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Dr. Abe Malkin

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Habits and Hustle
Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing

Well, that's why I don't use an aura ring. I used to use an aura ring because some days it tells you not to work out. And I realized for me, that doesn't exist. Like I don't, if I didn't get a good night's sleep the night before, I'll still feel better if I go to the gym.

Habits and Hustle
Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing

Well, that's why I don't use an aura ring. I used to use an aura ring because some days it tells you not to work out. And I realized for me, that doesn't exist. Like I don't, if I didn't get a good night's sleep the night before, I'll still feel better if I go to the gym.

Habits and Hustle
Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing

And luckily, you know, aerobics working out, I think used to be more of a US centric thing where in the US we were very big on it, but in Europe and other places they weren't. But now no matter where you go, hotels have gyms, there's places you can go running. To be honest, it's like just walking too. Like everyone says the same thing.

Habits and Hustle
Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing

And luckily, you know, aerobics working out, I think used to be more of a US centric thing where in the US we were very big on it, but in Europe and other places they weren't. But now no matter where you go, hotels have gyms, there's places you can go running. To be honest, it's like just walking too. Like everyone says the same thing.

Habits and Hustle
Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing

Yeah, what's interesting is this is a new product, the Niagen IV, that is basically a precursor to NAD. If we were getting an NAD IV right now, we would both be so uncomfortable. We wouldn't be able to do the podcast. I think we actually tried to do it at one point and we just couldn't do it.

Habits and Hustle
Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing

Yeah, what's interesting is this is a new product, the Niagen IV, that is basically a precursor to NAD. If we were getting an NAD IV right now, we would both be so uncomfortable. We wouldn't be able to do the podcast. I think we actually tried to do it at one point and we just couldn't do it.

Habits and Hustle
Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing

They go to Europe, they eat pasta, they have wine, and no one ever gains a pound because they're walking every day. They're eating foods that aren't processed. So I think in whatever extent you can, just being active, moving every day is something anyone can do.

Habits and Hustle
Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing

They go to Europe, they eat pasta, they have wine, and no one ever gains a pound because they're walking every day. They're eating foods that aren't processed. So I think in whatever extent you can, just being active, moving every day is something anyone can do.

Habits and Hustle
Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing

I'm jealous of people that are morning workout people. I'm not. To me, I have to get through my day of business work, and then I go to the gym. It's also a good departure for me for the day.

Habits and Hustle
Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing

I'm jealous of people that are morning workout people. I'm not. To me, I have to get through my day of business work, and then I go to the gym. It's also a good departure for me for the day.

Habits and Hustle
Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing

No. I get so much energy when I go after work. If I go in the morning, I'm thinking about other things. I'm worrying about my meetings. I'm on my phone while I'm at the gym. If I go after work, I can just block out two hours of time and not think about anything else.

Habits and Hustle
Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing

No. I get so much energy when I go after work. If I go in the morning, I'm thinking about other things. I'm worrying about my meetings. I'm on my phone while I'm at the gym. If I go after work, I can just block out two hours of time and not think about anything else.

Habits and Hustle
Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing

I don't have kids. Exactly.

Habits and Hustle
Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing

I don't have kids. Exactly.

Habits and Hustle
Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing

See, I find that If I know at the end of the day, I have a time set aside to go to the gym or to work out, I can focus on what I need to do knowing I have that bonus at the end of the day. And I also do feel great when I work out in the morning, but most of the time I just don't have the time to do it. But I think everyone knows what makes them tick and knows what works best for them.

Habits and Hustle
Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing

See, I find that If I know at the end of the day, I have a time set aside to go to the gym or to work out, I can focus on what I need to do knowing I have that bonus at the end of the day. And I also do feel great when I work out in the morning, but most of the time I just don't have the time to do it. But I think everyone knows what makes them tick and knows what works best for them.

Habits and Hustle
Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing

It's just a matter of like holding yourself accountable and doing it. So whether you're a morning person or an afternoon person, if you say you're going to do it, you got to do it.

Habits and Hustle
Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing

It's just a matter of like holding yourself accountable and doing it. So whether you're a morning person or an afternoon person, if you say you're going to do it, you got to do it.

Habits and Hustle
Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing

That's a big one. I also like eat pretty healthy. I eat a lot, but I eat pretty healthy. I've really recently cut out a lot of gluten from my diet and that's made a big difference. I don't eat a lot of snacks or refined sugars. I'll eat plenty of meals with high protein and other things like that. But I try to cut out like snacking throughout between meals. That's made a big difference for me.

Habits and Hustle
Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing

That's a big one. I also like eat pretty healthy. I eat a lot, but I eat pretty healthy. I've really recently cut out a lot of gluten from my diet and that's made a big difference. I don't eat a lot of snacks or refined sugars. I'll eat plenty of meals with high protein and other things like that. But I try to cut out like snacking throughout between meals. That's made a big difference for me.

Habits and Hustle
Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing

Sleep is also something that I've really tried to focus on recently. I don't understand people that can sleep four or five hours a night and function. I need seven or eight hours of sleep. And so I've started taking some sleep supplements before I go to bed. I started taking some cortisol blockers that help me not wake up during the middle of the night. Really? And that's helped me quite a bit.

Habits and Hustle
Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing

Sleep is also something that I've really tried to focus on recently. I don't understand people that can sleep four or five hours a night and function. I need seven or eight hours of sleep. And so I've started taking some sleep supplements before I go to bed. I started taking some cortisol blockers that help me not wake up during the middle of the night. Really? And that's helped me quite a bit.

Habits and Hustle
Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing

Yeah.

Habits and Hustle
Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing

Yeah.

Habits and Hustle
Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing

So the reason people often wake up at, you know, two, three, four in the morning is because their cortisol levels naturally spike in the middle of the night. And so you wake up, you go to the bathroom or not, and then you sometimes go back to sleep. Sometimes you don't. That was always my problem. I didn't have problems falling asleep early.

Habits and Hustle
Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing

So the reason people often wake up at, you know, two, three, four in the morning is because their cortisol levels naturally spike in the middle of the night. And so you wake up, you go to the bathroom or not, and then you sometimes go back to sleep. Sometimes you don't. That was always my problem. I didn't have problems falling asleep early.

Habits and Hustle
Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing

It was waking up in the middle of the night and then not going back to sleep.

Habits and Hustle
Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing

It was waking up in the middle of the night and then not going back to sleep.

Habits and Hustle
Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing

So you can buy supplements online. You know, they have a combination of things like ashwagandha and l-theanine that you can take to help blunt that cortisol spike. And it helps you actually stay asleep in the middle of the night. And even if you do wake up, you'll go back to sleep more quickly.

Habits and Hustle
Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing

So you can buy supplements online. You know, they have a combination of things like ashwagandha and l-theanine that you can take to help blunt that cortisol spike. And it helps you actually stay asleep in the middle of the night. And even if you do wake up, you'll go back to sleep more quickly.

Habits and Hustle
Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing

Do you remember? Yes. And you need to be like a professional athlete to get through it quickly. And the Niagen IV is much different. It gives you even more benefit than the NAD IV, but you can race through it in 75% faster than you can an NAD IV. So we're going to get the IV done in 30 or so minutes. Really helps with energy, with mood, with sleep, with brain health.

Habits and Hustle
Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing

Do you remember? Yes. And you need to be like a professional athlete to get through it quickly. And the Niagen IV is much different. It gives you even more benefit than the NAD IV, but you can race through it in 75% faster than you can an NAD IV. So we're going to get the IV done in 30 or so minutes. Really helps with energy, with mood, with sleep, with brain health.

Habits and Hustle
Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing

So it's the stuff before bed, like magnesium and acetal and glycine, and then a cortisol blocker, which helps prevent the spike in the middle of the night.

Habits and Hustle
Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing

So it's the stuff before bed, like magnesium and acetal and glycine, and then a cortisol blocker, which helps prevent the spike in the middle of the night.

Habits and Hustle
Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing

These are great. These are like life-changing.

Habits and Hustle
Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing

These are great. These are like life-changing.

Habits and Hustle
Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing

If you walk away from this podcast with two things, nitrogen IVs and those sleep supplements that I talked about.

Habits and Hustle
Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing

If you walk away from this podcast with two things, nitrogen IVs and those sleep supplements that I talked about.

Habits and Hustle
Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing

No, they're all natural supplements. And so you can take them individually. Like you can take ashwagandha and l-theanine, but I like, there's a product called Cortisol Manager, which helps block cortisol spikes. We should probably stop our IVs by the way. Yeah.

Habits and Hustle
Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing

No, they're all natural supplements. And so you can take them individually. Like you can take ashwagandha and l-theanine, but I like, there's a product called Cortisol Manager, which helps block cortisol spikes. We should probably stop our IVs by the way. Yeah.

Habits and Hustle
Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing

Yeah.

Habits and Hustle
Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing

Yeah.

Habits and Hustle
Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing

I don't know. I think, for me at least, if I get a good night's sleep the night before, that's everything. I didn't sleep much Saturday night. Last night, I slept nine hours.

Habits and Hustle
Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing

I don't know. I think, for me at least, if I get a good night's sleep the night before, that's everything. I didn't sleep much Saturday night. Last night, I slept nine hours.

Habits and Hustle
Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing

I went to sleep at, got in bed at 8.30 p.m.

Habits and Hustle
Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing

I went to sleep at, got in bed at 8.30 p.m.

Habits and Hustle
Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing

Never happens.

Habits and Hustle
Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing

Never happens.

Habits and Hustle
Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing

Do you think that's because of sleep?

Habits and Hustle
Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing

Do you think that's because of sleep?

Habits and Hustle
Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing

So a lot of benefits of the IV in a very short amount of time.

Habits and Hustle
Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing

So a lot of benefits of the IV in a very short amount of time.

Habits and Hustle
Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing

But it's worth it. It's worth it.

Habits and Hustle
Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing

But it's worth it. It's worth it.

Habits and Hustle
Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing

Don't have kids.

Habits and Hustle
Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing

Don't have kids.

Habits and Hustle
Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing

I think that's what's interesting now. There's all these like biohacking longevity communities. Yeah. Like I moved to the West side now and I'm everywhere in Venice and Santa Monica, run clubs, infrared sauna clubs, cold plunge groups, like all over the place. This didn't exist like five or 10 years ago.

Habits and Hustle
Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing

I think that's what's interesting now. There's all these like biohacking longevity communities. Yeah. Like I moved to the West side now and I'm everywhere in Venice and Santa Monica, run clubs, infrared sauna clubs, cold plunge groups, like all over the place. This didn't exist like five or 10 years ago.

