Liron Kayvan

Hi guys, it's Tony Robbins. You're listening to Habits & Hustle. Crush it!

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That's why we're so tribal about our politics. And I think tribalism should stay out of politics. And I think fitness is a much better place for tribalism because you push each other and you, you know, it's, it's a positive feedback loop and whether it's getting in ice baths or working out or whatever, we do need that sense of we're doing this together. We're in this together.

That's why we're so tribal about our politics. And I think tribalism should stay out of politics. And I think fitness is a much better place for tribalism because you push each other and you, you know, it's, it's a positive feedback loop and whether it's getting in ice baths or working out or whatever, we do need that sense of we're doing this together. We're in this together.

Not even remembering what you did. Waking up the next day and be like, what happened last night? Like, what did you get out of that?

Not even remembering what you did. Waking up the next day and be like, what happened last night? Like, what did you get out of that?

You didn't integrate any of that. That didn't build your life in any way, shape or form. I get it. Look, I used to do it all the time. But you're not building anything like that. No, I...

You didn't integrate any of that. That didn't build your life in any way, shape or form. I get it. Look, I used to do it all the time. But you're not building anything like that. No, I...

You're doing all the things that we would previously doing at clubs, except you're doing it a bit more during the day and you're not filling your body with poison, but you're getting really all the upsides without the downside.

You're doing all the things that we would previously doing at clubs, except you're doing it a bit more during the day and you're not filling your body with poison, but you're getting really all the upsides without the downside.

And you're not going to sleep at 4am and ruining the next day. You're just doing it during the day and you're getting most of those benefits.

And you're not going to sleep at 4am and ruining the next day. You're just doing it during the day and you're getting most of those benefits.

Yes. Especially as we move into the technological age.

Yes. Especially as we move into the technological age.

Especially like real life, like physically together.

Especially like real life, like physically together.

Not digitally, like, which is maybe one step better than just being in your room by yourself. But like, I think like being on a Facebook group is not going to give you the same benefits, like in terms of your body and the wellness factor that you just mentioned. I think you physically have to be around those people.

Not digitally, like, which is maybe one step better than just being in your room by yourself. But like, I think like being on a Facebook group is not going to give you the same benefits, like in terms of your body and the wellness factor that you just mentioned. I think you physically have to be around those people.

I think there's a common theme because you can go into a million ways, right? But I think the- That would work though. Yeah, yeah. But there's a million little tricks you could use, but I'm saying one of the real common themes that binds it all together is the enjoyment piece, which you could take this the wrong way.

I think there's a common theme because you can go into a million ways, right? But I think the- That would work though. Yeah, yeah. But there's a million little tricks you could use, but I'm saying one of the real common themes that binds it all together is the enjoyment piece, which you could take this the wrong way.

People could take this the wrong way and saying, I always have to feel like doing something. And that's not true at all. Your feelings are really momentary and fleeting- And you and I, at least with regard to the things that we're successful at and that we are doing well with, for example, fitness, we don't really pay much attention to our feelings because we know they're fleeting.

People could take this the wrong way and saying, I always have to feel like doing something. And that's not true at all. Your feelings are really momentary and fleeting- And you and I, at least with regard to the things that we're successful at and that we are doing well with, for example, fitness, we don't really pay much attention to our feelings because we know they're fleeting.

But at the same time, we are doing something. We're passionate and overall, we love our fitness and we're passionate and we do enjoy it.

But at the same time, we are doing something. We're passionate and overall, we love our fitness and we're passionate and we do enjoy it.

But then let me, going back to the thing I said before, let me ask you, with regard to like making your kids a sandwich, do you feel better after you've done it?

But then let me, going back to the thing I said before, let me ask you, with regard to like making your kids a sandwich, do you feel better after you've done it?

Oh, yeah. It's a completely negative spiral. You're just going to spiral down at that point.

Oh, yeah. It's a completely negative spiral. You're just going to spiral down at that point.

You're about to fitness? Yeah. Oh, for sure.

You're about to fitness? Yeah. Oh, for sure.

As a gym owner, I wholeheartedly support that. Thank you, exactly.

As a gym owner, I wholeheartedly support that. Thank you, exactly.

No, but I love it, like calisthenics and stuff. I do so much calisthenics.

No, but I love it, like calisthenics and stuff. I do so much calisthenics.

If you saw my dad, you wouldn't say that. Well, okay.

If you saw my dad, you wouldn't say that. Well, okay.

My philosophy is exactly actually coming from that. Like I think that you should like calisthenics should be your base and then you add on to calisthenics. Like if you can't do a bodyweight squat or a push-up or a pull-up, you shouldn't be doing heavy squats or bench press.

My philosophy is exactly actually coming from that. Like I think that you should like calisthenics should be your base and then you add on to calisthenics. Like if you can't do a bodyweight squat or a push-up or a pull-up, you shouldn't be doing heavy squats or bench press.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Do you know what helps with that a lot? What? Something we spoke about earlier is the momentum piece. Wait, let me finish my thought.

Do you know what helps with that a lot? What? Something we spoke about earlier is the momentum piece. Wait, let me finish my thought.

Now that's exactly what I was going to say is, is the momentum piece is start easy. Like your first workout of a new program, or if you haven't worked out for a while or whatever, whenever you're starting a new phase of something, it should be dead easy. You should like just leave and be like, damn, I probably could have done more.

Now that's exactly what I was going to say is, is the momentum piece is start easy. Like your first workout of a new program, or if you haven't worked out for a while or whatever, whenever you're starting a new phase of something, it should be dead easy. You should like just leave and be like, damn, I probably could have done more.

as opposed to crushing yourself right at the beginning, because the ego and even the body is not really ready for that at the beginning. You need to generate this. You need to get the snowball kind of rolling. And most people want to jump in at the deep end and they wonder why they're drowning all the time.

as opposed to crushing yourself right at the beginning, because the ego and even the body is not really ready for that at the beginning. You need to generate this. You need to get the snowball kind of rolling. And most people want to jump in at the deep end and they wonder why they're drowning all the time.

It's like, no, start easy, leave, come back, make it a little bit harder, leave, come back, make it a little bit harder. And before you know it, you're flying, but you've got to start simple and easy and then generate the momentum.

It's like, no, start easy, leave, come back, make it a little bit harder, leave, come back, make it a little bit harder. And before you know it, you're flying, but you've got to start simple and easy and then generate the momentum.

100%.

100%.

I'm curious to see what other people find effective for them too. Yeah.

I'm curious to see what other people find effective for them too. Yeah.

Thumbs it up.

Thumbs it up.

Yep.

Yep.

If you get to March, good for you. Really? Yeah.

If you get to March, good for you. Really? Yeah.

Yeah. It's crazy how that happens. The resolution is go back into their cave.

Yeah. It's crazy how that happens. The resolution is go back into their cave.

Yeah. Yeah. I don't know how people don't, I don't know how people don't work out sometimes. So I'm just like, so what do you do? You just go home from work and you like eat pasta and put the TV on. Like it just, I just, I don't really get it. Like you feel so much better and you function so much better when you're working out. I don't get why people wouldn't.

Yeah. Yeah. I don't know how people don't, I don't know how people don't work out sometimes. So I'm just like, so what do you do? You just go home from work and you like eat pasta and put the TV on. Like it just, I just, I don't really get it. Like you feel so much better and you function so much better when you're working out. I don't get why people wouldn't.

And that's what I tell people, especially my clients. I'm always like, I think the difference between people who work out regularly and people who don't is when someone doesn't work out regularly or struggles to get into a workout habit, it's because their brain is picturing how it's going to feel like getting to the gym and walking in the door.

And that's what I tell people, especially my clients. I'm always like, I think the difference between people who work out regularly and people who don't is when someone doesn't work out regularly or struggles to get into a workout habit, it's because their brain is picturing how it's going to feel like getting to the gym and walking in the door.

And people who are successful and have stuck with a workout plan are thinking about how they feel when they leave the gym. So everyone feels better after a workout, 9.9 times out of 10, unless you're like sick or something like that. But you're always going to feel better when you leave the gym.

And people who are successful and have stuck with a workout plan are thinking about how they feel when they leave the gym. So everyone feels better after a workout, 9.9 times out of 10, unless you're like sick or something like that. But you're always going to feel better when you leave the gym.

And fit people, people like you and me who go often, are subtly and unconsciously thinking about they're weighing heavier the feeling of leaving the gym and feeling good and accomplished and having your juices flowing and being charged up. And people who struggle are unconsciously weighing the feeling of getting to the gym.

And fit people, people like you and me who go often, are subtly and unconsciously thinking about they're weighing heavier the feeling of leaving the gym and feeling good and accomplished and having your juices flowing and being charged up. And people who struggle are unconsciously weighing the feeling of getting to the gym.

That's for sure. Right.

That's for sure. Right.

Or at the very least, a window of when it's going to get done. Whether it's 1 or 1.30, like there's got to be some window. This is my workout time.

Or at the very least, a window of when it's going to get done. Whether it's 1 or 1.30, like there's got to be some window. This is my workout time.

It also helps to find out what people like, what they think. Exactly.

It also helps to find out what people like, what they think. Exactly.

agreed to the gym agreed 100 the convenience factor is really overlooked i always tell people that when they're asking about trying to start a fitness routine i'm like the first i mean ultimately the only thing that's important is that you actually do it and so if something's really inconvenient to the point where you can't or you just don't want to do something like if the gym is too far away or the parking isn't fun or whatever it is right whatever that barrier is if you can't surmount that and you don't go then you could have the best gym in the world you can have the best

agreed to the gym agreed 100 the convenience factor is really overlooked i always tell people that when they're asking about trying to start a fitness routine i'm like the first i mean ultimately the only thing that's important is that you actually do it and so if something's really inconvenient to the point where you can't or you just don't want to do something like if the gym is too far away or the parking isn't fun or whatever it is right whatever that barrier is if you can't surmount that and you don't go then you could have the best gym in the world you can have the best

And it depends where you're coming from. So if you're starting from zero, which a lot of people are, I don't know who your listener base is.

And it depends where you're coming from. So if you're starting from zero, which a lot of people are, I don't know who your listener base is.

Mainstream, yeah.

Mainstream, yeah.

One way, yeah, one way street. It's not like a conversation.

One way, yeah, one way street. It's not like a conversation.

I think with fitness, as with pretty much anything, if you want to achieve anything of consequence, you have to use the momentum factor. So if somebody, if you don't have any momentum, if you were injured or you're sick or you haven't worked out for a year or two or whatever it is, then you need to just move. You need to do something. And walking is probably your best bet.

