Habits and Hustle
Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing
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Are you curious about the latest trends in longevity and wellness? In this episode of Habits and Hustle, I am joined by Dr. Abe Malkin, to discuss all of the latest health treatments and tests that can help you optimize your wellbeing. We dive into the importance of comprehensive testing to identify root causes of health issues and the "total tox burden test.” We also discuss NAD IVs, ketamine therapy, and innovative social wellness clubs. This episode is packed with intriguing information and the latest biohacking trends so tune in today. Dr. Abe Malkin is the CEO and Founder of Drip Hydration. He received his combined MD/MBA degree from Tufts University School of Medicine. He then completed his Family Medicine Residency training at Kaiser Permanente in Los Angeles. Dr. Malkin is Board Certified in Family Medicine and an active member of the American Board of Family Medicine. He is the Founder of Concierge MD Los Angeles, a full-service concierge medical practice in Los Angeles that focuses on medical house calls for primary and urgent care needs. What We Discuss: (00:00) NAD and NR IV Therapy (05:51) Effectiveness of NAD Supplementation Methods (10:59) Importance of Daily Exercise for Health (20:31) The Importance of Healthy Habits (26:43) Social Wellness Communities and Trends (37:28) Innovative Wellness Practices and Therapies (51:08) Importance of Regular Full Body Scans …and more! Thank you to our sponsors: AquaTru: Get 20% off any purifier at aquatru.com with code HUSTLE Therasage: Head over to therasage.com and use code Be Bold for 15% off TruNiagen: Head over to truniagen.com and use code HUSTLE20 to get $20 off any purchase over $100. Magic Mind: Head over to www.magicmind.com/jen and use code Jen at checkout. BiOptimizers: Want to try Magnesium Breakthrough? Go to https://bioptimizers.com/jennifercohen and use promo code JC10 at checkout to save 10% off your purchase. Timeline Nutrition: Get 10% off your first order at timeline.com/cohen Air Doctor: Go to airdoctorpro.com and use promo code HUSTLE for up to $300 off and a 3-year warranty on air purifiers. Find more from Jen: Website: https://www.jennifercohen.com/ Instagram: @therealjencohen Books: https://www.jennifercohen.com/books Speaking: https://www.jennifercohen.com/speaking-engagement Find more from Dr. Abe Malkin: Website: https://driphydration.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/abemalkinmd/?hl=en
Chapter 1: What is NAD and why is it important?
Hi guys, it's Tony Robbins. You're listening to Habits & Hustle. Crush it.
You guys, this is a real treat because if you've been listening to Habits & Hustle from the beginning, then you may know who my guest is today. It is my dearest of dearest friends, Dr. Abe, otherwise known as Dr. Abe Malkin. Him and I actually started the podcast together five years ago.
I think we had like three or four episodes, maybe more, but you never heard him talk because I talked the whole time. And he kind of was, you know, what would you say, Abe? What happened to you?
Where can people find those in the archives? Those archives? I think they would be very entertaining.
Oh, it's hilarious. So Abe and I, just full disclosure, used to be like super, super tight. We still are. He's like my little brother. I love him. But Abe went on to be bigger and better and just so crazy successful. I'm very proud of him. He has like five different big projects. health and wellness companies. He covers everything. So he is like the guy in longevity.
Like if I have a question, I always call Abe and then he's too big for me. So he passes me on to an underling, but that's okay. So Abe, anyway, thank you for being here.
Pleasure. See, this is what happened. You put me on the podcast. I learned all your trade secrets and I just went out and started my own business.
Yeah, I know. See, that's exactly what you did. And now I'm back. Right, right. Now you're back after five years and crushing the world. By the way, for you guys who are watching this and not listening, Abe and I are actually doing an IV. It's called a Niagen IV. And it is supposed to be the next level game changing for your mitochondrial health, your cellular health.
Abe, actually, you're the doctor. Can you talk about what we're doing?
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Chapter 2: How does NAD IV therapy differ from oral supplementation?
But NED, because it's an enzyme, it's a precursor, it's fueling your body's production even more. So your body knows what to do with it and to generate more of it. So if you give your body an end product versus a precursor, your body would shut down its production. But if you give your body a precursor, it's actually stimulating it to produce more.
So then, okay, why is there so much talk though about NAD and anti-aging? So if it's about your cellular health, your mitochondrial health, brain fog, how does that, maybe this sounds stupid, but how does it make you look younger?