Habits and Hustle
Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing

Yeah, so like, you know, PAWS has a 20-person sauna in one of their locations where they have sauna days where you can go through. And there are these cold plunge parties where people come and drink coffee and go in cold plunges. There's a place in Venice that just opened up that's putting a 10-person cold plunge on their roof so you can look at the ocean while you're in the cold plunge.

Habits and Hustle
Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing

Yeah, so like, you know, PAWS has a 20-person sauna in one of their locations where they have sauna days where you can go through. And there are these cold plunge parties where people come and drink coffee and go in cold plunges. There's a place in Venice that just opened up that's putting a 10-person cold plunge on their roof so you can look at the ocean while you're in the cold plunge.

Habits and Hustle
Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing

Like blending, and I think that's what's cool about these social wellness medical facilities now is they're starting to make wellness part of your lifestyle and a way to interact socially. So it's not just you by yourself suffering in a cold punch. You can also like get a date out of it too.

Habits and Hustle
Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing

Like blending, and I think that's what's cool about these social wellness medical facilities now is they're starting to make wellness part of your lifestyle and a way to interact socially. So it's not just you by yourself suffering in a cold punch. You can also like get a date out of it too.

Habits and Hustle
Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing

you know, Venice Run Club. I did it once. And they make you, before you run, identify if you're single or not. So it becomes like a dating plus activity. And it becomes like a huge hit. Everyone wants to do it. It's so much better than going to the bar and getting a drink.

Habits and Hustle
Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing

you know, Venice Run Club. I did it once. And they make you, before you run, identify if you're single or not. So it becomes like a dating plus activity. And it becomes like a huge hit. Everyone wants to do it. It's so much better than going to the bar and getting a drink.

Habits and Hustle
Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing

But tired of drinking. Drinking is over. Like, it's just not fun anymore.

Habits and Hustle
Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing

But tired of drinking. Drinking is over. Like, it's just not fun anymore.

Habits and Hustle
Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing

I mean, we live in LA, so it's easy for us to say that. I'm sure in Nebraska and other places in the country, it's probably not the case, but hopefully eventually we'll extend. Like even for us, you know, I started my IB company, we were in LA and then we did New York and we did major cities. I never in a million years thought I would launch in St.

Habits and Hustle
Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing

I mean, we live in LA, so it's easy for us to say that. I'm sure in Nebraska and other places in the country, it's probably not the case, but hopefully eventually we'll extend. Like even for us, you know, I started my IB company, we were in LA and then we did New York and we did major cities. I never in a million years thought I would launch in St.

Habits and Hustle
Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing

Louis, Missouri or Louisville, Kentucky, but there's a demand for this stuff everywhere now. Really? Yeah. And even in Europe, there's places that you'd never think would want IV therapy, but it's starting to get more popular. So whatever we're doing, and I think a lot of it is podcasts like yours and other big podcasts that are espousing this stuff. It's getting the word out there.

Habits and Hustle
Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing

Louis, Missouri or Louisville, Kentucky, but there's a demand for this stuff everywhere now. Really? Yeah. And even in Europe, there's places that you'd never think would want IV therapy, but it's starting to get more popular. So whatever we're doing, and I think a lot of it is podcasts like yours and other big podcasts that are espousing this stuff. It's getting the word out there.

Habits and Hustle
Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing

It's in the zeitgeist. People are getting excited about it. They're talking about it with their friends. And there's this like social pressure in a sense, in a good way, to what are you doing for your wellness? What are you doing for your health outside of just working and going out? There's like a whole undercurrent now, which is pushing this stuff to the forefront.

Habits and Hustle
Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing

It's in the zeitgeist. People are getting excited about it. They're talking about it with their friends. And there's this like social pressure in a sense, in a good way, to what are you doing for your wellness? What are you doing for your health outside of just working and going out? There's like a whole undercurrent now, which is pushing this stuff to the forefront.

Habits and Hustle
Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing

Not to keep plugging places, but Hume is a place in Venice, which has a rooftop and they're building a 20% cold plunge up there. So you can work out and go up to the rooftop in the sun and be in a cold plunge with other people. There's a, there's a get together that every two or three weeks called coffee and chill, where you go and have a coffee and literally chill that 37 degrees.

Habits and Hustle
Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing

Not to keep plugging places, but Hume is a place in Venice, which has a rooftop and they're building a 20% cold plunge up there. So you can work out and go up to the rooftop in the sun and be in a cold plunge with other people. There's a, there's a get together that every two or three weeks called coffee and chill, where you go and have a coffee and literally chill that 37 degrees.

Habits and Hustle
Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing

I mean, I, I'm in LA. So a lot of the stuff that I do is here. So, you know, maybe for those that aren't in LA, you'll have to come visit, but like motion LA is another good one. Again, they have workout. They do have these big groups where you work out, you do a cold plunge. They have a bunch of sponsors like magic mind and other type of wellness oriented products and services.

Habits and Hustle
Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing

I mean, I, I'm in LA. So a lot of the stuff that I do is here. So, you know, maybe for those that aren't in LA, you'll have to come visit, but like motion LA is another good one. Again, they have workout. They do have these big groups where you work out, you do a cold plunge. They have a bunch of sponsors like magic mind and other type of wellness oriented products and services.

Habits and Hustle
Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing

Those in the biohacking community have known about NAD for a long time, but it's great that now it's becoming more mainstream. Makes my job a lot easier that I don't have to explain it to as many people because people are starting to hear about it now from their friends, their doctors, and so forth. But essentially, NAD is an enzyme, a coenzyme, that helps your body generate chemical reactions.

Habits and Hustle
Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing

Those in the biohacking community have known about NAD for a long time, but it's great that now it's becoming more mainstream. Makes my job a lot easier that I don't have to explain it to as many people because people are starting to hear about it now from their friends, their doctors, and so forth. But essentially, NAD is an enzyme, a coenzyme, that helps your body generate chemical reactions.

Habits and Hustle
Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing

And you meeting people in a environment, which isn't revolving around drinking and it's wonderful. And you're, you're meeting people that you love.

Habits and Hustle
Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing

And you meeting people in a environment, which isn't revolving around drinking and it's wonderful. And you're, you're meeting people that you love.

Habits and Hustle
Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing

This is good because now that we're all going to live to 180 years old, we're going to need to find activities that aren't bad on our joints.

Habits and Hustle
Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing

This is good because now that we're all going to live to 180 years old, we're going to need to find activities that aren't bad on our joints.

Habits and Hustle
Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing

So birdwatching would be perfect for that.

Habits and Hustle
Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing

So birdwatching would be perfect for that.

Habits and Hustle
Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing

It's just the amount of penetration into your body. So cryotherapy generally cools down the outer surface of your skin and so isn't getting that deeper level of cooling that you get from a cold plunge. I personally have a really hard time with cold punch. And that's probably because I don't meditate and I get in there and immediately the second I get in there, I say, I got to get out of here.

Habits and Hustle
Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing

It's just the amount of penetration into your body. So cryotherapy generally cools down the outer surface of your skin and so isn't getting that deeper level of cooling that you get from a cold plunge. I personally have a really hard time with cold punch. And that's probably because I don't meditate and I get in there and immediately the second I get in there, I say, I got to get out of here.

Habits and Hustle
Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing

This is insane. With breath work and coaching, I can stand a minute or two. I don't do the six to 10 minutes like some people do, but that really does help reduce stress, reduce your inflammation. Because at the end of the day, like that's the key is reducing inflammation. All this stuff we're talking about is reducing cortisol levels, reducing inflammation, reducing

Habits and Hustle
Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing

This is insane. With breath work and coaching, I can stand a minute or two. I don't do the six to 10 minutes like some people do, but that really does help reduce stress, reduce your inflammation. Because at the end of the day, like that's the key is reducing inflammation. All this stuff we're talking about is reducing cortisol levels, reducing inflammation, reducing

Habits and Hustle
Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing

Because that is what erodes your body's function over time.

Habits and Hustle
Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing

Because that is what erodes your body's function over time.

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So I think there's a physiological benefit of it and then also a psychological benefit. Learning how to manage your emotion around, I need to get out of this stressful situation right away rather than dealing with it, I think is an entirely different benefit other than the physiological benefit.

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So I think there's a physiological benefit of it and then also a psychological benefit. Learning how to manage your emotion around, I need to get out of this stressful situation right away rather than dealing with it, I think is an entirely different benefit other than the physiological benefit.

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I'm certainly someone who like feels that way initially with tough situations, but learning how to manage that psychological pressure and overcome it and get through it is something that even if you have that initial cortisol spike, learning how to get through that and control your breathing and get through the experience, anyone can do it. It's just a matter of managing your emotions around it.

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I'm certainly someone who like feels that way initially with tough situations, but learning how to manage that psychological pressure and overcome it and get through it is something that even if you have that initial cortisol spike, learning how to get through that and control your breathing and get through the experience, anyone can do it. It's just a matter of managing your emotions around it.

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So everything you do in the world requires your body to be generating chemical reactions. And you burn through your NAD levels. And as you age, you produce less and less NAD, which is one of the reasons that contributes to aging.

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So everything you do in the world requires your body to be generating chemical reactions. And you burn through your NAD levels. And as you age, you produce less and less NAD, which is one of the reasons that contributes to aging.

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Yeah, well, I think just to catch people up, you mentioned peptides. Peptides are great. There's hundreds of different peptides for different functions. They're very targeted. There are peptides that can increase growth hormone. There are peptides that can reduce inflammation. There's peptides for sleep, for weight loss, for libido.

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Yeah, well, I think just to catch people up, you mentioned peptides. Peptides are great. There's hundreds of different peptides for different functions. They're very targeted. There are peptides that can increase growth hormone. There are peptides that can reduce inflammation. There's peptides for sleep, for weight loss, for libido.

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So for those who don't know a lot about peptides, talk to your doctor and learn about the various different types of peptides that can be beneficial. We talked a lot about NAD and Niagen earlier on. That is something that is kind of a core component of a good longevity strategy to replace that.

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So for those who don't know a lot about peptides, talk to your doctor and learn about the various different types of peptides that can be beneficial. We talked a lot about NAD and Niagen earlier on. That is something that is kind of a core component of a good longevity strategy to replace that.

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If you want to go a little bit deeper down the rabbit hole, there's things like exosomes and stem cells, which I'm sure people have heard about if they're interested in biohacking, but the way in which they're being used now are really amazing. So for years, people were doing intra-articular injections of stem cells and exosomes into the joints. So you...

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If you want to go a little bit deeper down the rabbit hole, there's things like exosomes and stem cells, which I'm sure people have heard about if they're interested in biohacking, but the way in which they're being used now are really amazing. So for years, people were doing intra-articular injections of stem cells and exosomes into the joints. So you...