I think with fitness, as with pretty much anything, if you want to achieve anything of consequence, you have to use the momentum factor. So if somebody, if you don't have any momentum, if you were injured or you're sick or you haven't worked out for a year or two or whatever it is, then you need to just move. You need to do something. And walking is probably your best bet.

like your base and people should be doing that all the time anyway people should be moving period like whether you're old or young or heavy or light or man or woman like everyone should be walking a good amount because it's literally how our bodies were designed you know there was like a lot of talk chatter last year about like how walking it isn't enough for a workout plan and

like your base and people should be doing that all the time anyway people should be moving period like whether you're old or young or heavy or light or man or woman like everyone should be walking a good amount because it's literally how our bodies were designed you know there was like a lot of talk chatter last year about like how walking it isn't enough for a workout plan and

No, I get it. It's a trendy name that somebody used to give themselves a little bit of clout, but... Yeah, weighted walking.

No, I get it. It's a trendy name that somebody used to give themselves a little bit of clout, but... Yeah, weighted walking.

I was doing it with my 28-year-old son for a while. I just put him on my front. 28-year-old son? 28-year-old, 28-pound weight.

I was doing it with my 28-year-old son for a while. I just put him on my front. 28-year-old son? 28-year-old, 28-pound weight.

That makes more sense. That would be amazing.

That makes more sense. That would be amazing.

If at 36 I had a 28-year-old son, period, and then I put him on my front, that would be... It would have worked really well because you're really fit. That would be fantastic, yeah. But no, unfortunately, he's just 28 pounds, not 28 years old.

If at 36 I had a 28-year-old son, period, and then I put him on my front, that would be... It would have worked really well because you're really fit. That would be fantastic, yeah. But no, unfortunately, he's just 28 pounds, not 28 years old.

mood factor of like boosting your mood i think that in itself is worth because it's how we're designed it's like literally in our dna we are designed to walk it's what separates us from the whole animal kingdom pretty much is that we're bipedal when we walk and that's how we're meant to function so we're not gonna we're not gonna work very well if we're not doing these basic things that we're designed for yeah and walking is literally just how we how we're built how our bodies are built

mood factor of like boosting your mood i think that in itself is worth because it's how we're designed it's like literally in our dna we are designed to walk it's what separates us from the whole animal kingdom pretty much is that we're bipedal when we walk and that's how we're meant to function so we're not gonna we're not gonna work very well if we're not doing these basic things that we're designed for yeah and walking is literally just how we how we're built how our bodies are built

Just comment, don't like.

Just comment, don't like.

Oh, yeah. Like run clubs and stuff.

Oh, yeah. Like run clubs and stuff.

Yeah, yeah.

Yeah, yeah.

It's a great positive social change. I heard about one called Coffee and Chill. Did you hear about this one? Coffee and chill. Coffee and chill. So they, I guess, I heard it in a cursory way, but someone said that there's a club where everyone like drinks coffee and then goes to the sauna and then gets an ice bath together. Yeah.

It's a great positive social change. I heard about one called Coffee and Chill. Did you hear about this one? Coffee and chill. Coffee and chill. So they, I guess, I heard it in a cursory way, but someone said that there's a club where everyone like drinks coffee and then goes to the sauna and then gets an ice bath together. Yeah.

There's always someone.

There's always someone.

And it's definitely like, it's a scene, like from the way the guy was describing it, he was like, oh, there's chicks there and all this type of stuff. But I think, people clearly need, that's like a human thing. Like we need that, especially if you're single, but even if you're not, we need this, we need to do things tribally. Like it's literally how we are.

And it's definitely like, it's a scene, like from the way the guy was describing it, he was like, oh, there's chicks there and all this type of stuff. But I think, people clearly need, that's like a human thing. Like we need that, especially if you're single, but even if you're not, we need this, we need to do things tribally. Like it's literally how we are.

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we do hybrid so we do boxing we do a little bit of like our twist on pilates we do a bunch of weightlifting but the flagship like the the main thing that everyone loves is the combination of weightlifting and boxing so you're getting two very different systems you're getting muscle building you're getting fat burning you're getting you know power and you're getting metabolic conditioning so you're really training to be very well-rounded

we do hybrid so we do boxing we do a little bit of like our twist on pilates we do a bunch of weightlifting but the flagship like the the main thing that everyone loves is the combination of weightlifting and boxing so you're getting two very different systems you're getting muscle building you're getting fat burning you're getting you know power and you're getting metabolic conditioning so you're really training to be very well-rounded

That's why we have our twist on it.

That's why we have our twist on it.

It's been around forever. I love that. I respect that.

It's been around forever. I love that. I respect that.

I think they do. It's your show. I don't know.

I think they do. It's your show. I don't know.

Yeah, I agree.

Yeah, I agree.

I think that's really important. Like my protocol always, like my training protocol always has an element of, even though I say I don't like cardio because when I'm talking about cardio, I'm talking about like walking and running on a treadmill, but I play soccer every single week. I box every single week. My heart rate is going up to 180 plus every single, like numerous times a week.

I think that's really important. Like my protocol always, like my training protocol always has an element of, even though I say I don't like cardio because when I'm talking about cardio, I'm talking about like walking and running on a treadmill, but I play soccer every single week. I box every single week. My heart rate is going up to 180 plus every single, like numerous times a week.

So being a well-rounded, well-balanced athlete, or just person in general is super crucial. And I think a good group fitness gym will try at least to check those boxes or admit that they only do one thing and that somebody should be training someone.

So being a well-rounded, well-balanced athlete, or just person in general is super crucial. And I think a good group fitness gym will try at least to check those boxes or admit that they only do one thing and that somebody should be training someone.

The class passes.

The class passes.

But it's been around a long time.

But it's been around a long time.

It really taps into a niche though. It's very much a woman's thing. It has no eccentric component, I think. It's very little eccentric. Actually, there are guys, a lot of- It started by a guy, pretty hardcore dude, Mr. Pilates. He was a hardcore German guy.

It really taps into a niche though. It's very much a woman's thing. It has no eccentric component, I think. It's very little eccentric. Actually, there are guys, a lot of- It started by a guy, pretty hardcore dude, Mr. Pilates. He was a hardcore German guy.

Boxer, weightlifter, like serious, serious guy.

Boxer, weightlifter, like serious, serious guy.

Band work, activation, you know, hip flexors.

Band work, activation, you know, hip flexors.

You're welcome.

You're welcome.

Without further ado.

Without further ado.

We do a lot of things, but group fitness is a big part of it.

We do a lot of things, but group fitness is a big part of it.

So I agree with both of the things you said. One, that group fitness is good for the social aspect. And two, that a lot of group fitness is kind of aimlessly running around like a blue ass fly, as we say in London.

So I agree with both of the things you said. One, that group fitness is good for the social aspect. And two, that a lot of group fitness is kind of aimlessly running around like a blue ass fly, as we say in London.

A blue ass fly. I've never heard that. I don't know where it comes from. It's a stupid phrase. It works. For you, maybe, not for me.

A blue ass fly. I've never heard that. I don't know where it comes from. It's a stupid phrase. It works. For you, maybe, not for me.

And I do. Yeah, so there is a lot of aimless running around in group fitness. So the thing I would point out is that the... The form of the group fitness is flexible, but the idea of group fitness, meaning people coming together for a shared goal is awesome. And the form of it can be awesome and it can be crap.

And I do. Yeah, so there is a lot of aimless running around in group fitness. So the thing I would point out is that the... The form of the group fitness is flexible, but the idea of group fitness, meaning people coming together for a shared goal is awesome. And the form of it can be awesome and it can be crap.

Coffee and chill, right?

Coffee and chill, right?

yeah for sure i mean there's definitely downsides um to group fitness because a lot of times you're losing quality for quantity so unless you have a very skilled instructor or you're tailoring the workout very with great expertise you get something very general so you get like I don't actually know about Barry's in Orange Theory. I don't know much, to be honest. You don't?

yeah for sure i mean there's definitely downsides um to group fitness because a lot of times you're losing quality for quantity so unless you have a very skilled instructor or you're tailoring the workout very with great expertise you get something very general so you get like I don't actually know about Barry's in Orange Theory. I don't know much, to be honest. You don't?

No, I'm not that interested in it, to be honest. I basically have the same feeling you have. Not to hate on him. It works for a lot of people and a lot of people love it, especially Barry's. I know people who love Barry's. So it works for them, but I don't know specifically what they do. I'll tell you what they do.

No, I'm not that interested in it, to be honest. I basically have the same feeling you have. Not to hate on him. It works for a lot of people and a lot of people love it, especially Barry's. I know people who love Barry's. So it works for them, but I don't know specifically what they do. I'll tell you what they do.

Counterproductive. It's very, very common. I've heard that many times. To do with cortisol and stress, essentially. Yes.

Counterproductive. It's very, very common. I've heard that many times. To do with cortisol and stress, essentially. Yes.

P.E. class, I call it. Do you have P.E. class here? Is that what you call it? Yeah, you mean like phys ed? Phys ed, yeah.

P.E. class, I call it. Do you have P.E. class here? Is that what you call it? Yeah, you mean like phys ed? Phys ed, yeah.

But this is what I'm saying is like it's kind of untargeted. There's a little bit of a sadist kind of vibe to a lot of these group fitness. Again, don't know the specifics on that. Okay, that's true. It's like just punish yourself and then the coach, like people get off on it. It's this weird S&M thing, you know, where the coach is like, can I swear?

But this is what I'm saying is like it's kind of untargeted. There's a little bit of a sadist kind of vibe to a lot of these group fitness. Again, don't know the specifics on that. Okay, that's true. It's like just punish yourself and then the coach, like people get off on it. It's this weird S&M thing, you know, where the coach is like, can I swear?

You know, like, whatever. I'm not going to now, but like you, whatever it is, basically the vibe, whether they say it with their words or not, is that you're like some lowly, you know.

You know, like, whatever. I'm not going to now, but like you, whatever it is, basically the vibe, whether they say it with their words or not, is that you're like some lowly, you know.

You're not good enough. And then people get off on it. Like I've seen it. There's a, there's a, there's a, I know a lot of people go to a specific gym who really that's the core foundational culture. Really? This S&M thing where the guy. Where is it? I'm not going to name names. Tell me. I'm not going to name names. Is it in LA?

