Chapter 1: What is the significance of the upcoming Four Pines event?
Punters and Dribblers, your last opportunity to get some tickets to Lander's Pocket. That's right. Which is Thursday night, this Thursday, 14th of May, where we are having a Four Pines little Longest Drive golf event. Yeah, we are. Listen, good numbers out the gate. The punter and the dribbler turning up en masse. So it's going to be a terrific vibe. Yep.
Lander's Pocket, 6pm, Thursday, this Thursday. This Thursday. As a rev up, a warm up for what is the biggest weekend of the rugby league year. Tickets are in the bio, Tom. Yep. And in the show notes. Yep. Move quickly because time is running out. See you. Because it's very soon. Four points. You are listening to the Outlaw Sport Podcast.
What's up punters and dribblers, welcome back to the Us World Podcast. Coming to you mere moments away from the Ivan Cleary press conference. So there may be a period where we just stop and come back. You won't even notice. You won't know through the power and the magic of editing. But it is great to be back inside your, not ocular cavity, is that eyes? Ears, ear holes.
I don't know what the... Ocular is eye socket. Yeah, it's ocular. Thought so. Yeah, I don't know what your ear is. Your ear canal. Ear canal. The Suez Canal. Panama Canal. Panama Canal. Root Canal. Canelo Alvarez. Yeah, that's not getting topped. There's no way that one's getting topped.
We come to you in a brave new world, and that's something you might think, wow, is that the world post-Ivan Cleary at Penrith? No, it's not. It's post-Heard of Him's first race and first loss, essentially. Well, he came fourth. Listen, we got a limo out to Bathurst yesterday. It was fucking terrific. It was a great day.
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Chapter 2: What are the reactions to Ivan Cleary's press conference?
I loved every second of it. Except for the seconds of the race. Except for the seconds of the race. Listen, I didn't love every second of it. That's such a fear. That's a lie. That's such a lie. We went out there. We were loving it. We were dressed well with Cody, with Kyle. Tobler was sick, slash hungover, couldn't come. Tobler pulled out last minute because he was hungover.
he had a big night on the wet moors the night before Monday night very punchy the kid needs help but I'm not going to dare his dirty laundry here but we're having a great time we're doing interviews in the back of the limo dude that was the funnest bit was we got onto the SEN tab like TV channel they're like can you do a video call we're like we're in the back of a limousine they're like that's fantastic
And you say all the right things, you know, you pump your boy up. You dare to dream. You dare of greatness. You dare of... Nice coffee? No. But yes. Not an ad. Not an ad. Whatever. Not an ad. You dare to dream of the possibilities of coming back in the limo being 0-1. Yeah. No losses. No, 1-0. 1-0, sorry. 1-0. We are 0-1. We are 0-1.
Then you see a truck stop and you go, God damn, we pull in for cigarettes and cheeseburgers and schnitzel rolls. Yes, you do. Of course you do. Do you get to the track fashionably late? Of course you do. There was maybe, what, 17 people at the track? Max. Max. It was a cold day. Shout out to the dribblers who came out. There was maybe five. One, two, three, four.
Chris Hemsworth definitely came, and that may have been his dad.
Chris and maybe his dad. There was another dribbler whose name I didn't get.
A couple of his names I forget.
And then there was two gentlemen in the stands who were seriously well-dressed when we did the meet and greet, and they were there, but they weren't as well-dressed, which wasn't a good omen, really, if you want to want to pack omens. A boy seemed okay, potentially a little edgy. He paraded relatively well. He was the pig of the yard.
He was.
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Chapter 3: How do the hosts reflect on Ivan Cleary's coaching legacy?
Maccabi Deva, fourth. Prince of Penzance, ninth. Very elegant, seventh. Just, you know, Winx lost races. You know what I mean? Like the fact that Winx and Lap lost races, it's like calm down. Well, not just races, their first race. Yeah. And I think that's what's worth keeping in mind here and providing context to the situation is that, yeah, it wasn't our day.