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you hurt your knee, you hurt your ankle, you hurt your elbow, you get an injection into the joint from your orthopedic surgeon. And that's great for tissue repair in a very local area.

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you hurt your knee, you hurt your ankle, you hurt your elbow, you get an injection into the joint from your orthopedic surgeon. And that's great for tissue repair in a very local area.

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But for anti-aging purposes, you can get an IV of exosomes or stem cells, and the cells themselves won't just treat a particular joint, but they'll actually travel throughout your body and regenerate different areas of your body that need regeneration.

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But for anti-aging purposes, you can get an IV of exosomes or stem cells, and the cells themselves won't just treat a particular joint, but they'll actually travel throughout your body and regenerate different areas of your body that need regeneration.

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For those who don't know the difference, stem cells are actual immature cells that are harvested from birth products at the time of birth and haven't differentiated into muscle cells, liver cells, brain cells. So you're giving your body a blank check to then produce whatever cells it needs.

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For those who don't know the difference, stem cells are actual immature cells that are harvested from birth products at the time of birth and haven't differentiated into muscle cells, liver cells, brain cells. So you're giving your body a blank check to then produce whatever cells it needs.

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So interestingly enough, you might find someone who has back pain and they get a stem cell infusion for their back pain, but those cells will actually travel also to their pancreas and potentially can help reverse some aspects of diabetes. So stem cells as a general category are really emerging as an incredible tool. Exosomes are the byproduct of stem cells.

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So interestingly enough, you might find someone who has back pain and they get a stem cell infusion for their back pain, but those cells will actually travel also to their pancreas and potentially can help reverse some aspects of diabetes. So stem cells as a general category are really emerging as an incredible tool. Exosomes are the byproduct of stem cells.

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So they're the milieu that a stem cell exists in. It's the growth factors, the RNA, the DNA that produce a very potent anti-inflammatory effect in the short term. So they don't grow tissue the way that stem cells do, but you use it very focally to help treat inflammation in the short term.

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So they're the milieu that a stem cell exists in. It's the growth factors, the RNA, the DNA that produce a very potent anti-inflammatory effect in the short term. So they don't grow tissue the way that stem cells do, but you use it very focally to help treat inflammation in the short term.

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so from an anti-aging perspective nad is really helpful for helping reverse the clock so as you're performing these chemical reactions your body is using up the nad almost like a blank check so whether you need more energy or better sleep you have addiction problems or whatnot nad is really giving your body what it needs through that chemical reaction process it's

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so from an anti-aging perspective nad is really helpful for helping reverse the clock so as you're performing these chemical reactions your body is using up the nad almost like a blank check so whether you need more energy or better sleep you have addiction problems or whatnot nad is really giving your body what it needs through that chemical reaction process it's

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So I would say both of those, in addition to the NAD, the niagen, the peptides, are some really helpful anti-aging treatments you can look into.

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So I would say both of those, in addition to the NAD, the niagen, the peptides, are some really helpful anti-aging treatments you can look into.

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The difference is here in the US, you're not able to expand stem cells. So what you harvest at the time of birth, that's what you can infuse into someone. Outside of the US, there aren't restrictions against expansion.

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The difference is here in the US, you're not able to expand stem cells. So what you harvest at the time of birth, that's what you can infuse into someone. Outside of the US, there aren't restrictions against expansion.

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So they can take a group of stem cells, put it in the petri dish, grow it by a thousand times or 10,000 times, and then use those to... So you might find an infusion outside the US with... a factor of 10 times as many cells as you will get here. And so in that sense, it could be more effective, but the actual cells themselves are the same cells.

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So they can take a group of stem cells, put it in the petri dish, grow it by a thousand times or 10,000 times, and then use those to... So you might find an infusion outside the US with... a factor of 10 times as many cells as you will get here. And so in that sense, it could be more effective, but the actual cells themselves are the same cells.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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But there's also an argument to be made that expanding the cells, each time you expand, do you lose a little efficacy of that additional cell? So I haven't looked at the studies directly, but that's essentially the way to think about it.

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But there's also an argument to be made that expanding the cells, each time you expand, do you lose a little efficacy of that additional cell? So I haven't looked at the studies directly, but that's essentially the way to think about it.

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Well, microneedling is very popular. Is that not what you had or is it actual like injections?

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Well, microneedling is very popular. Is that not what you had or is it actual like injections?

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That's pretty invasive. I would say that you get a lot of benefit from microneedling with stem cells or exosomes. And that is micropunctures in the skin that if you put numbing cream on, you can barely feel the needle. And then 30 minutes later, you can get a microneedling treatment done. And it's extremely effective. You get a new glow on your skin after that.

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That's pretty invasive. I would say that you get a lot of benefit from microneedling with stem cells or exosomes. And that is micropunctures in the skin that if you put numbing cream on, you can barely feel the needle. And then 30 minutes later, you can get a microneedling treatment done. And it's extremely effective. You get a new glow on your skin after that.

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Yeah, you massage them into the pores that you create. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Yeah, you massage them into the pores that you create. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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It's also not as painful.

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It's also not as painful.

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I also think like mental health is super important to your longevity. And there's a lot of work being done now by using psychedelics in mental health, especially ketamine, which is now FDA approved for the treatment of depression and anxiety and other mental health disorders.

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I also think like mental health is super important to your longevity. And there's a lot of work being done now by using psychedelics in mental health, especially ketamine, which is now FDA approved for the treatment of depression and anxiety and other mental health disorders.

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powering your energy production in your mitochondria. So at a very basic level, as you age and your body requires more and more NAD, repleting it with IVs or orally can really help you give yourself the stuff it needs to help prepare itself.

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powering your energy production in your mitochondria. So at a very basic level, as you age and your body requires more and more NAD, repleting it with IVs or orally can really help you give yourself the stuff it needs to help prepare itself.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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it is so basically just at a high level the way the ketamine works is it's a dissociative so when given either orally through a lozenge or iv or intramuscularly it causes a sort of self-limited 40 45 minute experience that you can have someone go through and it really helps them break negative thought patterns in their brain and then rewire their neural pathways through neuroplasticity in a healthier way

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it is so basically just at a high level the way the ketamine works is it's a dissociative so when given either orally through a lozenge or iv or intramuscularly it causes a sort of self-limited 40 45 minute experience that you can have someone go through and it really helps them break negative thought patterns in their brain and then rewire their neural pathways through neuroplasticity in a healthier way

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So let's say, for example, you had someone who had PTSD and they've never thought about a certain experience they had, which obviously triggers them and causes them to have trauma. They can now access that thought in that controlled space and rewire their thinking about it. So you can imagine it's like having years of therapy to process something in one setting.

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So let's say, for example, you had someone who had PTSD and they've never thought about a certain experience they had, which obviously triggers them and causes them to have trauma. They can now access that thought in that controlled space and rewire their thinking about it. So you can imagine it's like having years of therapy to process something in one setting.

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And so when done properly with professional guidance, it can be extremely impactful. Same thing with anxiety and depression. If you have these negative thought loops that you can't get out of, ketamine therapy can help break those thought loops and rewire your thinking in a more healthy way.

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And so when done properly with professional guidance, it can be extremely impactful. Same thing with anxiety and depression. If you have these negative thought loops that you can't get out of, ketamine therapy can help break those thought loops and rewire your thinking in a more healthy way.

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So there's different ways of taking ketamine. You can do lozenge therapy, which is like self-administered and usually you do it at your home or, you know, another setting like that with or without therapeutic support. And then the more potent way of doing it is via IV or intramuscular therapy.

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So there's different ways of taking ketamine. You can do lozenge therapy, which is like self-administered and usually you do it at your home or, you know, another setting like that with or without therapeutic support. And then the more potent way of doing it is via IV or intramuscular therapy.

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And that's when you have a provider there, a doctor, a nurse practitioner who's administering the treatment and kind of guiding you through it.

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And that's when you have a provider there, a doctor, a nurse practitioner who's administering the treatment and kind of guiding you through it.

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It's cumulative. You can have benefit from just one session, but a lot of the studies have shown it's between four to eight sessions over a two month period that really gets the most benefit, especially when combined with elements that help you improve your mindfulness. So journaling, meditation, breath work to help you reframe your mindset in a more healthy way.

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It's cumulative. You can have benefit from just one session, but a lot of the studies have shown it's between four to eight sessions over a two month period that really gets the most benefit, especially when combined with elements that help you improve your mindfulness. So journaling, meditation, breath work to help you reframe your mindset in a more healthy way.

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Now that you've created that dissociative effect that allows you to recreate your neural pathways.

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Now that you've created that dissociative effect that allows you to recreate your neural pathways.

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I have, and it's wonderful.

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I have, and it's wonderful.

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I've done several lozenge treatments, and I've done one intramuscular treatment. Intramuscular treatment is a lot more potent, so it was really helpful for me to have a provider there with me to guide me through it.

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I've done several lozenge treatments, and I've done one intramuscular treatment. Intramuscular treatment is a lot more potent, so it was really helpful for me to have a provider there with me to guide me through it.

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Yeah, but I wasn't in the right state of mind to provide assistance to myself at the time.

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Yeah, but I wasn't in the right state of mind to provide assistance to myself at the time.

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Yeah, it's a gluteal injection in your buttock. And it's essentially the same thing, about a 40, 45 minute experience.

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Yeah, it's a gluteal injection in your buttock. And it's essentially the same thing, about a 40, 45 minute experience.

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So you'll feel fine an hour later. You can go about your day. But the effect can be life-changing. If you reprocess thoughts, if you have more clarity on events in your life, if you can reframe your thinking about things, you can have long-lasting effects in the same way that you could from therapy, which helps you reframe your thinking about certain things.

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So you'll feel fine an hour later. You can go about your day. But the effect can be life-changing. If you reprocess thoughts, if you have more clarity on events in your life, if you can reframe your thinking about things, you can have long-lasting effects in the same way that you could from therapy, which helps you reframe your thinking about certain things.

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So again, all of this to say stress, anxiety, depression are one of the biggest contributing factors to aging and lack of longevity. So there are other ways to treat longevity other than the typical things that are out there that people are talking about.

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So again, all of this to say stress, anxiety, depression are one of the biggest contributing factors to aging and lack of longevity. So there are other ways to treat longevity other than the typical things that are out there that people are talking about.

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Great question. So NAD is made up of two things, made up of NR and NMN. And so a lot of people are out there selling NR supplements, selling NMN supplements. NAD is the combination of two. But the reason you hear about NAD specifically with IVs is that it's not bioavailable. So if you take it orally, you can't absorb it into the cells, which is why you have NR and NMN supplements.