You're not good enough. And then people get off on it. Like I've seen it. There's a, there's a, there's a, I know a lot of people go to a specific gym who really that's the core foundational culture. Really? This S&M thing where the guy. Where is it? I'm not going to name names. Tell me. I'm not going to name names. Is it in LA?

It's in LA. It's kind of West Hollywood-ish. And they get off on like... They get off on it. And there's a cult around it.

It's in LA. It's kind of West Hollywood-ish. And they get off on like... They get off on it. And there's a cult around it.

Yeah. And they love it. And to be fair, it works while they're doing it. But long term, it doesn't. Tell me.

Yeah. And they love it. And to be fair, it works while they're doing it. But long term, it doesn't. Tell me.

I'll tell you after. Why? I want to know. I want everyone to know.

I'll tell you after. Why? I want to know. I want everyone to know.

It's not my style. It's not my style. But...

It's not my style. It's not my style. But...

anyway either way what happens is in those classes it's very untargeted it's very not a long-term thing as you were saying right it's not a healthy long-term approach it works while you're doing it as soon as those people stop they're usually fatter than they were just unhealthier than they were they've lost muscle a lot of women lose periods and i'm talking about maybe the the extreme cases because it goes with this it's basically like a form of sort of

anyway either way what happens is in those classes it's very untargeted it's very not a long-term thing as you were saying right it's not a healthy long-term approach it works while you're doing it as soon as those people stop they're usually fatter than they were just unhealthier than they were they've lost muscle a lot of women lose periods and i'm talking about maybe the the extreme cases because it goes with this it's basically like a form of sort of

like anorexia, bulimia, it's all very negative. You know what I'm saying?

like anorexia, bulimia, it's all very negative. You know what I'm saying?

But that's huge though, Jen. Like that is, you separate the positive and the negative and you take, you don't want to throw the baby out with the bathwater. Yeah. With Barry's I've heard that the big thing, the big draw of Barry's is not the actual workout itself. It's the culture around it.

But that's huge though, Jen. Like that is, you separate the positive and the negative and you take, you don't want to throw the baby out with the bathwater. Yeah. With Barry's I've heard that the big thing, the big draw of Barry's is not the actual workout itself. It's the culture around it.

So it's like the hot people and it's like a scene and it's a sexy place and everyone feels sexy when they go there or they see other sexy people and they want to be, you know what I'm saying? So that is the emotional driver for people in everything.

So it's like the hot people and it's like a scene and it's a sexy place and everyone feels sexy when they go there or they see other sexy people and they want to be, you know what I'm saying? So that is the emotional driver for people in everything.

in everything and fitness is absolutely number one for that so it's motivating people to work out so it is positive but I think it's important to separate what people actually what's productive about it and what is not productive it could be improved for sure

in everything and fitness is absolutely number one for that so it's motivating people to work out so it is positive but I think it's important to separate what people actually what's productive about it and what is not productive it could be improved for sure

I've heard of it again. I don't explain what it is.

I've heard of it again. I don't explain what it is.

I want to do it.

I want to do it.

I was going to mention CrossFit and like the thing with CrossFit was people get, it's community, but people would get injured a lot. Oh, well, that's what I'm saying.

I was going to mention CrossFit and like the thing with CrossFit was people get, it's community, but people would get injured a lot. Oh, well, that's what I'm saying.

Olympic lifting.

Olympic lifting.

Especially in a class of 10, 20 people in a state of fatigue too. So that was the biggest thing is you need to be really dialed in for something like that. And because it's a group fitness atmosphere, this is the downside of it. People would be tired. There'd be 20 people in a class. The coach doesn't know who's doing what. And it's a recipe for disaster.

Especially in a class of 10, 20 people in a state of fatigue too. So that was the biggest thing is you need to be really dialed in for something like that. And because it's a group fitness atmosphere, this is the downside of it. People would be tired. There'd be 20 people in a class. The coach doesn't know who's doing what. And it's a recipe for disaster.

So it sounds like High Rocks has kind of fixed that issue.

So it sounds like High Rocks has kind of fixed that issue.

you never want to trade your long-term health for like a short-term aesthetic like you don't want to it's not a good in you know trade like yeah you get skinnier or whatever in the short term but then you've lost all your muscle or you just like really burn out or you haven't your metabolism is down on the floor long term it's gonna come back and it's gonna come back with a vengeance so i think people need to

you never want to trade your long-term health for like a short-term aesthetic like you don't want to it's not a good in you know trade like yeah you get skinnier or whatever in the short term but then you've lost all your muscle or you just like really burn out or you haven't your metabolism is down on the floor long term it's gonna come back and it's gonna come back with a vengeance so i think people need to

maintain their like long-term vision of what they want for their body and don't sacrifice the short term for the long term.

maintain their like long-term vision of what they want for their body and don't sacrifice the short term for the long term.

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It's the reason why it's so studied and the reason why it's so pumped by the sports industry, by the, you know, the muscle building industry, by even the medical industry is because in nature, we would have it just as part of our, our body, our makeup, because we would eat A healthy society would eat a good amount of red meat. We would hunt and eat a good amount of red meat.

It's the reason why it's so studied and the reason why it's so pumped by the sports industry, by the, you know, the muscle building industry, by even the medical industry is because in nature, we would have it just as part of our, our body, our makeup, because we would eat A healthy society would eat a good amount of red meat. We would hunt and eat a good amount of red meat.

We would be getting in all the creatine we need naturally. But in modern society where we're divorced from red meat, where most people maybe eat red meat once a week or something like that, then we need to supplement. The only reason why we need to supplement is because we're divorced from our natural habitat and our natural diet. That's the only reason.

We would be getting in all the creatine we need naturally. But in modern society where we're divorced from red meat, where most people maybe eat red meat once a week or something like that, then we need to supplement. The only reason why we need to supplement is because we're divorced from our natural habitat and our natural diet. That's the only reason.

And the reason why creatine is good for your hair and good for your muscles and good for your pregnancy and good for your, when you're old and you have Parkinson's or whatever, right? I'm throwing things out. The reason why it's good for everything is because it's such a fundamental part of how we are. It's a building block of everything.

And the reason why creatine is good for your hair and good for your muscles and good for your pregnancy and good for your, when you're old and you have Parkinson's or whatever, right? I'm throwing things out. The reason why it's good for everything is because it's such a fundamental part of how we are. It's a building block of everything.

So it's going to have all these benefits aside from just muscle gain, right? Muscle gain is interesting, but it's just one thing.

So it's going to have all these benefits aside from just muscle gain, right? Muscle gain is interesting, but it's just one thing.

Cause for a woman, nothing, but yes. How much should someone say?

Cause for a woman, nothing, but yes. How much should someone say?

Okay.

Okay.

Five grams for men, three grams for women.

Five grams for men, three grams for women.

Exactly what I'm saying.

Exactly what I'm saying.

Yeah. You should have done this before. I've got to go build my gym right now. I need some Magic Mind.

Yeah. You should have done this before. I've got to go build my gym right now. I need some Magic Mind.

Ashwagandha. There's a lot of good stuff in there. A lot of great stuff. Rhodiola. I love Rhodiola. Huge fan of Rhodiola.

Ashwagandha. There's a lot of good stuff in there. A lot of great stuff. Rhodiola. I love Rhodiola. Huge fan of Rhodiola.

Really?

Really?

I've been, I've been actually, um, I've been on the rhodiola tip for a while. I love it. I've always loved it.

I've been, I've been actually, um, I've been on the rhodiola tip for a while. I love it. I've always loved it.

I think initially it was for stress adaptation, but now I take it as a tea just because I like it. But it's got a just general, I think, yeah, mostly it's like stress adaptation, but it's got this general feeling. Like you feel it pretty quick. Like I can drink a tea of rhodiola and I can feel it within half an hour.

I think initially it was for stress adaptation, but now I take it as a tea just because I like it. But it's got a just general, I think, yeah, mostly it's like stress adaptation, but it's got this general feeling. Like you feel it pretty quick. Like I can drink a tea of rhodiola and I can feel it within half an hour.

Like, I just sort of, I know you don't like this word, but balance. Like, I just feel like I'm good.

Like, I just sort of, I know you don't like this word, but balance. Like, I just feel like I'm good.

You're not going to do it?

You're not going to do it?

Down the hatch. Are we live, by the way, or are we just rambling?

Down the hatch. Are we live, by the way, or are we just rambling?

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Okay, so I'm going to give a very nuanced and boring answer. No, it's not boring, but it's nuanced.

Okay, so I'm going to give a very nuanced and boring answer. No, it's not boring, but it's nuanced.

There's a pro and con. The pro is I think creatine is the most scientifically studied supplement ever. Genuinely, I think. You can fact check me on this, but I'm pretty sure. It is.

There's a pro and con. The pro is I think creatine is the most scientifically studied supplement ever. Genuinely, I think. You can fact check me on this, but I'm pretty sure. It is.

By far. I think... of all time and it's not just studied by companies trying to sell it to the masses. This is very deep medical practice. If a woman needs to get the birth weight of their baby up, if they're dangerously low birth weight, they'll take creatine. I know people take it for all sorts of brain

By far. I think... of all time and it's not just studied by companies trying to sell it to the masses. This is very deep medical practice. If a woman needs to get the birth weight of their baby up, if they're dangerously low birth weight, they'll take creatine. I know people take it for all sorts of brain

Protein used to be like that, but now we realize protein is for everyone and everyone needs more protein, essentially.

Protein used to be like that, but now we realize protein is for everyone and everyone needs more protein, essentially.

So a couple of things. As I was saying before, it's the most scientifically studied supplement ever. And it was studied not for like aesthetic, muscular fitness goals. It was studied for medical things. So this is safe and they wouldn't give it to women if it made you unhealthy. So that's the first thing you need to say about it.

So a couple of things. As I was saying before, it's the most scientifically studied supplement ever. And it was studied not for like aesthetic, muscular fitness goals. It was studied for medical things. So this is safe and they wouldn't give it to women if it made you unhealthy. So that's the first thing you need to say about it.

Second, it won't make you fat because it doesn't touch your fat cells. It only touches... It only pulls in water, like hydrogen ions, water into your lean body mass because fat is hydro, whatever, hydrophobic. It doesn't like water. Fat and water separate. So basically it's a water-based supplement. It pulls water into your cells, primarily your muscle cells. So it gives volume to your muscle.

