Chapter 1: What is Jameela Jamil's role in advocating for body neutrality?
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And now you can see her in People We Meet on Vacation, whose author we chatted with last week. When she's not acting, she's a powerful body neutrality activist and award winning podcast host. She's one of the most incisive advocates for women's rights on the planet. Welcome to the family, Jameela Jamil. Yeah. Welcome to our house.
How are you doing? How is 2026 treating you so far? Oh, you know, World War.
Pretty good. Yeah, I think after 2019 and what a fucking cunt we were when we were like by 2019, it's all about 2020. And then boy, were we taught a lesson. I've just stopped participating in trying to predict anything anymore. And I'm really just, I just want to get strong. I want to get strong so I can hit someone if I need to.
Physically strong. Mentally strong? No, physically strong.
I feel like I'm already mentally strong. I'd like to now embody that physically. So I'd like some big muscles.
Now, as an athlete, are we working on this? Are we in the gym? Are we lifting?
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Chapter 2: How does Jameela Jamil feel about societal beauty standards?
Yeah, yeah. I just, I really, I feel very strongly like I would like to put up a good fight if anyone tries to kidnap me, which they shouldn't because I'm perimenopausal. Shit's drying up. It's not going to be good for anyone. But still, I want to go down swinging.
And you'll just be talking to the kidnappers too. Oh my God.
And then they're going to be like, okay, get out of here. Shut up. Did you hear about the little boy who sang the same gospel song for several hours and then they gave him back?
A kid was kidnapped and did this? Where?
In America.
no way yeah he was that annoying yeah he was so annoying they were like that is me you know and with perimenopause as well you got to hear this too man yeah 100% foolproof but also I love that you're getting stronger I'm a big fan of it yeah I'm so distressed by the state of the internet and everyone's saying that if you want supermodel legs you should stop exercising and that muscles make you bigger and they make you hungrier skinny
talk has lost its fucking mind um and so i would love to do everything i can to promote getting as fucking big and strong like we are we are we are not just in a world war we are at a gender war that is now occurring where our rights are being stripped away and you know i was reading yesterday that there's a a pro-rape club that was supposed to meet up did you read about this and a bunch of female fighters found out about it and turned up there's a boxing club that threatened
and to show up, so they cancelled it. So they cancelled the pro-rape club. But a pro-rape club exists. It's like, this is not the time for us to lose our muscles. This is not the time to atrophy. This is the time to get as big and strong as possible.
I think the wrestling club or the boxing club should have not threatened and just showed up. 100%. What a huge mistake.
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Chapter 3: What personal experiences shaped Jameela's views on eating disorders?
But my point being that the likelihood is, like there've been several cases of interviewing people who have assaulted women before and they say they're looking for the easy target. They're looking for someone who's looking down. They're looking for someone who carries themselves in a small, weak way. So it's so crazy to me that Gen Z is encouraging women to get smaller.
There's that fucking slogan, hashtag stay skinny, stay safe. And it's like... That is, you're much easier to lift and put into a van. Yeah, absolutely. Stay skinny, stay safe. How so? I don't know, but it's a big slogan on the internet and it really bums me out because it's just, I just don't understand how something so stupid can be said out loud and then reposted.
There's no way of explaining something when you're that mentally ill of like that, if that is like a sickness to have it. So there's no way to be like, oh, I guess they maybe mean this. It's no, they're just wrong in the head.
Yeah.
Once someone tried to kidnap, like two men tried to kidnap me, I wrote about this on Substack, like once two men tried to kidnap me after using rehypnol on me and I was bigger than I am at the time, sorry, I was bigger at the time than I am now, but I still had like a small face so they couldn't tell underneath my coat that I would be heavy and they tried to lift me and couldn't and I only found out the following morning when the police took me back to the bar and
to see what had happened, you know, because I had to be, I'd been taken to the hospital. I don't drink, so everyone knew immediately I'd been drugged.
Something was up, yeah.
Yeah, and so I go back with the police and I have to watch on CCTV these two men, like, put their knees into it. Right. They're like... Proper form.
Yeah.
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Chapter 4: How does Jameela Jamil define strength and empowerment for women?
Hi. It's so nice to meet you, by the way.
Hi, guys. I'm such a big fan.
I'm such a big fan. We have gone straight into the deep end. I hope you're well. Oh, my gosh. Thank you.