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Great question. So NAD is made up of two things, made up of NR and NMN. And so a lot of people are out there selling NR supplements, selling NMN supplements. NAD is the combination of two. But the reason you hear about NAD specifically with IVs is that it's not bioavailable. So if you take it orally, you can't absorb it into the cells, which is why you have NR and NMN supplements.

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So I think earlier in the podcast, we talked about some of the factors that cause reduced NAD levels, stress, anxiety, toxins. As you can imagine, people with addiction issues are encountering a higher level of toxins than the regular, the general public.

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So I think earlier in the podcast, we talked about some of the factors that cause reduced NAD levels, stress, anxiety, toxins. As you can imagine, people with addiction issues are encountering a higher level of toxins than the regular, the general public.

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So giving them NAD injections, niagen infusions can really help them replete those neurotransmitters that are lost and then the NAD that's lost in a way which is probably more impactful for them than someone in the general public who isn't encountering that level of toxin.

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So giving them NAD injections, niagen infusions can really help them replete those neurotransmitters that are lost and then the NAD that's lost in a way which is probably more impactful for them than someone in the general public who isn't encountering that level of toxin.

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So NAD can help anyone. And I think it would probably be more helpful for someone with addiction problems, just given their bodies, the harmful effects of toxins on the body. And so rather than just focusing on traditional pharmaceutical medications, which can be toxic in their own right, it's a nice adjunct treatment to pharmacological treatment for anxiety and for mental health issues.

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So NAD can help anyone. And I think it would probably be more helpful for someone with addiction problems, just given their bodies, the harmful effects of toxins on the body. And so rather than just focusing on traditional pharmaceutical medications, which can be toxic in their own right, it's a nice adjunct treatment to pharmacological treatment for anxiety and for mental health issues.

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Well, I mean, I think testing is a part of this too. We've talked a lot about treatment. So let's take a step back and think about making a customized treatment plan for yourself. So I'm a pretty healthy guy. I've been told for years I'm healthy. I actually just did an environmental toxin test and found out that I have mold toxicity, heavy metals, microplastics.

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Well, I mean, I think testing is a part of this too. We've talked a lot about treatment. So let's take a step back and think about making a customized treatment plan for yourself. So I'm a pretty healthy guy. I've been told for years I'm healthy. I actually just did an environmental toxin test and found out that I have mold toxicity, heavy metals, microplastics.

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And so my treatment plan, it's not a... complex treatment plan in the sense of like novel treatments, but it's treating the root cause of what's going on inside my body. So for me, I take a binder, which helps bind the plastics. And then I go into a sauna three times a week to help get rid of the plastics.

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And so my treatment plan, it's not a... complex treatment plan in the sense of like novel treatments, but it's treating the root cause of what's going on inside my body. So for me, I take a binder, which helps bind the plastics. And then I go into a sauna three times a week to help get rid of the plastics.

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So I think rather than only thinking about what's the latest and greatest treatment that's out there, think about what can I do to actually treat what's going on inside my body and testing is important.

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So I think rather than only thinking about what's the latest and greatest treatment that's out there, think about what can I do to actually treat what's going on inside my body and testing is important.

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There's a company out there which has a, it's called a total tox burden test. You don't do it? We do it. And I meant the test itself is produced by them. And so we administer for patients at home. We get the results in a couple of weeks. And then we put together a specific treatment plan to treat those specific elements. So for me, it was the binders that I mentioned plus sauna.

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There's a company out there which has a, it's called a total tox burden test. You don't do it? We do it. And I meant the test itself is produced by them. And so we administer for patients at home. We get the results in a couple of weeks. And then we put together a specific treatment plan to treat those specific elements. So for me, it was the binders that I mentioned plus sauna.

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Because of the mold toxicity, I actually ended up moving offices because we found mold in my old office. I moved houses actually, not because of that, but it helped with the mold.

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Because of the mold toxicity, I actually ended up moving offices because we found mold in my old office. I moved houses actually, not because of that, but it helped with the mold.

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and really making sure to wash my fruits and vegetables carefully because a lot of times they have mold on them there's a whole host of things you can do air purifiers at home in the office heavy metals is another thing that i found so making sure that the fish that you're eating things like that is organic fresh wild caught so for me that was my specific treatment plan i'm sure for other people they have they'll find things that they may not have noticed

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and really making sure to wash my fruits and vegetables carefully because a lot of times they have mold on them there's a whole host of things you can do air purifiers at home in the office heavy metals is another thing that i found so making sure that the fish that you're eating things like that is organic fresh wild caught so for me that was my specific treatment plan i'm sure for other people they have they'll find things that they may not have noticed

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from their normal primary care doctor.

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from their normal primary care doctor.

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Yeah. That test is a game changer for sure. Because for so many of us, you go to get the same lab work done every year. The ranges are so large and they're like, oh, you're low normal or high normal, but it's not getting to the actual cause of what's causing that. And so for me, I had inflammation in my body and I'm super healthy.

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Yeah. That test is a game changer for sure. Because for so many of us, you go to get the same lab work done every year. The ranges are so large and they're like, oh, you're low normal or high normal, but it's not getting to the actual cause of what's causing that. And so for me, I had inflammation in my body and I'm super healthy.

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No one could explain it, but it wasn't until I did this test that I actually figured out what was causing that. And that was leading to a whole host of other things.

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No one could explain it, but it wasn't until I did this test that I actually figured out what was causing that. And that was leading to a whole host of other things.

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So with this IV in particular that we're getting right now, because it's NR, it can pass through directly into our cells without having to get broken down first. Which is why when you get an NAD IV, it takes three hours because you have to infuse it, it gets broken down, it's uncomfortable, and then it's absorbed up into the cells.

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So with this IV in particular that we're getting right now, because it's NR, it can pass through directly into our cells without having to get broken down first. Which is why when you get an NAD IV, it takes three hours because you have to infuse it, it gets broken down, it's uncomfortable, and then it's absorbed up into the cells.

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some reduced kidney function, some elevated liver enzymes, these micro traumas that I was having to my body from all the toxins that I was encountering.

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some reduced kidney function, some elevated liver enzymes, these micro traumas that I was having to my body from all the toxins that I was encountering.

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It's a few hundred dollars. It's very affordable for people that really are... making health their priority and want to get to the root cause of their problems. I think coming at your health from a naturopathic perspective can be very helpful, rather than just thinking about Western medicine, which is focused on disease treatment, disease treatment.

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It's a few hundred dollars. It's very affordable for people that really are... making health their priority and want to get to the root cause of their problems. I think coming at your health from a naturopathic perspective can be very helpful, rather than just thinking about Western medicine, which is focused on disease treatment, disease treatment.

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There's other ways of thinking about your health in terms of root cause problems, how to assess that. And then treatment is the last step. It's really identifying the root cause problem first before you even get to the treatment.

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There's other ways of thinking about your health in terms of root cause problems, how to assess that. And then treatment is the last step. It's really identifying the root cause problem first before you even get to the treatment.

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The total tox burden test. That's one of them. There's many other tests, you know, people have been talking about for years, but I think are important. Like got microbiome testing, food sensitivity testing. If you are lactose intolerant or lactose insensitive, like I am, just having a little pizza or milk doesn't cause me to be violently sick, but it does cause micro inflammation in my gut.

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The total tox burden test. That's one of them. There's many other tests, you know, people have been talking about for years, but I think are important. Like got microbiome testing, food sensitivity testing. If you are lactose intolerant or lactose insensitive, like I am, just having a little pizza or milk doesn't cause me to be violently sick, but it does cause micro inflammation in my gut.

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And things like that are important for people to get. And most people don't get that from their regular doctor.

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And things like that are important for people to get. And most people don't get that from their regular doctor.

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stool sense, stool microbiome testing, food sensitivity, total tox burden. These are all the markers for inflammation that you will see far before you get to the actual disease process.

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stool sense, stool microbiome testing, food sensitivity, total tox burden. These are all the markers for inflammation that you will see far before you get to the actual disease process.

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A lot of this reduces inflammation. So you feel more energy. Do you feel? You feel more clear-headed. You feel your lab values will certainly improve because you're taking out that inflammation from your body. You'll feel subjective benefits first, and then over time, certainly objective benefits in your lab work.

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A lot of this reduces inflammation. So you feel more energy. Do you feel? You feel more clear-headed. You feel your lab values will certainly improve because you're taking out that inflammation from your body. You'll feel subjective benefits first, and then over time, certainly objective benefits in your lab work.

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That's a great test. I highly recommend it.

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That's a great test. I highly recommend it.

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We haven't talked in four years. I know. Four years.

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We haven't talked in four years. I know. Four years.

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So genetic testing is on the cusp of really great things. At least in the outset now, it can be helpful for getting a phenotype for yourself so you understand how your body reacts to certain things. But eventually, treatments will be geared toward your specific genetic phenotype or genotype. And that's really when I think it's going to be super impactful.

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So genetic testing is on the cusp of really great things. At least in the outset now, it can be helpful for getting a phenotype for yourself so you understand how your body reacts to certain things. But eventually, treatments will be geared toward your specific genetic phenotype or genotype. And that's really when I think it's going to be super impactful.

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So for now, it's helpful just to understand where you are in the milieu of genetics and testing. But in the future, I think it's going to be targeted to therapies based on your specific gene type.

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So for now, it's helpful just to understand where you are in the milieu of genetics and testing. But in the future, I think it's going to be targeted to therapies based on your specific gene type.

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Well, there are genetic tests that can test you for cancer markers, like the gallery test, which is incredibly important for people to take. So as part of like, I think a comprehensive health plan, you obviously need your just basic blocking and tackling your cardiovascular health, your lipid panel, your blood sugars, your liver, kidney function, and all of those things.

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Well, there are genetic tests that can test you for cancer markers, like the gallery test, which is incredibly important for people to take. So as part of like, I think a comprehensive health plan, you obviously need your just basic blocking and tackling your cardiovascular health, your lipid panel, your blood sugars, your liver, kidney function, and all of those things.

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Whereas the Niagen IV with NR is absorbed directly into the cells as you infuse it.

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Whereas the Niagen IV with NR is absorbed directly into the cells as you infuse it.

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I think some of the specialty tests, like we talked about, gut microbiome, food sensitivity, environmental toxin, but then you go into your genetic testing, like the gallery cancer test, epigenetic test, the test your biological age and whatnot. And then for like prevention purposes, there's the clearly heart scan, which I think is really helpful for most people, and that's getting more popular.

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I think some of the specialty tests, like we talked about, gut microbiome, food sensitivity, environmental toxin, but then you go into your genetic testing, like the gallery cancer test, epigenetic test, the test your biological age and whatnot. And then for like prevention purposes, there's the clearly heart scan, which I think is really helpful for most people, and that's getting more popular.