Second, it won't make you fat because it doesn't touch your fat cells. It only touches... It only pulls in water, like hydrogen ions, water into your lean body mass because fat is hydro, whatever, hydrophobic. It doesn't like water. Fat and water separate. So basically it's a water-based supplement. It pulls water into your cells, primarily your muscle cells. So it gives volume to your muscle.

if you're worried that you're going to swell up so you definitely won't get fat that's that's just something you don't have to worry about at all if you think you're going to swell up and start looking like arnold schwarzenegger realize like that type of muscularity is near impossible for a natural woman women who look overly muscular have either been training for 10 15 20 years or they're taking steroids which a lot of women do so a lot of these fitness people you see at the gym or on social media the females are taking low doses of

if you're worried that you're going to swell up so you definitely won't get fat that's that's just something you don't have to worry about at all if you think you're going to swell up and start looking like arnold schwarzenegger realize like that type of muscularity is near impossible for a natural woman women who look overly muscular have either been training for 10 15 20 years or they're taking steroids which a lot of women do so a lot of these fitness people you see at the gym or on social media the females are taking low doses of

male androgenic anabolic steroids. So you have to realize the smoke and mirrors there. Creatine is a supplement that will not touch your fat cells at all. So you don't have to worry about getting fat at all. It will volumize your lean body mass, which is basically every part of your body that's not fat-based. So that's everything. So it's your eyeballs, it's your muscles, it's your bones.

male androgenic anabolic steroids. So you have to realize the smoke and mirrors there. Creatine is a supplement that will not touch your fat cells at all. So you don't have to worry about getting fat at all. It will volumize your lean body mass, which is basically every part of your body that's not fat-based. So that's everything. So it's your eyeballs, it's your muscles, it's your bones.

In your lean body.

In your lean body.

So the second point going on from that, the fact that it's safe and it won't make you fat is it's also natural. So creatine is a natural part of red meat, which is what we are. We are red meat. It's part of every muscle fiber in nature. Okay. So it would be abundant. It's abundant in the meats that we eat, or at least red meat. It's naturally there. And it's part of every...

So the second point going on from that, the fact that it's safe and it won't make you fat is it's also natural. So creatine is a natural part of red meat, which is what we are. We are red meat. It's part of every muscle fiber in nature. Okay. So it would be abundant. It's abundant in the meats that we eat, or at least red meat. It's naturally there. And it's part of every...

All the energy systems of our body use creatine. Again, I haven't done any of this AMP stuff for years, so I'm probably butchering it, but it's essentially part of a natural fundamental part of our energy system. So the idea that you shouldn't have creatine in your body is another complete myth. You need creatine in your body. We just have it naturally.

All the energy systems of our body use creatine. Again, I haven't done any of this AMP stuff for years, so I'm probably butchering it, but it's essentially part of a natural fundamental part of our energy system. So the idea that you shouldn't have creatine in your body is another complete myth. You need creatine in your body. We just have it naturally.

That's the other side. So I said this was nuanced. These are the positives for creatine.

That's the other side. So I said this was nuanced. These are the positives for creatine.

So the positives for creatine, let me sum it up.

So the positives for creatine, let me sum it up.

So positives of creatine are it's natural, it's safe, it boosts your muscle capability and it boosts your health. The negatives for taking creatine is you don't need to. All you need to do is eat red meat and eat enough red meat. In nature, we've evolved to eat red meat. I'm sure you've had plant-based people on here. Don't care. We evolved to eat red meat. That's how we've evolved.

So positives of creatine are it's natural, it's safe, it boosts your muscle capability and it boosts your health. The negatives for taking creatine is you don't need to. All you need to do is eat red meat and eat enough red meat. In nature, we've evolved to eat red meat. I'm sure you've had plant-based people on here. Don't care. We evolved to eat red meat. That's how we've evolved.

It's part of our evolution. You can look at our digestive tract. You can look at our teeth. You can look at our brains. You can look at the size of our colon. We can look at anything. You can look at archaeological records. It all adds up.

It's part of our evolution. You can look at our digestive tract. You can look at our teeth. You can look at our brains. You can look at the size of our colon. We can look at anything. You can look at archaeological records. It all adds up.

Anyone who tells you that we are not meat-based, meaning a sizable amount of our calories in nature should come and we would thrive on a meat-based diet is talking out of their hearts.

Anyone who tells you that we are not meat-based, meaning a sizable amount of our calories in nature should come and we would thrive on a meat-based diet is talking out of their hearts.

I would imagine that creatine, along with a whole host of other supplements, would need to be taken by a plant-based person because it's an unnatural diet, essentially. I'm not saying you shouldn't do it. I'm just saying it's an unnatural diet and it's not the optimal diet.

I would imagine that creatine, along with a whole host of other supplements, would need to be taken by a plant-based person because it's an unnatural diet, essentially. I'm not saying you shouldn't do it. I'm just saying it's an unnatural diet and it's not the optimal diet.

It's a little bit woke though, isn't it? You might get cancelled. It's part of the whole woke thing.

It's a little bit woke though, isn't it? You might get cancelled. It's part of the whole woke thing.

It's politicized. It's socialized.

It's politicized. It's socialized.

I have best friends who are plant-based.

I have best friends who are plant-based.

Does he take supplements?

Does he take supplements?

He is probably really, really healthy, really dedicated and has all his ducks in a row and would probably be 5% or 10% better if he had me.

He is probably really, really healthy, really dedicated and has all his ducks in a row and would probably be 5% or 10% better if he had me.

difference in their health in their energy the way they feel when they incorporated animal protein back into their diet when they were especially women which is another thing we talk about women women if anything need i wouldn't say they need more but we know like women lose their period i know i know girls like i know i know a lot they lose their periods when they go plant-based you even have to take iron supplements what what is the most what is the most

difference in their health in their energy the way they feel when they incorporated animal protein back into their diet when they were especially women which is another thing we talk about women women if anything need i wouldn't say they need more but we know like women lose their period i know i know girls like i know i know a lot they lose their periods when they go plant-based you even have to take iron supplements what what is the most what is the most

You have to do like math, yeah.

You have to do like math, yeah.

Yeah, if you don't know, then just like stick to just moderation and you don't have to take my word for it. Just eat at least a little bit of animal protein.

Yeah, if you don't know, then just like stick to just moderation and you don't have to take my word for it. Just eat at least a little bit of animal protein.

Gray or great?

Gray or great?

Okay, gray. Very different than gray.

Okay, gray. Very different than gray.

Some like hippie thing.

Some like hippie thing.

I did 10 parts on my podcast about this, about that whole, just the myth.

I did 10 parts on my podcast about this, about that whole, just the myth.

Doesn't everyone do that? Literally everyone do that. First of all, that's what I'm supposed to do. Second of all, no, genuinely, I've just done this to death.

Doesn't everyone do that? Literally everyone do that. First of all, that's what I'm supposed to do. Second of all, no, genuinely, I've just done this to death.

Like I've done 10 parts on this and I explain and I kind of meander away from the actual kind of lie itself that meat is bad for you and you kind of trace the roots of it and you start to see like big pharma and the big food companies and like people are benefiting from this. And again, we were talking about business issues.

Like I've done 10 parts on this and I explain and I kind of meander away from the actual kind of lie itself that meat is bad for you and you kind of trace the roots of it and you start to see like big pharma and the big food companies and like people are benefiting from this. And again, we were talking about business issues.

we're talking about like capitalism business and like, there are people profiting off of this idea that you shouldn't eat meat, you know? And there are also people profiting off the idea that you should be sick. Like being sick is very profitable in America, hugely profitable.

we're talking about like capitalism business and like, there are people profiting off of this idea that you shouldn't eat meat, you know? And there are also people profiting off the idea that you should be sick. Like being sick is very profitable in America, hugely profitable.

Yeah, like neither of us are going... I'm not going to make a cent off of people eating meat.

Yeah, like neither of us are going... I'm not going to make a cent off of people eating meat.

It's very difficult. Like you need, I mean, I reckon if you're on steroids, you probably don't need as much. So my theory, and this is like maybe wild and whatever, but like I think a lot of the plant-based athletes were probably either built their muscle when they weren't plant-based or So for example, Arnold Schwarzenegger, like Arnold Schwarzenegger spent 70 years eating three steaks a day.

It's very difficult. Like you need, I mean, I reckon if you're on steroids, you probably don't need as much. So my theory, and this is like maybe wild and whatever, but like I think a lot of the plant-based athletes were probably either built their muscle when they weren't plant-based or So for example, Arnold Schwarzenegger, like Arnold Schwarzenegger spent 70 years eating three steaks a day.

And then he goes, oh, you know, you don't need so much meat. Like you can go meatless Mondays or whatever. That's a horrible impression.

And then he goes, oh, you know, you don't need so much meat. Like you can go meatless Mondays or whatever. That's a horrible impression.

But it's like, okay, well, it's all well and good. You being 70 years old and having dominated like Hollywood and the bodybuilding industry, eating three steaks a day and being on steroids. But now you're, now you can say, go meatless Mondays. Like, It's too late. If you did that in your prime, fine.

But it's like, okay, well, it's all well and good. You being 70 years old and having dominated like Hollywood and the bodybuilding industry, eating three steaks a day and being on steroids. But now you're, now you can say, go meatless Mondays. Like, It's too late. If you did that in your prime, fine.

So I think one is they either built the muscle with the meat and then once they were just maintaining it, they went plant-based and so that was okay. Two is they're on steroids.

So I think one is they either built the muscle with the meat and then once they were just maintaining it, they went plant-based and so that was okay. Two is they're on steroids.

I actually do meatless days.

I actually do meatless days.

Yes.

Yes.

Aging, mental health, yeah.

Aging, mental health, yeah.

It's an organ.

It's an organ.

The leading cause of death is lack of muscle, right? In elderly.

The leading cause of death is lack of muscle, right? In elderly.

Yeah.

Yeah.

just to pull it back to creatine. But I think where, what I was going to say about the downside of taking creatine is you don't actually need it. It's, it's present in red meat.

just to pull it back to creatine. But I think where, what I was going to say about the downside of taking creatine is you don't actually need it. It's, it's present in red meat.

Yes.

Yes.

Yes.

Yes.

Did you do your five and I did my five?

Did you do your five and I did my five?

I've got one more. Sleep.

I've got one more. Sleep.

That's a bloody good one, yeah.

That's a bloody good one, yeah.

That's a fact.

That's a fact.

You go. Okay. One, walk.

You go. Okay. One, walk.

As much, at least half an hour a day, 10,000 steps a day.

As much, at least half an hour a day, 10,000 steps a day.