And there's reasons for that that we'll get into. But what you need to understand off the rip, off the jump, is that the greatest horses of all time lost their first race. That's just a fact. That's just a fact of life. Now, did he settle well? No, he didn't. How did he travel around the hairpin turn like pure shit? Did he get thrown out into the middle of the track? Yes, he did.
But he finished well. But he finished well. He wants more distance. The fact he went so wide and basically won is enough to be excited about. Now, Ivan coming to sit down with Peter Wallace, don't know why he's there, maybe taking over. We're going to go listen now.
Yeah, I'm just ā Basically going to announce that I'm going to be stepping down from NRL coaching at the end of season 2027. Wow. It's a decision that obviously I haven't taken lightly, but I've thought about for quite a long time. This is not a time for thank yous or reflections. I still have 18 months in the saddle, so to speak, and I honestly woke up this morning
Thinking about the Dragons and how we're going to try and beat them this week.
Yeah, it'll be tough.
We've actually picked a really strong team. I know we're going to have our hands full this week. Yeah, sure you will. Shut up. Shut up, Ivan. Come on.
You can pick your fucking D-side, man. Fuck it up. Wake up thinking about the Dragons.
No one woke up thinking about the Dragons, respectfully. Our brilliant chairman, Peter.
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Chapter 4: What are the potential impacts of Cleary's departure on the team?
Might and power. Might and power won the cup. Yeah, good horse. Good bit of horse. Oi, good bit of horse. Oh, I'm going to piss. Okay. I am. Tobler, you're not laughing at all. Tobler. So like during that whole segment, like that whole thing, like Cody was laughing.
There was something I giggled at.
Cody laughed. I'm a couple of laughs away from a coughing fit, so I'm trying to hold it in. Okay, so because Cody was laughing.
Yeah, I giggled.
And I just wanted to make sure it was still funny or is it not?
You're still funny. You're still funny. Do you think we're funny? No.
He's hung over again. But do you think we're funny or not? I do. I always have. I think we need a bit more from you behind the spine. A laugh track? We need a bit more, dude. Well, Cody's going to have to laugh twice as hard.
No, Cody's laughing good enough, man.
No, Cody's absolutely fine.
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Chapter 5: What happened during the game that left a player on the bench?
He was on the bench. Didn't play a minute. Didn't play a minute. Isn't that fucked up? Who was that against?
Penrith. Penrith. What was the score in that game? I can't recall. 22-20 from memory. Was it that close?
Well, I'm wondering why it didn't get on. 26-20 to the storm. It was obviously not at any point processional. No, I guess it was close, so I'm just flicking through some. Like, yeah, fucking that close though. That's monster. That's crazy stuff. That's crazy stuff.
Do you reckon there's anything, any correlation between the fact that Manley basically beat Penrith the other day and then two weeks later Ivan quits? Like he sees what Foran's doing. I think if you're Ivan and you've been there and you've done it and he's obviously a learned man, Tom. Learned.
He knows a lot about history and he understands that, you know, if you live long enough, you'll see yourself become the villain. Yeah. Right? Like he's aware of that. And then when you see such purity... Right? Such generational lifetime purity coming through, starting to rise up through the system. You look at that and you go, I don't want a piece of that. I'm going to take my pram.
I'm going to ride off into the sunset. Get onto that piano. Shit into a bag with my wife. You know what I mean? Make sweet love. That's me now. I don't want anything to do with that guy Kieran Thorne because that guy Kieran Thorne is the fucking truth. It's a young man's game, coach. It's a young man's game. Even though old men seem to coach. It's becoming a young man's game.
When rookie coach slash assist slash interim coach slash soon-to-be head coach, but at the time interim coach, Kieran Foreman wins the comp with Manley, who would come in dead last, and gurus like gurus say Manley's the worst team of all time. What do you do with that? You just go, it's a young man's game, and I'm not up for it, and I'm going to fuck it off.