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What's it called? The Clearly Heart Scan. So it's a cardiovascular test that tests your risk of having a cardiac event. And I think for a long time, people, Western medicine was reluctant to have people do expensive testing proactively. And we kind of waited till it was more of a disease stage before testing and treating.

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What's it called? The Clearly Heart Scan. So it's a cardiovascular test that tests your risk of having a cardiac event. And I think for a long time, people, Western medicine was reluctant to have people do expensive testing proactively. And we kind of waited till it was more of a disease stage before testing and treating.

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Now, I think there's a movement toward, especially as these companies do direct-to-consumer testing, like Clearly and Prenuvo is another MRI scan, full-body MRI scan that can be helpful for prevention. People are seeking these tests earlier and earlier and earlier in their lives and finding out things about their body earlier than they have before.

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Now, I think there's a movement toward, especially as these companies do direct-to-consumer testing, like Clearly and Prenuvo is another MRI scan, full-body MRI scan that can be helpful for prevention. People are seeking these tests earlier and earlier and earlier in their lives and finding out things about their body earlier than they have before.

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I think it's incredible. I think people should get it as part of their, not annual physical, but at least every five years, starting at the age of 40 or so, just to give yourself a baseline to know what's going on in your body. It's a diagnostic test that can track changes over time.

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I think it's incredible. I think people should get it as part of their, not annual physical, but at least every five years, starting at the age of 40 or so, just to give yourself a baseline to know what's going on in your body. It's a diagnostic test that can track changes over time.

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So even if you don't find something that is pinpoint disease, you'll find changes over time if you do it on a consistent basis.

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So even if you don't find something that is pinpoint disease, you'll find changes over time if you do it on a consistent basis.

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This is great. I'll see you, what, like 2028 or something like that?

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This is great. I'll see you, what, like 2028 or something like that?

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Well, the good news is we're going to be aging backwards now, so we'll actually get younger the next time we do this podcast. Good.

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Well, the good news is we're going to be aging backwards now, so we'll actually get younger the next time we do this podcast. Good.

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I think that's fine.

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I think that's fine.

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Oh, WellnessMD. Yeah, that's an interesting company. I've learned a lot in growing the businesses that I run myself. And I've kind of used that to help other people launch their health businesses and scale them across the country. So that's another way people can find me through WellnessMD group.

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Oh, WellnessMD. Yeah, that's an interesting company. I've learned a lot in growing the businesses that I run myself. And I've kind of used that to help other people launch their health businesses and scale them across the country. So that's another way people can find me through WellnessMD group.

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Don't you want your doctor to do that?

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Don't you want your doctor to do that?

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Yes. We should get Neil on the podcast too.

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Yes. We should get Neil on the podcast too.

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You can ask him all your burning cosmetic questions.

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You can ask him all your burning cosmetic questions.

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Glad we got a plug-in for Neil.

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Glad we got a plug-in for Neil.

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Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing

So there's been studies on both sides, NR and NMN, about the bioavailability and effectiveness. I think there's studies on both sides, but it's clearly evident that NR is absorbed into the cell directly, whereas NAD has to be broken down into the two components. And that's why you see supplements selling oral NR or NMN. You won't see supplements selling oral NAD.

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Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing

So there's been studies on both sides, NR and NMN, about the bioavailability and effectiveness. I think there's studies on both sides, but it's clearly evident that NR is absorbed into the cell directly, whereas NAD has to be broken down into the two components. And that's why you see supplements selling oral NR or NMN. You won't see supplements selling oral NAD.

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would say that the literature at this point is pointing to nr being more effective and more absorbed better absorbed into the cell and leading to higher levels of nad and really ultimately that's what you're trying to get you're trying to get higher levels of nad so what's really important is to actually track your increase in nad levels to get an objective measurement and that's what's exciting right now a lot of people have been talking about the subjective benefits of nad for years

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would say that the literature at this point is pointing to nr being more effective and more absorbed better absorbed into the cell and leading to higher levels of nad and really ultimately that's what you're trying to get you're trying to get higher levels of nad so what's really important is to actually track your increase in nad levels to get an objective measurement and that's what's exciting right now a lot of people have been talking about the subjective benefits of nad for years

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Better energy, better sleep, better mood. But now there are tests coming out which can objectively measure your NAD levels after taking supplementation, either orally or via IV.

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Better energy, better sleep, better mood. But now there are tests coming out which can objectively measure your NAD levels after taking supplementation, either orally or via IV.

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Where can people find those in the archives? Those archives? I think they would be very entertaining.

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Where can people find those in the archives? Those archives? I think they would be very entertaining.

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I would say the hierarchy in terms of effectiveness and absorption is the best way you can take any supplement for that matter is really IV because that gets completely absorbed into the cell, then intramuscular or subcutaneous, and then oral. And so the amount of NAD... gain you can generate from a treatment via IV is far greater than what you can gain via oral.

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I would say the hierarchy in terms of effectiveness and absorption is the best way you can take any supplement for that matter is really IV because that gets completely absorbed into the cell, then intramuscular or subcutaneous, and then oral. And so the amount of NAD... gain you can generate from a treatment via IV is far greater than what you can gain via oral.

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If you had to take oral pills to equal the amount of NAD that you're getting from an IV infusion, you'd have to take many, many pills, and that just wouldn't feel good in your stomach. So for most people, the amount of NAD delivered via IV is far greater than an oral pill, which is why you generally see better absorption rates via IV. Can you OD? No, that's a great question.

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If you had to take oral pills to equal the amount of NAD that you're getting from an IV infusion, you'd have to take many, many pills, and that just wouldn't feel good in your stomach. So for most people, the amount of NAD delivered via IV is far greater than an oral pill, which is why you generally see better absorption rates via IV. Can you OD? No, that's a great question.

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You asked me the other day, you said, hey, I just got an iGen IV the other day. Can I have another one today? It's like putting gasoline in your car or getting an oil change. Your car will run more efficiently if you get an oil change every day, but you can't have too many oil changes. And so I say to people, your body will use up whatever you give it.

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You asked me the other day, you said, hey, I just got an iGen IV the other day. Can I have another one today? It's like putting gasoline in your car or getting an oil change. Your car will run more efficiently if you get an oil change every day, but you can't have too many oil changes. And so I say to people, your body will use up whatever you give it.

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You're constantly performing chemical reactions and using up NAD. So the more you give yourself, the better it will run.

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You're constantly performing chemical reactions and using up NAD. So the more you give yourself, the better it will run.

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It's a molecule that your body is constantly using it. So you will use NAD on a several day lag time. So if you get an IV today, you'll use it up over the next two or three days. You're not going to use it up all right away, but your body will use more of it the more you give it. And so it is soluble. So if you do, you could essentially urinate it out.

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It's a molecule that your body is constantly using it. So you will use NAD on a several day lag time. So if you get an IV today, you'll use it up over the next two or three days. You're not going to use it up all right away, but your body will use more of it the more you give it. And so it is soluble. So if you do, you could essentially urinate it out.

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It's not going to overbuild in your body, but you really can't take too much of it.

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It's not going to overbuild in your body, but you really can't take too much of it.

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It's a great question. So I like to think of supplements or any treatment for that matter in terms of precursors versus end products. So if you give your body an end product, like if you give your body testosterone or if you give your body growth hormone, it triggers your body's natural reaction to stop production because you're getting it exogenously.

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It's a great question. So I like to think of supplements or any treatment for that matter in terms of precursors versus end products. So if you give your body an end product, like if you give your body testosterone or if you give your body growth hormone, it triggers your body's natural reaction to stop production because you're getting it exogenously.

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But NED, because it's an enzyme, it's a precursor, it's fueling your body's production even more. So your body knows what to do with it and to generate more of it. So if you give your body an end product versus a precursor, your body would shut down its production. But if you give your body a precursor, it's actually stimulating it to produce more.

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But NED, because it's an enzyme, it's a precursor, it's fueling your body's production even more. So your body knows what to do with it and to generate more of it. So if you give your body an end product versus a precursor, your body would shut down its production. But if you give your body a precursor, it's actually stimulating it to produce more.

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Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing

So think about your body is always trying to self-correct. And as you age, part of what causes aging is your body's inability to self-correct. And studies have shown that NAD levels naturally over time decrease. So at the age of 30 or 35, your body starts slowing down its production of NAD. Therefore, it can't self-correct as well.

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So think about your body is always trying to self-correct. And as you age, part of what causes aging is your body's inability to self-correct. And studies have shown that NAD levels naturally over time decrease. So at the age of 30 or 35, your body starts slowing down its production of NAD. Therefore, it can't self-correct as well.

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Additionally, toxins, stress, alcohol, other things that we encounter on a day-to-day basis reduce our levels. So in a perfect world, if we never reduced our production of NAD or plenty of other things that cause aging, we wouldn't age. But the idea is to find out what is causing the harmful effects of aging and replace that in a safe way to slow the effects of aging.

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Additionally, toxins, stress, alcohol, other things that we encounter on a day-to-day basis reduce our levels. So in a perfect world, if we never reduced our production of NAD or plenty of other things that cause aging, we wouldn't age. But the idea is to find out what is causing the harmful effects of aging and replace that in a safe way to slow the effects of aging.

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It's a great question. There's a couple of things you can do. So first of all, subjective benefit is benefit. Whether or not you can measure it, there are still plenty of subjective benefits of treatments like this, as there are with cold plunge and with infrared sauna and other things you can do. And it's not that there's one silver bullet that accomplishes everything.

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It's a great question. There's a couple of things you can do. So first of all, subjective benefit is benefit. Whether or not you can measure it, there are still plenty of subjective benefits of treatments like this, as there are with cold plunge and with infrared sauna and other things you can do. And it's not that there's one silver bullet that accomplishes everything.

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I think they each incrementally help. That being said, you obviously want to have objective benefits as well. So you can check NAD levels. You can check your biological age. That's a very popular test now that there's a couple of different companies that sell.

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I think they each incrementally help. That being said, you obviously want to have objective benefits as well. So you can check NAD levels. You can check your biological age. That's a very popular test now that there's a couple of different companies that sell.

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That tests things like methylation on your DNA strands and essentially measures how close to being pure your DNA strands are from how they were when they were originally created. And that's why you can check your biological age versus your chronological age and see what the difference is. So there are definitely objective measures of aging that people can check.

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That tests things like methylation on your DNA strands and essentially measures how close to being pure your DNA strands are from how they were when they were originally created. And that's why you can check your biological age versus your chronological age and see what the difference is. So there are definitely objective measures of aging that people can check.

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And guys like Brian Johnson have a large discrepancy between their biological age and their chronological age through all the things that they're doing.

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And guys like Brian Johnson have a large discrepancy between their biological age and their chronological age through all the things that they're doing.