Again, it really depends where someone's coming from, but I'm going to make this super general. Okay, okay. You should just make sure that that's part of your plan. It's walking, like actively, not just relying like, oh yeah, I'm sure I'm walking, like track it. Right. Two protein, at least one gram per pound of body weight protein. Mm-hmm.

Again, it really depends where someone's coming from, but I'm going to make this super general. Okay, okay. You should just make sure that that's part of your plan. It's walking, like actively, not just relying like, oh yeah, I'm sure I'm walking, like track it. Right. Two protein, at least one gram per pound of body weight protein. Mm-hmm.

Three, I would say water, but that actually technically can, you won't lose, you'll lose fat, but you won't necessarily lose weight because you'll increase your water. So I'm not going to say water.

Three, I would say water, but that actually technically can, you won't lose, you'll lose fat, but you won't necessarily lose weight because you'll increase your water. So I'm not going to say water.

It's always the basics.

It's always the basics.

Three, focus on nutrient density. Every single thing you put in your mouth has to have like purpose and it has to be like feeding your body and your system. And part of that is like colors, making sure you're very, very colorful. Shit, I'm running out. I'm at three. Sleep, I'm going to steal yours. I wouldn't have said it unless you did. So I have the advantage of going second.

Three, focus on nutrient density. Every single thing you put in your mouth has to have like purpose and it has to be like feeding your body and your system. And part of that is like colors, making sure you're very, very colorful. Shit, I'm running out. I'm at three. Sleep, I'm going to steal yours. I wouldn't have said it unless you did. So I have the advantage of going second.

Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. 100% I'm stealing that one.

Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. 100% I'm stealing that one.

Yeah, okay.

Yeah, okay.

I think the last one is a kind of cross between two opposites. One is intermittent fasting and the other is making sure you have breakfast. I think you should have Get your calories in early in the day and have, so basically they used to say, and I used to disagree with it, but I've come back around. Breakfast like a king, lunch like a prince, dinner like a pauper.

I think the last one is a kind of cross between two opposites. One is intermittent fasting and the other is making sure you have breakfast. I think you should have Get your calories in early in the day and have, so basically they used to say, and I used to disagree with it, but I've come back around. Breakfast like a king, lunch like a prince, dinner like a pauper.

Shift your calories to earlier in the day, not necessarily skipping dinner. And again, where... Where you place those meals is up to you, but like don't tail end all your calories for the end of the day. Try to get them in earlier in the day and go to bed like light, like not, not like stuffed.

Shift your calories to earlier in the day, not necessarily skipping dinner. And again, where... Where you place those meals is up to you, but like don't tail end all your calories for the end of the day. Try to get them in earlier in the day and go to bed like light, like not, not like stuffed.

I love bone broth.

I love bone broth.

I literally made it yesterday. Really? I love it. I always have some that I've made. There's always jars of it. My wife hates me, but there's always jars of it around my house. I have it every single day.

I literally made it yesterday. Really? I love it. I always have some that I've made. There's always jars of it. My wife hates me, but there's always jars of it around my house. I have it every single day.

That's kind of the nutrient density thing you spoke about.

That's kind of the nutrient density thing you spoke about.

And that's for like almost no calories. That's for very few calories bone broth. There's not a lot of calories in it, but it's so nutrient dense that it really fills you up for like, for free, basically.

And that's for like almost no calories. That's for very few calories bone broth. There's not a lot of calories in it, but it's so nutrient dense that it really fills you up for like, for free, basically.

Sounds like a good name for a supplement line actually.

Sounds like a good name for a supplement line actually.

It's like the opposite of bread. You know, like opposite, like bread is so low nutrient. The reason why people get fat off bread is it's so low in nutrients. Yeah, exactly. It doesn't fill you up. It doesn't satiate you at all. And it's very high in calories with very low in nutrients, depending on the type of bread is going to be less or more.

It's like the opposite of bread. You know, like opposite, like bread is so low nutrient. The reason why people get fat off bread is it's so low in nutrients. Yeah, exactly. It doesn't fill you up. It doesn't satiate you at all. And it's very high in calories with very low in nutrients, depending on the type of bread is going to be less or more.

But generally speaking, bread is going to be very low in nutrients, very high in calories, and is not going to fill you up at all.

But generally speaking, bread is going to be very low in nutrients, very high in calories, and is not going to fill you up at all.

Okay, bonus.

Okay, bonus.

Yeah, it's a chain reaction.

Yeah, it's a chain reaction.

Yeah, agreed.

Yeah, agreed.

I'd love to see people's, their top five. I know. What are your top five? Yeah.

I'd love to see people's, their top five. I know. What are your top five? Yeah.

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telling the body, no, no, no, no, no, we're not having this thing X, Y, Z. And then eventually the body, because it has to, rebels and forces the brain, the person to binge because it's been suppressed for so long. So it actually makes sense. The body is saying, I don't know when I'm going to be able to have these nutrients in this pizza. You said nine pizzas, right?

telling the body, no, no, no, no, no, we're not having this thing X, Y, Z. And then eventually the body, because it has to, rebels and forces the brain, the person to binge because it's been suppressed for so long. So it actually makes sense. The body is saying, I don't know when I'm going to be able to have these nutrients in this pizza. You said nine pizzas, right?

I don't know when you're going to let me have pizza, so I'm going to stuff away nine of them. So you get this extreme swing to swing and the way to combat that, the actual solution to that problem is to find the middle ground where you actually just eat what you want and you start to eat intuitively. And I think the biggest specific nutrient that people are missing is saturated fat.

I don't know when you're going to let me have pizza, so I'm going to stuff away nine of them. So you get this extreme swing to swing and the way to combat that, the actual solution to that problem is to find the middle ground where you actually just eat what you want and you start to eat intuitively. And I think the biggest specific nutrient that people are missing is saturated fat.

So the things we seem to love are the things that we're told we don't like. So we're told we're not supposed to eat. So we're told no salt, right? Maybe that was more when we were younger. Yeah.

So the things we seem to love are the things that we're told we don't like. So we're told we're not supposed to eat. So we're told no salt, right? Maybe that was more when we were younger. Yeah.

But people used to say no sugar and no saturated fat. Those are the three things that people need to eat more of. They need salt. That's why I have people supplement with salt in my gym. They need sugar. That's why I tell people to eat fruit. I'm sorry, I'm flipping everyone off. This is to the people who say don't eat fat and sugar and salt. And then the last thing is saturated fat.

But people used to say no sugar and no saturated fat. Those are the three things that people need to eat more of. They need salt. That's why I have people supplement with salt in my gym. They need sugar. That's why I tell people to eat fruit. I'm sorry, I'm flipping everyone off. This is to the people who say don't eat fat and sugar and salt. And then the last thing is saturated fat.

What's saturated fat? Meat, eggs. If you are plant-based, then you can get it from coconut and even cocoa butter. But those rich fats that we fucking love, cheese, yeah, eggs, butter, meat.

What's saturated fat? Meat, eggs. If you are plant-based, then you can get it from coconut and even cocoa butter. But those rich fats that we fucking love, cheese, yeah, eggs, butter, meat.

That can go wrong. A cheat day, a cheat meal can go horribly wrong. It could also be wisdom in it too. It really depends. Talking about it is hard because it depends how it's done. It depends what the quality is behind that. It depends what the meaning is to the person for that cheat day or that cheat meal, especially psychologically, but also physically.

That can go wrong. A cheat day, a cheat meal can go horribly wrong. It could also be wisdom in it too. It really depends. Talking about it is hard because it depends how it's done. It depends what the quality is behind that. It depends what the meaning is to the person for that cheat day or that cheat meal, especially psychologically, but also physically.

If you feel like you're miserable six days a week, then your cheat meal isn't going to work. Your cheat day isn't going to work.

If you feel like you're miserable six days a week, then your cheat meal isn't going to work. Your cheat day isn't going to work.

That's not enough framework.

That's not enough framework.

No one loses weight on 8,000 calories a day.

No one loses weight on 8,000 calories a day.

From Michael Phelps, maybe.

From Michael Phelps, maybe.

We're two yappers.

We're two yappers.

Also, what often happens is if you burn 500 calories, sometimes what will happen is for the rest of the day, your body will just shut down 499 calories of your metabolism. So you will stand less, you'll move less, you'll breathe shallower. Your digestive system will shut down. Your body will counteract that.

Also, what often happens is if you burn 500 calories, sometimes what will happen is for the rest of the day, your body will just shut down 499 calories of your metabolism. So you will stand less, you'll move less, you'll breathe shallower. Your digestive system will shut down. Your body will counteract that.

So that's not necessarily like trying to exercise your calories off is not necessarily the best way to do it.

So that's not necessarily like trying to exercise your calories off is not necessarily the best way to do it.

And now I can eat this much.

And now I can eat this much.

And it's also not just, it's not just the calories. It's like that, what you said about the minimally processed foods, the reason it works is because that's natural foods that your body can understand that. When you're eating these hyperpalatable foods that are processed, that basically hijack your brain and your taste system, that's when things go awry.

And it's also not just, it's not just the calories. It's like that, what you said about the minimally processed foods, the reason it works is because that's natural foods that your body can understand that. When you're eating these hyperpalatable foods that are processed, that basically hijack your brain and your taste system, that's when things go awry.

It's very hard to be in perfect shape or the best shape you can be in without cooking all your food. Yeah. If you're eating out three times a day, it's very hard.

It's very hard to be in perfect shape or the best shape you can be in without cooking all your food. Yeah. If you're eating out three times a day, it's very hard.

It can be done, but it's hard.

It can be done, but it's hard.

Get the swings out.

Get the swings out.

Or you want to talk shit about your friend.

Or you want to talk shit about your friend.

Or you want to talk shit about your friend.

Or you want to talk shit about your friend.

You know, like plant-based, meat-based, you know, that type of thing. If you just want to send something as a... Don't listen to him.

You know, like plant-based, meat-based, you know, that type of thing. If you just want to send something as a... Don't listen to him.

It's 100% true.

It's 100% true.

There's always a swing set in this.

There's always a swing set in this.

You're talking about like trendiness and stuff.

You're talking about like trendiness and stuff.

Rucking. You know what a rucking is?

Rucking. You know what a rucking is?

Or your baby like I do.

Or your baby like I do.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Very specific.

Very specific.

Bodybuilders have been doing that since the 60s.

Bodybuilders have been doing that since the 60s.

It's got a name.

It's got a name.

Fantastic.

Fantastic.

