had a lot of success, you know, financially, in business, professionally. They're leaving them in the lurch because now there's nowhere for them to go further, right? Right. And...
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Episode 449: Dr. Sarah Hill: How Birth Control Changes Your Brain, Dating Choices, and Evolutionary Psychology
Well, my question is then is why don't those women just go out with a younger guy who's just hot and just do what men used to do for all these years, right? Like just do what men do. They're successful men. They want a younger girl. So then they end up with this girl. Why don't women do that?
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Episode 449: Dr. Sarah Hill: How Birth Control Changes Your Brain, Dating Choices, and Evolutionary Psychology
And starting more.
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Episode 449: Dr. Sarah Hill: How Birth Control Changes Your Brain, Dating Choices, and Evolutionary Psychology
But it's, it's, it's disrupting the natural flow of evolution and Darwin is, I would say, well, isn't survival the fittest is all about.
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Episode 449: Dr. Sarah Hill: How Birth Control Changes Your Brain, Dating Choices, and Evolutionary Psychology
Right, we're wired differently.
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Episode 449: Dr. Sarah Hill: How Birth Control Changes Your Brain, Dating Choices, and Evolutionary Psychology
That's right. I heard you say somewhere, I don't remember where, that looks is the number one predictor for women's upward mobility.
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Episode 449: Dr. Sarah Hill: How Birth Control Changes Your Brain, Dating Choices, and Evolutionary Psychology
Wow. Yeah, it's pretty depressing. Isn't that depressing? It is. What's a man's number one predictor for upward mobility?
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Episode 449: Dr. Sarah Hill: How Birth Control Changes Your Brain, Dating Choices, and Evolutionary Psychology
Right. Totally different, right?
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Episode 449: Dr. Sarah Hill: How Birth Control Changes Your Brain, Dating Choices, and Evolutionary Psychology
It's definitely not exactly. Do you know the other saying, like if a man wants to be attractive, he stands on his wallet. That's the other thing. Yeah, I've heard that. But the truth is, I hate to say it, but there's a reason why some of these things, there's a lot of truth in these things, right?
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Episode 449: Dr. Sarah Hill: How Birth Control Changes Your Brain, Dating Choices, and Evolutionary Psychology
That's why you see a lot of these, a lot of women I see with men who are like, you wouldn't call them attractive by looking at them. They're four foot three, bald, and not that physically attractive. But I tell you, when they have like $100 million in their bank account, they're very attractive dating the supermodel.
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Episode 449: Dr. Sarah Hill: How Birth Control Changes Your Brain, Dating Choices, and Evolutionary Psychology
kind of you know got some other positive qualities as well but it's really funny and it's funny because the second you think of that you think about the female and you think if the girl's really beautiful you think oh well she's a gold digger or all the other connotations which then like because of the survival of the fittest and all that is there a lot of jealousy with women because it's only a certain amount like of that stuff we're talking about there is a limited amount of
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Episode 449: Dr. Sarah Hill: How Birth Control Changes Your Brain, Dating Choices, and Evolutionary Psychology
great guys that we all want. Like I've done a few podcasts on this where just in terms of just on the dating apps, right? It's like 1% of the men get 99% of the action, right? Because women want guys who are six foot, make over a hundred thousand, all these things, that's to say, where it doesn't leave a very big amount of, a lot of men. But there's a lot of women out there, right? Yes.
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Episode 449: Dr. Sarah Hill: How Birth Control Changes Your Brain, Dating Choices, and Evolutionary Psychology
And women are naturally catty. Yes.
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Episode 449: Dr. Sarah Hill: How Birth Control Changes Your Brain, Dating Choices, and Evolutionary Psychology
An element or more than one element?
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Episode 449: Dr. Sarah Hill: How Birth Control Changes Your Brain, Dating Choices, and Evolutionary Psychology
Right? Exactly. Because you were taken, you were already, like, you were dormant in their way. Like, you were kind of, like, your things were suppressed. Right.
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Episode 449: Dr. Sarah Hill: How Birth Control Changes Your Brain, Dating Choices, and Evolutionary Psychology
Was your new community all single women?
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Episode 449: Dr. Sarah Hill: How Birth Control Changes Your Brain, Dating Choices, and Evolutionary Psychology
Yeah. Um, if anyone would, it would be you.
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Episode 449: Dr. Sarah Hill: How Birth Control Changes Your Brain, Dating Choices, and Evolutionary Psychology
And how old were the kids when you got the divorce?
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Episode 449: Dr. Sarah Hill: How Birth Control Changes Your Brain, Dating Choices, and Evolutionary Psychology
So why do you think now, or like two years ago, it became such a... hashtag worthy topic, like hormones. It's become very trendy. It's very big, like you said. What do you think, what was the trajectory that all of a sudden people are really talking about this now?
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Episode 449: Dr. Sarah Hill: How Birth Control Changes Your Brain, Dating Choices, and Evolutionary Psychology
Really? Why?
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Episode 449: Dr. Sarah Hill: How Birth Control Changes Your Brain, Dating Choices, and Evolutionary Psychology
I think also it makes people think to themselves, they're jealous a little bit. I wish I could do that. Why can't I do that? Will I be okay? Or they feel trapped because financially they're trapped. There's all these other them issues that you're basically forcing them to look at.
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Episode 449: Dr. Sarah Hill: How Birth Control Changes Your Brain, Dating Choices, and Evolutionary Psychology
And then I was able to find my new community. Yeah. And so when you're now in the new community and you guys are all single, like you were saying, was there cattiness and jealousy because you're all in the same boat and look like, oh, she's going on a date. Why can't I go on a date? Was there any of that?
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Episode 449: Dr. Sarah Hill: How Birth Control Changes Your Brain, Dating Choices, and Evolutionary Psychology
people. I was like, yeah, maybe they're not right for you, but you have Sally out there who you'd be great for. Yes.
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Episode 449: Dr. Sarah Hill: How Birth Control Changes Your Brain, Dating Choices, and Evolutionary Psychology
Yeah, I think you're right. I think there's a different like your priorities change. You soften up a little bit. You know, there's other things that happen. How have you been married to this new husband? Oh my God. Well, we've been together for three years. We're just recently married. Yeah. Oh, congratulations. You're welcome. And so he's got kids too? Yes, he does.
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Episode 449: Dr. Sarah Hill: How Birth Control Changes Your Brain, Dating Choices, and Evolutionary Psychology
Oh, wow.
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Episode 449: Dr. Sarah Hill: How Birth Control Changes Your Brain, Dating Choices, and Evolutionary Psychology
Right, right, right. But it's interesting because you've like lived all these different parts, like just different stages of life that you can talk on. So then you were on the apps. Yeah, I was. So how did you find the apps?
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Episode 449: Dr. Sarah Hill: How Birth Control Changes Your Brain, Dating Choices, and Evolutionary Psychology
It was research. Yeah, I mean, totally.
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Episode 449: Dr. Sarah Hill: How Birth Control Changes Your Brain, Dating Choices, and Evolutionary Psychology
That's great.
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Episode 449: Dr. Sarah Hill: How Birth Control Changes Your Brain, Dating Choices, and Evolutionary Psychology
Yeah. I mean, even if the most amicable divorce is still a divorce for the kids, right? Exactly. They're going to have to go back and forth to the homes.
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Episode 449: Dr. Sarah Hill: How Birth Control Changes Your Brain, Dating Choices, and Evolutionary Psychology
I think I got sidetracked there because I was so interested in your life.
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Episode 449: Dr. Sarah Hill: How Birth Control Changes Your Brain, Dating Choices, and Evolutionary Psychology
Yeah, let's talk about life. Well, I know that at the beginning I asked you a question and I think that we kind of like didn't finish it, which was, well, is it the five things that birth control can change or how? Yeah. It's not just this your partner choice, but there's other things too it does. Yes. And that's the part that I didn't finish with. Sorry. Okay.
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Episode 449: Dr. Sarah Hill: How Birth Control Changes Your Brain, Dating Choices, and Evolutionary Psychology
Well, you know what? It's not that surprising to me because they do say that there's weight gain with being on the pill. And a lot of people don't want to go on the pill. I was one of them at a very young age because I was scared of gaining weight. So that makes sense to me because your testosterone will be suppressed. The less lean muscle mass you have, the less calories you're going to burn.
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Episode 449: Dr. Sarah Hill: How Birth Control Changes Your Brain, Dating Choices, and Evolutionary Psychology
Therefore, you know, you won't be burning as much.
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Episode 449: Dr. Sarah Hill: How Birth Control Changes Your Brain, Dating Choices, and Evolutionary Psychology
Wow. So as an adolescent, if you're listening or parents listening, what is an alternative just besides doing what we talked about earlier? Copper IUD. Yeah, besides doing the copper IUD, that's really, that's the best alternative.
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Episode 449: Dr. Sarah Hill: How Birth Control Changes Your Brain, Dating Choices, and Evolutionary Psychology
No. I mean, at all. And that's probably why also you wanted to write this book I saw, right? Because you had your own story. Once you got off of birth control, you were a different person. You were making playlists, and you were like...
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Episode 449: Dr. Sarah Hill: How Birth Control Changes Your Brain, Dating Choices, and Evolutionary Psychology
Yeah. I mean, I find that so like, you don't, that's why I love this conversation with you because I never really, I never really spoke about the correlation between, we talk a lot about HRT on here, right? Like hormone replacement therapy when you're older, right? But we don't talk about the hormones that we are putting in our bodies at a younger age to suppress, right?
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Episode 449: Dr. Sarah Hill: How Birth Control Changes Your Brain, Dating Choices, and Evolutionary Psychology
Or we only talk about the opposite, right?
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Episode 449: Dr. Sarah Hill: How Birth Control Changes Your Brain, Dating Choices, and Evolutionary Psychology
They're suppressing your hormones.
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Episode 449: Dr. Sarah Hill: How Birth Control Changes Your Brain, Dating Choices, and Evolutionary Psychology
Right.
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Episode 449: Dr. Sarah Hill: How Birth Control Changes Your Brain, Dating Choices, and Evolutionary Psychology
It's a different thing, right? You're either at a young age or because of, for birth control, you're suppressing them. But at an older age, you're trying to increase them to balance yourself out. Right. So you don't only do any work on that, right?
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Episode 449: Dr. Sarah Hill: How Birth Control Changes Your Brain, Dating Choices, and Evolutionary Psychology
So let's talk about that because I think this is how I found you. Because you initially started talking about how our brains are very different and our choices, our life choices are very different when we're on birth control versus when we're not on birth control. Can you just talk about some of these major things that change our brains when we're on synthetic hormones?
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Episode 449: Dr. Sarah Hill: How Birth Control Changes Your Brain, Dating Choices, and Evolutionary Psychology
Yeah.
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Episode 449: Dr. Sarah Hill: How Birth Control Changes Your Brain, Dating Choices, and Evolutionary Psychology
Wow. Thanks for telling me that. I had no idea. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Wow. Well, Sarah, thank you for being on the podcast. Yeah, thank you for having me. This was so fun. This was so fun. Did I miss anything? Is there anything else we should talk about? I don't think so.
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Episode 449: Dr. Sarah Hill: How Birth Control Changes Your Brain, Dating Choices, and Evolutionary Psychology
I know your personal life. I know. Thank you for sharing. Cause I think, I think a lot of people can relate to that too. I think it's real life and it's, I'm somebody that like is very much someone who's interested in like the nitty gritty of someone beyond all this other stuff. I wanted to get to know you as a, as a person. So thanks.
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Episode 449: Dr. Sarah Hill: How Birth Control Changes Your Brain, Dating Choices, and Evolutionary Psychology
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Episode 449: Dr. Sarah Hill: How Birth Control Changes Your Brain, Dating Choices, and Evolutionary Psychology
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Episode 449: Dr. Sarah Hill: How Birth Control Changes Your Brain, Dating Choices, and Evolutionary Psychology
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Episode 449: Dr. Sarah Hill: How Birth Control Changes Your Brain, Dating Choices, and Evolutionary Psychology
Can birth control really change who you're attracted to or even who you become? On this episode of Habits & Hustle, I'm joined by Dr. Sarah Hill, who's an evolutionary psychologist and author to explore how hormonal birth control impacts the brain, behavior, and mate choice.
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Episode 449: Dr. Sarah Hill: How Birth Control Changes Your Brain, Dating Choices, and Evolutionary Psychology
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Episode 449: Dr. Sarah Hill: How Birth Control Changes Your Brain, Dating Choices, and Evolutionary Psychology
So it kind of blunts your emotions in some way. Yeah, it does. It blunts your like highs and lows. So because of that, you say we make different choices. So you're saying that we would pick and choose different mates and partners even based on that.
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Episode 449: Dr. Sarah Hill: How Birth Control Changes Your Brain, Dating Choices, and Evolutionary Psychology
When they're not on the pill.
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Episode 449: Dr. Sarah Hill: How Birth Control Changes Your Brain, Dating Choices, and Evolutionary Psychology
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Episode 397: Michael Easter on The Comfort Crisis: Is Optimizing Life Making Us Weaker?
Hi guys, it's Tony Robbins. You're listening to Habits & Hustle. Crush it. Okay, so this is the book. This has been out for a year, The Scarcity Brain, yeah?
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Episode 397: Michael Easter on The Comfort Crisis: Is Optimizing Life Making Us Weaker?
By the way, I want to make two comments. Number one, 100%, I think social media is where mental health goes to die for so many reasons, right? Because there's a lot of problems on all of it. But more than anything, the biggest problem is people are just like, it's just increasing and impacting mental health and loneliness.
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Episode 397: Michael Easter on The Comfort Crisis: Is Optimizing Life Making Us Weaker?
I mean, people now don't even know how to socialize or they don't want to socialize because they have faux friends that they think are their friends. If they're on Instagram or looking at Twitter and they had these fights. So I think overall it's crazy.
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Episode 397: Michael Easter on The Comfort Crisis: Is Optimizing Life Making Us Weaker?
But I think that the other thing that you said was really true and interesting is a lot of things in life, if you just like take a second and slow down or like have like some kind of barrier where you have to, you know, think again before you act, typically a lot of times that's enough to not do that act. Right.
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Episode 397: Michael Easter on The Comfort Crisis: Is Optimizing Life Making Us Weaker?
And that's what that could be with like food eating. It could be with, you know, consuming anything. Right. Like any kind of addiction. Yeah.
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Episode 397: Michael Easter on The Comfort Crisis: Is Optimizing Life Making Us Weaker?
I think that grayscale thing is a really interesting, like, stat that I'd never really heard of before.
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Episode 397: Michael Easter on The Comfort Crisis: Is Optimizing Life Making Us Weaker?
Yeah, that's your newsletter, right? I know I was actually, I meant to sign up for it and I haven't yet. Can you give me some other things like that? That's a really good one. The great turning your phone to grayscale.
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Episode 397: Michael Easter on The Comfort Crisis: Is Optimizing Life Making Us Weaker?
Do you have anything else that you want to like, or you can share that are things that maybe the people haven't heard of that can help them with all that stuff, like helping them with like reducing social media or helping them like get into the moment where they can rethink or anything like that's a really good one. I love that.
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Episode 397: Michael Easter on The Comfort Crisis: Is Optimizing Life Making Us Weaker?
What's that app called that you said, ClearSpace?
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That is amazing because I think the phone has been like the bane of everybody's existence.
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Episode 397: Michael Easter on The Comfort Crisis: Is Optimizing Life Making Us Weaker?
I mean, it's it is unbelievable. In fact, the other thing I wanted you to talk about that I wanted to talk about predictability for a second, right? To go back to what you're saying, like, can you talk first of all, about something that you talk about called in the pigeon story, and then I'll tell you why I want to talk about predictability.
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Episode 397: Michael Easter on The Comfort Crisis: Is Optimizing Life Making Us Weaker?
That happens. That actually happened with like a couple of things, Family Man that happened with and like Breaking Bad. Like certain things like don't really have like a strong, very rarely, maybe a strong out of the gate, but then through word of mouth and picks up momentum and it becomes like a cult hit, a cult following. I thought your book, I thought it was great.
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Episode 397: Michael Easter on The Comfort Crisis: Is Optimizing Life Making Us Weaker?
So is that, that's what I find interesting. Like, so I actually think that like, is it that we humans and animals and pigeons alike, it says to me that we like unpredictability, right? Like some people are creatures of habit, right? Like they'd like to know what's coming, but the truth of the matter is, are we mostly programmed to not like predictability because it's boring?
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Episode 397: Michael Easter on The Comfort Crisis: Is Optimizing Life Making Us Weaker?
Like what, what is the, what does that tell? What does that say?
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Episode 397: Michael Easter on The Comfort Crisis: Is Optimizing Life Making Us Weaker?
See, I guess my curiosity is about how I think that we've become a soft culture society, right? Because... the world has now evolved where we get everything at our disposal. Not everything's easy. We got like, people are now conditioned to do the easy things, right? Like we can find food everywhere, even exercise, right? We don't need to exercise. We've got to create these situations.
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Episode 397: Michael Easter on The Comfort Crisis: Is Optimizing Life Making Us Weaker?
Wow, happy anniversary. And this one is The Comfort Crisis, which is, I really enjoyed this one, too.
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Episode 397: Michael Easter on The Comfort Crisis: Is Optimizing Life Making Us Weaker?
We've got to create treadmills and weighted vests and all sorts of concoctions and gimmicks to make people gamify the idea of moving, right? Like everything has become easy. So like, I feel like I mean, you may not even have the answer.
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Episode 397: Michael Easter on The Comfort Crisis: Is Optimizing Life Making Us Weaker?
Is it that we now crave unpredictability or some type of like excitement dopamine because we've now, we've become so, we've evolution to a place that everything is so easy. That's where we kind of gain our excitement as a nation or as a society.
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Episode 397: Michael Easter on The Comfort Crisis: Is Optimizing Life Making Us Weaker?
I thought The Comfort Crisis was a really, really good. I thought this was a New York Times bestseller.
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Episode 397: Michael Easter on The Comfort Crisis: Is Optimizing Life Making Us Weaker?
Yeah, I don't know Rakuten. Well, you'll go on to Rakuten. But like what happens is you download this thing and it shows up. Like let's say if I'm on the Bloomingdale's, I'm just making like if I'm on Bloomingdale's site, right? And it comes up like today Rakuten, you know, Rakuten is 10%. It's already embedded into your computer. You need to go out and download it.
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Episode 397: Michael Easter on The Comfort Crisis: Is Optimizing Life Making Us Weaker?
It says today at Bloomingdale's, you get 10% back. And so then you're like, oh, I'm for sure going to shop at Blooby Dales now, even if you weren't intending to do it.
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Episode 397: Michael Easter on The Comfort Crisis: Is Optimizing Life Making Us Weaker?
Yes, exactly. It makes it, it makes it exciting. But like, I find like, and you said this actually, where it was in the book or I like, I was like, I did, I read both books and I like saw all the stuff that you did.
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Episode 397: Michael Easter on The Comfort Crisis: Is Optimizing Life Making Us Weaker?
So let's talk about the scarcity loop and then we can go into the comfort race. Is that cool? Yeah, it's good with me. Good. So because that is like the more topical for now, but can we talk about number one, the scarcity brain? And you talk a lot about something called the scarcity loop. Can you just start by talking and defining and explaining what the scarcity loop is?
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Episode 397: Michael Easter on The Comfort Crisis: Is Optimizing Life Making Us Weaker?
So I don't remember exactly where I saw what, when I was like researching you before you came on the show, but it's like, you're, it was also the fact that like you were saying, like, even when you don't have problems, like the more minimal your problems are,
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Episode 397: Michael Easter on The Comfort Crisis: Is Optimizing Life Making Us Weaker?
You actually like, it's part of the nature now where we create problems or like we are our baseline for what is even a problem becomes lower because we need to create this excitement. This because it's like so scarce in our, in our, in our world and our life right now.
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Episode 397: Michael Easter on The Comfort Crisis: Is Optimizing Life Making Us Weaker?
There's a comfort crisis. I love, I'm telling you, I found a lot of stuff in that comfort crisis. I love it.
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Episode 397: Michael Easter on The Comfort Crisis: Is Optimizing Life Making Us Weaker?
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Episode 397: Michael Easter on The Comfort Crisis: Is Optimizing Life Making Us Weaker?
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Episode 397: Michael Easter on The Comfort Crisis: Is Optimizing Life Making Us Weaker?
Are you doing it just because you're, are you trying to like get, are you trying to, is it based on a hypothesis that you have in your head and then you reverse engineer to prove it? Like what, or is it just because you love to travel? You're, you're like an adrenaline junkie. You've been like, you went to Iraq in the most crazy times. Like what is the purpose?
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Episode 397: Michael Easter on The Comfort Crisis: Is Optimizing Life Making Us Weaker?
Or are you trying to figure out like where we're going now? As a society, because I could tell you, but what is the goal in mind?
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Episode 397: Michael Easter on The Comfort Crisis: Is Optimizing Life Making Us Weaker?
I also saw, like, you were also, you're sober, right? Like, were you an alcoholic? Yeah. When did you get sober?
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Episode 397: Michael Easter on The Comfort Crisis: Is Optimizing Life Making Us Weaker?
Oh, so that's not that long ago.
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Episode 397: Michael Easter on The Comfort Crisis: Is Optimizing Life Making Us Weaker?
Wow. So I think that both of your books, like they dovetail nicely. Like there's like a lot of synergies between them. What's your thing you're going to do next to kind of, is there like a volume three of what you're going to do or? Yeah.
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Episode 397: Michael Easter on The Comfort Crisis: Is Optimizing Life Making Us Weaker?
This is your first one. Yep. I'm going to ask you a couple questions from that, too, because I really, I noticed something which I found to be very interesting in it. You talk about, in that book, I just did a TED Talk. Let me just get back up. Three days ago. Thank you. Part of that TED talk was me talking about this cool concept of like how boredom has been a lot is a lost feature in our world.
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Episode 397: Michael Easter on The Comfort Crisis: Is Optimizing Life Making Us Weaker?
Right, right, right. Exactly.
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Episode 397: Michael Easter on The Comfort Crisis: Is Optimizing Life Making Us Weaker?
So let's talk about Comfort Crisis for a second, because that's, you know, I loved it. But one more question on scarcity for a second, because I heard another great thing that you were mentioning about how you were working with another psychologist and about some guy about a Lego program or thing. Oh, yeah.
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Episode 397: Michael Easter on The Comfort Crisis: Is Optimizing Life Making Us Weaker?
And yeah, I, you know, it's one of these things, what I like about your work, you know, is that when I was reading it, it's like sometimes common sense isn't so common, right? We try to like find these complicated reasonings for all these, for like sometimes the simplest thing, right?
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Episode 397: Michael Easter on The Comfort Crisis: Is Optimizing Life Making Us Weaker?
Like you're talking about like people are constantly adding and adding, but really like if you really look at it, it's the things that have the most, the best solutions is when you actually subtract and take away.
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Episode 397: Michael Easter on The Comfort Crisis: Is Optimizing Life Making Us Weaker?
And it's so true.
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Episode 397: Michael Easter on The Comfort Crisis: Is Optimizing Life Making Us Weaker?
You know, I find that just like to be like a metaphor for life, right? That's why I really kind of responded or resonated with me, right? Because it's so true. Again, like so many of these other things, like I feel like the easier life has gotten for us, the harder it actually became, right? Like, you know, even, you know, all these like sleeping tools, you know, like the
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Episode 397: Michael Easter on The Comfort Crisis: Is Optimizing Life Making Us Weaker?
all the rings and the, all the things, right? Like I always try all the, I try everything. I have everything. And I eventually like throw them to the wall and like throw them away because all it does is create more angst, more anxiety, worse sleep, worse this, because now you have just yet another thing to be concerned about another tool to be concerned about another, this when like big, big,
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Episode 397: Michael Easter on The Comfort Crisis: Is Optimizing Life Making Us Weaker?
We don't need all that. Like, we just have, we're just like, we just are like just amassing stuff, stuff, stuff. Like, even all these apps and technologies to make your life easier actually just makes it harder.
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Episode 397: Michael Easter on The Comfort Crisis: Is Optimizing Life Making Us Weaker?
Not at all. So how did you figure it out and how wrong was it? Like how inaccurate was it?
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Episode 397: Michael Easter on The Comfort Crisis: Is Optimizing Life Making Us Weaker?
How do you prove that? Like, how did you prove it with another app? Yeah.
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Episode 397: Michael Easter on The Comfort Crisis: Is Optimizing Life Making Us Weaker?
I'd like to know. I mean, I've seen, I've had a million sleep experts on here and I've had a million people talk about every single wearable possible. And all I've seen, all I know is that if I wake up feeling rested, I said, well, if I didn't, I didn't. Like, it's pretty basic.
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Episode 397: Michael Easter on The Comfort Crisis: Is Optimizing Life Making Us Weaker?
No, I know. Also, I, you know how I wear this weighted vest. I think you do too. I heard you talk about them too. By the way, this is not like, it's become like super trendy now. Like, I mean, everyone's like now rucking, but guess what? This has been around for many, many, many years. And now things kind of hit a trend or an uptick. And all of a sudden it's the latest and greatest thing.
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Episode 397: Michael Easter on The Comfort Crisis: Is Optimizing Life Making Us Weaker?
I mean, I just find it very interesting that like it's People need to like that. That's I guess this is the issue, right? Like we have to kind of like create like these these environments or these things where people are like tempted or interested in like moving their bodies versus because we've allowed people to become lazy. Really, that's basically what's happened.
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Episode 397: Michael Easter on The Comfort Crisis: Is Optimizing Life Making Us Weaker?
Yeah. And we're paying it with our health for sure. What are your habits? Like, what do you do daily? I mean, you've seen it all, you do it all, you talk about it. Tell me the things that work best for you that you've seen. The pedometer on your hip, like your granny. Yeah.
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Episode 397: Michael Easter on The Comfort Crisis: Is Optimizing Life Making Us Weaker?
Then you write for four hours a day, just like on something or like you have like a topic or that you just start writing and it just flows that easy.
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Episode 397: Michael Easter on The Comfort Crisis: Is Optimizing Life Making Us Weaker?
But normally you have to be writing about something like, for example, like so for your newsletter, right? Like where do you find the topics? Do you like look for certain things? Do you like just, how does it, what's the process?
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Episode 397: Michael Easter on The Comfort Crisis: Is Optimizing Life Making Us Weaker?
Oh my God.
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Episode 397: Michael Easter on The Comfort Crisis: Is Optimizing Life Making Us Weaker?
Michael, I'm so surprised to hear you say that. You don't seem like the type.
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Episode 397: Michael Easter on The Comfort Crisis: Is Optimizing Life Making Us Weaker?
I love it. It's basically like you're like it's just like you're like guilty pleasure, basically.
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Episode 397: Michael Easter on The Comfort Crisis: Is Optimizing Life Making Us Weaker?
Yeah.
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Episode 397: Michael Easter on The Comfort Crisis: Is Optimizing Life Making Us Weaker?
Well, you know, I totally agree. You know, it's interesting. Even when you were talking, we're talking about sleep a little bit. Is that like they have all these rules and regulations of like how to fall asleep, how to have the best sleep, no blue light, no screens, no this. But truthfully, like I like to I love like comedy. I love stand up comedy.
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Episode 397: Michael Easter on The Comfort Crisis: Is Optimizing Life Making Us Weaker?
Like I fall asleep to stand up comedy and it makes me like, it puts me in a happy, good mood. And I go to bed like that. So like, right. So like all these rules and regulations and what you should do, what you shouldn't do. Like, I believe like there's so many variables. Everyone's so different. Like what works for you, Michael's. I mean, it's not going to work for me.
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Episode 397: Michael Easter on The Comfort Crisis: Is Optimizing Life Making Us Weaker?
Like you like Real Housewives. I like, you know, I like watching Chris, you know, whatever. I like, I like watching whoever, like Chris Rock, whoever, you know what I mean? So I find that.
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Episode 397: Michael Easter on The Comfort Crisis: Is Optimizing Life Making Us Weaker?
You know, people are fine. So this is the thing, right? So this is why I really love this comfort crisis, whatever. And also the scarcity brain. Like I find like we've made our cult, we've made our society so soft where we have like to sleep. Now you're going to do it in this position and in this darkness and at the temperature of 65 or else you're not like we're making people so fragile. Right.
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Episode 397: Michael Easter on The Comfort Crisis: Is Optimizing Life Making Us Weaker?
Like actually doing hard things or putting yourself like in a situation where you're going to be uncomfortable actually like build a lot of mental stamina and like doesn't make you such like such a snowflake.
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Episode 397: Michael Easter on The Comfort Crisis: Is Optimizing Life Making Us Weaker?
You know what? It's being able to be malleable and flexible. In the world of wellness and health, in the guise of wellness and health, we've lost the ability to be healthy and well. right? Like it's a hundred percent what's happened. I mean, this podcast is called Habits and Hustle, right? So you can imagine I have everybody on here talking about their habits and their hustle.
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Episode 397: Michael Easter on The Comfort Crisis: Is Optimizing Life Making Us Weaker?
Some of these morning routines, by the way, also night routines are so laborious. I don't even know how you have a job or a family because you're, you're doing your morning routine until like three o'clock in the afternoon. Like, I think it's, it's also breeding a lot of like narcissism, right?
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Episode 397: Michael Easter on The Comfort Crisis: Is Optimizing Life Making Us Weaker?
Like I have to do, I got to put myself in these situations to be, I got to, I got to do my, my, my, my, my sauna, my cold plunge. I got to meditate. I got a journal. I got to do my gratitude. I got to eat a piece of protein. Then I got to go work out and then I got to rock. And I'm like, do you work? Do you have like any responsibilities or you're just routining all day?
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Episode 397: Michael Easter on The Comfort Crisis: Is Optimizing Life Making Us Weaker?
That's, that's basically how I view it. Anyway, I agree with you. That's why I was like actually asking you, like, I think there's a book there right there, but don't, I mean, I think there's a book and how like we've, we've, we've made ourselves like mentally unwell by all the wealth things where all the mentally or of all the wellness things we're doing, you know? Yeah, totally.
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Episode 397: Michael Easter on The Comfort Crisis: Is Optimizing Life Making Us Weaker?
So don't steal my idea. No, I'm joking. I think you should write it. But I know you're not feeling well. I know you have COVID, poor boy. And you still came on this podcast. And I really appreciate it. And maybe when you're in LA next, we can do it in person. I don't love doing these things online like this. It's kind of wonky for me. Yeah, we'll do it.
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Episode 397: Michael Easter on The Comfort Crisis: Is Optimizing Life Making Us Weaker?
I would love to meet you in person. We can dive deeper in both. But thank you so much for being on the show. I really appreciate it. I hope you feel better.
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Episode 397: Michael Easter on The Comfort Crisis: Is Optimizing Life Making Us Weaker?
Well, God bless you. I love what you're doing. I think you've nailed it. And so I can't wait to see more of your stuff. And I'm also going to subscribe to your newsletter, which I meant to do. Awesome.
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Episode 397: Michael Easter on The Comfort Crisis: Is Optimizing Life Making Us Weaker?
Don't forget. Do you have my email? No. Okay. I will get it off this. I will get it. And I definitely want you to send that to me. Yeah, will do. Sounds good. Thank you, Michael. I hope you feel better. I'll talk to you later.
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Episode 397: Michael Easter on The Comfort Crisis: Is Optimizing Life Making Us Weaker?
So is it that companies really understand the schedule? So if they understand that loop, then they have technology that's based around creating, basically working on the human psychology of at what point do people get anxious if they don't look at something or do something? Is it like... Is there a particular speed? Is there a particular... What is that? What is the actual precision?
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Episode 397: Michael Easter on The Comfort Crisis: Is Optimizing Life Making Us Weaker?
Is it the same with the algorithm and it is with slot machines? Because what I found interesting, and you talk about this, is the slot machine, when it was a handle versus when it was a digital form... When it became digital, you just press a button, the amount of usage for slot machines like skyrocketed.
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Episode 397: Michael Easter on The Comfort Crisis: Is Optimizing Life Making Us Weaker?
And because of that, I think mine was much more about kids and how building mental strength and toughness has been, it's, it's becoming a problem in a very soft world. And I think a big part of it is because of boredom. We've, we've lost that ability.
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Episode 397: Michael Easter on The Comfort Crisis: Is Optimizing Life Making Us Weaker?
I guess that's a dope. Isn't that like a dopamine hit, though?
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Episode 397: Michael Easter on The Comfort Crisis: Is Optimizing Life Making Us Weaker?
And so like, it's crazy. Like even like, do you know, have you heard of a company called Rakuten?
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Episode 397: Michael Easter on The Comfort Crisis: Is Optimizing Life Making Us Weaker?
Okay, well, it's like these companies that now are like these, if you're online shopping and you can save money for every dollar you buy, right? They also call it, like there's been a ton of like funny like memes on like it's called like girl math, right? Like, oh, you know, like I just got $7 because I spent $700.
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Episode 397: Michael Easter on The Comfort Crisis: Is Optimizing Life Making Us Weaker?
So I made $7, you know, because they say whatever you buy today, lucky day, you're going to get 10% back of whatever you buy. People that end up buying so much thinking that they're actually making money. You're actually not making any money. You're losing money because you're spending all this money.
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Episode 397: Michael Easter on The Comfort Crisis: Is Optimizing Life Making Us Weaker?
You know what I mean? And it's like this like crazy Jedi mind trick that they do on you. And it's kind of similar with slot machines, right? Because you put a dollar in, you get eventually get a quarter back and you think, oh, my God, I'm making money now. Right. Even though you've lost like 20 bucks. Yeah.
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Episode 397: Michael Easter on The Comfort Crisis: Is Optimizing Life Making Us Weaker?
Oh, my God. It's so brilliant, though, because I'm and by the way, I'm a victim of it, too, even though I know better. And I know that like it's all playing on a certain like psychosis or psychological human behavior. I still I still do it. It's also they used to have like scratch and save days, you know, when you go to a store and like whatever you scratch like today, 10 percent.
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Episode 397: Michael Easter on The Comfort Crisis: Is Optimizing Life Making Us Weaker?
And then you talked about that a little bit, which is an interesting, I didn't realize, I didn't realize, like, I was like, oh my God, I really like this guy now. Like you kind of make, you kind of make mention of it also, like what the benefits of boredom are and like how the world has evolved to not having it anymore.
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Episode 397: Michael Easter on The Comfort Crisis: Is Optimizing Life Making Us Weaker?
And like, oh, wow. So they end up buying the whole store thinking or Costco. Think about Costco.
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Costco's amazing with it. And so I guess my question to you is like, if we know better, right? Like this becomes a whole big existential thing. Like, you know, why do we do behaviors that we know otherwise, like we know we're doing things that we know are otherwise not good for us or not necessary, but we still pursue it. Why is this?
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Episode 397: Michael Easter on The Comfort Crisis: Is Optimizing Life Making Us Weaker?
No, no, absolutely. I find it. But I guess the question is, how do we stop ourselves really from wanting more? If even if when we know better, like how do how do we do that?
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Episode 397: Michael Easter on The Comfort Crisis: Is Optimizing Life Making Us Weaker?
I know. Let's talk about it. Go ahead. We're starting.
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That's how we start here. We go right into it.
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Episode 397: Michael Easter on The Comfort Crisis: Is Optimizing Life Making Us Weaker?
Well, what's interesting is that it took an app to stop you from using apps. Like, that's not really lost on me. You know what I mean?
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Episode 397: Michael Easter on The Comfort Crisis: Is Optimizing Life Making Us Weaker?
Thank you for being here. This is Michael Easter. He's a two-time New York Times bestseller. Did the scarcity brain become a New York Times bestseller?
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Episode 397: Michael Easter on The Comfort Crisis: Is Optimizing Life Making Us Weaker?
What do you mean grayscale? What does that mean? What do you mean?
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Episode 397: Michael Easter on The Comfort Crisis: Is Optimizing Life Making Us Weaker?
Wow. Is there like an override button though? Like, so for an example, if I put, I only want to be on Instagram for 10 minutes a day, can I override that?
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Episode 397: Michael Easter on The Comfort Crisis: Is Optimizing Life Making Us Weaker?
That defeats the whole purpose though.
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
Almost everybody I know, and by the way, besides me, because I'm like super scared of hormone therapy, but every guy I know over the age of let's say 40 is now being supplemented by testosterone and all these things. And they're like, wow, I never felt better. I never looked as good. I'm leaner than ever. And they're putting them on lots of other things too. They're microdosing GLP-1s.
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
They're doing all sorts of shit. And they think that this makes them super healthy because their inflammation is getting lower, all these things. And my spidey sense tells me that is not the right thing. There can't be a world where everybody now is now being over-supplemented with stuff to look good for the moment. There has to be some kind of backlash somewhere else.
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
No, I'm a PhD. I'm kidding, I'm kidding. I never play a doctor. Do you say this because you think you're going to get in trouble?
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
I mean, you probably have a lot, but you're a PhD, you're a professor, and you do a lot of research on this constantly.
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
But you're not a medical doctor. Okay, fine. Good.
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or anything like that.
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How do you, how do you resolve it though?
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
Okay. So like the core, I get the stressors, but like, does that mean if you're doing, so that's confusing because they always say, well, if you like doing legs, like if you're doing a lot of strength training for your legs, your testosterone will go up, right? Is that not true?
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
Okay, but you're saying, though, is that a myth that if you do heavy leg workouts, it will increase your testosterone?
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
So then what, because I also, okay, maybe this is just my own myth, but because like someone like me who works out super hard, like it's like high intense a lot. Like I like to, you're going to hate this, but I love to run. I like to do things that make me sweat, make me feel psychologically like I've done something.
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
Which then I feel like, I mean, this is my own self-diagnosis, but then I have adrenal fatigue or my cortisol is always really high. Would that make my testosterone extra low because it's constant for many, many years of constant banging on my body like that?
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
Yes.
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
So some people can work fine and no problem. And then other people, so how do you know? What are some symptoms of cortisol dysfunction then?
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
So what's the solution? What do you tell people to do?
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
There's no way. Because if you work with high performers on the regular, you know that's not even an option for your brain, right? It's not, right? There's no chance in hell that I would not work out for two weeks just because my brain would be shut off. No, I didn't say it didn't work out. Okay. Just do some basic walking? No, no, no, no, no, no. Okay.
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
I mean, me personally? I don't know. That's all we're talking about here, right?
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
Because overtraining is a real thing, right? So it sounds to me like cortisol dysfunction is very similar to overtraining, really.
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
Okay. I'm glad I'm unique.
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
No, no, no, yeah. Yeah. Because other things happen, right? Not just me, by the way. A lot of people, their mental health takes a nosedive, right? Because then they lose the motivation, the focus, the productivity, your mood. If I don't work out or if I don't do some kind of cardio first thing, even though I know cardio, blah, blah, blah. I know strength training is like the king.
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
But if I don't do cardio, my brain just doesn't turn on the same way.
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
So you work, because I saw that you do like every modality of sports. You do like baseball players, wrestlers, UFC people, like Olympians of all kinds. So my first question then is like, if it's physiology that you're looking at, then it really is individual, right? It's all very personalized, right? It can't just be a one-for-all type of situation.
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
Right. It's like more of a distraction. No question.
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
So a lot of this is mental. In your particular case. No, no, no. I'm saying, but I think it is. I think a lot of people who exercise a lot, maybe at a high intensity, or it's more of an addiction, maybe because it's a distraction, right?
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
To something else that needs to be managed and taken care of.
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
And the second thing is, does that mean that genetics actually matter for someone's human performance? Well, we'll go backwards.
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
Thank you.
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Thank you.
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
So talent supersedes everything, really? Starting point. Okay.
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
Thank you. Thank you.
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Thank you.
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
And it's basically a healthy shot to help you with your focus and being alert. And since you're a high performance guy, I thought of all the people I should be doing this shot with, it is you. Oh my goodness. Yeah, because, you know, hold on, you guys shake it first. And then we like, you know, we open around with cheers. And then of course, we do it. Yeah. Can you shake it though?
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
By the way, again, I used to wear those trackers and all the things. And honestly, it gives you more anxiety because you're checking everything all the time. You're checking your sleep. Did I sleep okay? Did I not sleep okay? Did I sleep too high, too little by REM? So many of these things actually make your health worse, not better.
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
I have one more question about strength, then I want to move on to nutrition. Okay, but so like, is there a particular, are there training mistakes that people are making or like the do's and don'ts of training? And because, you know, people who are like middle, like, you know, 40s, 50s, is strength training the, would you say is the number one, I guess, exercise modality?
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
Because when I said, the reason I'm asking you this is because when I said I have to do cardio in the morning, you're like, oh, that's okay. Most people who I would ask that to would be like, oh my God, no, you're like breaking down your muscles. You should be doing strength training only. They go through this whole thing of like, they cardio shame me, right? Oh, no.
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
And so you didn't do that and you're the scientist behind it. So would you say that it's cardio okay? Yeah.
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
No, you didn't do that.
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
I'm saying you did the opposite.
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
Oh yeah. Well, people say that like, you know, you're like that you can cardio can break cardio breaks down your muscle mass, especially as you age, it makes you hungrier, which it does. That's true. Also it's a stressor, which it is.
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
What if you want to do all of that, but also look good? No, I got you. I got you.
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
So it's more about energy expenditure.
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I've heard of that before. Did this other guy create that program?
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
So running is basically the worst in terms of breaking down your muscle.
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
See, I think, so I thought like, okay, if I'm running like three or four miles a day, let's say, you know, for 40, 45 minutes, that's not as bad as like, when I look at endurance runners or people who are running like 10 miles plus or like. Oh yeah. Like running like.
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
50, 100, yeah. You look at them and I hate to say it, but they do look like flabby skinny fat. You know, they don't have the aesthetics that I think that most people are trying to get. They may be thin. Yeah. But they're not toned. So how do I get, what's the delicate balance then? You're saying there is no delicate balance?
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
Oh, it has. Okay. Because someone else pitched me who wrote a book called Arete. Do you know the guy I'm talking about?
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
Because also you're saying because A, because it's energy expenditure, right? There's always so much energy you can put. It's true. Because what happens is there's only time in the day, right? So if you're doing too much cardio, you're not leaving enough time in terms of time, energy to put it. Because what I'll do is I'll run and be like, oh, I'll do my weights later. And then- it always suffers.
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
I'll do like 10 minutes.
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Exactly. I'll do it, but not as hard as I would have if I didn't. Right.
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
Oh, okay. Because I saw that on your website. I was like, what the hell is this?
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
Does there, is there any kind of physiological difference between doing cardio first or strength?
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
There is myths on that too.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was a mindset guy. Okay. Yeah, yeah.
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
That makes perfect sense to me, right? Because these UFC fighters, boxers, whoever, they're doing their fights at night. So they also have to be the most optimal at night.
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
That makes perfect sense.
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
So even an NBA player, LeBron or whoever, are they doing their heaviest or their most intense workouts late in the day because of that reason?
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
And so your energy expenditure has to go in that game.
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Yeah. Like you can see them. They're not, they don't look like they're like the most, uh, you know, prowess looking athletes of all time.
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
But that makes perfect sense. So like a regular person who like works a normal day, probably then just by based on what you're saying, working out first thing in the morning or in the morning should be their highest. That's when they're going to have the most energy.
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
Well, because by the way, like at three o'clock in the afternoon, if you go ask me to have my best workout, I'll be very tired.
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
You really? But you're not an NBA star, are you?
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
What time do you wake up?
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
Why is your morning routine four hours also?
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
Okay. What is your, okay. I want to ask you about that.
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Okay.
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Yeah.
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Normally when you have little kids, you wake up earlier.
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
Right. Okay. Okay.
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
That's what it means. Okay. I didn't even know that. I didn't get that far. Yeah.
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
So wait, so how is that possible? If you're waking up so early, aren't you depleted though by two o'clock?
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
But why? How is that possible? What time are you going to bed at night?
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
So then that kind of just takes the whole thing about working. If you're someone who is, is like fighting, let's say at night training, you know, later on in the day is really important because that's when you have to have your optimal energy or an NBA player, whatever.
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
But if you're going to bed at eight o'clock, like a granny, wouldn't you think that you're going to have more energy, like at 10 o'clock in the morning?
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
So that's where you're putting your energy expenditure. Okay, so what's your morning routine?
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Significantly later. How old are your kids?
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
Oh, okay, so yeah.
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To accommodate that.
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
So really your only big thing is you want to like have fresh air or outdoor stuff.
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Right.
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
So you're into, okay, so breakfast. So let's get into the nutrition. Okay, but did I even, did we finish the training and the training mistakes?
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
That was good, right? Yeah. Is there any particular big mistake that people make?
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
So lack of structure is one huge training mistake people make. And then moving from program to program or thing to thing randomly. Yep. What about plateauing? Because that's how people plateau or is it completely different? Because how... I find that's a problem. Like if you're someone who works out regularly at a moderate to intense level, you do plateau or you're just maintaining.
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How can you break through a plateau?
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
Can you give me a Cool's Notes version of two and a half hours, please?
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
Yeah, even two minutes is fine.
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
Well, that's the problem. Also, you know, that's exactly because it's so incredibly difficult to lose two pounds of body fat, but it's so easy to lose 30 pounds, right? Sure. Right? Isn't that like the biggest loser whole thing, right? Of course. Remember this show, The Biggest Loser? They lost 40 pounds in the first week, right? Sure.
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
But when you get down to the nitty gritty, those like the minute minutiae, like... For someone like me to lose a pound of fat is so much more, you have to be so precise in everything you do because you're already doing so much, right?
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Right?
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
So like even people with all these things we're talking about, right? With the red light, the this, the supplements. Yeah, like if you're doing everything, it's hard to know what works, what doesn't work, how much everything is working because you're doing everything.
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
Right? Right.
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Exactly.
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
How important then is recovery to then the plateau?
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
Okay, so here's my question for you. I wrote it down. Let me just make sure I didn't. So like for the recovery, yeah, what's the most critical components of recovery that people overlook?
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
Right. But like you were saying earlier too, a lot of that, a lot of sleep unfortunately is about like other stressors in your life. If you have a lot of other stressors in your life, it will affect your sleep. It's hard not to.
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
Yeah, I thought it was menopause or whatever. It was like, it could be everything.
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
Well, you mentioned something on a podcast about an environmental scanner.
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
What is it? What is this thing though? What's the scanner?
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
Can someone just use this scanner?
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How expensive is it?
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More than $15?
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
So you can't just get the environmental scanner. Damn, I thought you can just buy one.
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
Really?
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
Yeah, I know, I know, I know. I'm just thinking that. So basically, so when someone comes into your office or your lab or whatever, your facility, do you have a facility?
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
Like how? Like, you know, blue light, you know, and if you go, like, you know, when you go in the hotel room, you see all that shit that you see with the blue light. Totally. Is it the same thing?
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
It's like the genetic test, right? People then over-focus on that stuff.
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
Wow. My God. Okay.
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
So it's basically telemedicine type of thing?
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
Yours is much more green than mine. It's a different batch, I guess. Do you like it?
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
Okay, so let's say, because I've had a ton of people come over and like take a ton of blood for me, right? Like all those blood. And everyone now has like, it's like now who can take the most blood? Like how many markers can someone test? It was like 50. Now it's 75. Now it's 180. We take a lot more than that.
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
So my first question is, well, I've had my first question, my eighth question by now, but how many markers do you check for when you do your blood? Like when you test for someone, what are the most important markers?
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
Because what I heard you once say, which I found very interesting, kind of one of the reasons why I wanted to have you on the show is that you're saying that when you get people's results, You don't even do things based on that necessarily. So that to me was very interesting. Like how do you then give someone a program if it's not even based on what their results are off of the blood work?
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
I found that very interesting.
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
Like me, let's say I call you up, like a regular person who's been working out a long time, who's pretty high up there in terms of like my fitness level and my regimen and various structured routine. But I want to be optimal. I want to be, right?
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
No, no, no. Horrible.
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
Horrible. So that's why I like this one. But now you're going to tell me at the end of the podcast if it helped you at all. And I want you to be honest.
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
Okay, so you guys, we have today Dr. Andy Galpin, who is a human performance scientist. I got that right, right? Yeah, nailed it. I love that. I want you to, before we even start, but before I even get into that, let's just do our quick healthy shot. We do this on the podcast. We take this, we take a shot. I've had like a hundred of them. And it's basically, it's by a company called Magic Mind.
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
Oh my gosh. No, no, no. Okay. First of all, like number one, like I said, before we even started rolling, I was really excited to have you on the show because you go so into the weeds. You're very science-based, obviously. You're a professor. You've worked with like literally every single athlete on the planet. because you are a high performance scientist. But what is that?
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
What?
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
Right. So then what do you do? How do you take into consideration all these other things? You have to go next level. Okay.
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
And it could just be as simple as just being dehydrated.
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
Right. So I was going to say, because if like for an example, right, if I'm feeling kind of lethargic and tired, I was getting over a flu or whatever, flying, whatever it was, and then I got my blood taken, my markers will be very different that time than it would be in a week's time.
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
Like, what is the, because when I was reading your bio without, I mean, I did my own kind of like knowledge and research, but then when I got your bio, it gave me all these, like all these things you have, like your PhD and all that. What is a high performance scientist?
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Episode 431: Dr. Andy Galpin: Why Fitness Trackers and Bloodwork Are Misleading You
Well, what I find interesting, again, is that especially in the last few years, I feel a lot of this telemedicine, a lot of these clinics have popped up. And if testosterone's low, right, they just automatically put you on testosterone. They automatically give you hormone therapy.
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
We have a very special and different guest today on the podcast. We have Captain Jason Chambers. He is the captain of the ship on Below Deck, which is a massive hit on Bravo. Most of you guys probably watch it. I think I'm probably the only person who doesn't watch the show. right? Like I met just, just kind of like give you some like background.
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
Wow. Yeah, it's been fun. Have you ever done TV before?
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
I was going to say that, you know, I saw it yesterday in the green room because they were promoing me coming up next or whatever. And so they promoed both of us, I guess. And you were wearing this like wet t-shirt or something coming out of the boat. And they were like, oh, the sexiest man on Bravo, which is a whole other thing. So how did you get this whole sexiest man on React? No comment.
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
No, no, no, no, no. Jason, you're on this podcast. You have to tell me.
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
Well, who called you this? Is it just some name that you, like the Bravo executives decided to call you?
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
Or is it all the women who are constantly asking about you or like?
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
Are you serious? I'm asking.
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
You know what it is? That's probably why they like you and why they think you're sexy is because you have like a humility to you. That's what's actually what's sexy about you.
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
Well, you being like this right now is actually sexy. And I'm not hitting on you. I'm just saying. I'm not. I'm not hitting on him. I'm just saying because if you were this arrogant guy who was like coming out here and trying to be all like, you know, thinking that you're like this hot thing. That's unattractive. That's a turnoff.
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
But if you're like, oh, shucks, come on, like all this humility, try and do all these nice things with these kids. I mean, that's why the ladies like you. I could totally understand, right? Bravo executive over here, right?
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
Yeah. Are you doing all the shirt? So like, what is all, I haven't seen them, but like, are you doing like billboards with your shirt off?
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
But wait, wait, wait. You're like, you're brushing off this whole like sexiest man on reality TV thing. So like, do you get DMs from women like all day, all night?
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
But you do, basically.
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
And so I'm going to ask the Bravo lady. So how did you decide that Jason was going to be the sexiest man on Bravo? Is it because you guys just noticed the influx of women who are constantly asking about him versus anybody else on the show? Well, is that really how? Yeah. But, like, who else do you guys even have on Bravo?
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
No, no, who else? What other guys are on Bravo that are, like, a big name?
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
I met Jason yesterday in the green room at California live. I was doing a segment on parenting and raising, you know, resilient children. And Jason was in, uh, the green room and I figured why not get him on my podcast, even though in full transparency, I've never watched the show, but like, I do know it is a very popular show. So anyway, thank you for being here.
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
Most of them are, like, just, like, you know, women who are... Like the whole package, right? And so then you just kind of create this whole thing around it. I'm leaning in. You're leaning in. Okay, I like that. And he's embarrassed, which makes it even better and all the other things.
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
Yeah, exactly. How many people watch Below Deck? What's the numbers? I think...
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
Why 30 people? Is 30 people for that type of size boat a normal size crew?
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
So the crew is who, the captain?
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
Okay, no, no, no, not the TV people, just in general.
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
And because you're also enclosed in such a small environment, there must be a lot of drama and relationships that actually form. You said earlier that the mom of your daughter was the chef?
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
But was she a chef for another boat?
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
But you guys never met on a boat together? No, no. That was just a coincidence.
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
Oh, because you're friends with a lot of the same people who are crew.
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
Right. That's crazy. I mean, that's a small quarters to be with. Have you ever had any relationships with people in your crew ever?
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
On Bravo? No, not on Bravo.
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
What's your day-to-day look like? Break it down. Walk me through what a day in the life of a captain would be.
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
Oh, I love that. So that's, yeah. So basically I was like doing the segment and then Jason pulls out his phone and showed me all these amazing cute pictures of his daughter who loves to climb trees. And basically what we, I think we bonded on the fact that tech like on the West or in the West, you know, Western civilization, the U S people are just stuck on their phones and on social media and,
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
What time do you guys wake up? For a Bravo, when you're filming for Bravo.
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
Right, right, right. You know. How do you guys have like, because, you know, you're out in the, you know, you're out in the outdoors, but how do you maintain like a healthy life? Like you obviously said that you really care about before even off camera, like longevity and health and wellness. And we're going to get into your whole story.
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
is it hard to take care of your health when you're like confined to like a boat underneath and you have to do a certain structured schedule? Like you, like there's not much time to kind of like even have like, if you have like downtime, are you stuck going to your room or like, are you allowed to like wander around the boat? Like what happens? Yeah.
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
What are your habits? What do you do every day?
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
That's fair. Do you stretch for half an hour?
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
He was on here too.
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
I like Wim Hof. He's very nice.
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
It is. Yeah. So wait, because you said earlier too, your daughter lives in Bali. Now you live in Bali. But you said you didn't see her for a year.
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
And basically being bored or playing outside has become null and void. And so when you said to me about your daughter, how she's like the antithesis, like living and growing up in Bali, which we'll get into, is completely different. There's no such thing as that type of lifestyle.
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
Is it because your schedule with the- I was sort of COVID.
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
But normally that's not the case.
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
So how do you have like a regular, how do you have a life with like anybody?
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
Also, how does anyone have a relationship or have kids?
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
Because there's a lot of time away. There's no consistency in terms of spending time.
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
Well, there's no rhythm.
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
There's no rhythm. Like it's constantly like upheaval and like, you know, growing apart. And then you come back and it's like, they already went on with their lives a little bit. And then you're kind of, so how do you, even with the kid, like you, what I think is amazing.
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
And I noticed this yesterday when we met is like any moment you can mention your daughter, you do like, you love your child so much, which is like beautiful. I love that. It must be really hard to be away from her like that much. Yeah.
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
Yeah.
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
Is that what you do on the boat? Because you can tell me about that.
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
Thank you.
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
Thank you. Thank you.
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
Thank you.
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
This case, I want to get all into what you do also with the charity, with your daughter. But let's start from the beginning. Okay, so you're a captain on this boat. And so how long were you a captain before you became a captain on this big show?
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
Thank you.
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
Thank you.
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
So wasn't there, okay, now you're gonna see how completely, I'm gonna sound like a complete idiot. I remember looking at, watching commercials and there was a man who had like a beard and he had a gray hair. He looked like he was like much older as the captain. Was that like a different show?
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
Wow, I love that.
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
She did not want to?
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
What a beautiful lesson that you just taught your child.
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
I think it's... So she has gratitude just from having that environment. What's amazing to me is just the difference in terms of just where you raised your child, how they grow up, in terms of their mentality, their... needs, their desires, like, like because she never stepped foot here in America, right? She doesn't know from, from all this.
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
She doesn't know from the fact that every kid here is stuck on their, on their phone and they won't play outside or they don't do play dates or they are on social media. Like they're not doing that back there. Yeah.
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
How much do you give her the iPad?
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
Oh, okay. But you regulate it and you monitor it.
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
No, they should. That's an imagination.
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
We do have, I mean, entrepreneurs do have it. You have to have, well, that's because, well, I mean, this is how the whole thing, like I believe that we need to be bored sometimes. And when we were kids, I was always bored, but that's where I believe, you know, boredom kind of breeds brilliance in a way, right? Because that's where creativity lives. That's where you think of different things.
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
Like if you're not bored and you're constantly distracted all the time, you're never going to get those light bulb, like those moments of genius. Yeah.
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
Exactly. So then if you're doing this stuff, like, you know, with the show six weeks on, whatever, and then you do your pickups, how do you spend the rest of your time?
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
How old is your father?
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
Did they actually diagnose him with Alzheimer's? Yeah. How did they know? Did they do an MRI and scan his brain?
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
How many versions of the show is there?
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
So you're doing, do you have a coach or you're coaching?
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
So this is, so it's funny, the podcast is called Habits and Hustle, right? For a reason, right? Because it's basically the habits and hustle of like the most successful people and the best experts and how they got from place A to place to point A to point B. So we talk a lot.
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
I'm in place A. Well, next time you'll be here, you'll be at place B and then C. But what I talk about, my entire platform is really based around discipline. You rely on discipline. You don't rely on motivation because motivation wanes. So does willpower to muscle. Yeah. It doesn't, it doesn't last. So discipline is how you get from A to B and being consistent is, it's not about talent.
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
It's really about being consistent day to day. It's not the most intense, but it's the most often like that. And it's also the most boring stuff, right? Like doing the same things day in, day out gives you that mindset of, you know, of, of being accountable to yourself.
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
Well, it's routine, right?
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
No, it's definitely not just saying it.
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
But you have to make habits. Like, that's why, you know, people laugh at me because I'm very regimented. But if you're not to a certain degree regimented, things don't get done, right? Like, if you have goals, you have to have some type of plan and you've got to execute on that plan or things will just like, you know, maybe it can happen, maybe it won't, right? Right.
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
But with your lifestyle, you have a very, very, like it's an all over the place lifestyle, right? Like you're on a boat, then you're not on a boat. It's like you may have work, you may not have work.
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
Have you ever tried this creatine?
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
Oh, the magic mind. By the way, we totally forgot about this. We have to do this shot. Normally we do this at the beginning of the podcast, and I've had like a lot of these today.
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
Okay. But so it kind of, it's kind of like the Real Housewives basically, right? Like, well, no, only because it was a popular show. And so then they did, you know, Housewives of Beverly Hills, Housewives of Orange County, Housewives of New Jersey and like, and they, and on and on and on.
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
I know it does. And the ingredients, I wouldn't be even doing these shots if it didn't work. I've tried tons of these different types, and this one is by far the ingredients are the best. Try it. Oh, cheers. Okay.
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
Really? Did you shake it enough?
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
Yeah. I've got to shake it and then now you're going to be super focused for someone else's podcast.
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
I will, I will definitely set you up with them because this is a great company. Also creatine. Have you tried this? I love the momentous creatine. It'd be perfect for you because they do these travels. Now I'm going to show you. They're like, you can take it with you and you can just, there's, there are individual packs. Do you do creatine?
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
Good. So like these are the things, like these are like habits that you can get into that are healthy.
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
Like these little travel packs. Do you do any kind of other wellness modalities? Like do you do red light? Do you do the sauna? Do you do all those things?
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
You mean infrared sauna or?
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
You've never tried it before?
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
Well, it's, I'm going to, I'm going to, you're going to leave here today with like so many like wellness gifts because I love this thing. It's called the tri-light red light. It's a, it's a red light by this company called Therasage who has like, in my opinion, the best red light, but I travel with it and you can like, it's like a, a panel and And then you can put it wherever. Perfect.
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
So you can put it on your leg. You can put it on your face.
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
Did you get nauseous with the NAD?
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
How long did it take?
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
Yeah, I mean, like, that's actually a lot. Well, if it takes, like, if you, you know, if you do it really, really fast, I get so nauseous on those things.
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
Right. I mean, I think tequilas would be better than the shot. But are you a drinker then? Because you are from... I do.
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Right. So, yeah, because I think drinking, in my opinion, is like the number one most terrible thing you can do for your body.
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
I like steak. Steak's good. That's protein.
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
Can you have it with something else, like a carbonated water?
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
Nootropics is usually like a brain supplement of some kind.
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
So it mimics the drink.
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
There's so much of the stuff. I mean, it's so overwhelming. This is now like, this is my life. And every day I'm like noticing, I'm getting, I'm talking. I mean, it's like, there's so much of all of this.
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
So you're actually a real captain on the show. It's not just bullshit that you're just, you're not just playing a captain on TV.
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
Oh, so you are doing a lot of side hustles.
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
Yeah. So yeah. Well, I usually do. Bravo needs to pay you more apparently.
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
Wow. Where are you going to sell it?
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
Have you not promoted this at all yet? No. Are you going to have someone try to get it into the department stores? No.
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
Who's making it? Does someone come to you and say, hey?
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
It's all you?
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
Who paid for all the manufacturing?
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
Really? Do you have an agent?
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
You don't have an agent or anything. So it's just basically like you going out there and like making your own deals. Yeah. Wow. Do you think maybe you should get an agent or? Don't know. Really?
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
I'm going to give you some business 101.
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
You're on a big reality show. This is my little like, you're on a major, major reality show on Bravo. The women obviously really like you according to Bravo. Why would you not get an agent to find you some like endorsement deals? and some speaking gigs.
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
I mean, I would think, I mean, I think that would be like a, that would be the next evolution of your career.
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
You're just like a captain of a boat and like this whole thing just happened.
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
So wait a minute. So no agent has reached out to you. No manager.
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
But those are big ones. Like Johnson & Johnson, like Invisalign. Those pay like a lot of money.
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
So if you had an agent or somebody to go up there and pitch you more regularly or an agency, you'd be getting things like that all the time. Let's go.
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
Of course it would, because you're a nice guy.
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
That's amazing. You know, I have an idea for you. You know what you'd do great at, I think, because of who would watch it? Like, if you were to do, like, some kind of, like, partnership with, like, a QVC or an HSN, because the people who watch QVC and HSN, there's, like, the shopping networks, are the same people who are watching reality TV.
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
They love reality, you know, they love The Real Housewives. I'm sure they love your show, Below Deck. If you were to do like some kind of partnership with them, they would be able to make this so you wouldn't have to pay for the manufacturing or any of that. And then they could put you on the show and you would basically sell on their, you know, block of time.
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
And the women would love to see you because they love you probably already.
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
I think shirt off would probably do better.
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
But maybe you could do like a tight tank top.
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
But to me, that would be like a great money gig for you. And that way, like right now, you're paying for the manufacturing of this, right? You're paying for all of this. Like all that heavy lifting is coming from your pocket. Yep. Yeah. And so like you would – like this is what I – like I think it's a no-brainer.
