Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
Hello, everyone. Hello. Hi. Hello. Hi. Here we all are in the studio. Yes, indeed. And today we've got something a little different. Ooh, but Kaylee, I don't like different things. Well, Jonathan, you might just have to give it a chance because sometimes trying new things can be scary, but... Rewarding. Yeah. Okay, well, here comes the choo-choo train of listening. What do we got here?
Recently, you were a guest on a show called Wild Card. Do you remember that? Of course I remember. How can I forget? I was interviewed by Rachel Martin.
How did it feel, Jonathan, to be in the guest seat?
It felt, I didn't like it. It was a tremendous loss of control, I have to say. It was like the spider had become the fly or something. But, you know, here's the incredible, this is nuts. It doesn't even make sense to me. I'm just looking at their past episodes, okay, of Wild Card. You know who was on two weeks ago? Who? Someone that's so famous, they're known by one name. Cher. Adele.
It wasn't Cher or Adele. Actually, dare I say, maybe someone more famous.
Obama.
I'm going to say as famous as Obama, maybe more famous.
What?
All right, I'll just tell you. Oprah. She interviewed Oprah. Last week she interviewed Melinda Gates.
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Chapter 2: What unique experiences does Jonathan Goldstein share about being a guest on Wild Card?
Oprah has more money than me. Let's see who else has more money than me. I would say almost every guest is probably richer than you. You know, honestly, so I'm on her website right now on the wildcard website and I'm scrolling and I'm like, I'm looking like Melinda Gates, Oprah Winfrey, Harrison Ford. I mean, crazy. And then I saw my name and I got nervous. I thought, like, that's a mistake.
Do you think they had someone fall through that week?
Well, it's funny. OK, so I did ask her that. Like, why am I on the show, basically? And I thought, you know, the answer would be something like, oh, what are you talking about?
Chapter 3: How does Jonathan feel about the loss of control in being interviewed?
Like, of course you, you know. But she was honest. She was like, well, you know how it is. Like sometimes you do like a biggie and then sometimes you just do a small one or something like that. I don't know. I think she was more complimentary than that.
Yeah.
I don't know if she called me a small one.
It sounds like she just wanted to talk to you, which is really nice.
It is. Who wouldn't? Thank you. That is very nice. You know, me and Stevie usually are in on, like, the... You know, we're producing the conversations you have. This is one that we got to come to just as listeners. We just heard the edited version at the end, and I really enjoyed it. I felt like it covered a lot of territory beyond just the typical, like... How did you come up with the show?
Like, I felt like you guys kind of went deep in a really interesting way. I got an interesting text from my mother-in-law after she had listened to it. She said that she had never had anybody express something about life and death that she had always felt. Whoa. Yeah. That's cool. Yeah. And after I got the text, I told my wife, I said, Emily, you married your mother. Congratulations. Yeah.
So we're going to listen to that episode. I think listeners will really enjoy it. Yeah, we did. And if you don't, we'll send you a check returning your full purchase price. If you don't, try the Oprah episode. You know, maybe you'll like that more.
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Chapter 4: What insights does Jonathan provide about his podcast, Heavyweight?
You know, if I had my druthers, it was by myself. And that just felt like my place in the dark, looking up at this big screen, feeling like a baby being held by somebody, you know? Maybe that's a part of it. I don't know. Yeah.
What was the extraordinary part of that experience?
I think this particular theater, because it's mid-century, I had the experience last Christmas of going to see It's a Wonderful Life there. And I found it to be a very emotional experience. Like, it's just, I mean, it's just a room experience. But it, I don't know, all of this stuff sounds very corny.
I mean, my father used to watch these black and white movies and refer to it as like a time machine. And it is kind of like that. There is this feeling of the past kind of erasing and you're kind of existing in all times at once. Beyond that, it's probably just pretty banal. It just...
Yeah, there's just something extraordinary about, in this day and age, being able to kind of like turn your phone off and shut out the world for a couple of hours.
I mean, thank God. Hold on. There's one sound on here I need to make sure goes away.
Is it my voice? You figured out the one thing that's dragging down this podcast?
Okay, three more cards.
I'll take one this time.
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Chapter 5: How does Jonathan describe his emotional connection to movie theaters?
We've moved from the yellow cards to the blue cards, so I can only imagine that this is getting more intense.
More intense? Okay. One, two, three.
One.
What's a sound that instantly puts you at ease? That's a person who lives in sounds.
I think a laugh maybe.
Anyone in particular or all of them, all the laughing.
And this is coming from someone who does not, unfortunately for me, like have an easy laugh. Being in the business that I am in, it would be a nice signal to somebody of like, hey, I'm enjoying you. But I think, yeah, all kinds of different laughs. It lets me feel like the person isn't taking me too seriously. Yeah. I feel dangerous when I'm being taken too seriously.
You feel dangerous or the situation feels dangerous?
I kind of feel like I shouldn't be taken too seriously, and I feel like my old friends don't take me that seriously. Like my friend Jackie, who opens the show, who I phone, who has a very endearing, distinct, kind of insane laugh. I like hearing it. It makes me feel like...
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