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Pleasure. See, this is what happened. You put me on the podcast. I learned all your trade secrets and I just went out and started my own business.

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Pleasure. See, this is what happened. You put me on the podcast. I learned all your trade secrets and I just went out and started my own business.

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Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing

So I think in addition to all the things we're talking about, NAD, niagen IVs, infrared sauna, cold punch, there's a lot of other factors that you can control internally, which make a big difference, like sleep. like lack of stress, like exercise. I know Peter Attia likes to talk about the things that are like non-negotiable and then things you can do that are to supplement your everyday routines.

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Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing

So I think in addition to all the things we're talking about, NAD, niagen IVs, infrared sauna, cold punch, there's a lot of other factors that you can control internally, which make a big difference, like sleep. like lack of stress, like exercise. I know Peter Attia likes to talk about the things that are like non-negotiable and then things you can do that are to supplement your everyday routines.

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Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing

The non-negotiable stuff, you have to sleep, you have to eat, you have to live a life stress-free. That stuff is extremely impactful. So even people that aren't necessarily doing the infrared sauna and the cold plunge, if they have other good habits, they can look great. So I take that with a grain of salt. I think if you had poor...

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The non-negotiable stuff, you have to sleep, you have to eat, you have to live a life stress-free. That stuff is extremely impactful. So even people that aren't necessarily doing the infrared sauna and the cold plunge, if they have other good habits, they can look great. So I take that with a grain of salt. I think if you had poor...

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Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing

habits, and then you did NAD and cold plunge in the foot sauna, perhaps you could balance the two out. But having those core habits at the beginning is really fundamental to having a healthy lifestyle.

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habits, and then you did NAD and cold plunge in the foot sauna, perhaps you could balance the two out. But having those core habits at the beginning is really fundamental to having a healthy lifestyle.

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I remember you used to start your podcast with this.

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I remember you used to start your podcast with this.

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And everyone's is different. My non-negotiable is exercise. Like I exercise every single day. If I go a day without exercising, I don't feel well. I know for other people, their non-negotiables is their morning routine or certain or fasting or other types of habits they have. For me, I take a lot of pleasure from work. So work is something that I definitely plan my day around.

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And everyone's is different. My non-negotiable is exercise. Like I exercise every single day. If I go a day without exercising, I don't feel well. I know for other people, their non-negotiables is their morning routine or certain or fasting or other types of habits they have. For me, I take a lot of pleasure from work. So work is something that I definitely plan my day around.

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Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing

But where it comes to staying healthy and staying productive, it's the daily exercise. So whether it's weightlifting or playing basketball or tennis or cardio, that's a non-negotiable for me and something that I know that will enable me to operate at a high level.

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But where it comes to staying healthy and staying productive, it's the daily exercise. So whether it's weightlifting or playing basketball or tennis or cardio, that's a non-negotiable for me and something that I know that will enable me to operate at a high level.

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Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing

And I think to your question earlier about how come some people can look good without doing all the anti-aging treatments that other people do, it goes back to their ability to know themselves and to not miss things that they know will maintain their health. So for me, that's exercise. For other people, that might be a certain diet. For other people, it's getting seven or eight hours of sleep.

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Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing

And I think to your question earlier about how come some people can look good without doing all the anti-aging treatments that other people do, it goes back to their ability to know themselves and to not miss things that they know will maintain their health. So for me, that's exercise. For other people, that might be a certain diet. For other people, it's getting seven or eight hours of sleep.

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I think everyone has to find what uniquely helps them stay healthy and feel good.

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I think everyone has to find what uniquely helps them stay healthy and feel good.

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I had a period where I was traveling every other weekend. Although now, to be honest, I'm traveling a little bit less and I'm focusing a little bit more on a better routine here in LA. But again, you can live that kind of lifestyle. You can travel as long as you, while you're away, go to the gym, go for a run. I know you don't seem like someone who meditates. I'm not someone who meditates.

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I had a period where I was traveling every other weekend. Although now, to be honest, I'm traveling a little bit less and I'm focusing a little bit more on a better routine here in LA. But again, you can live that kind of lifestyle. You can travel as long as you, while you're away, go to the gym, go for a run. I know you don't seem like someone who meditates. I'm not someone who meditates.

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But for me, when I go for a run, I get that meditative experience. Me too.

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But for me, when I go for a run, I get that meditative experience. Me too.

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Well, that's why I don't use an aura ring. I used to use an aura ring because some days it tells you not to work out. And I realized for me, that doesn't exist. Like I don't, if I didn't get a good night's sleep the night before, I'll still feel better if I go to the gym.

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And luckily, you know, aerobics working out, I think used to be more of a US centric thing where in the US we were very big on it, but in Europe and other places they weren't. But now no matter where you go, hotels have gyms, there's places you can go running. To be honest, it's like just walking too. Like everyone says the same thing.

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Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing

Yeah, what's interesting is this is a new product, the Niagen IV, that is basically a precursor to NAD. If we were getting an NAD IV right now, we would both be so uncomfortable. We wouldn't be able to do the podcast. I think we actually tried to do it at one point and we just couldn't do it.

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They go to Europe, they eat pasta, they have wine, and no one ever gains a pound because they're walking every day. They're eating foods that aren't processed. So I think in whatever extent you can, just being active, moving every day is something anyone can do.

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I'm jealous of people that are morning workout people. I'm not. To me, I have to get through my day of business work, and then I go to the gym. It's also a good departure for me for the day.

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No. I get so much energy when I go after work. If I go in the morning, I'm thinking about other things. I'm worrying about my meetings. I'm on my phone while I'm at the gym. If I go after work, I can just block out two hours of time and not think about anything else.

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I don't have kids. Exactly.

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See, I find that If I know at the end of the day, I have a time set aside to go to the gym or to work out, I can focus on what I need to do knowing I have that bonus at the end of the day. And I also do feel great when I work out in the morning, but most of the time I just don't have the time to do it. But I think everyone knows what makes them tick and knows what works best for them.

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It's just a matter of like holding yourself accountable and doing it. So whether you're a morning person or an afternoon person, if you say you're going to do it, you got to do it.

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That's a big one. I also like eat pretty healthy. I eat a lot, but I eat pretty healthy. I've really recently cut out a lot of gluten from my diet and that's made a big difference. I don't eat a lot of snacks or refined sugars. I'll eat plenty of meals with high protein and other things like that. But I try to cut out like snacking throughout between meals. That's made a big difference for me.

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Sleep is also something that I've really tried to focus on recently. I don't understand people that can sleep four or five hours a night and function. I need seven or eight hours of sleep. And so I've started taking some sleep supplements before I go to bed. I started taking some cortisol blockers that help me not wake up during the middle of the night. Really? And that's helped me quite a bit.

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Yeah.

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So the reason people often wake up at, you know, two, three, four in the morning is because their cortisol levels naturally spike in the middle of the night. And so you wake up, you go to the bathroom or not, and then you sometimes go back to sleep. Sometimes you don't. That was always my problem. I didn't have problems falling asleep early.

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It was waking up in the middle of the night and then not going back to sleep.

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So you can buy supplements online. You know, they have a combination of things like ashwagandha and l-theanine that you can take to help blunt that cortisol spike. And it helps you actually stay asleep in the middle of the night. And even if you do wake up, you'll go back to sleep more quickly.

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Do you remember? Yes. And you need to be like a professional athlete to get through it quickly. And the Niagen IV is much different. It gives you even more benefit than the NAD IV, but you can race through it in 75% faster than you can an NAD IV. So we're going to get the IV done in 30 or so minutes. Really helps with energy, with mood, with sleep, with brain health.

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So it's the stuff before bed, like magnesium and acetal and glycine, and then a cortisol blocker, which helps prevent the spike in the middle of the night.

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These are great. These are like life-changing.

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If you walk away from this podcast with two things, nitrogen IVs and those sleep supplements that I talked about.

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No, they're all natural supplements. And so you can take them individually. Like you can take ashwagandha and l-theanine, but I like, there's a product called Cortisol Manager, which helps block cortisol spikes. We should probably stop our IVs by the way. Yeah.

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Yeah.

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I don't know. I think, for me at least, if I get a good night's sleep the night before, that's everything. I didn't sleep much Saturday night. Last night, I slept nine hours.

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I went to sleep at, got in bed at 8.30 p.m.

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Never happens.

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Do you think that's because of sleep?

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So a lot of benefits of the IV in a very short amount of time.

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But it's worth it. It's worth it.

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Don't have kids.

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I think that's what's interesting now. There's all these like biohacking longevity communities. Yeah. Like I moved to the West side now and I'm everywhere in Venice and Santa Monica, run clubs, infrared sauna clubs, cold plunge groups, like all over the place. This didn't exist like five or 10 years ago.

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Yeah, so like, you know, PAWS has a 20-person sauna in one of their locations where they have sauna days where you can go through. And there are these cold plunge parties where people come and drink coffee and go in cold plunges. There's a place in Venice that just opened up that's putting a 10-person cold plunge on their roof so you can look at the ocean while you're in the cold plunge.

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Like blending, and I think that's what's cool about these social wellness medical facilities now is they're starting to make wellness part of your lifestyle and a way to interact socially. So it's not just you by yourself suffering in a cold punch. You can also like get a date out of it too.

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you know, Venice Run Club. I did it once. And they make you, before you run, identify if you're single or not. So it becomes like a dating plus activity. And it becomes like a huge hit. Everyone wants to do it. It's so much better than going to the bar and getting a drink.

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But tired of drinking. Drinking is over. Like, it's just not fun anymore.

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I mean, we live in LA, so it's easy for us to say that. I'm sure in Nebraska and other places in the country, it's probably not the case, but hopefully eventually we'll extend. Like even for us, you know, I started my IB company, we were in LA and then we did New York and we did major cities. I never in a million years thought I would launch in St.

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Louis, Missouri or Louisville, Kentucky, but there's a demand for this stuff everywhere now. Really? Yeah. And even in Europe, there's places that you'd never think would want IV therapy, but it's starting to get more popular. So whatever we're doing, and I think a lot of it is podcasts like yours and other big podcasts that are espousing this stuff. It's getting the word out there.

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It's in the zeitgeist. People are getting excited about it. They're talking about it with their friends. And there's this like social pressure in a sense, in a good way, to what are you doing for your wellness? What are you doing for your health outside of just working and going out? There's like a whole undercurrent now, which is pushing this stuff to the forefront.

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Not to keep plugging places, but Hume is a place in Venice, which has a rooftop and they're building a 20% cold plunge up there. So you can work out and go up to the rooftop in the sun and be in a cold plunge with other people. There's a, there's a get together that every two or three weeks called coffee and chill, where you go and have a coffee and literally chill that 37 degrees.