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
There are people who I meet in LA who literally don't have even half of what you have. They don't even have – like they have like one season of some, you know, bow-dunk horrible reality show from some shitty network. And they're out there with their agents and their managers and their publicists trying to like hawk something.
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
You're actually like a really decent guy who's got a very nice way about you on a massive hit show three seasons in. Yeah. And like you're making your own perfume. Are you kidding me right now?
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
I'm going to give you more. I mean, listen, I'm like shocked at what I'm hearing. I mean, you know this, right? From your Bravo friend, Hayley.
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
No, they're not going to help you with that. But if you were really touted like the sexiest man on Bravo or sexiest reality star, that headline itself, you can leverage that to so many different endorsement deals. You can probably get a book deal. I could make you millions of dollars by next year.
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
How are you not doing this?
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
I'll give you business advice later. Okay. So guys, this is, he's the nicest guy, Captain Jason. Thank you. Watch season three of Below Deck and you'll come back when you're at point B, right? Yeah, please do.
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
They actually pay for it?
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
I'll help you get from A to B. That would be great. I'll help you in the middle. So where do people find you? So promote where you can be found.
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
Thank you. Okay, guys, go watch his show and go follow him on Instagram. Bye-bye.
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
Wow.
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
Okay. I've got so many questions now. Okay. So you said so much stuff. Okay. So doesn't Bravo just pick people to be on the boat?
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
Right, so these are all people who actually do this job legitimately.
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
And so it's not always the same crew. No. But you're the captain, which means you're always consistent on the show. So does your crew always change?
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
Okay, so then the people who are renting the boat, they're actually paying to be on the show with the show?
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
Oh, wow.
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
So what kind of tips do you guys get?
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
$20,000?
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
For three days.
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
Oh, you have to split everything. Everything goes into a pot. Yeah. Okay. And so are the, so the people that are, I guess the guests of the boat, instead of paying 300,000 or whatever, they're paying 70 or 80 and they're picked by Bravo.
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
So I was going to say, so the more difficult the guest is, I guess the better the show is for –
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
How do they fit? Like, how do you guys all sleep on the boat? Like the whole crew and the get, how many bedrooms are on these boats?
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
So 12 guests.
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
And where do you, like, are you guys sleeping, like, are you guys triple bunking?
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
Right. So it's not really about the guests on the show.
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
So which show performs the best? Is the Down Under that you're on the most popular?
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
The Down Under one?
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
Oh, my God.
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
Oh, okay. Well, that's not bad. Have you ever done any celebrities? Have you taken any celebrities on these trips?
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
No, besides the show, like in real life, have you done?
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
You're not 100% sure? And was that like a 500,000? Anna Archer. Anna Archer. She was an actress. Oh, Anna Archer. I remember her from Fatal Attraction.
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
Yeah.
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
But you also did Fatal Attraction. She was the wife.
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
Right. That was like her big thing. And those guys are paying 500,000 a week.
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
Okay. And then were they nice? Was Jennifer Lopez nice?
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
Oh, your first season ever, like doing it?
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
In real life? Yeah, in real life. So the guy who was the wolf of Wall Street was here, and it was the most fascinating podcast.
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
He was telling me all sorts of stuff. I've seen the movie, of course, but he was telling me the movie didn't give, it was not even a sliver of what really happened in real life.
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
Oh, wow. Because he was saying some bad words himself.
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
Oh, yeah, exactly. So how do you even become a captain on the show? Did you get the audition?
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
That has nothing to do with being a captain of a boat?
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
They've never seen TV.
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Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts
But how did they even like, okay, so how did they know to find you? Like,
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Episode 405: Tali Edut: Using Astrology for Career Success and Work Styles + Why Your Moon Sign Matters
Hi guys, it's Tony Robbins. You're listening to Habits & Hustle. Crush it. All right, you guys, you're in for a treat. This is going to be a really fun podcast. Today we have one of the astro twins. Her name is Tali Adut.
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Episode 405: Tali Edut: Using Astrology for Career Success and Work Styles + Why Your Moon Sign Matters
Yeah, exactly. Exactly.
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Episode 405: Tali Edut: Using Astrology for Career Success and Work Styles + Why Your Moon Sign Matters
Listen, I like it, like I said, in my hobby, but now I'm bringing it to the podcast, which I'm excited about. So, by the way, Tali from Astro Twins, she's like half of the astro, we do these shots on the podcast. They're called... They're called Magic Minds. They're delicious. It's great for focus. It's great for just actually being alert, productivity. And it's all really clean, good ingredients.
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Episode 405: Tali Edut: Using Astrology for Career Success and Work Styles + Why Your Moon Sign Matters
But who doesn't want that?
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Episode 405: Tali Edut: Using Astrology for Career Success and Work Styles + Why Your Moon Sign Matters
I mean, who doesn't want a guy who can diversify like that?
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Episode 405: Tali Edut: Using Astrology for Career Success and Work Styles + Why Your Moon Sign Matters
Totally. I like practical for sure. But you're saying that, does that say that I like Leos and what's the other one?
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Episode 405: Tali Edut: Using Astrology for Career Success and Work Styles + Why Your Moon Sign Matters
Yeah, exactly. My nails always have to be on point. I do like my hair done. But even though I wear like... Yeah. Casual. I'm casual.
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Episode 405: Tali Edut: Using Astrology for Career Success and Work Styles + Why Your Moon Sign Matters
My work ethic is I feel like.
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Episode 405: Tali Edut: Using Astrology for Career Success and Work Styles + Why Your Moon Sign Matters
So my best sign would be Virgo.
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Episode 405: Tali Edut: Using Astrology for Career Success and Work Styles + Why Your Moon Sign Matters
But because people always say like Virgo does well with Capricorn or it's another Earth sign or a Taurus. Right. Right.
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Episode 405: Tali Edut: Using Astrology for Career Success and Work Styles + Why Your Moon Sign Matters
Why?
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Episode 405: Tali Edut: Using Astrology for Career Success and Work Styles + Why Your Moon Sign Matters
That's interesting. I always believe that people who have more in common with each other do better together, compatibility-wise. And that's kind of like a myth, urban legend or myth, that opposites attract. I don't believe that at all.
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Episode 405: Tali Edut: Using Astrology for Career Success and Work Styles + Why Your Moon Sign Matters
Yeah, I get that. That was like in my younger days, perhaps, I guess.
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Episode 405: Tali Edut: Using Astrology for Career Success and Work Styles + Why Your Moon Sign Matters
YouTube I do terrible. Instagram I do well.
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Episode 405: Tali Edut: Using Astrology for Career Success and Work Styles + Why Your Moon Sign Matters
Okay, social media then. I do well on TikTok. I mean, I do well on Instagram. I mean, I don't know. How about TV in general? I had a weight loss show for a bit. And then, yeah, I used to do a lot of TV. And now I do a little bit. TV would be good for Jupiter and Aquarius.
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Episode 405: Tali Edut: Using Astrology for Career Success and Work Styles + Why Your Moon Sign Matters
It just seems like I want to know, based on my signs more than anything, what would be best for my career, tips for productivity. I want to know how all my stuff actually could... Can it help me truly like be better or optimize an area where I'm like deficient in because I'm not I'm not using this chart properly? A thousand percent.
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Episode 405: Tali Edut: Using Astrology for Career Success and Work Styles + Why Your Moon Sign Matters
And we do it all the time. So we do this. We open them up, shake it, shake it, shake it. I've had like five today, by the way. Oh, my God. I know. It's crazy.
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Episode 405: Tali Edut: Using Astrology for Career Success and Work Styles + Why Your Moon Sign Matters
Oh, that's interesting now. Okay. Okay.
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Episode 405: Tali Edut: Using Astrology for Career Success and Work Styles + Why Your Moon Sign Matters
But they're like all nootropics. Oh, cool. Nootropics.
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Episode 405: Tali Edut: Using Astrology for Career Success and Work Styles + Why Your Moon Sign Matters
I'm not artsy at all. Like I'll always say like, they're like, oh, do you want to go see this? Do you want to go to this art gallery or this open? I'm like, no, I have no, listen, if you go and look in my house, my nine-year-old does all my paintings and I'm perfectly happy with it. Art is not my favorite thing. That's for sure.
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Episode 405: Tali Edut: Using Astrology for Career Success and Work Styles + Why Your Moon Sign Matters
Right, but it's part of what we naturally gravitate to, correct?
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Episode 405: Tali Edut: Using Astrology for Career Success and Work Styles + Why Your Moon Sign Matters
They're really good ingredients. Cheers.
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Episode 405: Tali Edut: Using Astrology for Career Success and Work Styles + Why Your Moon Sign Matters
It sounds so boring and so lame. Oh, my God. Okay. That's hilarious.
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Episode 405: Tali Edut: Using Astrology for Career Success and Work Styles + Why Your Moon Sign Matters
You're the provider, right? Am I? I don't think so. I mean, no. I don't know. Maybe I am.
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Episode 405: Tali Edut: Using Astrology for Career Success and Work Styles + Why Your Moon Sign Matters
Yes, that's exactly that would be a perfect way to describe. OK, I like this. I think I'm more Taurus. Tell me what other things that Taurus are.
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Episode 405: Tali Edut: Using Astrology for Career Success and Work Styles + Why Your Moon Sign Matters
That's interesting. I bet you, though, from what it sounds like, a lot of people may think they're one sign, but actually be a totally different sign if they actually did their chart properly.
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Episode 405: Tali Edut: Using Astrology for Career Success and Work Styles + Why Your Moon Sign Matters
Is that how you say it? It is. All right. And Tali is a celebrity astrologer. Astrologist, is that what you say? Astrologer, I like. You could say either, you know, yeah. All right. She's worked with Beyonce. She's worked with Dua Lipa. Who else have you worked with? Alicia Keys, we did a reading for.
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Episode 405: Tali Edut: Using Astrology for Career Success and Work Styles + Why Your Moon Sign Matters
Like how? Give me an example how you can apply it, like for productivity.
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Episode 405: Tali Edut: Using Astrology for Career Success and Work Styles + Why Your Moon Sign Matters
Do you work like that? See, I don't know. My situation is I'm kind of like a lot of what you're saying does relate to me. However, I'm also like all over the place. I'm like, like I'm very much a visionary person, not so much of an operator, which is interesting in terms of like, like you're like having everything like kind of organized and scheduled and documented. Yeah.
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Episode 405: Tali Edut: Using Astrology for Career Success and Work Styles + Why Your Moon Sign Matters
Oh my God. It's amazing. You know what? I love this because you sit here for so many hours. You know what I mean? This is really good. Oh, my God. Really good. Because the ingredients are like top notch. There's like ashwagandha. There's matcha. There's like turmeric. I have so many questions for you about business.
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Episode 405: Tali Edut: Using Astrology for Career Success and Work Styles + Why Your Moon Sign Matters
And like, I'm like, I'm just a squirrel. Like I'm here, then that's over here. Like I'm very, so a lot of the Virgo-y things don't really apply to me, but then I am practical. I am sensible. I am, I have like both. I have a lot of like, like yin and yang.
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Episode 405: Tali Edut: Using Astrology for Career Success and Work Styles + Why Your Moon Sign Matters
And none of them work.
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Episode 405: Tali Edut: Using Astrology for Career Success and Work Styles + Why Your Moon Sign Matters
Exactly. Okay, so tell us how we can be more productive while I look for the other question I have for you.
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Episode 405: Tali Edut: Using Astrology for Career Success and Work Styles + Why Your Moon Sign Matters
So how about this? You say in the book adults make over 35,000 decisions a day. So how does this I am system help on a daily basis with decision making?
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Episode 405: Tali Edut: Using Astrology for Career Success and Work Styles + Why Your Moon Sign Matters
Totally.
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Episode 405: Tali Edut: Using Astrology for Career Success and Work Styles + Why Your Moon Sign Matters
Opposites.
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Episode 405: Tali Edut: Using Astrology for Career Success and Work Styles + Why Your Moon Sign Matters
No, no, no. Opposite. Like I am a great. That's what I do very well.
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Episode 405: Tali Edut: Using Astrology for Career Success and Work Styles + Why Your Moon Sign Matters
Yes. That's what I'm saying. A lot of these things do not apply.
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Episode 405: Tali Edut: Using Astrology for Career Success and Work Styles + Why Your Moon Sign Matters
I had a lot of, I mean, I'm married now, but I mean, I had a lot of boyfriends and a lot of dating. I mean, I was just saying on that last podcast, I have so many, I'm very social in that way. So I have a lot of people I date and friends. But did you have a system for how you dated?
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Episode 405: Tali Edut: Using Astrology for Career Success and Work Styles + Why Your Moon Sign Matters
I will not went with it. I mean, I had a particular kind of guy I would go out with. I was very focused on having a guy that was you know, what girls like. I want someone who's successful and tall and cute and whatever and fit. Like, all the same things that any girl wants.
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Episode 405: Tali Edut: Using Astrology for Career Success and Work Styles + Why Your Moon Sign Matters
Yeah. Okay, good. We can. Anytime. Okay, now we're going to get into the podcast. So can you just say maybe in a few sentences, what is astrology?
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Episode 405: Tali Edut: Using Astrology for Career Success and Work Styles + Why Your Moon Sign Matters
But then I even had a... I put together, like, I created a charity for breast cancer where I would auction off all these eligible bachelors because I had so many... I literally had so many guys that I knew.
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Episode 405: Tali Edut: Using Astrology for Career Success and Work Styles + Why Your Moon Sign Matters
That's why it doesn't make sense because I literally... In fact, little side note, Lance Armstrong had his... Also Virgo. He's a Virgo? Yeah. Oh, that's so funny. So he did his... He was one of my... One year of my Babes for Boobs, which is the charity auction I do. He was my host. Or, like, we kind of gave him an award for raising so much money for overall cancer.
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And, you know, and so, like, we did... They were... They did a 30-30 for him, and I was in the 30-for-30, like, kind of, like, showing everybody all the dating stuff, like, and it just came out, like, recently, so everyone's stopping me, like, oh, my God, you were just in this thing.
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Episode 405: Tali Edut: Using Astrology for Career Success and Work Styles + Why Your Moon Sign Matters
But the point is that, yeah, I have, like, that to me is not an area that was, I am a dater, and I know that, so that doesn't really match.
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Yes.
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Well, not all of them. There are some who don't like me very much. I can name a few.
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But with that being said, so what makes somebody a successful dater versus not?
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So you got married when you were 36? Yep. Okay. That's a good math. At Virgo, right? Exactly. That's a calculator, yeah. So how accurate is all this information, honestly? You know...
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I find that there's a lot of confusion, right? Because I think there's astrology, there's tarot cards, there's all the things. Like, what do you get from astrology that you don't get from tarot cards or vice versa?
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But this is more database.
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Really? Because that was my next question. I was going to say, do you have to be kind of psychic?
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So astrology is more, it's more, it's data-based. It is. Yeah, it's data-based and math, there's like scientific math behind it.
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You can get super, super.
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It's so true.
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And so tarot cards are much more interpretive. Yeah. Then, okay, how has astrology changed, like, in today's time versus when you first started, like, in the early 2000s? Oh, my God. I actually started in the 90s. In the 90s, even.
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Totally. Yeah, it makes sense to me.
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But has it changed and evolved since then?
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What's it called? The Pattern.
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How did you know?
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Because you know why? That's one that I would open, and it says things, and I'm like, oh, my God. That's so to the T, me.
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Yeah, that's right. How are they able to do that, though, for an app? You don't have an app, do you?
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How did these apps even generate all this information?
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So I guess it can also help with hiring, right? Because if you are good at reading these charts and understanding, you can say, okay, this person doesn't seem like they... Listen, it's not like an exact science, but it's at least better than nothing. And you can say, this is telling me this person could be a good leader.
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This person would make a great worker bee, or this person will be a great operator, or...
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This is another fallacy, I think. Not you. No. And most people I know who are Virgos, like Virgos are not. Yeah. No, we don't. I don't rest. I mean, I've never I've never taken a nap in my life. That's the first thing.
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I don't mean like a napper, but it's like I don't like my problem is I don't rest ever. And most Virgos I know are the same way. Yeah, Virgos, no.
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Well, you've been like slacking over here.
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I know. I just thought there was my moon was my Libra. My Virgo is my sun. My Venus and Leo are my relationship thing. See, look at that Virgo mind cataloging it all. Exactly. It's an astrologer in you yet. A hundred percent. And now you're saying that I'm a Scorpio in my past life?
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Yeah, my TED talk.
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I don't think I magnetized him. I think I just harassed him and was very bold about asking for his help.
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That's so true. Well, first of all, I'm super intense still, though. Mm-hmm.
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Really? I don't understand then how, like, I believe my... I'm probably more Scorpio than I am.
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So how does anyone... How are you able to really, like... drill in any information on how to be the most productive or how to be the most this or that. If you can read a chart and you can have in your chart Scorpio, Virgo, Taurus, because that could be anything. I can see myself with like, I have some of the Scorpio in me, which would tend to make me believe I should go this direction.
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But then I also have a lot of Taurus in me, which would make me think I should go
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Because you're twins, right? Like, do you feel each other's energy then for real? Oh, definitely. Definitely. Really?
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Mm-hmm. How old is she? Is she younger or older?
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Does she have a client list? Does she actually get –
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Wow, it sounds very woo-woo.
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You seem very practical. So that's interesting. So that's very, she would be very interesting. Yeah.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. You guys are very close.
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I know. I'm bummed I couldn't meet her. Okay. So wait, what are the other things that I, okay. So AI and all that and like chat GPT and all that, how does that affect your business now or does it not? Yeah.
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Really?
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So why do we all focus then on the sun sign?
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Holy shit. Okay, this is so confusing.
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Last year.
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But still, it was like people were not expecting that. So so because he came on board to supporting Trump when like just like August 20. Yeah.
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So I was blown away by that. You were. Yeah. Well, just because I'm like, wow, like this is he was so anti. Right. Right. Right. And then all of a sudden he's like, I'm promoting, I'm supporting Trump, huh? I know that was like, it just didn't. It didn't. It was not. There was a disconnect for me.
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They're probably like, are they on acid?
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Yeah, exactly. Tell me other predictions that you've made that came true.
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Interesting. So then if we don't have, okay, so you're saying because it's the essence of our personality is in the sun sign. Okay. But then in terms of the moon and all the other pieces, do we not really get a clear, decisive indication if we don't know all the other pieces? Right.
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So then what happened? That Trad's wife became like a whole thing? Yeah. I was like shocked.
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Is it except for the wife's?
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Is it still happening?
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Really? Yes, I know. This is like a rabbit hole that I'm like fascinated by. So you have a whole thing on predictions then?
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Really?
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You did? Yeah, it's in my book right here. This book? Yes. Okay, guys, the book that she's referring to is not the book I'm holding.
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She has the astrology advantage that's out with her sister, but she also has another book that's called Horoscope 2024.
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Are you telling me this entire book is all predictions?
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By the way, this is like literally the pink elephant, like the red herring. You're burying the lead, I should say. So why are you not telling me about this book? You're pitching and talking about the other book.
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This is interesting. Okay, so make some predictions on this podcast.
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I actually heard that the Rivian is in big trouble. Is it? Okay, I thought their stock went way up.
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Yeah, we can check right now. I want to know because someone told me that they're not doing so great. Yeah, I'd like to know.
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So how often are you right and how often are you wrong?
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So, since this is a book on Virgo... Wait, hold on a second. Well, it's a book on all the signs. I know, I know. But I'm saying a book on my... I'm just talking... I'm very narcissistic today.
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Hello. Now we see it. I was saying, like, in the Virgos... Well, can you predict anything for Virgos this year? Yeah.
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I'm still confused by it. What happened with her?
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What do you mean, grab your girlfriend?
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Okay, so you went to college for like a different type of occupation. Absolutely.
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I'm confused by I'm still confused. So like she got pushed back that people thought that she was rude and just tone deaf to the situation.
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You know, it's so funny about life is that I am living under a rock. But besides that, is that it's interesting how I never heard any of this stuff. And now because one thing went kind of like viral. I know. All of a sudden now she's like the worst human being alive.
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So right now, so I'm in a year, I'm going to make it a little note.
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Yeah. And then, okay, so where am I in – where's Virgo, not me, whatever, Virgo, in relationships?
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Your mom's awesome and a rabbi, which I thought was great.
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So if I go into this book right now under Virgo, what would it say about relationships in Virgo?
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Would it say Virgos are having a hard time this year?
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So then how did you go from that to now being an astrologist?
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Since May? Okay, so it says, top five themes for Virgo in 2024 is broaden your reach. Why? GoPro?
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GoPro, like become like a hooker? Or a GoPro, like wear a GoPro.
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That's actually a very good point. I like that. Be fluid with relationships. Yes.
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I went to Israel in May. Okay.
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I wonder if... This is interesting. Okay. So then, can you make a prediction... Forget about me. I mean, I'll ask you off this podcast, but can you make any predictions now that you haven't made before? I want something fresh that I can share with my audience.
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It could be something like shockingly getting washed away or, you know, like a big, not a weather thing, but like a big world.
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Like, what would you call that?
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Yeah.
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Interesting. Okay. Can you be more specific with something else? I want to be much more specific. I don't like this very, very stuff. I'd like to know. I want hard... You're putting me on the spot here.
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That's what we do around here.
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I was going to say, is there going to be another Jennifer?
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I was going to say, it can be very beneficial in a lot of ways.
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Yeah. And so if someone wants to buy a Rivian, would you suggest they buy a Rivian if the stock is going up, even though I don't think it is?
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Well, maybe you'll just come back and tell me about your 2025 stuff. Yeah, I'll have a whole trend report written. Oh, perfect. Okay. Well, guys, her book with her twin is called Astrology Advantage, and they are the Astro Twins. And this is Tali. And her other book is called The Astrology Guide to 2024. She's now writing her 2025 book. Yep. The Astro Twins 2024 horoscope. Yep. Yes.
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You heard it here first. And you can also follow them on Instagram. What's your Instagram?
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I love that. Okay. Thank you so much for being on the podcast.
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We haven't even finished it, by the way. But I don't want to bore everyone with all the details here. But thank you so much for coming on the podcast.
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So fun. It was so good to meet you. Bye. Bye.
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So that's so interesting. So like for me being a Virgo, right? Yeah. That is so my, that's my sun sign. Yeah. What would be, so you're saying that what, who we are in our deeper inner self is our moon sign. To me, that's way more interesting and much more telling about a human being than what we, what people's perception or optics are.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. It kind of is, though. It is. All the girls I know love astrology, including me. Oh, great.
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I mean, not particularly, actually, not for my own clothing, but that's besides the point. I'm not very fashion forward, but I mean, maybe you're right. Like I, what I'm good at is I can, I could, I can see it in somebody else, just not in myself.
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Yeah, I take very good care of myself.
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No, is that really? So what is like a Virgo in your opinion?
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Including me. And so what's interesting about Tali is that she does this with her twin sister. That's why they're called the Astro Twins. Yes. And the book is called, their new book is called The Astrology Advantage. And they also did my chart, but we're going to learn so many things in this book. This book, like I said, is super fun.
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But boring, I'm not.
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But that's so interesting because most Virgos I know are not boring.
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Pink, you know, like Virgo. Name some famous Virgos.
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Oh, Blake Lively and Beyonce are too?
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By the way, can you give us some like any kind of juicy gossip about what you found out about Beyonce or a girl named Demetria who works with us here is obsessed with her. So I'm doing this. That's a question for her more than for me, to be honest. But you're welcome, Demetria.
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That's right. That's what we do. Okay, so let's talk about a couple of things. Let's start with the archetypes of these signs. You said there's three?
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I'm not someone who typically will have astrologists on the podcast, but the reason why I really wanted to speak with you is because you do talk about how astrology can be helpful in
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Okay, so this is the I am, right?
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Okay, this is the I am system. Okay, so... I is the innovator. Go on.
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Really? I was like, what was I thinking? That's great. I love that.
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So I'm an A. I'm an authority.
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Really?
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Based on, okay, so wait, let me get this straight because this can be a little complicated.
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Okay, there's a lot of things.
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Well, no, because, yeah, because why not, right?
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That's what we do. So it's the, you created this thing called the I am system and it's the I stands for innovator, A stands for authority.
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But then you said, I'm also a Maven? Yes. No, no, you're not a maven. I'm not a maven.
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productivity in your career in lots of different ways how you can apply it to make it work which again I'm all about like taking something that and using it for actionable purposes versus just yammering on and just talking about it so Thank you for being here. I'm so excited, and thanks for giving astrology a chance. Oh, no.
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Because it says here in the innovators.
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It's complicated. That's the problem. There's a lot of information, so it seems like it's complicated. Like you just said, well, yeah, you're a Virgo because that's your sun sign, but really, you're a Libra moon sign. I can tell you.
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I think this is how we're going to do it, so people are not going to totally feel like they're on acid.
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We could go all over. I know. Let's start with my chart. Let's go through all of it and then we can like figure it out. So go with the, yeah. So start with the.
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See, I guess I feel like I'm super disorganized. I don't have a lot of, like, administratively I'm very disorganized, but I'm very meticulous in how things should be done, like routine, regimen, schedule, stuff like that.
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Episode 439: Dan Martell: How to Master Your Time and Turn it into Wealth Today
Right.
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That's smart. By the way, I know a lot of people have made a ton of money being able to do all that stuff.
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100%.
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Did you growth hack yourself? I guess you did.
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How many?
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Where?
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How?
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I got to just say this because his schedule is super, super tight. And he's like, well, maybe I'll just take a helicopter to get to you. And I'm like, yeah, ha, ha, ha. And he legit meant it and took a helicopter to get here. And I had no idea you were being serious. Yeah.
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Who's your publisher?
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Episode 439: Dan Martell: How to Master Your Time and Turn it into Wealth Today
OK, I've got a bunch of questions. So first, does Sam have experience building a media company?
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Okay, and when you say media company, describe what that is to you.
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No, it's fascinating.
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Episode 439: Dan Martell: How to Master Your Time and Turn it into Wealth Today
Okay, wait. How long did it take to get here from there?
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Episode 439: Dan Martell: How to Master Your Time and Turn it into Wealth Today
Okay, so on the helicopter from San Clemente, which is like Orange County. Yeah. Okay, to like where I live, which is like Santa Monica.
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Do you have a lot of outside agencies who work with you? No.
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Totally agree.
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You've got to drink the Kool-Aid and live authentically.
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No, I understand. So basically then you decided 14 months ago all in on you. You built a team around it. And your team now is not just Sam, but people around it.
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It was 17 minutes. Ish, yeah. And then you're going to go back from there to Newport. Where in Newport are you going to go?
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How much does it cost a month to upkeep that?
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Episode 439: Dan Martell: How to Master Your Time and Turn it into Wealth Today
It's probably like 180. 180 a month. Probably. So does that mean that includes people walking around with you 24 hours a day or whatever?
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They're not allowed in your house?
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No in your house. That's why you do it all.
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Okay, good. So it's everything outside the house. Are your kids allowed to be on?
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Yeah, that's fine. Okay, so basically, you basically have someone to follow you around. You said you have more than one person.
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I remember what I saw of yours now that I liked. What was that? I just remembered. You talked about building talent, about CEOs who they are spending their time building talent and getting that- Build the people.
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Episode 439: Dan Martell: How to Master Your Time and Turn it into Wealth Today
And the people build the business. It's 100% how it is.
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You have no idea.
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I think that's a great strategy. My question is, what happens for people who don't have millions of dollars in the bank to spend $100,000 plus a month?
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Episode 439: Dan Martell: How to Master Your Time and Turn it into Wealth Today
Walk me through how someone can build a media company with themselves when they have very little money.
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This is hilarious. I know. OK, wait. How much did it cost to get the helicopter?
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Episode 439: Dan Martell: How to Master Your Time and Turn it into Wealth Today
So I was going to say to you, I think a lot of times we're struggling with the content because unless you have a busy life and that you're doing a lot of stuff, you're stuck with like having, if you have a boring life, it's hard to create content.
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Episode 439: Dan Martell: How to Master Your Time and Turn it into Wealth Today
Oh my God, I love this. I'm so happy you're here right now.
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What's the answer?
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Episode 439: Dan Martell: How to Master Your Time and Turn it into Wealth Today
OK, I'm going to ask this question for my son. So him and his friend started this business about they go to Smart and Final. They buy a bunch of candy. And then they take it to school. And then their idea, and I'm all for it, so maybe I'm a bad mom. But they'll do it until they get caught.
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Episode 439: Dan Martell: How to Master Your Time and Turn it into Wealth Today
So you always take the helicopter in California?
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Ask for forgiveness, not permission. You're not a bad mom.
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I am, really. And so they buy all this candy. They go to the school. And they take the candy and half of it. And they try to sell it, right?
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100%.
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That's such a good idea.
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I love that. I'm going to clip this and give this to my kid.
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I love it. It's 100% true.
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Yeah.
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Thank you.
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Episode 439: Dan Martell: How to Master Your Time and Turn it into Wealth Today
So why didn't you just, I guess you couldn't land it over here.
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So why, okay, because I'm far from Santa Monica. So that's like another 30 minutes.
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Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
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Episode 439: Dan Martell: How to Master Your Time and Turn it into Wealth Today
That's it?
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Okay, best because the traffic is really not that bad right now.
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So where, couldn't you get closer? Like I do have an area over there.
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Thank you.
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Thank you.
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Episode 439: Dan Martell: How to Master Your Time and Turn it into Wealth Today
Okay, but how did you get to this place? So like walk me through your life because in all transparency, I really had no clue who you were. Yeah. And then our friend, I guess our mutual friend introduced us.
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Oh, really?
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's my old book.
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Like give me your daily habit.
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Mm-hmm, 100%.
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How many other kids do you have besides?
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Oh, really? Oh, wow.
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Oh, my God. Oh, my gosh.
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Yeah.
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She was not. I can imagine.
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Episode 439: Dan Martell: How to Master Your Time and Turn it into Wealth Today
So you're doing seven days a week of weight training?
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Which is like what? Like a walking?
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And the other six days you're doing heavy lifting.
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You're doing a split.
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Episode 439: Dan Martell: How to Master Your Time and Turn it into Wealth Today
Okay, so how long is it, 45 minutes?
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Okay, so you work out every day with a trainer and people- Not every day, but I would say 70% of the time. Because look at this one. He looks like a body- I'll show you.
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Episode 439: Dan Martell: How to Master Your Time and Turn it into Wealth Today
Wow. So do you do cardio cardio or no?
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We just did a whole podcast on this because I feel like a lot of those endurance races or crazy races.
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First of all, you're like ruining your body. But more than that, you don't have that aesthetic that people are trying to get.
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Very rarely. Very rarely. You look like you're like, either you look like a fat, thin person.
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Just flabby. Yeah. Because you're basically like breaking down muscle mass all day and it's not for body composition.
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People love the abs in 90 days. That's the great part.
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And it turns out that- But tell people that it's just for, I know, but just- Yeah, so-
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Totally. I think women, too. Like, they're scared they're going to get too big.
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That's such a great way of putting it.
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Episode 439: Dan Martell: How to Master Your Time and Turn it into Wealth Today
I love it. Yeah.
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Episode 439: Dan Martell: How to Master Your Time and Turn it into Wealth Today
Wow. Okay. So then how did you go from that to taking helicopters, you know, in LA and having all the things you have? So let me just kind of tell you what I do know, and then you can kind of go back. Okay. I know that you have a fund that you said that was, you've had $100 million in revenue. That one, yeah. Right. And you've invested in 60 startups, over 60 startups. Yeah. You do a ton.
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So I like this shirt. I mean, I figured because I have a whole thing in my book about wearing the same clothes. Steve Jobs did it with his black turtleneck. I mean, people do it all the time. It's decision fatigue. It's just decision fatigue. That's what I call it. Of course, it's decision fatigue. Don't put your energy in areas that don't need. No ROI. Absolutely agree. So you chose to have blue.
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Yeah, that's good. True.
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Me too.
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I love that.
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How long have you been doing it for?
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Okay, that's a new one. Okay. Okay, let's talk about buy back your time. I want to know ways we can buy back our time. I saw the decision fatigue we got. I'm on board with that one.
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I like Costco. That's where I'm still stuck on because I like Costco and people laugh at me all the time because I will waste my entire day by going to Costco to save 4 cents or $1.99.
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Totally.
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You're the biggest executive coach in soft, in like software. Yeah.
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Right, 100%.
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Also, there's a big difference between busy and productive. You can make yourself busy all day doing silly things that get you no return on your investment.
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Betty is. Okay, so what's Betty's job? House manager. Okay, which entails what? Everything. Tell me.
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You do a lot of speaking gigs.
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And now you do a lot of social media stuff.
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Did Betty do the cooking or she has a chef to do the cooking?
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Someone's following you around, you know, doing your little stuff.
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Every night, 5.30. Okay. Who makes the kids breakfast and lunch?
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They do.
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Who makes breakfast for you, Max? Your mom?
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How about lunch?
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So who does make your lunch? Betty? Or you?
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I like it. Okay, go on.
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That's a big one, I think.
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Sam runs the team. So you've got five of these guys. So how did you go? I want you to talk about the evolution. What was the evolution of how you became where you are now?
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So we're talking- Send it to me, nevermind my audience.
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Don't forget.
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Sam.
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This podcast is literally meant for me. From the candy for my kids, how to sell more candy, to the Costco, to the executive assistant. I should be taking notes on myself. Okay, go on.
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Episode 439: Dan Martell: How to Master Your Time and Turn it into Wealth Today
Okay. Okay, wait. Finish what you just said. Executive assistant, personal assistant.
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So true.
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Okay, I need to get one more ways we can buy back our time and then you can leave.
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Because I think you're right. It is a letting go situation. It is. People can't, they feel that they, or they feel like they can do it better than someone else.
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Okay. Then why do I only know about you now?
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That's good. Okay, well, what we'll do is, because really I wanted to talk about this book and we didn't really talk about it as much as I'd like.
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I like it too, but I also like actionable things that people can have when they can be like, oh, I can do that. I can integrate that into my life. So those are a good amount. What we'll do is next time you're here, you can helicopter to my backyard or my roof. I have a huge roof, by the way. I can fit a helipad.
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Yeah, right here.
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That's a little bit far, but right here.
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That's okay. You have a helicopter.
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Episode 439: Dan Martell: How to Master Your Time and Turn it into Wealth Today
So you can just put one over here next to my house and you can just kind of jaunt right in here for a few minutes and then- Yeah, you'll coordinate this whole thing. This was fascinating. I'm glad that we got introduced. And is there anything besides following you on YouTube, Instagram, buying your book, buy back your time?
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I love it. Thank you, Dan, for coming on the podcast. Thank you.
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Really? Yeah.
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Wow.
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So you were addicted to, you were a drug addict.
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OK, you're still young.
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No, what is it called?
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When you say multimillionaire, are we talking $2 million? Are we talking $20 million?
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A lot of people say they're millionaires, but. It means nothing. I know. They're not. I want to know the, like, the.
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OK, so now you're 27. You have like $7 million in the bank, let's just say. What do you do now? What's the next thing?
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OK, big move.
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Yeah.
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Why there, of all places?
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So you wanted to be close to tech.
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Which ones did you invest in?
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But I mean- And how much were you giving each? Like 25,000, 100,000? No, more like 100. Yeah, 100K each. And were you kind of getting those opportunities by the network that you were meeting?
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Go to LiveMomentous.com and use code Jen for 20% off. Just act now. Start today. Jen for 20% off. LiveMomentous.com. All right, so today we have Dan Martell. Yeah. Right? All right. And team. And he's Canadian, so automatically you have a place in my heart. We're friends right off the bat. Cool. He wrote a book called Buy Back Your Time. And I thought he was joking.
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Oh, I love that book.
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Never eat alone. You should never eat lunch alone.
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Yeah, aloof. Yeah, yeah.
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By the way, how long did you live there for?
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Keep it simple, stupid.
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No, I think that's a great, I think that's a really good piece of advice because you're right. Like I get people who call me all the time or email me or text me for like information sessions or they want to, whatever it is. Right. And I say, well, what do you do? And they have no clue or they're talking, they're talking in too many syllables. And I'm like, you lost me already.
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Like you should have an elevator pitch that's so succinct. Where people know, okay, this is what I do. I wrote a book. Great. I can understand that.
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No.
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Episode 439: Dan Martell: How to Master Your Time and Turn it into Wealth Today
So then you go into these things and you're like, okay, now you're like basically bullshitting. You're a marketing person for a startup.
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Episode 439: Dan Martell: How to Master Your Time and Turn it into Wealth Today
But how did you know how to do marketing? Because you were doing all that. From my previous company. Yeah, but you were more like, it sounds to me, you were more like the coder.
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Episode 439: Dan Martell: How to Master Your Time and Turn it into Wealth Today
Yeah.
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Episode 413: Dr. Alejandro Junger: The Gut's Impact on Depression, Skin and Allergies + a Gut Repair Program
Is that like the Dalai Lama?
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Episode 413: Dr. Alejandro Junger: The Gut's Impact on Depression, Skin and Allergies + a Gut Repair Program
It's so mild, but it keeps you leveled. It's not like a crazy jittery thing. All right, so what we do in this is we actually, we cheers, like cheers. Say cheers. This is a magic mind. I'm telling you, it's really, it's great. You're going to like the taste.
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Episode 413: Dr. Alejandro Junger: The Gut's Impact on Depression, Skin and Allergies + a Gut Repair Program
Number one, they're not on Instagram.
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Episode 413: Dr. Alejandro Junger: The Gut's Impact on Depression, Skin and Allergies + a Gut Repair Program
For searching.
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Episode 413: Dr. Alejandro Junger: The Gut's Impact on Depression, Skin and Allergies + a Gut Repair Program
Well, I have a question for you, totally side, it's like a side note, but how does one become so enlightened? Like this woman that you're talking about, who is this the most enlightened woman, a guru, how do you even start that process? Like, was she like, what is her background where she's even able to become that?
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Episode 413: Dr. Alejandro Junger: The Gut's Impact on Depression, Skin and Allergies + a Gut Repair Program
alcohol or right or joint or anything she was kind of like she was kind of like brought up in an environment where that can happen yeah what's your opinion do you think somebody who comes from our from like you know from canada the us like living our kind of normal societal world now do you think they can become enlightened like that or that's just virtually impossible just on based on life experience and what like what they they're exposed to do you think that's even possible
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Episode 413: Dr. Alejandro Junger: The Gut's Impact on Depression, Skin and Allergies + a Gut Repair Program
You're not jaded?
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Episode 413: Dr. Alejandro Junger: The Gut's Impact on Depression, Skin and Allergies + a Gut Repair Program
Most people are shocked that it actually has a really nice flavor. Okay, so now you're going to be so focused. You're going to be so alert.
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Episode 413: Dr. Alejandro Junger: The Gut's Impact on Depression, Skin and Allergies + a Gut Repair Program
Harder. I think it's virtually impossible.
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Episode 413: Dr. Alejandro Junger: The Gut's Impact on Depression, Skin and Allergies + a Gut Repair Program
Right. Well, you're too busy. Your brain has probably too much noise in it.
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Episode 413: Dr. Alejandro Junger: The Gut's Impact on Depression, Skin and Allergies + a Gut Repair Program
But it's possible. Like you need to quiet your brain. But wait, so how long were you at the ashram with this?
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Episode 413: Dr. Alejandro Junger: The Gut's Impact on Depression, Skin and Allergies + a Gut Repair Program
Okay.
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Episode 413: Dr. Alejandro Junger: The Gut's Impact on Depression, Skin and Allergies + a Gut Repair Program
So what was your day like there? Like give me the day in the life of what happened.
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Episode 413: Dr. Alejandro Junger: The Gut's Impact on Depression, Skin and Allergies + a Gut Repair Program
Is it a famous ashram?
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Episode 413: Dr. Alejandro Junger: The Gut's Impact on Depression, Skin and Allergies + a Gut Repair Program
Of course you can.
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Episode 413: Dr. Alejandro Junger: The Gut's Impact on Depression, Skin and Allergies + a Gut Repair Program
I was going to say, so like, are people going there to find themselves and search for themselves?
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Episode 413: Dr. Alejandro Junger: The Gut's Impact on Depression, Skin and Allergies + a Gut Repair Program
And so these famous people who are going, are they going because they're also in search for themselves? How much does it cost to go to this ashram? That's what I want to know.
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Episode 413: Dr. Alejandro Junger: The Gut's Impact on Depression, Skin and Allergies + a Gut Repair Program
I want the details. Yeah.
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Episode 413: Dr. Alejandro Junger: The Gut's Impact on Depression, Skin and Allergies + a Gut Repair Program
I was going to say, I expect to have nothing but the best information come out of that noggin of yours, so... So now that I've kind of coined you as this king of gut health, why don't we just start with like a little bit of your background? Because what I always say to you and I actually talk about this is that you are very qualified.
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Episode 413: Dr. Alejandro Junger: The Gut's Impact on Depression, Skin and Allergies + a Gut Repair Program
We can do both. I want to know how much it costs. If I were like, you know, I want to go and find myself at this ashram, I want to go for, what, a week? How much would it cost me?
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Episode 413: Dr. Alejandro Junger: The Gut's Impact on Depression, Skin and Allergies + a Gut Repair Program
Okay.
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Episode 413: Dr. Alejandro Junger: The Gut's Impact on Depression, Skin and Allergies + a Gut Repair Program
Yeah, they're like freaking out.
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Episode 413: Dr. Alejandro Junger: The Gut's Impact on Depression, Skin and Allergies + a Gut Repair Program
Oh, wow.
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Episode 413: Dr. Alejandro Junger: The Gut's Impact on Depression, Skin and Allergies + a Gut Repair Program
Like a buddy.
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Episode 413: Dr. Alejandro Junger: The Gut's Impact on Depression, Skin and Allergies + a Gut Repair Program
You're not, you know, you're not some schmendrick who is on Instagram just touting the latest and greatest. You're actually a cardiologist, plus you're a functional medicine doctor, and you've been schooled and you constantly are educating yourself on things that really heal your overall body, your system, and why I like you so much.
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Episode 413: Dr. Alejandro Junger: The Gut's Impact on Depression, Skin and Allergies + a Gut Repair Program
That's so crazy. How long did that last?
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Episode 413: Dr. Alejandro Junger: The Gut's Impact on Depression, Skin and Allergies + a Gut Repair Program
Yeah.
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Episode 413: Dr. Alejandro Junger: The Gut's Impact on Depression, Skin and Allergies + a Gut Repair Program
So this place did a lot of good for you.
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Episode 413: Dr. Alejandro Junger: The Gut's Impact on Depression, Skin and Allergies + a Gut Repair Program
All the time.
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Episode 413: Dr. Alejandro Junger: The Gut's Impact on Depression, Skin and Allergies + a Gut Repair Program
Wow. But what do you think?
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Episode 413: Dr. Alejandro Junger: The Gut's Impact on Depression, Skin and Allergies + a Gut Repair Program
So besides that, can we talk about how you really kind of honed your program and honed what you feel really are these healing properties and...
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Episode 413: Dr. Alejandro Junger: The Gut's Impact on Depression, Skin and Allergies + a Gut Repair Program
But weren't you in that state when you were doing the exchange with them back when you were at the ashram?
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Episode 413: Dr. Alejandro Junger: The Gut's Impact on Depression, Skin and Allergies + a Gut Repair Program
Right, right, right. But I thought you were staying, weren't you staying at the ashram?
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Episode 413: Dr. Alejandro Junger: The Gut's Impact on Depression, Skin and Allergies + a Gut Repair Program
Oh, okay. So I wasn't understanding. I thought the ashram was in India.
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Episode 413: Dr. Alejandro Junger: The Gut's Impact on Depression, Skin and Allergies + a Gut Repair Program
Oh, okay. I didn't know they had an ashram.
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Episode 413: Dr. Alejandro Junger: The Gut's Impact on Depression, Skin and Allergies + a Gut Repair Program
Oh, there is?
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Episode 413: Dr. Alejandro Junger: The Gut's Impact on Depression, Skin and Allergies + a Gut Repair Program
Oh, okay. Now this is making more sense to me.
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Episode 413: Dr. Alejandro Junger: The Gut's Impact on Depression, Skin and Allergies + a Gut Repair Program
So then when you found meditation and it kind of helped change the way your brain works, basically, and it calms you down.
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Episode 413: Dr. Alejandro Junger: The Gut's Impact on Depression, Skin and Allergies + a Gut Repair Program
It's like a kibbutz, it sounds like.
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Episode 413: Dr. Alejandro Junger: The Gut's Impact on Depression, Skin and Allergies + a Gut Repair Program
See, this is where it becomes dangerous, this whole thing, right? Because when do you listen to you and when do you listen to your Ayurvedic doctor or your... Chinese medicine doctor, this is where the rubber meets the road, in my opinion.
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Episode 413: Dr. Alejandro Junger: The Gut's Impact on Depression, Skin and Allergies + a Gut Repair Program
So if you weren't there, let's say, for example, like I have a lot of friends of mine. A friend of mine right now has been sick for like two weeks, okay? Came back from a very crazy trip. And, you know, I'm convinced he has a major infection, but he refuses to take antibiotics, right? Because he's on the opposite end of the spectrum, right?
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Episode 413: Dr. Alejandro Junger: The Gut's Impact on Depression, Skin and Allergies + a Gut Repair Program
Like there's people, you know, probably somewhere in the middle would be nice, but some people are very extreme and he won't take anything.
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Episode 413: Dr. Alejandro Junger: The Gut's Impact on Depression, Skin and Allergies + a Gut Repair Program
This is the problem.
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Episode 413: Dr. Alejandro Junger: The Gut's Impact on Depression, Skin and Allergies + a Gut Repair Program
But when do you know when to do what?
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Episode 413: Dr. Alejandro Junger: The Gut's Impact on Depression, Skin and Allergies + a Gut Repair Program
Right. But what I'm even going back to when you were telling me when you first moved to the States and they gave you a seven... medications for your depression, for your allergies and for something else. Oh yeah, for your IBS, whatever. Were there some of those meds that you could have done naturally that would have been okay? You know what I mean?
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Episode 413: Dr. Alejandro Junger: The Gut's Impact on Depression, Skin and Allergies + a Gut Repair Program
People only know what they know and only have access to what they have access to.
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Episode 413: Dr. Alejandro Junger: The Gut's Impact on Depression, Skin and Allergies + a Gut Repair Program
The way I see functional medicine is like you're working with the body as a whole, like holistically.
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Episode 413: Dr. Alejandro Junger: The Gut's Impact on Depression, Skin and Allergies + a Gut Repair Program
So, okay.
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Episode 413: Dr. Alejandro Junger: The Gut's Impact on Depression, Skin and Allergies + a Gut Repair Program
I think a lot of times, because we just kind of touched upon this at the beginning, but the medical system, the health system is so screwed up right now. And there's so much money in big pharma and the food system is all screwed up that there's no trust anymore. That's the first thing. People are going to doctors. Look what's happening.
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Episode 413: Dr. Alejandro Junger: The Gut's Impact on Depression, Skin and Allergies + a Gut Repair Program
They're writing a prescription because they want to cover their ass. They don't want to get sued versus looking at the body as a whole. So people are getting missed. A lot of things that are making them sick is being missed.
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Episode 413: Dr. Alejandro Junger: The Gut's Impact on Depression, Skin and Allergies + a Gut Repair Program
Yeah.
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Episode 413: Dr. Alejandro Junger: The Gut's Impact on Depression, Skin and Allergies + a Gut Repair Program
But then also, let me just interject, okay? Because then if you go see a doctor that's not covered, that will have maybe more than five minutes to see you, they are all a fortune. Doctors have now made it impossible for the average person to come see you. Any good doctor worth their salt are now concierge doctors, and they are private doctors with a huge price tag.
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Episode 413: Dr. Alejandro Junger: The Gut's Impact on Depression, Skin and Allergies + a Gut Repair Program
Do you know how many people are staying sick because they can't afford to see a functional medicine doctor? And by the way, just to talk about the functional, that's just MDs, okay? Functional medicine doctors are a living fortune. I mean, I go into a doctor's office, a functional doctor, they want to give me 77 tests. Each test is 500 bucks.
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Episode 413: Dr. Alejandro Junger: The Gut's Impact on Depression, Skin and Allergies + a Gut Repair Program
By the time I'm walking out of there, it's thousands and thousands of dollars, and I'm not even at the root of the problem. So if I'm who I, and I make a nice living. So if I can't afford it sometimes, or I'm like, shit, that's expensive. Like, I don't want to spend that money. I've got all these other expenses.
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Episode 413: Dr. Alejandro Junger: The Gut's Impact on Depression, Skin and Allergies + a Gut Repair Program
How could people who are making really like just a very fair, like a small amount of money do it? They can't. They're making it so you, people who are not multi-gazillionaires can't afford to be seen or can afford to be healthy.
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Episode 413: Dr. Alejandro Junger: The Gut's Impact on Depression, Skin and Allergies + a Gut Repair Program
It's terrible.
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Episode 413: Dr. Alejandro Junger: The Gut's Impact on Depression, Skin and Allergies + a Gut Repair Program
But that's a big one. I mean, I can't think of any other situation where anything's more expensive. Because if you don't have your health, you have absolutely nothing. So, like, who cares?
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Episode 413: Dr. Alejandro Junger: The Gut's Impact on Depression, Skin and Allergies + a Gut Repair Program
Exactly. Yes. Right? Like no other problem. Every other problem goes away once you have your health compromised. So that to me, that's why I always say health is wealth because without that, you're not, you have nothing.
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Episode 413: Dr. Alejandro Junger: The Gut's Impact on Depression, Skin and Allergies + a Gut Repair Program
And so how do we, like, unless people listen to podcasts and get these like bite-sized pieces of information from trusted sources, that's why I'm always saying trusted sources because everybody, it's become a cash grab. People are saying, well,
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Episode 413: Dr. Alejandro Junger: The Gut's Impact on Depression, Skin and Allergies + a Gut Repair Program
whatever they need to say, because they're being paid by sponsors, by company, you know, by whoever to push their products, their brands, their services, their telemedicine issues. Like this is what's happening.
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Episode 413: Dr. Alejandro Junger: The Gut's Impact on Depression, Skin and Allergies + a Gut Repair Program
It does. But I'll tell you the difference, okay? I'll tell you the difference. Everyone needs to make a living, but you need to know that you're talking to someone who who has integrity. And that's the problem.
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Episode 413: Dr. Alejandro Junger: The Gut's Impact on Depression, Skin and Allergies + a Gut Repair Program
People don't know who have integrity because a lot of people who are great talkers, they're great talkers, they're great salespeople, but they don't have the wherewithal to even give you advice on your health or your longevity. The people who are actually sometimes not the best representatives of themselves or the best
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Episode 413: Dr. Alejandro Junger: The Gut's Impact on Depression, Skin and Allergies + a Gut Repair Program
orators or the best media spokespeople are typically the ones that I see who are actually the most knowledgeable, have the most integrity, who I'd like to get my information from.
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Episode 413: Dr. Alejandro Junger: The Gut's Impact on Depression, Skin and Allergies + a Gut Repair Program
It did. Good. Well, this is a good example, right? Because like, yeah, like everybody needs to make money and have brands and sponsors who help them, right? But you have to be discerning who you work with, who your products are, who you're listening to. Like you're saying yourself, like, well, I have my clean program.
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Episode 413: Dr. Alejandro Junger: The Gut's Impact on Depression, Skin and Allergies + a Gut Repair Program
Yeah, but like I vetted you.
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Episode 413: Dr. Alejandro Junger: The Gut's Impact on Depression, Skin and Allergies + a Gut Repair Program
So did you use her program, the We Care program, to base your clean program on?
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Episode 413: Dr. Alejandro Junger: The Gut's Impact on Depression, Skin and Allergies + a Gut Repair Program
It looked like it is the key word, right?
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Episode 413: Dr. Alejandro Junger: The Gut's Impact on Depression, Skin and Allergies + a Gut Repair Program
Well, how long has the program been around, the CLEAN program?
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Episode 413: Dr. Alejandro Junger: The Gut's Impact on Depression, Skin and Allergies + a Gut Repair Program
It's been a while. And where is her program, the We Care? Is that even around?
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Episode 413: Dr. Alejandro Junger: The Gut's Impact on Depression, Skin and Allergies + a Gut Repair Program
I've never even heard of it.
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Episode 413: Dr. Alejandro Junger: The Gut's Impact on Depression, Skin and Allergies + a Gut Repair Program
It's called We Care?
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Episode 413: Dr. Alejandro Junger: The Gut's Impact on Depression, Skin and Allergies + a Gut Repair Program
Dr. Junger. By the way, guys, I have the guy who is probably one of the smartest guys when it comes to gut health. He's the king of gut health. His program is called The Clean Program. We'll get into that. But I was saying that he travels everywhere, he lives everywhere, and he's in Los Angeles only for a very short time. And so I was fortunate enough to spend time with you.
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Episode 413: Dr. Alejandro Junger: The Gut's Impact on Depression, Skin and Allergies + a Gut Repair Program
Where does he live now? Is he there now?
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Episode 413: Dr. Alejandro Junger: The Gut's Impact on Depression, Skin and Allergies + a Gut Repair Program
He's doing functional medicine now?
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Episode 413: Dr. Alejandro Junger: The Gut's Impact on Depression, Skin and Allergies + a Gut Repair Program
No, I know. Well, I know that Dr. Gundry, though, seems to be like, he's very business savvy. Like, he's like doing all sorts of stuff. He's got like a supplement line.
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Episode 413: Dr. Alejandro Junger: The Gut's Impact on Depression, Skin and Allergies + a Gut Repair Program
I remember that you guys had like a relationship. I remember years ago you told me you guys were tight.
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Episode 413: Dr. Alejandro Junger: The Gut's Impact on Depression, Skin and Allergies + a Gut Repair Program
I remember you were really tight. And so like he... Because he now... Well, he's got his podcast, his books... But all I always remember about Dr. Gundry, you know how people always remember one thing about something or something that sticks in your head? He says, I should never eat tomatoes. Tomatoes are terrible because it has a quality that is very- Lectins.
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Episode 413: Dr. Alejandro Junger: The Gut's Impact on Depression, Skin and Allergies + a Gut Repair Program
What's this whole thing? Why does he hate lectins so much?
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Episode 413: Dr. Alejandro Junger: The Gut's Impact on Depression, Skin and Allergies + a Gut Repair Program
Because if someone like me who is highly allergic, I break out in hives just by looking at certain plants and in a tropical environment, you don't want to see me.
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Episode 413: Dr. Alejandro Junger: The Gut's Impact on Depression, Skin and Allergies + a Gut Repair Program
Do I stay away from stuff like that?
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Episode 413: Dr. Alejandro Junger: The Gut's Impact on Depression, Skin and Allergies + a Gut Repair Program
Okay, I can talk to you about that.
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Episode 413: Dr. Alejandro Junger: The Gut's Impact on Depression, Skin and Allergies + a Gut Repair Program
I get it. So what do we do to prevent? So your whole thing is how to prevent it.
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Episode 413: Dr. Alejandro Junger: The Gut's Impact on Depression, Skin and Allergies + a Gut Repair Program
Really?
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Episode 413: Dr. Alejandro Junger: The Gut's Impact on Depression, Skin and Allergies + a Gut Repair Program
So before you even do blood work, you work on the gut.
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Episode 413: Dr. Alejandro Junger: The Gut's Impact on Depression, Skin and Allergies + a Gut Repair Program
By the way, for those of you who are just listening and they're not watching this, Dr. Unger brought a model.
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Episode 413: Dr. Alejandro Junger: The Gut's Impact on Depression, Skin and Allergies + a Gut Repair Program
And he's showing me with his pointer how and what happens in your gut.
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Episode 413: Dr. Alejandro Junger: The Gut's Impact on Depression, Skin and Allergies + a Gut Repair Program
So my intestinal wall, everyone's intestinal wall is about two tennis courts.
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Episode 413: Dr. Alejandro Junger: The Gut's Impact on Depression, Skin and Allergies + a Gut Repair Program
Yeah.
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Episode 413: Dr. Alejandro Junger: The Gut's Impact on Depression, Skin and Allergies + a Gut Repair Program
Okay, so let's go into like, so is leaky gut the main reason why people have gut issues?
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Episode 413: Dr. Alejandro Junger: The Gut's Impact on Depression, Skin and Allergies + a Gut Repair Program
Okay, you're losing me. So let me ask you a question because it's too much information, too losing.
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Episode 413: Dr. Alejandro Junger: The Gut's Impact on Depression, Skin and Allergies + a Gut Repair Program
I understand. Well, kind of, but I do understand. The question I'm having is in simple terms, right? Because people who are listening, they're like, okay, Dr. Unger, tell me how to repair my gut. Give it to me simply, easy, digestible, excuse the pun, how we can repair our gut.
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Episode 413: Dr. Alejandro Junger: The Gut's Impact on Depression, Skin and Allergies + a Gut Repair Program
That's such a great, I want to clip that because I think that's like a big thing, right? You're a hundred percent right. Like when I thought, you know, when I have gut issues, they're like, oh yeah, acromantia or Or, oh, no, why don't you take glutamine?
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Episode 413: Dr. Alejandro Junger: The Gut's Impact on Depression, Skin and Allergies + a Gut Repair Program
And they're like, oh, just take a probiotic.
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Episode 413: Dr. Alejandro Junger: The Gut's Impact on Depression, Skin and Allergies + a Gut Repair Program
Right. And the problem is, I think, even probiotics, right? Because what my body is missing is not necessarily what your back leg body is missing. So it's not a one-size-fits-all probiotic, right? And they're like, well, you can't have one that has to be refrigerated, it has to not be refrigerated. There's so much information.
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Episode 413: Dr. Alejandro Junger: The Gut's Impact on Depression, Skin and Allergies + a Gut Repair Program
So what's in it? How does it work?
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Episode 413: Dr. Alejandro Junger: The Gut's Impact on Depression, Skin and Allergies + a Gut Repair Program
Well- How does it work?
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Episode 413: Dr. Alejandro Junger: The Gut's Impact on Depression, Skin and Allergies + a Gut Repair Program
So then why do you have a seven-day program?
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Episode 413: Dr. Alejandro Junger: The Gut's Impact on Depression, Skin and Allergies + a Gut Repair Program
It's like a weight loss program.
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Episode 413: Dr. Alejandro Junger: The Gut's Impact on Depression, Skin and Allergies + a Gut Repair Program
But then you gained it back because of your... So tell me what the difference, like what do you offer in seven days that you don't offer in 21?
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Episode 413: Dr. Alejandro Junger: The Gut's Impact on Depression, Skin and Allergies + a Gut Repair Program
Oh, I remember this whole thing. You don't let us drink coffee, right?
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Episode 413: Dr. Alejandro Junger: The Gut's Impact on Depression, Skin and Allergies + a Gut Repair Program
No coffee at all?
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Episode 413: Dr. Alejandro Junger: The Gut's Impact on Depression, Skin and Allergies + a Gut Repair Program
Oh, God, you said the worst thing you can possibly say to me.
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Episode 413: Dr. Alejandro Junger: The Gut's Impact on Depression, Skin and Allergies + a Gut Repair Program
When you say you added some intermittent fasting, can you give me an example?
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Episode 413: Dr. Alejandro Junger: The Gut's Impact on Depression, Skin and Allergies + a Gut Repair Program
What do you do when you want to, like for active people who work out like me, what do you do?
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Episode 413: Dr. Alejandro Junger: The Gut's Impact on Depression, Skin and Allergies + a Gut Repair Program
You're killing me right now, Dr. Unger.
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Episode 413: Dr. Alejandro Junger: The Gut's Impact on Depression, Skin and Allergies + a Gut Repair Program
In full transparency, do you remember transparency... Do you remember years ago you sent me the clean program? I think it was like the seven day program and he wanted me to do the program. And I was like, I remember now it's all coming back to me. I was like really nervous because I love food. I didn't, and it wasn't allowed to drink coffee.
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Episode 413: Dr. Alejandro Junger: The Gut's Impact on Depression, Skin and Allergies + a Gut Repair Program
So I gave it away to my friend and she did it and she loved it. She thought she really like felt great. Like she really did. She thought it was a great program. and I totally forgot about this. And when I said that you're coming back on the podcast, she's like, oh, my God, are you going to get one of those clean programs? Can I have it? Because I'm like, yeah, maybe you will.
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Episode 413: Dr. Alejandro Junger: The Gut's Impact on Depression, Skin and Allergies + a Gut Repair Program
I mean, I don't have it, by the way. I think my neighbor stole it because it comes in a really – or Amazon.
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Episode 413: Dr. Alejandro Junger: The Gut's Impact on Depression, Skin and Allergies + a Gut Repair Program
Can you send me, like, two?
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Episode 413: Dr. Alejandro Junger: The Gut's Impact on Depression, Skin and Allergies + a Gut Repair Program
I'm going to do it, and I'm going to give one to her because I promised her, but – Why no coffee? Why is coffee bad for you and your gut? Because there's so much data saying that coffee actually could be healthy.
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So once the gut is better again, you can then drink coffee.
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Episode 413: Dr. Alejandro Junger: The Gut's Impact on Depression, Skin and Allergies + a Gut Repair Program
But what if your gut isn't necessary?
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Episode 413: Dr. Alejandro Junger: The Gut's Impact on Depression, Skin and Allergies + a Gut Repair Program
If it's not mold, if it's a really high quality organic coffee.
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Episode 413: Dr. Alejandro Junger: The Gut's Impact on Depression, Skin and Allergies + a Gut Repair Program
That's what I was going to say. It makes you like people who are constipated, like if they don't drink your cup of coffee.
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Episode 413: Dr. Alejandro Junger: The Gut's Impact on Depression, Skin and Allergies + a Gut Repair Program
Well, that's why they say the gut is your second brain.
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Episode 413: Dr. Alejandro Junger: The Gut's Impact on Depression, Skin and Allergies + a Gut Repair Program
Tell me other ones.
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Episode 413: Dr. Alejandro Junger: The Gut's Impact on Depression, Skin and Allergies + a Gut Repair Program
Okay, wait.
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Episode 413: Dr. Alejandro Junger: The Gut's Impact on Depression, Skin and Allergies + a Gut Repair Program
What about fruit when you're repairing your gut?
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Like?
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Episode 413: Dr. Alejandro Junger: The Gut's Impact on Depression, Skin and Allergies + a Gut Repair Program
Why?
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Episode 413: Dr. Alejandro Junger: The Gut's Impact on Depression, Skin and Allergies + a Gut Repair Program
Okay. Another one that we should stay away from.
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Episode 413: Dr. Alejandro Junger: The Gut's Impact on Depression, Skin and Allergies + a Gut Repair Program
Yeah.
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Episode 413: Dr. Alejandro Junger: The Gut's Impact on Depression, Skin and Allergies + a Gut Repair Program
So you write your progress note in that way, that if something happens, you covered all your... Right, so they're covering your own ass, which is the protocol, because especially in the U.S., you can get sued for anything and everything. Yes.