Well, you want to make it slightly harder every time.

Well, you want to make it slightly harder every time.

Over time though.

Over time though.

In the long term, you should be seeing at least some gradual increase.

In the long term, you should be seeing at least some gradual increase.

So you use it as a warm-up?

So you use it as a warm-up?

You said how long do you do it for? It sounds like it's kind of ritualistic for you. It's a ritual. It's now associative. It's now like, okay, your body is basically getting the message. Okay, now we're working out.

You said how long do you do it for? It sounds like it's kind of ritualistic for you. It's a ritual. It's now associative. It's now like, okay, your body is basically getting the message. Okay, now we're working out.

Leave all your other stresses and concerns at the door. It's workout time.

Leave all your other stresses and concerns at the door. It's workout time.

A lot of that I think is also social conditioning. I think it's that we think of weightlifting as a young man's game. So elderly shouldn't be doing it, which is the complete opposite of the truth. And women shouldn't be doing it.

A lot of that I think is also social conditioning. I think it's that we think of weightlifting as a young man's game. So elderly shouldn't be doing it, which is the complete opposite of the truth. And women shouldn't be doing it.

And I think even though logically, I think we're starting to understand that that's not true, that women should be lifting weights, that older people should be lifting weights. There's so much social conditioning that I think women feel like it's not feminine. So they do the feminine thing. And those things are in our society, these silly, yeah, these silly, not to say they're silly.

And I think even though logically, I think we're starting to understand that that's not true, that women should be lifting weights, that older people should be lifting weights. There's so much social conditioning that I think women feel like it's not feminine. So they do the feminine thing. And those things are in our society, these silly, yeah, these silly, not to say they're silly.

I actually, again, I have a whole podcast on this, but like you should be doing fun, dynamic, novel things because your body loves that. It's play. What you're doing is you're playing and you're mixing workout with play.

I actually, again, I have a whole podcast on this, but like you should be doing fun, dynamic, novel things because your body loves that. It's play. What you're doing is you're playing and you're mixing workout with play.

Do you have an RX? Do you have a prescription to people?

Do you have an RX? Do you have a prescription to people?

But how many times a week?

But how many times a week?

For some reason, people really seem to. I think most people that I know seem to be able to do the workout part. There's rare people where it's the opposite. But most people seem to be able to do the workout part, but they just cannot get the nutrition part together. And I don't know why.

For some reason, people really seem to. I think most people that I know seem to be able to do the workout part. There's rare people where it's the opposite. But most people seem to be able to do the workout part, but they just cannot get the nutrition part together. And I don't know why.

I mean, think about it though, it is literally your primary drive in life. Like a child's first drive, after they breathe, is to eat. That's what they want more than anything else. So it's so deep in our DNA, the drive for food, that if you're not a foodie on some level, if you don't love food, there's something wrong with you.

I mean, think about it though, it is literally your primary drive in life. Like a child's first drive, after they breathe, is to eat. That's what they want more than anything else. So it's so deep in our DNA, the drive for food, that if you're not a foodie on some level, if you don't love food, there's something wrong with you.

So do you want to hear my theory on this?

So do you want to hear my theory on this?

So do you want to hear my theory on this?

So do you want to hear my theory on this?

And I've done this on the podcast too, but... My theory is that we're all like that. And that's not an individual. I think people often personalize eating problems. They think it's a personal issue. And I think to some extent, almost all of Western, particularly American society has the same problem you have.

And I've done this on the podcast too, but... My theory is that we're all like that. And that's not an individual. I think people often personalize eating problems. They think it's a personal issue. And I think to some extent, almost all of Western, particularly American society has the same problem you have.

And so they feel like they're obsessed with food and they're always craving things and they're going to have to fight their desires. But my theory on it, and it's been tested, this isn't just me pulling it out of the sky, is that you're not obsessed with food.

And so they feel like they're obsessed with food and they're always craving things and they're going to have to fight their desires. But my theory on it, and it's been tested, this isn't just me pulling it out of the sky, is that you're not obsessed with food.

you're not and i'm not talking about you specifically people aren't so so much that they're obsessed with food they have an unhealthy obsession it's that their body is asking for nutrients and so the cravings are actually adaptive and they're telling you i want something and the less you give it into it the longer that goes and the more sort of extreme so that's where binging comes from binging comes from this suppression this artificial suppression from the head down

you're not and i'm not talking about you specifically people aren't so so much that they're obsessed with food they have an unhealthy obsession it's that their body is asking for nutrients and so the cravings are actually adaptive and they're telling you i want something and the less you give it into it the longer that goes and the more sort of extreme so that's where binging comes from binging comes from this suppression this artificial suppression from the head down

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I think your gut even eats certain types of fiber. It literally like pulls energy from the fiber itself. So your gut needs the fiber just to like function well.

I think your gut even eats certain types of fiber. It literally like pulls energy from the fiber itself. So your gut needs the fiber just to like function well.

Also in nature, again, it goes back to like my nature kind of binding philosophy for nutrition. Like in nature, fiber is everywhere. You know, every plant has some type of fiber in nature. It's only when we live in our modern world that we have the ability to mechanically get rid of fiber that we're not getting enough.

Also in nature, again, it goes back to like my nature kind of binding philosophy for nutrition. Like in nature, fiber is everywhere. You know, every plant has some type of fiber in nature. It's only when we live in our modern world that we have the ability to mechanically get rid of fiber that we're not getting enough.

So if you were to eat in a more natural way, like as we were built to eat, you should be getting more fiber.

So if you were to eat in a more natural way, like as we were built to eat, you should be getting more fiber.

Yeah, I think you don't want to deprive yourself.

Yeah, I think you don't want to deprive yourself.

Yeah, especially with regard to like protein. I think people need to eat more actual food to avoid snacks. And that's why I always go back to the jungle analogy. Like if you stick to actual food, like how you would eat in the jungle. If you stick to actual food, you'll find yourself satiated a lot more. but like more with more consistency and a lot faster.

Yeah, especially with regard to like protein. I think people need to eat more actual food to avoid snacks. And that's why I always go back to the jungle analogy. Like if you stick to actual food, like how you would eat in the jungle. If you stick to actual food, you'll find yourself satiated a lot more. but like more with more consistency and a lot faster.

And the whole process is a lot more enjoyable. When you try to like have these like clever little tricks and eat these kind of made in a lab foods that everyone seems to be eating now, some cool thing that's being pushed on TikTok. What is it?

And the whole process is a lot more enjoyable. When you try to like have these like clever little tricks and eat these kind of made in a lab foods that everyone seems to be eating now, some cool thing that's being pushed on TikTok. What is it?

I just, all of these things, I can't even, I'm so divorced from that stuff that I don't even know the name of it, but I see like, and I'm not going to name names because I don't know, I don't know who's been on this podcast before, but like, All these things, like, you know what I mean? Like things made in a lab versus things that are natural.

I just, all of these things, I can't even, I'm so divorced from that stuff that I don't even know the name of it, but I see like, and I'm not going to name names because I don't know, I don't know who's been on this podcast before, but like, All these things, like, you know what I mean? Like things made in a lab versus things that are natural.

Thank you for having me.

Thank you for having me.

Nobody I know who's in really good shape and no high level athlete consumes more than 20% of their diet in these kind of edge man-made foods. every, especially athletes, every high performing athlete. And they'll have probably two, three, four foods that they religiously, like they almost worship these foods because they think they have these like magical powers to make them function better.

Nobody I know who's in really good shape and no high level athlete consumes more than 20% of their diet in these kind of edge man-made foods. every, especially athletes, every high performing athlete. And they'll have probably two, three, four foods that they religiously, like they almost worship these foods because they think they have these like magical powers to make them function better.

And it's because they kind of do. Like every athlete I know has like, whenever I look at what they eat, they always talk about two or three or four foods that they absolutely love. And they're usually, actually, this is one more thing I would say is nutrient density. Mm-hmm.

And it's because they kind of do. Like every athlete I know has like, whenever I look at what they eat, they always talk about two or three or four foods that they absolutely love. And they're usually, actually, this is one more thing I would say is nutrient density. Mm-hmm.

In Westwood Boulevard.

In Westwood Boulevard.

Like focus, people don't focus enough on like nutrient density, not just macro, but micro, like the hidden invisible nutrients inside food. A lot of this has to do with color. So like colorful foods.

Like focus, people don't focus enough on like nutrient density, not just macro, but micro, like the hidden invisible nutrients inside food. A lot of this has to do with color. So like colorful foods.

You've got a lot of things going on.

You've got a lot of things going on.

To someone else it's boring or to you it's boring?

To someone else it's boring or to you it's boring?

Literally rainbow, like in terms of colors.

Literally rainbow, like in terms of colors.

colorful food for sure into your diet and again this goes back to how we're built yeah why do like candy companies and just food companies in general so they just recently banned red whatever thank god red dye red dye number 40 but they're just they're gonna

colorful food for sure into your diet and again this goes back to how we're built yeah why do like candy companies and just food companies in general so they just recently banned red whatever thank god red dye red dye number 40 but they're just they're gonna

switch it to red dye number 39 or whatever so i don't buy any of this shit to be honest i'm not that excited about we're moving in the right direction but like i'm not trusting the food companies and the food scientists totally to be my like health czar all of a sudden but what i would say is why do they force these dyes into food because it tricks your brain into thinking it's nutrients and your brain wants nutrients especially for kids but adults too

switch it to red dye number 39 or whatever so i don't buy any of this shit to be honest i'm not that excited about we're moving in the right direction but like i'm not trusting the food companies and the food scientists totally to be my like health czar all of a sudden but what i would say is why do they force these dyes into food because it tricks your brain into thinking it's nutrients and your brain wants nutrients especially for kids but adults too

The reason why they are, why are they, why do you have to add color to these made in a lab foods? Because otherwise your brain will be like, that's bullshit. I don't want that. That has no nutrients in it. But with the color, all of a sudden your brain's like, Oh, give me some of that. Right.

The reason why they are, why are they, why do you have to add color to these made in a lab foods? Because otherwise your brain will be like, that's bullshit. I don't want that. That has no nutrients in it. But with the color, all of a sudden your brain's like, Oh, give me some of that. Right.

The garlic sauce, like the white dips.

The garlic sauce, like the white dips.

My wife loves that stuff.

My wife loves that stuff.

I think I know where this story is going to go.

I think I know where this story is going to go.

Saffron's a really- Saffron in your food?

Saffron's a really- Saffron in your food?

