Episode 399: Ben Greenfield on Biohacking vs. Simplicity: The Future of Longevity for Body, Mind and Spirit

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How do you evaluate nutritional products?

Ben Greenfield 0:12
Feld. Feld.
Tony Robbins 0:12
Feld. Feld.
Ben Greenfield 0:14
I think Feld does sound pretty cool. I need to go by that like a spy.
Tony Robbins 0:18
I thought it was.
Ben Greenfield 0:19
In World War II, going in to kill Hitler. Ben Greenfeld.
Tony Robbins 0:23
Yeah, but you're not even Jewish.
Ben Greenfield 0:24
It's my new identity. No.
Tony Robbins 0:25
That could be your alter ego.
Ben Greenfield 0:27
We could just do a whole podcast about how we would assassinate Hitler.
Tony Robbins 0:30
I would love that. Well, he's not.
Ben Greenfield 0:32
Well, you know, the whole theory about there's like a butterfly effect. And if somebody had killed him, somebody worse might have come up in his stead or, you know, because there's there's a whole moral philosophical argument of like, is murder wrong? And would you if so, would you go back in time? And if you had the opportunity to kill Hitler when he was a baby? And there's a really weird way to start a podcast talking about how we would kill Hitler. But if my name was Greenfeld.
Tony Robbins 0:55
Yeah.
Ben Greenfield 0:56
You have a lot of energy drinks here. I know. A lot of just drinks in general.
Tony Robbins 0:59
Well, first of all, that's actually, I don't know where you got that one from.
Ben Greenfield 1:02
Your refrigerator.
Tony Robbins 1:04
Oh, okay. I don't know what that is. We usually start this podcast with these magic mind shots, and I'm sure you've had a million of them before, have you not?
Ben Greenfield 1:11
I always look at the ingredient label. Okay, look. Well, I got lots of stuff in front of me.
Tony Robbins 1:15
This is a protein drink. This is Slate protein drinks. Have you not... You don't know about this?
Ben Greenfield 1:21
No.
Tony Robbins 1:22
I thought you know about everything, Ben.
Ben Greenfield 1:23
No, I live in a cave slash do have a lot of stuff in my mini fridge in the garage, but some of this stuff just slips me by. I always like to look at the ingredient label, though. Like this one... Caramel latte, because a lot of people see the stuff that they're told to sell. Hopefully I don't throw any of your sponsors under the bus talking about this stuff. No, you can't.
Tony Robbins 1:43
Actually, this is one of these companies that I drink at least one a day, and I like it. So you tell me what you think.
Ben Greenfield 1:49
Okay, so this one, when you look at the ingredient label, it's brewed coffee. Water and coffee. So the only thing I think about there when I'm looking at cans and ingredients is do they filter the water or do they look at the aluminum lining of the can? Have they assessed it for microplastics, et cetera?
Yeah.
Ben Greenfield 2:05
And sometimes that's not on the label. Right. So you literally have to ask. You know a really popular company, Zevia? Yeah, of course. It's not artificially sweetened soda. Those soft drinks. I interviewed their CEO years ago. And that was one of the first questions I asked was, do you guys pay attention to the cans?
Yeah.
Ben Greenfield 2:24
Because you can have a super healthy drink and then just screw it up by putting it in the wrong delivery mechanism. He was like, yeah, we go aluminum free and we test it for metals. And I thought that was cool considering you can find it in like Safeway or Rosars or whatever. Yeah. Which a lot of times means they would be cutting corners. So you don't know about the can necessarily.
Tony Robbins 2:41
But wait, what did he say? He said he was good with it.
Ben Greenfield 2:43
Yeah, it was clean.
Tony Robbins 2:43
Yeah, but it's in an aluminum can.
Ben Greenfield 2:46
It is, but you can have some kind of like a liner inside the can that keeps the metals from leaching.
Tony Robbins 2:50
Could you actually prove that they do that, though?
Ben Greenfield 2:53
You could do a third-party independent test on the can itself if you wanted to.
Tony Robbins 2:57
Right, but you never did that.
Ben Greenfield 2:58
I didn't do it. I did take him at his word, but I don't think he's lying. A podcast that says a little, because that could blow up in your face if somebody actually does.
Tony Robbins 3:04
If actually someone did it.
Ben Greenfield 3:05
Test it later on. So they've got brewed coffee, unfiltered skim milk. And when you look at, this is one of the terms that I sometimes don't like in the health industry, lean protein, right? Because you hear about, eggs for example right if you eat just egg whites you get a huge dose of albumin the protein in egg whites and many people have an inflammatory response to just eating egg whites when you look at eggs as nature's perfectly packaged protein that include the fat soluble vitamins which also can help out with the vitamin absorption with the protein absorption etc then you've got a little bit more of a cleaner profile so there's the idea of like

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