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Episode 413: Dr. Alejandro Junger: The Gut's Impact on Depression, Skin and Allergies + a Gut Repair Program
How about protein like chicken, beef, like animal protein?
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Episode 413: Dr. Alejandro Junger: The Gut's Impact on Depression, Skin and Allergies + a Gut Repair Program
So free range.
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Episode 413: Dr. Alejandro Junger: The Gut's Impact on Depression, Skin and Allergies + a Gut Repair Program
Do you say free range or do you say organic in your program?
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Episode 413: Dr. Alejandro Junger: The Gut's Impact on Depression, Skin and Allergies + a Gut Repair Program
Yeah, because the hormones and the antibiotics affect the gut.
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Episode 413: Dr. Alejandro Junger: The Gut's Impact on Depression, Skin and Allergies + a Gut Repair Program
For the 21-day program, there's no intermittent fasting on that. You have your shake, your meal.
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Episode 413: Dr. Alejandro Junger: The Gut's Impact on Depression, Skin and Allergies + a Gut Repair Program
No snack.
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Episode 413: Dr. Alejandro Junger: The Gut's Impact on Depression, Skin and Allergies + a Gut Repair Program
What are some symptoms that people could have to know if they even have a gut that needs repairing that maybe are not so obvious besides stress?
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Episode 413: Dr. Alejandro Junger: The Gut's Impact on Depression, Skin and Allergies + a Gut Repair Program
I was looking at my watch because I was thinking, oh my God, I hope I'm not like going, like, you must be, I've been talking to you forever.
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Episode 413: Dr. Alejandro Junger: The Gut's Impact on Depression, Skin and Allergies + a Gut Repair Program
No life, number six.
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Episode 413: Dr. Alejandro Junger: The Gut's Impact on Depression, Skin and Allergies + a Gut Repair Program
Right, right.
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Episode 413: Dr. Alejandro Junger: The Gut's Impact on Depression, Skin and Allergies + a Gut Repair Program
You can't do that to your mom.
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Episode 413: Dr. Alejandro Junger: The Gut's Impact on Depression, Skin and Allergies + a Gut Repair Program
Do you think it was the family constellation or was it the coffee enema?
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Episode 413: Dr. Alejandro Junger: The Gut's Impact on Depression, Skin and Allergies + a Gut Repair Program
Than yours? By God, yours is very strict and limiting.
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Episode 413: Dr. Alejandro Junger: The Gut's Impact on Depression, Skin and Allergies + a Gut Repair Program
I know. It's all relative.
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Episode 413: Dr. Alejandro Junger: The Gut's Impact on Depression, Skin and Allergies + a Gut Repair Program
Wait, let me ask you a question. So before moving to the United States and before doing the residency and eating all the foods and the chemicals and the processed foods, are you telling me that you weren't or never had any... symptoms of depression, any symptoms of allergies?
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Episode 413: Dr. Alejandro Junger: The Gut's Impact on Depression, Skin and Allergies + a Gut Repair Program
I want to go to it. You told me I can go.
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Episode 413: Dr. Alejandro Junger: The Gut's Impact on Depression, Skin and Allergies + a Gut Repair Program
Next March, you said.
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Episode 413: Dr. Alejandro Junger: The Gut's Impact on Depression, Skin and Allergies + a Gut Repair Program
Not exactly a hop, skip and a jump away from here, but I'll go. How long is it? Five days? A week?
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Episode 413: Dr. Alejandro Junger: The Gut's Impact on Depression, Skin and Allergies + a Gut Repair Program
So thank you for being on the show.
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Episode 413: Dr. Alejandro Junger: The Gut's Impact on Depression, Skin and Allergies + a Gut Repair Program
That's far.
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Episode 413: Dr. Alejandro Junger: The Gut's Impact on Depression, Skin and Allergies + a Gut Repair Program
Yeah. I mean, listen, I'm very interested in these things, especially when it's not like, you know, what's happening outside of the US is very fascinating to me, right? Like I love, you learn so many different, like you meet all these different people, healers, doctors, like the caliber is crazy.
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Episode 413: Dr. Alejandro Junger: The Gut's Impact on Depression, Skin and Allergies + a Gut Repair Program
How many years ago was that, though?
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Episode 413: Dr. Alejandro Junger: The Gut's Impact on Depression, Skin and Allergies + a Gut Repair Program
Okay.
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Episode 413: Dr. Alejandro Junger: The Gut's Impact on Depression, Skin and Allergies + a Gut Repair Program
But you know, number one, it's very few and far between. It's like a precious stone you have to really, really look and dig for, like a diamond, right? Like you don't find them very often. Seek and you shall find. Well, I mean, you do that too. You help people all the time for free, but most people don't. And so seek and you will find. Okay, well, I'm going to keep on seeking.
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Episode 413: Dr. Alejandro Junger: The Gut's Impact on Depression, Skin and Allergies + a Gut Repair Program
Exactly.
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Episode 413: Dr. Alejandro Junger: The Gut's Impact on Depression, Skin and Allergies + a Gut Repair Program
And you have to question things, and you have to inform yourself. I totally agree. All right, Dr. Unger, I have to wrap this. Where can people find more about your program, you?
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Episode 413: Dr. Alejandro Junger: The Gut's Impact on Depression, Skin and Allergies + a Gut Repair Program
Four books?
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Episode 413: Dr. Alejandro Junger: The Gut's Impact on Depression, Skin and Allergies + a Gut Repair Program
Well, that makes me feel really nice and that's very flattering. And I don't believe you. I bet you came here for bigger and better, not better shows, but bigger shows possibly.
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Episode 413: Dr. Alejandro Junger: The Gut's Impact on Depression, Skin and Allergies + a Gut Repair Program
What happened to the fourth book?
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Episode 413: Dr. Alejandro Junger: The Gut's Impact on Depression, Skin and Allergies + a Gut Repair Program
Well, I mean, I know you're the real deal and I love that you came on the show. And guys, if you have any gut issues, even if you don't think you do, it's a great thing to even do.
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Episode 413: Dr. Alejandro Junger: The Gut's Impact on Depression, Skin and Allergies + a Gut Repair Program
But never any signs of mental health issues?
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Episode 413: Dr. Alejandro Junger: The Gut's Impact on Depression, Skin and Allergies + a Gut Repair Program
That's what I was saying to you earlier. A lot of these things that you think it may be something else that's causing it, a lot of times it starts in the gut. So if you can clean up your gut, excuse that pun again, clean up your gut, you can be surprised at how much better you feel. So I would definitely check out the CLEAN program.
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Episode 413: Dr. Alejandro Junger: The Gut's Impact on Depression, Skin and Allergies + a Gut Repair Program
Wow. You should put that on a sticker. Maybe that could be your next book, your fifth book.
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Episode 413: Dr. Alejandro Junger: The Gut's Impact on Depression, Skin and Allergies + a Gut Repair Program
Clean mind. I like that. Anyway, thank you for coming on the show.
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Episode 413: Dr. Alejandro Junger: The Gut's Impact on Depression, Skin and Allergies + a Gut Repair Program
Always a pleasure.
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Episode 413: Dr. Alejandro Junger: The Gut's Impact on Depression, Skin and Allergies + a Gut Repair Program
So would you say that the system, the food system here, the health system here is so damaged and so detrimental to your health that it slowly deteriorated, not just your physical health, but your mental health?
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Episode 413: Dr. Alejandro Junger: The Gut's Impact on Depression, Skin and Allergies + a Gut Repair Program
But as a doctor who sees and has had experience, would you say that was not just your experience, but would you say that that would be your opinion? That's what's happening to people all the time. And people are not putting two and two together. So they're using these other, you know, rationales for why they're sick.
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Episode 413: Dr. Alejandro Junger: The Gut's Impact on Depression, Skin and Allergies + a Gut Repair Program
It's a business. Well, wait, wait. I'm going to explain the question. My question is, a lot of times when people are sick or they're... they have a mental health issue, depression, anxiety, they think, oh, it's because I'm working too much. Or, oh no, it's because I have this, you know, this circumstantial, it's a circumstantial reason.
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Episode 413: Dr. Alejandro Junger: The Gut's Impact on Depression, Skin and Allergies + a Gut Repair Program
But would you say that because of the way we live as a society with the processed food and the drugs and all the other things, that it's a slowly, it's killing us mentally, physically, and we're not even conscious of that?
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Episode 413: Dr. Alejandro Junger: The Gut's Impact on Depression, Skin and Allergies + a Gut Repair Program
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Episode 413: Dr. Alejandro Junger: The Gut's Impact on Depression, Skin and Allergies + a Gut Repair Program
Hello everyone. Welcome to the podcast. And today we have one of my friends who just so happens to be one of the smartest doctors I know. And he is here visiting from very far away. He lives all over the world. The last couple of years, doctor, I always can't pronounce. Again, you just told me how to actually say your last name.
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Episode 413: Dr. Alejandro Junger: The Gut's Impact on Depression, Skin and Allergies + a Gut Repair Program
The cortisol is so high in our body.
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Episode 413: Dr. Alejandro Junger: The Gut's Impact on Depression, Skin and Allergies + a Gut Repair Program
Isn't that life though, right? We always think we're the only ones.
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Episode 413: Dr. Alejandro Junger: The Gut's Impact on Depression, Skin and Allergies + a Gut Repair Program
It has a little bit of green tea in it. And it keeps you alert. But wait, I want to do it. I'm going to put it on my story. So let's do it.
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And have you seen since 2010s to now, right, in the last 15 years, what has been the surge? What percentage have you seen increase?
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Episode 447: Jonathan Haidt: Smartphones and the Anxious Generation - What Parents Need to Know
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Episode 447: Jonathan Haidt: Smartphones and the Anxious Generation - What Parents Need to Know
You know, what's interesting is that when you reduce play, you know, I'm even noticing as a parent, I'm going to take a step back. The other issue that we talk about beyond just social media that you speak about as well, that you speak about in the book, is I think the way that parenting has been evolved. Right. There's been a real difference in how we parent.
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Episode 447: Jonathan Haidt: Smartphones and the Anxious Generation - What Parents Need to Know
I was you know, when I was a kid, my mom worked. She left me at home. I had to feed myself. I had to do certain things on my own. That was the Gen X way.
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Episode 447: Jonathan Haidt: Smartphones and the Anxious Generation - What Parents Need to Know
Latchkey Kids. Yeah. Exactly. But it served me well in life, right? Because I became more resourceful. I can, I have coping skills. I know how to like take care of, you know, like you learn to take care of yourself as a human being.
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Episode 447: Jonathan Haidt: Smartphones and the Anxious Generation - What Parents Need to Know
What's happening now over, I'm noticing just within like the social groups I'm looking at around here where I live, that this idea of this gentle parenting, these trigger warnings, these safe spaces have really damaged our children.
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Episode 447: Jonathan Haidt: Smartphones and the Anxious Generation - What Parents Need to Know
And I guess my first question to you, how did that begin? And the interesting thing is, how did this even happen when the kids are actually on a computer or a phone more anywhere else? So how did the parents even become such helicopter parents if there was nothing to helicopter? Yeah. You know what I mean?
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Episode 447: Jonathan Haidt: Smartphones and the Anxious Generation - What Parents Need to Know
Yeah. The problem is it's becoming a social divide, right? It's becoming, it's becoming now, if you make mention of it, you are then on the wrong side of it. Like you're either this way, you're either like hardcore strong or you're, or you're this, like you're either a gentle parent or, or you're not right. And there's no, there's no middle ground. That's what I find anyway.
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Episode 447: Jonathan Haidt: Smartphones and the Anxious Generation - What Parents Need to Know
Like, how do you kind of, like, what's the path forward, right? Like, how does that happen? Because, you know, the truth of the matter is it's now becoming, it's becoming worse. It's not becoming better. The gentle parenting.
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Episode 447: Jonathan Haidt: Smartphones and the Anxious Generation - What Parents Need to Know
All right, so today on the podcast, we have Jonathan Haidt, who is the author of The Anxious Generation, probably, in my opinion, and I think almost every parent I know's opinion, one of the best books of, I think, of our decade. It is so timely, and I am just honored to have you on this podcast. Well, thank you.
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Episode 447: Jonathan Haidt: Smartphones and the Anxious Generation - What Parents Need to Know
Yeah. But what about the fact that with schools, they have now computers. Now everyone's doing things digitally. And on these digital computers, they're now found a way that they're playing video games on there.
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Episode 447: Jonathan Haidt: Smartphones and the Anxious Generation - What Parents Need to Know
Yeah. Right. So doesn't that kind of defeat the whole purpose?
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Episode 447: Jonathan Haidt: Smartphones and the Anxious Generation - What Parents Need to Know
It's really a pleasure to have you. I don't even know where to begin with you because you talk so much about the rise of anxiety and depression in our youth and social media, but it's not even that. I mean, I think I want to start by asking you, what was the tipping point for you in why you even wrote the book?
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Episode 447: Jonathan Haidt: Smartphones and the Anxious Generation - What Parents Need to Know
And also what happens is that the kids start to, they can wiggle around it. They can be like, oh, you know what? I'm doing my homework. And they're actually not doing their homework. They're talking to their friends and they're on the games and all these other things. There's so many things you can do. But According to some of the teachers here, people want it. It comes from above.
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Episode 447: Jonathan Haidt: Smartphones and the Anxious Generation - What Parents Need to Know
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Episode 447: Jonathan Haidt: Smartphones and the Anxious Generation - What Parents Need to Know
So if you're serious about leveling up, go to LiveMomentous.com and use code JEN for 20% off. Just act now. Start today. JEN for 20% off. LiveMomentous.com. What about the fact that you've mentioned something earlier about how it's really become about college now, right? Like parents are becoming these helicopter parenting and this, the modernized parenting about getting the kid into college.
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Episode 447: Jonathan Haidt: Smartphones and the Anxious Generation - What Parents Need to Know
That's like a very singular thing that people are focused on, right? Yeah. So if parents and students are focused on that, how are they also on their phone the whole time? Isn't that kind of like an oxymoron?
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Episode 447: Jonathan Haidt: Smartphones and the Anxious Generation - What Parents Need to Know
Yeah, I think that, I mean, you said also, which is very true, I mean, mental health, anxiety and depression. But I think also with that is coming this inability to socialize, period. You're not, you have no ability to socialize and make eye contact. How does that affect people later on in life in terms of working, like employment, dating, getting married, going out with girls, boys?
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Episode 447: Jonathan Haidt: Smartphones and the Anxious Generation - What Parents Need to Know
That whole world has become obsolete as well. That's right.
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Episode 447: Jonathan Haidt: Smartphones and the Anxious Generation - What Parents Need to Know
Why is that?
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Episode 447: Jonathan Haidt: Smartphones and the Anxious Generation - What Parents Need to Know
It was more like Playboy. You're looking at naked people, naked girls. You know what I mean? It's much more aggressive because you have to always elevate and elevate because things get boring.
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Episode 447: Jonathan Haidt: Smartphones and the Anxious Generation - What Parents Need to Know
We dive into the alarming rise in depression, anxiety, and suicide among young people and how screen time disrupt critical psychological development from resilience to conflict resolution. Dr. Haidt also shares why phones affect boys and girls differently, the science behind how screens rewire the brain, and his four key recommendations for healthier tech use.
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Episode 447: Jonathan Haidt: Smartphones and the Anxious Generation - What Parents Need to Know
Right, so then because of all of this, I mean, with the porn and everything, me, actually, Prof G, I know you're friendly with him too. Oh, I love Scott Gellar, yes. Yeah, we've talked about this many times on my podcast, his podcast, about this, about sex and people are not having sex anymore and why.
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Episode 447: Jonathan Haidt: Smartphones and the Anxious Generation - What Parents Need to Know
It's kind of like the porn also tweaks your brain into thinking when you see a real-life person, it's not attractive because... That's right. It's not what you're seeing. They're far from perfect. Right. Which is the part, like, listen, that's why, that's why plastic surgery is out. That's why all these filters are existing.
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Episode 447: Jonathan Haidt: Smartphones and the Anxious Generation - What Parents Need to Know
People are, are their brains are not realizing what's reality in real life versus what's like on. the computer. That's why AI, now I'm sure you know this too, like AI, people have AI girlfriends versus having real life girlfriends.
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Episode 447: Jonathan Haidt: Smartphones and the Anxious Generation - What Parents Need to Know
So is there any, are you optimistic or not about the future? Because things are not going to get better. It's just going to keep on, it's going to keep on snowballing. So, you know, even if we put into these, even if we like do the collective, as you call it, collective action, right?
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Episode 447: Jonathan Haidt: Smartphones and the Anxious Generation - What Parents Need to Know
Another problem is, and I know these are all, I'm not, I don't mean to talk about all the problems, but this is reality, right? A lot of parents are choosing to be, they want to be friends with their children. They don't want to be a parent to their children, right? They're like, oh, I don't want them to hate me. Just to give you an example, my kid has a flip phone, okay? And he hated me, right?
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Episode 447: Jonathan Haidt: Smartphones and the Anxious Generation - What Parents Need to Know
But listen, I tried to do the collective thing with a bunch of parents and nobody wanted to do it. When was this? When did you try this? 10 months ago, my kid was going into grade five to grade six. And I thought, you know what, let's try and hold off based, honestly, based on your book.
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Episode 447: Jonathan Haidt: Smartphones and the Anxious Generation - What Parents Need to Know
I should have bought your book in bulk because I've sent your book and I bought your book to probably like 40 people already, 50 people. I was thinking I should get a bulk order, probably get a better deal, right? But I agree. Are you optimistic that things are going to be, even with technology, even with all these things happening?
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Episode 447: Jonathan Haidt: Smartphones and the Anxious Generation - What Parents Need to Know
What do you think? Can you give me some ideas of what you think, like what you see?
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Episode 447: Jonathan Haidt: Smartphones and the Anxious Generation - What Parents Need to Know
How old are your kids? You said one kid is already in college.
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Episode 447: Jonathan Haidt: Smartphones and the Anxious Generation - What Parents Need to Know
Do you think that public or private school is better for a kid from your research?
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Episode 447: Jonathan Haidt: Smartphones and the Anxious Generation - What Parents Need to Know
Well, because you're a social psychologist, so you have so much deep research in all of these things. I'm sure that you're constantly seeing data and numbers and all these things. Is there one app over the other that's even more dangerous? Is TikTok more dangerous than Instagram? Yeah.
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Episode 447: Jonathan Haidt: Smartphones and the Anxious Generation - What Parents Need to Know
Are you trying to lobby these people at Meta and how do you get them on board to help with this crisis? Because their job is, they're like a marketing agency. They want to make money, right?
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Episode 447: Jonathan Haidt: Smartphones and the Anxious Generation - What Parents Need to Know
Can you just mention again, because I want people to really listen to the thing that you're involved with, with the free range, Let It Grow, Let Grow?
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Episode 447: Jonathan Haidt: Smartphones and the Anxious Generation - What Parents Need to Know
And also, I think I also heard once that you were going to really focus on how social media was affecting girls. And you also then kind of like made it much more robust. How does social media affect boys and girls differently from your research?
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Episode 447: Jonathan Haidt: Smartphones and the Anxious Generation - What Parents Need to Know
It's amazing. Jonathan, it was amazing to have you on. It was a pleasure. Every parent needs to read the book, Anxious Generation, and not just me buying it for people. You could go buy it yourself on Amazon. So thank you so much for being on the show. And like I said, I appreciate your time.
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Episode 447: Jonathan Haidt: Smartphones and the Anxious Generation - What Parents Need to Know
Thank you.
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Episode 447: Jonathan Haidt: Smartphones and the Anxious Generation - What Parents Need to Know
Most don't, right? Most don't.
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Episode 447: Jonathan Haidt: Smartphones and the Anxious Generation - What Parents Need to Know
Whether you're a parent, teacher, or just someone who cares about mental health, this conversation is a must listen. Before we dive into today's episode, I first want to thank our sponsor, Therasage. Their tri-light panel has become my favorite biohacking thing for healing my body. It's a portable red light panel that I simply cannot live without. I literally bring it with me everywhere I go.
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Episode 447: Jonathan Haidt: Smartphones and the Anxious Generation - What Parents Need to Know
You know what's interesting? You said something that I caught. I'm misquoting it, but you'll get the point that we overprotect our children in real time, in the real world. And we underprotect them online. Exactly. Exactly. And it's true because they're not these creepers are not like in the park anymore. They're actually online.
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Episode 447: Jonathan Haidt: Smartphones and the Anxious Generation - What Parents Need to Know
You know, a couple of months ago, I was walking in my neighborhood, which is a good neighborhood. And there were all these police cars around. And it was because there was some guy, by the way. A successful attorney guy who you would never think in a million years would be the guy that was going on Instagram, trapping these young boys. And then they meet in a mall. And so that's what happened.
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Episode 447: Jonathan Haidt: Smartphones and the Anxious Generation - What Parents Need to Know
And then they caught him. Right? And then the guy ran away. But the guy got off. The guy got off.
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Episode 447: Jonathan Haidt: Smartphones and the Anxious Generation - What Parents Need to Know
No, he met this 13-year-old boy in the mall in front of Adidas at Century City Mall. And they didn't have quote-unquote proof because it didn't happen. They couldn't prove that this was happening. And he got off.
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Episode 447: Jonathan Haidt: Smartphones and the Anxious Generation - What Parents Need to Know
And so they're using social media as the avenue to meet these people in real time. It's not happening in real time.
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Episode 447: Jonathan Haidt: Smartphones and the Anxious Generation - What Parents Need to Know
In this episode of Habits & Hustle, I'm joined by Dr. Jonathan Haidt. He's an NYU professor and the best-selling author of the book, Anxious Generation. We explore how smartphones and social media are reshaping childhood and not for the better.
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Episode 447: Jonathan Haidt: Smartphones and the Anxious Generation - What Parents Need to Know
We have, and we've actually like eliminated the idea of play. Like play doesn't even happen anymore. It's so sad. It's really sad. Can you talk about the importance of play? Why it is so important? And because of what's happened and without it, what happens? Mm-hmm.
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Episode 447: Jonathan Haidt: Smartphones and the Anxious Generation - What Parents Need to Know
And I personally use their red light therapy to help reduce inflammations in places in my body where, honestly, I have pain. You can use it on a sore back, stomach cramps, shoulder. ankle. Red light therapy is my go-to. Plus, it also has amazing anti-aging benefits, including reducing signs of fine lines and wrinkles on your face, which I also use it for.
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Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing
Abe, actually, you're the doctor. Can you talk about what we're doing?
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Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing
Does it make a difference what time you're working out though? Like morning versus night?
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Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing
Aren't you tired by the end of the day?
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Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing
You know why that is?
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Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing
You have no kids and no responsibilities. And that is why it is impossible because, you know, a certain time of day happens and like, you're just, I feel the, I'm the opposite where I feel like if you don't knock it out first thing in the morning, it will never happen.
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Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing
I will be like, I'll think of every other, not because even I want to, but something will come up inevitably that I would have to take care of or my kid or this or that. So, and then it's always in your head. Like, oh, I have to work out. I got to work out. I got to do it. But if you just get it done, then you have the energy that you need for the day to work well.
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Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing
Like, to me, if I'm doing it also at the end of the day, like, doesn't that defeat the purpose of having the wherewithal and the brain focus and the alertness?
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Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing
Right. Okay. So what are your habits though, besides exercise every day?
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Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing
Oh, it was horrible. But by the way, we actually did the NAD. We did a couple of those NAD IVs with Dennis Rodman.
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Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing
I've never heard of that. What's a cortisol blocker?
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Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing
I've never heard of that before.
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Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing
That's something I've never heard.
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Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing
That's amazing. The magnesium, I've heard a million times. Never heard about the cortisone blocker ever. Is there danger towards that or like?
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Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing
Yeah. Let's take a quick break from this episode to discuss a very important habit we can all improve on. Do you know that three out of four homes in America have harmful contaminants in their tap water? As someone like me who is obsessed with building better healthy habits, this statistic stopped me in my tracks. I mean, our bodies are 60% water. Shouldn't we care about what's in it?
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Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing
That's why I'm really excited to tell you guys about AquaTrue. It has been a game changer in my journey towards better health. Here's what makes it special. Their purifiers use a four-stage reverse osmosis process that removes 15 times more contaminants than regular pitcher filters. And we're talking about that like scary stuff, like PFAs, that...
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Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing
Forever Chemicals founded almost 45% of US tap water. And the one thing I actually love about AquaTrue is that it's not complicated to install. You just plug it in and you're good to go. And they last between six months to two years. And one set of filters makes an equivalent of 4,500 bottles of water. So that's like less than 3% per bottle. It is really amazing.
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Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing
So if you're ready to upgrade your water, I hope you are, do it now because AquaTrue comes with a 30-day money-back guarantee and even makes a great gift. Today, you guys can receive 20% off any AquaTrue purifier. Just go to AquaTrue.com, that's A-Q-U-A-T-R-U.com and enter code HUSTLE at checkout. That's 20% off any AquaTrue water purifier when you go to AquaTrue.com and use the promo code HUSTLE.
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Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing
I find that the guys who are doing all this biohacking, either they look really old and they look like double their age or they look exceptionally good. But with women, I just find they just look their age. I don't find that in terms of the aesthetic piece.
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Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing
I find it makes a big difference sometimes with the men, but not with the women.
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Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing
Nine hours?
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Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing
That never happens.
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Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing
Jeez, that's, I mean, when you have children, you'll never ever see that the light of day again in terms of sleep like that. It's a whole different life when you have people who have kids versus who don't. And people who have kids, they age 20 years.
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Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing
So like if you see someone who's like 40 with kids versus someone who's 40 without kids, I promise you the person that's 40 with kids will look 10 years older.
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Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing
I think it's sleep deprivation. I think it's overall just stress. I think when you have more just overall responsibility, I think over time it does take a toll. Look at Obama. Every president, by the way, who goes into the office, right, just the overall stress and toll of what that job is, they come out, they go in looking like JFK Jr.
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Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing
And they come out looking like, you know, Ed Grimley, like every single time.
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Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing
I mean, what, the kids or the presidency? I guess so. Yes, it is worth it. They say it is, you know, but no, I mean, listen, yes. Like everything in life, there's good things and bad things with it. So let's talk more about the longevity stuff.
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Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing
Okay, so let's talk about this. So for those of you who don't know, because we're talking as if everyone should know what an NAD IV is, right? So people do know what NAD is, I think. A lot of people who know about NAD, but people take it in pill form. Can we just give a brief overview of what NAD is just overall, what the benefits are, and the different forms so people have an idea?
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Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing
Yeah, exactly. Don't have kids. You want to live forever? Don't have kids. Actually, that's not true. In fact, all the research has proven and show that what makes people the healthiest and live the longest is actually socialization and community and family, right, or community. And when you have people that you love and love you, that there's no difference.
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Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing
better supplement on the planet to be happy over time, live longer, all those things than that. You can do all the supplements you want and all the saunas that you want, but if you don't have a sense of community or have people to share it with, you might as well have nothing.
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Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing
Hold on a second. What do you mean? There's an infrared, there's actually sauna clubs?
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Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing
That's amazing. That's actually really interesting because I figured that like people, like minds find each other, right? Like if you're someone who's into running, you'll find someone who runs at a running club. And I know that if you're into saunas and cold plunges, you'll find people who are interested.
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Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing
But that idea, I never heard that they actually, that they exist already where you're merging the socialization with the actual modality. That is so smart.
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Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing
So much better.
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Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing
I feel like drinking has become passe. Like the new, you know, drinking is cold plunging or infrared, red light and cold plunging or the hybrid, the hot, cold,
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Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing
Yeah. Not so great. So is there actually a place that you said already that you can cold plunge, you said, and have friends in there? And besides, you said the sauna one is the one that you said.
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Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing
So if you're only in the cold plunge for three minutes, right? So that's not very... It's like speed dating. Yeah, I was going to say, is it like speed dating? Yeah. Oh my God, I love that so much. Okay, tell me other things like that. I'm so glad that you came on here. Tell me other things like that that we haven't, like people don't know about.
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Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing
So just some backstory. Sure.
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Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing
have similar interests to because when you go to a bar you know who knows who's there but if you go to a place that's oriented toward wellness you're going to meet people with wellness focus i know you know someone was on the podcast recently i don't even think it's out yet or maybe by the time this is it might be but she was saying like and then i looked into it and it was like the most popular thing is bird watching they have clubs now for bird watching good for longevity
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Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing
No, it's not good. Well, maybe it is. It's nature. You're out in nature, out in the fresh air, and you are meeting people. There's birdwatching clubs, and I'm not talking for people who are like 110 years old. I'm talking people who are in their 30s, 20s, 40s, whatever, who are going into these birdwatching groups, and it's the hottest thing in the world.
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Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing
Exactly.
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Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing
Birdwatching is perfect. Well, then tell me what you think about cryotherapy. How is that different than cold plunging?
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Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing
That's interesting because the cold plunge to me just, I feel, would increase my cortisol. Because I'm so nervous and so like, it's like the flight or fight thing. Like, I don't want to be in there. Unless your brain is in the right place, isn't it kind of cortisol producing? Yeah.
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Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing
That's a good, I think that's true. I really, I agree with you. What is the newest, latest and greatest that maybe people haven't heard 700 times? I know everyone talks about peptides and everyone talks about the sauna and the cold planners like we just did at Nauseam.
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Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing
Is there anything on the cutting edge or on the forefront that we can be, that you've seen has shown good results that maybe not everybody has talked about at Nauseam?
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Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing
Well, I've been talking more about stem cells recently. I had Dr. Adil Khan on the podcast. I don't know if you know who he is. You do? He does them out of Cabo, Mexico and Dubai, outside the U.S. Because from what I was, I was under the impression and what I was told and what I've read and researched is that, you know, the stem cells that are available in the U.S.
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Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing
are not as, I guess, strong maybe or as potent as the ones that you can get out of the U.S. Is that true?
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Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing
Oh, I understand. So that's why it's more potent. Right.
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Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing
Okay.
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Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing
So I went, he did like the stem cell facial on me. And when I say the word facial, I use that word very lightly. It was no facial. It was no spa facial, I'll tell you. Like I thought I was going to be going and he's going to do this like lovely, like, you know, treatment and put some stem cells. No, he takes needles and injects all these stem cells in my face. Have you heard of this before?
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Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing
No, no. He put injected stem cells in my face, like with a needle.
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Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing
But you could do the stem cell. So then you're saying that you can just get microneedling and then you just wipe the stem cells on your face versus inject them.
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Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing
That's not as potent as getting needle, needle, needle, needle.
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Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing
It was really painful. But shout out to Dr. Adil Khan because his team was amazing. And he's doing like some amazing things over there. But I find that that's become a big area that people are talking about. It's regenerative medicine.
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Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing
Can you talk about that? Talk about that. Because I know that you work as an addiction detox person as well.
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Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing
And so can we talk about that? And what, like, I thought ketamine was good for depression.
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Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing
Where do you get them?
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Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing
How many sessions do you even need to be effective?
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Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing
Have you tried it before?
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Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing
Really? Which way have you done?
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Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing
Aren't you a provider?
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Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing
So when you say intramuscular, you mean like a needle that goes, like, how does it work?
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Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing
Okay, so NR, right? Is NR the same as NAD?
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Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing
And how long does it last, though, in terms of the effects?
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Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing
I think we had like three or four episodes, maybe more, but you never heard him talk because I talked the whole time. And he kind of was, you know, what would you say, Abe? What happened to you?
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Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing
Yeah, it makes sense to me. How about we were talking about addiction. I've heard and we talked like, does NAD really help addiction?
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Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing
That's so interesting to me. What's the percentage of people it actually helps?
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Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing
Okay, tell us about something. Okay, so now we got that. So ketamine, stem cells, NAD, NR, niagen. I love these social mingling with all these wellness modalities. Anything else that you can talk about that's maybe a little bit more unique that we haven't heard of?
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Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing
That's amazing.
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Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing
So that environmental test that you take, who does it?
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Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing
I really want to take that test.
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Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing
What was it leading to?
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Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing
Right. That's an amazing test. Yeah. How much is it?
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Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing
I think that's such a great test. So it's called the Environmental
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Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing
That's a good tip. That's a good, that's a good tip actually.
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Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing
Do you notice a difference between how you feel now after doing some solutions to what you found?
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Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing
I want to get that test.
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Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing
I can't. Why didn't you ever tell me about it?
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Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing
Oh my God. Come on. Four years is not, that's not true, but it is pretty close. Okay. That's a really good, how about genetic testing? You know, there's a lot of talk about genetic testing. What do you think about that one?
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Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing
I like that. Is there any other tests that we like that are on that we should be doing the environmental test, the genetic test? Well, you're not so much on the genetic right now, but like, is there anything else?
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Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing
Okay, so there's always these a million, I get a ton of questions just on the difference between NR and NMN. Can you talk about why is there such controversy between the two? And is there a big difference?
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Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing
Do you like the full body scan?
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Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing
That's good information. I like that. Abe, thank you for being on the podcast.
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Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing
Yeah, that works out well. We'll do an every four-year check-in.
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Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing
You won't recognize me. You'll probably think I'm Sydney. Perfect. Yeah, perfect. Hey. Where do people find more about you? You have so many companies. You have ConciergeMD, Drip Hydration, Dr. Abe Malkin. What else do you have?
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Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing
You said one more. Wellness something.
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Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing
Where can't we find you? Or, you know, if you follow you on Instagram, you look like you're like a travel influencer because I swear, you're like jumping off a cliff in Fiji and then you're like jumping out of a plane in, I don't know where, in like, where were you? Colombia. I don't know. You're always like somewhere.
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Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing
Of course. Yes, I would. Yes. But then when I call him, he has to, like, he's unavailable. I'd be kind of, thank God you have a great team of people who work here. Like Neil.
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Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing
Neil's the one with the real brains here, right?
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Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing
I could. So by the way, guys, Neil is Abe's partner. He's a dermatologist. He's very nice. He's very knowledgeable and I like him a lot.
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Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing
Neil, there you go. Okay. It's true. All right, Abe. Thank you. And don't be a stranger. I won't. Okay. Bye.
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Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing
Okay, so if you're taking an oral, let's just say with the oral, NR versus the oral NMN, which one is more effective?
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Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing
So if you're taking in an IV form versus orally, it kind of goes right into your bloodstream. So is that why, A, does it work better? What is the difference? Or you can also take those, people I know are taking NAD shots regularly.
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Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing
Oh, it's hilarious. So Abe and I, just full disclosure, used to be like super, super tight. We still are. He's like my little brother. I love him. But Abe went on to be bigger and better and just so crazy successful. I'm very proud of him. He has like five different big projects. health and wellness companies. He covers everything. So he is like the guy in longevity.
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Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing
But does it store or do you just pee it out?
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Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing
That's good to know. I'm always concerned with supplements in general, that your body will acclimate or you're giving it what it's not deficient in, so therefore it actually can be harmful. That was always my concern.
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Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing
So then, okay, why is there so much talk though about NAD and anti-aging? So if it's about your cellular health, your mitochondrial health, brain fog, how does that, maybe this sounds stupid, but how does it make you look younger?
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Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing
I'm just fascinated by all this because like, how does anyone know what really works? Right. Because we're living in a time when like everyone's doing all these things, right? The cold plunging, the saunas, the IVs, you name it, right? Like red light, all the things. And like a lot of times people are like, well, does it work? And you're like, I don't know. Like, how do you know?
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Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing
You guys, this is a real treat because if you've been listening to Habits & Hustle from the beginning, then you may know who my guest is today. It is my dearest of dearest friends, Dr. Abe, otherwise known as Dr. Abe Malkin. Him and I actually started the podcast together five years ago.
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Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing
Like what are like, unless it's like, is it a placebo effect? Like if you think it works, it works. Like, is there a measurable test that people can take to see what's working, what's not working?
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Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing
Like if I have a question, I always call Abe and then he's too big for me. So he passes me on to an underling, but that's okay. So Abe, anyway, thank you for being here.
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Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing
Well, it's so funny you brought up Brian Johnson. His name has come up now like four times to me in the last like few days. Because funnily enough, me and Ben Greenfield did one of these Niagen IVs on Friday. That's why I was like, well, is it okay if I do one again? And we talked about him because the guy's doing like, he makes Ben Greenfield look like a wallflower compared to it.
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Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing
Like I said to him, like, what has he done that you haven't done at this point? Because the guy's like all in. Is that, and I hate to be, and I'm not trying to sound stupid, mean or anything like that. But when I look at Brian, he doesn't look that much younger, and he's done so many things. So is there a point you pass with no return? The truth is, I know a lot of people who don't do shit.
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Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing
They do whatever, and they look a million times better than all these people who are doing all of these crazy modalities and routines and What part of it is just genetics? How much can you fight genetics and how much of it is actually genetics?
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Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing
Yeah, I know. See, that's exactly what you did. And now I'm back. Right, right. Now you're back after five years and crushing the world. By the way, for you guys who are watching this and not listening, Abe and I are actually doing an IV. It's called a Niagen IV. And it is supposed to be the next level game changing for your mitochondrial health, your cellular health.
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Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing
Right. I agree. So give me an example. What do you do? What's your daily habits? You do this all day long.
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Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing
I know. I do incorporate the habits and the routines. I just mix and mix where I put it in the podcast. But here you are. You do this all day. And I know your client list and the people that see you are insane. It's like all the biggest names in the world, literally, in everything, business and in Hollywood. Yeah. Now you tell me what you do daily. Like, I know you're very healthy.
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Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing
I see, I know your life, but like, tell me where you're a non-negotiable. What are your absolute non-negotiables?
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Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing
So exercise for me also is my absolute non-negotiable. Everything else can take a backseat to me because that's great for my mental health. Like the brain, but talk about brain fog. The best way to counteract brain fog, in my opinion, is exercise. It makes you way more productive. It makes my brain work a thousand times faster. And I have energy, like energy begets energy to me.
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Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing
It's like, I don't know how, like my, I'm unable to like function properly and well without it. But you, your schedule, like, are you still like you travel? Like you're like a jet setter. You're never even in one place longer than four days. Like seriously, like how often are you on a plane now? Like every two days?
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Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing
To me, what I think about, I love running too. I feel like it's controlled meditation. It's forcing me to go into a state of flow that I would otherwise never do. And I always say to people, meditation doesn't have to just be you sitting in an om position, like on a cushion. Everyone's different. For me, my meditation practice is running. I get my best ideas also from running.
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Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing
But I was going to say though, I find... When I travel, it's very hard for me to stay on routine. It's very hard for me to keep my habits, even if they are non-negotiables, even if, you know, I know the importance of it because like, you know, you get fatigued differently, like your circadian rhythm is off.
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Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing
How are you able to exercise daily like you do while you're, and you're not going to like, you know, you're not going an hour away. You're going all around the world. How are you doing that?
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
It's much higher.
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
Really?
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
And the anxiety kicks in.
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
Yeah.
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
I know him.
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
Wow. So you count, you do four in.
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
Okay.
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
Wouldn't you be sleeping by then, hopefully?
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
So, because that, I think what you just said is exactly the thing. I get monkey mind, right? I start thinking of all my problems and I get such anxiety. I know. And then like it just feeds on itself. Of course. And then 3.30 is now like 5.30.
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
So you mean people are now being prescribed Monjaro or- Zepbound. Or Ozempic for sleep issues?
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
Yeah. Right.
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
Exactly. I'm like, oh my God, I'm going to be so tired. I'm not going to have any energy again. And then it takes you down a bad rabbit hole, right? Absolutely.
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
Okay. Because I want to know how to get rid of monkey minds in the middle of the night.
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
Okay.
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
Okay.
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
All you need to do is just cross your arms and front legs like this.
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
That's it. And you get about 20% of what it would be if you were actually sleeping.
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
But like if I'm doing, if I'm waking up in the middle of the night, five nights in a row, doesn't that just overall ruin my health?
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
Because I think that's what happens, right? Because you get what I feel, what I think a lot of people do is that if it's happened once or twice in a row, you get nervous to go to bed. It's going to continue to happen.
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
Right, because you're like, oh my God, I'm going to wake up again. Right. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
I actually think, to be honest, what people are doing more than drinking now are they're taking gummies to go to bed.
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
What's CBN?
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
10.
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
Wow. So you're basically eliminating the time in bed where you're just like, you know, thinking and basically just like ruminating.
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
So you go to bed later and wake up earlier. Exactly. And then you over time expand on it.
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
That's what you guys do in like sleep clinics? Yes.
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
Well, that's the thing. Anybody I know who's ever taken Ambien, they get addicted to that stuff and then they can't fall asleep without it.
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
Right.
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
What about using Benadryl to fall asleep?
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
No, I did not.
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
I've never heard that.
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
How, so how, oh my gosh, because that actually is the only thing that works. If I can't fall asleep, like, and it's been days.
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
Right.
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
But wait a minute. So that's crazy. I know. See, every time you're on this show, every time I learn so many new things. It's unbelievable about sleep. I heard you talk about vitamin C in sleep. Does vitamin C actually help you?
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
Yeah, get to the root cause.
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
What's it called?
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
What about just taking magnesium?
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
You told me that before that you did that study that like it was like way above any other-
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
Did you, did you test other magnesiums to see or?
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
Okay. How about melatonin?
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
Oh my, yeah. I mean, first of all, Ozempic and Monjar, these drugs are like taking over the world.
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
So like people like who are aging, like you were just saying, just to kind of finish.
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
Yeah.
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
It is?
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
You really are. What do you mean?
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
No kidding. I know. And also, it's also not something to get addicted to either. Correct. So basically then, magnesium, vitamin D, you say, are two that you're comfortable with.
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
And omegas. And omegas. Well, yeah. So wait, what do you mean? So talk about the omegas. You say gaba root and hops.
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
Thank you.
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
Thank you.
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
Thank you.
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
Really? Well, it also just takes away your desire to live. That's what it does though, right? Because it's like, I don't feel like eating. I don't feel like going out to the... I don't feel like gambling because it's like you become so tired on it. You become lethargic on it.
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
Thank you.
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
It's great. Can I tell you something? When it came out like, well, I know 20 years ago it's been out. By the way, we're going to get into sleep, you guys. So just give me two seconds. But when it was like really popular, like three, four years ago, I tried it for a week just to see. I was so nauseous. I was so sick on it.
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
Thank you.
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
Dr. Michael Bruce back on the podcast. Thanks. Thank you so much for coming back.
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
Thank you. Right, because it's consistent. Because it's consistent, right? Exactly.
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
Yes, that's a very big trend right now.
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
Do you think they're even useful, though? Like, is it better just not to wear them?
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
Yeah.
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
Right, you can see it.
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
So you have people that you work with, celebrities, for what reason? Because they can't fall asleep?
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
Well, because they were saying that the reason why people were getting so nauseous and sick was because the dose was so big.
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
I know Carter.
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
Yes. So you meet everyone through me.
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
Oh, that's a good one.
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
That's a good one to talk about, right? So someone like that who has a schedule, they're like obviously night owls.
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
He's a shift worker, right. So let's say you get off stage and it's five o'clock in the morning or four o'clock in the morning. You're super amped.
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
And that's why they started, it became a popular thing to do this microdosing. But anyway, like I just found like if you have no desire to like actually like live.
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
Like, how do you get someone like that to go to sleep?
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
Well, you talk about drink. Is that what you meant? Yeah.
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
How does that affect your sleep?
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
I mean, I'd rather be 10 pounds heavier or 20 pounds heavier, right? Like it's ridiculous. Okay. So let's get into all the other sleep stuff. Sure. So your new book is called Sleep.
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
Right. That could be a, that could be a cause that you don't even think about.
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
It is a three-peat. And you think, like, how much more information can you even know about sleep?
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
So that's funny you say that too, because I'm trying to get all of my water intake in as well, because I hate water. Well, you can't hate water, girl. I hate it. I mean, I'll drink tea. Well, you can get water and other things.
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
But what I mean is because of that, I have this whole system in place so I can drink a lot of water during the day.
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
Like whitish yellow.
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
But no, I don't think I am. Because I'll tell you, I'll tell you. Because I get headaches sometimes. I feel my skin looks dehydrated. But what I was, but that's, this is not about, it's not about me. But what I was going to say is in the morning, what I will do to try to get my water, my water quotient, I will drink a liter, a liter and a half in the morning. I'll take lemons.
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
Wow. Yeah, you make it really easy. Okay, so why do I need to read that book if I sleep, drink, and breathe every day? Is there something that you're going to teach me that I don't know about?
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
I'll squeeze the lemons in. Oh, that's good.
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
Make my own what? Mineral water. Yeah, I know.
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
So basically what I'm saying is I like take my supplements with the big liter and a half of water and I gulp it.
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
So is it better to drink it over like an hour period versus for a 20-minute period? Yeah, 20 minutes.
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
But what happens if you don't have access to sunlight? Would you tell people?
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
So tell me again how to remove brain fog.
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
So say the whole thing again.
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
Wow. What about just drinking a cup of coffee?
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
Wow.
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
That's a long time to wait.
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
It is because if you want to work out and do all these things, don't you kind of need to have your coffee?
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
You think hydrate, okay, okay. But can you wait, what's the difference between waiting an hour or 90 minutes?
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
And what time is the latest that you would suggest someone drinking coffee?
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
Wow. Okay. What about foods to eat for sleep?
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
So, okay, so let's just go over basic hacks for sleeping or habits, right?
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
Yeah, we got that one down.
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
That's a really good one, actually. I heard you once talk about something about water bottles, like put something...
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
Yeah, like those cold mattresses. Right.
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
You put two, basically two frozen water bottles on the side.
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
Really?
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
But what if you're a side sleeper? It's okay. Well, then the other hip will be up. Do you tape it to your thigh?
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
Really?
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
How did you figure that one out?
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
That's right. Because up here it's more bony, right? So it'd be like freezing.
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
Okay. Give me a few other sleep hacks.
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
Oh, in sleep.
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
Okay, how about give me a few on how to fall asleep, not just how to fall back asleep, but how to fall asleep. Sure. And what would you consider, I mean, we all know about the temperature and dark rooms. What's your take on mouth tape? Okay.
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
What's the purpose?
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
Because it's a very hot trend right now.
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
Yeah, Hostage.
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
Yeah. I mean, I know. But it's interesting how there's all these fads and people don't know what's what. So how do you know if you have sleep apnea? Yeah.
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
What is it? What is it? I was going to say, it'd be a perfect, that's a great thing for you for business.
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
What about like in general snoring? What does it mean?
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
Are there different rules that apply for kids who have sleeping issues? You ever hear about kids and sleeping issues?
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
Right? Sure. But you cease to amaze every time you give better and better, more concise, new information every time.
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
Yeah, yeah. Well, yeah. You would think. You would hope. Right. Okay, sorry. I'm just looking through your book here because what I saw was interesting is you say here about, wait, you talk about all sorts of different waters, water trails. Yeah.
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
Yeah, distilled water is the worst water.
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
Right, right, right.
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
Oh, Mountain?
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
Because of the glass? Yes.
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
But wait a second. The reason why I was bringing it up that you're talking about alkaline water and distilled water and spring water, is there a particular water that you think is the most hydrating for someone to drink?
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
Mineral water.
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
But mineral water, like what?
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
Right. That's what you told me earlier. You said, oh, you can make your own mineral water. Right. That's what you meant.
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
So mineral water is the best water?
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
Big problem like what?
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
So how does that affect your sleep?
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
I'm full of them.
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
That's why I wanted to know what's the best water, because I think alkaline water is the water that I've been drinking.
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
And also, the big trend is hydrogen water.
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
That's good to know. So mineral water, like every, this is the thing you give you, you're very good at giving, like you're very practical.
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
You know, and you give people like the, like truthfully actionable things that people can do today to help, help themselves like right in the moment.
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
There you go. I mean, it's so funny you say that because all these other modalities, like the red light and the sauna and the cold plunge, they maybe move the needle. Itty, bitty, teeny, tiny. Exactly. One to 8%, okay? If that. If that. But people are not even focusing on the fundamentals, right? Right, and that's what this is.
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
But that's what you do better than anybody. Thanks. No, you do. I laugh because I can literally just press record, ask you one question, go pick up my kids at school, come back.
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
Come on. Exactly. You could just go for two hours. I could be like, okay, Michael, how do you sleep better? Bye. Be back in two hours. But it's amazing. Okay, so your new book called Sleep, Drink, Breathe, Simple Daily Habits for Profound Long-Term Health. This is what, book number? Five. Five, yikes.
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
That's amazing. Yeah. That's amazing.
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
Really? How about a dream book next?
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
To get into. Wow. Well, again, it's been a pleasure having you on the podcast. Can you come back again?
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
I don't know, but we'll figure it out. We'll figure it out. Okay, guys, pick up, check out Sleep, Drink, Breathe. You will not be disappointed. Michael is full of so many amazing tips and tricks, as I'm sure you can have told us from the episode. So thank you, Mr. Sleep Doctor.
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
Sweet dreams. Bye.
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
And it's been proven, and you've taught me this, that sleep is the most, the core component of overall health. Yeah, no question. When you look into it and how sleep can really, it can disrupt everything in your body and affect you in terms. Well, you tell me, you can tell us again. How does not sleeping affect your physical health?
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
You guys are in for a huge treat. We have one of our favorite guests ever. There you go. On this podcast. His podcast has still, I think you're still like the number one most downloaded podcast. That's why I keep on bringing you back because you bring it. We have the sleep doctor.
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
right?
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
No matter what.
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
That's a great, even on the weekends, that's a great tip. By the way, though, I think, doesn't it happen naturally? Like I'm so used to waking up at 6.20 during the week with my kid, that like I automatically, my eyes will, my eyes just pop open.
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
Yeah, no, that's so, so you're saying once, so even if that happens on the weekend, because that happens to me, Saturday and Sunday, pop, my eyes go open. I shouldn't just like, so what I would normally do is just like, I would like be on my phone checking, like I'd go on social media until 7.15, not to do that.
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
Right. Actually, they get up at the same time too.
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
That's even better.
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
So basically then that's the trick, to wake up every day, no matter if it's weekend, weekday, it doesn't matter.
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
Really? You can't get rid of them?
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
How?
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
I know. Well, you know what I feel happens now, like now that I'm in my 40s now? Falling asleep is not the problem.
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
The problem is getting up in the middle of the night. Oh, yes. I can fix that. Okay, so this is my problem. So I fall asleep, no problem. 3.30, boom, I'm awake. And then once I'm awake, I can't fall asleep again.
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
Okay, go ahead.
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
Really?
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
What bed should I buy?
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Episode 429: Dr. Michael Breus: The Sleep Doctor on Transforming Sleep and Health with Simple Daily Habits
Three o'clock in the morning.
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
It's so true because success, I think it depends on who you ask. It's all perspective, right? I think the easy thing is, oh, how much money did you make? Are you successful? But to me, actually, the people who are the most wealthy, richest people I know are usually the most unsuccessful in everything else in life, which makes it kind of like a really, it's like the juxtaposition, right?
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
Because they focus solely on money, but they have no time, they have no relationships, they have no nothing, and their health is taking a nosedive. And I guess, not to kind of sit there and just kind of like pontificate, but how do you, if you are somebody... You can't really change that perspective, right? Like you don't know what you don't know.
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
Do you think you have to have some kind of like big moment in time, like something that gets slapped in your face to kind of see that perspective? Because otherwise, I think people lose out on a lot of other types of wealth they can be.
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
There's not, but I think they're trying to be cautionary. But like, I just remember like, oh my God, as I'm like drinking and I'm like, maybe I should just have half of this time.
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
That's low. I thought it'd be even higher, actually.
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
I'm going to use him as an example, okay? Elon Musk is obviously the richest person in the world. But I feel like his life is very lopsided, right?
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
Like he may be like a rock star in so many other areas, but really if you actually listen to him and talk with him and see him, you can tell that there's like a deep need, like there's a lot of other things lacking, you know, in his life, which means I bet you if you were to sit here and talk to him, he'd think he wasn't very successful.
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
He'd be successful in one area, but I bet you he'd be really lonely and sad and probably not very happy, right?
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
Right, it's the ripple effect, right?
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
And I think the start is always in, like the stop is in the start, right? And it's like inertia, right? Something in motion stays in motion.
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
But I think it's very true. I think it's about something in motion stays in motion. And I guess what I always get, people always say to me, well, how do I start? Like, what do I do? And my answer, and I think we're very aligned here because I think when I was going through your stuff, I always say it's about actually exercising. Exercising, I think, is the catalyst for
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
And it's like a gateway drug to life, in my opinion.
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
Because to me, number one, what it does to your brain, like for me, it's not just a physicality. It's like what you do for your mental health, your focus, all the things. I used to do this treadmill. I don't know if you were here yet, Ed, on treadmills. Like I issued this podcast on treadmills. Sorry, I don't think I said that right.
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
So we had two treadmills here facing each other and we would walk and talk. I love that. Right? Because I think you get way more creative. Like your ideas are better. Your energy is better. You think faster. To me, if you don't have that as part of your daily habit and ritual, you are really missing out on so much. Like energy begets energy.
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
When I don't work out, I'm way more lethargic than if I do, even if I'm super tired.
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
Tell me.
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
That's a really great point. You know, me and my husband for the first, what, like six years of our life being married, or maybe even maybe less, I don't remember, we would go for a walk every night and we'd walk to dinner because we had a destination, right? And it had to be at least two miles. So we would have that time.
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
And I think it was the best habit that I've ever, ever kind of brought into our marriage because that's like the way to connect to people and to connect to your partner, whatever. Otherwise, you just get, you like get lost in the weeds of life, right? Yep.
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
And so anything involving exercise, and it's not because I'm like a fitness fanatic or whatever, but I think because it does teach you such foundational skills in life, like discipline and delayed gratification and all these things. If people can just like get to that in their brain, their lives can just be exponentially better.
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
Have you ever seen these before?
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
You just said the main word, though, confidence. Because I think it breeds confidence. Because you see yourself doing a hard thing over and over again, you will become... you'll have that self-efficacy, like I can do hard things, I am confident, I can finish this thing.
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
And I think that, like I said earlier, is that that's why I think people are very myopic when they think about what exercise really means. And so when I see that as one of your pillars of your wealth of physicality, I think it's like the number one pillar. It's like the number one, if I was gonna do one through five, that's like the first thing because it does open up all these other channels.
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
And then I have to tell you, and this is not an ad. This is actually genuine. I'm a huge cold brew person, and I'm trying to find the best around wherever I go. The best cold brew I've ever had is a place or a company called Grady's. Do you know what this is?
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
That's amazing. I love that story, actually. And I bet you when you were 30 and you were kind of like recalibrating your life and you gained all that weight, it's because you weren't working out. And then I bet you one of the first things you did was start working out again.
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
I can't imagine. By the way, if you're just listening, he looks like an Abercrombie Fitch model. And then he said to me before we started, he didn't always look like this.
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
Oh, you have? Okay, well, do you like them before I make you take it?
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
Okay, I am going to write it down.
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
I'm going to use that. And then the other one is fat jacked.
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
It's on the East Coast. We don't have, we don't have really much access to it on the West Coast here. And I actually ship it from New York. And you can now, and I realize, and I actually even like DM them.
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
I love that. That's so nice. That's so sweet.
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
I love that. Is your wife here in LA with you now or no?
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
I'm like, you have the best, like send me whatever you want and I'll just post whatever because I want everyone to know because it's really strong and that you can tell it's like very, it's not watered down like most other ones. Like I find most places are very watered down and I hate that feeling. So if you, you wrote it down in your little book.
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
And by the way, I didn't even ask you earlier, but what does your sister do now? I'm curious. She said she's such a rock star. I don't even know what she does.
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
That's so true. I think this is what I think. Sorry. No, no, no. This is what I think is interesting about you a little bit, because like I said, like at the beginning, like, I don't know where you came from. I just started seeing like some posts, some like some content. And I'm like, wow, this is really deep. I really like this one. Then I'm going to look at this one. And then
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
And I think like this is your superpower. I think you're really good at like taking some like human feeling and then like creating content around it that resonates with a lot of people. Because all these things that you talk about, like it touches people in a way that's like, yeah, that's so true.
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
Or like, you know, like I think that, you know, that 10-year-old thing, anyone who's a parent can relate to the fact that that happens or when your parent is aging and you only have... X amount of time to see them, especially because my mom, she lives on the East Coast. And like I said, like that, I'm like, wow, you're right. Like she's 80. I probably get to see her four times, maybe if I'm lucky.
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
So when you started to kind of like get out of where you were and then move to the East Coast and Get your life back. Did you make a, did you make a decision like, okay, I'm going to start being a content creator. I'm going to start like building my Instagram.
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
I love it. So now it's there. You're going to try it.
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
Like where did, how did it go from private equity guy living here to then write like, obviously I get why you're writing books cause you're a thinker and all that. But like, is that how it kind of happened with the book?
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
Exactly. And it's also the French vanilla is what I love, but you can get original. Oh, yeah. By the way, this is how many magic wines I've had. I didn't even actually properly introduce you. We have Sahil. Is that how you say your name? Sahil. Sahil. Sahil? Sahil, yeah. Sahil Bloom on the podcast. And he wrote a book, and it's called The Five Types of Wealth.
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
Okay, good, because the ingredients are delicious. Okay, so what we do is we'll get you really focused and locked in, and we just basically do a cheers, and we just then start. Deal. Okay, you ready? Here we go. Cheers. Cheers. Nice to meet you.
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
Bunch of dummies in your life.
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
Thank you.
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
And so, by the way, thank you for being on the podcast.
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
Yes, you're welcome.
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
Thank you.
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
Thank you.
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
I'm so glad. Well, it's funny because I didn't know who you were until very recently. I started seeing your clips of you. And I really love your perspective, how you speak. You're very articulate. You seem like you have a lot of wisdom in a very young person's brain and body. I mean, were you just always very wise growing up?
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
Thank you.
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
Thank you.
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
that like there are people like, I can't look at myself anymore. And they're like, you can't even get an appointment with these people.
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
That's so hilarious. And it's literally like, to me, like, why can't we go back to how it was before? Like, why do we have to stay on Zooms? Because now you could actually meet people in person, which is way more effective anyway, in my opinion, like personal connection, connectivity. Yeah.
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
Can you imagine? People are losing the ability. You know, it's really... Don't get me started. I just actually... Today, I just did a TED Talk on how to build mentally strong kids. And I talk all about this stuff. This is not a podcast about me, but we were talking about it. But...
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
I find like we're losing, like the reason why our mental health, because we're in a huge crisis and our younger generation are like becoming very, very weak because we're unable to do all these basics that you and I did when we were kids. People don't meet, like we're not even like meeting in person to date. We're not like comfortable even like looking at each other.
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
Like when you're in an elevator, the first thing people do are they're staring at their phones. They're so scared to make eye contact.
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
people are losing that ability to know how to even deal with a human being.
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
70%.
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
Not only do I know about it, it was a slide in my PowerPoint, in my TED Talk, because it is unbelievable. And all the things that we used to do, take out 85% of those things. Like you know, bike riding, socializing, dating, flirting, adventuring, all that, take 85% of that stuff out and replace it with a screen and social media. And that's what we have right now.
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
And then we're wondering why people are, have no self-esteem, have, are completely lonely or doing, and we're on like a decline every single day. Yeah.
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
That's exactly what I'm talking about.
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
So what is like... I'm like very passionate about all of this because I think I have kids too. And like, I'm really unhappy with where our, the trajectory of life is going just with people. Like even people are single for like, people are not getting married. People are not in relationships. That's what I'm saying.
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
The loneliness, the true loneliness is the real, to me, that's the real pandemic in life, right? Because people are losing these abilities to even like, even know what it means. So with all that being said, what do you tell people? I mean, obviously it resonates with you. What can you do? Because you're lucky, right? You're in a relationship with someone that were pre all this stuff.
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
What are your friends doing?
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
And it's also like, I think, I always think to myself, like, do you think they, you don't know what you don't know, right? So if you weren't born in our generation, if you were born like after 1995 or 2000, whatever, after 2000, like if you don't know that, how do you know what you're missing? You don't. So then you're now really stuck.
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
Because it's easy for me to say when I already, I knew what it was like when I had to like, you know, go out there to a party and like try to like meet a boy or like, you know, get in fights with this person because, you know, I didn't, they, you know, they didn't like my shirt or my sweater or whatever girl fight, whatever the nonsense is or like sneak out of my house to go to a party, whatever it is.
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
It doesn't happen anymore. We don't have that same thing. They don't have it anymore. Yeah. So if you don't know what you don't know, what are you supposed to do?
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
And have meaning. Okay, so let's get back to the book. So let's talk about the five.
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
Good, good, good. I mean, I'm just trying to think of things I missed. The social part, the mental part. Let's talk about the mental part and the financial. Well, the financial part is pretty much everything. Yeah, but I want to know, like, I want some, like, key things that people, actionable items. We have a few we said.
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
That people can, like, really do tomorrow. Besides fitness stuff, we got that covered. Besides, what other ones did we really cover?
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
You got to day three?
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
Right. Like, cause like I saw you went to Stanford, right? You went, you got, you got like your, was it like a BA, an MA? I saw like, what was it?
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
I'm going to try that. Okay, I like that one. Give me another one.
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
And what was your master's in?
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
Oh, okay.
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
So like you're, you obviously are bright, very bright. And then you're also an athlete. And then, well, wait, did you, I didn't know Stanford even had a baseball team. Were there other?
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
Yeah, I love that. I say the same. I say, like, people could be bored. It won't kill them to be bored for a little bit.
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
That's what I'm saying. Like, God forbid that you have nothing to do for 30 seconds.
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
I mean, I don't know how people even survived.
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
I mean, it's unbelievable. Think about how gross and dirty those phones are. Just imagine. It's like so disgusting. I'll never touch someone's phone because I know where it is and I don't want to have anything to do with it. That's for sure.
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
Oh, I think about the most crazy things all the time. Like I'll try everything in my power not to touch someone's phone because it's like that phone has been in places that like is so dirty. There's probably so much like fecal matter on people's phones.
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
It's true because you know what people do? They put their phone behind their toilet seat or toilet cup, the back of the toilet, and then they flush the toilet and the water gets on the phone. All the crazy shit that I think of, honestly. It's so crazy. But anyway, I'm digressing.
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
Yeah. That's good.
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
Yeah, exactly. That's a great clip, actually. Okay, so besides the fact that the shallow water body is my favorite piece of clip, the favorite thing that you've shared so far. Yeah, that's good. Is there anything else that we didn't talk about? Oh, I want to know your routine. I want to know your morning routine, your evening routine, and your habits. I mean, hello.
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
4.15 in the morning?
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
So you were doing it way before it was popular.
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
Totally. Why do you think I wear this?
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
And I think you go from cold plunge. And then what do you do?
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
Oh, so that's your big morning routine. I thought you were going to say exercise.