And I'm paying, like the chicken skewers- You can get Spanish saffron, it's cheaper, but yeah.

And I'm paying, like the chicken skewers- You can get Spanish saffron, it's cheaper, but yeah.

Is that in the chicken or the sauce?

Is that in the chicken or the sauce?

Even the olive oil, look.

Even the olive oil, look.

I'm going to say no. And the reason I'm going to say no is because, look, you have to get out of this idea. By you, I mean everyone, people listening. And I tell my clients, I tell my family, I tell everyone, like, you can't be so naive. Their job, the restaurant's job, food company's job is not to make you healthy. Their job is to make them profit. And I understand that. Like I'm a businessman.

I'm going to say no. And the reason I'm going to say no is because, look, you have to get out of this idea. By you, I mean everyone, people listening. And I tell my clients, I tell my family, I tell everyone, like, you can't be so naive. Their job, the restaurant's job, food company's job is not to make you healthy. Their job is to make them profit. And I understand that. Like I'm a businessman.

I am not expecting them to make me healthy. Okay. It's not going to happen. They are going to make as much profit for themselves as possible. So provided they're not overtly poisoning you and you don't never go back or give a bad review on Yelp or whatever, it's not going to hurt their bottom line. What they want to do is lower their expenses, meaning using cheap ingredients.

I am not expecting them to make me healthy. Okay. It's not going to happen. They are going to make as much profit for themselves as possible. So provided they're not overtly poisoning you and you don't never go back or give a bad review on Yelp or whatever, it's not going to hurt their bottom line. What they want to do is lower their expenses, meaning using cheap ingredients.

So when they say olive oil, Sure, it's olive oil. Really? It's like pure extra virgin olive oil? No. Chances are it's a blend of olive oil and canola oil. I walked past a very famous chain and I'm not going to say who. Who? Can I say who?

So when they say olive oil, Sure, it's olive oil. Really? It's like pure extra virgin olive oil? No. Chances are it's a blend of olive oil and canola oil. I walked past a very famous chain and I'm not going to say who. Who? Can I say who?

I'm going to crush people's soul.

I'm going to crush people's soul.

It's California Chicken Cafe.

It's California Chicken Cafe.

I'm going to ruin everyone's day. So I walked past. And by the way, I love California Chicken Cafe. And from time to time, I still get it. But they were my neighbors. So I had a gym literally right next to them. And I knew everyone. Tell me, tell me.

I'm going to ruin everyone's day. So I walked past. And by the way, I love California Chicken Cafe. And from time to time, I still get it. But they were my neighbors. So I had a gym literally right next to them. And I knew everyone. Tell me, tell me.

I didn't want to know this, but I had already known. I walked past and I saw them loading the crates and it said olive oil. So they're loading their olive oil. And I looked and it's not even in fine print, but these are in big industrial crates that they get. And it said 75% canola, 25% olive oil. So it was an olive oil blend. And it's three quarters olive. Canola oil, which is seed oil.

I didn't want to know this, but I had already known. I walked past and I saw them loading the crates and it said olive oil. So they're loading their olive oil. And I looked and it's not even in fine print, but these are in big industrial crates that they get. And it said 75% canola, 25% olive oil. So it was an olive oil blend. And it's three quarters olive. Canola oil, which is seed oil.

Now, some people find this controversial. It's not. Take it from me. You shouldn't be eating seed oil, okay? Seed oil is the number one poison in the Western food supply. And it's the reason why Westerners are so fat and everyone else is not, is because of seed oil. Straight up and down.

Now, some people find this controversial. It's not. Take it from me. You shouldn't be eating seed oil, okay? Seed oil is the number one poison in the Western food supply. And it's the reason why Westerners are so fat and everyone else is not, is because of seed oil. Straight up and down.

Why do I think that seed oil is so bad? Yeah. Because it literally triggers the inflammatory process that leads to fat storage.

Why do I think that seed oil is so bad? Yeah. Because it literally triggers the inflammatory process that leads to fat storage.

They're all doing it.

They're all doing it.

One of my life philosophies is I refuse to be a victim in any way. If I feel any sense of victimhood in myself, I extinguish it immediately. And I see that with a lot of people around food now. Oh, they're trying to poison us. Oh, big, big farmer. No, you're right. Big food. And they're all in it. Like, all right, whatever. Of course they are. It's a fucking business.

One of my life philosophies is I refuse to be a victim in any way. If I feel any sense of victimhood in myself, I extinguish it immediately. And I see that with a lot of people around food now. Oh, they're trying to poison us. Oh, big, big farmer. No, you're right. Big food. And they're all in it. Like, all right, whatever. Of course they are. It's a fucking business.

Like, honestly, it's a... No, you're right. Excuse my French. It's a fucking business. Grow up. Grow up. This is not their job. It's your job. You feed your kids what they should be feeding. Go and get an apple. They're not poisoning the apples. I mean, I know they put wax and stuff on it, but go wash the apple. Give your kid an apple.

Like, honestly, it's a... No, you're right. Excuse my French. It's a fucking business. Grow up. Grow up. This is not their job. It's your job. You feed your kids what they should be feeding. Go and get an apple. They're not poisoning the apples. I mean, I know they put wax and stuff on it, but go wash the apple. Give your kid an apple.

Stop buying things in a package and expecting just because there's a picture of a child with a rainbow over the top that it's healthy. Of course it's fucking nice. It's a picture.

Stop buying things in a package and expecting just because there's a picture of a child with a rainbow over the top that it's healthy. Of course it's fucking nice. It's a picture.

I mean, it depends on what the law is.

I mean, it depends on what the law is.

Look, if I were the president, which I'll never be because I'm an immigrant. I'm not allowed to be president. But if I was president, I would pass a law stating, like saying that things like the olive oil thing would be illegal. If you say it's olive oil, it has to be 100% pure olive oil. But...

Look, if I were the president, which I'll never be because I'm an immigrant. I'm not allowed to be president. But if I was president, I would pass a law stating, like saying that things like the olive oil thing would be illegal. If you say it's olive oil, it has to be 100% pure olive oil. But...

It's a small percentage of olive oil, yeah.

It's a small percentage of olive oil, yeah.

It should at least be 51%. It's no mission. It will be years. I think we should start moving in that process. So I'm happy that we banned red, whatever the hell it is. But these companies are going to be as low as they can legally get away with, or at least that makes sense for their business. That's what you have to expect.

It should at least be 51%. It's no mission. It will be years. I think we should start moving in that process. So I'm happy that we banned red, whatever the hell it is. But these companies are going to be as low as they can legally get away with, or at least that makes sense for their business. That's what you have to expect.

You have to expect almost nothing from these companies because their job is to make profit. And we should change the law so that the low bar that we have, the extremely low bar, especially in America, in England, where I'm from, artificial food coloring has been banned for decades.

You have to expect almost nothing from these companies because their job is to make profit. And we should change the law so that the low bar that we have, the extremely low bar, especially in America, in England, where I'm from, artificial food coloring has been banned for decades.

The bar is on the floor. The FDA, what I will say is the FDA, I'm pretty sure, I think it's well known that they're a very, corrupt organization. So I would probably, instead of going after each individual food company, I would look more at the structure of the FDA because they, their job is overtly not to make profit. Their job is to protect and serve and benefit the people.

The bar is on the floor. The FDA, what I will say is the FDA, I'm pretty sure, I think it's well known that they're a very, corrupt organization. So I would probably, instead of going after each individual food company, I would look more at the structure of the FDA because they, their job is overtly not to make profit. Their job is to protect and serve and benefit the people.

And so I don't think they're doing their job. So if I was to go after anyone, I wouldn't go after California Chicken Cafe because I don't think what they're doing is even illegal. I think I would go, A, it's more practical to go to the top and try to change the laws from the top. And B, they're saying- They're trying to do that.

And so I don't think they're doing their job. So if I was to go after anyone, I wouldn't go after California Chicken Cafe because I don't think what they're doing is even illegal. I think I would go, A, it's more practical to go to the top and try to change the laws from the top. And B, they're saying- They're trying to do that.

I don't blame McDonald's. I blame FDA.

I don't blame McDonald's. I blame FDA.

protein is like the number one.

protein is like the number one.

Again, I think that one goes down, I talk about this a lot, but it goes down to evolution. Like we've evolved to eat protein. So our guts are like protein seeking machines, you know? And so when they register the amino acids, like that umami flavor of protein, it's just extremely satiating because that's literally just how we're built.

Again, I think that one goes down, I talk about this a lot, but it goes down to evolution. Like we've evolved to eat protein. So our guts are like protein seeking machines, you know? And so when they register the amino acids, like that umami flavor of protein, it's just extremely satiating because that's literally just how we're built.

It's how we're designed. It's how we're built.

It's how we're designed. It's how we're built.

You need fats, carbs, and proteins. At some point, you're going to need to check all those boxes.

You need fats, carbs, and proteins. At some point, you're going to need to check all those boxes.

technically i think the only one that is not essential like from a scientific perspective is carbs because you technically don't need carbs to survive because your body will create carbs out of protein or fat like gluconeogenesis and stuff but in practice everyone needs it and also if you're an athlete and you're working out you also need it for performance your performance is going to suffer

technically i think the only one that is not essential like from a scientific perspective is carbs because you technically don't need carbs to survive because your body will create carbs out of protein or fat like gluconeogenesis and stuff but in practice everyone needs it and also if you're an athlete and you're working out you also need it for performance your performance is going to suffer

tremendously your mental health suffers tremendously without carbs because it boosts serotonin and stuff you feel better so practically speaking you definitely need some formal carbs some formal fat some formal protein and trying to like shortcut or like cheat the system by just getting rid of one It's a nice idea.

tremendously your mental health suffers tremendously without carbs because it boosts serotonin and stuff you feel better so practically speaking you definitely need some formal carbs some formal fat some formal protein and trying to like shortcut or like cheat the system by just getting rid of one It's a nice idea.

And a lot of people, especially with carbs, because you lose water weight, they'll lose 10 pounds in a week. And they're like, Oh, I'm a winner. Yeah, but you lost water and maybe some muscle. And actually, you're less healthy than you were when you were 10 pounds heavier. So totally agree with you're cheating yourself really.

And a lot of people, especially with carbs, because you lose water weight, they'll lose 10 pounds in a week. And they're like, Oh, I'm a winner. Yeah, but you lost water and maybe some muscle. And actually, you're less healthy than you were when you were 10 pounds heavier. So totally agree with you're cheating yourself really.