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I mean, I, I'm in LA. So a lot of the stuff that I do is here. So, you know, maybe for those that aren't in LA, you'll have to come visit, but like motion LA is another good one. Again, they have workout. They do have these big groups where you work out, you do a cold plunge. They have a bunch of sponsors like magic mind and other type of wellness oriented products and services.

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Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing

Those in the biohacking community have known about NAD for a long time, but it's great that now it's becoming more mainstream. Makes my job a lot easier that I don't have to explain it to as many people because people are starting to hear about it now from their friends, their doctors, and so forth. But essentially, NAD is an enzyme, a coenzyme, that helps your body generate chemical reactions.

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And you meeting people in a environment, which isn't revolving around drinking and it's wonderful. And you're, you're meeting people that you love.

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This is good because now that we're all going to live to 180 years old, we're going to need to find activities that aren't bad on our joints.

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So birdwatching would be perfect for that.

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It's just the amount of penetration into your body. So cryotherapy generally cools down the outer surface of your skin and so isn't getting that deeper level of cooling that you get from a cold plunge. I personally have a really hard time with cold punch. And that's probably because I don't meditate and I get in there and immediately the second I get in there, I say, I got to get out of here.

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This is insane. With breath work and coaching, I can stand a minute or two. I don't do the six to 10 minutes like some people do, but that really does help reduce stress, reduce your inflammation. Because at the end of the day, like that's the key is reducing inflammation. All this stuff we're talking about is reducing cortisol levels, reducing inflammation, reducing

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Because that is what erodes your body's function over time.

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So I think there's a physiological benefit of it and then also a psychological benefit. Learning how to manage your emotion around, I need to get out of this stressful situation right away rather than dealing with it, I think is an entirely different benefit other than the physiological benefit.

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I'm certainly someone who like feels that way initially with tough situations, but learning how to manage that psychological pressure and overcome it and get through it is something that even if you have that initial cortisol spike, learning how to get through that and control your breathing and get through the experience, anyone can do it. It's just a matter of managing your emotions around it.

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So everything you do in the world requires your body to be generating chemical reactions. And you burn through your NAD levels. And as you age, you produce less and less NAD, which is one of the reasons that contributes to aging.

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Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing

Yeah, well, I think just to catch people up, you mentioned peptides. Peptides are great. There's hundreds of different peptides for different functions. They're very targeted. There are peptides that can increase growth hormone. There are peptides that can reduce inflammation. There's peptides for sleep, for weight loss, for libido.

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So for those who don't know a lot about peptides, talk to your doctor and learn about the various different types of peptides that can be beneficial. We talked a lot about NAD and Niagen earlier on. That is something that is kind of a core component of a good longevity strategy to replace that.

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If you want to go a little bit deeper down the rabbit hole, there's things like exosomes and stem cells, which I'm sure people have heard about if they're interested in biohacking, but the way in which they're being used now are really amazing. So for years, people were doing intra-articular injections of stem cells and exosomes into the joints. So you...

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you hurt your knee, you hurt your ankle, you hurt your elbow, you get an injection into the joint from your orthopedic surgeon. And that's great for tissue repair in a very local area.

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But for anti-aging purposes, you can get an IV of exosomes or stem cells, and the cells themselves won't just treat a particular joint, but they'll actually travel throughout your body and regenerate different areas of your body that need regeneration.

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For those who don't know the difference, stem cells are actual immature cells that are harvested from birth products at the time of birth and haven't differentiated into muscle cells, liver cells, brain cells. So you're giving your body a blank check to then produce whatever cells it needs.

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So interestingly enough, you might find someone who has back pain and they get a stem cell infusion for their back pain, but those cells will actually travel also to their pancreas and potentially can help reverse some aspects of diabetes. So stem cells as a general category are really emerging as an incredible tool. Exosomes are the byproduct of stem cells.

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So they're the milieu that a stem cell exists in. It's the growth factors, the RNA, the DNA that produce a very potent anti-inflammatory effect in the short term. So they don't grow tissue the way that stem cells do, but you use it very focally to help treat inflammation in the short term.

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so from an anti-aging perspective nad is really helpful for helping reverse the clock so as you're performing these chemical reactions your body is using up the nad almost like a blank check so whether you need more energy or better sleep you have addiction problems or whatnot nad is really giving your body what it needs through that chemical reaction process it's

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So I would say both of those, in addition to the NAD, the niagen, the peptides, are some really helpful anti-aging treatments you can look into.

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The difference is here in the US, you're not able to expand stem cells. So what you harvest at the time of birth, that's what you can infuse into someone. Outside of the US, there aren't restrictions against expansion.

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So they can take a group of stem cells, put it in the petri dish, grow it by a thousand times or 10,000 times, and then use those to... So you might find an infusion outside the US with... a factor of 10 times as many cells as you will get here. And so in that sense, it could be more effective, but the actual cells themselves are the same cells.

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Yeah.

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But there's also an argument to be made that expanding the cells, each time you expand, do you lose a little efficacy of that additional cell? So I haven't looked at the studies directly, but that's essentially the way to think about it.

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Well, microneedling is very popular. Is that not what you had or is it actual like injections?

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That's pretty invasive. I would say that you get a lot of benefit from microneedling with stem cells or exosomes. And that is micropunctures in the skin that if you put numbing cream on, you can barely feel the needle. And then 30 minutes later, you can get a microneedling treatment done. And it's extremely effective. You get a new glow on your skin after that.

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Yeah, you massage them into the pores that you create. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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It's also not as painful.

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I also think like mental health is super important to your longevity. And there's a lot of work being done now by using psychedelics in mental health, especially ketamine, which is now FDA approved for the treatment of depression and anxiety and other mental health disorders.

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powering your energy production in your mitochondria. So at a very basic level, as you age and your body requires more and more NAD, repleting it with IVs or orally can really help you give yourself the stuff it needs to help prepare itself.

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Yeah.

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it is so basically just at a high level the way the ketamine works is it's a dissociative so when given either orally through a lozenge or iv or intramuscularly it causes a sort of self-limited 40 45 minute experience that you can have someone go through and it really helps them break negative thought patterns in their brain and then rewire their neural pathways through neuroplasticity in a healthier way

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So let's say, for example, you had someone who had PTSD and they've never thought about a certain experience they had, which obviously triggers them and causes them to have trauma. They can now access that thought in that controlled space and rewire their thinking about it. So you can imagine it's like having years of therapy to process something in one setting.

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And so when done properly with professional guidance, it can be extremely impactful. Same thing with anxiety and depression. If you have these negative thought loops that you can't get out of, ketamine therapy can help break those thought loops and rewire your thinking in a more healthy way.

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So there's different ways of taking ketamine. You can do lozenge therapy, which is like self-administered and usually you do it at your home or, you know, another setting like that with or without therapeutic support. And then the more potent way of doing it is via IV or intramuscular therapy.

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And that's when you have a provider there, a doctor, a nurse practitioner who's administering the treatment and kind of guiding you through it.

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It's cumulative. You can have benefit from just one session, but a lot of the studies have shown it's between four to eight sessions over a two month period that really gets the most benefit, especially when combined with elements that help you improve your mindfulness. So journaling, meditation, breath work to help you reframe your mindset in a more healthy way.

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Now that you've created that dissociative effect that allows you to recreate your neural pathways.

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I have, and it's wonderful.

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I've done several lozenge treatments, and I've done one intramuscular treatment. Intramuscular treatment is a lot more potent, so it was really helpful for me to have a provider there with me to guide me through it.

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Yeah, but I wasn't in the right state of mind to provide assistance to myself at the time.

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Yeah, it's a gluteal injection in your buttock. And it's essentially the same thing, about a 40, 45 minute experience.

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So you'll feel fine an hour later. You can go about your day. But the effect can be life-changing. If you reprocess thoughts, if you have more clarity on events in your life, if you can reframe your thinking about things, you can have long-lasting effects in the same way that you could from therapy, which helps you reframe your thinking about certain things.

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So again, all of this to say stress, anxiety, depression are one of the biggest contributing factors to aging and lack of longevity. So there are other ways to treat longevity other than the typical things that are out there that people are talking about.

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Great question. So NAD is made up of two things, made up of NR and NMN. And so a lot of people are out there selling NR supplements, selling NMN supplements. NAD is the combination of two. But the reason you hear about NAD specifically with IVs is that it's not bioavailable. So if you take it orally, you can't absorb it into the cells, which is why you have NR and NMN supplements.

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So I think earlier in the podcast, we talked about some of the factors that cause reduced NAD levels, stress, anxiety, toxins. As you can imagine, people with addiction issues are encountering a higher level of toxins than the regular, the general public.

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So giving them NAD injections, niagen infusions can really help them replete those neurotransmitters that are lost and then the NAD that's lost in a way which is probably more impactful for them than someone in the general public who isn't encountering that level of toxin.

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So NAD can help anyone. And I think it would probably be more helpful for someone with addiction problems, just given their bodies, the harmful effects of toxins on the body. And so rather than just focusing on traditional pharmaceutical medications, which can be toxic in their own right, it's a nice adjunct treatment to pharmacological treatment for anxiety and for mental health issues.

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Well, I mean, I think testing is a part of this too. We've talked a lot about treatment. So let's take a step back and think about making a customized treatment plan for yourself. So I'm a pretty healthy guy. I've been told for years I'm healthy. I actually just did an environmental toxin test and found out that I have mold toxicity, heavy metals, microplastics.

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And so my treatment plan, it's not a... complex treatment plan in the sense of like novel treatments, but it's treating the root cause of what's going on inside my body. So for me, I take a binder, which helps bind the plastics. And then I go into a sauna three times a week to help get rid of the plastics.

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So I think rather than only thinking about what's the latest and greatest treatment that's out there, think about what can I do to actually treat what's going on inside my body and testing is important.

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There's a company out there which has a, it's called a total tox burden test. You don't do it? We do it. And I meant the test itself is produced by them. And so we administer for patients at home. We get the results in a couple of weeks. And then we put together a specific treatment plan to treat those specific elements. So for me, it was the binders that I mentioned plus sauna.

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Because of the mold toxicity, I actually ended up moving offices because we found mold in my old office. I moved houses actually, not because of that, but it helped with the mold.

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and really making sure to wash my fruits and vegetables carefully because a lot of times they have mold on them there's a whole host of things you can do air purifiers at home in the office heavy metals is another thing that i found so making sure that the fish that you're eating things like that is organic fresh wild caught so for me that was my specific treatment plan i'm sure for other people they have they'll find things that they may not have noticed

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from their normal primary care doctor.