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
Okay. I thought that we're going to go into a whole like four hour thing here.
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
Interesting. So you don't, okay, so why don't you do it like right after the cold plunge or after your workout, then do the cold plunge?
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
I don't even think that we even knew that was part of the curriculum. Like there was even a sport called baseball in Canada. It was just not something that people even thought of. Like Even, like, when I moved here, baseball and basketball, like, all these other – soccer. Like, we don't do those things back there.
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
And by the way, I don't get this whole nonsense. If you're a vegan, you have to shame people who eat and vice versa. Stop with all this stuff. This whole like nonsense that God forbid that you have an opinion that someone else doesn't like.
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
I can't stand it.
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
The more polarizing you are or the more of like you say something that's very like absolute, that's how you get your likes.
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
How much do you run a day?
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
Do you do weights and cardio same day? Do you do splits?
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
Oh, me too. Okay, so are you doing, that's why.
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
But you're also doing the running, I guess, like you were saying earlier, we were both saying, for your brain.
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
But I think that because I grew up not thinking about it – funnily enough, though, I'm friends with a lot of baseball players, which is very interesting. But, you know – but anyway, the point is, like, that's very interesting, Stanford, baseball. I want to know about, like, how you even kind of evolved into this career path.
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
You know what I feel like? Honestly, I know you haven't because you probably had no clue who I was, but I feel like everything you're saying is literally videos that I've done or things that I've written that you're just regurgitating. I say that all the time. It's like the boring shit gets you. It's that stuff that makes you thrive and become the most successful version of yourself.
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
People don't want to hear it. There's no magic pill or magic anything. I eat the same thing every day. I do my running. It sounds so boring and probably you don't want to hang out with me, but it gets the job done and I get from A to B to Z. People don't want to know it.
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
When I travel, I get a little bit of anxiety. I'm like, it's horrible.
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
Literally, I like wrote something today about like adaptability. I think like adaptability is like a superpower. And I'm not good at it. Like I have to learn to be less rigid and more adaptive to be successful, more successful or whatever you want to call it. Because the people I know who are able to adapt to their environment really fast and
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
and regulate themselves and not be so like nervous and scared with anger. Like I'm like going to Fiji for crying out loud next week. And I'm like nervous as shit. I'm like, how am I going to go to Fiji? I'm going to, what am I going to eat? What am I going to do? How am I going to work out? Like most people would be like, wow. That's amazing. You're going to Fiji.
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
And I'm like, that's the kind of neuroses that I have.
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
You are now like, what would you call yourself? I know you're an author, right? You're a writer.
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
I know. Well, what did you eat for breakfast today at your hotel?
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
That place, I stayed there in Miami just recently. It was like basically like it was offensive how expensive it was.
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
What did you have?
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
$96.
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
Are you sure you weren't?
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
It's so sneaky. I'm offended by it. But do you know what error one is, by the way?
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
to me like it's the most absurd people are standing in line there like as if they're giving shit away yeah you also feel ugly automatically walking in there because everyone's a model you're like walking around you're like what the hell oh actually not anymore you know what they do now yeah they're getting they're taking tour buses from like ohio and minneapolis they're dropping off people by the droves by like 300 people to look at like it's like a zoo it's like a zoo in there
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
They bring them off the bus, and they're all with their binoculars and their things taking pictures.
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
And they're all in line for the $30 Bieber smoothie. Oh, yeah, the Hailey Bieber strawberry glaze. Yeah, the Hailey Bieber smoothie, which, by the way, has like 1,000 calories.
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
How do they justify it? It's what I don't understand.
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
Everyone goes there. People go there.
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
They're so rich, the people who started Erewhon. They have, like, a $40 million house, like, in Malibu.
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
Like, and they're building up more of these places. I don't, like, you know, I don't know how people can afford this shit, though.
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
Like, people are buying this stuff. I mean, I could do a whole podcast on just Erewhon, honestly. I should just stop while I'm ahead. But, like, it's crazy.
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
Exactly. You know, we should, I actually should do it because I have so many stories about this place.
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
I mean, I went there once. Okay, that's just one last story about this place. I went and I had to get strawberries. Okay, strawberries. At Ralph's, there's another grocery store, they're $4.99. At Whole Foods, maybe like $8.99. Maybe even at Gelson's, another upscale store, maybe $9.99. Okay, which is very expensive. I walked into Air One. I kid you not, $29.99. Okay. $29.99.
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
I went up to the person. I'm like, is this wrong? I think you marked it wrong. They're like, no, it's not wrong. I'm like, $30?
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
Can you believe that? And like an asshole, I'm like fighting with this guy. What is he going to do? People are buying them like it's gold.
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
Best strawberries. They're from a place called Dave's Farm or I don't know, some other wacky farm. Who knows? But welcome to LA is all I have to say. Well, it's been a pleasure meeting you.
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
Exactly. If you want a nice expensive breakfast day at the one hotel, don't go to Erewhon if you don't want to get raped. If you need financial wealth, don't go to Erewhon.
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
Maybe like six types of wealth.
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
Do not shop at Erewhon.
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
Well, it's been a pleasure having you on the podcast.
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
I know. If I would have known, like if you were, we should have worked out together.
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
I would love to.
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
Now, how do people could buy the book is called Five Types of Wealth. Where else can people find you if they don't know who you are yet?
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
Thank you so much for being here.
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
But if you tried, would you get A's?
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
So what we do on this show when we first start is we do a magic mind shot. How did you know? I saw you holding it.
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
That's such a good way of putting it. I mean, it's funny. My friend Jesse Itzler has this whole thing with time, right? Like, his whole... He has, like, even made this big-ass calendar situation where... I went to Mori, yeah. Right, you know, to kind of... And I think something that you did on social media was how I kind of, like, clicked into you. It was something about time and energy and...
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
And they're very different things. And actually, now that I think about it, you know what actually I did see was that you were talking about if you have a kid, the first 10 years of the life. Well, can you share that? Because I think that was what got me dialed into you. And then you go into all this time.
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
You know what? That's funny because that happens a lot because I actually genuinely love them. And I take it before I work out. And then I take it with these podcasts. And then I'm up to like four or five. And they're like, you know, maybe you shouldn't take more than two or maybe max like three. And then I'm like just like I'm like basically banging them back like it's like water.
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
It's so true. That word later might as well be crossed out and just put never because that is 100% true. I think people get more comfortable with thinking that they could possibly do it versus just admitting that it won't happen. So I guess it circles back to, okay, you're 30 years old. You heard this thing. You realize you have 15 more times to maybe see your parents. You move back.
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Episode 421: Sahil Bloom: How Boring and Basic Routines Can Build 5 Types of True Wealth
You move back. How, what else did it do? Like, how did you then go from your life as, I think you were in private equity, yeah? So you went from being a private equity guy, being overweight and, you know, whatever, you're having a not that great of a relationship and all the other things were kind of like taking a turn. What did you do to kind of become who you are today?
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Episode 455: Dr. Vishal Patel: Why Your Feet Control Your Longevity and Most Wellness Tech Is Wrong
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Episode 455: Dr. Vishal Patel: Why Your Feet Control Your Longevity and Most Wellness Tech Is Wrong
If I see something that's captivating, I'm like, oh, I'll buy it. And then I have to stop myself and realize, oh, maybe that's not the best thing. Can you talk about some of the things that you've seen that you guys have steered away from that why you said it's important to have a medical doctor around?
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Episode 455: Dr. Vishal Patel: Why Your Feet Control Your Longevity and Most Wellness Tech Is Wrong
Whenever you think is the most harming that people should be aware of or things that just aren't just silly, that don't work, that you've kind of encountered.
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Episode 455: Dr. Vishal Patel: Why Your Feet Control Your Longevity and Most Wellness Tech Is Wrong
Do you know what I find interesting? Peptides is a big fad right now, right? Like things kind of, that's a big one. And so what I find very interesting is a lot of the doctors that I speak to offline who are not involved in social media, they don't even, they're not on there, they don't care, you know, have a, agree with you.
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Episode 455: Dr. Vishal Patel: Why Your Feet Control Your Longevity and Most Wellness Tech Is Wrong
They think that the IVs, you just basically pee out whatever you're getting because you're getting such an abundant amount. And so it's basically just a money grab, you know, like the three, $400 and you're going to, it's completely not worth it. And the peptides, the problem with the peptides, and that's why they've been disconnected. They're not, there's like laws against a lot of them.
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Episode 455: Dr. Vishal Patel: Why Your Feet Control Your Longevity and Most Wellness Tech Is Wrong
Let's talk about how would you describe what it is, and then let's get into your background and what your involvement is.
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Episode 455: Dr. Vishal Patel: Why Your Feet Control Your Longevity and Most Wellness Tech Is Wrong
People think it's because the farmer is trying to control it, but people, and maybe that's true. I'm not saying it is or not, but you know, a concern is you do, there is not enough fact research to know what the outcomes are because they haven't been around long enough.
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Episode 455: Dr. Vishal Patel: Why Your Feet Control Your Longevity and Most Wellness Tech Is Wrong
One thing I found very interesting when I was there, I had this back and forth with one of your employees because I went to use the sauna, the infrared sauna, and it was cold in there. I'm telling you, it was cold in there, Michelle. Okay. It was literally, I'm like, can we put it on? And they're like, oh, it's the highest that we can put it. And I'm like, the highest?
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Episode 455: Dr. Vishal Patel: Why Your Feet Control Your Longevity and Most Wellness Tech Is Wrong
I'm like, literally, I need to go get a towel and wrap it around me. It was cold. She said 140 was the highest. I was like, first of all, I have the same sauna at home. And my problem with the sauna that I have is that it's too cold. It goes up to 170, and it takes a long time to go up to 170. And it still doesn't get me hot enough.
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Episode 455: Dr. Vishal Patel: Why Your Feet Control Your Longevity and Most Wellness Tech Is Wrong
And she's like, oh, all the research proves that your body is from the inside out, poor temperature, all these things. and you don't have to sweat. Like I pushed back on that a little bit. I pushed back on that one.
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Episode 455: Dr. Vishal Patel: Why Your Feet Control Your Longevity and Most Wellness Tech Is Wrong
It was very adamant. And then the next time someone else said also that they could only put it up to a certain temperature
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Episode 455: Dr. Vishal Patel: Why Your Feet Control Your Longevity and Most Wellness Tech Is Wrong
Right. Cause it's important.
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Episode 455: Dr. Vishal Patel: Why Your Feet Control Your Longevity and Most Wellness Tech Is Wrong
That's what I say. Like, that's why right now the push is actually to get away from the ones with the red light and for red ones and to get the ones that are wood burning. They go way hotter. They go to like 220 some of them. You can die in one of those. But most of the research I've seen is really based around the science behind the wood burning ones from Finland. That's exactly right. Right.
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Episode 455: Dr. Vishal Patel: Why Your Feet Control Your Longevity and Most Wellness Tech Is Wrong
So the ones with the, the, the red infrared, like there is a lot of people are like, this is not getting me hot enough. I got to sit in here for 45 minutes to even like get it.
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Episode 455: Dr. Vishal Patel: Why Your Feet Control Your Longevity and Most Wellness Tech Is Wrong
Not as efficient. Right. I had to just ask about that. Cause I, I swear that I was like, I'm not wrong on this one.
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Episode 455: Dr. Vishal Patel: Why Your Feet Control Your Longevity and Most Wellness Tech Is Wrong
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Episode 455: Dr. Vishal Patel: Why Your Feet Control Your Longevity and Most Wellness Tech Is Wrong
Trust me, you'll be happy you did. Can you give me some other things that you've, that data, some things, science-backed database stuff that you've kind of, you know about that is kind of integrated into the program? Or by the way, not, it's just, you know, someone like you who's very data-related.
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Episode 455: Dr. Vishal Patel: Why Your Feet Control Your Longevity and Most Wellness Tech Is Wrong
I wrote that down because I am fascinated by its thermography. You've said that that's something that you guys are doing. What is it? Can you explain what it is?
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Episode 455: Dr. Vishal Patel: Why Your Feet Control Your Longevity and Most Wellness Tech Is Wrong
Well, I think it's always good to have someone who points things out like that, because even like, listen, Tiger Woods had a coach, right? Michael Jordan had a coach. Like, you know, we tend to do what we are good at, right? I mean, I'm like very, I dominate on the things I'm good at and the things I'm not so good at. I just don't do them.
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Episode 455: Dr. Vishal Patel: Why Your Feet Control Your Longevity and Most Wellness Tech Is Wrong
Like, you know, I like to do squats, so I'll do squats, but I hate to do, you know, planks. So I'm not going to do it. So I mean, right? Like people naturally are going to do what they're good at, what they like. And that's how we get really bad imbalances, right? Yeah. And so for that reason, I think it's really important.
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Episode 455: Dr. Vishal Patel: Why Your Feet Control Your Longevity and Most Wellness Tech Is Wrong
It is something special. Yeah. So like I went to the one like on, in Lanai, in, in Hawaii and there's, how many locations do you guys have? Three now?
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Episode 455: Dr. Vishal Patel: Why Your Feet Control Your Longevity and Most Wellness Tech Is Wrong
But, you know, what I wanted to ask you again, I want to push back a little bit because of something else, data. And I do this with myself too, because I've done all of it, right? I've done the whoops, I've done the aura rings. If you look at my office or my house, it looks like a Costco with all the boxes all the way up there. everything you can possibly imagine, every gadget and nook and cranny.
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Episode 455: Dr. Vishal Patel: Why Your Feet Control Your Longevity and Most Wellness Tech Is Wrong
And what I noticed was the more I was basically tracking, the more stressed I got. And I think if you were a data person, you can look at the data and notice that people become obsessed over their numbers. Like, you know, you're tracking your sleep and then you're gonna sleep terribly because you're constantly looking to see, did you sleep okay? Versus just sleeping, right?
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Episode 455: Dr. Vishal Patel: Why Your Feet Control Your Longevity and Most Wellness Tech Is Wrong
Do you believe that there is a point where too much knowledge or too much, you know, information getting becomes actually a detriment versus a positive?
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Episode 455: Dr. Vishal Patel: Why Your Feet Control Your Longevity and Most Wellness Tech Is Wrong
So, yeah, because the one I went to was with the Four Seasons. And let me just kind of like explain and break it down a bit, because I've been given what I do for my background, for my job, for whatever. I've been to like a plethora of different wellness facilities. I've tried every program, retreat. Number one, what I found to be very unique, it is very personalized.
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Episode 455: Dr. Vishal Patel: Why Your Feet Control Your Longevity and Most Wellness Tech Is Wrong
Yeah, I think that you can become obsessed with it, but I do believe it's good for some type of accountability at the beginning and knowledge base. Like I think, but like everything, right? Like eventually you're gonna take, you know, kind of just use your own gut because it becomes, it actually becomes a more of a, in my opinion, a more of a detriment.
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Episode 455: Dr. Vishal Patel: Why Your Feet Control Your Longevity and Most Wellness Tech Is Wrong
Unless you're somebody who is like a professional athlete and an Olympian that have to meet certain marks, for like you hit certain things to, you know, win the gold, you know, like you got, you got to track things for these, but for the everyday, I think it's become, it's getting out of hand. Like, you know, now everyone's walking around with a glucose monitor. Like, right.
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Like, are you a diabetic? Like this is becoming an absurd thing. Like most people should not be wearing one.
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Episode 455: Dr. Vishal Patel: Why Your Feet Control Your Longevity and Most Wellness Tech Is Wrong
Yeah. One other question I have for you is, have you seen what's your take on plasma, people who are taking plasma? It's like kind of like, it's an IV course to get the plasma and it takes out all the toxins, heavy metals out of your body. A lot of my friends are doing it and they're walking away with like these like 10 pound bags of their own plasma. That's Do you know what I'm talking about?
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Episode 455: Dr. Vishal Patel: Why Your Feet Control Your Longevity and Most Wellness Tech Is Wrong
In the fridge?
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What are they going to do with it?
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Is it dangerous?
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Episode 455: Dr. Vishal Patel: Why Your Feet Control Your Longevity and Most Wellness Tech Is Wrong
That's the first thing I would say. And the attention to detail with what you can have. I think I did the rest of relaxation program and Jim, I think his name was Jim, who really kind of like really did a lot of like intake on like my background, what I'm going through in life. And then the program is very personalized for me.
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Episode 455: Dr. Vishal Patel: Why Your Feet Control Your Longevity and Most Wellness Tech Is Wrong
Yeah, I understand that. I know you're going to catch a flight, so I'm going to let you go. Okay. Thank you, Dr. Michel, because this was very important. I appreciate your time. And I apologize again for the snafu of technology prior. So I hope you forgive me for that.
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Episode 455: Dr. Vishal Patel: Why Your Feet Control Your Longevity and Most Wellness Tech Is Wrong
Oh, it was amazing. And I recommend it to anybody and everybody because it was one of the nicest experiences in the wellness facility that I've been to. I was going to say, are they all the same, by the way? Besides the fact that you partner with different hotels for whatever reason, is the programming the same everywhere? Correct.
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Episode 455: Dr. Vishal Patel: Why Your Feet Control Your Longevity and Most Wellness Tech Is Wrong
Oh my God. I would love to go there. Love, love, love, love, love. Check out Sensei. Even go on their website and check it out, all their different offerings. It is a really great experience if you're into health, wellness, longevity, and all the things health. So thank you again for being with me today.
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Episode 455: Dr. Vishal Patel: Why Your Feet Control Your Longevity and Most Wellness Tech Is Wrong
You also have another program that I didn't do that's very much about data and metrics.
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the optimal wellbeing program.
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Episode 455: Dr. Vishal Patel: Why Your Feet Control Your Longevity and Most Wellness Tech Is Wrong
What I found though, with the one I was at, the one thing I found was interesting was, you know, a lot of these programs, the food is very precise, like the, you know, the caloric intake you're taking, they really kind of try to like, they try to really kind of, I guess, kind of like be involved in like your overall, like what you're taking in nutrition wise while you're there.
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Episode 455: Dr. Vishal Patel: Why Your Feet Control Your Longevity and Most Wellness Tech Is Wrong
And I personally use their red light therapy to help reduce inflammations in places in my body where, honestly, I have pain. You can use it on a sore back, stomach cramps, shoulder, ankle. Red light therapy is my go-to. Plus, it also has amazing anti-aging benefits, including reducing signs of fine lines and wrinkles on your face, which I also use it for.
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Episode 455: Dr. Vishal Patel: Why Your Feet Control Your Longevity and Most Wellness Tech Is Wrong
Yeah, but there's a really property in there, right?
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Episode 455: Dr. Vishal Patel: Why Your Feet Control Your Longevity and Most Wellness Tech Is Wrong
There was very little. Yeah, I found that to be like kind of like the antithesis that what a wellness program is about. Can you explain why you guys are not?
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Episode 455: Dr. Vishal Patel: Why Your Feet Control Your Longevity and Most Wellness Tech Is Wrong
Yeah, because I found that to be an interesting takeaway.
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Episode 455: Dr. Vishal Patel: Why Your Feet Control Your Longevity and Most Wellness Tech Is Wrong
Yeah, like I found a lot of things that I was questioning, there was scientific backing of why it is the way it is, right? The food thing really threw me for a loop because to me, a big piece of wellness and health is all it is about the the nourishing part, right? That the food. Also, I love to eat.
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Episode 455: Dr. Vishal Patel: Why Your Feet Control Your Longevity and Most Wellness Tech Is Wrong
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Episode 455: Dr. Vishal Patel: Why Your Feet Control Your Longevity and Most Wellness Tech Is Wrong
Yeah, I mean, can you talk about more of the science behind that? Because overall in the program, just to kind of give some differentiation for people why it is different, because like you said, well, like besides the fact that they're in these beautiful places and the programming is spectacular from, of course, you have the sound baths, you have the yoga, you have all the meditation.
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Episode 455: Dr. Vishal Patel: Why Your Feet Control Your Longevity and Most Wellness Tech Is Wrong
Even the teacher, I had this other teacher there, which again, kind of like threw me for a loop because I thought I had like this one-on-one with him to do like that. I thought like a, like a personal training session. Right. But it was a very unique one because it wasn't what I was expecting. I ended up taking off my shoes.
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Episode 455: Dr. Vishal Patel: Why Your Feet Control Your Longevity and Most Wellness Tech Is Wrong
He was looking at my feet and he gave me literally like a, like, like a four-year degree and how my feet are the, is basically where all the power comes in. And while my strength comes in, if my feet are not strong, then basically my whole body will fall apart. Like my hips, my knees, my joints.
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Episode 455: Dr. Vishal Patel: Why Your Feet Control Your Longevity and Most Wellness Tech Is Wrong
Eduardo. But I'll tell you something, heat is not wrong because my feet are weak. They're flat. They aren't, not to give people too much information, but like my arches have fallen, all the things because I work out so hard.
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Episode 455: Dr. Vishal Patel: Why Your Feet Control Your Longevity and Most Wellness Tech Is Wrong
But your body breaks down so much quicker if your feet are not properly, if they're not properly worked out, literally. Yeah. And for longevity, that's like such, that's so terrible, right? Because having to stay younger longer is having these strong feet, which is one of these things where I think that people are amiss. They don't realize that. They think they don't, they just go, go, go.
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Episode 455: Dr. Vishal Patel: Why Your Feet Control Your Longevity and Most Wellness Tech Is Wrong
And then when their hip falls or their knees are, they don't go to the source of the problem, which is always the feet.
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Episode 455: Dr. Vishal Patel: Why Your Feet Control Your Longevity and Most Wellness Tech Is Wrong
Results.
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Episode 455: Dr. Vishal Patel: Why Your Feet Control Your Longevity and Most Wellness Tech Is Wrong
Totally. Can you tell us a little bit about your background, how you got involved? Because you said you studied aromatic medicine. You're obviously a physician. Can you just explain to us what your expertise is and the relationship?
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Episode 455: Dr. Vishal Patel: Why Your Feet Control Your Longevity and Most Wellness Tech Is Wrong
So I'm joined today by Dr. Vishal Patel, who is the chief science and innovative officer at a place called, it's the most beautiful place I've ever been, Sensei. Sensei is basically, I want you to kind of walk us through it because I had a beautiful experience. It is a wellness facility that is beyond anything I've ever been to because of the care and the quality and just overall the programming.
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Episode 455: Dr. Vishal Patel: Why Your Feet Control Your Longevity and Most Wellness Tech Is Wrong
So could you talk about that a little bit, like in terms of a lot of the things that don't have any research or background that you guys, you think are kind of myths or because the wellness business has become, do you, have you heard this? I've heard this. I just heard this yesterday that the wellness business has actually become more profitable than big pharma now. Supplement companies. Oh, yeah.
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Episode 455: Dr. Vishal Patel: Why Your Feet Control Your Longevity and Most Wellness Tech Is Wrong
All of this. And with social media as well, there's a lot of information, misinformation, and people glom onto it because they're looking for this magic bullet. They want to believe if I take this, that I'm going to get that result. And I'm very, like, I'm a person that I try to uncover this and talk about it as much as possible. Because we can... all fall prey to this. I do all the time.
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Episode 403: Cathy Heller: Why Women Should Embrace Wealth and Live in Possibility, not Probability
Then you ended up, then she, you, she, I'm going to say, talk to you. Cause that's, you're here, you know, figuring out like, okay, now what? Like I have all this like creative talent and And you figured out that you should maybe maybe the record labels don't want you. By the way, did you ever figure out why they why they dropped you?
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Episode 403: Cathy Heller: Why Women Should Embrace Wealth and Live in Possibility, not Probability
Kathy is, wait, what? Okay. I don't even know where to begin. So Kathy is very talented and it's true that where you've come from where you were is extraordinary. Same. Thank you. This girl, when you say habits and hustle, the word hustle personified, the
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Don't tell me. Don't tell me.
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Episode 403: Cathy Heller: Why Women Should Embrace Wealth and Live in Possibility, not Probability
Hold on. Because she was a Colby Calais. I always say you're like a Colby Calais, okay? It's like the singer-songwriter. Vanessa Carlton's a great example, actually, too. Yeah. OK, so then that we were kind of like getting out of that genre. All right. So then you're like, OK, what the hell am I going to do now?
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Episode 403: Cathy Heller: Why Women Should Embrace Wealth and Live in Possibility, not Probability
And then you saw something or heard something and you figure out that like, OK, just because I can't do that, I'm going to then license my music to TV shows and to companies. So you started writing music for McDonald's, I remember. Yeah. Grey's Anatomy. Yeah.
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Episode 403: Cathy Heller: Why Women Should Embrace Wealth and Live in Possibility, not Probability
All of it.
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And you are now, at now she went from being a starving artist, making no money to now making money.
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Episode 403: Cathy Heller: Why Women Should Embrace Wealth and Live in Possibility, not Probability
How did you get from, okay, my career and my life is over to then finding that opportunity. And then by the way, we're not done yet. This is just part one. And then making a business from that, because this girl, like I said, just wait. So how did you do that?
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Episode 403: Cathy Heller: Why Women Should Embrace Wealth and Live in Possibility, not Probability
funny thing is if you know Kathy and her and her work and what she does she's all about like like I said like sugar and sweet and manifestation and abundance her new book of course is called Abundant Ever After of course she's that girl who typically you know I I'm not into that like that like yeah I know like be present and all that kind of thing but
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Like, but wait a second. You forgot a big part of it, which I love. The first part is when you did connect with people, you offered, you said to them, I want your Starbucks.
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Episode 403: Cathy Heller: Why Women Should Embrace Wealth and Live in Possibility, not Probability
You do it like that, but inside you are the most resourceful. So resourceful. Such a driven, ambitious soul. And what you've done and how you've kind of evolved and elevated over the last God knows how many years I've known you is incredible. Literally astounding.
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Episode 403: Cathy Heller: Why Women Should Embrace Wealth and Live in Possibility, not Probability
How did they even know? Like, that's because this is the thing, right? Like, because I think people get stuck. They also get they stop in the start, right? Because where if you don't have all these things, you don't have the Instagram, you don't have that. You don't know people, right? I know. How do you get you and I use this word?
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Episode 403: Cathy Heller: Why Women Should Embrace Wealth and Live in Possibility, not Probability
See, exactly. And so what I think that like people, people now are are really kind of creating this. There's like a whole movement like, oh, the word hustles is a bad word.
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Episode 403: Cathy Heller: Why Women Should Embrace Wealth and Live in Possibility, not Probability
Show up.
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100%.
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I don't.
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Episode 403: Cathy Heller: Why Women Should Embrace Wealth and Live in Possibility, not Probability
You know, it's so funny that you say that because that's the one question people, especially when I wrote my book, And when I was doing the whole circuit, like the podcast and all that, always people would say to me, like, you know, like, well, how are you okay with rejection or failure, failure, failure?
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Episode 403: Cathy Heller: Why Women Should Embrace Wealth and Live in Possibility, not Probability
I'm like, um, I did it so much and I failed so many times that like I became desensitized and immune to the feeling or it didn't even like make a difference. Don't even notice.
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Episode 403: Cathy Heller: Why Women Should Embrace Wealth and Live in Possibility, not Probability
I wonder why that is. Why are we okay with that and other people are not? That's a good question. What is the reason behind it? Because the truth is, people are like, she doesn't give a shit. I feel like I don't. I don't either.
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Episode 403: Cathy Heller: Why Women Should Embrace Wealth and Live in Possibility, not Probability
Wait, so he was telling you about his double life? Gross. Did you tell your mom?
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Episode 403: Cathy Heller: Why Women Should Embrace Wealth and Live in Possibility, not Probability
See, it's what I find so interesting why you say the story is it can go either way, right? Yeah. You did like a balls to the wall type of approach. Let's go. Right. And you didn't let it penetrate to the point where you became debilitated. No. And you didn't like sit and ruminate on trauma. And I think this is the big problem we have in today's culture. By the way, you're right.
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Episode 403: Cathy Heller: Why Women Should Embrace Wealth and Live in Possibility, not Probability
I seriously agree with you.
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No, I don't know who she is.
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Episode 403: Cathy Heller: Why Women Should Embrace Wealth and Live in Possibility, not Probability
Because that's what my point that I wanted to make was, and like I said, I'm a big believer. That's why you and I get along very well, is not to sit and ruminate and talk about your problems day in and day out. People are using therapy now, and I'm going to probably get a ton of shit for saying this, but
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Episode 403: Cathy Heller: Why Women Should Embrace Wealth and Live in Possibility, not Probability
as like a crutch, it becomes like their new hobby is just to go to therapy over and over again to talk about the same problem they had many years ago when it's been proven and shown that that rumination is actually a major reason for all this mental health decline. And so why is it though that some people are doing it that way while other ones are like you?
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Episode 403: Cathy Heller: Why Women Should Embrace Wealth and Live in Possibility, not Probability
Like, because you have a sister, obviously, who's, is she older or younger?
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Older. Did she take the same approach as you?
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Yeah.
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Episode 403: Cathy Heller: Why Women Should Embrace Wealth and Live in Possibility, not Probability
Wow. I know. She's just a rock star. That's amazing. I like that whole idea of the pencil bit. That's really smart. You are such a good orator. So are you. No, no, no. You are really. No, no, no. You are.
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Episode 403: Cathy Heller: Why Women Should Embrace Wealth and Live in Possibility, not Probability
Let's take a quick break from this episode to discuss a very important habit we can all improve on. Do you know that three out of four homes in America have harmful contaminants in their tap water? As someone like me who is obsessed with building better healthy habits, this statistic stopped me in my tracks. I mean, our bodies are 60% water. Shouldn't we care about what's in it?
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Episode 403: Cathy Heller: Why Women Should Embrace Wealth and Live in Possibility, not Probability
That's why I'm really excited to tell you guys about AquaTrue. It has been a game changer in my journey towards better health. Here's what makes it special. Their purifiers use a four-stage reverse osmosis process that removes 15 times more contaminants than regular pitcher filters. And we're talking about that like scary stuff, like PFAs, that...
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Episode 403: Cathy Heller: Why Women Should Embrace Wealth and Live in Possibility, not Probability
Forever Chemicals founded almost 45% of US tap water. And the one thing I actually love about AquaTrue is that it's not complicated to install. You just plug it in and you're good to go. And they last between six months to two years. And one set of filters makes an equivalent of 4,500 bottles of water. So that's like less than 3% per bottle. It is really amazing.
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Episode 403: Cathy Heller: Why Women Should Embrace Wealth and Live in Possibility, not Probability
So if you're ready to upgrade your water, I hope you are, do it now because AquaTrue comes with a 30-day money-back guarantee and even makes a great gift. Today, you guys can receive 20% off any AquaTrue purifier. Just go to AquaTrue.com, that's A-Q-U-A-T-R-U.com and enter code HUSTLE at checkout. That's 20% off any AquaTrue water purifier when you go to AquaTrue.com and use the promo code HUSTLE.
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Episode 403: Cathy Heller: Why Women Should Embrace Wealth and Live in Possibility, not Probability
I've got so many questions for you, but okay. When I was reading through your book, although I just got the hard copy, but I was reading the PDF. When I was going through it, I saw something that I thought was very true. You were talking about when you ask people, because now Kathy also has these, she does like, what do you call these groups, these courses, these masterminds?
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Episode 403: Cathy Heller: Why Women Should Embrace Wealth and Live in Possibility, not Probability
And she's making like millions of dollars. Yeah. It's really a great, it's fun. You got to teach me how to make a course, to do a course. I swear. I think I'm yesterday. Okay. You should be doing that. I didn't, I haven't, I don't, I don't. Oh my God.
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Episode 403: Cathy Heller: Why Women Should Embrace Wealth and Live in Possibility, not Probability
The first was a podcast and now it's the courses. But what you said was so interesting. I think this is very true because you're like when you say to people when they start or when you do your work with all these women. Mostly women, yeah. Mostly women. I would say it's 100% women. Mostly women. It's like 99.99% women. And then one guy. Yeah. Yeah.
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Episode 403: Cathy Heller: Why Women Should Embrace Wealth and Live in Possibility, not Probability
That if you could have anything or what would you do? Like they'll say, oh, they want a better body or they want this or that. But the idea of them making a ton of money never even occurs to them.
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Episode 403: Cathy Heller: Why Women Should Embrace Wealth and Live in Possibility, not Probability
Really? Are you sure about that?
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Episode 403: Cathy Heller: Why Women Should Embrace Wealth and Live in Possibility, not Probability
Good, because I was going to say, I love that because the first question I was actually going to ask you is when I was looking at the bio that I guess your team sent me, it says here, okay, Kathy is a renowned teacher, podcaster, and author. She hosts one of the top spiritual podcasts.
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Episode 403: Cathy Heller: Why Women Should Embrace Wealth and Live in Possibility, not Probability
Well, I think I'll say it in a simpler way, which is more that whatever it is, whoever you are, it will be just exacerbated. If you're a dick before you'll be even a bigger dick. That's exactly what I'm saying. If you were a nice person, you'll be even a nice, you know, you'll be even more nice. It's the same thing.
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Episode 403: Cathy Heller: Why Women Should Embrace Wealth and Live in Possibility, not Probability
Well, it's also been very much about, especially, especially I think it's kind of come full circle now where we have like an era where like women could like, you know, they could be, they could be bosses, girl boss, all these, you know, silly names. And now it's actually like, there's a big movement with masculinity versus femininity with social media that like,
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Episode 403: Cathy Heller: Why Women Should Embrace Wealth and Live in Possibility, not Probability
If you're somebody who wants to be a quote unquote boss as a woman, then it's a very masculine energy and it becomes, this becomes the thing, right?
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It doesn't have to be.
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Episode 403: Cathy Heller: Why Women Should Embrace Wealth and Live in Possibility, not Probability
which is one reason why I would never have her on if it wasn't for you, Abundant Ever After, which is the name of the book, which has been downloaded 45 million times. I'm talking like that's insanity. And it says here, she's a practitioner of the law of reception and has a deep understanding of the universal principles of manifestation. I've never heard of the word law of reception before.
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Episode 403: Cathy Heller: Why Women Should Embrace Wealth and Live in Possibility, not Probability
It goes back to resource. I think also the quote, you also love it. Our greatest resource is our resourcefulness. And it's 100% true.
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Episode 403: Cathy Heller: Why Women Should Embrace Wealth and Live in Possibility, not Probability
Well, no, this is a big pillar point for me, right? This whole I'm not enough thing. Because I think we always over-index what someone else is. Like, oh, they're there because they're so great and phenomenal and talented and skilled. And we under-index what we can do.
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Episode 403: Cathy Heller: Why Women Should Embrace Wealth and Live in Possibility, not Probability
that's just human nature right when the truth is that and I and by the way and I can say this because I meet everybody like you and then you meet these people who are so extraordinary and wonderful and you're like oh they must be this this and the other and you meet them you're like they're not they're not what that that they're not that great the only difference between that person and the other person is that they like believed in themselves just a little bit more and like kept on going and kept on trying I mean I will not name names because it would be so disgusting although it'd be fun
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Episode 403: Cathy Heller: Why Women Should Embrace Wealth and Live in Possibility, not Probability
Totally.
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Episode 403: Cathy Heller: Why Women Should Embrace Wealth and Live in Possibility, not Probability
And the first question I was going to say is, what the hell is that?
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Episode 403: Cathy Heller: Why Women Should Embrace Wealth and Live in Possibility, not Probability
I'm clipping that. How long is that? Because that's going to be the longest clip ever. It's what? Five minutes? Damn. Okay, well, I'm going to try to clip it because that is such a great story, Kathy. And this is what I'm saying. You have good energy because you bring it. You are so passionate about And you can feel it's true. To wrap it all up, the truth is you can feel the authenticity.
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You're not sitting there bullshitting it. This is who you are. And that's why so many women love you and come to you for these courses or whatever you want to call them, these courses.
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I love that.
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Episode 403: Cathy Heller: Why Women Should Embrace Wealth and Live in Possibility, not Probability
Kathy. Okay, guys, the book is called Abundant Ever After. You are incredible. You really are. You are a light. You are an inspiration. You walk the walk. You talk the talk. Kathy, where do people... Okay, everyone buy the book. That's obvious, but they follow you on Instagram.
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Listen to her podcast if you haven't, if you're one of the un-45 million or so.
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You're amazing. Thank you for being on this podcast. Thank you.
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Episode 403: Cathy Heller: Why Women Should Embrace Wealth and Live in Possibility, not Probability
I guess my question to you is, how does somebody change their energy? If you are born or have a certain energy or frequency, how do you elevate it? If you are somebody who has bad energy or a low frequency, is that even possible? Yeah.
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Episode 403: Cathy Heller: Why Women Should Embrace Wealth and Live in Possibility, not Probability
Thank you for that beautiful intro. I should be doing you a beautiful... I have an intro for you, but that's a great one. I'm going to keep it as usual. I say to Kathy that she is like molasses. She can just pour like... She pours sugar sweetness on everybody.
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Episode 403: Cathy Heller: Why Women Should Embrace Wealth and Live in Possibility, not Probability
Okay, guys, we have a very special treat. We have one of my favorite ladies on the podcast today. Her name is Kathy Heller. She's actually the reason that I even have a podcast. I love that. Right? That's the best. It's true. Kathy and I went for coffee maybe, what, four or five years ago? And Kathy said to me, I was, I don't even know what we were talking about. What were we talking about?
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Episode 403: Cathy Heller: Why Women Should Embrace Wealth and Live in Possibility, not Probability
Many years.
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So it's funny because we say the same things, but we use different words to kind of get to the same, I guess, the same goal, right? I agree. What I hear you say is people need to take action. They have to do something different than they did before. Exactly. To change their state of being. Right. And so. Yes, yes, yes. Right.
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Episode 403: Cathy Heller: Why Women Should Embrace Wealth and Live in Possibility, not Probability
So like if it's meditation for some, like I am someone who really believes that you don't need, I mean, I'm not, I can't meditate to save my life. I've tried a hundred times. It doesn't work for me in that way.
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Episode 403: Cathy Heller: Why Women Should Embrace Wealth and Live in Possibility, not Probability
But what I realized over many years of like beating myself up for not being able to sit in the om position and try to feel my heart or whatever the wording is, my meditation is going for a run. Totally. Right? Because it quiets everything around me.
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Episode 403: Cathy Heller: Why Women Should Embrace Wealth and Live in Possibility, not Probability
Yeah, because analysis paralysis kills every dream and every possibility, right? Totally. Because you sit in this like terrible place of like, is it not going to work? Is it maybe going to work? I agree. So that's like the first thing. But you have something that's very interesting to me and I just realized it as you were talking, right?
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Episode 403: Cathy Heller: Why Women Should Embrace Wealth and Live in Possibility, not Probability
Thank you. Always. Okay. Well, this is, okay. I'm glad that that's a great segue into what I was going to say about you because A, you're right. I'm very proud of you.
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Episode 403: Cathy Heller: Why Women Should Embrace Wealth and Live in Possibility, not Probability
Because very few people, like you have people who are very hardcore in business or hardcore in creative.
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Very rarely do people have both sides of the brain working so well. so well together. It's true. You are somebody, that's why I think I'm really, I've always been very, I admire it. And it's very impressive. Let me just give you some background. Cause I know like, I didn't really, I said all those like buzzwords, like podcaster, teacher, she's telling you she's a meditation teacher. She's not.
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Episode 403: Cathy Heller: Why Women Should Embrace Wealth and Live in Possibility, not Probability
I mean, she might be now. Yeah. But she wasn't, okay? So when I met Kathy, Kathy was a struggling artist, like a music artist, who was exceptionally talented. You were dropped from your record label, right? So she was a singer-songwriter, and I was obsessed with your stuff.
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Episode 403: Cathy Heller: Why Women Should Embrace Wealth and Live in Possibility, not Probability
First of all, her voice, she's exceptionally talented. And by the way, I do kind of blow smoke up people's ass sometimes. You're one of three people that listen to my CD all the time.
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Episode 403: Cathy Heller: Why Women Should Embrace Wealth and Live in Possibility, not Probability
I am not just making this shit up. And you can ask Noah that I would put your CD in my car. every day I would listen to it. Like I would like the, like Alanis Morissette, you know, album, like, you know, jagged little pill. You were so, you're so talented. So this is why I want to bring this up. Okay. So when I met you, you were kind of doing all that stuff. You got dropped.
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Episode 437: Annie Särnblad: How to Spot Lies and Detect True Emotions in Seconds
But there's a lot of times when like you like you do something really great and then people like, oh, my God, I'm so happy for you. Right. Like that, like fakeness, like the phoniness. How can you spot when someone's being phony and actually doesn't want the best for you or when they're envious of you or jealous of you?
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Episode 437: Annie Särnblad: How to Spot Lies and Detect True Emotions in Seconds
That's what you're known as, right? Yeah. Oh, God. I'm scared, by the way. So I want to just give a little brief. So her book is called Diary of a Human Lie Detector, Facial Expressions in Love, Lust, and Lies.
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Episode 437: Annie Särnblad: How to Spot Lies and Detect True Emotions in Seconds
No, no, no. I thought we were saying like, what is the biggest mistake that people make when they're trying to, if they want to believe somebody, like are people, what's the biggest mistake that people are not looking for or when they make when they're trying to read somebody?
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Episode 437: Annie Särnblad: How to Spot Lies and Detect True Emotions in Seconds
So it's all in the lower lip if someone's mad.
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Episode 437: Annie Särnblad: How to Spot Lies and Detect True Emotions in Seconds
And you basically know thousands of facial expressions, and you can read thousands of different facial expressions to tell if somebody is lying to you, if they like you, if they're a narcissist, if they're a psychopath. I mean, I'm actually kind of nervous interviewing you because you're going to be watching my face and I'm now going to be like, oh, I shouldn't do this. I shouldn't sit like that.
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Episode 437: Annie Särnblad: How to Spot Lies and Detect True Emotions in Seconds
Oh, right. So you're saying scan someone's total face.
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Episode 437: Annie Särnblad: How to Spot Lies and Detect True Emotions in Seconds
Why?
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Really?
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Episode 437: Annie Särnblad: How to Spot Lies and Detect True Emotions in Seconds
I mean, not everybody, but... I was going to say everybody, I mean, or like guy versus girl. Well, that's actually a good point.
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Episode 437: Annie Särnblad: How to Spot Lies and Detect True Emotions in Seconds
So you're saying you should not look at someone's mouth for longer than three seconds.
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Episode 437: Annie Särnblad: How to Spot Lies and Detect True Emotions in Seconds
So then like a natural instinct of somebody to somebody is if you are caught in this like three second or more gaze on your lips, the natural instinct is to lean in and kiss.
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Episode 437: Annie Särnblad: How to Spot Lies and Detect True Emotions in Seconds
That is really funny, actually. Because my other question was, like, how do you know if someone actually, like, in the dating world, right? Like, how to read signs? Like, does someone really like you? Or do they just want to sleep with you? Or do they even care about you? Like, how, like, I bet you, like, I think a lot of times...
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Episode 437: Annie Särnblad: How to Spot Lies and Detect True Emotions in Seconds
People are not catching on very subtle hints and they make excuses for people's bad behavior or lack of phoning and calling. But if someone just says, oh, baby, I love you, they believe it.
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Episode 437: Annie Särnblad: How to Spot Lies and Detect True Emotions in Seconds
It wasn't. Okay.
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That is hilarious.
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Episode 437: Annie Särnblad: How to Spot Lies and Detect True Emotions in Seconds
Does that ever happen? Do people get scared to talk to you?
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Episode 437: Annie Särnblad: How to Spot Lies and Detect True Emotions in Seconds
Welcome. But then what's the difference between someone who just wants to sleep with you versus someone who really cares about you, wants to have, like, a real relationship?
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Episode 437: Annie Särnblad: How to Spot Lies and Detect True Emotions in Seconds
Wow, that's interesting. I like that. I think I saw that you said that that's for your chin is that spot. Now, but don't most people, I shouldn't say most people, don't a lot of people know if you're telling them something that is vulnerable or telling them something that is meaningful or that the reaction that you should give is looking like you care.
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Episode 437: Annie Särnblad: How to Spot Lies and Detect True Emotions in Seconds
So therefore they'll be like, oh, well, they can also, you can also fake that.
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Episode 437: Annie Särnblad: How to Spot Lies and Detect True Emotions in Seconds
Like if someone said to me something terrible, like, oh, you know, like I'm, you know, my house was just burnt down. I'd be like, oh my God, that's horrible. Like, I mean, that doesn't necessarily, go ahead.
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Episode 437: Annie Särnblad: How to Spot Lies and Detect True Emotions in Seconds
We do intuitively. That's why I find this very interesting, right? Because I think that naturally a lot of us don't trust our own intuition, right? Like you feel it when someone likes you, doesn't like you, if we should do something, not do something, if something's safe. Like what I find, you know what I mean?
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Episode 437: Annie Särnblad: How to Spot Lies and Detect True Emotions in Seconds
What I think is interesting, you know, you talk about this and what I really, what I kind of glommed onto when I found you was, was about the kids piece, right? Like teaching kids what to look for and how to be safe. And like teaching this to children at a young age so like they don't get themselves into a situation that's dangerous, right? Like what to look for.
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Episode 437: Annie Särnblad: How to Spot Lies and Detect True Emotions in Seconds
Like what do you teach kids what to look for that is not safe? That's the first part. It's part A. The second part of that question is what... Can you do the same type of training for somebody online as you can in person? Can you still pick up on these micro expressions as easily online?
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Episode 437: Annie Särnblad: How to Spot Lies and Detect True Emotions in Seconds
Really? Women don't get nervous if they have shame?
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Episode 437: Annie Särnblad: How to Spot Lies and Detect True Emotions in Seconds
Thank you.
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Episode 437: Annie Särnblad: How to Spot Lies and Detect True Emotions in Seconds
Thank you.
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Episode 437: Annie Särnblad: How to Spot Lies and Detect True Emotions in Seconds
Or I think also probably women wear their emotions on their sleeves probably more, so it's more obvious.
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Episode 437: Annie Särnblad: How to Spot Lies and Detect True Emotions in Seconds
Thank you.
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Episode 437: Annie Särnblad: How to Spot Lies and Detect True Emotions in Seconds
Yeah, it's so true. I have a boy and a girl and I definitely understand the difference between that. Like you treat the boy and the girl differently based on what's already kind of programmed and conditioned to how you think they should behave, right? Right. I totally feel that I do that as well.
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Episode 437: Annie Särnblad: How to Spot Lies and Detect True Emotions in Seconds
I didn't do that. By the way, I didn't put my hair on the side because you did it while you were saying that mirroring. And I was actually going to do it and I stopped myself.
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Episode 437: Annie Särnblad: How to Spot Lies and Detect True Emotions in Seconds
Is there like a big difference or what's, because you don't read body language, you read facial expressions, which is more telling and which one is harder to, I guess, deceive?
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Episode 437: Annie Särnblad: How to Spot Lies and Detect True Emotions in Seconds
And he was like, what does that mean? And I was like, that's right. The mirroring for sure, though, is a good one. Yes. Okay. So how do you spot, this is a couple of ones I know that you talk about, I think because people are very curious. It's very hot right now, the topic of narcissism and narcissists. And people ask you all the time, like, how do you spot a narcissist?
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Episode 437: Annie Särnblad: How to Spot Lies and Detect True Emotions in Seconds
How can you really tell by their facial expression or micro expression?
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Episode 437: Annie Särnblad: How to Spot Lies and Detect True Emotions in Seconds
You know, it's interesting you just said something that I've spoken to tons of clinical psychologists and experts, narcissism experts. One thing that's interesting that you said, and I tend to agree, but most people don't say that, is narcissistic men who are truly narcissists
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Episode 437: Annie Särnblad: How to Spot Lies and Detect True Emotions in Seconds
will rather be with a very strong girl because it's more of a challenge to knock them down than a weaker, more insecure, docile because those girls are easier targets for them.
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Episode 437: Annie Särnblad: How to Spot Lies and Detect True Emotions in Seconds
That they're so insecure, they wouldn't last with a strong girl. They don't have the stamina, so then they'll go for the weaker girl. The ones who have the stamina and have actually... Because I don't think necessarily every narcissist has to be an outwardly insecure person, right? Some of them actually, they try to believe that they're actually...
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Episode 437: Annie Särnblad: How to Spot Lies and Detect True Emotions in Seconds
Totally. I agree with you. Let me ask you two more questions and then I'll let you go. Cause I know we had so much technical issues. My phone's blowing up here.
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Episode 437: Annie Särnblad: How to Spot Lies and Detect True Emotions in Seconds
I know. I, and I love your, you've got a very nice, nice spirit about you, Annie. I really, you really do. You're welcome. Um, How could you spot a liar in a minute? Is there like just like some like telltale signs that someone can just tell right away?
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Episode 437: Annie Särnblad: How to Spot Lies and Detect True Emotions in Seconds
I'm going to look into him. I love this guy. He wrote the book. Why am I blanking? He's like a hostage negotiator. He's very well known. Chris Voss. Yeah, I like him.
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Episode 437: Annie Särnblad: How to Spot Lies and Detect True Emotions in Seconds
Are you serious? That's hilarious. Yeah.
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That's someone that's very interesting, actually. Yeah. That's a very interesting person. That's a sure sign. But... You know, right there.
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Episode 437: Annie Särnblad: How to Spot Lies and Detect True Emotions in Seconds
Oh, you mean Vanessa Van Edwards? She wrote social cues. She's a body language person.
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Episode 437: Annie Särnblad: How to Spot Lies and Detect True Emotions in Seconds
She's very good.
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She did. She nodded the other way.
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Episode 437: Annie Särnblad: How to Spot Lies and Detect True Emotions in Seconds
I think that's interesting too because it's not just a one-off sometimes. There has to be consistency. Yes. So like if you're in a sales situation, right? Yes. Right? Like this is a big one for people who are in like business. And, you know, how can you tell if someone is responsive to what you're trying to do and when to back off and when to kind of keep on going?
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Episode 437: Annie Särnblad: How to Spot Lies and Detect True Emotions in Seconds
So what I picked up from this podcast were there's some very universal signs that can play in lots of areas. The dilation of the pupils, the way somebody's mouth is, the way their mouth is up or down. Yep. That like the growl was a big one. Mm-hmm. And the puffy cheeks to tell someone's, like, happy, likes you, smiling.
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Episode 437: Annie Särnblad: How to Spot Lies and Detect True Emotions in Seconds
Like, there's a few very, like, core movements that I think that are just – can play into lots of different scenarios. Right?
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Episode 437: Annie Särnblad: How to Spot Lies and Detect True Emotions in Seconds
Well, thank you for saying that. I find that life is all about patterns, right? Like picking up on patterns. Maybe I'm also autistic. Maybe I'm on the spectrum. Like you were saying, the people that you worked with who had autism, they picked up on patterns quite quickly. Okay. It's kind of fun.
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Episode 437: Annie Särnblad: How to Spot Lies and Detect True Emotions in Seconds
just terrible at me too right like most people I'm dyslexic I can't remember faces I can't remember I can't remember by the way me too I can't remember anything I can't do administrative work I'm terrible at communication the but but observe like like picking up on social cues and observations and all these things like I I feel like a lot of this it's about just like
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Episode 437: Annie Särnblad: How to Spot Lies and Detect True Emotions in Seconds
They're transferable skills, like what's going to be bad in this area is also going to be bad in that area. So all the thousands of micro expressions, it really comes down to like a top 20 or top 10 that are the most important foundational pieces.
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Episode 437: Annie Särnblad: How to Spot Lies and Detect True Emotions in Seconds
And what's tangible, this is what it is also, like give me the tangible pieces that I can implement that can be the most helpful. I'm never going to be an expert or a specialist like you. And I'm going to, I'm not trained. I'm not going to be
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Episode 437: Annie Särnblad: How to Spot Lies and Detect True Emotions in Seconds
memorizing all these things, but there's in any, in whatever anybody does, if you can top line two or three, take two or three great takeaways for the average person to make their life circumstances, whatever, just a smidgen better, 10% better. Right. That's what I'm looking for. And I think you've gave, you gave it to us. So thank you. You're welcome. Okay.
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Episode 437: Annie Särnblad: How to Spot Lies and Detect True Emotions in Seconds
The book is called Diary of a Human Lie Detector. Boom, boom, boom. And her coaching or the subscription service, all that. When is that coming out, Annie?
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Episode 437: Annie Särnblad: How to Spot Lies and Detect True Emotions in Seconds
Check her out. She's great. Thank you again, Annie, for everything. I appreciate being on the show.
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Episode 437: Annie Särnblad: How to Spot Lies and Detect True Emotions in Seconds
It was awesome. Thank you.
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Episode 437: Annie Särnblad: How to Spot Lies and Detect True Emotions in Seconds
And our dinner table is a mess. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I can imagine. Wait, so this is very interesting. You said a few things that I want to talk about. Number one, so body language could be also not just dependent on person to person, but also culturally. Like what you do in one culture could be very distinctly different how your body language is in another culture.
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Episode 437: Annie Särnblad: How to Spot Lies and Detect True Emotions in Seconds
But what you said was interesting, that micro facial expressions, it doesn't matter what culture, who, what age, ethnicity, doesn't matter. It's always the same.
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Episode 437: Annie Särnblad: How to Spot Lies and Detect True Emotions in Seconds
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Episode 437: Annie Särnblad: How to Spot Lies and Detect True Emotions in Seconds
Danger. So you're saying that our facial expressions actually happen before our brain even processes it.
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Episode 437: Annie Särnblad: How to Spot Lies and Detect True Emotions in Seconds
That is so interesting. I think so too. Right? So you can't really fake your facial expression, right?
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Episode 437: Annie Särnblad: How to Spot Lies and Detect True Emotions in Seconds
Okay. So again, I love this. So what's the difference between a macro expression and a micro expression?
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Episode 437: Annie Särnblad: How to Spot Lies and Detect True Emotions in Seconds
Go to LiveMomentous.com and use code Jen for 20% off. Just act now. Start today. Jen for 20% off. LiveMomentous.com. I've been very excited to talk to you, Annie, for a lot of hosts of reasons. I just want to tell the audience, because we're going to go right into it. Annie is, I guess, aka the human lie detector. That's basically your, I guess that's what you're known for.
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Episode 437: Annie Särnblad: How to Spot Lies and Detect True Emotions in Seconds
Italian food tonight I might dip my gaze and just see if you if I get a little no what so this is okay so by the way guys you got to watch the video on YouTube because you have to see exactly what Annie is doing but she was just like kind of pulsing like that what do you call that thing the nasal I
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Episode 437: Annie Särnblad: How to Spot Lies and Detect True Emotions in Seconds
That's a good name for it too. So basically macro expressions are more the obvious ones, right? Like you're disgusted, you're happy, whatever. But the micro are like this, the very subtleties that you can actually really tell how someone is truly thinking or feeling. In the exact moment. Yeah. Okay, so let's go over some stuff here.
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Episode 437: Annie Särnblad: How to Spot Lies and Detect True Emotions in Seconds
So what are signs of like, how do you, what are signs of someone, of a fake smile? Like what are signs of a fake smile? Because everyone is so like, hi, how nice to meet you, la, la, la, la, la. And, you know, like, I personally feel like I can spot it, like, dead on. But I want to know if there are very specific things that you can, like, point to that my audience can get. Yes.
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Episode 437: Annie Särnblad: How to Spot Lies and Detect True Emotions in Seconds
So I would think that faking a smile is pretty much pretty simple only because people know when they should be trying to look like they're happy or look like they're, you know, smiling because they know people are watching them and they can kind of figure it out.
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Episode 437: Annie Särnblad: How to Spot Lies and Detect True Emotions in Seconds
I was going to say, what I find interesting is when someone like, let's say you get good news, you know, this whole thing about like schadenfreude, right? When people actually find like misery in someone's, and when someone feels happiness in someone's misery or like, that's really what it is.
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Episode 420: Liron Kayvan: Simple Strategies for Making Your 2025 Fitness Habits Stick
I also think that people bond over sharing experiences. And so if I go to these places and I meet somebody who also likes a sauna and cold plunge and... Work out. I mean, and then we do those things together. It bonds you because you're doing these experiences together, right?
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Like, and it's a way better way of life than like going to a club and just like, you know, drinking a bunch of like, you know, just basically bonding over getting drunk together. Yeah.
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And by the way, if you're doing that, your personality has been modified. So how do you guys really interact in real life doing like real things, right?
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I agree. Like, I think it's a, I think that's a really positive way for people to socialize, like finding, and that's how you find people that like to do the things that you like to do. Right.
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So I love these coffee and chills or these other, I wish I can remember the article I just saw about how they're like getting like these like cool DJs to like spin at whatever coffee shop and people just like drinking matcha or like a cold brew or whatever. And just like, Also just like hanging out.
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Yeah.
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Episode 420: Liron Kayvan: Simple Strategies for Making Your 2025 Fitness Habits Stick
Well, also, you're finding your, as you call it, your tribe or your community, which, by the way, the biggest part of wellness and the most important piece of wellness and overall health has been shown to be socialization. Has been, you know, loneliness is such an epidemic that people are like literally dying from loneliness.
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Episode 420: Liron Kayvan: Simple Strategies for Making Your 2025 Fitness Habits Stick
and on podcasts people like believe that it's it's crazy like you don't have to have anything else going for you except which i don't there you go so it works perfectly because it's literally like if you have a if you have a british accent and you are a quasi attractive male your numbers are just going to naturally just do well it's it's really it's like i think people should do like a case study on it yeah i think people love listening to a british accent yeah
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Episode 420: Liron Kayvan: Simple Strategies for Making Your 2025 Fitness Habits Stick
Well, yeah, this, yeah. And so like here, it gives people an opportunity to meet people and socialize doing like things that they like to do outside of this isolated area. Because a lot of things in like, you know, a lot of things.
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Physically together. That's what I'm saying.
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I totally agree. So to me, the community, the socialization is so important. What else is there that you think that would be a good- In terms of building habits? Building habits that people can really stick to. Yeah.
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Episode 420: Liron Kayvan: Simple Strategies for Making Your 2025 Fitness Habits Stick
Well, that's why I started this whole thing by saying one of the first things that people should never rely on is motivation, right? And how they feel. By the way, most of the things that I do in my life, I don't feel like doing them. You know, I don't feel like waking up early and making the same sandwich or lunch for my kids every second, every day. You know, like...
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Episode 420: Liron Kayvan: Simple Strategies for Making Your 2025 Fitness Habits Stick
I don't feel like doing it, but I still do it, right? Because of the result, right? Because my kids will go to school without eating if I do that, right? And they'll starve.
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Episode 420: Liron Kayvan: Simple Strategies for Making Your 2025 Fitness Habits Stick
Yeah, I do feel better because you know what? I feel like I mothered them, I took care of them, I nurtured them. That's what I'm saying. That's why you should never, ever go by motivation or feeling. I always rely on how I feel after the fact, not before the fact.
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Episode 420: Liron Kayvan: Simple Strategies for Making Your 2025 Fitness Habits Stick
And I think that that is a really great reframe for people to start actually acting versus being in this position where they procrastinate and they don't do it. For sure. Because, by the way, what will happen is then you will feel badly about yourself that you didn't follow through.
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Episode 420: Liron Kayvan: Simple Strategies for Making Your 2025 Fitness Habits Stick
And that's a negative loop. Right. Right. And so that's the other thing. And, like, the other thing is, like, you don't need to spend a lot of money. You can do things super simple at home. Oh, yeah.
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Episode 420: Liron Kayvan: Simple Strategies for Making Your 2025 Fitness Habits Stick
And so why I'm bringing that up is, like, really try to, like, reframe ideas in your head about, like, what is necessary to live a healthier, fitter life. Right? Like, again, like, I'm bringing back this whole no gym report. I want to... I really... I'd love to bring back that book. I wrote it in 2009.
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Episode 420: Liron Kayvan: Simple Strategies for Making Your 2025 Fitness Habits Stick
I was going to say, you own a gym.
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Episode 420: Liron Kayvan: Simple Strategies for Making Your 2025 Fitness Habits Stick
By the way, let's be clear. Leroy has a ridiculous fit, like ridiculous. He has like a 20-pack. It's kind of sickening. Now, some of it's genetics. I don't care what you say.
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Episode 420: Liron Kayvan: Simple Strategies for Making Your 2025 Fitness Habits Stick
I like to believe it's genetics. It makes me feel better. But a lot of the things that you do, and by the way, a lot of people I know who aesthetically look the best, it's not because they're using hardcore machines. They're doing a lot of body weight exercises. They're doing a ton of pull-ups. They're doing a ton of like walking lunges and isometrical push-ups.
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Episode 420: Liron Kayvan: Simple Strategies for Making Your 2025 Fitness Habits Stick
Totally. Get the basics down first.
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Episode 420: Liron Kayvan: Simple Strategies for Making Your 2025 Fitness Habits Stick
And that's the other thing. I think that to build a fitness habit, and if you are a beginner, this is great for a beginner, is that I think that you get good at the basics before moving on to the big leagues. Because I think what happens a lot of times is people feel they try to like do something that is beyond their fitness level, and then they can't do it
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Episode 420: Liron Kayvan: Simple Strategies for Making Your 2025 Fitness Habits Stick
And it discourages you to do something again or to try it. So by the way, that happens with people even like me who's been doing this forever is that if I don't do the things that I don't like to do or I'm bad at or I'm bad at, that's the thing. You know, I'm bad at single leg squats. So I just stay away from them or I'm like really weak on this glute.
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Episode 420: Liron Kayvan: Simple Strategies for Making Your 2025 Fitness Habits Stick
So I don't want to do any kind of like exercises with that.
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Episode 420: Liron Kayvan: Simple Strategies for Making Your 2025 Fitness Habits Stick
Because my thought is this, that get really good at doing the basics because that will give you pride and confidence. and like self-esteem really. Feel like, oh, I did this. I got this down. All right, I'll do that again. I'll keep on doing it. I'll go back. I'll do this. I'll do that. Because it gives you like a sense of, yeah, a feeling of like, wow, look at, like, go me.
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Episode 420: Liron Kayvan: Simple Strategies for Making Your 2025 Fitness Habits Stick
As opposed to trying this thing and then like you can't do it and then you feel shitty and then you don't do it again. Okay.
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Episode 420: Liron Kayvan: Simple Strategies for Making Your 2025 Fitness Habits Stick
I love that. Okay. I think that's good for our little short episodes here. So again, guys, this is stuff that I know that I feel that's worked for people I know, my clients when I used to do it, me, you, and we might be missing a couple. Let me know if I am. But I think those are overall what really helped.
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Episode 420: Liron Kayvan: Simple Strategies for Making Your 2025 Fitness Habits Stick
Like you could be the stupidest human on the planet. But if you have a British accent, you sound smart automatically. And you sound like you know what you're talking about. Which is so deceiving because I know a lot of people who are from the UK and probably not the smartest, but I get tricked and fooled every time. Hence why you're here over and over again talking about fitness.