So think about your body is always trying to self-correct. And as you age, part of what causes aging is your body's inability to self-correct. And studies have shown that NAD levels naturally over time decrease. So at the age of 30 or 35, your body starts slowing down its production of NAD. Therefore, it can't self-correct as well.
Additionally, toxins, stress, alcohol, other things that we encounter on a day-to-day basis reduce our levels. So in a perfect world, if we never reduced our production of NAD or plenty of other things that cause aging, we wouldn't age. But the idea is to find out what is causing the harmful effects of aging and replace that in a safe way to slow the effects of aging.
I'm just fascinated by all this because like, how does anyone know what really works? Right. Because we're living in a time when like everyone's doing all these things, right? The cold plunging, the saunas, the IVs, you name it, right? Like red light, all the things. And like a lot of times people are like, well, does it work? And you're like, I don't know. Like, how do you know?
Like what are like, unless it's like, is it a placebo effect? Like if you think it works, it works. Like, is there a measurable test that people can take to see what's working, what's not working?
It's a great question. There's a couple of things you can do. So first of all, subjective benefit is benefit. Whether or not you can measure it, there are still plenty of subjective benefits of treatments like this, as there are with cold plunge and with infrared sauna and other things you can do. And it's not that there's one silver bullet that accomplishes everything.
I think they each incrementally help. That being said, you obviously want to have objective benefits as well. So you can check NAD levels. You can check your biological age. That's a very popular test now that there's a couple of different companies that sell.
That tests things like methylation on your DNA strands and essentially measures how close to being pure your DNA strands are from how they were when they were originally created. And that's why you can check your biological age versus your chronological age and see what the difference is. So there are definitely objective measures of aging that people can check.
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Chapter 3: What are the benefits of regular exercise for health?
You have no kids and no responsibilities. And that is why it is impossible because, you know, a certain time of day happens and like, you're just, I feel the, I'm the opposite where I feel like if you don't knock it out first thing in the morning, it will never happen.
I will be like, I'll think of every other, not because even I want to, but something will come up inevitably that I would have to take care of or my kid or this or that. So, and then it's always in your head. Like, oh, I have to work out. I got to work out. I got to do it. But if you just get it done, then you have the energy that you need for the day to work well.
Like, to me, if I'm doing it also at the end of the day, like, doesn't that defeat the purpose of having the wherewithal and the brain focus and the alertness?
See, I find that If I know at the end of the day, I have a time set aside to go to the gym or to work out, I can focus on what I need to do knowing I have that bonus at the end of the day. And I also do feel great when I work out in the morning, but most of the time I just don't have the time to do it. But I think everyone knows what makes them tick and knows what works best for them.
It's just a matter of like holding yourself accountable and doing it. So whether you're a morning person or an afternoon person, if you say you're going to do it, you got to do it.
Right. Okay. So what are your habits though, besides exercise every day?
That's a big one. I also like eat pretty healthy. I eat a lot, but I eat pretty healthy. I've really recently cut out a lot of gluten from my diet and that's made a big difference. I don't eat a lot of snacks or refined sugars. I'll eat plenty of meals with high protein and other things like that. But I try to cut out like snacking throughout between meals. That's made a big difference for me.
Sleep is also something that I've really tried to focus on recently. I don't understand people that can sleep four or five hours a night and function. I need seven or eight hours of sleep. And so I've started taking some sleep supplements before I go to bed. I started taking some cortisol blockers that help me not wake up during the middle of the night. Really? And that's helped me quite a bit.
Yeah.
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Chapter 4: How can you measure the effectiveness of wellness treatments?
Oh, okay.
So you can buy supplements online. You know, they have a combination of things like ashwagandha and l-theanine that you can take to help blunt that cortisol spike. And it helps you actually stay asleep in the middle of the night. And even if you do wake up, you'll go back to sleep more quickly.
So it's the stuff before bed, like magnesium and acetal and glycine, and then a cortisol blocker, which helps prevent the spike in the middle of the night.
I've never heard of that before.
These are great. These are like life-changing.
That's something I've never heard.
If you walk away from this podcast with two things, nitrogen IVs and those sleep supplements that I talked about.
That's amazing. The magnesium, I've heard a million times. Never heard about the cortisone blocker ever. Is there danger towards that or like?
No, they're all natural supplements. And so you can take them individually. Like you can take ashwagandha and l-theanine, but I like, there's a product called Cortisol Manager, which helps block cortisol spikes. We should probably stop our IVs by the way. Yeah.