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Yeah. That test is a game changer for sure. Because for so many of us, you go to get the same lab work done every year. The ranges are so large and they're like, oh, you're low normal or high normal, but it's not getting to the actual cause of what's causing that. And so for me, I had inflammation in my body and I'm super healthy.

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No one could explain it, but it wasn't until I did this test that I actually figured out what was causing that. And that was leading to a whole host of other things.

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So with this IV in particular that we're getting right now, because it's NR, it can pass through directly into our cells without having to get broken down first. Which is why when you get an NAD IV, it takes three hours because you have to infuse it, it gets broken down, it's uncomfortable, and then it's absorbed up into the cells.

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some reduced kidney function, some elevated liver enzymes, these micro traumas that I was having to my body from all the toxins that I was encountering.

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It's a few hundred dollars. It's very affordable for people that really are... making health their priority and want to get to the root cause of their problems. I think coming at your health from a naturopathic perspective can be very helpful, rather than just thinking about Western medicine, which is focused on disease treatment, disease treatment.

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There's other ways of thinking about your health in terms of root cause problems, how to assess that. And then treatment is the last step. It's really identifying the root cause problem first before you even get to the treatment.

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The total tox burden test. That's one of them. There's many other tests, you know, people have been talking about for years, but I think are important. Like got microbiome testing, food sensitivity testing. If you are lactose intolerant or lactose insensitive, like I am, just having a little pizza or milk doesn't cause me to be violently sick, but it does cause micro inflammation in my gut.

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And things like that are important for people to get. And most people don't get that from their regular doctor.

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stool sense, stool microbiome testing, food sensitivity, total tox burden. These are all the markers for inflammation that you will see far before you get to the actual disease process.

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A lot of this reduces inflammation. So you feel more energy. Do you feel? You feel more clear-headed. You feel your lab values will certainly improve because you're taking out that inflammation from your body. You'll feel subjective benefits first, and then over time, certainly objective benefits in your lab work.

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That's a great test. I highly recommend it.

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We haven't talked in four years. I know. Four years.

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So genetic testing is on the cusp of really great things. At least in the outset now, it can be helpful for getting a phenotype for yourself so you understand how your body reacts to certain things. But eventually, treatments will be geared toward your specific genetic phenotype or genotype. And that's really when I think it's going to be super impactful.

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So for now, it's helpful just to understand where you are in the milieu of genetics and testing. But in the future, I think it's going to be targeted to therapies based on your specific gene type.

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Well, there are genetic tests that can test you for cancer markers, like the gallery test, which is incredibly important for people to take. So as part of like, I think a comprehensive health plan, you obviously need your just basic blocking and tackling your cardiovascular health, your lipid panel, your blood sugars, your liver, kidney function, and all of those things.

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Whereas the Niagen IV with NR is absorbed directly into the cells as you infuse it.

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I think some of the specialty tests, like we talked about, gut microbiome, food sensitivity, environmental toxin, but then you go into your genetic testing, like the gallery cancer test, epigenetic test, the test your biological age and whatnot. And then for like prevention purposes, there's the clearly heart scan, which I think is really helpful for most people, and that's getting more popular.

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What's it called? The Clearly Heart Scan. So it's a cardiovascular test that tests your risk of having a cardiac event. And I think for a long time, people, Western medicine was reluctant to have people do expensive testing proactively. And we kind of waited till it was more of a disease stage before testing and treating.

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Now, I think there's a movement toward, especially as these companies do direct-to-consumer testing, like Clearly and Prenuvo is another MRI scan, full-body MRI scan that can be helpful for prevention. People are seeking these tests earlier and earlier and earlier in their lives and finding out things about their body earlier than they have before.

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I think it's incredible. I think people should get it as part of their, not annual physical, but at least every five years, starting at the age of 40 or so, just to give yourself a baseline to know what's going on in your body. It's a diagnostic test that can track changes over time.

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So even if you don't find something that is pinpoint disease, you'll find changes over time if you do it on a consistent basis.

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This is great. I'll see you, what, like 2028 or something like that?

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Well, the good news is we're going to be aging backwards now, so we'll actually get younger the next time we do this podcast. Good.

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I think that's fine.

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Oh, WellnessMD. Yeah, that's an interesting company. I've learned a lot in growing the businesses that I run myself. And I've kind of used that to help other people launch their health businesses and scale them across the country. So that's another way people can find me through WellnessMD group.

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Don't you want your doctor to do that?

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Yes. We should get Neil on the podcast too.

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You can ask him all your burning cosmetic questions.

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Glad we got a plug-in for Neil.

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So there's been studies on both sides, NR and NMN, about the bioavailability and effectiveness. I think there's studies on both sides, but it's clearly evident that NR is absorbed into the cell directly, whereas NAD has to be broken down into the two components. And that's why you see supplements selling oral NR or NMN. You won't see supplements selling oral NAD.

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would say that the literature at this point is pointing to nr being more effective and more absorbed better absorbed into the cell and leading to higher levels of nad and really ultimately that's what you're trying to get you're trying to get higher levels of nad so what's really important is to actually track your increase in nad levels to get an objective measurement and that's what's exciting right now a lot of people have been talking about the subjective benefits of nad for years

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Better energy, better sleep, better mood. But now there are tests coming out which can objectively measure your NAD levels after taking supplementation, either orally or via IV.

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Where can people find those in the archives? Those archives? I think they would be very entertaining.

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I would say the hierarchy in terms of effectiveness and absorption is the best way you can take any supplement for that matter is really IV because that gets completely absorbed into the cell, then intramuscular or subcutaneous, and then oral. And so the amount of NAD... gain you can generate from a treatment via IV is far greater than what you can gain via oral.

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If you had to take oral pills to equal the amount of NAD that you're getting from an IV infusion, you'd have to take many, many pills, and that just wouldn't feel good in your stomach. So for most people, the amount of NAD delivered via IV is far greater than an oral pill, which is why you generally see better absorption rates via IV. Can you OD? No, that's a great question.

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You asked me the other day, you said, hey, I just got an iGen IV the other day. Can I have another one today? It's like putting gasoline in your car or getting an oil change. Your car will run more efficiently if you get an oil change every day, but you can't have too many oil changes. And so I say to people, your body will use up whatever you give it.

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You're constantly performing chemical reactions and using up NAD. So the more you give yourself, the better it will run.

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It's a molecule that your body is constantly using it. So you will use NAD on a several day lag time. So if you get an IV today, you'll use it up over the next two or three days. You're not going to use it up all right away, but your body will use more of it the more you give it. And so it is soluble. So if you do, you could essentially urinate it out.

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It's not going to overbuild in your body, but you really can't take too much of it.

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It's a great question. So I like to think of supplements or any treatment for that matter in terms of precursors versus end products. So if you give your body an end product, like if you give your body testosterone or if you give your body growth hormone, it triggers your body's natural reaction to stop production because you're getting it exogenously.

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But NED, because it's an enzyme, it's a precursor, it's fueling your body's production even more. So your body knows what to do with it and to generate more of it. So if you give your body an end product versus a precursor, your body would shut down its production. But if you give your body a precursor, it's actually stimulating it to produce more.

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So think about your body is always trying to self-correct. And as you age, part of what causes aging is your body's inability to self-correct. And studies have shown that NAD levels naturally over time decrease. So at the age of 30 or 35, your body starts slowing down its production of NAD. Therefore, it can't self-correct as well.

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Additionally, toxins, stress, alcohol, other things that we encounter on a day-to-day basis reduce our levels. So in a perfect world, if we never reduced our production of NAD or plenty of other things that cause aging, we wouldn't age. But the idea is to find out what is causing the harmful effects of aging and replace that in a safe way to slow the effects of aging.

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It's a great question. There's a couple of things you can do. So first of all, subjective benefit is benefit. Whether or not you can measure it, there are still plenty of subjective benefits of treatments like this, as there are with cold plunge and with infrared sauna and other things you can do. And it's not that there's one silver bullet that accomplishes everything.

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I think they each incrementally help. That being said, you obviously want to have objective benefits as well. So you can check NAD levels. You can check your biological age. That's a very popular test now that there's a couple of different companies that sell.

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That tests things like methylation on your DNA strands and essentially measures how close to being pure your DNA strands are from how they were when they were originally created. And that's why you can check your biological age versus your chronological age and see what the difference is. So there are definitely objective measures of aging that people can check.

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And guys like Brian Johnson have a large discrepancy between their biological age and their chronological age through all the things that they're doing.

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Pleasure. See, this is what happened. You put me on the podcast. I learned all your trade secrets and I just went out and started my own business.

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So I think in addition to all the things we're talking about, NAD, niagen IVs, infrared sauna, cold punch, there's a lot of other factors that you can control internally, which make a big difference, like sleep. like lack of stress, like exercise. I know Peter Attia likes to talk about the things that are like non-negotiable and then things you can do that are to supplement your everyday routines.

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The non-negotiable stuff, you have to sleep, you have to eat, you have to live a life stress-free. That stuff is extremely impactful. So even people that aren't necessarily doing the infrared sauna and the cold plunge, if they have other good habits, they can look great. So I take that with a grain of salt. I think if you had poor...

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Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing

habits, and then you did NAD and cold plunge in the foot sauna, perhaps you could balance the two out. But having those core habits at the beginning is really fundamental to having a healthy lifestyle.

Habits and Hustle
Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing

I remember you used to start your podcast with this.

Habits and Hustle
Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing

And everyone's is different. My non-negotiable is exercise. Like I exercise every single day. If I go a day without exercising, I don't feel well. I know for other people, their non-negotiables is their morning routine or certain or fasting or other types of habits they have. For me, I take a lot of pleasure from work. So work is something that I definitely plan my day around.

Habits and Hustle
Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing

But where it comes to staying healthy and staying productive, it's the daily exercise. So whether it's weightlifting or playing basketball or tennis or cardio, that's a non-negotiable for me and something that I know that will enable me to operate at a high level.

Habits and Hustle
Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing

And I think to your question earlier about how come some people can look good without doing all the anti-aging treatments that other people do, it goes back to their ability to know themselves and to not miss things that they know will maintain their health. So for me, that's exercise. For other people, that might be a certain diet. For other people, it's getting seven or eight hours of sleep.

Habits and Hustle
Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing

I think everyone has to find what uniquely helps them stay healthy and feel good.

Habits and Hustle
Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing

I had a period where I was traveling every other weekend. Although now, to be honest, I'm traveling a little bit less and I'm focusing a little bit more on a better routine here in LA. But again, you can live that kind of lifestyle. You can travel as long as you, while you're away, go to the gym, go for a run. I know you don't seem like someone who meditates. I'm not someone who meditates.

Habits and Hustle
Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing

But for me, when I go for a run, I get that meditative experience. Me too.