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Episode 420: Liron Kayvan: Simple Strategies for Making Your 2025 Fitness Habits Stick
Me too. I'm always curious about that. That's basically what we got going here. So try those out if you are new to fitness or if you're having an issue sustaining, maintaining a fitness program, try to think about those things. Don't go to the gym. Make it as convenient for yourself as possible. Find a community. This is where technology actually can help.
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Episode 420: Liron Kayvan: Simple Strategies for Making Your 2025 Fitness Habits Stick
Find something online where you can join a group where you can meet in real life. You know what I mean? Go to these meetups at these coffee shops. And I'm sure there are some near you. And remember, it's not about the intensity. It's about the consistency. Yeah. Start small. Just don't try to overwhelm yourself by doing an hour or two hours a day. 30 minutes works just as well.
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Episode 420: Liron Kayvan: Simple Strategies for Making Your 2025 Fitness Habits Stick
So you'll see a really big jump or a great incline in your overall fitness level by just doing something over and over again, as opposed to killing yourself once or twice and never coming back again. Anything else?
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Episode 420: Liron Kayvan: Simple Strategies for Making Your 2025 Fitness Habits Stick
Thank you. Have a great day. Bye, everybody.
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Episode 420: Liron Kayvan: Simple Strategies for Making Your 2025 Fitness Habits Stick
No, I'm just teasing. You are knowledgeable and very likable. So I figure, you know, we do these like quick episodes. And it is January, as I'm sure we all know. It's always a new you, new year, resolutions, all that stuff.
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Episode 420: Liron Kayvan: Simple Strategies for Making Your 2025 Fitness Habits Stick
And then people like start to flail by what, March, April?
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Episode 420: Liron Kayvan: Simple Strategies for Making Your 2025 Fitness Habits Stick
Haven't you noticed if you go to the gym in like January, it's full and packed. And then literally like in 30 days, there's like, it's become like a ghost town.
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Episode 420: Liron Kayvan: Simple Strategies for Making Your 2025 Fitness Habits Stick
I know. So let's talk about this, right? Because I mean, this is something we talk about year after year, everyone does. And why motivation? Number one, I don't believe in motivation. I think motivation wanes. And I think that if you're relying on motivation to get you from point A to point B to point Z, you're going to have a problem because there's no way you can always be motivated.
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Episode 420: Liron Kayvan: Simple Strategies for Making Your 2025 Fitness Habits Stick
So, A, I think that people should be doing things no matter how they feel. You don't act based on how you feel. You act based around what you want to achieve, right? But with that being said, what are the best strategies to get people to stick with their fitness goals, with their health goals? Because to me, fitness is so much more than just building muscle.
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Episode 420: Liron Kayvan: Simple Strategies for Making Your 2025 Fitness Habits Stick
It's so much more about your overall longevity and health over time. your cognitive functioning, just your ability to like walk through the world healthy for longer, the quality of your life is so much more supercharged than someone who doesn't exercise and take their fitness program.
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Episode 420: Liron Kayvan: Simple Strategies for Making Your 2025 Fitness Habits Stick
I do. I do, but I do get it. So I'm like you, obviously. I believe that like fitness is like a transformative thing that really changes your life in every way, like I just said. But I think that you have to get it to a place where it becomes habitual for you to really feel the results. Because for me, when I'm not working out, I feel it. Like my mood is really bad. I'm in a bad mood.
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Episode 420: Liron Kayvan: Simple Strategies for Making Your 2025 Fitness Habits Stick
I'm not as focused. I'm really scattered. I'm not as productive. Like this whole myth of like you have to, you know, you have to like feel like it. Like you have to feel you've got to have the energy to work out. Like all of these are excuses and myths. Because to me, even when I feel like shit, I work out because I know I'll feel better after I work out.
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Episode 420: Liron Kayvan: Simple Strategies for Making Your 2025 Fitness Habits Stick
Like I don't know anybody who said they felt worse after working out.
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Episode 420: Liron Kayvan: Simple Strategies for Making Your 2025 Fitness Habits Stick
Guys, can you guys please leave comments and reviews and subscribe to YouTube? I can't tell you how important it is. I'm so remiss in talking about it, and it really makes a difference in the algorithm. So I want to get that out of the way right away.
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Episode 420: Liron Kayvan: Simple Strategies for Making Your 2025 Fitness Habits Stick
Yes. So getting versus leaving, basically. Okay, so here, I have some stuff here. I want to talk today about building fitness habits that actually you can stick to or that will stick for 2025. Because to me, it's again, it's all about building habits. That's how people really end up doing things consistently day to day.
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Episode 420: Liron Kayvan: Simple Strategies for Making Your 2025 Fitness Habits Stick
If it's not part of your daily routine consistently, you will flail and it will fall off. So to me today, I want to talk about building fitness habits that stick for 2025 and beyond. So because, and the reason why this is so important is unless it becomes habitual, you will not stick to it and it has to be part of your day-to-day routine.
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Episode 420: Liron Kayvan: Simple Strategies for Making Your 2025 Fitness Habits Stick
And that's why my first tip into making a habit habitual is to schedule it. If you don't schedule your exercise, your fitness plan, it will likely not happen because
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Episode 420: Liron Kayvan: Simple Strategies for Making Your 2025 Fitness Habits Stick
You put in your calendar, your dentist appointment, your doctor's appointments, your hair appointments. Why not schedule your workout time?
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Episode 420: Liron Kayvan: Simple Strategies for Making Your 2025 Fitness Habits Stick
I think you have to be more specific than that. I think... The more specific you are and don't leave things to chance, like don't leave it to like this window between one and three, like the telephone guy who comes to your house to fix your phone or your internet. I think you have to be as deliberate and specific as possible to make it work.
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Episode 420: Liron Kayvan: Simple Strategies for Making Your 2025 Fitness Habits Stick
Every morning, I will say, if I'm not on that treadmill by 9.15, that's my time. And so, yeah, you can have some flexibility. When I say make it as specific as possible... have a time that you're aiming for exactly, like 9.15. So if you get on at 9.45 or 9.30, fine. But at least when you're specific, you have like a target that you are going for. That helps a lot.
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Episode 420: Liron Kayvan: Simple Strategies for Making Your 2025 Fitness Habits Stick
Another really big one is making it convenient. You know, like there's a reason why my my first book, my first company in the fitness space was called No Gym Required. And this was like 20 years ago is because you don't need to go to the gym to be fit, to be healthy. it's not necessary, right?
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Episode 420: Liron Kayvan: Simple Strategies for Making Your 2025 Fitness Habits Stick
And a lot of times there's a lot of, it's not convenient, like it's 20 minutes away, like things can happen in those 20 minutes. If you are someone who is stuck on time and have kids or whatever, don't overload yourself and overwhelm yourself with the idea that you have to go to the gym. You can be effective by doing workouts, At home, right?
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Episode 420: Liron Kayvan: Simple Strategies for Making Your 2025 Fitness Habits Stick
That's why comments are so important to me because if there's something that maybe you're just interested in knowing or a guest that you'd like me to try to get, let me know. Because without your feedback, I'm just kind of going rogue and just doing what I want to do.
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Episode 420: Liron Kayvan: Simple Strategies for Making Your 2025 Fitness Habits Stick
Like, there's so much technology out there for somebody to use. They can use YouTube, they can use all these apps they can use. There's like so many ways that they can like get a 30 minute workout in that takes out the problem of lead time, like drive time, walk time.
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Episode 420: Liron Kayvan: Simple Strategies for Making Your 2025 Fitness Habits Stick
membership and whatever it is but if you're not going to go it's a waste of time right it's also like an excuse factor like eliminate the ability to have excuses right if you eliminate that as an excuse you can't you can't like you can't lean on it and like people who live in really cold climates you know like if it's super cold outside that should not deter you or stop you whatever to go and do what you need to do yeah
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Episode 420: Liron Kayvan: Simple Strategies for Making Your 2025 Fitness Habits Stick
So that's a big one. And that also goes with the type of exercise, right? People always say, what kind of exercise? It's not really so much about the exercise you're doing. It's about the consistency of doing that.
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Episode 420: Liron Kayvan: Simple Strategies for Making Your 2025 Fitness Habits Stick
I don't think people are starting from zero. I think that... I think a lot of people, it's been like a big, like it's been a very trendy thing. Like fitness has become, like fitness, longevity, wellness has become a really, in my opinion, has become a very trendy thing now.
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Episode 420: Liron Kayvan: Simple Strategies for Making Your 2025 Fitness Habits Stick
Hey friends, you're listening to Fitness Friday on the Habits & Hustle podcast, where myself and my friends share quick and very actionable advice for you becoming your healthiest self. So stay tuned and let me know how you leveled up. All right, guys, welcome to another episode of Fitness Friday. I also want to say something because I always forget, especially lately.
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Episode 420: Liron Kayvan: Simple Strategies for Making Your 2025 Fitness Habits Stick
The problem is too much information can also make you have analysis paralysis, right? You hear, this is the workout you should do. This is the diet you should do. This is the supplement you should do. Simplify your life and stop listening to everything and figure out what you can actually do and be realistic with that stuff.
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Episode 420: Liron Kayvan: Simple Strategies for Making Your 2025 Fitness Habits Stick
So to me, it's like, you know, like, even though I love running, you hate running, right? So then don't do it. Like, right? Like, what can you do from your home? Like, to me, like, this is a whole other podcast that we could do, which is about the myths, right? Like, about workouts that work the best versus things that work, like, things that don't work. Honestly, at the end of the day...
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Episode 420: Liron Kayvan: Simple Strategies for Making Your 2025 Fitness Habits Stick
The, the amount that the, the decimal point of like what actually moves the needle is very little. The thing that moves the needle the most is being consistent over a period of time that will get you results. So it's not about the actual workout you do. If you love Pilates, do Pilates. If you love, you know, cardio, then maybe you should do cardio. If that, if that's the gateway drug.
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Episode 420: Liron Kayvan: Simple Strategies for Making Your 2025 Fitness Habits Stick
Exactly. Which actually is a great segue into this because I have Liron back on the podcast today talking all about health and fitness since it is you know, January. And, you know, if you guys don't like him, for example, I'm just kidding.
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Episode 420: Liron Kayvan: Simple Strategies for Making Your 2025 Fitness Habits Stick
to get you to exercise, right? Like that to me is more important. I think walking is the best exercise. Like it's the most convenient. There's no barrier to entry and it can start you on a path to exercise and health.
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Episode 420: Liron Kayvan: Simple Strategies for Making Your 2025 Fitness Habits Stick
And I beg to differ because what I've noticed is, number one, especially if you throw on a weighted vest, you can get... Like, that's a... I don't call it rocking. I just call it walking with a weighted vest.
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Episode 420: Liron Kayvan: Simple Strategies for Making Your 2025 Fitness Habits Stick
Let's call it walking with a weighted vest. It's so good for you.
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Episode 420: Liron Kayvan: Simple Strategies for Making Your 2025 Fitness Habits Stick
Oh, son, yeah.
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Episode 420: Liron Kayvan: Simple Strategies for Making Your 2025 Fitness Habits Stick
That would be crazy.
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Episode 420: Liron Kayvan: Simple Strategies for Making Your 2025 Fitness Habits Stick
20 pounds is still a lot though. But okay. The thing is though, like walking to me, like gets, you know, number one, it clears, it clears your head. Just for the...
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Episode 420: Liron Kayvan: Simple Strategies for Making Your 2025 Fitness Habits Stick
I guess. So let's get back to building the fitness habits that will actually work. Scheduling your workouts, putting your calendar, putting your schedule, making it as convenient as possible to eliminate that excuse. The other thing is joining a fitness community of some kind. There's so many right now. Do you know there's a huge movement of how it used to be that people meet up at bars and
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Episode 420: Liron Kayvan: Simple Strategies for Making Your 2025 Fitness Habits Stick
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, that would never happen. By the way, what I have noticed, what was that?
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Episode 420: Liron Kayvan: Simple Strategies for Making Your 2025 Fitness Habits Stick
Yeah. People being at bars. Now people are doing the same type of like cool events at like coffee shops.
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Episode 420: Liron Kayvan: Simple Strategies for Making Your 2025 Fitness Habits Stick
You know, for like like-minded people. Because fitness has become more trendy, there's so many... It's a positive social change for sure.
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Episode 420: Liron Kayvan: Simple Strategies for Making Your 2025 Fitness Habits Stick
There's always somebody for sure. But I will say, and I think I've said this to you so many times and I tell us, I talk about this about a bunch. I think that people who have a, males who have a British accent crush on social media and
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Episode 454: Group Fitness Reality Check: Why F45 and Barry's Bootcamp Might Be Sabotaging Your Goals
Right, that's good. That's good. One other thing I wanted to bring up was Pilates. Pilates is the number one workout.
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Episode 454: Group Fitness Reality Check: Why F45 and Barry's Bootcamp Might Be Sabotaging Your Goals
Pilates is the number one workout like of 2025. Everyone like Pilates is like on a huge... It's been around a while too.
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Episode 454: Group Fitness Reality Check: Why F45 and Barry's Bootcamp Might Be Sabotaging Your Goals
But it's become like the workout of the year. My opinion, if anyone cares to know...
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Episode 454: Group Fitness Reality Check: Why F45 and Barry's Bootcamp Might Be Sabotaging Your Goals
I would say if my opinion is I think it's a great additive to something else you're doing.
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Episode 454: Group Fitness Reality Check: Why F45 and Barry's Bootcamp Might Be Sabotaging Your Goals
I don't think Pilates doesn't take the place of strength training. Or endurance training. Or endurance training.
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Episode 454: Group Fitness Reality Check: Why F45 and Barry's Bootcamp Might Be Sabotaging Your Goals
It's great if you want to strengthen your core, but I think the misconception is if you do Pilates, you're going to have an elongated dancer's body because you see these images of these beautiful ballerina-type bodies, these lean, tall girls going by the droves to Pilates, and that's just not realistic.
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Episode 454: Group Fitness Reality Check: Why F45 and Barry's Bootcamp Might Be Sabotaging Your Goals
unless that's their genetic type okay but if I just don't think that Pilates is going to move the needle that much for you so I think you know I think that if you want to do Pilates all the power to you but if you really want to change your only workout if you not be your only workout in general I think this is a theme that both of us like harp on quite a lot is you you do want to have more than one type of training like you do want to be well-rounded and
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Episode 454: Group Fitness Reality Check: Why F45 and Barry's Bootcamp Might Be Sabotaging Your Goals
By the way, like most gyms aren't doing what you do. I think people are doing a lot of these like one-offs. They'll go somewhere for Pilates. They'll go to one place for Pilates.
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Episode 454: Group Fitness Reality Check: Why F45 and Barry's Bootcamp Might Be Sabotaging Your Goals
I have my friend Lerun. Hello. Hello. Joining me, which he does on the regular. We just banter back and forth and we pick a fitness topic. I'm always remiss to say this, but I really love feedback. I love comments. I love knowing what you guys want to have more of, less of. It really helps with the podcast. It really helps kind of guide who we have on the show, what we actually talk about.
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Episode 454: Group Fitness Reality Check: Why F45 and Barry's Bootcamp Might Be Sabotaging Your Goals
By the way, not even class pass anymore. Just like, hey, you know what? I like this place for Pilates. I'll go there. I'll go to a main gym to do my strength training and my cardio. I'll go to a boxing gym to do my boxing. It's very fragmented now, which is fine. But I guess my point is, there's two different points.
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Episode 454: Group Fitness Reality Check: Why F45 and Barry's Bootcamp Might Be Sabotaging Your Goals
My point is if you really want to change your body in a real way, then maybe, you know, do Pilates in addition to something else like string training. But the other thing is, again, the other component is if you just want to move and that's the only thing you like, then something is better than nothing. And like that social element again.
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Episode 454: Group Fitness Reality Check: Why F45 and Barry's Bootcamp Might Be Sabotaging Your Goals
But I just think that, like I said, everything has its like 15 minutes of glory and fame. And I think Pilates is like having it right now.
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Episode 454: Group Fitness Reality Check: Why F45 and Barry's Bootcamp Might Be Sabotaging Your Goals
It has, but like, I'm telling you.
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Episode 454: Group Fitness Reality Check: Why F45 and Barry's Bootcamp Might Be Sabotaging Your Goals
Really?
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Episode 454: Group Fitness Reality Check: Why F45 and Barry's Bootcamp Might Be Sabotaging Your Goals
Well, I see a lot sometimes the professional athlete guys I know, they go to Pilates on their like active recovery days or like their off days just to kind of like do other things, just for like stretching.
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Episode 454: Group Fitness Reality Check: Why F45 and Barry's Bootcamp Might Be Sabotaging Your Goals
Yeah, but some of these classes could be very challenging in these intricate muscles that you just don't ever, ever work. Again, I have nothing against Pilates. I just don't think it should be your BL end all. And with that, I think we should wrap this for fitness and then move on to next topics. But tell us, what is your favorite group fitness class? Have you guys tried High Rocks?
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Episode 454: Group Fitness Reality Check: Why F45 and Barry's Bootcamp Might Be Sabotaging Your Goals
Because like I said, I'm very curious and I'm going to try it very soon. And tell us what you think. Do you agree? Do you disagree? Always comments, feedback, so important. Thanks, Leroy, for being here.
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Episode 454: Group Fitness Reality Check: Why F45 and Barry's Bootcamp Might Be Sabotaging Your Goals
So please, any feedback is good feedback. Also, if you've not subscribed to this podcast, please hit the button because it makes a massive difference. It really helps with the algorithm. And I always forget to mention that. And I just want to make sure that we keep on providing good information and the people can hear it.
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Episode 454: Group Fitness Reality Check: Why F45 and Barry's Bootcamp Might Be Sabotaging Your Goals
So if we don't have subscribers, it's really hard to kind of stay on the chart. So- Please, please, please, I beg you guys, if you haven't hit that button, please do so. All right. Without further ado.
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Episode 454: Group Fitness Reality Check: Why F45 and Barry's Bootcamp Might Be Sabotaging Your Goals
Here we are. Okay, Leroy, you know what I want to talk about today? What? the idea and group fitness overall, right? Because you know, the F45s, the Orange Theory, the Barry's Bootcamp, because there is some controversy around if it's effective or not, especially when you're in like in middle age, right? For your hormones and all sorts of different things.
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Episode 454: Group Fitness Reality Check: Why F45 and Barry's Bootcamp Might Be Sabotaging Your Goals
The reason why I want to bring it up also is because I remember back when, not even that long ago, that was like the thing to do, right? Everybody wanted to do Barry's Bootcamp. If you went to Barry's Bootcamp, it was like the hardest workout in the world. You feel like you're sweating. It's like super difficult. You feel like you've done so much.
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Episode 454: Group Fitness Reality Check: Why F45 and Barry's Bootcamp Might Be Sabotaging Your Goals
But I actually, and you're going to hate me because Leroy actually owns a group fitness gym, which is kind of ironic.
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Episode 454: Group Fitness Reality Check: Why F45 and Barry's Bootcamp Might Be Sabotaging Your Goals
Yeah, you do a lot of things, but group fitness is a big part of what you do. I want to know, and the first question I have, have you seen an incline or a decline in popularity with group fitness?
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Episode 454: Group Fitness Reality Check: Why F45 and Barry's Bootcamp Might Be Sabotaging Your Goals
i think an incline and i think it will continue really yeah i mean i think it's great for the social aspect the community aspect aspect but now this may be controversial but i'm not necessarily sure that if you really want to like change your body composition and get next level fit it's the greatest like mode of exercise and i'll tell you why
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Episode 454: Group Fitness Reality Check: Why F45 and Barry's Bootcamp Might Be Sabotaging Your Goals
I think because it's a lot of like running around aimlessly and you're not really doing heavy weight. You're kind of doing this, you know, you're kind of just like a lot of times it goes so fast. You're just trying to keep up. And it's a lot of cardio at the end of the day, even when, because the whole goal is to like make, to kill somebody basically, right?
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Episode 454: Group Fitness Reality Check: Why F45 and Barry's Bootcamp Might Be Sabotaging Your Goals
And what I've had a lot of happen to me was I had a lot of injuries and my appetite went through the roof after that class. So I ended up eating double or triple the amount that I would have otherwise had if I just kind of did more of a moderate workout or just did strength training and a walk. Go ahead.
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Episode 454: Group Fitness Reality Check: Why F45 and Barry's Bootcamp Might Be Sabotaging Your Goals
What did you say?
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Episode 454: Group Fitness Reality Check: Why F45 and Barry's Bootcamp Might Be Sabotaging Your Goals
I wouldn't get away with it, but okay. Your accent, you can get away with anything.
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Episode 454: Group Fitness Reality Check: Why F45 and Barry's Bootcamp Might Be Sabotaging Your Goals
true okay so i should have had that i should have made that caveat right the idea of group fitness as a whole for the social aspect right great big picture big picture and by the way now you know like people are now doing that like they're kind of doing these like more uh fitness running clubs instead of going to meet at a bar people are doing dates by doing you had a coffee and chill
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Episode 454: Group Fitness Reality Check: Why F45 and Barry's Bootcamp Might Be Sabotaging Your Goals
And just in terms of like all those things. I think for that aspect, it's amazing. But I'm talking about if you are somebody who has a particular fitness goal that you want to achieve, I don't think it's the best mode to get there. But if you're somebody who doesn't do anything and now you're doing something, you're like now you're being active, it's amazing. Two different things though altogether.
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Episode 454: Group Fitness Reality Check: Why F45 and Barry's Bootcamp Might Be Sabotaging Your Goals
Let me tell you what Barry's Bootcamp does.
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Episode 454: Group Fitness Reality Check: Why F45 and Barry's Bootcamp Might Be Sabotaging Your Goals
they make you run at an ungodly pace that is almost impossible and then they say now just put an incline at 15 and so now you're running so fast where like the fact like if you're not going to sprain an ankle or like bust your knee in the process you are very lucky and then they go back and forth between doing a lower body strength training and then going back on the treadmill
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Episode 454: Group Fitness Reality Check: Why F45 and Barry's Bootcamp Might Be Sabotaging Your Goals
or upper body strength training, or they have the core days. But what I find is that it burns your adrenal glands, number one. You can't be doing that every single day. And like I said, you're dead at the end. And you feel good because I personally, I love that feeling. But like I said, it was counterproductive because... I was so hungry.
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Episode 454: Group Fitness Reality Check: Why F45 and Barry's Bootcamp Might Be Sabotaging Your Goals
I was starving after doing those classes that I would eat anything and everything in sight, which then, like I said, it's counterproductive.
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Episode 454: Group Fitness Reality Check: Why F45 and Barry's Bootcamp Might Be Sabotaging Your Goals
Because that's exactly it. Like if you're doing that once in a while, it's great. But to do that on a regular basis and like then you feel like guilted if you're not being if you're not able to run at like 12 miles an hour at a 15 incline because the other person is. So I found it to be like, you know, like I just found it like that's what I did when I was in my 20s and my 30s.
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Episode 454: Group Fitness Reality Check: Why F45 and Barry's Bootcamp Might Be Sabotaging Your Goals
But then like I had to like back off a little bit from that. But anyway, that's what that's what it is.
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Episode 454: Group Fitness Reality Check: Why F45 and Barry's Bootcamp Might Be Sabotaging Your Goals
Yeah, of course. But you're not doing Barry's Bootcamp in like your shot in a phys ed class.
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Episode 454: Group Fitness Reality Check: Why F45 and Barry's Bootcamp Might Be Sabotaging Your Goals
Yes, you can sweat. Yes.
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Episode 454: Group Fitness Reality Check: Why F45 and Barry's Bootcamp Might Be Sabotaging Your Goals
You're not good enough.
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Episode 454: Group Fitness Reality Check: Why F45 and Barry's Bootcamp Might Be Sabotaging Your Goals
No, I don't know.
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Episode 454: Group Fitness Reality Check: Why F45 and Barry's Bootcamp Might Be Sabotaging Your Goals
Are they just shaming somebody?
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Episode 454: Group Fitness Reality Check: Why F45 and Barry's Bootcamp Might Be Sabotaging Your Goals
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Episode 454: Group Fitness Reality Check: Why F45 and Barry's Bootcamp Might Be Sabotaging Your Goals
I want to know where.
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Episode 454: Group Fitness Reality Check: Why F45 and Barry's Bootcamp Might Be Sabotaging Your Goals
I'm curious.
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Episode 454: Group Fitness Reality Check: Why F45 and Barry's Bootcamp Might Be Sabotaging Your Goals
Well, you know, I never understood. The one that I never understood was spin classes, like SoulCycle. I never, I mean, besides the community aspect that I think that people love.
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Episode 454: Group Fitness Reality Check: Why F45 and Barry's Bootcamp Might Be Sabotaging Your Goals
Well, this is the thing. Have you heard of High Rocks? It's like the new hottest thing.
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Episode 454: Group Fitness Reality Check: Why F45 and Barry's Bootcamp Might Be Sabotaging Your Goals
See, to me, I like the concept of that because it's basically, I haven't done it.
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Episode 454: Group Fitness Reality Check: Why F45 and Barry's Bootcamp Might Be Sabotaging Your Goals
It's a hybrid. Well, it's kind of like, it's kind of taken over the, you know, how CrossFit was massive.
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Episode 454: Group Fitness Reality Check: Why F45 and Barry's Bootcamp Might Be Sabotaging Your Goals
So the thing about all group fitness, right? Like when something takes off, it basically becomes, like you said, it becomes like the culture. It's the socialization. It's the building of a community. All that, right? So CrossFit had its moment. CrossFit's still, I'm sure, popular with some people. But now, like, High Rocks, is that what it's called even? Yeah. It's having its moment big time.
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Episode 454: Group Fitness Reality Check: Why F45 and Barry's Bootcamp Might Be Sabotaging Your Goals
Like, I see it everywhere. A lot of my friends are doing it all the time. People I never even thought would even actually, like, partake in fitness like that. And, well, it's very much like what I like about it. It's hardcore, but it involves... It's kind of like... rowing. Look it up. Hold on a minute. I'll show you. I'm going to tell you very specifically what it is.
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Episode 454: Group Fitness Reality Check: Why F45 and Barry's Bootcamp Might Be Sabotaging Your Goals
It basically is a fitness competition that combines endurance and strength. It consists of eight rounds of one kilometer runs followed by eight different function fitness stations, such as sled pushes, burpees, broad jumps, farmer carries. And the goal is to compete in the race as quickly as possible. So the whole purpose of it, like what it is gamified basically.
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Episode 454: Group Fitness Reality Check: Why F45 and Barry's Bootcamp Might Be Sabotaging Your Goals
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Episode 454: Group Fitness Reality Check: Why F45 and Barry's Bootcamp Might Be Sabotaging Your Goals
So like they gamify this whole thing, but it's doing things that, but that's why I, I prefer this type of hot, like high rocks versus like a CrossFit because it's things that I think more of the general population can do. If you, if you train for it, like if you train well, then you can, Get better at pushing a sled. If you train well, you can do burpees.
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Episode 454: Group Fitness Reality Check: Why F45 and Barry's Bootcamp Might Be Sabotaging Your Goals
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Episode 454: Group Fitness Reality Check: Why F45 and Barry's Bootcamp Might Be Sabotaging Your Goals
If you train, you know, you can run a mile, right? CrossFit, I found had more dangerous moves like power lifts.
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Episode 454: Group Fitness Reality Check: Why F45 and Barry's Bootcamp Might Be Sabotaging Your Goals
Yeah, like Olympic lifting and like things that like the average Joe will actually really hurt themselves.
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Episode 454: Group Fitness Reality Check: Why F45 and Barry's Bootcamp Might Be Sabotaging Your Goals
Yeah, like the High Rocks has been really good. So this is what it really incorporates, running, functional training, and basically the race format, right? Like who can finish first. And like I said, that is building a real community for people. And it's like the hot thing to do. And so I'm actually going to be doing one.
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Episode 454: Group Fitness Reality Check: Why F45 and Barry's Bootcamp Might Be Sabotaging Your Goals
I'm not sure where, because they do it in different cities and it's a whole thing. But to me, and because you're not doing that all the time, what I love about it, it's also a goal that you can work towards, right? So like if you want to get stronger, if you want to improve your endurance, right? Then, you know, here's a great goal.
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Episode 454: Group Fitness Reality Check: Why F45 and Barry's Bootcamp Might Be Sabotaging Your Goals
Now train for it versus going to a lot of these other group classes that really there's no real goal. It's just like, yes, it's a great community and make someone work out. But it's just like, can you kill yourself today? Can you push yourself? Great. You did it. OK, now go home like that to me.
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Episode 454: Group Fitness Reality Check: Why F45 and Barry's Bootcamp Might Be Sabotaging Your Goals
And I think with women, especially as we get older, especially in our 40s with all the hormone issues we have, I don't think it's great as a, I don't really love that, like the orange theories. My friend's going to kill me because he owns a bunch of them. But let's just say F45s are all those things.
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Episode 454: Group Fitness Reality Check: Why F45 and Barry's Bootcamp Might Be Sabotaging Your Goals
I don't think it's the greatest use of time if you're trying to really kind of build muscle, get stronger and get fitter.
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Episode 454: Group Fitness Reality Check: Why F45 and Barry's Bootcamp Might Be Sabotaging Your Goals
Right. And I will also just say, besides like have a goal in place, again, if you are not doing something, this is a great aspect of community building. If it motivates you to work out, I think it's great. If you have a specific fitness goal in mind, you may want to do something in addition to it. But that's basically all.
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Episode 454: Group Fitness Reality Check: Why F45 and Barry's Bootcamp Might Be Sabotaging Your Goals
So again, you guys should try something like that where you have a goal and you can sign up with a bunch of friends, which I think is a great other social element. And yeah, if you're in LA, you should also go check out Lerone's classes. You do boxing classes, right?
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Episode 402: Liron Kayvan: The Truth about Plant-Based Diets + Is Creatine Crucial for Aging?
Okay. How much do you take? Like, okay.
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Episode 402: Liron Kayvan: The Truth about Plant-Based Diets + Is Creatine Crucial for Aging?
Oh my God. So you, after all that big yelling and screaming about creatine, you're not taking it. But I eat meat. But so you don't take creatine as a supplement because you're getting it from your red meat. Yes.
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Episode 402: Liron Kayvan: The Truth about Plant-Based Diets + Is Creatine Crucial for Aging?
So let's say this. For someone who's not eating red meat, maybe they're just eating chicken and turkey, let's just say, or salmon or whatever, then they should be taking a creatine supplement. Definitely.
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Episode 402: Liron Kayvan: The Truth about Plant-Based Diets + Is Creatine Crucial for Aging?
Okay. And for people who are regularly eating red meat, who regularly eat animal protein, to take the creatine supplement is not as necessary. Is that what you're saying? Yes. Okay. Thank you.
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Episode 402: Liron Kayvan: The Truth about Plant-Based Diets + Is Creatine Crucial for Aging?
Okay, good. Thank you. All right, guys. That is the end. Okay, so by the way, should we do this shot of Magic Mind before we leave? Yeah. Speaking of it, have you ever done this before?
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Episode 402: Liron Kayvan: The Truth about Plant-Based Diets + Is Creatine Crucial for Aging?
Oh, I should get you some. They're delicious. They're my favorite shots because it's, A, good for great energy and great for focus. We should have done it before the podcast.
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Episode 402: Liron Kayvan: The Truth about Plant-Based Diets + Is Creatine Crucial for Aging?
You know what Rhodiola is, by the way? Rhodiola is the natural herb for what people use for ADHD. It's like a natural, what do you call it? It's a natural adderall. That's what I heard.
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Episode 402: Liron Kayvan: The Truth about Plant-Based Diets + Is Creatine Crucial for Aging?
Yeah. It helps you like really with like your focus and your attention.
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Episode 402: Liron Kayvan: The Truth about Plant-Based Diets + Is Creatine Crucial for Aging?
Well, why do you take it then?
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Episode 402: Liron Kayvan: The Truth about Plant-Based Diets + Is Creatine Crucial for Aging?
But what are you feeling?
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Episode 402: Liron Kayvan: The Truth about Plant-Based Diets + Is Creatine Crucial for Aging?
Just drink your shot so we can finish this podcast.
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Episode 402: Liron Kayvan: The Truth about Plant-Based Diets + Is Creatine Crucial for Aging?
Yeah, I'm going to do, I did like two already today. I forgot. I can't take more than two.
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Episode 402: Liron Kayvan: The Truth about Plant-Based Diets + Is Creatine Crucial for Aging?
No, go, go ahead. Okay. And by the way, guys, before we say goodbye, I should say this at the beginning of the podcast, but if you're still here listening, always, if you guys can leave me a review, subscribe if you haven't. It really helps with the podcast. So I always am remiss in saying that to people. So I'm going to, even though I said at the end of the podcast, I'm glad.
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Yeah, like and subscribe. Yes. Thank you. Bye. Bye.
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Episode 402: Liron Kayvan: The Truth about Plant-Based Diets + Is Creatine Crucial for Aging?
slash gym owner congrats yeah i love that what's it called beyond fitness la i love it we might rebrand at some point but for now it's beyond fitness la beyond fitness la okay we're going to talk about creatine creatine's all the rage now this is the supplement that everyone talks about do you think there is a way to supplement creatine that's better than others and how much should people actually take
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Episode 402: Liron Kayvan: The Truth about Plant-Based Diets + Is Creatine Crucial for Aging?
Okay.
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Episode 402: Liron Kayvan: The Truth about Plant-Based Diets + Is Creatine Crucial for Aging?
I'm going to say that again. Creatine is the most science-backed, most studied supplement, I think, on the market right now.
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Episode 402: Liron Kayvan: The Truth about Plant-Based Diets + Is Creatine Crucial for Aging?
This is what I want to talk about. So let's just back it up a second, okay? Because creatine scares me. I'm a woman. I'm scared of creatine, even though I know that it's the most studied supplement. I know that it helps build muscle. I know that there's amazing research that proves it's great for your cognitive abilities, your brain health. However...
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Episode 402: Liron Kayvan: The Truth about Plant-Based Diets + Is Creatine Crucial for Aging?
I'm not alone when I feel, and I don't know if it's just like the psychological thing, that creatine will make me gain weight. I feel like that to me, because I've seen in my life. Well, listen, I've seen in my life, because it's been predominantly used by men. And up until very recently, it's really been like a man supplement.
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Episode 402: Liron Kayvan: The Truth about Plant-Based Diets + Is Creatine Crucial for Aging?
Every guy I know would take a scoop of creatine and put it in his shake to get super mass and get jacked.
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Episode 402: Liron Kayvan: The Truth about Plant-Based Diets + Is Creatine Crucial for Aging?
True, true. But how do women get over the psychological hump that creatine will make them fat?
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Episode 402: Liron Kayvan: The Truth about Plant-Based Diets + Is Creatine Crucial for Aging?
Okay, but I believe that it does, you just said yourself, You can retain water on it.
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Episode 402: Liron Kayvan: The Truth about Plant-Based Diets + Is Creatine Crucial for Aging?
Okay, but still, if you're retaining water and that will make you bloated. And not one girl I know, not one girl I know wants to take that risk of feeling bloated. It's just, it's human nature. I don't care what you say. It's just human nature. So how can we take creatine and lower our chances of getting bloated?
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Episode 402: Liron Kayvan: The Truth about Plant-Based Diets + Is Creatine Crucial for Aging?
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Episode 402: Liron Kayvan: The Truth about Plant-Based Diets + Is Creatine Crucial for Aging?
Okay, so, okay, we have it naturally. What are some of the ways that we can naturally increase our creatine without taking a creatine supplement?
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Episode 402: Liron Kayvan: The Truth about Plant-Based Diets + Is Creatine Crucial for Aging?
You didn't give me anything. You just kind of talked a lot.
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Episode 402: Liron Kayvan: The Truth about Plant-Based Diets + Is Creatine Crucial for Aging?
Okay, no, be much more succinct.
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Episode 402: Liron Kayvan: The Truth about Plant-Based Diets + Is Creatine Crucial for Aging?
So you think people who are on a plant-based diet, they should be taking creatine? Absolutely.
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Episode 402: Liron Kayvan: The Truth about Plant-Based Diets + Is Creatine Crucial for Aging?
Isn't it crazy that you have to have all these precursors now to talk about people who are plant-based versus animal-based because...
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Episode 402: Liron Kayvan: The Truth about Plant-Based Diets + Is Creatine Crucial for Aging?
No, like you'll literally offend somebody if you say you have to eat meat. Like right when you said, oh my God, we've evolved to be somebody who eats red meat, whatever. Literally in my head while you were saying it, I was like, oh my God, he's going to get in trouble. Yeah. To me, that is so effed up.
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Episode 402: Liron Kayvan: The Truth about Plant-Based Diets + Is Creatine Crucial for Aging?
But it shouldn't be. It should be like, this is your opinion. That's what you think. By the way, I'm a person that needs to have animal protein as well, or else I feel starving. I have a friend, actually, Darren Olean, who's one of my best friends. who is plant-based.
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Episode 402: Liron Kayvan: The Truth about Plant-Based Diets + Is Creatine Crucial for Aging?
Okay, vegan. And it works for him. Like, he looks amazing.
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Episode 402: Liron Kayvan: The Truth about Plant-Based Diets + Is Creatine Crucial for Aging?
Maybe a couple. He takes like truniogen NAD. He takes, I'm sure he takes a bunch of other things I don't know about. But the reason why I'm bringing him up is like, he has a lot of lean muscle mass. He looks good. But he's probably one of the only people I know who are vegan, who look that good, and who feel to me like that he's super healthy. I could be totally wrong.
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Episode 402: Liron Kayvan: The Truth about Plant-Based Diets + Is Creatine Crucial for Aging?
Yeah, I mean, listen. I don't know. Listen, you and me both, I believe that like, I would say everybody's different, but I will say the majority of people in my world or I meet, because I meet a lot of people, that they saw a significant difference
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Episode 402: Liron Kayvan: The Truth about Plant-Based Diets + Is Creatine Crucial for Aging?
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Episode 402: Liron Kayvan: The Truth about Plant-Based Diets + Is Creatine Crucial for Aging?
This is the problem with it, I think. Well, it's so ironic, right? I find this to be really interesting because the problem is, unless you know how to do food combinations really well as a vegan, you're going to be missing out.
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Episode 402: Liron Kayvan: The Truth about Plant-Based Diets + Is Creatine Crucial for Aging?
No, you're going to be missing on fundamental nutrients because you don't like you have to like know that beans plus a rice equals a protein. But if you have to be doing like if you are a bad math student or you don't understand how combinations work, please add animal protein to your diet and make it simple for yourself and call it a day.
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Episode 402: Liron Kayvan: The Truth about Plant-Based Diets + Is Creatine Crucial for Aging?
Well, I find that you can look very emaciated and unhealthy in gray. Like there's a place in LA. Oh my God.
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Episode 402: Liron Kayvan: The Truth about Plant-Based Diets + Is Creatine Crucial for Aging?
Gray, gray, like the color gray.
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Episode 402: Liron Kayvan: The Truth about Plant-Based Diets + Is Creatine Crucial for Aging?
Yeah, not gray. Jaundice. There's a place I used to go all the time. It was so hilarious. It was called The Co-op. It was like this grocery store in Santa Monica. It's probably still there.
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Episode 402: Liron Kayvan: The Truth about Plant-Based Diets + Is Creatine Crucial for Aging?
I would go. Yeah, it's very hippie dippy. And I would take, my mom would come visit me from Canada. And we would go there to get like, you know, after the gym. And I would take her there. And my mother was so perplexed because she looked around. It's supposed to be like a health food store. And she's like, why does everyone here look like they were like jaundiced out of the hospital?
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Episode 402: Liron Kayvan: The Truth about Plant-Based Diets + Is Creatine Crucial for Aging?
They were like, they all looked very like weak and either too thin or like just unhealthy physically. And like the irony is that like, that's like a health food store. That's supposed to be, it was supposed to be like for all the, you know, where all the healthy people looked, but yet like Ralph's down the street had way more of a healthy, like a healthy person looking.
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Episode 402: Liron Kayvan: The Truth about Plant-Based Diets + Is Creatine Crucial for Aging?
I just find a lot of this stuff to be so absurd. Right. And I don't know. I just found that to be funny.
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Episode 402: Liron Kayvan: The Truth about Plant-Based Diets + Is Creatine Crucial for Aging?
I used to plug your podcast on my podcast.
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Episode 402: Liron Kayvan: The Truth about Plant-Based Diets + Is Creatine Crucial for Aging?
It's very profitable. But at the same time, if you say that just to play devil's advocate, that there should be people profiting on the meat side saying that you should eat meat because I mean, you have people on both sides who profit. I'm talking from actual personal experience.
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Episode 402: Liron Kayvan: The Truth about Plant-Based Diets + Is Creatine Crucial for Aging?
No, but what I'm saying is like, I know when I'm not eating protein, like animal protein... I have less energy. I can't work out as hard. I don't look as good. Like how do you build lean muscle without eating more like animal protein? It's very difficult.
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Episode 402: Liron Kayvan: The Truth about Plant-Based Diets + Is Creatine Crucial for Aging?
Actually a good one.
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Episode 402: Liron Kayvan: The Truth about Plant-Based Diets + Is Creatine Crucial for Aging?
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Episode 402: Liron Kayvan: The Truth about Plant-Based Diets + Is Creatine Crucial for Aging?
Yeah, I think that's a good point. Okay. By the way, I think that's a great impression. I also think... It's not my best. Go meatless. I think having the idea of meatless Mondays is a fine thing because... I do it sometimes on Saturdays.
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Episode 402: Liron Kayvan: The Truth about Plant-Based Diets + Is Creatine Crucial for Aging?
See, I have no problem with that because it's like a one day or two days a week.
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Episode 402: Liron Kayvan: The Truth about Plant-Based Diets + Is Creatine Crucial for Aging?
But as like a general rule where you're just, you're like excluding meat from your diet completely is crazy because this is the bottom line. Muscle is the answer and the, I guess the secret sauce to overall longevity and to aging well.
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Episode 402: Liron Kayvan: The Truth about Plant-Based Diets + Is Creatine Crucial for Aging?
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Episode 402: Liron Kayvan: The Truth about Plant-Based Diets + Is Creatine Crucial for Aging?
Yes.
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Episode 402: Liron Kayvan: The Truth about Plant-Based Diets + Is Creatine Crucial for Aging?
No, but especially as you're aging, especially middle age, you need to have muscle on your body.
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Episode 402: Liron Kayvan: The Truth about Plant-Based Diets + Is Creatine Crucial for Aging?
Yes. But let me finish what I was going to say. I was going to say that if muscle is the main driver for longevity and for aging well, right? And you need to keep muscle on. And as you get older, it's harder and harder and harder. You're depleting and you're losing so much muscle. How much is it a year just by overall age, right?
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Episode 402: Liron Kayvan: The Truth about Plant-Based Diets + Is Creatine Crucial for Aging?
So the problem is how do you keep it on? What's the easiest way to keep it on? Besides heavy weightlifting, you've got to lift weights heavy and you've got to eat a lot of protein. A fuck ton of protein. Creatine is very good for aging too.
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Episode 436: Tara LaFerrara: Why Strength Training Beats Cardio for Women's Long-Term Health
Hi guys, it's Tony Robbins. You're listening to Habits & Hustle. Crush it! Hey friends, you're listening to Fitness Friday on the Habits & Hustle podcast, where myself and my friends share quick and very actionable advice for you becoming your healthiest self. So stay tuned and let me know how you leveled up. Okay, what's your opinion? I know it already.
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Episode 436: Tara LaFerrara: Why Strength Training Beats Cardio for Women's Long-Term Health
not just me when people do really intense cardio they tend to eat a lot more so how do you how do you kind of rectify this problem right like don't do cardio so they won't eat as much because that's what happens too if i don't do my cardio i definitely won't eat as much i won't be as hungry yeah i think this is twofold the first thing is with cardio are you doing it because you truly enjoy it or are you doing it because you're more chasing the sweat chasing the sweat
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Episode 436: Tara LaFerrara: Why Strength Training Beats Cardio for Women's Long-Term Health
And like I said, it's also better for my brain. Because when I do strength training without doing cardio, I don't sweat very much, like maybe a little bit. And my brain doesn't get activated. I'm not as sharp afterwards. I'll be better if I didn't do anything. But to me, the combo of doing cardio plus strength training in the same workout is like the king.
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Episode 436: Tara LaFerrara: Why Strength Training Beats Cardio for Women's Long-Term Health
When I have to choose one or the other, even though I know intellectually strength training is better for me in terms of my body composition, if I only have time for one, I'll always go with cardio because I know... that I'll make better choices during the day because of it. A lot of times, I'll eat healthier food because my brain is activated better. My mood is so much better.
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Episode 436: Tara LaFerrara: Why Strength Training Beats Cardio for Women's Long-Term Health
My energy levels are so much better. Yes, I'll eat 20 times more, but it'll be healthy food. But it's more for all the mental health issues with it.
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Episode 436: Tara LaFerrara: Why Strength Training Beats Cardio for Women's Long-Term Health
Yes, I do that all the time too. So I, yes, but like I don't do the high intensity cardio like I used to because I also think it like ruins your adrenals. And my cortisol level goes sky high. So again, it's like everybody's different. And then I end up eating way more. So for me, moderate cardio, like moderate pace, I should say, works the best.
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Episode 436: Tara LaFerrara: Why Strength Training Beats Cardio for Women's Long-Term Health
It's so hard though, right? Like we, I think a lot of us know, a lot of women know this already, right? Like people have been talking about the muscle is like the, it's how you stay healthy for as long as possible. Strike training is the king. We all know it. intellectually.
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Episode 436: Tara LaFerrara: Why Strength Training Beats Cardio for Women's Long-Term Health
How do you and how do we switch our brains to actually basically execute on that and kind of like steer away from the cardio?
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Episode 436: Tara LaFerrara: Why Strength Training Beats Cardio for Women's Long-Term Health
I switched from one type of recording system to another for my podcast. I mean, and I hated it and it's like very uncomfortable. It's annoying.
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Episode 436: Tara LaFerrara: Why Strength Training Beats Cardio for Women's Long-Term Health
You don't even have to tell me, but I'm going to ask you anyway. Cardio versus strength training for women.
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Episode 436: Tara LaFerrara: Why Strength Training Beats Cardio for Women's Long-Term Health
And then what happened? Did you just shift it because you knew better or that you learned more, you got more educated? What was the reason?
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Episode 436: Tara LaFerrara: Why Strength Training Beats Cardio for Women's Long-Term Health
I know. People say that to me all the time. And I've seen it. I've seen results where the cardio body versus the weight training body, so different. Like the cardio body is like kind of like flabby and like skinny soft. And the person who just does weights and kind of stays away from cardio, honestly, is like really different. like toned and fit looking and athletic looking.
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Episode 436: Tara LaFerrara: Why Strength Training Beats Cardio for Women's Long-Term Health
Just in terms of just like, if we're just talking vanity, it just is so much better.
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Episode 436: Tara LaFerrara: Why Strength Training Beats Cardio for Women's Long-Term Health
Yeah, that's a great reason, by the way. Do you take supplements? Do you believe in supplements? Which ones do you, if you do, which ones are you super into?
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Episode 436: Tara LaFerrara: Why Strength Training Beats Cardio for Women's Long-Term Health
So creatine is an interesting one, right? Because creatine, everyone knows creatine as kind of like a male supplement. But it's the most researched supplement on the planet. And the research I've seen is incredible for your cognitive benefits that you're getting with creatine. But women are still very frightened of taking it.
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Episode 436: Tara LaFerrara: Why Strength Training Beats Cardio for Women's Long-Term Health
And, you know, the truth is like it kind of could bloat you if you take too much because that's one of the complaints. Do you not find that happens with you?
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Episode 436: Tara LaFerrara: Why Strength Training Beats Cardio for Women's Long-Term Health
And what have you seen the benefits of creatine, of you taking creatine have done?
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Episode 436: Tara LaFerrara: Why Strength Training Beats Cardio for Women's Long-Term Health
Really? Yeah. How about magnesium for sleep?
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Episode 436: Tara LaFerrara: Why Strength Training Beats Cardio for Women's Long-Term Health
So in terms of protein, are you a protein shake person or are you more of an animal protein? What's your take on that? Protein?
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Episode 436: Tara LaFerrara: Why Strength Training Beats Cardio for Women's Long-Term Health
But the other thing about, well, the thing with me with cardio is I feel better after I do cardio because you sweat more. Also for my cognitive, for your mental health, for your brain to like, for my brain to like really kind of activate, I need to do cardio.
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Episode 436: Tara LaFerrara: Why Strength Training Beats Cardio for Women's Long-Term Health
The downside of doing cardio is that I get so hungry and I end up eating triple the calories that I would otherwise not have had because of the amount of calories burned, right? So there's like this like weird balance that you have to do, right? Like you have to constantly balance out. Like if I do really intense cardio, right?
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Episode 428: Kris Gethin: Biohacking Myths, Stem Cell Therapy + The Truth About Cardio
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Episode 428: Kris Gethin: Biohacking Myths, Stem Cell Therapy + The Truth About Cardio
Wow. Yeah, I know a doctor. His name is Dr. Adil Khan. He does it out of Cabo. Yes, I know. Do you know him?
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Episode 428: Kris Gethin: Biohacking Myths, Stem Cell Therapy + The Truth About Cardio
Exactly, exactly. Does he use the same stem cells as the ones that you were just talking about?
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Episode 428: Kris Gethin: Biohacking Myths, Stem Cell Therapy + The Truth About Cardio
He called them mu cells.
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Episode 428: Kris Gethin: Biohacking Myths, Stem Cell Therapy + The Truth About Cardio
It is different. Okay. So you're saying that would be the one that's the most underrated, right?
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Episode 428: Kris Gethin: Biohacking Myths, Stem Cell Therapy + The Truth About Cardio
Oh, wow. So for three months, you're like incapacitated to do anything in that space. Oh, wow.
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Episode 428: Kris Gethin: Biohacking Myths, Stem Cell Therapy + The Truth About Cardio
So this is actually, I think, the real, the first or second time, I think at Darshan's, we actually met more formally. But, you know, this is our second formally, you know, meeting each other. So thank you for being on the podcast.
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Episode 428: Kris Gethin: Biohacking Myths, Stem Cell Therapy + The Truth About Cardio
Oh, absolutely. So, you know, what's interesting about you is that you do like a whole plethora of different fitness modalities. You know, you do the ultra marathons, you do the iron marathons, you do the bodybuilding, which is so interesting because typically you meet people who are in the fitness business or who are either or. They either do the endurance or they do the bodybuilding.
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Episode 428: Kris Gethin: Biohacking Myths, Stem Cell Therapy + The Truth About Cardio
You're like this hybrid that's very unique.
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Episode 428: Kris Gethin: Biohacking Myths, Stem Cell Therapy + The Truth About Cardio
Yeah, right. You know, it's funny that you're saying this because, you know, I think one of the biggest myths out there is that too much cardio, or maybe it's not a myth, you tell me, I think you're living proof of it, that if you do too much cardio, it breaks down all your muscle. And so, you know, that's why you see a lot of runners who are kind of like skinny, fat, flabby.
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Episode 428: Kris Gethin: Biohacking Myths, Stem Cell Therapy + The Truth About Cardio
But you're kind of like the antithesis of that, right? You're like super muscular and yet you're doing like 100 mile runs. So I'm going to bring it back to you. Is it, in your opinion, a myth that cardio does break down too much muscle?
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Episode 428: Kris Gethin: Biohacking Myths, Stem Cell Therapy + The Truth About Cardio
So are you saying that the reason why people break down muscle when they're doing too much cardio is because they're not looking at their nutrition, they're not eating appropriately?
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Episode 428: Kris Gethin: Biohacking Myths, Stem Cell Therapy + The Truth About Cardio
Right. So because you also, when you were bodybuilding, you were doing it naturally, right? You weren't taking anything at all, right? And so how would I word this? What is, in your opinion, the best way to, to be lean, muscular, naturally? Like, what are the steps that people can take, especially as they age, right?
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Episode 428: Kris Gethin: Biohacking Myths, Stem Cell Therapy + The Truth About Cardio
Besides eating enough, I mean, besides protein intake, give me the step-by-step protocol to be lean, fit, and, you know, strong.
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Episode 428: Kris Gethin: Biohacking Myths, Stem Cell Therapy + The Truth About Cardio
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Episode 428: Kris Gethin: Biohacking Myths, Stem Cell Therapy + The Truth About Cardio
Oh my God, you said so much. There are like a million questions. So you're saying one of the best ways to lower your insulin is taking a cold bath or a cold plunge first thing in the morning.
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Episode 428: Kris Gethin: Biohacking Myths, Stem Cell Therapy + The Truth About Cardio
What do you think is the most overrated biohacking modality out there right now?
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Episode 428: Kris Gethin: Biohacking Myths, Stem Cell Therapy + The Truth About Cardio
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Episode 428: Kris Gethin: Biohacking Myths, Stem Cell Therapy + The Truth About Cardio
No, and I agree with you. I think everything has become like more is not more. You know what I mean? Like less is still more. And I think you're right. When I go to these biohacking conferences, it's like you're not seeing the athletic crowd, right?
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Episode 428: Kris Gethin: Biohacking Myths, Stem Cell Therapy + The Truth About Cardio
You're seeing people who have a lot of extra disposable income and they're looking for sometimes the magic bullet or the easy way out to even reverse your biological age, right? What would you say is the most underrated biohacking modality?
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Episode 428: Kris Gethin: Biohacking Myths, Stem Cell Therapy + The Truth About Cardio
Not really. No. Give me another. No.
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Episode 428: Kris Gethin: Biohacking Myths, Stem Cell Therapy + The Truth About Cardio
I was going to say, where are you going to get your stem cells and what kind are you using? And the other part of the question is, why are you getting them every two years? Do they only last you two years and then you have to redo it again? That seems like an expensive modality just to do, you know, if you have to keep on doing it over and over again so quickly.
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Episode 428: Kris Gethin: Biohacking Myths, Stem Cell Therapy + The Truth About Cardio
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Episode 410: Robert Greene: Are Great Observers Born or Made? The Nature vs Nurture of Empathy
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Episode 410: Robert Greene: Are Great Observers Born or Made? The Nature vs Nurture of Empathy
Right. I mean, I guess what I was saying that you already had a natural inclination and interest, right? So it starts with a kernel of interest and curiosity and maybe you were naturally better at it than some. But I think what you're saying, and I tend to agree, is that anything you put attention to, you can get better at. Right.
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Episode 410: Robert Greene: Are Great Observers Born or Made? The Nature vs Nurture of Empathy
But it's putting attention towards it and practicing it over and over again. Right. And you were saying kind of like, I mean, your whole book about, well, not the whole book, but a lot of what your book talks about, there's a few different things, but is being self-aware, right?
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Episode 410: Robert Greene: Are Great Observers Born or Made? The Nature vs Nurture of Empathy
Understanding where you came from, because where you came from, it's a good point to know why you are the way you are and having that type of self-awareness. How does someone who doesn't have that natural inclination understand
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Episode 410: Robert Greene: Are Great Observers Born or Made? The Nature vs Nurture of Empathy
Do you think that there are people who are just maybe, you said you were always really good at giving advice. There are people that are more innately, just more tuned in and keyed into to that type of thing. Like, I mean, there are people who are good to talk to because they're much more self-aware and they're much more empathetic. And so there is that element.
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Episode 410: Robert Greene: Are Great Observers Born or Made? The Nature vs Nurture of Empathy
I hope so.
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Episode 410: Robert Greene: Are Great Observers Born or Made? The Nature vs Nurture of Empathy
Like you naturally, obviously were that one of those people that it kind of, you came by it honestly, so to speak, right?
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Episode 410: Robert Greene: Are Great Observers Born or Made? The Nature vs Nurture of Empathy
Right. And that's why I think the first step is, like you said, ask yourself the question. take a pause and say, why am I doing what I'm doing? What is the reason behind this? Like that initial, I think that even that initial moment of, or that second of pause makes you maybe retrain your brain to think a little bit, right?
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Episode 444: The GLP-1 Triple Threat: Maximizing Benefits with Hormones, Strength Training, and Proper Dosing
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Honestly, it could be anybody at this point. It could be Anne over here who turned off your Instagram.
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Episode 444: The GLP-1 Triple Threat: Maximizing Benefits with Hormones, Strength Training, and Proper Dosing
It shuts off the noise in your brain. That's what I've heard.
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Episode 444: The GLP-1 Triple Threat: Maximizing Benefits with Hormones, Strength Training, and Proper Dosing
It shuts off the noise. So all these things that are your vices or your addictions, because food can be a massive addiction, right? Just how alcohol or drugs. And if it's shutting – it quiets your brain, actually, it can really save somebody's, like, mental health in that way itself.
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Episode 444: The GLP-1 Triple Threat: Maximizing Benefits with Hormones, Strength Training, and Proper Dosing
Right? My only thing I'm curious about is can your body become acclimated? And then, like – because I've also seen friends of mine – who it was great. And then after now six months of using it, they're eating again how they used to eat. Not because they're necessary. It's habitual. Because eventually you go back to your habits of what you used to do, right?
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Episode 444: The GLP-1 Triple Threat: Maximizing Benefits with Hormones, Strength Training, and Proper Dosing
Yeah.
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Episode 444: The GLP-1 Triple Threat: Maximizing Benefits with Hormones, Strength Training, and Proper Dosing
It's dosing and management. Yeah, I think so. Then let's talk about, you were saying... Middle age, right? Like you're saying, like, how can we use the GLP-1s to really maximize what's happening in perimetopause or even menopause for people who are going through that? I know we kind of mentioned with Dr. Mary that study.
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Episode 444: The GLP-1 Triple Threat: Maximizing Benefits with Hormones, Strength Training, and Proper Dosing
Are there any other tips and tricks or things that we can do, in your opinion, to really kind of get us the biggest bang for our buck?
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Episode 444: The GLP-1 Triple Threat: Maximizing Benefits with Hormones, Strength Training, and Proper Dosing
In this Fitness Friday episode of Habits & Hustle, I sit down with Dr. Tina Moore to break down the truth about GLP-1 medications and the hype surrounding them. Dr. Tina is an expert in holistic regenerative medicine. She shares why these drugs are more than just weight loss tools and how the conversation around them has become very polarizing.
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Episode 444: The GLP-1 Triple Threat: Maximizing Benefits with Hormones, Strength Training, and Proper Dosing
Just by waiting too long to start taking it.
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Episode 444: The GLP-1 Triple Threat: Maximizing Benefits with Hormones, Strength Training, and Proper Dosing
This is a short clip from our full interview where you can find the full episode linked in the show notes below. Please listen and comment with anything you'd like. Enjoy the episode. Yeah. I mean, the other thing is, like, how do you maximize the benefits, right?
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Episode 444: The GLP-1 Triple Threat: Maximizing Benefits with Hormones, Strength Training, and Proper Dosing
Hey friends, you're listening to Fitness Friday on the Habits and Hustle podcast, where myself and my friends share quick and very actionable advice for you becoming your healthiest self. So stay tuned and let me know how you leveled up. Are there hidden benefits to GLP-1s that the FDA just isn't talking about?
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Episode 444: The GLP-1 Triple Threat: Maximizing Benefits with Hormones, Strength Training, and Proper Dosing
Wow. So what about when people are starting to play around, like they take the testosterone but not the estrogen?
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Episode 444: The GLP-1 Triple Threat: Maximizing Benefits with Hormones, Strength Training, and Proper Dosing
You know what I'm getting from this podcast from you is that it can be very complicated and overwhelming. And it's really important to have somebody who you trust, who knows what the hell they're talking about, who you work with. Because I think there's so much information and that's like really, it's like information overload. It's a lot. Right?
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Episode 444: The GLP-1 Triple Threat: Maximizing Benefits with Hormones, Strength Training, and Proper Dosing
Because I'll talk to you and I'm like, okay, this sounds great. And then left to my own devices, I'm confused. And then I'll go to my doctor who's like, let's say a regular gynecologist. And she's like, what are you talking about? Your testosterone is fine or your estrogen is fine. And then they won't be able to properly balance me. Then I'll try to find someone like you.
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Episode 444: The GLP-1 Triple Threat: Maximizing Benefits with Hormones, Strength Training, and Proper Dosing
And more often than not, and you can be honest- you won't take me like, maybe you'll take me as a patient, but like the ones who seem to know the most are not taking patients. I'm not taking patients anymore. You're not taking patients because you're too busy writing books and doing the media tours and going on the podcast.
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Episode 444: The GLP-1 Triple Threat: Maximizing Benefits with Hormones, Strength Training, and Proper Dosing
Like, if you're just doing all the lifestyle things that we spoke about, like strength training, eating the amount of protein you should be eating daily, microdosing it or taking a dose that just kind of, like, helps you. Like, don't overdose.
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Episode 444: The GLP-1 Triple Threat: Maximizing Benefits with Hormones, Strength Training, and Proper Dosing
And then like all the people who have all the knowledge or who are the, who are really good are like too big to they're, they're, they're now like media personalities. They're not taking patients.
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Episode 444: The GLP-1 Triple Threat: Maximizing Benefits with Hormones, Strength Training, and Proper Dosing
It's like a shitty situation that it leaves people in. Like, what are people supposed to do? We're left with like these mediocre doctors who don't know what the hell they're doing because people like you are too busy doing media.
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Episode 444: The GLP-1 Triple Threat: Maximizing Benefits with Hormones, Strength Training, and Proper Dosing
What other ways are we able to maximize the benefits so we see the returns long-term?
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Episode 418: Dr. Jason Fung: Why Calories Are Not the Key to Weight Loss
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Episode 418: Dr. Jason Fung: Why Calories Are Not the Key to Weight Loss
Can you just kind of talk about that a little bit more?
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Episode 418: Dr. Jason Fung: Why Calories Are Not the Key to Weight Loss
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Episode 418: Dr. Jason Fung: Why Calories Are Not the Key to Weight Loss
I have two questions. Is that why when people are in their, when they hit middle age or over 40, they tend to have more body fat? It's because, you know, a lot of times your hormones are changing and you have, it's all about the hormones and they're gaining a lot of weight in their midsection. And what they try to do to offset it is eat less. But they're still not losing that body fat, right?
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Episode 418: Dr. Jason Fung: Why Calories Are Not the Key to Weight Loss
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Episode 418: Dr. Jason Fung: Why Calories Are Not the Key to Weight Loss
So there's a couple... You said a bunch of stuff that I very much want to ask you about. So... The first part of this is, is it because your body, it's what your body does with that particular calorie, right? Because you can have a bunch of cookies, 100 calories of cookies versus 100 calories of broccoli. Your body metabolizes it different. So there's a couple things.