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Chapter 5: What are the latest trends in social wellness communities?
Not to keep plugging places, but Hume is a place in Venice, which has a rooftop and they're building a 20% cold plunge up there. So you can work out and go up to the rooftop in the sun and be in a cold plunge with other people. There's a, there's a get together that every two or three weeks called coffee and chill, where you go and have a coffee and literally chill that 37 degrees.
So if you're only in the cold plunge for three minutes, right? So that's not very... It's like speed dating. Yeah, I was going to say, is it like speed dating? Yeah. Oh my God, I love that so much. Okay, tell me other things like that. I'm so glad that you came on here. Tell me other things like that that we haven't, like people don't know about.
I mean, I, I'm in LA. So a lot of the stuff that I do is here. So, you know, maybe for those that aren't in LA, you'll have to come visit, but like motion LA is another good one. Again, they have workout. They do have these big groups where you work out, you do a cold plunge. They have a bunch of sponsors like magic mind and other type of wellness oriented products and services.
And you meeting people in a environment, which isn't revolving around drinking and it's wonderful. And you're, you're meeting people that you love.
have similar interests to because when you go to a bar you know who knows who's there but if you go to a place that's oriented toward wellness you're going to meet people with wellness focus i know you know someone was on the podcast recently i don't even think it's out yet or maybe by the time this is it might be but she was saying like and then i looked into it and it was like the most popular thing is bird watching they have clubs now for bird watching good for longevity
No, it's not good. Well, maybe it is. It's nature. You're out in nature, out in the fresh air, and you are meeting people. There's birdwatching clubs, and I'm not talking for people who are like 110 years old. I'm talking people who are in their 30s, 20s, 40s, whatever, who are going into these birdwatching groups, and it's the hottest thing in the world.
This is good because now that we're all going to live to 180 years old, we're going to need to find activities that aren't bad on our joints.
Exactly.
So birdwatching would be perfect for that.
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Chapter 6: How do lifestyle factors influence aging?
So I went, he did like the stem cell facial on me. And when I say the word facial, I use that word very lightly. It was no facial. It was no spa facial, I'll tell you. Like I thought I was going to be going and he's going to do this like lovely, like, you know, treatment and put some stem cells. No, he takes needles and injects all these stem cells in my face. Have you heard of this before?
Well, microneedling is very popular. Is that not what you had or is it actual like injections?
No, no. He put injected stem cells in my face, like with a needle.
That's pretty invasive. I would say that you get a lot of benefit from microneedling with stem cells or exosomes. And that is micropunctures in the skin that if you put numbing cream on, you can barely feel the needle. And then 30 minutes later, you can get a microneedling treatment done. And it's extremely effective. You get a new glow on your skin after that.
But you could do the stem cell. So then you're saying that you can just get microneedling and then you just wipe the stem cells on your face versus inject them.
Yeah, you massage them into the pores that you create. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's not as potent as getting needle, needle, needle, needle.
It's also not as painful.
It was really painful. But shout out to Dr. Adil Khan because his team was amazing. And he's doing like some amazing things over there. But I find that that's become a big area that people are talking about. It's regenerative medicine.
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Chapter 7: What role does sleep play in overall health?
Can you talk about that? Talk about that. Because I know that you work as an addiction detox person as well.
Yeah.
And so can we talk about that? And what, like, I thought ketamine was good for depression.
it is so basically just at a high level the way the ketamine works is it's a dissociative so when given either orally through a lozenge or iv or intramuscularly it causes a sort of self-limited 40 45 minute experience that you can have someone go through and it really helps them break negative thought patterns in their brain and then rewire their neural pathways through neuroplasticity in a healthier way
So let's say, for example, you had someone who had PTSD and they've never thought about a certain experience they had, which obviously triggers them and causes them to have trauma. They can now access that thought in that controlled space and rewire their thinking about it. So you can imagine it's like having years of therapy to process something in one setting.
And so when done properly with professional guidance, it can be extremely impactful. Same thing with anxiety and depression. If you have these negative thought loops that you can't get out of, ketamine therapy can help break those thought loops and rewire your thinking in a more healthy way.
Where do you get them?
So there's different ways of taking ketamine. You can do lozenge therapy, which is like self-administered and usually you do it at your home or, you know, another setting like that with or without therapeutic support. And then the more potent way of doing it is via IV or intramuscular therapy.
And that's when you have a provider there, a doctor, a nurse practitioner who's administering the treatment and kind of guiding you through it.
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