But it seems to be becoming a bit young man-y. Yeah. Willie Peters isn't very old. Peter Wallace. Peter Wallace isn't old.
Cameron Foran's not old. Cam Serraldo.
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Chapter 6: What are the implications of Ivan Cleary's resignation?
Peyton looks old, but that's a body hair issue. Well, it is a body hair issue. That's a body hair thing. Once upon a time, you had to be 95 to coach. Andrew Webster, pretty young. Yep. Feels like it. You know, if Bellamy... Trent Robinson would have been young when he came onto the scene. He was young when he came onto the scene.
If Bellamy were to sort of pack it up relatively soon, like that would be another old dog gone.
Jason Riles, is he young?
He'd be young. He's got a big dick, I know that. That's about all. Dean Young's young. Dean Young is young, but looks old. But he's young. But he's young. He'd be 40-something, wouldn't he? 42. 42? All those coaches listed are between 41 and like 49. So they're all below 50. Yeah. So we are right, as usual, about it being a young man's game. Yeah. Especially with the demands on the coaches. Yeah.
Yeah. Nothing out of Blobler. No, Blobler's fucking just absolutely dead, mate. Absolutely dead. Are you alright back there, Tobler? Mate, I'm good. Just a tougher crowd today than usual. Are you still feeling sick? A little bit. Are you feeling better than yesterday? A bit better than yesterday, yeah. Woke up this morning and felt fucked, though. But it's always worse in the morning.
That doesn't sound like you're feeling better then, does it? That happens during the day. That's probably just a, that might be a false dawn, mate. False, yeah, could be. Yeah, I mean, false dawn on that, mate. Yeah. Fucking waking up in the middle of the night in a coughing fit is just so shit. We were so glad. Did you prop yourself up? No, I didn't.
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Chapter 7: How does the discussion shift to the dynamics of young coaches in rugby?
You've got to prop yourself up. You've got to sit up a bit, mate.
You've got to prop. You've got to be like that.
It's like a drainage issue. I'll prop myself up tonight. Are you lying flat during the fit? Oh, man. Well, not flat. Sometimes I'm not even sure. Sometimes I think to myself, you literally did come down in the last shower. Yeah. Like, you're a new soul, man. Well, the last shower was very fresh as well. You're a new soul. I reckon this is the first time you've ever been on Earth. Must be.
Not very wise.
Yeah, yeah. This is a reincarnation. There's no old soul about you at all. No, no, no. He's brand new. You're a freshie.
You never heard that trick. The proper.
Exactly. It's just not even a trick.
It's more just like, how do you, what do you do when you... Need to blow your nose, you get a tissue. It wouldn't surprise me, the youth of this man's soul. He's just blowing his nose into his hand. And that's why you're so happy-go-lucky and you're so nice and sweet. You haven't been beaten down by life. You are probably the youngest soul I know. Cody's probably gone through like 400 souls.
Like, he's an old soul. Yeah, Cody doesn't want to come back anymore. Cody's over coming back. He's like, how many more times do I need to do this shit, dude? I'm fucking over it. Fuck's sake.
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Chapter 8: What insights are shared about personal experiences with sickness and recovery?
You know what I mean? You don't just get to come in and fucking sit here like a sour little dick. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like a shriveled up little banjo, dude. We've got some sick things we can listen to, boys, from Sam Rigney. Are you guys keen? I need you to be like a radio guy. We're going to listen to something from Sam Rigney. A little foreskin shriveled up in the sun.
Well, how about do you want to listen to something from Sam Rigney? No. Nah. Right, move on. What's next? Tom Dearden, out of origin. He is out of origin. We win. No, he is. We win. Ben Iken, out of origin as well. We win. We win. Ponger at six.
It's been thrown around.
You see Ponger at six?
Yeah, I've heard that a couple of times.
With Munster.
I've heard that a couple of times.
Makes sense. Well, listen, if you want us to win. I've heard Jake Clifford being thrown around. Mate, I don't want someone like him picked.
Because he'll probably rip.
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