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Episode 418: Dr. Jason Fung: Why Calories Are Not the Key to Weight Loss
So I heard you say that, so the trick, by the way, is to, not the trick, the thing is to keep your insulin leveled, right? Not to spike your insulin. So are you saying that like cookies, processed food, of course, sugar, all of those things are obviously spiking your insulin.
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Episode 418: Dr. Jason Fung: Why Calories Are Not the Key to Weight Loss
But I think I heard you say on someone's podcast or even in your book, maybe that protein can even spike your insulin, which is something that I've never heard anybody say before. Is that like, how is that possible?
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Episode 418: Dr. Jason Fung: Why Calories Are Not the Key to Weight Loss
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Episode 400: Bonus: When defeat becomes a blessing in disguise
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Episode 434: Tara LaFerrara: How to Build Glutes, Time-Wasting Exercises and the Truth about Belly Fat
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Episode 434: Tara LaFerrara: How to Build Glutes, Time-Wasting Exercises and the Truth about Belly Fat
Yeah. 100%.
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Episode 434: Tara LaFerrara: How to Build Glutes, Time-Wasting Exercises and the Truth about Belly Fat
Can I ask you a question? How about a deadlift? Before I even go into the next question, what's your opinion on deadlifts? A lot of people think deadlifts are garbage. They're like an unnecessary lower body move. What is your opinion?
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Episode 434: Tara LaFerrara: How to Build Glutes, Time-Wasting Exercises and the Truth about Belly Fat
You love deadlifts. Okay. Can you tell, just like, just to kind of break it down in the most simplest terms, what can someone get from a squat, from a hip thrust and from a deadlift? What are the differences and what are the benefits of each?
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Episode 434: Tara LaFerrara: How to Build Glutes, Time-Wasting Exercises and the Truth about Belly Fat
Totally agree. I mean, the same way. I hate doing it for us. It takes way too long to even get set up. Yeah.
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Episode 434: Tara LaFerrara: How to Build Glutes, Time-Wasting Exercises and the Truth about Belly Fat
So can we just talk about what are some what exercises would you say? And I know let's just say this before we even go any further, like no exercise is a waste of time because movement is so important regardless. But with that caveat, what are some exercises that you think are kind of like a waste of time?
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Episode 434: Tara LaFerrara: How to Build Glutes, Time-Wasting Exercises and the Truth about Belly Fat
Tara, thank you so much for like, you know, stay, you know, kind of like bearing with us. I appreciate you being here. And, you know, hopefully we get this. It works. It's recorded. You guys are listening to this properly. Tara's with me because she's a strength and mobility coach. And we're going to be doing a quick fitness Friday with you. And Tara, it's nice to have you here.
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Episode 434: Tara LaFerrara: How to Build Glutes, Time-Wasting Exercises and the Truth about Belly Fat
Yeah, you're speaking my language. What about abs? I get so many questions about abs, especially as you age, I should say. You know, when I was younger, it was more like, how do you get a six pack? How do you get a six pack? And now it's more like, how do I kind of just eliminate the belly fat that's accumulating in my midsection? I always say personally that abs are always made in the kitchen.
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Episode 434: Tara LaFerrara: How to Build Glutes, Time-Wasting Exercises and the Truth about Belly Fat
It's not made in the gym. But with that also being said, are there specific things that people can do to target abs? their belly fat to get the most bang for their buck in the gym?
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Episode 434: Tara LaFerrara: How to Build Glutes, Time-Wasting Exercises and the Truth about Belly Fat
Yeah. You know, it's funny because like a lot of people think that like they're going to do their five minutes of abs or 10 minutes of abs. I think it's so much more beneficial to take those five or 10 minutes and go for actually a walk or do like, or just do like dumbbell, like doing lunges with your dumbbells because you have to work your stability muscles.
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Episode 434: Tara LaFerrara: How to Build Glutes, Time-Wasting Exercises and the Truth about Belly Fat
Just the sheer act of just moving more, more muscle groups at once. But yet, psychologically, women are working out wrong. We still are in this mindset that we should be doing these bicycle crunches or doing certain aerobic exercises or cardio exercises. When lifting heavy has been proven time and time again, all the research has shown that's how you change your body composition.
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Episode 434: Tara LaFerrara: How to Build Glutes, Time-Wasting Exercises and the Truth about Belly Fat
Don't you, like, do you find that, like, what is your, what do you tell like your women clients? Like, do you find that happens all the time? Like there's so, if people are, the women are fearful of lifting weights.
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Episode 434: Tara LaFerrara: How to Build Glutes, Time-Wasting Exercises and the Truth about Belly Fat
Yeah, I know.
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Thank you so much for having me.
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Episode 434: Tara LaFerrara: How to Build Glutes, Time-Wasting Exercises and the Truth about Belly Fat
Yeah. How do you know if you're lifting heavy enough?
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Episode 434: Tara LaFerrara: How to Build Glutes, Time-Wasting Exercises and the Truth about Belly Fat
Thank you for being here. And like I said, thank you for like kind of bearing with our new struggles with technology, which, by the way, is always a problem with me. It's actually a user. I have to say it's probably half of it's like just a user. But anyway. Um, it's tech. It's fine. It's tech. Exactly. Okay. I want to start, I have to, I want to ask you about glutes right off the bat here. Okay.
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Episode 434: Tara LaFerrara: How to Build Glutes, Time-Wasting Exercises and the Truth about Belly Fat
So how do you know if you should be doing six reps or 12 reps?
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Episode 434: Tara LaFerrara: How to Build Glutes, Time-Wasting Exercises and the Truth about Belly Fat
Or, you know what, honestly, like in my opinion, it would be, and this is of course my opinion, I think you do all of it. You do sometimes six reps, you do sometimes eight reps, you do sometimes 12 reps because that's how you kind of get that muscle confusion. If you're doing the same amount of reps or the same amount of weight over and over again, you're never going to see any different results.
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Episode 434: Tara LaFerrara: How to Build Glutes, Time-Wasting Exercises and the Truth about Belly Fat
It's going to be, you're going to basically just either your body gets very acclimated and then nothing happens after that.
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Episode 434: Tara LaFerrara: How to Build Glutes, Time-Wasting Exercises and the Truth about Belly Fat
Well, wait, wait, talk about that. Cause I was going to ask you about progressive overload. Cause I think people like, I always say the word, I can never pronounce the word. Oh, hypertrophy? Yeah, yes. My lips can't say it. Say it again. Hypertrophy? Yes, which is basically progressive overload, which they say is the best type of training. Can you explain what that is and...
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Episode 434: Tara LaFerrara: How to Build Glutes, Time-Wasting Exercises and the Truth about Belly Fat
how it works with reps and how it works with weight.
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Episode 434: Tara LaFerrara: How to Build Glutes, Time-Wasting Exercises and the Truth about Belly Fat
Cause me, we taught, I mean, my fitness friends, uh, talk about this all the time and I want to know your, your opinion. What is your opinion? Hip thrust versus a glute versus squats to build your glutes.
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Episode 434: Tara LaFerrara: How to Build Glutes, Time-Wasting Exercises and the Truth about Belly Fat
Right. So let's go back to this whole about muscle confusion, though, because that's what I was initially like, you know, sometimes in my training, I'll do like one for a while for a few weeks, I'll do like low reps, and then another week, I'll do high reps. And a couple days, I'll do like middle, just so my body's not getting used to it. Would you say that?
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Episode 434: Tara LaFerrara: How to Build Glutes, Time-Wasting Exercises and the Truth about Belly Fat
Would you recommend that for somebody so they don't plateau? Or what do you tell people? Like, how do you break a plateau and how do you tell people how they will not plateau?
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100%.
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Episode 434: Tara LaFerrara: How to Build Glutes, Time-Wasting Exercises and the Truth about Belly Fat
And it's not reinventing the wheel. The funny thing is, especially on social media, right? Like people like are trying to like be as gimmicky as possible. And the reality is the things that actually move the needle and work are the basics, like the boring, boring basics. You know, when I look at the people who have the best bodies, it's because they're doing
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Episode 434: Tara LaFerrara: How to Build Glutes, Time-Wasting Exercises and the Truth about Belly Fat
The push, the pull, you know what I mean? Like, they're doing the basic. They're doing the squat. They're doing the push-up. They're doing the pull-up. You know what I mean? It's not like all these kooky gimmicks with these kooky things. That gets you really, like, it just wastes a whole lot of time.
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Episode 434: Tara LaFerrara: How to Build Glutes, Time-Wasting Exercises and the Truth about Belly Fat
It's very hard. I agree with you. It's very overwhelming. And if you don't know what you don't know. Yeah. But like even me, right, who's been doing this for 150 years, right? Like I scroll social media and I'm like, oh, you know, like, oh, maybe I should try this because people could be great salespeople, right? Like it's so convincing. Yeah. 100%.
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Episode 434: Tara LaFerrara: How to Build Glutes, Time-Wasting Exercises and the Truth about Belly Fat
And you're like, oh, maybe this is the panacea that I didn't know about, right? But it takes you down this whole path. But again, when I stick to the most boring shit, that's when I get the best results.
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Episode 426: Liron Kayvan: The Top 5 Ways to Lose the Last 5 Lbs
Hi guys, it's Tony Robbins. You're listening to Habits & Hustle. Crush it! Hey friends, you're listening to Fitness Friday on the Habits & Hustle podcast, where myself and my friends share quick and very actionable advice for you becoming your healthiest self. So stay tuned and let me know how you leveled up. Before we dive into today's episode, I want to thank our sponsor, Momentus.
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Episode 426: Liron Kayvan: The Top 5 Ways to Lose the Last 5 Lbs
Welcome to another Fitness Friday with my friend Leron. Thank you for being here, Leron. Thank you. This is going to be a really speedy, fast episode on five pounds because how often do people say to themselves, if I can just lose five pounds, the last five pounds. So we want to sit here and do a really quick episode on the five top ways that That will help you lose that last five pounds.
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Episode 426: Liron Kayvan: The Top 5 Ways to Lose the Last 5 Lbs
Okay. My first top tip is tracking everything you eat because it's calories in versus calories out. As much as people don't want to believe this controversy, it really is about nutrition, right? Like nutrition is going to be the 80-20 rule. You can work out all day, but if you're not... If you're not watching what you're intaking, you know, in the kitchen, you're going to be in trouble.
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Episode 426: Liron Kayvan: The Top 5 Ways to Lose the Last 5 Lbs
So really track everything you're eating so you know how much it is. It's very different than eyeballing. And that is a very big thing that can move the needle a lot.
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Episode 426: Liron Kayvan: The Top 5 Ways to Lose the Last 5 Lbs
Oh, okay. We can do that. Okay. The other thing I think is really important is portions. Again, it's kind of in the same vein as in the nutrition vein, which is watching your portions, tracking what you're eating. The third thing is really not eating too little. I think eating too little is where a lot of people make mistakes because they actually end up eating more later on because...
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Episode 426: Liron Kayvan: The Top 5 Ways to Lose the Last 5 Lbs
your willpower and your discipline ends up flailing when you get really hungry and when your body is deficient in nutrients. So if you are somebody who thinks that if you eat less, that's going to actually help you lose weight in the long term, in the long run, that actually works against you. Eating foods that are highly dense in nutrients, though, like I'm saying for breakfast, for
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Episode 426: Liron Kayvan: The Top 5 Ways to Lose the Last 5 Lbs
So for me, one of the ways that when I need to kind of like rein it in, I always eat breakfast, but I eat protein for breakfast. And that protein, that protein first thing in the morning really helps me with my satiation throughout the day. When I'm not eating protein first thing in the morning, almost always I end up eating way more, way more calories, way more bad stuff.
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Episode 426: Liron Kayvan: The Top 5 Ways to Lose the Last 5 Lbs
down the road because I'm starving. So that little thing, wait, can I finish it? That little thing of eating protein first thing really helps me out. So I eat eggs. I'll have a protein shake if I'm on the go. It makes a big difference. And then one more thing. Am I allowed to?
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Episode 426: Liron Kayvan: The Top 5 Ways to Lose the Last 5 Lbs
Sleep to me is a game changer.
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Episode 426: Liron Kayvan: The Top 5 Ways to Lose the Last 5 Lbs
For so many reasons. It regulates my hormones, regulates your hormones, not just my hormones. It regulates hormones. That's a big one. It also helps me with how much I consume, again, food-wise throughout the day.
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Episode 426: Liron Kayvan: The Top 5 Ways to Lose the Last 5 Lbs
Right? When I don't sleep properly, without question, I will eat way more bad shit for myself. And more food, right? Because my inhibitions are less. I'm crankier. I need that sugar. I need that savory. So I'll eat things that are just naturally not as good for me. Makes a big difference. So are those five? That's five. Okay. Those are my five. Yeah.
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Episode 426: Liron Kayvan: The Top 5 Ways to Lose the Last 5 Lbs
Oh, that's a good one too. Yeah, that's a good one. Well, how long? Give me some more details.
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Episode 426: Liron Kayvan: The Top 5 Ways to Lose the Last 5 Lbs
Oh, I thought that 10,000 steps was kind of arbitrary, but I do believe- People don't do it.
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Episode 426: Liron Kayvan: The Top 5 Ways to Lose the Last 5 Lbs
That's a good one though too.
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Episode 426: Liron Kayvan: The Top 5 Ways to Lose the Last 5 Lbs
Yeah, it's all the basics, but yeah.
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Episode 426: Liron Kayvan: The Top 5 Ways to Lose the Last 5 Lbs
I'm going to have six, which is I'm adding walking to mine.
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Episode 426: Liron Kayvan: The Top 5 Ways to Lose the Last 5 Lbs
Walking is a big one, actually. That's a big one. Okay, go on. I'm going to add walking, but if you can add a weighted vest to that walk, it amps up the calories you burn, but it's great for your bone density, great for extra resistance. There's so many added benefits. I love walking with a weighted vest. Yeah. I also like you can multitask. I do a lot of my work calls while I'm walking.
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Episode 426: Liron Kayvan: The Top 5 Ways to Lose the Last 5 Lbs
Super easy and good. Okay, go on.
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Episode 426: Liron Kayvan: The Top 5 Ways to Lose the Last 5 Lbs
I love that. Okay. By the way, I'm a big believer in that. Like, you know, heavy load the earlier day with most of your calories and then light loaded at night. It's better for your digestion too, right? I agree. You know what I think is a great little tip that I kind of forgot? When I have to lean out, a really good trick that I do is I sip on bone broth during the day.
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Episode 426: Liron Kayvan: The Top 5 Ways to Lose the Last 5 Lbs
Because it's super nutrient-dense. It's super nutrient-dense. So I don't feel like I'm- I made Barley Bath yesterday.
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Episode 426: Liron Kayvan: The Top 5 Ways to Lose the Last 5 Lbs
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See, I think it's so nutrient-dense. It's so good for you.
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Episode 426: Liron Kayvan: The Top 5 Ways to Lose the Last 5 Lbs
also you'll never get sick you will never if you're having bone broth on a daily you will never get sick covid nothing will get you and it fills you it makes you it it if you feel full so like i sometimes just i sip on that during the day like i'll have like a couple bowls of that and it will i'll i'll eat less because of it but yet i'm still having those nutrients that i think are so important and i think it's been a really a big game changer when i need to
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Episode 426: Liron Kayvan: The Top 5 Ways to Lose the Last 5 Lbs
That's what I'm saying, but that's something like that was, I'm going to add that on to my nutrient density.
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Episode 426: Liron Kayvan: The Top 5 Ways to Lose the Last 5 Lbs
Yeah. I mean, listen, I still need to eat actual food. But it definitely, it lessens the amount of food that I'm all savage on. See, someone like me, I should say, if you're someone who has a massive appetite like I do, and when you work out a lot, I have a massive appetite, I try to eat volume, right? Like volume is really important to me.
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Episode 426: Liron Kayvan: The Top 5 Ways to Lose the Last 5 Lbs
So what can I eat that has a lot of volume that's like kind of voluminous that is not going to crush me on the calories?
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Episode 426: Liron Kayvan: The Top 5 Ways to Lose the Last 5 Lbs
Right. But also give me the nutrients. So high on that nutrient dense, but has volume that fills me up so I don't go crazy.
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Episode 426: Liron Kayvan: The Top 5 Ways to Lose the Last 5 Lbs
I'm going to add one more tip, okay? Because I think this is really important.
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Episode 426: Liron Kayvan: The Top 5 Ways to Lose the Last 5 Lbs
Try to exercise first thing in the morning, and I'll tell you why. Not just because of the exercise, because it sets you off. You're setting yourself off, or basically that first accomplishment that you did will set you up for success the rest of the day.
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Episode 426: Liron Kayvan: The Top 5 Ways to Lose the Last 5 Lbs
Yeah, so you have a big win. first thing in the morning, let's say, you're more likely to stay on track and do things that will be good for you to get to your goal, then that's bad for you. So like when I'm working out first in the morning, number one, it gets my mind right. It gets my focus right. It makes me more productive for the rest of the day.
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Episode 426: Liron Kayvan: The Top 5 Ways to Lose the Last 5 Lbs
It energizes me and I'll make better decisions the rest of the day because I already had that big win and I don't want to ruin it, so to speak. So exercising as close to the beginning of the day as possible, so important.
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Episode 426: Liron Kayvan: The Top 5 Ways to Lose the Last 5 Lbs
All right, guys, that's it for today. I think that was a quick episode. If you guys have any other amazing tips, let us know and we will include them.
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Episode 426: Liron Kayvan: The Top 5 Ways to Lose the Last 5 Lbs
All right, guys, have a good one.
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Episode 426: Liron Kayvan: The Top 5 Ways to Lose the Last 5 Lbs
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Episode 442: The Truth About GLP-1s and Peptides for Weight Loss
If you want to make fiber a part of your daily routine, and I suggest you do, head to bio.me and use code Jennifer20 for 20% off your first order. That's B-I-O.me. and code Jennifer20 for 20% off. Now let's dive into today's episode. Are you telling me that GLP-1 and, let's say, a semoralin peptide, they're not the same peptide, but they're both in the same class? They're both peptides?
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Episode 442: The Truth About GLP-1s and Peptides for Weight Loss
And so semoralin, you said, so when would someone take semoralin?
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Episode 442: The Truth About GLP-1s and Peptides for Weight Loss
She shares why these drugs are more than just weight loss tools and how the conversation around them has become very polarizing. This is a short clip from our full interview where you can find the full episode linked in the show notes below. Please listen and comment with anything you like. Enjoy the episode. Before we jump into today's interview, a quick word from our sponsor, BioMe.
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Episode 442: The Truth About GLP-1s and Peptides for Weight Loss
But I think this is what people are doing. They're going just on testosterone and or the samoralin. The reason why I'm asking about samoralin was I've heard a lot of people are prescribed samoralin in my world. You said another one, tree samoralin. Tessamoralin. Are they different also?
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Episode 442: The Truth About GLP-1s and Peptides for Weight Loss
Most people – and I feel like it doesn't work for some people. It works for other people. Is that with every peptide? But then GLP-1 seems to work for everybody.
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Episode 442: The Truth About GLP-1s and Peptides for Weight Loss
Are you talking about GLP-1? Yeah, if you... I'm talking about the semoralin and the other one.
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Episode 442: The Truth About GLP-1s and Peptides for Weight Loss
Can you take too many? Can you take, if someone's taking the testosterone, the semoralin, or do people take semoralin instead of testosterone? Or like, my question is like, if someone wants to like change their body composition, I'm going to ask the most basic one that most people want to know about. They want to like get lean, lose weight, change their body composition.
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Episode 442: The Truth About GLP-1s and Peptides for Weight Loss
What would be the cocktail that you would prescribe?
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Episode 442: The Truth About GLP-1s and Peptides for Weight Loss
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Episode 442: The Truth About GLP-1s and Peptides for Weight Loss
Okay, so let's just say, let's just get back to the Ozempic because there's so many questions I have for it. The microdosing or the doses, can everybody microdose it and get a benefit from it?
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Episode 442: The Truth About GLP-1s and Peptides for Weight Loss
Are there hidden benefits to GLP-1s that the FDA just isn't talking about? In this Fitness Friday episode of Habits & Hustle, I sit down with Dr. Tina Moore to break down the truth about GLP-1 medications and the hype surrounding them. Dr. Tina is an expert in holistic regenerative medicine.
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Episode 442: The Truth About GLP-1s and Peptides for Weight Loss
You can mix it into smoothies or yogurt. There's flavors like chocolate or unflavored versions. It's both simple and enjoyable. And I love how easy it is to fit into your busy routine. And it's perfect for when you travel as well, which is why I always take it with me in my bag.
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Episode 416: Ebenezer Samuel Shares No-Nonsense Advice on Building Muscle, Burning Fat, and Healthy Eating for Life
Not so much. And what you eat is what I would say. Not necessarily the time you're eating it and all that other stuff that goes with it.
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Episode 416: Ebenezer Samuel Shares No-Nonsense Advice on Building Muscle, Burning Fat, and Healthy Eating for Life
Right. What I'm saying at the time, like if you don't eat until noon or whatever I'm saying that, I think the more that, that those are also based on your body can't break down food. Like we overeat and therefore we're stuck with all this food in us because we're not, we're not digesting it because we're eating so much of it.
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Episode 416: Ebenezer Samuel Shares No-Nonsense Advice on Building Muscle, Burning Fat, and Healthy Eating for Life
So like having enough time to digest your food is really good for your system.
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Episode 416: Ebenezer Samuel Shares No-Nonsense Advice on Building Muscle, Burning Fat, and Healthy Eating for Life
I think eight is a beginning. I think eight for beginners.
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Episode 416: Ebenezer Samuel Shares No-Nonsense Advice on Building Muscle, Burning Fat, and Healthy Eating for Life
Or most people.
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Episode 416: Ebenezer Samuel Shares No-Nonsense Advice on Building Muscle, Burning Fat, and Healthy Eating for Life
How about like, what's the best way to eat if we want to build muscle and lose fat and just, you know, feel better and look better? What would be in your opinion?
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Episode 416: Ebenezer Samuel Shares No-Nonsense Advice on Building Muscle, Burning Fat, and Healthy Eating for Life
I have this one. Okay. BLK water.
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Episode 416: Ebenezer Samuel Shares No-Nonsense Advice on Building Muscle, Burning Fat, and Healthy Eating for Life
We're not eating enough fiber though, as a society, as a, as a, so, and how do we, I mean, we should up that for sure.
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Episode 416: Ebenezer Samuel Shares No-Nonsense Advice on Building Muscle, Burning Fat, and Healthy Eating for Life
I know, you've had it like five times since we've been here.
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Episode 416: Ebenezer Samuel Shares No-Nonsense Advice on Building Muscle, Burning Fat, and Healthy Eating for Life
By the way, white rice is supposed to be better than brown rice. Did you know that?
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Episode 416: Ebenezer Samuel Shares No-Nonsense Advice on Building Muscle, Burning Fat, and Healthy Eating for Life
Oh, you should Google it. You should do a story on it. I heard that there's a whole myth about brown rice versus white rice.
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Episode 416: Ebenezer Samuel Shares No-Nonsense Advice on Building Muscle, Burning Fat, and Healthy Eating for Life
I don't remember what the myth exactly is. I can Google it right now and talk to you. But I had someone on here recently who told me about this. And it's pretty amazing, actually. I'm going to Google it. White rice versus brown rice. I was a brown rice person, too.
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Episode 416: Ebenezer Samuel Shares No-Nonsense Advice on Building Muscle, Burning Fat, and Healthy Eating for Life
It's not marketably better. It's not.
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Episode 416: Ebenezer Samuel Shares No-Nonsense Advice on Building Muscle, Burning Fat, and Healthy Eating for Life
Well, I was going to say, I mean, you're naturally going to probably live to 177 because of just all the rice you're eating. But hold on. Brown rice versus white rice. Okay, if you look at the breakdown, it's actually... The fiber content in brown rice is like minusculely higher, but yeah, it's basically a little bit higher, like between one gram and two grams more fiber. And then...
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Episode 416: Ebenezer Samuel Shares No-Nonsense Advice on Building Muscle, Burning Fat, and Healthy Eating for Life
It's a portable red light panel that I simply cannot live without. I literally bring it with me everywhere I go. And I personally use their red light therapy to help reduce inflammations in places in my body where, honestly, I have pain. You can use it on a sore back, stomach cramps, shoulder, ankle, red light therapy is my go-to.
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Episode 416: Ebenezer Samuel Shares No-Nonsense Advice on Building Muscle, Burning Fat, and Healthy Eating for Life
I'm not finding it properly right now. I'm going to look it up and then get back to you on that. But from what I heard, it's not that much different. White rice is... See, again, there's another... I think what happens is something gets traction and then everyone just follows the... you know, follows that.
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Episode 416: Ebenezer Samuel Shares No-Nonsense Advice on Building Muscle, Burning Fat, and Healthy Eating for Life
And this could be happening right now with the, I heard something about white rights and now I'm following that whole thing. So don't take my word for it. I think I could have sworn I heard someone mention that to me and I, and they were like a dog, they were a leading nutritionist. So, um, I was trying to find that information.
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Episode 416: Ebenezer Samuel Shares No-Nonsense Advice on Building Muscle, Burning Fat, and Healthy Eating for Life
Like a sweet potato versus a white potato.
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Episode 416: Ebenezer Samuel Shares No-Nonsense Advice on Building Muscle, Burning Fat, and Healthy Eating for Life
So for the average person who wants to like look a little bit more lean and healthy and fit, have white rice or brown rice. It's not going to make, it's so nominally different. It doesn't make a difference. Okay. Let's talk about aging and muscle. Like keeping, how do we do this and do it well? Because we do break down more muscle as we age. So how do we-
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Episode 416: Ebenezer Samuel Shares No-Nonsense Advice on Building Muscle, Burning Fat, and Healthy Eating for Life
Well, you say heavy though, right? Like the other, the fear is that, especially as you get older, like you're going to pull your, put your back out or you're going to hurt, you're going to injure yourself for like injury prevention. Yeah. So you're saying that shouldn't be something that we focus on?
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Episode 416: Ebenezer Samuel Shares No-Nonsense Advice on Building Muscle, Burning Fat, and Healthy Eating for Life
One, I think for a lot of... Or do challenging stuff for people.
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Episode 416: Ebenezer Samuel Shares No-Nonsense Advice on Building Muscle, Burning Fat, and Healthy Eating for Life
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Episode 416: Ebenezer Samuel Shares No-Nonsense Advice on Building Muscle, Burning Fat, and Healthy Eating for Life
The whole toning myth. That's a myth.
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Episode 416: Ebenezer Samuel Shares No-Nonsense Advice on Building Muscle, Burning Fat, and Healthy Eating for Life
That's all they say is like, you know, tone your, you know, upper body, toning your arms. The word tone or toning is like synonymous with, you know, abs. You know what I mean? Like it's a very common word.
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Episode 416: Ebenezer Samuel Shares No-Nonsense Advice on Building Muscle, Burning Fat, and Healthy Eating for Life
Because women use the word toning. I don't think men ever use the word toning.
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Episode 416: Ebenezer Samuel Shares No-Nonsense Advice on Building Muscle, Burning Fat, and Healthy Eating for Life
Hey friends, you're listening to Fitness Friday on the Habits & Hustle podcast where myself and my friends share quick and very actionable advice for you becoming your healthiest self. So stay tuned and let me know how you leveled up. Before we dive into today's episode, I first want to thank our sponsor, Therasage. Their tri-light panel has become my favorite biohacking thing for healing my body.
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Episode 416: Ebenezer Samuel Shares No-Nonsense Advice on Building Muscle, Burning Fat, and Healthy Eating for Life
It means like... Yeah. Kind of like... It's like, again, the opposite of flabby would be toned, I guess. I don't know. These are all like, this is exactly my point. And that's why I wanted to talk to you and have you on is because I think so much of everything is all marketing and branding. And it's not necessarily accurate or true.
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Episode 416: Ebenezer Samuel Shares No-Nonsense Advice on Building Muscle, Burning Fat, and Healthy Eating for Life
It's just what we've been conditioned to think because we see it and hear about it all the time, especially with social media. And every ding-dong now on social media is a fitness expert, which is a problem because most people are getting paid for everything that they're doing or... or they have no clue what they're doing. So either option's terrible.
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Episode 416: Ebenezer Samuel Shares No-Nonsense Advice on Building Muscle, Burning Fat, and Healthy Eating for Life
So having someone who's a trusted resource like you, who actually takes it super seriously and learns about this constantly is, I think, a really important thing to talk about because you get analysis paralysis and overwhelmed at all the different information that's out there.
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Episode 416: Ebenezer Samuel Shares No-Nonsense Advice on Building Muscle, Burning Fat, and Healthy Eating for Life
That's why I'm confused. This is what I do for a living practically. You know what I mean? I don't even know anymore. I'm like, I'm like, I don't know. Maybe that, maybe I'm like the brown rice, white rice thing.
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Episode 416: Ebenezer Samuel Shares No-Nonsense Advice on Building Muscle, Burning Fat, and Healthy Eating for Life
I'm even confused because I'm like, okay, well, I mean, this trusted resource told me, and then I look and now I can't find it, but then I'm sure if I, I don't have the time right this second, but you, if you dig around long enough for anything, you can back up that, that, that resource. Right.
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Episode 416: Ebenezer Samuel Shares No-Nonsense Advice on Building Muscle, Burning Fat, and Healthy Eating for Life
Exactly. Exactly.
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Episode 416: Ebenezer Samuel Shares No-Nonsense Advice on Building Muscle, Burning Fat, and Healthy Eating for Life
Get off my podcast. I'm just joking.
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Episode 416: Ebenezer Samuel Shares No-Nonsense Advice on Building Muscle, Burning Fat, and Healthy Eating for Life
It is. So for guys, it's cut, rip, shred, built.
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Episode 416: Ebenezer Samuel Shares No-Nonsense Advice on Building Muscle, Burning Fat, and Healthy Eating for Life
Women, it's tone.
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Episode 416: Ebenezer Samuel Shares No-Nonsense Advice on Building Muscle, Burning Fat, and Healthy Eating for Life
Chisel, maybe.
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Episode 416: Ebenezer Samuel Shares No-Nonsense Advice on Building Muscle, Burning Fat, and Healthy Eating for Life
Tone.
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Episode 416: Ebenezer Samuel Shares No-Nonsense Advice on Building Muscle, Burning Fat, and Healthy Eating for Life
Tone or burn.
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Episode 416: Ebenezer Samuel Shares No-Nonsense Advice on Building Muscle, Burning Fat, and Healthy Eating for Life
Like burn fat. Tone your midsection.
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Episode 416: Ebenezer Samuel Shares No-Nonsense Advice on Building Muscle, Burning Fat, and Healthy Eating for Life
But the men's magazines do have way better workouts that are more effective. I will say that. That's why, you know, I have you here today because it's, The truth of the matter is I do know enough to know that women are kind of shown and taught to be lifting very lightweight or no weight, and they believe that's actually going to get them to their goal.
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Episode 416: Ebenezer Samuel Shares No-Nonsense Advice on Building Muscle, Burning Fat, and Healthy Eating for Life
When the truth of the matter is you do need to lift heavy and heavier and challenge yourself because that's how you get results.
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Episode 416: Ebenezer Samuel Shares No-Nonsense Advice on Building Muscle, Burning Fat, and Healthy Eating for Life
Again, head over to therasage, T-H-E-R-A-S-A-G-E.com and use code BEBOLD for 15% off any of their products. It's not about what quote unquote diet you're following. It's about, again, what I said. And that's why if I were sitting where you were and you were interviewing me, I would say that it does make a difference about the amount you eat.
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Episode 450: Henry Abbott: The Hip Stability Secret for Aging Well + Why ACL Tears Are 8x More Common in Women
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Episode 450: Henry Abbott: The Hip Stability Secret for Aging Well + Why ACL Tears Are 8x More Common in Women
A hundred percent. Like I always have this problem with trainers, right? They're like, okay, grab the heaviest weight and squat deep down. And like, I'm like, my body mechanics doesn't allow for me to do that move. They're like, Yeah, that's impossible. I'm like, no, it's not impossible. I will hurt myself. And people should, people know their bodies better than like a stranger does.
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Episode 450: Henry Abbott: The Hip Stability Secret for Aging Well + Why ACL Tears Are 8x More Common in Women
And so when they do these generic workouts and think everybody's body can move a certain way, that's just not accurate.
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Episode 450: Henry Abbott: The Hip Stability Secret for Aging Well + Why ACL Tears Are 8x More Common in Women
It's exactly it. Like, you're starting at, like, 100. You know what I mean?
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Episode 450: Henry Abbott: The Hip Stability Secret for Aging Well + Why ACL Tears Are 8x More Common in Women
And so that's what I want to talk about. I want to talk about for the average person, someone who's more intermediate or beginner or whatever in that realm, not a professional athlete, right? Because not all of us are going to have the chance to go to P3 and get these crazy assessments and then work that way.
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Episode 450: Henry Abbott: The Hip Stability Secret for Aging Well + Why ACL Tears Are 8x More Common in Women
But from all of the experience you've had, I want you to be able to tell me and my audience What we can do to strengthen our bodies in the ways that are the most beneficial, in the ways that we get hurt the most, in the ACL. Another one is glutes don't fire, really.
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Episode 450: Henry Abbott: The Hip Stability Secret for Aging Well + Why ACL Tears Are 8x More Common in Women
That's a big one. Hip issues, knee issues. Give me some stuff that everyday people can do daily.
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Episode 450: Henry Abbott: The Hip Stability Secret for Aging Well + Why ACL Tears Are 8x More Common in Women
I know. And they're not interested.
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Episode 450: Henry Abbott: The Hip Stability Secret for Aging Well + Why ACL Tears Are 8x More Common in Women
What do we do with normies? I'm a normie and so are you.
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Episode 450: Henry Abbott: The Hip Stability Secret for Aging Well + Why ACL Tears Are 8x More Common in Women
Really? Okay, what's the warm-up? I want to know.
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Episode 450: Henry Abbott: The Hip Stability Secret for Aging Well + Why ACL Tears Are 8x More Common in Women
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Episode 450: Henry Abbott: The Hip Stability Secret for Aging Well + Why ACL Tears Are 8x More Common in Women
You're a hundred percent right about that. Go on.
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Episode 450: Henry Abbott: The Hip Stability Secret for Aging Well + Why ACL Tears Are 8x More Common in Women
Oh, terrible. That's where my biggest issue is.
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Episode 450: Henry Abbott: The Hip Stability Secret for Aging Well + Why ACL Tears Are 8x More Common in Women
Okay.
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Episode 450: Henry Abbott: The Hip Stability Secret for Aging Well + Why ACL Tears Are 8x More Common in Women
But in today's episode, we talk all about Misogi, a practice where you take on a challenge so intense you've only got a 50% chance of finishing. We talk wild examples like underwater 5Ks with rocks and paddleboarding through shark-infested waters, all designed to push the limits of what you think you're capable of.
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Episode 450: Henry Abbott: The Hip Stability Secret for Aging Well + Why ACL Tears Are 8x More Common in Women
So that's interesting. So, and you need to be both, right?
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Episode 450: Henry Abbott: The Hip Stability Secret for Aging Well + Why ACL Tears Are 8x More Common in Women
You need stability and mobility.
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Episode 450: Henry Abbott: The Hip Stability Secret for Aging Well + Why ACL Tears Are 8x More Common in Women
And that's so important for aging. So let me just repeat that because I think that's really important. So to age well, for your body to age well, we need to have hips that are stable and mobile. Totally. Right. And the way to check that is to either go into a standing figure four to see if you can sit down.
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Episode 450: Henry Abbott: The Hip Stability Secret for Aging Well + Why ACL Tears Are 8x More Common in Women
Or the pigeon. Right.
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Episode 450: Henry Abbott: The Hip Stability Secret for Aging Well + Why ACL Tears Are 8x More Common in Women
And you'll know if you're mobile or not. And if whatever, and the side plank with your hand out, fingers open.
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Episode 450: Henry Abbott: The Hip Stability Secret for Aging Well + Why ACL Tears Are 8x More Common in Women
And leg up. That in itself is very hard.
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Episode 450: Henry Abbott: The Hip Stability Secret for Aging Well + Why ACL Tears Are 8x More Common in Women
Yeah, that's really hard.
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Episode 450: Henry Abbott: The Hip Stability Secret for Aging Well + Why ACL Tears Are 8x More Common in Women
So then let's just say 5% of people pass. Then what does the other 95% of people do?
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Episode 450: Henry Abbott: The Hip Stability Secret for Aging Well + Why ACL Tears Are 8x More Common in Women
But let me just finish that because whatever, if you, if, if you cannot do that, right. If you're, if you're unable to sink into the figure eight or sorry, the, the, the pigeon, that means you're immobile. And that means you should be doing less weights, more yoga.
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Episode 450: Henry Abbott: The Hip Stability Secret for Aging Well + Why ACL Tears Are 8x More Common in Women
And if you are able to do that, but your hips are unstable, you know that by doing the plank. Yeah, exactly right. Because what happens? You just can't lift your leg or what happens?
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Episode 450: Henry Abbott: The Hip Stability Secret for Aging Well + Why ACL Tears Are 8x More Common in Women
Do you need more weights then? Yeah.
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Episode 450: Henry Abbott: The Hip Stability Secret for Aging Well + Why ACL Tears Are 8x More Common in Women
No, but what I mean is if you're in that side plank.
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Episode 450: Henry Abbott: The Hip Stability Secret for Aging Well + Why ACL Tears Are 8x More Common in Women
Right. That's very common for guys though.
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Episode 450: Henry Abbott: The Hip Stability Secret for Aging Well + Why ACL Tears Are 8x More Common in Women
Right. But I think mostly women maybe have more mobility in their hips and men have less.
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Episode 450: Henry Abbott: The Hip Stability Secret for Aging Well + Why ACL Tears Are 8x More Common in Women
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Episode 450: Henry Abbott: The Hip Stability Secret for Aging Well + Why ACL Tears Are 8x More Common in Women
Well, I think it's because you could be too mobile. It's like the Goldilocks thing, right? With anything, right? You could be too much. It's like you have to be just enough. Just enough stability, just enough mobility, or else if you're too mobile, you can also injure yourself.
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Episode 450: Henry Abbott: The Hip Stability Secret for Aging Well + Why ACL Tears Are 8x More Common in Women
Is it just weights or yoga? Because I find people who do weights are much more stiff versus people who do more malleable stuff like yoga. So getting back to my first question then, what is the top injury for women and what is the top injury for men?
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Episode 450: Henry Abbott: The Hip Stability Secret for Aging Well + Why ACL Tears Are 8x More Common in Women
I mean, Kobe Bryant got that. I mean, like for men, like there's a lot of them for men too, right? But just for women, it's just way more. Is it because they're more, again, is it because women, not just hips are more mobile, but maybe their ankles are more mobile. So there's more chance of that injury, you know? Yeah.
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Episode 450: Henry Abbott: The Hip Stability Secret for Aging Well + Why ACL Tears Are 8x More Common in Women
Yeah, you would think.
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Episode 450: Henry Abbott: The Hip Stability Secret for Aging Well + Why ACL Tears Are 8x More Common in Women
Yep.
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Episode 450: Henry Abbott: The Hip Stability Secret for Aging Well + Why ACL Tears Are 8x More Common in Women
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Episode 450: Henry Abbott: The Hip Stability Secret for Aging Well + Why ACL Tears Are 8x More Common in Women
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Episode 450: Henry Abbott: The Hip Stability Secret for Aging Well + Why ACL Tears Are 8x More Common in Women
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Episode 450: Henry Abbott: The Hip Stability Secret for Aging Well + Why ACL Tears Are 8x More Common in Women
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Episode 450: Henry Abbott: The Hip Stability Secret for Aging Well + Why ACL Tears Are 8x More Common in Women
Grab it today. So then how do we train for that not to happen? How do we train so we don't get ACL injuries? Like so far, what I've gotten from you was we need to strengthen our lower legs and plyometrics is super important from all different planes, side to side, up and down, back and forth, just basic jump roping. How else can we train our bodies to be as powerful and as healthy as we age?
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Episode 398: Liron Kayvan: What Fitness Trends Aren’t Telling You About Getting in Shape
Hey friends, you're listening to Fitness Friday on the Habits & Hustle podcast, where myself and my friends share quick and very actionable advice for you becoming your healthiest self. So stay tuned and let me know how you leveled up. Before we dive into today's episode, I first want to thank our sponsor, Therasage. Their TriLight panel has become my favorite biohacking thing for healing my body.
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Episode 398: Liron Kayvan: What Fitness Trends Aren’t Telling You About Getting in Shape
Not anymore.
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Episode 398: Liron Kayvan: What Fitness Trends Aren’t Telling You About Getting in Shape
Okay, I'm going to interrupt you. Okay, only because I agree with you 100%. I think that, I know you're really worried, but I'm going to throw a monkey wrench into your thing, right? I love monkey wrenches. I think intuitive eating is a really great way to be. I'm much more of a realist and I'm a very practical gal.
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Episode 398: Liron Kayvan: What Fitness Trends Aren’t Telling You About Getting in Shape
And I think that a lot of times people know that that's what they need to do and what they should be doing. However, it's much harder said than done. Agreed. And I think people are already programmed to be a certain way and they've done things for so long. It's very hard for them to unwind that and unravel that.
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Episode 398: Liron Kayvan: What Fitness Trends Aren’t Telling You About Getting in Shape
So I don't believe that, you know, there's this whole theory that, oh, you know, everyone should have a cheat meal, a cheat day, right? I don't believe everybody should have a cheat meal and a cheat day. I think that it can really counteract a lot of people, right?
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Episode 398: Liron Kayvan: What Fitness Trends Aren’t Telling You About Getting in Shape
Like if you have a cheat day, right, you could end up having like so many calories in that day that it just kind of just like counteracts all the good stuff that you did that whole week, right? And it's like for your psyche, it doesn't work for some people.
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Episode 398: Liron Kayvan: What Fitness Trends Aren’t Telling You About Getting in Shape
No, I mean, listen, I've tried this whole idea of like, oh, just eat what you want when you want and see how it works. Well, you know what happens?
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Episode 398: Liron Kayvan: What Fitness Trends Aren’t Telling You About Getting in Shape
That framework doesn't work. You know what happens? You eat way more calories. And so people over-index. how many calories they're actually burning in their workouts. And then because they over-index that, the amount of calories that they're actually working out, they end up eating a lot of calories and they're not, there's no, you're not getting a deficit.
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Episode 398: Liron Kayvan: What Fitness Trends Aren’t Telling You About Getting in Shape
You need that deficit in your calories to lose weight, right? Even for maintenance of something. You need to know it is, it is pure. It is kind of a calculation. Like this is the amount of calories I need a day.
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Episode 398: Liron Kayvan: What Fitness Trends Aren’t Telling You About Getting in Shape
Nobody loses weight.
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Unless you're swimming 12 hours a day. But I think that's why people have to have a come to Jesus and have a realistic expectations. If you are working out like a regular human being in the gym for an hour, 45 minutes, you're only burning like 300 to 500 calories, maybe six if you're someone who's like going at it really hard.
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Episode 398: Liron Kayvan: What Fitness Trends Aren’t Telling You About Getting in Shape
People think that's like a thousand calories because their watch says so. Their watches are almost always wrong, okay? These trackers are not accurate.
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Episode 398: Liron Kayvan: What Fitness Trends Aren’t Telling You About Getting in Shape
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Episode 398: Liron Kayvan: What Fitness Trends Aren’t Telling You About Getting in Shape
No, you shouldn't be exercising your calories up. But what I'm saying is what you do is you think, okay, I burned this amount of calories.
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Episode 398: Liron Kayvan: What Fitness Trends Aren’t Telling You About Getting in Shape
And now I can eat this much more when your numbers are not even like realistic. And so you end up gaining weight. And like the number one way for me is To control what I'm eating and to know what I'm eating is to have food that is single ingredient or I know exactly the ingredients in. So I don't eat any processed food as much as I can help it. I'll eat only things that are grown that I know.
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Episode 398: Liron Kayvan: What Fitness Trends Aren’t Telling You About Getting in Shape
So I'll eat like a pure protein. I'll eat like a vegetable and I'll eat fruit. I'll eat things that I know are like as single or minimal ingredient as possible versus like going out to a restaurant where they automatically, a meal that you go and eat at a restaurant, you should just add another 500 calories.
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Episode 398: Liron Kayvan: What Fitness Trends Aren’t Telling You About Getting in Shape
Oh, I agree with you. We could do a whole podcast on that. But I'm talking about like, if I'm going to have a chicken breast, right? I just want to have a grill with some olive oil and some very, very simple seasonings. Versus if I go to a restaurant and think I'm just ordering a chicken breast, a lot of times they're putting a lot of other stuff on it or in it with putting extra butter.
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Episode 398: Liron Kayvan: What Fitness Trends Aren’t Telling You About Getting in Shape
They're putting more oil than I would like. They're cooking it on a surface that probably had lard on it. So you're at the calories get exponentially higher, right? with shit and fat that you don't even want on it or need. Right. So like a good way to kind of, you know, offset that is a make your own food. Right. And be cognizant of those things.
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Episode 398: Liron Kayvan: What Fitness Trends Aren’t Telling You About Getting in Shape
So when you go to a place and you're like you are tracking your calories and you are tracking what you're eating, always add in an extra three to five hundred calories. So you have that like bumper.
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Episode 398: Liron Kayvan: What Fitness Trends Aren’t Telling You About Getting in Shape
No, it's really hard.
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Episode 398: Liron Kayvan: What Fitness Trends Aren’t Telling You About Getting in Shape
It's super hard. Yeah. So I think that's basically what we are talking about on this podcast. Guys, just watch what you eat. I think at the end of the day, these are the takeaways. The takeaway is try to cook your own food if you are trying to manage and monitor your weight loss or fat loss or overall your body, what you're eating and what you're doing for your body.
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Episode 398: Liron Kayvan: What Fitness Trends Aren’t Telling You About Getting in Shape
Add some calories that you're going to be taking in if you're eating out, but try to minimize that. Do heavy weights for body composition and some cardio. And do movement. Any movement is better than no movement. So do your wacky exercises and your wacky classes and enjoy yourself.
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Yeah, and the trampolines. All right. Thank you. Bye. Bye.
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Why would you want to talk shit about your friend?
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He's talking about a different episode. Just do me a favor. Like, subscribe, share. It makes a big difference. Okay. With that all being said, let's talk today about viral fitness trends. I love this topic. Of middle-aged women who basically will do everything, every type of workout, quote unquote, except an actual workout, right?
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Episode 398: Liron Kayvan: What Fitness Trends Aren’t Telling You About Getting in Shape
Like, you know, so instead of just doing like weights and some cardio, they're doing all sorts of crazy wackadoo things like trying to run up a tree and then run down.
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Episode 398: Liron Kayvan: What Fitness Trends Aren’t Telling You About Getting in Shape
Well, that's why it was so funny. It was because it was so true. Like everybody, like all my friends, we basically, middle-aged women, they're going by the droves to try all these wackadoo classes and just to do anything possible. other than the things that will be the most effective. Like nobody wants to listen to what actually works, which is heavyweights and some cardio.
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Episode 398: Liron Kayvan: What Fitness Trends Aren’t Telling You About Getting in Shape
Instead, they literally will go and like, will like go on a swing set and like just, you know, basically with your stomach and like up and down.
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Episode 398: Liron Kayvan: What Fitness Trends Aren’t Telling You About Getting in Shape
There's always a trampoline, a swing. And by the way, I'm a victim of this too. I have my trampolines and there's a place for all of it.
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Episode 398: Liron Kayvan: What Fitness Trends Aren’t Telling You About Getting in Shape
Yeah, I'm talking about trends. Like they'll see something on TikTok or they'll see something on Instagram that looks like the new workout of the month or the day, and then they'll go and do it versus doing what's actually the most effective, which is weights, let's say. And I also think running, if they're going to do a cardio workout, I think running is really effective.
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Episode 398: Liron Kayvan: What Fitness Trends Aren’t Telling You About Getting in Shape
I also think inclined walking with a vest, like a weighted vest or with hand weights, the most effective to And besides those two things for cardio, obviously I love walking. Walking is like an incline walk. You know, those are to me the most effective and the most easy to do. But people are like, will do anything but the things that work.
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Episode 398: Liron Kayvan: What Fitness Trends Aren’t Telling You About Getting in Shape
Of course. Rucking is wearing a weighted vest.
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Or you wear a baby. That's basically a weighted vest.
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Episode 398: Liron Kayvan: What Fitness Trends Aren’t Telling You About Getting in Shape
So that's what I find really funny. So let's talk about these viral fitness trends. So the one that's really popular right now is this 12% incline with 3%. You're going 12% on an incline at a 3.0 speed.
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Episode 398: Liron Kayvan: What Fitness Trends Aren’t Telling You About Getting in Shape
For 30 minutes. Okay. Because some girl on TikTok.
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Episode 398: Liron Kayvan: What Fitness Trends Aren’t Telling You About Getting in Shape
A hundred percent. But some chick on TikTok did it. And now it's called the 12-3-3 workout.
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Episode 398: Liron Kayvan: What Fitness Trends Aren’t Telling You About Getting in Shape
Yeah. And everybody's doing it. It's like the thing to do.
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Episode 398: Liron Kayvan: What Fitness Trends Aren’t Telling You About Getting in Shape
And no, the 12-3-30, I think it's called, or the 12-33. I don't know what it's called, but it's basically 30 minutes at three miles an hour at 12% incline. And it's all the rage, which is, by the way, what I've been doing since I was like,
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Episode 398: Liron Kayvan: What Fitness Trends Aren’t Telling You About Getting in Shape
17 years old yeah this is not this is not new stuff yeah it's not new but this is what everything kind of recycles itself there's like everything is cyclical right like people are acting like they've never heard of such a crazy thing before which was like it was like old school and I bet most of them are holding on the whole time so it's basically just They probably are. I don't know.
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Episode 398: Liron Kayvan: What Fitness Trends Aren’t Telling You About Getting in Shape
I haven't seen it, but I will say that, you know, with anything, let me just say this. I want to make sure this is a caveat that I'm saying that no matter what workout you do, if you're doing an incline walk, not an incline walk, whatever, any movement is better than zero movement. Okay. Okay.
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Episode 398: Liron Kayvan: What Fitness Trends Aren’t Telling You About Getting in Shape
But I want this caveat to be very, very important right now is the fact that no matter what you do, no matter how effective it is, you will plateau if you don't change it up. So don't always do 12% at a three mile at 30 minutes. Maybe do 30%.
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Episode 398: Liron Kayvan: What Fitness Trends Aren’t Telling You About Getting in Shape
15 at like 2.6 or maybe do a 10 at 4.0 the more you change it up the less your muscles will get kind of acclimated and you'll constantly see or limit your plateau basically limit the limit the plateauing situation in general aside from just changing it you want to constantly kind of progress
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Episode 398: Liron Kayvan: What Fitness Trends Aren’t Telling You About Getting in Shape
That's so true. Not every time. Like what I would say is I wouldn't do it every time.
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Episode 398: Liron Kayvan: What Fitness Trends Aren’t Telling You About Getting in Shape
Over time.
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Episode 398: Liron Kayvan: What Fitness Trends Aren’t Telling You About Getting in Shape
But a lot of times, like for me, walking is my gateway drug to doing a more intense exercise.
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Episode 398: Liron Kayvan: What Fitness Trends Aren’t Telling You About Getting in Shape
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Episode 398: Liron Kayvan: What Fitness Trends Aren’t Telling You About Getting in Shape
I use it more than just a warm-up. So like I'm much more of a cardio junkie than I am of a weight junkie. So for me to actually get the pump and the energy to actually do weightlifting, I have to do my cardio first because then it's like the gateway. Like I'm sweaty already. I'm already like in the workout mode. How long do you do it for? Well, let me tell you, I'm already in the workout mode.
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Episode 398: Liron Kayvan: What Fitness Trends Aren’t Telling You About Getting in Shape
So then for me to go into like to weight is much more of an easy place to go versus me having to like just go right into like a heavy weighted extra like heavy weights because I will procrastinate and I will think of everything that I have to do besides that. But just starting to walk is so much easier than thinking to yourself, oh yeah, I got to go do like really heavy squats.
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Episode 398: Liron Kayvan: What Fitness Trends Aren’t Telling You About Getting in Shape
So if I just do some cardio, it could be like 20 minutes. It like really, really helps me go into the next thing. So did I answer your question?
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Episode 398: Liron Kayvan: What Fitness Trends Aren’t Telling You About Getting in Shape
It's a habit.
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Episode 398: Liron Kayvan: What Fitness Trends Aren’t Telling You About Getting in Shape
It's a habit. And by the way, I don't care how many people tell me that cardio sucks. I shouldn't be doing cardio. I should only be doing weight. Because for me, if I don't do that cardio, my brain will be a mess. I'll have higher anxiety. I will start to get depressed. I will not be as happy. My mood will really, really be... you know, down the tubes.
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Episode 398: Liron Kayvan: What Fitness Trends Aren’t Telling You About Getting in Shape
So for me, my cardio and a lot of people's cardio is more for their brain health and their mental health than it is for their physical health. And like I said, it's a gateway drug for me to actually now feel energized and feel like I can like conquer the world to go and like crush those weights, which is really what I know what we should be doing as we age.
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Episode 398: Liron Kayvan: What Fitness Trends Aren’t Telling You About Getting in Shape
Because as you get into middle age, that to me is fundamental. You need to do heavy weights. So no matter what the fitness trend is, no matter what your friend Molly is telling you to do, you must, must, must do heavy weights.
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Episode 398: Liron Kayvan: What Fitness Trends Aren’t Telling You About Getting in Shape
I think not only are you mixing workout with play, you're also, it's great for your brain to be doing things that you wouldn't be doing regularly. It's good for your mental conditioning. So to me, that's why any movement is good movement. I don't care how kooky or wacky it is, but this is the caveat I was trying to say earlier.
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Episode 398: Liron Kayvan: What Fitness Trends Aren’t Telling You About Getting in Shape
But if you're trying to change your body composition and if you're trying to build lean muscle mass, you must do weights. You're not going to get that by jumping on a trampoline and doing wackadoo exercise classes that are basically you moving in weird ways or just doing whatever's trendy. It does come down to old school, foundational, fundamental shit that actually moves the needle.
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Episode 398: Liron Kayvan: What Fitness Trends Aren’t Telling You About Getting in Shape
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Episode 398: Liron Kayvan: What Fitness Trends Aren’t Telling You About Getting in Shape
I don't care what anybody says. If you want to have fun and you just want to move your body because it's great for your overall well-being, marvelous. If you want to change your body composition and you want to actually change how your genes fit, there's nothing that beats heavyweight and cardio for me anyway.
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Episode 398: Liron Kayvan: What Fitness Trends Aren’t Telling You About Getting in Shape
Yeah, my prescription is cardio and heavy weights.
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Episode 398: Liron Kayvan: What Fitness Trends Aren’t Telling You About Getting in Shape
My prescription for people to get a kick-ass body in middle age especially is I would do heavy weights three times a week. I would do one day a week of light to moderate. So then you're doing four days at minimum weights. I would also do some form of cardio every day for at least 30 minutes. Okay. That could be walking. That could be what I prefer, though, is incline walking or jogging.
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Episode 398: Liron Kayvan: What Fitness Trends Aren’t Telling You About Getting in Shape
I wouldn't do too much of the running because it's bad for your knees. It could be bad for your joints and too much running, quite frankly, can make you look flabby. I'm just being honest. That's why bodybuilders are always doing those incline walks. Yeah. And people who are in competitions, they're not running because you look skinny fat if you do too much of it.
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Episode 398: Liron Kayvan: What Fitness Trends Aren’t Telling You About Getting in Shape
Endurance runners look skinny fat, or they don't look like the ideal body that people are trying to go for. You want to have that body that everybody is ideally trying to get, which is really toned, looking athletic. I would say those incline walks are
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Episode 398: Liron Kayvan: What Fitness Trends Aren’t Telling You About Getting in Shape
with the weighted vest or the hand weights every single day for a minimum of 30 minutes plus four days a week of weightlifting and eating enough protein because a lot of your body is made in the kitchen. It's not made at the gym. It's not. I can work out all fucking day. And if I'm not eating like on point or eating enough protein and I'm not like keeping my eye on the prize.
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Episode 398: Liron Kayvan: What Fitness Trends Aren’t Telling You About Getting in Shape
I totally agree. I think that's my problem. I think I'm already disciplined enough to work out. I work out like a fiend because I'm so now conditioned to work out like a fiend. Like I was saying earlier, it's become habitual. It becomes my ritual. So my brain isn't intact because working out for me really helps me mentally.
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Episode 398: Liron Kayvan: What Fitness Trends Aren’t Telling You About Getting in Shape
However, where I always slip up and just because I'm a fitness person, blah, blah, blah, people don't think it's true, is my nutrition. Because I'm going to tell you right now, I'm obsessed with food. I love food. I love talking about food. I love eating food. I love, I love going to the grocery store so I can look at food. I just love food.
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Episode 398: Liron Kayvan: What Fitness Trends Aren’t Telling You About Getting in Shape
Like an outing for me is to go to Costco and look around for an hour. I'm in heaven. It's crazy.
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Episode 398: Liron Kayvan: What Fitness Trends Aren’t Telling You About Getting in Shape
Okay. I totally agree. But there are those people out there and I don't know, God bless them, where they don't live to eat. They eat to live and they just don't care about food. Like my daughter, she could care less about food. She doesn't care. My son loves food like me. You know what I mean? There are people out there who just don't really care that much. And I just don't know.
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Episode 398: Liron Kayvan: What Fitness Trends Aren’t Telling You About Getting in Shape
My brain is so wired to like think about food. Like when I'm eating breakfast, I swear I'm like, I can't wait for lunch. What can I have for lunch today? And then while I'm having lunch, I'm like, oh my God, like for dinner, if I have this, then I can have that. Maybe tomorrow I can eat this.
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Episode 398: Liron Kayvan: What Fitness Trends Aren’t Telling You About Getting in Shape
Like it's a bad thing and a good thing because for someone like me who's so preoccupied with like fitness and all that stuff, like it's a real brain. It's like a mind fuck, right? Because I know all the stuff I want to eat. I really have to be careful.
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Episode 398: Liron Kayvan: What Fitness Trends Aren’t Telling You About Getting in Shape
Yes, but I wanted to say one more thing. So that's where discipline is really required. And I can't rely on willpower in that way because willpower will only last me so long. And then I just like collapse and I'll eat. And I kid you not, I'll eat like nine pizzas.
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Episode 398: Liron Kayvan: What Fitness Trends Aren’t Telling You About Getting in Shape
Yes.
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Episode 398: Liron Kayvan: What Fitness Trends Aren’t Telling You About Getting in Shape
Again, head over to therasage, T-H-E-R-A-S-A-G-E.com and use code BEBOLD for 15% off any of their products. Hello. We're here again with Fitness Friday with my friend, Liron. He does a lot of these things with me because I just like yapping and yapping with you.
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Episode 432: Kris Gethin: The Natural Blueprint for Building Muscle After 40
Hi guys, it's Tony Robbins. You're listening to Habits & Hustle. Crush it! Hey friends, you're listening to Fitness Friday on the Habits & Hustle podcast where myself and my friends share quick and very actionable advice for you becoming your healthiest self. So stay tuned and let me know how you leveled up. Before we dive into today's episode, I want to thank our sponsor, Momentus.
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Episode 432: Kris Gethin: The Natural Blueprint for Building Muscle After 40
I used to be super muscular, all right? And then as I'm beginning, as I get older, and I've worked out like a phenom forever, like since I was like in my teens, right? And so my body is adapted so well to that. But as you get older, the same things that worked when you were 20 or 25 don't necessarily have the same effects it has when you're 40, 45, 50, right?
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Episode 432: Kris Gethin: The Natural Blueprint for Building Muscle After 40
How do people as they're like middle-aged maintain and also still build muscle and look the same like you? Like you're 50 years old and you're still ripped. And I'm presuming you're not on any steroids since you are natural. No, HRT, nothing like that. Not even HRT? No.
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Episode 432: Kris Gethin: The Natural Blueprint for Building Muscle After 40
Because what I was going to actually ask you, and I didn't want to be rude, but now that you mentioned it, most of the people I know who are in their middle age, like 45, 50, even 55, whatever, who look really muscular, they're on... a lot of HRT. They're on testosterone. They're cycling a lot of other HGH. They're doing a lot of peptides.
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Episode 432: Kris Gethin: The Natural Blueprint for Building Muscle After 40
They're really doing a lot of injectable things to kind of get, really to kind of get them to that place where they can really lean out. How do we do it naturally?
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Episode 432: Kris Gethin: The Natural Blueprint for Building Muscle After 40
Really? Yeah. So, so ways to naturally enhance your testosterone is ice baths, red light therapy. I have this amazing, I use this like tri-light from TheraSize, it's like a bendable red light. Which one do you use? Are you using a one like a panel or what are you using?
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Episode 432: Kris Gethin: The Natural Blueprint for Building Muscle After 40
So wait, if you have all these different body part ones, how does it work? Are you basically just, is it like a, are you in like a blanket? Are you just like have pads all over your body or?
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Episode 432: Kris Gethin: The Natural Blueprint for Building Muscle After 40
I'm shocked that you've never tried that tri-light though from Therasage. It's like you can take it wherever you go. You can travel with it. It goes, it can go anywhere. Your stomach, your balls, your face, wherever you want.
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Episode 432: Kris Gethin: The Natural Blueprint for Building Muscle After 40
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Episode 432: Kris Gethin: The Natural Blueprint for Building Muscle After 40
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Episode 432: Kris Gethin: The Natural Blueprint for Building Muscle After 40
I've never heard that before. So really, when you got that, when the donkey actually did you a favor when he kicked that gold tooth out of your mouth?
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Episode 432: Kris Gethin: The Natural Blueprint for Building Muscle After 40
Oh, that's true. Okay. And then that gold tooth was the one that had the mercury in it.
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Episode 432: Kris Gethin: The Natural Blueprint for Building Muscle After 40
Wow. So that's interesting. How crazy is that? So all these things could be lowering your testosterone and we don't even know it.
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Episode 432: Kris Gethin: The Natural Blueprint for Building Muscle After 40
Wow. So before I even get into your daily, your own daily routine, you said something earlier in the beginning about how to like, how to kind of naturally lose body fat. And you mentioned, was it Burberry or some other supplement?
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Episode 432: Kris Gethin: The Natural Blueprint for Building Muscle After 40
Actually, can I tell you something? I've never heard of that. And you mentioned this guy, Sean Wells. I don't think I met him before.
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Episode 432: Kris Gethin: The Natural Blueprint for Building Muscle After 40
Really? What kind of retreat?
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Episode 432: Kris Gethin: The Natural Blueprint for Building Muscle After 40
And so can you give me some other, other, because, you know, let me say this. I mean, you know, this is no secret how Ozempic has taken over the weight loss world, right? Like now you can't, you know, you can't shoot a cannon without like, you know, hitting somebody who's had, who uses everybody in their world, in the world, especially in Los Angeles is on Ozempic or one of those GLP-1s.