Don't want to lose fat and lose muscle at the same time. You only want to lose fat.

Don't want to lose fat and lose muscle at the same time. You only want to lose fat.

But your muscles are made of water. So you're kind of losing muscle in a way.

But your muscles are made of water. So you're kind of losing muscle in a way.

Not animal protein. Like fake, possibly protein shakes. I doubt it even with protein shakes if they're animal-based, meaning dairy protein. I doubt it. But like natural, basically natural sources of protein, not a chance. Not a chance. I don't believe it for a split second.

Not animal protein. Like fake, possibly protein shakes. I doubt it even with protein shakes if they're animal-based, meaning dairy protein. I doubt it. But like natural, basically natural sources of protein, not a chance. Not a chance. I don't believe it for a split second.

No.

No.

I would advise that.

I would advise that.

Yeah. If you isolate too much, again, I think protein shakes have their place and I will have them from time to time and I will tell clients to have them.

Yeah. If you isolate too much, again, I think protein shakes have their place and I will have them from time to time and I will tell clients to have them.

Especially if they're learning to get their protein up and they're trying to get their gut to adjust to a high protein diet, which in the early phases, protein is fantastic. Protein shakes have their place, okay?

Especially if they're learning to get their protein up and they're trying to get their gut to adjust to a high protein diet, which in the early phases, protein is fantastic. Protein shakes have their place, okay?

Yeah, I'm literally going to have this right after this podcast.

Yeah, I'm literally going to have this right after this podcast.

Because that's like they have more natural sweeteners and stuff.

Because that's like they have more natural sweeteners and stuff.

Convenience factor.

Convenience factor.

Which we've spoken about in other podcasts. Convenience is an underrated facet of fitness that people need to factor into what they're doing. Things have to work functionally and they have to be convenient for you.

Which we've spoken about in other podcasts. Convenience is an underrated facet of fitness that people need to factor into what they're doing. Things have to work functionally and they have to be convenient for you.

So I think not focusing on food quality and also not enjoy. I think the biggest one now is like not enjoying their food, like not factoring that in. And again, this kind of flies in the face of what most people are told. But my theory is

So I think not focusing on food quality and also not enjoy. I think the biggest one now is like not enjoying their food, like not factoring that in. And again, this kind of flies in the face of what most people are told. But my theory is

i'm really fleshing this out so this might sound a little bit jumbled but like i think your brain has a certain let's say pleasure point principle where it wants to get a certain amount of pleasure from food and if it doesn't get that amount of pleasure from food it will kind of force you to binge later on so so essentially what's happening is that your brain is seeking pleasure from food and if it doesn't register that pleasure from food

i'm really fleshing this out so this might sound a little bit jumbled but like i think your brain has a certain let's say pleasure point principle where it wants to get a certain amount of pleasure from food and if it doesn't get that amount of pleasure from food it will kind of force you to binge later on so so essentially what's happening is that your brain is seeking pleasure from food and if it doesn't register that pleasure from food

it will keep asking for more and more food. So by only eating things that people don't enjoy or not consciously enjoying the food that they're eating, they're setting themselves up for failure because their body and their brain is kind of storing a little craving for later. It's like, wait a minute, I didn't actually enjoy that. You better pay me back later.

it will keep asking for more and more food. So by only eating things that people don't enjoy or not consciously enjoying the food that they're eating, they're setting themselves up for failure because their body and their brain is kind of storing a little craving for later. It's like, wait a minute, I didn't actually enjoy that. You better pay me back later.

I think it's definitely better to have a more balanced approach. But then ultimately, the truth of it is that you probably should have given yourself the grapes in the first place. And then maybe you would have only had four or five pounds as opposed to nine.

I think it's definitely better to have a more balanced approach. But then ultimately, the truth of it is that you probably should have given yourself the grapes in the first place. And then maybe you would have only had four or five pounds as opposed to nine.

And that's why things like if it fits your macros and stuff, I don't think people bother with that anymore, but that used to be a thing. If it fits your macros, meaning just as long as you're eating your macros, it doesn't matter. The problem with that is if you're eating Twinkies as your carb source. Mm-hmm.

And that's why things like if it fits your macros and stuff, I don't think people bother with that anymore, but that used to be a thing. If it fits your macros, meaning just as long as you're eating your macros, it doesn't matter. The problem with that is if you're eating Twinkies as your carb source. Mm-hmm.

you're going to go, you're not going to be able to stick to 200 grams of carbs a day or whatever it is because, you know, you're just going to rifle through those so fast because they provide no actual nutrition. So your body is still craving nutrients and therefore you're going to overeat those foods. So calories in, calories out is completely non-growthful. That's how it works.

you're going to go, you're not going to be able to stick to 200 grams of carbs a day or whatever it is because, you know, you're just going to rifle through those so fast because they provide no actual nutrition. So your body is still craving nutrients and therefore you're going to overeat those foods. So calories in, calories out is completely non-growthful. That's how it works.

Like you cannot, that's just a mathematical law of the universe. If your calories in more than your calories out, you will store weight. Whether that's muscle or fat is, is, potentially negotiable depending on what you're eating.

Like you cannot, that's just a mathematical law of the universe. If your calories in more than your calories out, you will store weight. Whether that's muscle or fat is, is, potentially negotiable depending on what you're eating.

No, that's just a fact. It's like gravity. That's just how it works.

No, that's just a fact. It's like gravity. That's just how it works.

There's no point arguing about it.

There's no point arguing about it.

I think where the conversation becomes more interesting and nuanced is where you start to talk about, you start to break that down and talk about what does calories in mean versus what does calories out mean. I mean, first of all, you would have to absorb the calories in.

I think where the conversation becomes more interesting and nuanced is where you start to talk about, you start to break that down and talk about what does calories in mean versus what does calories out mean. I mean, first of all, you would have to absorb the calories in.

So if your body, for some reason, decides it doesn't want to absorb those calories, if your gut says, you know what, I'm not absorbing these calories, I'm going straight out, then technically that's not calories in. It went into your mouth, but it didn't go into your body. So that's not something that happens all the time. But again, it...

So if your body, for some reason, decides it doesn't want to absorb those calories, if your gut says, you know what, I'm not absorbing these calories, I'm going straight out, then technically that's not calories in. It went into your mouth, but it didn't go into your body. So that's not something that happens all the time. But again, it...

It's like, where does that calories in versus calories out equation become relevant? What does calories out mean? Does it only mean walking? No. Your calories out could be growing your hair. It could be your reproductive system. It could be your digestive system. It could be your immunity.

It's like, where does that calories in versus calories out equation become relevant? What does calories out mean? Does it only mean walking? No. Your calories out could be growing your hair. It could be your reproductive system. It could be your digestive system. It could be your immunity.

So it's so insanely complex, that thing, that to try to reduce it to a mathematical formula that we can predict... is on the flip side to it is you're not really going to be able to do that long term. It's too complex, but you have to be aware that that is how it works.

So it's so insanely complex, that thing, that to try to reduce it to a mathematical formula that we can predict... is on the flip side to it is you're not really going to be able to do that long term. It's too complex, but you have to be aware that that is how it works.

So can I tell you something?

So can I tell you something?

I actually don't believe in calorie counting.

I actually don't believe in calorie counting.

I think the biggest, the reason why that works is because most people are just not aware. They don't even know. They have no idea. There's no awareness. They didn't even realize that they ate this thing. They wouldn't remember it. And this has been studied, by the way, like people are so bad at knowing how much and what they're eating.

I think the biggest, the reason why that works is because most people are just not aware. They don't even know. They have no idea. There's no awareness. They didn't even realize that they ate this thing. They wouldn't remember it. And this has been studied, by the way, like people are so bad at knowing how much and what they're eating.

That's my recap. Think about food quality. Oh, always.

That's my recap. Think about food quality. Oh, always.

You should always think about the food quality. I mean, I don't know where you're traveling specifically.

You should always think about the food quality. I mean, I don't know where you're traveling specifically.

And the whole other thing, but America is definitely on the lower end of food quality. So there's a lot of countries you can go to where... everything's fresh, there's very low additives. And so you can partake of the local cuisine a lot, a lot more guilt free than in the kind of more Western world. It really just depends where you're going.

And the whole other thing, but America is definitely on the lower end of food quality. So there's a lot of countries you can go to where... everything's fresh, there's very low additives. And so you can partake of the local cuisine a lot, a lot more guilt free than in the kind of more Western world. It really just depends where you're going.

But I think by focusing on food quality, you know, go to go to grocery stores, go to farmers markets.

But I think by focusing on food quality, you know, go to go to grocery stores, go to farmers markets.

Don't get a cab if you can walk.

Don't get a cab if you can walk.

New York is the best.

New York is the best.

New York is the best.

New York is the best.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And that's not just the walking, that's the sunshine, that's the vitamin D. I mean, we've got like ash falling on us now, but generally 99.9% of the time being outside and breathing the fresh air and seeing the trees and having the sun on your skin, apart from the actual physical walking is going to do so much, not just for your mental health, but your physical health too, that people really sleep on that stuff.

And that's not just the walking, that's the sunshine, that's the vitamin D. I mean, we've got like ash falling on us now, but generally 99.9% of the time being outside and breathing the fresh air and seeing the trees and having the sun on your skin, apart from the actual physical walking is going to do so much, not just for your mental health, but your physical health too, that people really sleep on that stuff.

I'm exactly the same. Literally, we're buying a house right now and non-negotiable, and this might sound crazy to some people, is can I walk to my place of business, my gym, from my house?

I'm exactly the same. Literally, we're buying a house right now and non-negotiable, and this might sound crazy to some people, is can I walk to my place of business, my gym, from my house?

Yeah. Yeah. Airplane food is like kind of the exact opposite of my philosophy on nutrition, which is you want to eat as naturally as possible.

Yeah. Yeah. Airplane food is like kind of the exact opposite of my philosophy on nutrition, which is you want to eat as naturally as possible.

You want to eat as if you are in the jungle and, or the rainforest or the forest or whatever. But airplane food is literally to a T, like packaged, you know, scientifically like made in a lab, you know, that's what they- But why is that?

You want to eat as if you are in the jungle and, or the rainforest or the forest or whatever. But airplane food is literally to a T, like packaged, you know, scientifically like made in a lab, you know, that's what they- But why is that?

It's a business. The airplanes are businesses and they need to make things as cheaply as possible that last as long as possible.

It's a business. The airplanes are businesses and they need to make things as cheaply as possible that last as long as possible.