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Episode 432: Kris Gethin: The Natural Blueprint for Building Muscle After 40
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Episode 432: Kris Gethin: The Natural Blueprint for Building Muscle After 40
What is your take on it? And can you give me some other natural ozempics that people can maybe take without relying on a GLP-1 like that?
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Episode 432: Kris Gethin: The Natural Blueprint for Building Muscle After 40
So many, actually. It's become like the new kale.
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Episode 432: Kris Gethin: The Natural Blueprint for Building Muscle After 40
Yeah. You know what I find a lot of people are doing in our industry, like the health and fitness industry? They are on it and they're microdosing GLP-1s, right? So they may not be taking the full dose, but they are microdosing it. And so that's part of the protocol of them trying to look thinner and leaner or thinner, you know. You haven't heard this whole thing?
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Episode 432: Kris Gethin: The Natural Blueprint for Building Muscle After 40
You don't know a lot of people who are microdosing it?
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Episode 432: Kris Gethin: The Natural Blueprint for Building Muscle After 40
The people I know are microdosing both of those, you know, one has nothing to do with the other. So then what are some natural ways we can get the same effects that maybe a ozempic will give, but still maintain our muscle and be more natural and things that we can maintain?
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Episode 424: Liron Kayvan: The Top Nutrition Mistakes to Avoid + Are Seed Oils Bad for You?
And fiber is like a major macro ingredient, a macronutrient that's so important. And it helps with keeping you full and your digestion and your gut.
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Episode 424: Liron Kayvan: The Top Nutrition Mistakes to Avoid + Are Seed Oils Bad for You?
So besides just making sure you are eating enough protein, make sure you're eating enough fiber. And if you can't eat fiber, then get a supplement that can help you with getting that fiber because it keeps you full longer, faster, not faster, but longer. It helps with your absorption of your nutrients.
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Episode 424: Liron Kayvan: The Top Nutrition Mistakes to Avoid + Are Seed Oils Bad for You?
So if you're not absorbing your nutrients, the other problem is that you may eat more because you don't feel like you're eating properly. Does that make sense? Yeah.
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Episode 424: Liron Kayvan: The Top Nutrition Mistakes to Avoid + Are Seed Oils Bad for You?
And I think they say what you should be eating between 25 and 30 grams of fiber per day. Right now, I guess, depending on the size of the person. But I think if you can do that, like that's why incorporating fruits and vegetables is so important. Taking a supplement. That's where I think where the supplements come.
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Episode 424: Liron Kayvan: The Top Nutrition Mistakes to Avoid + Are Seed Oils Bad for You?
Like I was saying earlier, I think sometimes we're supplementing not for our body, but for what people think is like what's popular. Right. Like you're taking the trendiest supplement.
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Episode 424: Liron Kayvan: The Top Nutrition Mistakes to Avoid + Are Seed Oils Bad for You?
supplement yeah some really age obscure thing right versus what your body actually what you actually need like if you know you're somebody's not eating enough fiber then take that as a supplement if you're somebody's not eating enough fats like fatty fish then you could have like take an omega like making sure you're supplementing for yourself will help balance out your your nutrition or your nutrients properly that makes sense
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Episode 424: Liron Kayvan: The Top Nutrition Mistakes to Avoid + Are Seed Oils Bad for You?
I think those are good ones. What else did we miss? Eating enough protein, eating enough fiber. Don't overly restrict your calories. That's another big one. I think people sometimes think in order to lose weight, they have to eat less. That's another big common myth because sometimes what happens is we end up eating more down the road because we're trying to eat less at a certain time.
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Episode 424: Liron Kayvan: The Top Nutrition Mistakes to Avoid + Are Seed Oils Bad for You?
Welcome back to Fitness Fridays. And I am joined yet again by my friend, Liron. Thank you for coming, Liron.
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Episode 424: Liron Kayvan: The Top Nutrition Mistakes to Avoid + Are Seed Oils Bad for You?
That's different than deprivation.
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Episode 424: Liron Kayvan: The Top Nutrition Mistakes to Avoid + Are Seed Oils Bad for You?
No, that's different though. Like, for example, you're like, okay, I'm only going to have this one egg for breakfast, right? Versus having the egg, the avocado, the piece of whole grain toast. That's different. Deprivation is like, I'm not going to eat that piece of chocolate. I'm not going to eat that piece of chocolate. And then you end up like, you know, binging on a chocolate cake.
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Episode 424: Liron Kayvan: The Top Nutrition Mistakes to Avoid + Are Seed Oils Bad for You?
This is different. I think that like, there's a misconception, a big nutrition mistake is that like, eating less is more. Actually, sometimes eating more is more.
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Episode 424: Liron Kayvan: The Top Nutrition Mistakes to Avoid + Are Seed Oils Bad for You?
Liron also has a gym in LA. It's called Beyond Fitness. Beyond Fitness LA, yeah.
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Episode 424: Liron Kayvan: The Top Nutrition Mistakes to Avoid + Are Seed Oils Bad for You?
Oh, I know. Well, that to me is a bunch of nonsense. We're going to do a podcast about that right now, which is like these like crazy, like, you know, myths and debunking some of these things.
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Episode 424: Liron Kayvan: The Top Nutrition Mistakes to Avoid + Are Seed Oils Bad for You?
You'd think I'd know the name by now, but...
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Episode 424: Liron Kayvan: The Top Nutrition Mistakes to Avoid + Are Seed Oils Bad for You?
I was just going to say that, you know, it's funny. I was just going to say that because actually what I was actually going to say, what you were saying is like, I have, and I agree with what you were saying, but I also think that there's a little bit of a caveat to that. And that is, it's really important to have, I eat, I'm, I eat very boring, right?
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Episode 424: Liron Kayvan: The Top Nutrition Mistakes to Avoid + Are Seed Oils Bad for You?
Like I eat the same things over and over again.
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Episode 424: Liron Kayvan: The Top Nutrition Mistakes to Avoid + Are Seed Oils Bad for You?
To anybody it's boring, right? Like I eat the same thing over and over again. But I will say that I do, even though I think it's important, I do think that I did my body an injustice, which is like, I think variety actually works better overall for your overall health. Like, because if you're not eating a variety of foods, you might be missing out on some nutrients that, that you otherwise need.
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Episode 424: Liron Kayvan: The Top Nutrition Mistakes to Avoid + Are Seed Oils Bad for You?
I do. I actually do. But it's super easy when you're here because it's so easy. We've known each other for so long. We're also neighbors. We're also neighbors. And we just like to blab about all things health and fitness. But today we're going to be covering a lot on nutrition because I think people are making big mistakes with their nutrition. Agreed.
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Episode 424: Liron Kayvan: The Top Nutrition Mistakes to Avoid + Are Seed Oils Bad for You?
Like for me, forever, I would have like, I love asparagus and chicken, or like, you know, asparagus and salmon. But like I missed out on a whole, you know, rainbow of other vegetables that are really important.
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Episode 424: Liron Kayvan: The Top Nutrition Mistakes to Avoid + Are Seed Oils Bad for You?
Literally rainbow, like all the colors. Like I feel like it's really important to incorporate vegetables
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Episode 424: Liron Kayvan: The Top Nutrition Mistakes to Avoid + Are Seed Oils Bad for You?
I also think though, though people do that. I think that's also because if it looks good, people are, it's more enticing to eat. For sure. Because we're wired to eat foods based visually. Yeah. You know, I recently went to a restaurant here. I'm really, I'm so upset about this. I really am.
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Episode 424: Liron Kayvan: The Top Nutrition Mistakes to Avoid + Are Seed Oils Bad for You?
Like, first of all, I go to this restaurant like at least five times a week for, like this to me was like the thing that I thought it was the cleanest version, right? Like it was, I get a chicken kebab and salad, right? And I loved it. I loved the chicken and the garlic sauce on the side. And it was like, it's something that I felt like was the healthiest version, like at the restaurant.
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Episode 424: Liron Kayvan: The Top Nutrition Mistakes to Avoid + Are Seed Oils Bad for You?
So I would, I would like force people to go with me. Like whenever I do go out to eat.
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Episode 424: Liron Kayvan: The Top Nutrition Mistakes to Avoid + Are Seed Oils Bad for You?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Episode 424: Liron Kayvan: The Top Nutrition Mistakes to Avoid + Are Seed Oils Bad for You?
I love it. I love the garlic sauce with the white. Oh, it's good. It's good. It's delicious. So I would literally force whoever I would be having like a meal with. I'd be like, let's go to this restaurant. Right. And recently I found out and the chicken is like they grilled the chicken in front of you. Like they put it on the barbecue.
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Episode 424: Liron Kayvan: The Top Nutrition Mistakes to Avoid + Are Seed Oils Bad for You?
And I'm like, and I was like, I thought it was super healthy, right? And I asked them, I'm like, what's in the marinade? It's so delicious. And like, I've asked a couple of times and I got the basics the first time. Oh, it's olive oil. We put some yogurt in it.
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Episode 424: Liron Kayvan: The Top Nutrition Mistakes to Avoid + Are Seed Oils Bad for You?
Yeah. Okay. No. But then they told me that they're like, the one guy was like, and we use egg color number 40. I'm like, huh? And he's like, I'm like, it wasn't, I'm like, isn't this saffron, the color? I'm like, they're like, no, it's yellow egg 40. I'm like, what are you talking about? He goes in the back. I'm like, let me see what you're talking about.
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Episode 424: Liron Kayvan: The Top Nutrition Mistakes to Avoid + Are Seed Oils Bad for You?
He brings out, he brought, yes, he brought out the food coloring that they add to the recipe to make it look yellow, to make it look like they're using saffron. Yeah. Because saffron is really- Saffron's expensive.
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Episode 424: Liron Kayvan: The Top Nutrition Mistakes to Avoid + Are Seed Oils Bad for You?
Well, saffron's a really expensive spice, right?
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Okay, but the chicken skewer is $22. It's not like it's so cheap. And I assumed that it was like a spice that they were using. I told, he broke my heart when he brought out the egg color number 40, like the egg yolk- To make it a little yellow? To make it yellow.
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Episode 424: Liron Kayvan: The Top Nutrition Mistakes to Avoid + Are Seed Oils Bad for You?
And because of that, they're not reaching their overall health goals. 80% of your goals, fitness-wise, body-wise, comes from your nutrition. It's not... You're not going to be making... That's what they say, like, abs are made in the kitchen. They're not made at the gym. And you can be squatting all day. And you can be lunging all night. But if you're not eating properly, then good luck to you.
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Episode 424: Liron Kayvan: The Top Nutrition Mistakes to Avoid + Are Seed Oils Bad for You?
No, in the marinade that he marinates the chicken in. And so it took me four people to get me to the actual answer. The first three people just said, oh, it's olive oil and lemon juice. They use all the basic ingredients. So I thought, oh, great. But it was the actual, the guy told me that.
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Episode 424: Liron Kayvan: The Top Nutrition Mistakes to Avoid + Are Seed Oils Bad for You?
But wait, isn't that horrible?
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Why not?
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Okay, who?
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Oh, I love that place.
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I want to know.
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Why do you think that?
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Episode 424: Liron Kayvan: The Top Nutrition Mistakes to Avoid + Are Seed Oils Bad for You?
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Episode 424: Liron Kayvan: The Top Nutrition Mistakes to Avoid + Are Seed Oils Bad for You?
So that's really interesting. So to me, there's a fine line between being, is that deception? Because people are going to California. And I'll tell you why. People are going to California Chicken Cafe. For me, it's called the Peter Grill. And I would go there all the time. And I was really, like, I thought I was like doing a healthy thing for myself.
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Episode 424: Liron Kayvan: The Top Nutrition Mistakes to Avoid + Are Seed Oils Bad for You?
And so... I really wanted to do an episode, a fast episode, short episode on, I believe, the top nutrition mistakes that people are making. And then you can tell me what you think, okay? How's that sound? Sounds great. I believe some of the top nutrition mistakes that people are making that really can overhaul your overall goals if you just watch on these. The first one is your portions.
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Episode 424: Liron Kayvan: The Top Nutrition Mistakes to Avoid + Are Seed Oils Bad for You?
Like, I thought like, this is like, I'm going here because I believed it to be the healthier option. I didn't think that they would be using that ingredient like food coloring. Like to me, I think there is like a level of deception because people are going to these places because they think they're doing something healthy for themselves. I agree with you though. It is deception.
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Episode 424: Liron Kayvan: The Top Nutrition Mistakes to Avoid + Are Seed Oils Bad for You?
It's not the restaurant's job to make me healthy. I hear that. And I think it's like their job is for their bottom line and for their profit. Absolutely. But there is something to be said for these places that kind of position themselves as like healthy options. And then they're doing things that are kind of not that healthy.
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Episode 424: Liron Kayvan: The Top Nutrition Mistakes to Avoid + Are Seed Oils Bad for You?
I know.
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Episode 424: Liron Kayvan: The Top Nutrition Mistakes to Avoid + Are Seed Oils Bad for You?
I agree. But this is where the fine line becomes, right? I believe that we all have to take ownership for our own health for sure, right? And I don't disagree with you. I believe, though, that if someone is under the impression that they are doing something healthy for you and they're not outwardly giving you the facts— We should all be our own investigative journalists.
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Episode 424: Liron Kayvan: The Top Nutrition Mistakes to Avoid + Are Seed Oils Bad for You?
I didn't get to the bottom of what those ingredients were in that chicken skewer, how they marinate the chicken, until I asked four different people. The first three people did not disclose the food coloring. And it's not like it's a recipe that they're putting on the door saying, by the way, this is the ingredients. enter at your own risk, right?
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Episode 424: Liron Kayvan: The Top Nutrition Mistakes to Avoid + Are Seed Oils Bad for You?
So I had to like literally go to like the fourth person who then at least gave me the truth. I don't think that's fair. Just like if at the chicken cafe or wherever, they're saying to you, oh, you know what? We're using olive oil. But are they?
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Episode 424: Liron Kayvan: The Top Nutrition Mistakes to Avoid + Are Seed Oils Bad for You?
There's a deception piece. There is a deception piece. I'm not saying you've got to make me healthy. I'm not saying that the restaurant is beholden on them. No, of course it's my responsibility. But at least provide the facts to me and then let me make my own decisions.
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Episode 424: Liron Kayvan: The Top Nutrition Mistakes to Avoid + Are Seed Oils Bad for You?
But then again, not to get into the nuance, right? Is it practical? No, but then again, it is technically olive oil.
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Episode 424: Liron Kayvan: The Top Nutrition Mistakes to Avoid + Are Seed Oils Bad for You?
But they omitted the fact that there's also seed oil.
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Episode 424: Liron Kayvan: The Top Nutrition Mistakes to Avoid + Are Seed Oils Bad for You?
I know. By the way, Canada too. This is a US thing. Because it was linked to ADD. Yeah. There's a lot, but the thing is like, that's a whole thing right now in the US, right? Like things that are in the US, nutrition wise is not, they are adding all this shit to the food.
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Episode 424: Liron Kayvan: The Top Nutrition Mistakes to Avoid + Are Seed Oils Bad for You?
I think portions is where people always fail. We think we know, we eyeball it. We think, okay, that's a chicken breast or this looks like a normal size of rice or pasta. And we're always wrong. Because if you actually look at what an actual portion is to what we're actually eating, very, very different. And that can make a major difference in your overall calorie intake.
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Episode 424: Liron Kayvan: The Top Nutrition Mistakes to Avoid + Are Seed Oils Bad for You?
That's like a big movement right now, is that because, yeah, I agree with you. Like, they're adding things in the U.S. that they're not. And it has to be from much more of the top. Nothing gets changed in the middle.
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Episode 424: Liron Kayvan: The Top Nutrition Mistakes to Avoid + Are Seed Oils Bad for You?
Yeah, I understand that. Okay, you guys. Thank you.
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Episode 424: Liron Kayvan: The Top Nutrition Mistakes to Avoid + Are Seed Oils Bad for You?
So if we are much more mindful of our portions, it will save you a lot of heartache. That's the first one. Another big one that I think is really important is supplementing. I think that we rely on supplements way too much over our actual nutrition, like what we're actually eating. And it's not making us any healthier.
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Episode 424: Liron Kayvan: The Top Nutrition Mistakes to Avoid + Are Seed Oils Bad for You?
I think if we actually ate the nutrients that our body needs, it would help us with our overall satiation. Yeah. Right? For sure. And another, I know this is another big one, and I know you're going to definitely agree with me on this one, is people are not consuming enough protein. Yeah.
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Episode 424: Liron Kayvan: The Top Nutrition Mistakes to Avoid + Are Seed Oils Bad for You?
That is like the real, that is like the number one. I mean, protein satiates you, right? Like if I'm not eating enough protein, I am starving, literally starving. And I think if people would uptake their protein, it's like a game changer.
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Episode 424: Liron Kayvan: The Top Nutrition Mistakes to Avoid + Are Seed Oils Bad for You?
Well, first of all, it also regulates my blood sugar. Like I'm like, I shake if I'm hungry. And the second I eat a piece of chicken, I feel so much better. And I'm a big animal protein person. I think that's like the really, like to me, you don't have to be an animal protein person. You can be eating, you can eat other things that are not animal protein. You can try. You can try.
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Episode 424: Liron Kayvan: The Top Nutrition Mistakes to Avoid + Are Seed Oils Bad for You?
But animal protein to me is like the number one source for my protein.
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Episode 424: Liron Kayvan: The Top Nutrition Mistakes to Avoid + Are Seed Oils Bad for You?
Oh, 100%. And like the other really big one is that eliminating food groups is a real mistake, right? Not eating enough carbs, thinking that carbs are going to make you fat. No, it's the portion and the kind of carb will make you fat, not an actual carbohydrate. Eliminating that from your diet is such a bad move.
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Episode 424: Liron Kayvan: The Top Nutrition Mistakes to Avoid + Are Seed Oils Bad for You?
You have to. In order to having a balanced plan is what it is, right? You can't just eliminate because your body is going to crave it and you're going to eat it somewhere. You're going to eat something else that's maybe not as good for you,
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Episode 424: Liron Kayvan: The Top Nutrition Mistakes to Avoid + Are Seed Oils Bad for You?
Well, I feel like that's a big one, right? Because people, they're not relying on the muscle they're building. They're relying on- Yeah, big mistake, huge mistake. Like, what's it called? Like they're overestimating the fat loss and underestimating the muscle gain.
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Episode 424: Liron Kayvan: The Top Nutrition Mistakes to Avoid + Are Seed Oils Bad for You?
But it's really hard. So I think when you eat carbs, like you're saying, you may lose that water weight, right?
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Episode 424: Liron Kayvan: The Top Nutrition Mistakes to Avoid + Are Seed Oils Bad for You?
So then what would be a good strategy, in your opinion, where we can balance it, right? Because we don't want to overeat carbs or anything, right? Like, by the way, do you believe in this myth that eating too much protein will be bad for your kidneys? No. You don't believe in that?
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Episode 424: Liron Kayvan: The Top Nutrition Mistakes to Avoid + Are Seed Oils Bad for You?
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Episode 424: Liron Kayvan: The Top Nutrition Mistakes to Avoid + Are Seed Oils Bad for You?
You don't?
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Episode 424: Liron Kayvan: The Top Nutrition Mistakes to Avoid + Are Seed Oils Bad for You?
Well, I see, this is the thing, right? Like to me, like we talked about protein is so important. People are getting their protein, let's say just from like their shakes. Are they getting enough protein then? Right. Because to me, people are exclusively getting it from their protein shakes. Yeah, well, to me, I feel like that you can't just exclusively get your protein from a protein shake.
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Episode 424: Liron Kayvan: The Top Nutrition Mistakes to Avoid + Are Seed Oils Bad for You?
Well, I would think you'd be like, for me, when I have a protein shake, I'm starving 20 minutes later, right? Because I guess maybe because it digests really quickly into your body, whatever. But I feel like animal protein for me is what actually, the animal protein is what satiates me.
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Episode 424: Liron Kayvan: The Top Nutrition Mistakes to Avoid + Are Seed Oils Bad for You?
Yeah, me too.
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Episode 424: Liron Kayvan: The Top Nutrition Mistakes to Avoid + Are Seed Oils Bad for You?
Listen, I love, by the way, I have a protein shake. I try to have a protein shake on the go. Like I have like my, by the way, I have these.
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Episode 424: Liron Kayvan: The Top Nutrition Mistakes to Avoid + Are Seed Oils Bad for You?
But I use these a lot for pre-workout. Yeah, pre-workout, post-workout or on the go. But I need, I have other things in addition than that to that, right? Like I also use like Momentous. I like their chocolate whey protein or the vanilla whey protein. I like that too. You've got to give me that too. It's delicious.
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Episode 424: Liron Kayvan: The Top Nutrition Mistakes to Avoid + Are Seed Oils Bad for You?
No, no. It's just what I like about it, they have this third-party tested. Oh, okay. And also I just like the taste of it. I like the ingredient list. I like all of it. But my point is I do both, right? Because I need the satiation of having animal protein as well. But I feel like where shakes come into place a lot of times is when I need to supplement with more protein.
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Episode 424: Liron Kayvan: The Top Nutrition Mistakes to Avoid + Are Seed Oils Bad for You?
When I'm busy, when you're on the go, you need to have that.
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Episode 424: Liron Kayvan: The Top Nutrition Mistakes to Avoid + Are Seed Oils Bad for You?
The convenience factor.
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Episode 424: Liron Kayvan: The Top Nutrition Mistakes to Avoid + Are Seed Oils Bad for You?
Exactly. Now, those to me are like big mistakes that I see all the time. What are other ones that you see that people are making?
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Episode 424: Liron Kayvan: The Top Nutrition Mistakes to Avoid + Are Seed Oils Bad for You?
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Episode 424: Liron Kayvan: The Top Nutrition Mistakes to Avoid + Are Seed Oils Bad for You?
So basically you're saying a big mistake is when you deprive yourself. Yeah. it will end up backfiring because you'll end up eating something different or more or badly later on. That's what I do. That's my big thing. I deprive, I deprive, and then I'll go fucking ape shit on something else. Like, for example, I don't want to eat a lot of sugar, but then I'll eat nine pounds of grapes.
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Episode 424: Liron Kayvan: The Top Nutrition Mistakes to Avoid + Are Seed Oils Bad for You?
So that's my thing. I love fruit, and I know people say fruit doesn't make you fat. If you have nine pounds of grapes or mangoes, Yeah, well, you may not get fat, but you will gain some weight.
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Episode 424: Liron Kayvan: The Top Nutrition Mistakes to Avoid + Are Seed Oils Bad for You?
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Episode 424: Liron Kayvan: The Top Nutrition Mistakes to Avoid + Are Seed Oils Bad for You?
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, the thing is, not even the grapes, I should have given myself something else. Because what I'm using is I'm using the grapes as my sugar supplement. Yeah, sugar food. I'm craving sugar, so I'm like, oh, I'll just have grapes, which then really kind of brings us back to portion, right? Portions, portion. That's why I always circle right back to portions.
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Episode 424: Liron Kayvan: The Top Nutrition Mistakes to Avoid + Are Seed Oils Bad for You?
I think where most people really make that mistake is when they just overeat with that portion. Like I said, it's not so much always just the food. It's the amount. You can gain weight on eating too much healthy food. You know what I mean? And that's what I do, right? Like I'm like, oh, chicken breast is okay. I'll have seven of them. Or, oh, you know, like grapes are okay. I'll have nine pounds.
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Episode 424: Liron Kayvan: The Top Nutrition Mistakes to Avoid + Are Seed Oils Bad for You?
So like overeating is overeating. Yeah, you can overeat good food and you can also overeat bad food. The issue with... You have more wiggle room with eating good food. Yeah. But you still have to, it's more wiggle room, but you still have to be careful.
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Episode 424: Liron Kayvan: The Top Nutrition Mistakes to Avoid + Are Seed Oils Bad for You?
I don't get why that's even still a controversial topic.
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Episode 424: Liron Kayvan: The Top Nutrition Mistakes to Avoid + Are Seed Oils Bad for You?
But that's controversial. There's been times when people are like, what are you talking about? Calories in versus calories out? That's not how it works.
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Episode 424: Liron Kayvan: The Top Nutrition Mistakes to Avoid + Are Seed Oils Bad for You?
I'm like, what are you talking about? Of course, that's just how it works. It is how it works because I'm a prime example, right? I exercise like a fanatic. I eat very healthy and But if I'm not watching how many calories I'm inputting into my body versus how many I am outputting, I gain weight.
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Episode 424: Liron Kayvan: The Top Nutrition Mistakes to Avoid + Are Seed Oils Bad for You?
Another one I should think is really important too, because again, we talk so much about protein and we are seem to be remiss about fiber. Like me, maybe I'm eating a lot of fiber by eating all these grapes and everything else, or like, or I'm a big vegetable, vegetable and fruit person. But I would say like there's a crazy stat that like I think 90% of Americans are not eating enough fiber.
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Episode 406: Ana Marie Schick: Using Magnesium for Sleep Fitness + Why You Should Skip the Gummies
And these are all, by the way, ways that people are medicating themselves, like Ambien, marijuana, whatever, to fall asleep. So I'm glad that you said that because what I was going to ask you is like a lot of people I know are taking gummies to fall asleep. That's like the new Ambien thing. Especially here where I live in LA, right?
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Episode 406: Ana Marie Schick: Using Magnesium for Sleep Fitness + Why You Should Skip the Gummies
Like, I don't even think it's only in LA, but like, it's because it's legal. They're like, okay, I'm going to pop a gummy. It will calm me down. It will like de-stress me. And then I'm going to go to sleep. What is the effects of using gummies as a way to fall asleep? Marijuana? Is it the same type of effect as alcohol in terms of the sleep quality that people are getting?
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Episode 406: Ana Marie Schick: Using Magnesium for Sleep Fitness + Why You Should Skip the Gummies
So there's no benefits to it. You're not getting the muscle repair, the hormone, the human growth hormone. You're not getting the emotional, as you were saying earlier, REM sleep. Well, they might get some REM sleep.
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Episode 406: Ana Marie Schick: Using Magnesium for Sleep Fitness + Why You Should Skip the Gummies
Yeah, I don't know. I like to know these things. What's worse, alcohol or THC for sleeping?
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Episode 406: Ana Marie Schick: Using Magnesium for Sleep Fitness + Why You Should Skip the Gummies
Wow. I find this so interesting. Like you were even saying earlier, what I was blown away by is how people who fall asleep quick, that means they're actually sleep deprived. I didn't realize that. And I want to talk to you more about that because I'm really curious about that. And I'm also curious, and I've always wondered this, like a lot of people, this is what I do to fall asleep.
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Episode 406: Ana Marie Schick: Using Magnesium for Sleep Fitness + Why You Should Skip the Gummies
I know it's considered to be a bad sleep hygiene, but I like to watch comedy before I fall Like, not like, I don't like to watch dramas or thrillers, but comedy because it puts me in a happy mood, makes me smile, and I can doze off, like, and my brain is not having to, like, think of something that's, like, that's antagonizing to me, right?
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Episode 406: Ana Marie Schick: Using Magnesium for Sleep Fitness + Why You Should Skip the Gummies
And then I fall asleep. I like to watch Frasier or stand-up comedy. How is that not good if it actually gets me to sleep?
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Episode 406: Ana Marie Schick: Using Magnesium for Sleep Fitness + Why You Should Skip the Gummies
That's the other question I was going to have. There's so many different forms of magnesium. How do you know which one actually works for what? Because it's confusing for me. This is what I do.
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Episode 406: Ana Marie Schick: Using Magnesium for Sleep Fitness + Why You Should Skip the Gummies
Hey friends, you're listening to Fitness Friday on the Habits & Hustle podcast, where myself and my friends share quick and very actionable advice for you becoming your healthiest self. So stay tuned and let me know how you leveled up. What about magnesium? Why is it that magnesium helps us fall asleep?
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Episode 440: The Hidden Benefits of GLP-1s: More Than Just Weight Loss Medication
Can you talk about what it is? Because I think no one really understands, like, is it a peptide? Is it a drug?
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Episode 440: The Hidden Benefits of GLP-1s: More Than Just Weight Loss Medication
Right, right, right. Well, I mean, if you're trying to take business away, who makes Ozempic? Who's the company that makes Ozempic?
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Episode 440: The Hidden Benefits of GLP-1s: More Than Just Weight Loss Medication
In this Fitness Friday episode of Habits & Hustle, I sit down with Dr. Tina Moore to break down the truth about GLP-1 medications and the hype surrounding them. Dr. Tina is an expert in holistic regenerative medicine. She shares why these drugs are more than just weight loss tools and how the conversation around them has become very polarizing.
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Episode 440: The Hidden Benefits of GLP-1s: More Than Just Weight Loss Medication
So wait, like, so, so yeah, that's what's interesting. So in your opinion, should everybody be on one of these GLP-1, like an anoxempic form for their metabolic health?
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Episode 440: The Hidden Benefits of GLP-1s: More Than Just Weight Loss Medication
But where do peptides even come from? I feel like the word peptide has become very popular, very trendy only in the last few years. Like before, like five years ago, I never even heard of a peptide. Most of my friends never heard of a peptide. And then in the last four or five years, there's lots of peptides that people are taking, the BPC-157, the CJC-1290, whatever it is for peptides.
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Episode 440: The Hidden Benefits of GLP-1s: More Than Just Weight Loss Medication
There's so many. And I think, number one, it's inconclusive from what I've heard. And so people don't, there's not much, but most people don't know much about them. And so it's scary. And I don't even think people that mass, and I only say that for people who are in my world, who are in the health and wellness space or longevity space or the fitness space.
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Episode 440: The Hidden Benefits of GLP-1s: More Than Just Weight Loss Medication
If I'm like confused, I can only imagine how people who are just layman's like, you know, an accountant working at a
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Episode 440: The Hidden Benefits of GLP-1s: More Than Just Weight Loss Medication
Or someone in the marketing department at like Hasbro.
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Episode 440: The Hidden Benefits of GLP-1s: More Than Just Weight Loss Medication
You know what I mean? Like, what, like, how do you even, like, I feel like, can you start from the beginning? Like, where did it even, how did it become even something that was even to be taken for optimizing your health or for your longevity? Yeah.
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Episode 440: The Hidden Benefits of GLP-1s: More Than Just Weight Loss Medication
This is a short clip from our full interview where you can find the full episode linked in the show notes below. Please listen and comment with anything you'd like. Enjoy the episode. There's so much controversy over Ozempic, right? Most people are like, oh, you know what? It's like the easy way out. You're not learning behavioral differences or habits.
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Episode 440: The Hidden Benefits of GLP-1s: More Than Just Weight Loss Medication
Hey friends, you're listening to Fitness Friday on the Habits and Hustle podcast, where myself and my friends share quick and very actionable advice for you becoming your healthiest self. So stay tuned and let me know how you leveled up. Are there hidden benefits to GLP-1s that the FDA just isn't talking about?
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Episode 440: The Hidden Benefits of GLP-1s: More Than Just Weight Loss Medication
So that's what I'm going to ask you. So like a lot of them, you can't even get in California anymore, but you can get them in other states.
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Episode 440: The Hidden Benefits of GLP-1s: More Than Just Weight Loss Medication
You're just kind of taking a shot to lose weight. And you are on the opposite side of the fence, right? You actually, you're a big proponent of using these drugs.
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Episode 414: Ben Greenfield: Biohacking Sleep Deprivation with NAD and Creatine
Hi guys, it's Tony Robbins. You're listening to Habits & Hustle. Crush it! Hey friends, you're listening to Fitness Friday on the Habits & Hustle podcast, where myself and my friends share quick and very actionable advice for you becoming your healthiest self. So stay tuned and let me know how you leveled up. Aren't these IVs really good for brain, like cognition and focus and brain fog?
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Episode 414: Ben Greenfield: Biohacking Sleep Deprivation with NAD and Creatine
Okay. This is my question. Can you take NAD, if I just took like a truniogen supplement and a creatine scoop, that would work?
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Episode 414: Ben Greenfield: Biohacking Sleep Deprivation with NAD and Creatine
Can't that bloat you to take that much creatine?
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Episode 414: Ben Greenfield: Biohacking Sleep Deprivation with NAD and Creatine
Are you not wearing any trackers anymore because of all the EMFs?
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Episode 414: Ben Greenfield: Biohacking Sleep Deprivation with NAD and Creatine
Why?
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I love that line, by the way.
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Episode 414: Ben Greenfield: Biohacking Sleep Deprivation with NAD and Creatine
This one made me hate it. Slate's going to hate me.
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Oh, my God, I'm going to get I'm going to get fired.
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Episode 414: Ben Greenfield: Biohacking Sleep Deprivation with NAD and Creatine
But isn't that better than having, so by the way, Slate, Ben said eight out of 10. So that's still very good.
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Episode 414: Ben Greenfield: Biohacking Sleep Deprivation with NAD and Creatine
And for the average Joe, who's not Ben, who is a fitness fanatic, not health, you know, health phenom, it's a really good thing to have because you, at least it's getting 20 grams of protein into somebody who otherwise would not be having that.
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Episode 414: Ben Greenfield: Biohacking Sleep Deprivation with NAD and Creatine
And it's better than having, you know, a milkshake at McDonald's.
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Episode 414: Ben Greenfield: Biohacking Sleep Deprivation with NAD and Creatine
And also for the mitochondrial health.
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Episode 414: Ben Greenfield: Biohacking Sleep Deprivation with NAD and Creatine
From a camel?
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Episode 414: Ben Greenfield: Biohacking Sleep Deprivation with NAD and Creatine
How much is a liter of camel milk?
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Episode 414: Ben Greenfield: Biohacking Sleep Deprivation with NAD and Creatine
Because goat milk I see all the time. So are you suggesting to people that they should maybe switch from maybe even their almond milk or their oat milk to a goat milk? Would that be healthier?
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Episode 414: Ben Greenfield: Biohacking Sleep Deprivation with NAD and Creatine
But how about the carrageens in them and all that stuff like that?
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Episode 414: Ben Greenfield: Biohacking Sleep Deprivation with NAD and Creatine
Okay, that, okay.
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Episode 414: Ben Greenfield: Biohacking Sleep Deprivation with NAD and Creatine
Thank you. They're going to, they're going to hate me now for even bringing you on this podcast. That I don't care about, but here.
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Episode 414: Ben Greenfield: Biohacking Sleep Deprivation with NAD and Creatine
That's not for my free, I don't know how that got there.
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Episode 414: Ben Greenfield: Biohacking Sleep Deprivation with NAD and Creatine
Okay. This is the next one. This is magic mind. I love.
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Episode 414: Ben Greenfield: Biohacking Sleep Deprivation with NAD and Creatine
That's good. I got that for you. Okay. And then these Magic Minds. I'm blind, so I can't even read the ingredients. I do know there's amazing stuff in there.
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Episode 414: Ben Greenfield: Biohacking Sleep Deprivation with NAD and Creatine
Let me see it.
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Episode 414: Ben Greenfield: Biohacking Sleep Deprivation with NAD and Creatine
It's pretty small.
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Episode 414: Ben Greenfield: Biohacking Sleep Deprivation with NAD and Creatine
Do you believe that though?
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Episode 414: Ben Greenfield: Biohacking Sleep Deprivation with NAD and Creatine
Right. I mean, this is the whole conversation, but people are like, fruit does not get you fat, please. I mean, this nonsense. No. Fruit's not going to get you fat. Yeah, if you eat everything else, plus you eat nine pounds of grapes, like maybe I do sometimes, that can be not the greatest thing.
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Episode 414: Ben Greenfield: Biohacking Sleep Deprivation with NAD and Creatine
Okay, wait, so that's actually a good clip.
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Episode 414: Ben Greenfield: Biohacking Sleep Deprivation with NAD and Creatine
Okay, so say that one more time because I want to make sure people get that. So if you are sleep deprived, here is a cocktail that you should do that's very effective. Go ahead. Say it again.
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Episode 448: Henry Abbott: Preventing Injuries Before They Happen + The Soviet Secret to Athletic Power
We're going to talk all about how we can prevent injury instead of just treating it. And the funny thing is, not so funny to me, I hurt my knee last night. And today I have Henry on the podcast. Is that not coincidental?
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Episode 448: Henry Abbott: Preventing Injuries Before They Happen + The Soviet Secret to Athletic Power
Thank you.
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Episode 448: Henry Abbott: Preventing Injuries Before They Happen + The Soviet Secret to Athletic Power
I know, right? Of all the guests to have the day after, which is weird because I've had like a million ankle and Achilles injuries because of my love for running and cardio, which is probably terrible for my body at this point, but knees never hurt. So what's the most common injury, by the way? What is the most common injury for women? And what's the most common injury for men?
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Episode 448: Henry Abbott: Preventing Injuries Before They Happen + The Soviet Secret to Athletic Power
Yeah, we are. Are you ready?
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Episode 448: Henry Abbott: Preventing Injuries Before They Happen + The Soviet Secret to Athletic Power
I try to black, I try to like, kind of like not think about my years in high school, but I'm joking.
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Episode 448: Henry Abbott: Preventing Injuries Before They Happen + The Soviet Secret to Athletic Power
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Episode 448: Henry Abbott: Preventing Injuries Before They Happen + The Soviet Secret to Athletic Power
Horrible.
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Episode 448: Henry Abbott: Preventing Injuries Before They Happen + The Soviet Secret to Athletic Power
Well, the thing that you said was very, that I think is very interesting and kind of, I think some people know that, but maybe others don't, that everything comes from your feet or from your hips.
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Episode 448: Henry Abbott: Preventing Injuries Before They Happen + The Soviet Secret to Athletic Power
i learned about my the whole feet thing pretty recently that if your feet are not strong then your entire body is going to be prone to more injury prone to more issues basically and you you don't get power if your feet are weak and so the first question i have for you is how do we strengthen our feet so we can get more power in our body
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Episode 448: Henry Abbott: Preventing Injuries Before They Happen + The Soviet Secret to Athletic Power
No, I did not.
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Episode 448: Henry Abbott: Preventing Injuries Before They Happen + The Soviet Secret to Athletic Power
Oh yeah.
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Episode 448: Henry Abbott: Preventing Injuries Before They Happen + The Soviet Secret to Athletic Power
Okay.
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Episode 448: Henry Abbott: Preventing Injuries Before They Happen + The Soviet Secret to Athletic Power
Okay. So let's not be so like, so science-y because people are going to like, basically stop listening to this podcast. Here's what's going to happen.
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Episode 448: Henry Abbott: Preventing Injuries Before They Happen + The Soviet Secret to Athletic Power
Now I can like make up. Now they think you're an expert. Whatever. Exactly. Or they're like, I don't know what the hell this guy is saying. You know, click off.
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Episode 448: Henry Abbott: Preventing Injuries Before They Happen + The Soviet Secret to Athletic Power
Yeah. On one leg. Yeah. Okay. So let's say that, so like, let's kind of make this as simple for people as possible. So in order to strengthen our, I asked you about the feet, how to strengthen our feet. You said we need to strengthen the lower part of our calf, right?
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Episode 448: Henry Abbott: Preventing Injuries Before They Happen + The Soviet Secret to Athletic Power
Okay.
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Episode 448: Henry Abbott: Preventing Injuries Before They Happen + The Soviet Secret to Athletic Power
Okay.
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Episode 448: Henry Abbott: Preventing Injuries Before They Happen + The Soviet Secret to Athletic Power
Right. So if they say toes up, that means you should be landing on your heel. Right.
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Episode 448: Henry Abbott: Preventing Injuries Before They Happen + The Soviet Secret to Athletic Power
Okay.
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Episode 448: Henry Abbott: Preventing Injuries Before They Happen + The Soviet Secret to Athletic Power
Right. So when you jump, okay. So when you do that jump rope on the ball of your foot. Yeah. So that's what I meant. You're working out your foot right there. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I didn't mean the heel before. That was just a mistake. Edit it out. Yeah. No, no. It's okay. I just misspoke. So what are the benefits of just jumping jump rope on the ball of our foot then? Yeah.
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Episode 448: Henry Abbott: Preventing Injuries Before They Happen + The Soviet Secret to Athletic Power
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Episode 448: Henry Abbott: Preventing Injuries Before They Happen + The Soviet Secret to Athletic Power
So we're basically essentially training our nervous system. Totally.
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Episode 448: Henry Abbott: Preventing Injuries Before They Happen + The Soviet Secret to Athletic Power
right so when we could potentially have an accident like that tweak of an ankle or something we are conditioned to snap back like to to be strong enough or our reflexes to be fast enough that that won't happen absolutely right okay so that i guess because i also heard that just overall like plyometrics as you age is really important totally is that accurate too
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Episode 448: Henry Abbott: Preventing Injuries Before They Happen + The Soviet Secret to Athletic Power
Are you getting injured because you're training wrong and don't even know it? On this Fitness Friday, I'm joined by Henry Abbott. Henry is an award-winning journalist, the founder of True Hoop, and the author of the book Ballistic. We dig into the science of injury prevention, from why knee pain often starts in your feet or your hips,
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Episode 448: Henry Abbott: Preventing Injuries Before They Happen + The Soviet Secret to Athletic Power
That's amazing.
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Episode 448: Henry Abbott: Preventing Injuries Before They Happen + The Soviet Secret to Athletic Power
What's the benefit of doing plyometrics from side to side for your body?
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Episode 448: Henry Abbott: Preventing Injuries Before They Happen + The Soviet Secret to Athletic Power
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Episode 448: Henry Abbott: Preventing Injuries Before They Happen + The Soviet Secret to Athletic Power
Yeah.
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Episode 448: Henry Abbott: Preventing Injuries Before They Happen + The Soviet Secret to Athletic Power
Yeah, it makes sense. So basically, plyometrics isn't only jumping really high onto a box, right? What would fall under the plyometrics category?
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Episode 448: Henry Abbott: Preventing Injuries Before They Happen + The Soviet Secret to Athletic Power
Yeah.
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Episode 448: Henry Abbott: Preventing Injuries Before They Happen + The Soviet Secret to Athletic Power
Um, so it's all jumping basically.
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Episode 448: Henry Abbott: Preventing Injuries Before They Happen + The Soviet Secret to Athletic Power
Because what I'm scared of, to be honest, when you're talking about that broomstick and you go from side to side, from over, over, over, I would be scared that I would twist my ankle because if I'm weak in my ankles, which I am, right? Like one bad move and I'm done.
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Episode 448: Henry Abbott: Preventing Injuries Before They Happen + The Soviet Secret to Athletic Power
Probably. But it's probably like it's a chicken or the egg, right? If you're not strong enough or you have a weakness in, let's say, your lower extremity, like an ankle or whatever, your foot, and then you have to go side to side to strengthen, it's easier to get hurt that way. And then you're out for like two months. Yeah.
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Episode 430: Kris Gethin: Why Squats Are Overrated and How to Lose the Last 5 Pounds
Hi guys, it's Tony Robbins. You're listening to Habits & Hustle. Crush it! Hey friends, you're listening to Fitness Friday on the Habits & Hustle podcast where myself and my friends share quick and very actionable advice for you becoming your healthiest self. So stay tuned and let me know how you leveled up. It's easy to lose a lot of weight when you're very overweight.
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Episode 430: Kris Gethin: Why Squats Are Overrated and How to Lose the Last 5 Pounds
I also find that when you're doing too much cardio, you end up getting so much hungrier. So therefore you're eating more calories, right? Cause you're like when I'm doing, when I run, I get ravenous afterwards and I end up eating double the amount of food that I would have had if I just didn't do any cardio at all. So that's like the delicate balance, right?
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Episode 430: Kris Gethin: Why Squats Are Overrated and How to Lose the Last 5 Pounds
Like strength training doesn't make me hungry. It's the cardio that makes you hungry. And that's how, when you're eating too much, like the whole calories in, like you're now I'm consuming calories. so many more because I did this intense cardio session, you know, like how do you delicately balance that?
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Episode 430: Kris Gethin: Why Squats Are Overrated and How to Lose the Last 5 Pounds
So you don't end up eating like a monster, but still feel you get that like release of the cardio, like to get that mental, you know, endorphin rush and that, that all those dopamine, like the dopamine hit without like overeating basically.
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Episode 430: Kris Gethin: Why Squats Are Overrated and How to Lose the Last 5 Pounds
That's so true. I found that to be a really good hack. Like if when I'm really hungry, like having like some type of like sugar-free soda, like takes the edge off, I guess.
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Episode 430: Kris Gethin: Why Squats Are Overrated and How to Lose the Last 5 Pounds
I totally agree with you. I think we eat out of boredom a lot of times or out of thirst. Like if we're thirsty, we think it's hunger. So then we end up eating.
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Episode 430: Kris Gethin: Why Squats Are Overrated and How to Lose the Last 5 Pounds
It comes down to when, you know, when you have that like last five pounds, right, to lose. What are some of the best strategies that you would suggest someone to do to lose that last five pounds?
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Episode 430: Kris Gethin: Why Squats Are Overrated and How to Lose the Last 5 Pounds
Yeah, of course you do, Chris. I see that. I see that. What would you say is the most overrated exercise and the most underrated exercise?
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Episode 430: Kris Gethin: Why Squats Are Overrated and How to Lose the Last 5 Pounds
And I'm glad that you said that. Right. Because, you know, it's really interesting. Nobody will. Nobody usually says that. And, you know, this is why I don't love working out with trainers, because if I'm working out with trainers and they give you a specific exercise, I'll say, like, do this front squat. Right. Say yes. But my body mechanics won't allow me to go as low as they want me to go.
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Episode 430: Kris Gethin: Why Squats Are Overrated and How to Lose the Last 5 Pounds
Or it's because my hips are uneven or whatever that my body mechanics, my anatomy is, is why I can't do it. It has nothing to do with the strength I have or whatever it is. And like people don't take that as an okay, efficient, like a sufficient answer, right? They're like, no, no, no, you must go much lower.
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Episode 430: Kris Gethin: Why Squats Are Overrated and How to Lose the Last 5 Pounds
But like sometimes the truth is like your body structure does not do that particular exercise well. That could be, that's okay. Like I don't feel we have to kill ourselves just to prove a point.
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Episode 430: Kris Gethin: Why Squats Are Overrated and How to Lose the Last 5 Pounds
Right. You know, it's like also like, what do you think of a hip thrust?
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Episode 430: Kris Gethin: Why Squats Are Overrated and How to Lose the Last 5 Pounds
you know, that's, that's how I feel about hip thrusts. I always feel like it's uncomfortable. It's awkward. It takes a long time to get into the position. And then, you know, people are giving me shit because they're like, how are you not doing a hip thrust? I'm like, I don't like it.
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Episode 430: Kris Gethin: Why Squats Are Overrated and How to Lose the Last 5 Pounds
I have other exercises that are giving me a way bigger bang for my buck, but there's all these like absolutes out there. Like you absolutely have to do a hip thrust. You're absolutely have to do a squat. No, you don't. There's so many varieties that if they fit you and suit you better, then you can do them.
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Episode 430: Kris Gethin: Why Squats Are Overrated and How to Lose the Last 5 Pounds
But that's why when you said that, I loved it because what most trainers are like, no, no, no, you must do this. There's no way around it. I'm like, that's ridiculous. It cannot be that way.
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Episode 430: Kris Gethin: Why Squats Are Overrated and How to Lose the Last 5 Pounds
It's beyond. I agree with you. I agree with you. And it takes literally 10 minutes to get in and out of that position. I could have done 50 other things that would have been way more beneficial in that time frame. You know what I mean? And I never know how my neck should be. I'm always hurting my neck and my... Ankles are not positioned properly. It's like, oh, God.
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Episode 430: Kris Gethin: Why Squats Are Overrated and How to Lose the Last 5 Pounds
So what do you think is the most underrated exercise that people are just not doing enough of?
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Episode 430: Kris Gethin: Why Squats Are Overrated and How to Lose the Last 5 Pounds
Wow. So how often would you say you should work a body part? I mean, because we talked about overtraining, right? More is not more. What would you say to get the biggest bang for your buck? What should be the schedule that someone should do?
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Episode 422: Liron Kayvan: Healthy Travel Hacks + How to Stay Fit on the Go
Like they're putting, they're using MyFitnessPal or all these other tracking devices and they're incorporated until you know exactly what it is. By the way, like I always say to them, oh, I'm just eating a chicken breast and I'm eating this. And when I actually put that stuff into the, my daily food intake into one of these trackers.
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Episode 422: Liron Kayvan: Healthy Travel Hacks + How to Stay Fit on the Go
I'm always really surprised at how many more calories I'm actually intaking than not. Like it's always 500 plus more than I really thought.
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Episode 422: Liron Kayvan: Healthy Travel Hacks + How to Stay Fit on the Go
I don't believe, listen, that's how, I'm not, let me say this also. I don't really calorie count because like, I'm okay with like, I'm not trying to be on the cover of, you know, name it, Oxygen magazine or Fitness magazine. But what I'm saying is for people who are trying to lose fat or lose weight, right? Like who are trying to lose fat, five pounds, right?
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Episode 422: Liron Kayvan: Healthy Travel Hacks + How to Stay Fit on the Go
You have to track, you have to see what you're having. Like there has to be a calorie deficit. I think,
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Episode 422: Liron Kayvan: Healthy Travel Hacks + How to Stay Fit on the Go
Well, that's my entire point. I think it doesn't, you could be a fitness enthusiast who exercises and thinks it watches everything you're doing and exercises consistently, eats well and all the things. And then it's those people are like, I don't know why I'm not losing weight. I don't know why I'm not gaining muscle. I don't know why, because they're not tracking it properly.
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Episode 422: Liron Kayvan: Healthy Travel Hacks + How to Stay Fit on the Go
They don't know what their macro nutrients are, what they're eating, their micro, whatever. They're not, they don't know that there's at some point at, This is the truth, right? Like, it's much easier to lose 30 pounds than it is to lose 5 pounds. And if you're trying to lose 5 pounds, it is imperative that you track to see what you're doing day to day.
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Episode 422: Liron Kayvan: Healthy Travel Hacks + How to Stay Fit on the Go
You need to have a deficit in your calories if you want to lose weight. weight. Period. Full stop. There's nothing, there's no way around it. Five pounds is so difficult to lose. I mean, the smaller the amount that you're trying to tweak, the harder it is. And that's why you can't just eyeball things and just, you know, rely on your memory.
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Episode 422: Liron Kayvan: Healthy Travel Hacks + How to Stay Fit on the Go
Like, oh, I had a Greek yogurt here and I had a protein bar here and I had a piece of chicken. Without doubt, you're forgetting things that you're eating. And I think it's a really great tool if you really want to achieve a certain goal. But we can talk about that on another podcast that we're going to be doing. This is about travel. Those are my tips that I think are really important.
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Episode 422: Liron Kayvan: Healthy Travel Hacks + How to Stay Fit on the Go
Stay away from airplane food. Make sure you're walking on the plane every hour on the hour. I'm going to reiterate them. Only drink water. Stick to your routine on the trip as much as possible. Try to stay away from eating every meal at a restaurant. Try and incorporate grocery shopping. Go to a grocery store. Buy food for your room, your hotel room, or for wherever you're staying.
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Episode 422: Liron Kayvan: Healthy Travel Hacks + How to Stay Fit on the Go
Like that to me is the biggest, biggest issue with staying on track with your fitness is when you eat the food on the airplane. It is It's packed with preservatives, sodium, the highest sodium. Like the second I take a bite of that food, I have to open the button on my pants, right? Like it's so bad for you.
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Episode 422: Liron Kayvan: Healthy Travel Hacks + How to Stay Fit on the Go
It will save you so many calories down the road. Is there anything else?
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Episode 422: Liron Kayvan: Healthy Travel Hacks + How to Stay Fit on the Go
Think about the quality of food.
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Episode 422: Liron Kayvan: Healthy Travel Hacks + How to Stay Fit on the Go
I'm traveling anywhere.
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Episode 422: Liron Kayvan: Healthy Travel Hacks + How to Stay Fit on the Go
And also walk as much as you can. Walk a thousand percent. This is point number one. Yeah. Walk to your meetings as much as you can.
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Episode 422: Liron Kayvan: Healthy Travel Hacks + How to Stay Fit on the Go
Yeah. That's why I love going to New York.
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Episode 422: Liron Kayvan: Healthy Travel Hacks + How to Stay Fit on the Go
I love going to New York.
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Episode 422: Liron Kayvan: Healthy Travel Hacks + How to Stay Fit on the Go
Because I walk everywhere. It's a walking culture.
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Episode 422: Liron Kayvan: Healthy Travel Hacks + How to Stay Fit on the Go
you know, you think that like this whole idea of like living in LA and that it's like such a like outdoorsy, nobody walks anywhere. By the way, I have this rule. I talk about this incessantly is that if it's two miles or under, I will not get into a car. I absolutely refuse to get into a car. I walk everywhere. And so it's a great, it's a non-negotiable.
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Episode 422: Liron Kayvan: Healthy Travel Hacks + How to Stay Fit on the Go
That's why I love going to New York. So what I was going to say... is it's interesting because LA has this preconceived notion that it's the healthiest place to live, but yet nobody walks here. They will not walk to the grocery store if it's a quarter of a mile away.
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Episode 422: Liron Kayvan: Healthy Travel Hacks + How to Stay Fit on the Go
To me, I'm like, I purposefully live in a place where I can walk to the bank, I can walk to the grocery store, I can walk to the mall, I can walk to the gym if I need to. I want to make my life as walkable and as simple and convenient as possible for myself.
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Episode 422: Liron Kayvan: Healthy Travel Hacks + How to Stay Fit on the Go
That doesn't sound crazy to me at all. I went to look at a house recently that was beautiful, okay? But it was up in the hills. Not – you couldn't pay me money to live there. Because all I think about is, oh, my God, if I need to go get a carton of milk or if I need to go get something – Very practical way of thinking. I'm practical at the core – at the –
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Episode 422: Liron Kayvan: Healthy Travel Hacks + How to Stay Fit on the Go
core core part of me is like i can't think outside of being practical i'm a virgo that's i am very practical but like to me it's like if i can't walk to to get a carton of milk or if i can't walk to the coffee shop i cannot do it i will not do it it's not just about fitness it's like your lifestyle it's a lifestyle 100 okay that's it for me and you and everybody else guys if you if there's anything else that we're we're missing please
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Episode 422: Liron Kayvan: Healthy Travel Hacks + How to Stay Fit on the Go
Leave a comment. Did you like this episode? Did you hate this episode? Did we leave anything out about how to incorporate great ways to travel and yet still stay on your fitness path, right? Yeah. Let us know. Thanks as always, you guys, for listening. Bye-bye.
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Episode 422: Liron Kayvan: Healthy Travel Hacks + How to Stay Fit on the Go
Oh yeah.
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Episode 422: Liron Kayvan: Healthy Travel Hacks + How to Stay Fit on the Go
Like they say to you- Because it has to last forever.
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Episode 422: Liron Kayvan: Healthy Travel Hacks + How to Stay Fit on the Go
But the funny thing is like even in 2025, right? And they are giving you healthier options on the plane. They're still not healthy options. They're still not healthy options. And you can get your little snack packs, which is like the nuts and the crackers and this and that. But- To me, the best strategy is don't even think or look at the cart going by. Let it keep on going.
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Episode 422: Liron Kayvan: Healthy Travel Hacks + How to Stay Fit on the Go
Don't eat any snacks on that plane. People laugh at me because when I go on a plane, there's more food. I bring more food with me than I do clothing or anything else.
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Episode 422: Liron Kayvan: Healthy Travel Hacks + How to Stay Fit on the Go
Maybe it is, but yeah, probably.
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Episode 422: Liron Kayvan: Healthy Travel Hacks + How to Stay Fit on the Go
Maybe it is, but I will say like, this is strategy and tip number one when you are traveling is never touch the airplane food. Never, ever, ever pack everything in your carry-on. And that's what I do. I pack five. fruits and vegetables and snacks. And I bring everything from home. And like I said, like most of my, most of my, my luggage or my bags are filled with food versus clothing.
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Episode 422: Liron Kayvan: Healthy Travel Hacks + How to Stay Fit on the Go
Like I'll be, I'm much happier wearing the same pair of pants every single day and the same.
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Episode 422: Liron Kayvan: Healthy Travel Hacks + How to Stay Fit on the Go
Yeah. I'd rather have fresh food or quality food. And because the trouble I have is also that like, I don't know what happens on a plane, but the second I get on a plane, I'm starving. Yeah. Is that what happens with you too? Yeah. Yeah.
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Episode 422: Liron Kayvan: Healthy Travel Hacks + How to Stay Fit on the Go
I don't know what, and the second, and then I feel like I'm like stuck on this.
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Episode 422: Liron Kayvan: Healthy Travel Hacks + How to Stay Fit on the Go
And that's, I was going to say, because it's like a boredom factor, even though you can watch a show or whatever else, like you have this like knowledge that, okay, I'm going to be on this flight for five hours or four hours and I can't go anywhere. Yeah. What is there to eat? Like you want to like pass the time.
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Episode 422: Liron Kayvan: Healthy Travel Hacks + How to Stay Fit on the Go
So like ways to like eliminate that honestly is like, you know, like you kind of like have like this, this thing in your, you reframe it where it's like, I'm not, I'm not touching anything that comes on that cart. I have all my snacks. So there's no excuse for me not to eat that food.
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Episode 422: Liron Kayvan: Healthy Travel Hacks + How to Stay Fit on the Go
All right, guys, welcome back to Fitness Friday with my friend, Leron. Hello, Leron.
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Episode 422: Liron Kayvan: Healthy Travel Hacks + How to Stay Fit on the Go
And, like, you're also, like, constrained to your seat. Yeah. And it's like, to me, like, another great strategy is, like, don't drink anything besides water or, like, that's what I do. Yeah. I only have water. Yeah. Because right away, like, I guess the air pressure can make you much more, it changes your body. Yeah.
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Episode 422: Liron Kayvan: Healthy Travel Hacks + How to Stay Fit on the Go
Right. So that's why the other thing I think is super important is to keep your routine as much as possible. Like have like your regimen or your routine and try to maintain it as best, I'm not saying perfectly, but as much as possible. But also while you're on the plane,
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Episode 422: Liron Kayvan: Healthy Travel Hacks + How to Stay Fit on the Go
Thank you for coming.
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Episode 422: Liron Kayvan: Healthy Travel Hacks + How to Stay Fit on the Go
Make it, like, you should set an alarm that every hour that you walk up and down the aisles, because that, again, being sedentary for so long is just so bad for you, right? Like, to me... Stretch, stretching. Stretching, like, it causes, like, I start getting sciatica because I'm sitting too long, like, all of these things, right? Like, you have to make a concerted effort to...
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Episode 422: Liron Kayvan: Healthy Travel Hacks + How to Stay Fit on the Go
I have a topic that I want to talk about that I think is really, really important. And we don't only hear it as often as I thought we could, not could, but we should, is this is going to be an episode about fitness and travel and how to stay on point with your health and fitness goals while traveling. Because the truth is so many people who listen to this podcast travel a lot.
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Episode 422: Liron Kayvan: Healthy Travel Hacks + How to Stay Fit on the Go
to do these things and know that like, okay, I'm traveling. These are my hard no's. These are like things that are non-negotiable. I'm not allowed to eat the food on the plane. I have to walk up and down the aisles every hour on the hour and I'm only allowed to drink water.
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Episode 422: Liron Kayvan: Healthy Travel Hacks + How to Stay Fit on the Go
That will help you 50%, literally 50% with keeping your goals for your health and your fitness by just doing those three things. The other thing is staying on that routine as much as you can. Whenever I get off of a plane, if I'm going somewhere far, I make myself like move my body for 30 minutes afterwards. I have to like walk around the hotel, go on a treadmill in the gym.
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Episode 422: Liron Kayvan: Healthy Travel Hacks + How to Stay Fit on the Go
Every hotel now or wherever you're going has a gym. take advantage of it, like, first thing, I think.
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Episode 422: Liron Kayvan: Healthy Travel Hacks + How to Stay Fit on the Go
No matter where I am around the world, I try to stay on my routine as best as I can. And I work out every day, no matter what, no matter what the jet lag, no matter what the time difference is. I'm talking also about like business people traveling, like when they don't have, they're not with their family, right?
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Episode 422: Liron Kayvan: Healthy Travel Hacks + How to Stay Fit on the Go
It's just, it's really hard to like stay on point if you're somebody who's like a consultant and you're always on a plane.
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Episode 422: Liron Kayvan: Healthy Travel Hacks + How to Stay Fit on the Go
Yeah. I'm talking about like work travel. I'm not even talking about family. I'm talking about it, by the way, all travel, but a big part of that is like work travel. Like I'm traveling a lot for work. I'm going to different places for consulting gigs or speaking gigs. And like, if you're always on a plane, that's part of your, as an entrepreneur, that's part of your life.
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Episode 422: Liron Kayvan: Healthy Travel Hacks + How to Stay Fit on the Go
You know, like you have to like integrate these things to make it a non-negotiable and make it habitual.
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Episode 422: Liron Kayvan: Healthy Travel Hacks + How to Stay Fit on the Go
You have to plan ahead for everything in life.
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Episode 422: Liron Kayvan: Healthy Travel Hacks + How to Stay Fit on the Go
A hundred percent. I also think just because there is such a thing, and I think this is a big one, it's the 80-20 rule, right? Like 80% of what you do is your nutrition and 20% is your fitness stuff, right? So you really have to watch what you eat when you're traveling. If you are, if you really want to, you know, maintain or achieve your goals, it's
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Episode 422: Liron Kayvan: Healthy Travel Hacks + How to Stay Fit on the Go
A lot of it is about what you put in your mouth, not what you're doing in the gym. So making better choices. Now the issue is portions. Again, it's always, a lot of it comes down to portions. For whatever reason, psychologically, it's been shown that when we are traveling, we tend to eat way more than we do when we're back in our own regimen at home, right?
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Episode 422: Liron Kayvan: Healthy Travel Hacks + How to Stay Fit on the Go
So if you're conscious of that and conscientious of that, make sure that when you are traveling and That your portions are not crazy, like half the portion at the restaurant you're going to. Or what I do a lot is I go to a grocery store and I buy a bunch of food and I bring it back to my hotel. And so I'm not relying on like restaurant food that also when you...
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Episode 422: Liron Kayvan: Healthy Travel Hacks + How to Stay Fit on the Go
The more you eat at restaurants, the amount of calories that are added just by the sheer cooking, the way they're cooking the food. The oils. The oils and all the added stuff. It adds up so fast. I go to the grocery store and I buy sliced turkey. I buy myself my fruits and my vegetables and things that I know what is in it.
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Episode 422: Liron Kayvan: Healthy Travel Hacks + How to Stay Fit on the Go
They're entrepreneurs. They're people who just are on the go a lot. And it's really hard to stick to a program when you're constantly flying. And what really kind of gave me this idea was in the last few months, I've been traveling way more than I have in the past. in the last six months, I should say.
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Episode 422: Liron Kayvan: Healthy Travel Hacks + How to Stay Fit on the Go
Does that make sense? Yeah. I love people who know me. I mean, you don't know me that well, but people who know me well know that I'm like, I love the grocery store to me going to Costco or going to like Whole Foods and like walking the aisles is like my like my like happy place. To me, I love it.
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Episode 422: Liron Kayvan: Healthy Travel Hacks + How to Stay Fit on the Go
And so I realize that most people don't love it, but I'm telling you, if you really are serious about, you know, you can't have it both. You can't have it both ways. Like there's always a give and take in the world, right? Like if you want something, you have to like take away something else, right? Like as much as I love to eat, you know, these amazing meals at a restaurant, every single meal,
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Episode 422: Liron Kayvan: Healthy Travel Hacks + How to Stay Fit on the Go
I know what the result's going to be. So I don't do it. I make sure that I'm very reticent and cognizant of making my own food as much as possible. With that being said, if someone, again, you may not like the grocery store like I do, but if you actually try to incorporate that into your travel, it will save you so many calories of eating every single meal out at a restaurant.
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Episode 422: Liron Kayvan: Healthy Travel Hacks + How to Stay Fit on the Go
Even if you're traveling for two days and you're eating out lunch, breakfast, and dinner, even breakfast is much more. That you can make it in your room.
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Episode 422: Liron Kayvan: Healthy Travel Hacks + How to Stay Fit on the Go
Me too.
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Episode 422: Liron Kayvan: Healthy Travel Hacks + How to Stay Fit on the Go
Well, I think that, I think just overall eating at restaurants too much will make you gain weight. There's no way around it. There's no way around it.
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Episode 422: Liron Kayvan: Healthy Travel Hacks + How to Stay Fit on the Go
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Episode 422: Liron Kayvan: Healthy Travel Hacks + How to Stay Fit on the Go
And no matter how much I worked out or ate okay while I wasn't traveling, the travel killed me, right? Like I just gained weight or I couldn't, it was really, really hard for me. And what I noticed that really worked for me, the first thing that really I noticed is staying away from the food on the airplane.
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Episode 422: Liron Kayvan: Healthy Travel Hacks + How to Stay Fit on the Go
If you want to, for like, there are like a very, there's a very like, small percentage of people who are just like naturally very lean. Okay. God bless you people. But for the majority of people, if they want a certain aesthetic, if they're eating out every single meal, there's not a chance that they're going to be able to maintain their overall body fat, their aesthetics.
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Episode 422: Liron Kayvan: Healthy Travel Hacks + How to Stay Fit on the Go
Listen, you can make better choices. You can make better choices. There's a difference though. I mean, even with the best choices... what will happen? You can make the best restaurant choice on the planet. You can go the most organic, the most, you know, farm to table restaurant on the planet. You will eat a bigger portion, way more at a restaurant than you would at your own home, number one.
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Episode 422: Liron Kayvan: Healthy Travel Hacks + How to Stay Fit on the Go
And there's always hidden ingredients that you may not know about, right? Because to make food taste good, they add extra oil, extra butter, extra something, something that you don't know about that you're not taking into account. And if you really have a goal that you're trying to achieve, you have to track what your food intake is, right? Like the people who get to the result are using trackers.
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Episode 456: Why Half Your Supplements Are Probably Useless (And Which 4 Actually Matter)
Grab it today. Okay, so let me just finish what I was saying about supplements and I want to like stay on target here. So number one, know the source that you're getting them from, very important. Get your blood tested before you take it so you know what you're actually deficient in and get it retested six months later.
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Episode 456: Why Half Your Supplements Are Probably Useless (And Which 4 Actually Matter)
You should be getting your blood tested every six months just to know that you're on point. And don't over supplement. And the other thing I wanted to say was cycle your supplements because I think your bodies can also become very, this is how I see it. Like if I take my, I've got really bad allergies.
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Episode 456: Why Half Your Supplements Are Probably Useless (And Which 4 Actually Matter)
And if I take my allergy medication every single day, my body becomes immune to the effects of it. So it doesn't even work. I become desensitized. so i have to cycle everything i cycle my supplements too so i'll do like with my allergy medication i'll do two weeks on four days off two weeks on because i because if i don't take my allergy medication it's like i'm a mess
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Episode 456: Why Half Your Supplements Are Probably Useless (And Which 4 Actually Matter)
Yeah, well, the allergies, it's really bad right now. But you need to cycle everything. So if you're taking, whatever you're taking, whatever you're supplementing with, you need to like give it a break, like three weeks on, one week off, one month on, one month off, just so your body doesn't get acclimated to anything. And I find that to be super helpful.
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Episode 456: Why Half Your Supplements Are Probably Useless (And Which 4 Actually Matter)
There's also like, I should say also, there's other things that I kind of like weave in my routine, but I don't take it as often as I do the omega-3, the creatine, and like the, what was the other one? NAD, what was the other one I said? Magnesium at night. I take, sometimes I take liposomal vitamin C once in a while, and I take NAC. Do you know what NAC is?
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Episode 456: Why Half Your Supplements Are Probably Useless (And Which 4 Actually Matter)
It's like the precursor to glutathione, which is like a massively strong best antioxidant. So I take that sometimes too.
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Episode 456: Why Half Your Supplements Are Probably Useless (And Which 4 Actually Matter)
No, I don't feel a difference at all with anything, but I will say that's to be true if I was being honest. But that to me is because I think it's like, I was told if you take it all the time, again, like it doesn't have the same effect.
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Episode 456: Why Half Your Supplements Are Probably Useless (And Which 4 Actually Matter)
Yeah. There's a lot of supplements I'm not even understanding. I'm just like, why? Why? But okay, well, hopefully that was a little bit informative for you guys. This is supposed to be very short to the point episode. So hopefully you gleaned at least a couple of things, right? Get your blood checked, cycle your supplement so your body doesn't get acclimated to it. Don't over supplement.
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Episode 456: Why Half Your Supplements Are Probably Useless (And Which 4 Actually Matter)
Net program episode. I know, I know. Fitness Friday fun, I know. And Lerone's joining me yet again. And we pick a topic and we just like blab for a few minutes and then we cut it. So remember guys, very important. We'd love feedback on Habits and Hustle. The more feedback, the better. Please let us know what you think. If there's something you want us to talk about, all the things.
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Don't replace it with your diet and or exercise and or sleep. It's a supplement for a reason called supplementing your stuff. And yeah, check out Leroy. What's your Instagram?
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And don't forget to subscribe. With that being said, what do you think about the topic that I just chose, which is supplements?
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Episode 456: Why Half Your Supplements Are Probably Useless (And Which 4 Actually Matter)
the place of eating properly and eating well and with a lot of different nutrients that our bodies crave and need. It doesn't take the place of exercise. It doesn't take the place of sleep. It helps with overall, you know, your overall health. And by the way, a lot of these supplements don't do anything.
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Episode 456: Why Half Your Supplements Are Probably Useless (And Which 4 Actually Matter)
I think we're living in a time when we are all chasing youth and longevity has become such a huge, huge brand in itself that people keep on creating these products that actually have zero, there's no FDA regulation on any of these things. There's zero efficacy on these things. And so like, I believe that people need to be super, super careful about
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Episode 456: Why Half Your Supplements Are Probably Useless (And Which 4 Actually Matter)
of where and who they're getting their information and do their research. Because a ton of supplements that come my way, I'm like, are you kidding me? It's snake oil. There's certain things I think are really good, but I know the source.
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Episode 456: Why Half Your Supplements Are Probably Useless (And Which 4 Actually Matter)
And I think that there are certain supplements that are essential because we can't get it in our foods necessarily, or that, like I said, I think they're doing a very specific thing. But overall, I mean... You can't just be like taking everything willy-nilly. So this is the stuff that I think is really important. Are you ready? And then I want to hear your list, okay?
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Episode 456: Why Half Your Supplements Are Probably Useless (And Which 4 Actually Matter)
I think that omega-3 is really important. I think vitamin D with K2 has to be taken together or it's not going to do what you need it to do. It won't digest, absorb. I think that creatine is very important. It's not just for bodybuilders anymore. And I believe, well, protein, that's not really a supplement. And I also do take NAD. I take traniogen.
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Episode 456: Why Half Your Supplements Are Probably Useless (And Which 4 Actually Matter)
And the reason why I've been taking that is because it's a molecule that our bodies actually make that we actually stop making. I think after the age of 30 as we age. But what this does, it's a precursor. So it basically tells your body, basically you take the supplement, but it gets your body to make it on its own.
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Episode 456: Why Half Your Supplements Are Probably Useless (And Which 4 Actually Matter)
Way better thing.
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Episode 456: Why Half Your Supplements Are Probably Useless (And Which 4 Actually Matter)
Than just like taking something that's a supplement on, like that's it.
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Episode 456: Why Half Your Supplements Are Probably Useless (And Which 4 Actually Matter)
And so a lot of these other things are complete, I hate to say it, completely unnecessary. Yeah. And it's just like, you're throwing your money down the drain.
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Episode 456: Why Half Your Supplements Are Probably Useless (And Which 4 Actually Matter)
I want to say one thing about creatine because I just read this study yesterday. They did a huge thing for like a big research that just came out, I think a couple of days ago, how creatine actually improves Alzheimer's.
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You saw that?
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Episode 456: Why Half Your Supplements Are Probably Useless (And Which 4 Actually Matter)
My mom was diagnosed with Alzheimer's.
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Episode 456: Why Half Your Supplements Are Probably Useless (And Which 4 Actually Matter)
Three months ago.
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Episode 456: Why Half Your Supplements Are Probably Useless (And Which 4 Actually Matter)
It's really sad. And so I, I, I'm really always on the lookout for anything that can like, just like give her like a 0.01% advantage.
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Episode 456: Why Half Your Supplements Are Probably Useless (And Which 4 Actually Matter)
No. So let me just say that again for people, because I think this is really important. If you know of somebody or if you have any type of, I think for, I shouldn't even say that. What I should say is just forget about the muscle for lean muscle mass. Forget about performance. Let's put that aside.
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Episode 456: Why Half Your Supplements Are Probably Useless (And Which 4 Actually Matter)
If you're somebody who just wants to have overall better brain health, it helps with your memory and overall cognitive skills, you should start taking creatine. Yeah. You should start taking it. Yeah. because I think it's very, very helpful. But I would say also, and that's not me, that's the study that we saw. But I do think also knowing where you're getting it from, very important.
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Episode 456: Why Half Your Supplements Are Probably Useless (And Which 4 Actually Matter)
Well, you have to make sure, this is another thing, if you're going to take any supplements, make sure they're third-party tested. Make sure that they have a really high regulation. So I take Momentous because they have an NSF regulation and they're third-party tested, which means, I think NSF is like the highest you can have. And so it's a trusted source.
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Episode 456: Why Half Your Supplements Are Probably Useless (And Which 4 Actually Matter)
So if you don't want to, I don't care what brand you take, but make sure you're not just taking some like, you know, brand that you saw on...
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Episode 456: Why Half Your Supplements Are Probably Useless (And Which 4 Actually Matter)
Instagram that your favorite influencer is taking because who knows they can be getting paid for it you never know and I also think that if you're going for creatine have you heard of whitewash versus acid wash no I think that's what it's called I'm not sure but the one I the momentous one it has it's creopure I think it is that's whitewash I don't even know what that means exactly but I don't I listened to Dr. Stacey Sims and she said that's very important
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Episode 456: Why Half Your Supplements Are Probably Useless (And Which 4 Actually Matter)
Yeah, so I also interrupted you. I'm sorry. Tell me what you take.
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Episode 456: Why Half Your Supplements Are Probably Useless (And Which 4 Actually Matter)
Are you talking about creatine still? Yeah. Yeah. Okay.
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Episode 456: Why Half Your Supplements Are Probably Useless (And Which 4 Actually Matter)
Like you get it in meat, right? Red meat. That's what I'm saying. Right? Like you could get a lot of these things. I mean-
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Episode 456: Why Half Your Supplements Are Probably Useless (And Which 4 Actually Matter)
People don't eat enough protein. But the other thing, oh, I find this also, I kind of like, I was remiss. I also forgot. I also take at night, not in the morning, I take magnesium. Yeah. Again, same thing.
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Episode 456: Why Half Your Supplements Are Probably Useless (And Which 4 Actually Matter)
And that's why they're trusted by all 32 NFL teams and top collegiate sports dieticians across the country. Here's the thing. They don't sell every supplement under the sun because they believe in nailing the basics with rock-solid consistency. And those basics are protein and creatine.
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Episode 456: Why Half Your Supplements Are Probably Useless (And Which 4 Actually Matter)
But I want to say something also. So what, you take magnesium? I take magnesium too, yes. Okay. So you take magnesium, you take creatine. Anything else?
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Episode 456: Why Half Your Supplements Are Probably Useless (And Which 4 Actually Matter)
So this is the thing, like you can talk to- Brain performance. There's so many different things out there that say that they are for brain health, but do they really help brain health? Like I have a reason for taking everything. I take like the truniogen for recovery and for energy and cellular health. I take my vitamin D for, I mean, I think everyone takes vitamin D at this point.
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Episode 456: Why Half Your Supplements Are Probably Useless (And Which 4 Actually Matter)
I take omega-3, I mean, I take omega-3- I don't take vitamin D, by the way. You don't? No. Why?
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Episode 456: Why Half Your Supplements Are Probably Useless (And Which 4 Actually Matter)
So that's interesting. So they say even with sunlight, because we live in California. Some people are low.
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Episode 456: Why Half Your Supplements Are Probably Useless (And Which 4 Actually Matter)
You know what I will say?
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Episode 456: Why Half Your Supplements Are Probably Useless (And Which 4 Actually Matter)
I want to say something else that I think it's important for people to make sure before they even supplement to get it blood panel. Yeah. To see where you're deficient.
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Don't just like, just like...
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Episode 456: Why Half Your Supplements Are Probably Useless (And Which 4 Actually Matter)
randomly oh okay you know willy-nilly just start taking something because you may think that you need vitamin d like but not need it or you may think you don't need something and then need it yeah and then also get retested again in six months to see if it's working or your supplements actually being absorbed to see to see if your supplements are even being absorbed or if now you're over if you're you might be over the limit that you should be that's what happened with me and vitamin d
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I was taking like, you know, the 5,000 ICUs, like everyone says to take. And then I was taking it for so long that when I got my blood back, I was like, they were like, actually, you're taking too much of it. You got to back off.
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know you're working with nature is my point you should be working with nature and you should learn a little bit about how nature works and use that as a springboard for you i think that's honestly no offense but i think that's a little complicated to work with nature and know how nature works that's not really how most people would no they don't but i think it would fix a lot or like why don't you just like be like kind of be kind of like in tune with where where you have sympathy
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Episode 456: Why Half Your Supplements Are Probably Useless (And Which 4 Actually Matter)
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Episode 456: Why Half Your Supplements Are Probably Useless (And Which 4 Actually Matter)
I am. No, that's because I don't like to sit still and I think better when I move. And so I walk and do my phone call. But that's instinctual.
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Episode 456: Why Half Your Supplements Are Probably Useless (And Which 4 Actually Matter)
And so I think better when I walk and that's the other thing. And what's the other reason why I like to walk? Oh, my mood. My mood. Most important thing. Because if I don't move for an extended period of time, my mood dips. My energy dips. Energy begets energy. Like the more I move, the more energy I have. The less I move, the less energy I have.
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That's why when people say they don't like, they're too tired to exercise, I never understand that. Because if you actually exercise, you will feel way more energetic afterwards.
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Most of the time I work out, most of the time I work out, I'm not in the mood. I'm very rarely interested in like working out. I'm exhausted. I'm tired. I've got a ton of shit to do, but I, Every single time I've done it, I feel way better and I get more done and I have way more energy. And that workout actually wasn't as bad as I thought. It's the first 5, 10, 15 minutes that suck.
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Episode 404: Liron Kayvan on ADD: Misdiagnosis, Overmedication and Strategies for Channeling it for Success
Hi guys, it's Tony Robbins. You're listening to Habits & Hustle. Crush it.
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Episode 404: Liron Kayvan on ADD: Misdiagnosis, Overmedication and Strategies for Channeling it for Success
Without working for it. So in nature, you would have to work for every reward you got, right? you'd very rarely get a big, fast dopamine hit without having to put in some effort, which I know you're all about effort, right? Yeah, I am. You're all about striving and being bold and taking action towards something and not just having things delivered to you on a plate.
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Episode 404: Liron Kayvan on ADD: Misdiagnosis, Overmedication and Strategies for Channeling it for Success
We think we want that, but that's not what we want. It's not what's good for us to be just delivered something. And that's probably the ultimate first world problem is We are given things too easy. Our life is too easy. And so we find a way to make it hard because it interferes with our wiring. It interferes with how we were meant to be.
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Episode 404: Liron Kayvan on ADD: Misdiagnosis, Overmedication and Strategies for Channeling it for Success
We were meant to take action and strive and have delayed gratification.
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Episode 404: Liron Kayvan on ADD: Misdiagnosis, Overmedication and Strategies for Channeling it for Success
You work with, you know a lot of celebrities, like Hollywood types.
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Episode 404: Liron Kayvan on ADD: Misdiagnosis, Overmedication and Strategies for Channeling it for Success
Yeah, you know a few. Have you noticed that that is quite common amongst the Hollywood types? Because when I first moved to LA, I worked in Hollywood just a little bit and I observed them. And they're an interesting bunch.
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Episode 404: Liron Kayvan on ADD: Misdiagnosis, Overmedication and Strategies for Channeling it for Success
They're an interesting bunch, but I think maybe there's quite a bit with that because they get so much fame and money and love and these unnatural amounts of adoration that we wouldn't, again, be wired towards. Yeah. And they get it so fast.
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Episode 404: Liron Kayvan on ADD: Misdiagnosis, Overmedication and Strategies for Channeling it for Success
And I'm not saying they don't deserve it, because a lot of them were going to get rejection after rejection after rejection, you know, like going to casting calls and... No, but most people don't deserve it.
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Episode 404: Liron Kayvan on ADD: Misdiagnosis, Overmedication and Strategies for Channeling it for Success
Right.
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Episode 404: Liron Kayvan on ADD: Misdiagnosis, Overmedication and Strategies for Channeling it for Success
It's just like... They do seem quite deluded after a while, especially if they've been famous for a while. For a long time.
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Episode 404: Liron Kayvan on ADD: Misdiagnosis, Overmedication and Strategies for Channeling it for Success
Because you grew up with that.
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Episode 404: Liron Kayvan on ADD: Misdiagnosis, Overmedication and Strategies for Channeling it for Success
Michael Jackson.
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Episode 404: Liron Kayvan on ADD: Misdiagnosis, Overmedication and Strategies for Channeling it for Success
So I think that speaks again to what you were saying about validating where you're at. Like if someone is... not hasn't made it in whatever avenue they're talking about whether it's business or a relationship or family or you know fitness or whatever it is money the fact that it's taking a lot longer for them could actually be a good thing
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Episode 404: Liron Kayvan on ADD: Misdiagnosis, Overmedication and Strategies for Channeling it for Success
You're saying there's a difference between people who's obsessed with their craft and Versus the results and the rewards of the craft.
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Episode 404: Liron Kayvan on ADD: Misdiagnosis, Overmedication and Strategies for Channeling it for Success
We talk about fitness a lot. We talk mostly about fitness and mostly about just other stuff in general. That's probably only 5% of our conversations are about fitness.
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Episode 404: Liron Kayvan on ADD: Misdiagnosis, Overmedication and Strategies for Channeling it for Success
Yeah. Which is cheating the system.
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Episode 404: Liron Kayvan on ADD: Misdiagnosis, Overmedication and Strategies for Channeling it for Success
That's kind of what we're talking about in general. Like my philosophy on basically all problems is that there's a mismatch between how we were meant to be, how we're naturally wired and our environment. And that's the same with mental health problems, the same with physical health problems, the same with everything.
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Episode 404: Liron Kayvan on ADD: Misdiagnosis, Overmedication and Strategies for Channeling it for Success
But I think all of that is really, all these issues come from trying to kind of cheat the system. Like, again, try to get rewards for not doing the work in the first place. Right, they're all hacks.
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Episode 404: Liron Kayvan on ADD: Misdiagnosis, Overmedication and Strategies for Channeling it for Success
Maybe you're not prepared for that level of success. It's a hollow victory. Yeah, maybe you're not going to be able to sustain that. Yeah.
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Episode 404: Liron Kayvan on ADD: Misdiagnosis, Overmedication and Strategies for Channeling it for Success
No, it's not.
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Episode 404: Liron Kayvan on ADD: Misdiagnosis, Overmedication and Strategies for Channeling it for Success
Very little. We just gloss over it and carry on. Which is funny because I like... When we do, we record it, you know?
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Episode 404: Liron Kayvan on ADD: Misdiagnosis, Overmedication and Strategies for Channeling it for Success
No, clearly not. Clearly not. I mean, if you look at younger people, it's depressing how much they're depressed, how easily they're depressed, how anxious they are and how... It's kind of a horrible thing to say about them, but how weak they are, you know, to a large degree when you... Soft.
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Episode 404: Liron Kayvan on ADD: Misdiagnosis, Overmedication and Strategies for Channeling it for Success
I feel like they have next to... Again, I'm being harsh. And there's definitely smart kids out there, but a lot of them seem to have no critical thinking capability whatsoever and will just literally eat whatever's in front of them.
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Episode 404: Liron Kayvan on ADD: Misdiagnosis, Overmedication and Strategies for Channeling it for Success
Especially because the type of person who's going to be drinking it shouldn't have that. It probably doesn't have that.
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Episode 404: Liron Kayvan on ADD: Misdiagnosis, Overmedication and Strategies for Channeling it for Success
For two. For two.
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Episode 404: Liron Kayvan on ADD: Misdiagnosis, Overmedication and Strategies for Channeling it for Success
I don't get who shops there. I mean, if you're going to pick up one or two things or get lunch, I understand. But like, who's doing that grocery shopping here?
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Episode 404: Liron Kayvan on ADD: Misdiagnosis, Overmedication and Strategies for Channeling it for Success
I have, from time to time, yeah.
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Episode 404: Liron Kayvan on ADD: Misdiagnosis, Overmedication and Strategies for Channeling it for Success
It seems to be packed every time I go.
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Episode 404: Liron Kayvan on ADD: Misdiagnosis, Overmedication and Strategies for Channeling it for Success
Well, I think it's important to have a life too.
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Episode 404: Liron Kayvan on ADD: Misdiagnosis, Overmedication and Strategies for Channeling it for Success
Ten times the price of what they would be at literally any other grocery store.
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Episode 404: Liron Kayvan on ADD: Misdiagnosis, Overmedication and Strategies for Channeling it for Success
No, it's trendy.
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Episode 404: Liron Kayvan on ADD: Misdiagnosis, Overmedication and Strategies for Channeling it for Success
That's a huge thing. Their propensity towards whatever the trend is. That's what I'm saying. I don't think they even care. It's like, oh, the cool kids are doing it, then I have to...
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Episode 404: Liron Kayvan on ADD: Misdiagnosis, Overmedication and Strategies for Channeling it for Success
No, it doesn't. It's something you can strive towards, but I don't think you ever actually get it.
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Episode 404: Liron Kayvan on ADD: Misdiagnosis, Overmedication and Strategies for Channeling it for Success
If Arrow One pay me to do it.
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Episode 404: Liron Kayvan on ADD: Misdiagnosis, Overmedication and Strategies for Channeling it for Success
Which itself is a little bit of a scam. It is a scam, but we'll get into that after.
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Episode 404: Liron Kayvan on ADD: Misdiagnosis, Overmedication and Strategies for Channeling it for Success
That's business though. Like I always kind of, I always get into these things and I flip it. Like I'm thinking from a business perspective. Good for everyone. If you're Erewhon, that's your job in America. They are genius.
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Episode 404: Liron Kayvan on ADD: Misdiagnosis, Overmedication and Strategies for Channeling it for Success
I don't get how they do it. I don't get why it works. But that is a brilliant business.
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Episode 404: Liron Kayvan on ADD: Misdiagnosis, Overmedication and Strategies for Channeling it for Success
It's also a status thing. I think people, one of the things that people like makes human behavior look more complex than it is, is, is disregarding like basic human nature that we want to have status. Like the thing that most people want more than anything else is to be high status, like more than their health, they would sacrifice their health.
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Episode 404: Liron Kayvan on ADD: Misdiagnosis, Overmedication and Strategies for Channeling it for Success
Am I balanced? Yeah. Is my work-life balance perfect? Am I playing enough? Am I working enough? No, yeah. You're never in that state.
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Episode 404: Liron Kayvan on ADD: Misdiagnosis, Overmedication and Strategies for Channeling it for Success
Yeah.
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Episode 404: Liron Kayvan on ADD: Misdiagnosis, Overmedication and Strategies for Channeling it for Success
Yeah. But you need that starter culture, which starts from some celebrity endorsement or whatever.
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Episode 404: Liron Kayvan on ADD: Misdiagnosis, Overmedication and Strategies for Channeling it for Success
Not overt ones, like subtle?
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Episode 404: Liron Kayvan on ADD: Misdiagnosis, Overmedication and Strategies for Channeling it for Success
You're always unbalanced in some way.
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Episode 404: Liron Kayvan on ADD: Misdiagnosis, Overmedication and Strategies for Channeling it for Success
And is that generally the case?
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Episode 404: Liron Kayvan on ADD: Misdiagnosis, Overmedication and Strategies for Channeling it for Success
From just having lunch.
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Episode 404: Liron Kayvan on ADD: Misdiagnosis, Overmedication and Strategies for Channeling it for Success
Not everyone. Not everyone.
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Episode 404: Liron Kayvan on ADD: Misdiagnosis, Overmedication and Strategies for Channeling it for Success
Thank you. Thank you for having me.
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Episode 404: Liron Kayvan on ADD: Misdiagnosis, Overmedication and Strategies for Channeling it for Success
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Episode 404: Liron Kayvan on ADD: Misdiagnosis, Overmedication and Strategies for Channeling it for Success
Yeah, we'll do another one on fitness. Yeah, we're going to do one right now. We'll probably start on fitness and just gloss over it like we always do.
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Episode 404: Liron Kayvan on ADD: Misdiagnosis, Overmedication and Strategies for Channeling it for Success
I think most successful people have that too. They get a little bit obsessed about things. Yeah. It's like a healthy obsession.
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Episode 404: Liron Kayvan on ADD: Misdiagnosis, Overmedication and Strategies for Channeling it for Success
This is your next book, Jen?
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Episode 404: Liron Kayvan on ADD: Misdiagnosis, Overmedication and Strategies for Channeling it for Success
How to succeed with ADD.
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Episode 404: Liron Kayvan on ADD: Misdiagnosis, Overmedication and Strategies for Channeling it for Success
There's actually a study, sorry to interject, but there was a study that said that there's a gene for ADD. And what they found is that that gene, when you look at like primitive people, like tribesmen and, you know, people, cavemen, essentially like modern day hunter gatherers, that gene made them really good at hunting and gathering.
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Episode 404: Liron Kayvan on ADD: Misdiagnosis, Overmedication and Strategies for Channeling it for Success
So it was actually a very adaptive gene and it made them very successful in their tribe. What gene? Something like GNP403. You know what I mean? It's a very specific gene that is either associated or causes ADD. So they have mapped this out. They can see where ADD is in the brain and some people are predisposed towards it.
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Episode 404: Liron Kayvan on ADD: Misdiagnosis, Overmedication and Strategies for Channeling it for Success
But that was adaptive, meaning that was beneficial in our natural environment. It's only in the modern school system and so on and so forth where it becomes like bad, maladaptive.
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Episode 404: Liron Kayvan on ADD: Misdiagnosis, Overmedication and Strategies for Channeling it for Success
Do you think that you get bored easily? Yeah. And do you think that's a good thing?
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Episode 404: Liron Kayvan on ADD: Misdiagnosis, Overmedication and Strategies for Channeling it for Success
No?
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Episode 404: Liron Kayvan on ADD: Misdiagnosis, Overmedication and Strategies for Channeling it for Success
I don't know. I'm not ADD. Oh, excuse me.
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Episode 404: Liron Kayvan on ADD: Misdiagnosis, Overmedication and Strategies for Channeling it for Success
I don't really know too much about it, to be honest with you, aside from what I just told you before.
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Episode 404: Liron Kayvan on ADD: Misdiagnosis, Overmedication and Strategies for Channeling it for Success
Yeah, just whip it out.
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Episode 404: Liron Kayvan on ADD: Misdiagnosis, Overmedication and Strategies for Channeling it for Success
Oh, I'm ADD. Oh, I'm OCD.
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Episode 404: Liron Kayvan on ADD: Misdiagnosis, Overmedication and Strategies for Channeling it for Success
I'm being ADD, like, right now about this thing. Yeah.
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Episode 404: Liron Kayvan on ADD: Misdiagnosis, Overmedication and Strategies for Channeling it for Success
Like the horoscope. Someone's like, oh, I'm Capricorn. So I do X, Y, Z. And they just like excuse it off. Like they have to take responsibility for it because they've labeled it. Oh, I'm this. I'm sorry. I'm this. I can't do this.
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Episode 404: Liron Kayvan on ADD: Misdiagnosis, Overmedication and Strategies for Channeling it for Success
But you also recognize that that part of your identity doesn't encapsulate who you are as a person. It's an aspect of your personality and you don't let it... You still take responsibility for your life. I think the problem is when we get labeled with anything, literally anything, like... It could be ADD, but it could also be your political affiliation. It could be your horoscope.
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Episode 404: Liron Kayvan on ADD: Misdiagnosis, Overmedication and Strategies for Channeling it for Success
It could be your ethnicity. It could be anything. Like we sometimes take our labels too seriously and we make it our whole self. And then it becomes a problem, usually.
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Episode 404: Liron Kayvan on ADD: Misdiagnosis, Overmedication and Strategies for Channeling it for Success
Does anyone think that's good, apart from the people who are giving the medications?
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Episode 404: Liron Kayvan on ADD: Misdiagnosis, Overmedication and Strategies for Channeling it for Success
It's fantastic for big pharma.
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Episode 404: Liron Kayvan on ADD: Misdiagnosis, Overmedication and Strategies for Channeling it for Success
I've seen that. I can actually think of someone very specific who is a younger person, 20, about to be 21. And they do that all the time. They make their labels, their identity. And I can see it limits them tremendously in life. But they also use it as a crutch to just get out of things. Oh, I'm ADD. Oh, I'm XYZ.
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Episode 404: Liron Kayvan on ADD: Misdiagnosis, Overmedication and Strategies for Channeling it for Success
And you can see they're using it in a way that I think they think it's to their advantage, but you can see clearly this is like really limiting this person.
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Episode 404: Liron Kayvan on ADD: Misdiagnosis, Overmedication and Strategies for Channeling it for Success
Because of the diagnoses.
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Episode 404: Liron Kayvan on ADD: Misdiagnosis, Overmedication and Strategies for Channeling it for Success
A lot of times they'll go into the past and they'll say, well, why are you this way? And why are you that way? And it goes back and it's, you know, you're talking about something that happened when you were three.
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Episode 404: Liron Kayvan on ADD: Misdiagnosis, Overmedication and Strategies for Channeling it for Success
I think it speaks really, when you're talking about kids, it looks like the kid is the one with the problem, but really it speaks to the fact that the parent is the one with the problem. The parent is getting exacerbated, has given up, doesn't know the solution to the problem. And I don't think 99% of the parents I know are doing what they think is best for the kid.
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Episode 404: Liron Kayvan on ADD: Misdiagnosis, Overmedication and Strategies for Channeling it for Success
They just feel like they've run out of options. So I think it's really more about, it says more about the parent than it does about the actual child.
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Episode 404: Liron Kayvan on ADD: Misdiagnosis, Overmedication and Strategies for Channeling it for Success
Which might be beneficial because then they don't dwell on these problems. They just go, well, you're going to have to just get on with your life. And that, in some situations, in many situations, it's probably the best thing to do.
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Episode 404: Liron Kayvan on ADD: Misdiagnosis, Overmedication and Strategies for Channeling it for Success
I do. I do too. I do too. A lot less for that. You know what I mean? Yeah.
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Episode 404: Liron Kayvan on ADD: Misdiagnosis, Overmedication and Strategies for Channeling it for Success
You always want to validate who you are and what you are and accept it. And then you're going to be in your power. And then you're going to be able to, you're going to do things differently from it. Everyone's going to be different. But this idea that like, I'm this way and that's bad, you know, nobody, I don't think that anybody thrives from that.
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Episode 404: Liron Kayvan on ADD: Misdiagnosis, Overmedication and Strategies for Channeling it for Success
I think whatever you are, if you're ADD, whatever. And we're talking about it like loosely. We're not talking about clinically ADD necessarily.
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Episode 404: Liron Kayvan on ADD: Misdiagnosis, Overmedication and Strategies for Channeling it for Success
I mean, we know about like TikTok brain and stuff like that. We do know that social media is hijacking the dopamine system and making people more ADD. And like, I don't think anyone is debating that. So as a society, we are becoming more
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Episode 438: Tara LaFerrara: Why Quitting Alcohol Is Your Secret Weapon for Better Fitness
Hi guys, it's Tony Robbins. You're listening to Habits & Hustle. Crush it! Hey friends, you're listening to Fitness Friday on the Habits & Hustle podcast, where myself and my friends share quick and very actionable advice for you becoming your healthiest self. So stay tuned and let me know how you leveled up. What's your take on intermittent fasting for women?
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Episode 438: Tara LaFerrara: Why Quitting Alcohol Is Your Secret Weapon for Better Fitness
massive difference you know the bloating the just in terms of this overall what it's just it's the worst thing you can do like i agree like smoke a joint instead of uh honestly then other than then take it like drinking a glass of wine i mean i'm not i'm not saying do either one but if you're gonna if you're gonna pick your poison i'd rather you pick that my opinion
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Episode 438: Tara LaFerrara: Why Quitting Alcohol Is Your Secret Weapon for Better Fitness
Well, I was going to say that, too. I don't think it's poison at all. But it's how you consume it, though, right? Like if you're smoking it, it's not so great for you. If you're vaping it, it's not so great for you. If you eat it, I guess it's much better for you. Or take a gummy. That's way better for you.
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Episode 438: Tara LaFerrara: Why Quitting Alcohol Is Your Secret Weapon for Better Fitness
Oh, my God. I could not agree. By the way, if there's more calories and empty shit in a glass of wine, it's all sugar. You're basically drinking sugar. Yeah. Versus having a chocolate. It's like so much more satiating. But I guess there are people out there who don't care about food and they like alcohol. Not me. That's not me, but...
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Episode 438: Tara LaFerrara: Why Quitting Alcohol Is Your Secret Weapon for Better Fitness
Oh, yeah. I think the number one thing people should stop doing if they want to look fit and be fit and be healthy is eliminate alcohol 100%. Worst thing they can possibly do for their bodies, for their overall, for their skin, for their looks, for everything.
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Episode 438: Tara LaFerrara: Why Quitting Alcohol Is Your Secret Weapon for Better Fitness
And also that people don't even realize that like you may think that, oh, you know, I'm not sleeping well, but that's what that you end up eating more because of it. You end up making bad choices because of it. You're not like the ripple effect is so terrible. Yeah. Okay, one more question. And then we're going to like wrap mobility. Let's talk about mobility.
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Episode 438: Tara LaFerrara: Why Quitting Alcohol Is Your Secret Weapon for Better Fitness
How important is mobility in comparison to let's say the weight training, the cardio, all these things? Because I think that like, as we get older, our mobility, our flexibility definitely gets worse.
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Episode 438: Tara LaFerrara: Why Quitting Alcohol Is Your Secret Weapon for Better Fitness
How?
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Episode 438: Tara LaFerrara: Why Quitting Alcohol Is Your Secret Weapon for Better Fitness
Sorry. What are some good mobility exercises? Yeah.
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Episode 438: Tara LaFerrara: Why Quitting Alcohol Is Your Secret Weapon for Better Fitness
Also, guys, you can Google it. You can Google what a passive squat is. Yeah. And that's really good for your mobility.
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Episode 438: Tara LaFerrara: Why Quitting Alcohol Is Your Secret Weapon for Better Fitness
How about alcohol and body composition?
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Episode 438: Tara LaFerrara: Why Quitting Alcohol Is Your Secret Weapon for Better Fitness
How often should we be working on mobility?
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Episode 438: Tara LaFerrara: Why Quitting Alcohol Is Your Secret Weapon for Better Fitness
How about motivation? When people aren't motivated, how do you motivate people to actually stick to a plan and kind of be consistent with it?
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Episode 438: Tara LaFerrara: Why Quitting Alcohol Is Your Secret Weapon for Better Fitness
I love that. So thank you so much, Tara, for coming on the show. I appreciate it. You've been great. And guys, Tara, tell us where people can find more information if they want more fitness advice information.
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Episode 438: Tara LaFerrara: Why Quitting Alcohol Is Your Secret Weapon for Better Fitness
And by the way, I'm wearing this hat not because I don't want to look at you, but I have a terrible rash I got under my eyes and I don't want to look at it. Yeah, so I'm not trying to be rude, guys. That's why I'm covering my eyes, not because I'm hungover, obviously. Yeah. No, she's not because she does not drink. I do not drink. Exactly. Thank you so much again. I appreciate it.
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Episode 438: Tara LaFerrara: Why Quitting Alcohol Is Your Secret Weapon for Better Fitness
Now, listen, you're preaching to the converted. I don't drink at all. To me, it's the biggest waste of calories ever. I'd rather eat the drink any day of the week. And what it does to your skin and to your body is horrendous. It also ages you 20 years. I mean, people I look at who are like 45 who are drinkers versus not, massive difference.
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Episode 412: Dr. Mark Hyman: How Ultra-Processed Foods Are Fueling America's Obesity Epidemic
Right, your percentage is fat.
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Episode 412: Dr. Mark Hyman: How Ultra-Processed Foods Are Fueling America's Obesity Epidemic
Yeah, that is unbelievable.
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Episode 412: Dr. Mark Hyman: How Ultra-Processed Foods Are Fueling America's Obesity Epidemic
What I find to be unbelievable is that everyone seems to look for these quick fad diets or quick fixes, but yet what you're saying is pretty basic, right? It's the same things that if they watch what they eat, quality of the food, inflammation. It's not that hard. It's not that hard, but yet people are trying to over, or they're overwhelmed with like all this like noise, you know?
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Episode 412: Dr. Mark Hyman: How Ultra-Processed Foods Are Fueling America's Obesity Epidemic
The other thing I wanted to ask you about Ozempic or any of these, or Govees or whatever, can your body acclimate over time anyway? And so you end up even eating what you ate before you even started to eat?
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Episode 412: Dr. Mark Hyman: How Ultra-Processed Foods Are Fueling America's Obesity Epidemic
You keep on saying patients. Do you still see patients?
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Episode 412: Dr. Mark Hyman: How Ultra-Processed Foods Are Fueling America's Obesity Epidemic
So you actually still see like one of them.
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Episode 412: Dr. Mark Hyman: How Ultra-Processed Foods Are Fueling America's Obesity Epidemic
Listen, this is very refreshing. I thought of all the people, of all the doctors, you wouldn't have time because do you know how many times I've seen doctors sit in the same chair you are and they are doctors. Yeah, I guess they have a certificate, but they don't practice. They write books and they like to do media and they like to do all these other things.
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Episode 412: Dr. Mark Hyman: How Ultra-Processed Foods Are Fueling America's Obesity Epidemic
But people don't like to do it. Like it's impossible to find, like the big joke is I can't find a doctor.
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Episode 412: Dr. Mark Hyman: How Ultra-Processed Foods Are Fueling America's Obesity Epidemic
You actually are like, would you take another, another patient? I need a doctor because there is such a shortage of doctors.
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Episode 412: Dr. Mark Hyman: How Ultra-Processed Foods Are Fueling America's Obesity Epidemic
Like what is the waiting list for that? Like, do you have like a crazy waiting list?
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Episode 412: Dr. Mark Hyman: How Ultra-Processed Foods Are Fueling America's Obesity Epidemic
Right, to give people that.
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Episode 412: Dr. Mark Hyman: How Ultra-Processed Foods Are Fueling America's Obesity Epidemic
That's exactly true.
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Episode 412: Dr. Mark Hyman: How Ultra-Processed Foods Are Fueling America's Obesity Epidemic
How is it even possible? I thought there was no cure.
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Episode 412: Dr. Mark Hyman: How Ultra-Processed Foods Are Fueling America's Obesity Epidemic
Give us some things that we can do for our brain health, brain fog.
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Episode 412: Dr. Mark Hyman: How Ultra-Processed Foods Are Fueling America's Obesity Epidemic
But that's what I don't understand.
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Episode 412: Dr. Mark Hyman: How Ultra-Processed Foods Are Fueling America's Obesity Epidemic
There's more education out than ever before, right? We're more educated, you'd think, like there's information out there. How is it instead of getting less obese, we're getting more obese? Instead of getting healthier, we're getting more sick? When we are overloaded with people and information, like the health industry, longevity industry, it's a trillion-dollar business.
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Episode 412: Dr. Mark Hyman: How Ultra-Processed Foods Are Fueling America's Obesity Epidemic
Why is it different here than the UK?
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Episode 412: Dr. Mark Hyman: How Ultra-Processed Foods Are Fueling America's Obesity Epidemic
I was going to ask you about that.
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Episode 412: Dr. Mark Hyman: How Ultra-Processed Foods Are Fueling America's Obesity Epidemic
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Episode 446: Kris Gethin: The Truth about Fiber + Biohacks That Actually Reverse Aging
Hi guys, it's Tony Robbins. You're listening to Habits & Hustle. Crush it. Today on Fitness Friday, we have fitness expert Chris Gethin, and he reveals why fiber, not protein, is the nutrient 95% of Americans are missing. He also shares how he hacked his biological age down to 26 using peptides, hyperbaric oxygen, and a 10-day silent meditation.
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Episode 446: Kris Gethin: The Truth about Fiber + Biohacks That Actually Reverse Aging
That's B-I-O dot M-E and code Jennifer20 for 20% off. Now let's dive into today's episode. I just did a podcast yesterday about this because one of the girls who was on my podcast, besides doing a lot of other things, she founded this company called Bione, which is this fiber supplement, right?
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Episode 446: Kris Gethin: The Truth about Fiber + Biohacks That Actually Reverse Aging
She sent me a bunch of it because I didn't realize that she said that 95% of Americans are not getting enough fiber in their diet.
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Episode 446: Kris Gethin: The Truth about Fiber + Biohacks That Actually Reverse Aging
And it's such an important macronutrient. I find it interesting because right now it's super trendy to talk about protein and people are not talking about fiber. But fiber is so important to your diet plan.
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Episode 446: Kris Gethin: The Truth about Fiber + Biohacks That Actually Reverse Aging
Yeah. Um, that's why I'm glad that you mentioned that because we don't hear that every day. We hear a lot about protein. We kind of, it's like, this is the, this is the world we live in, right? It's all about social media and people, you know, glom onto something and that becomes the Bible and then forget about everything else. Right. Um, okay.
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Episode 446: Kris Gethin: The Truth about Fiber + Biohacks That Actually Reverse Aging
I wanted to ask you about, uh, basically reversing your biological age. Cause you said you talk a lot about that at these, these conferences and, So I know what you're going to say already. I mean, sleep, incredibly important, right? Eating enough fiber, obviously. Exercising. What are some ways we can reverse?
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Episode 446: Kris Gethin: The Truth about Fiber + Biohacks That Actually Reverse Aging
What's like the best ways we can, besides what I just said, we can reverse our biological age?
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Episode 446: Kris Gethin: The Truth about Fiber + Biohacks That Actually Reverse Aging
He is the founder of Unmatched Supplement and the Dramatic Transformation Principle. Chris delivers powerful longevity hacks that go way beyond supplements. So let's dive in. Before we jump into today's interview, a quick word from our sponsor, BioMe. Did you know 95% of us aren't getting enough fiber?
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Episode 446: Kris Gethin: The Truth about Fiber + Biohacks That Actually Reverse Aging
You don't have to talk about like, I want you to talk about like things that you've seen scientifically or through the lens of your world. that actually do reverse the biological age. It could be any biohack, it could be whatever. I want things that, in your opinion, actually reverse your biological age.
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Episode 446: Kris Gethin: The Truth about Fiber + Biohacks That Actually Reverse Aging
By the way, oh, I was going to ask you about that. Okay, continue.
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Episode 446: Kris Gethin: The Truth about Fiber + Biohacks That Actually Reverse Aging
I saw that on some, wasn't it, Brian Johnson was saying that. And it was like, isn't it kind of, there's not enough, there's not enough like data on that. Can it be dangerous or...
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Episode 446: Kris Gethin: The Truth about Fiber + Biohacks That Actually Reverse Aging
That's amazing. So you basically went on this 10-day silent retreat, and that's the biggest half, really, for your age.
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Episode 446: Kris Gethin: The Truth about Fiber + Biohacks That Actually Reverse Aging
Right, you can't. That was what I was going to say. Like, you had to do the actual hard work of doing it. That wasn't for sale, because that's hard to do.
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Episode 446: Kris Gethin: The Truth about Fiber + Biohacks That Actually Reverse Aging
So how many, how long were the breaks? Like in this, if every day, how long did you get for a break?
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Episode 446: Kris Gethin: The Truth about Fiber + Biohacks That Actually Reverse Aging
That's a big deal because fiber is key to our gut health, digestion, energy, and even our weight management. And that's why I'm excited to share BioMe's daily prebiotic fiber with you. It has eight grams of fiber per serving, plus prebiotics to support your gut. It's an easy and tasty way to close that fiber gap in your diet. You can mix it into smoothies or yogurt.
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Episode 446: Kris Gethin: The Truth about Fiber + Biohacks That Actually Reverse Aging
So what are you doing when you're doing these? Basically, when you're doing these 14 hour meditations a day with only a couple breaks, where are you doing it? Are you on a mountaintop? Are you in a room by yourself? Like, where are you?
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Episode 446: Kris Gethin: The Truth about Fiber + Biohacks That Actually Reverse Aging
Totally agree. Are you on this reprimicin? Do you take it?
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Episode 446: Kris Gethin: The Truth about Fiber + Biohacks That Actually Reverse Aging
Once a week. And do you take this epitalin peptide to shorten your telomeres?
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Episode 446: Kris Gethin: The Truth about Fiber + Biohacks That Actually Reverse Aging
Twice a year. So you do all of these things, hyperbaric. Have you tried gene therapy before?
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Episode 446: Kris Gethin: The Truth about Fiber + Biohacks That Actually Reverse Aging
Wow. So did you feel after you got that done, did you feel different? Did you feel more, I don't know, did you feel healthier? Did you feel cleaner? Did you feel like less brain fog, more alert?
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Episode 446: Kris Gethin: The Truth about Fiber + Biohacks That Actually Reverse Aging
And so is that dangerous?
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Episode 446: Kris Gethin: The Truth about Fiber + Biohacks That Actually Reverse Aging
There's flavors like chocolate or unflavored versions. It's both simple and enjoyable. And I love how easy it is to fit into your busy routine. And it's perfect for when you travel as well, which is why I always take it with me in my bag. If you want to make fiber a part of your daily routine, and I suggest you do, head to bio.me and use code Jennifer20 for 20% off your first order.
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Episode 446: Kris Gethin: The Truth about Fiber + Biohacks That Actually Reverse Aging
Does it hurt?
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Episode 446: Kris Gethin: The Truth about Fiber + Biohacks That Actually Reverse Aging
Wow. How expensive is it?
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Episode 446: Kris Gethin: The Truth about Fiber + Biohacks That Actually Reverse Aging
How often should people get that done? Like, how long does it last?
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Episode 446: Kris Gethin: The Truth about Fiber + Biohacks That Actually Reverse Aging
Wow. What's your take on NAD IVs?
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The Science Behind Why We Buy & How to Make Bold Choices - SYSK Choice
We're exploring what makes you buy the things you buy. And we're doing that with Phil Barton. He is a marketing expert and author of the book Decoded, the science behind why we buy. Thank you so much for having me. It's a bit similar to Something You Should Know, which is why I think you'll like it, but it takes a different spin.
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What's so great about Curiosity Weekly is there's so much to learn about science and tech, and these guys seem to have their finger on the pulse of the most interesting stuff. Food science, the science behind social media, the science of algorithms, computer science, and it's all explained in a fascinating way every week on Curiosity Weekly.
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Also, are you reluctant to complain in a restaurant even when things aren't going so well? And the power of being bold and asking for what you want more often.
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So, Phil, when someone decides to buy whatever it is, you know, a can of beans or a television set or a bottle of wine, when it gets right down to it, there's usually multiple choices. There's different, several different brands of beans or television sets, and they're all pretty much the same price. How does the brain figure out, okay, that one?
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All this today on Something You Should Know. Every time I've had to hire someone, it had to be done fast. But as I've discovered anyway, hiring can be very time-consuming, and even still there are no guarantees. Which is why, when it comes to hiring, Indeed is all you need. Right? The trick to finding the right person is to make sure a lot of qualified people know about your job opening.
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There's something that I've noticed and I've heard people talk about on menus, restaurant menus, and it's the second most expensive bottle of wine where people don't want to...
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buy the most expensive but they don't want to look too cheap so they buy the second most expensive restaurants know that and they mark that second bottle of up quite a bit because they know people will go for the second most expensive bottle of wine and i i think i've fallen for that myself but i'm not sure why well this is something known as anchoring and it
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And lastly, something I find interesting about purchases that we make is how we sometimes buy something and look back and say, what was I thinking? Why in the world did I buy that?
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The Science Behind Why We Buy & How to Make Bold Choices - SYSK Choice
Well, given the number of purchasing decisions we all make, it's really important to understand what goes on behind the scenes or in our brain to help us make those decisions. And when you understand that, I think it also helps you make better decisions. I've been talking with Phil Barden. He is a marketing expert, and the name of his book is Decoded, The Science Behind Why We Buy.
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The Science Behind Why We Buy & How to Make Bold Choices - SYSK Choice
And you will find a link to that book in the show notes. Hey, thanks, Phil. Thanks for coming on.
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I'm sure you've heard the phrase, fortune favors the bold, which implies that the more you get out there, be bold, ask for what you want, the more successful you will be in whatever it is you hope to do. And if that's true, what is it that stops so many of us from being bold, from speaking up, going after what we want? Why not be more bold?
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Well, someone who really understands and explains this concept so well is Jennifer Cohen. Jennifer has a brilliant TED Talk on this topic, and she is host of a podcast called Habits and Hustle. She's also the author of a book called Bigger, Better, Bolder. Live the life you want, not the life you get. Hi, Jennifer. Thanks for being here on Something You Should Know.
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So it's the new year. People are talking about new goals they want to achieve, things they want to get. Yet so many of us, when it comes time to speak up and ask for what we want, we're timid. We're not bold. We worry about getting rejected. What if we fail? I don't want to make waves. And so we don't go after what we say we want.
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The Science Behind Why We Buy & How to Make Bold Choices - SYSK Choice
So give me a concrete example of this idea in action.
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The Science Behind Why We Buy & How to Make Bold Choices - SYSK Choice
I think a lot of people think that being bold or not being bold is a character trait, that there are those people who are bold. And if you don't feel that's you, that a lot of this seems like this doesn't apply to me because I'm not that person.
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The Science Behind Why We Buy & How to Make Bold Choices - SYSK Choice
I wonder why we're not bold or maybe we start off bold, but we get shot down enough. We think, well, that didn't feel very good. So maybe I'm not going to be so bold the next time.
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The Science Behind Why We Buy & How to Make Bold Choices - SYSK Choice
Sometimes though, I think, I guess I can speak for myself, that when you decide not to do something bold, it's because something's telling you not to. And maybe that voice that's telling you not to is right. Maybe this isn't a good idea. And how do you determine whether it's worth taking the risk or whether maybe it really isn't a good idea?
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When I think of bold, I think not only of asking for what you want, but it's also in how you ask. I don't think of somebody being bold in a very meek sort of way. Those two terms don't seem to go together very well.
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The Science Behind Why We Buy & How to Make Bold Choices - SYSK Choice
So how do you be bold if you don't feel bold? If you do feel timid inside, how do you get this boldness that you're talking about?
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The Science Behind Why We Buy & How to Make Bold Choices - SYSK Choice
Hi there, welcome to Something You Should Know. When you're out and about and you have to use a public restroom, Usually the restrooms have either air dryers to dry your hands or paper towels. And sometimes you have a choice. They'll have both paper towels or air dryers. So which is the better choice? The answer is paper towels.
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Sometimes forever.
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You use the word courage, and I always think of bold and courageous and confidence to be kind of part of all the same thing. Like you can't have one without the others kind of thing. If you're going to be bold, you've got to have courage to be bold, and you've probably got to have a certain level of confidence to be bold. And a lot of people often feel they don't have those other two things.
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I remember years ago, it dawned on me that... Because I would see people who would get jobs, positions, opportunities, that they... clearly didn't seem qualified for, but they always, they were like good at getting the job, but not necessarily very good at doing it. And I used to think like, how do they do that?
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And then it dawned on me because they asked, they applied, they went for it and they were good at doing that. They weren't necessarily good at the job, but everybody who's had a boss that you wonder like, how did he ever get his job? Probably because he was bold enough to go ask. Yeah.
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According to a study by the Mayo Clinic, paper towels are better at fighting bacteria than air dryers are. That's because we use friction with paper towels, and that friction helps to dislodge the microorganisms while your hands are drying. Handwashing experts say that friction is the most important element of the process.
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Yeah, well, I think your point about rejection lasts a short time, but the regret of what if I had, it can last a lifetime. And I've always felt that and felt that, you know, I don't want to get to the end of my life and wonder what if, gee, what if I had done that? What if I'd done that?
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Although we all have some of those, we try to keep those to a minimum, I think, because then you spend a lot of time wondering and what good does that do you?
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Antibacterial soap isn't in contact with your skin long enough to really do the job. So they say that drying with paper is an important precaution to take, especially where hygiene is particularly important, such as restaurants, hospitals, and schools. And that is something you should know. You and I buy things all the time.
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Well, one of the things you said that really rings true for me, because I've done things in my life that were pretty bold and didn't work out and maybe felt a little foolish for a while, but not for very long. But there are other things that I didn't do, didn't go after, wish I had, and I still think about them. and wish I didn't. So I really like the message of being bold.
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Jennifer Cohen has been my guest. She is the host of the podcast called Habits and Hustle. She has a great TED Talk on being bold, and she's author of a book called Bigger, Better, Bolder. Live the life you want, not the life you get. And there's a link to that book in the show notes. Thanks, Jennifer. This was a lot of fun.
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The Science Behind Why We Buy & How to Make Bold Choices - SYSK Choice
Do you ever lie when the waiter or waitress comes over to your table and says, so how is everything? And you say it's fine even when it isn't fine. Well, a lot of people do that and they end up paying for it, literally. People who lie typically go to great lengths to convince others of their honesty, whether they realize it or not.
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So if you report that your meal is great, when really it's not so great, you'll probably tip generously so that your tip matches what you said. After all, you said the meal was great, you don't want to look like a cheapskate, so you leave a nice tip.
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Researchers put this theory to the test and found that the majority of patrons would rather say everything's fine and tip accordingly than to complain, citing that it's more trouble to speak up and complain rather than just say everything's fine. On the flip side, those people who did voice their displeasure felt justified leaving a smaller tip if the problem was not resolved.
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And that is something you should know. Thank you for listening and showing your support for this podcast over the last several years, and here's to a great new year for you. I'm Mike Carruthers. Thanks for listening today to Something You Should Know.
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The Science Behind Why We Buy & How to Make Bold Choices - SYSK Choice
We make choices about what to buy and what not to buy, and we like to think those choices are based on logical, firm, sound thinking. But there are a lot of other factors at play here when you buy something. Why do you buy it? Why do you buy, say, one make of car over another or one brand of soup over another? What goes on in your brain when you make a decision to buy?
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The Science Behind Why We Buy & How to Make Bold Choices - SYSK Choice
It's something that Phil Barden studies. Phil is a marketing expert and author of the book Decoded, the science behind why we buy. Hi, Phil. Hi, Mike. It's great to be here. So let's start with brands, because to some degree, why we buy some things is because we're brand loyal. We like that brand. But I've heard that and read that in recent years, brand loyalty is waning.
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The Science Behind Why We Buy & How to Make Bold Choices - SYSK Choice
People, with a few exceptions, people aren't so brand loyal as they used to be. Is that a fair statement?
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Are there some basic rules that sellers, retailers, whoever is trying to sell us something, are there things that they're doing that are trying to maneuver us in a particular direction. And maybe an example or two, if it's true, an example would help.
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I'm sure you don't know for sure the answer, but I bet you have an opinion. When it says, hurry, only two left, are there really only two left?
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I hear things like there have been studies where they're trying to sell wine, and if they play French music, French wines sell more, and if they play Italian music, Italian wines sell more. It makes it sound like we're so swayable, we're so impressionable that we'll just kind of go with the, you know, it doesn't sound like we're really being very critical in how we think about things.
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Well, that's good news because it almost seemed like the way that you hear these tactics tried that we're so well. And the grocery store is a good example of of how we hear so much about the psychology of the grocery store. You know that you're the longer you stay and the more they can make you go to the back of the store, the more you'll buy. Like you're just like an idiot.
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Well, wait a minute. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Haven't you ever bought something where you didn't really need it? You didn't want to take it back. You could have lived without it, but you bought it anyway because it looked kind of cool. And so here it is in your house. And it really wasn't necessary.
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So what are some of the other things that maybe we're not aware of that affect our decision making? And by that, I mean things like, I don't know, music or lighting or any of those kind of things that push us one way or the other or help us nudge us to make a decision.
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Today on Something You Should Know, in a public bathroom, is it better to dry your hands with a paper towel or an air dryer? Then, why you buy what you buy? There's a lot going on that determines what you purchase.
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That is really weird.
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We talked earlier about music. in relation to selling wine, how does music affect our brain in terms of what we buy or don't buy or stay in the store or get out of the store, that kind of thing?
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The Moth Radio Hour: Rites of Passage
And it was the third one's senior year, and I was sitting at the Flynn Theater in January, and a woman comes to the podium, and she says, I'd like to announce that in the fall, we'll be doing the musical Annie. I was like, oh my God, this is so weird. And right at that moment, my phone rang, and I pulled it out.
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It was my friend from California, and her name was across the screen, and her name was Annie. I was like, God, this is bizarre. And it didn't stop. I went to the grocery store on my way home, and in the checkout aisle, there was this little retrospective of Carol Burnett as Miss Hannigan.
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And then, this is all within three hours, I got home and I was exercising and I was watching the show Shameless. And you can check in episode two, season three, they refer to the musical Annie. So I thought, this is just weird. I'm getting these signs from the universe that I should be in this show or something. So I called the kids and I told them and I said, oh mom, you gotta do it.
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The Moth Radio Hour: Rites of Passage
You gotta do that real audition now. Like, do it, do it. And I thought, like... You know, being in a musical wasn't really my vibe, but I thought, you know, I'm going to be so devastated once that third one leaves that I thought maybe this would give me something fun. And, you know, because I'm pretty sure you can't sing, dance, and cry all at the same time. So I thought it could be fun.
The Moth
The Moth Radio Hour: Rites of Passage
So I go to the audition. And, you know, it's the Flint Theater, and they're, like, you know, kind of serious. Like, you get a number, and you've got to act, you've got to dance, you've got to sing. So I go to the acting part, and that one was okay. And then I go to the dancing part, and this lady's up there, and she's like, Step ball change, fan kick, pivot and repeat.
The Moth
The Moth Radio Hour: Rites of Passage
And I was like, number 212, like, get your arms right. And I'm like, not getting the arms right. And I kind of bump into this lady next to me. She's all mad. It was kind of a disaster. So then I go to the singing part. And you would think that 16 years might be long enough to practice that song. But I got up and was like, little girls, little girls. And I was like, freak.
The Moth
The Moth Radio Hour: Rites of Passage
I didn't know what came next. So I went home, and I called the kids. And I said, you know, thank you so much for that encouragement. But we're going to have to think of something else. Because... And I think those signs from the universe were all about me, like, just pushing myself out of my comfort zone, and I did that, and it was just funny. So, okay.
The Moth
The Moth Radio Hour: Rites of Passage
The next day, the director called and said, we'd like to offer you two small singing roles. I was like, really?
The Moth
The Moth Radio Hour: Rites of Passage
So we started going to the rehearsals, and it worked. You know, I came home from teaching, and the home would be all quiet. It was terribly lonely, and I would cry the dog had even died. It was just horrible. It was terrible. But then in the evenings, I would get to go to my rehearsals, and it was goofy and fun.
The Moth
The Moth Radio Hour: Rites of Passage
So then the months go by, all the rehearsals are done, and it's opening night at the Flynn. It's like full house. It's going to be really fun. The orchestra's going. Got my weird costume on and everything. And there's this point in the play when I get to come to front and center, like right in the middle, and the lights are on me, and I just get to like belt out this one big line.
The Moth
The Moth Radio Hour: Rites of Passage
And I was a homeless woman talking to Herbert Hoover, and here's my line. I said, you dirty rats, you bureaucrats, you made us what we are too. And then I saw him. Three pair of bright blue eyes just watching Annie again. And I thought, oh, all those signs of the universe. They were just all about this one really nice mom moment that I get to have. Seeing my kids again surprised me.
The Moth
The Moth Radio Hour: Rites of Passage
So I got all choked up and filled with tears. But remarkably, I was able to finish my song because apparently you can sing, dance, and cry all at the same time.
The Moth
The Moth Radio Hour: Rites of Passage
So when my kids were little, the go-to movie to watch when they were sick or it was raining was, for some reason, Annie the Musical. And I would watch them sitting close together, three pair of bright blue eyes, watching Carol Burnett sing, little girls, little girls, again and again and again. And I told them, I said, you know, when you grow up
The Moth
The Moth Radio Hour: Rites of Passage
and you go off to college, and I'm all bored and lonely. I think the Flynn Theater should do the musical Annie, and I could be in it because I know all the songs, like every word. And so this kind of bolstered me into this pretend auditioning for the show that I would do for the kids when I was in the car or on the beach or in the shower.
The Moth
The Moth Radio Hour: Rites of Passage
I would sing, little girls, little girls, and they'd say, getting ready for the show, mom? I'd say, yeah. So it's just like a weird family joke. So the years just went by, and the first one went off to college, and that was horrifying. And the second one went off to college, and that was horrendous.