We're so happy you're here. So we're going to go into what we call our group chat. We just talk about what's been happening in our text thread this week. What's going on in our lives. Shout out to Peloton for sponsoring the group chat today. We... The two of us on the couch. The two of us on the couch here were at the premiere two nights ago for People We Met on Vacation. We saw you coming down.
I think they brought you down the wrong side or something to your seat. I was like, there she is. We'll see you later this week. But then you were surrounded by people all day. Oh, yeah. I was like, it's a big night.
Did you see me fall over?
No.
When did you do that? I spilled. Where? Boy, did I spill. And then I got something called a marble burn. on my arm, which I didn't know. It's like a, I guess it's like the middle class version of carpet burn. I don't know. But there was a marble floor in the cinema and I just tanked it in front of absolutely everyone. So my arms and my knees just...
I got smashed my publicist was saying that she can still hear the sound of my kneecaps like hitting the ground but it was in front of literally everyone so I'm glad that you didn't well not them though not us and if we saw we would have looked away thank you we wouldn't have brought it up today wouldn't have helped just would have looked away that's cool how was it working on the movie
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Chapter 5: What insights does Jameela provide about the impact of social media?
Was that always your dream, or did you almost use it as a tool? Because I saw the power in social media. Did you see the power in acting and being in those spaces?
Yeah, I was an English teacher and I got street scouted to try out for television. There was a big nationwide call and I went to the audition and I got it and I became a TV host. And then after that, I went and worked at the BBC and then I became a documentary maker at the BBC. And then I got bored, so I went to America just to try something new and be a writer.
I also really didn't enjoy fame, lol, or being on camera or being perceived or having my photograph taken, lol. And so I was like, I'm going to go and just become a writer if I'm lucky in America. And I was 28, 29. Everyone was telling me that my time was up anyway. Because it was 15 years ago. That's what things were like. So I... Or 10 years ago. So I got here. I wrote this screenplay.
It passed around to a few different people. Someone knew an agent who then... A manager who wanted to meet me. I went and met that manager. He signed me. And then the audition for The Good Place came up. And I had never acted before. So I thought it was ludicrous for me to go. But I went and then unbelievably I got it. And... they forced me to join social media to promote the show.
And that was the first time. You know, I'd been on Twitter, but I used Twitter just to be a dick. As you should. And understanding social media and how toxic it was for girls. made me realize, oh, acting and the platform this gives me and social media means that I can say all the shit my 12-year-old self needed to hear.
And so it was an immediate light bulb switch of like, oh my God, the power of a platform on a scale I've never had before. You know, I went from 16,000 followers to 2 million in a year. And so that was just like that for me, for little old English me in America felt insane. And then I've just been kind of doing my best since. I don't profess to be a genius or an expert. I left school at 17.
I'm just doing my best to be what I needed when I was little, which includes fallible. It includes making mistakes. It includes being messy and getting things wrong and saying sorry and coming back and doing better. All the things that we allow men to do. So it's all been a surprise journey. But the one thing, the through line since I was 19 has been advocacy.
That's something I've always had at the forefront of my sense of purpose.
Was there an inciting incident at 19 where you were like, this is what I got to do?
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Chapter 6: How does Jameela Jamil's first kiss story reflect her journey?
And I can never stop posting about, I'm sorry if you get sick of my content people, but I can never stop posting about being strong and being healthy because the next video I see, I've been getting a lot of weight loss ads on TikTok I was telling you. And I press not interested. I press unpleasant. I try to scroll away and I keep getting them.
So for me, it's like I'm not doing I'm doing this for the other people. I'm doing it for the young girls who I know are growing up in this. But I'm also doing it for myself because it's it's hard out there. I mean, I'm very confident in my body, but I also feel at times like I wish my stomach was a little bit. Oh, she did lipo and she got like that. That's so easy. That's simple.
And so I have to, I do this for myself to put it out there because if I'm going through it, somebody whose body is my job, my body's taking me to two Olympics and Olympic medal. And yet I still. Same. Yeah, of course. Everyone here. Famously. And I still have problems with it. So I'm like, man, it's a never ending thing. I will never stop talking about it.
I just think we remember you getting angry when you saw somebody that you know made a post about weight loss drugs or whatever. And you were like, that makes my job harder. I'm like, I got to clock in again. I got to clock in and make another video. Yeah, I don't want to talk about this. All the time.
I'm so sick of it. I'm in my 20th year speaking about this publicly and I'm saying the same thing. Nothing I've said has even been able to evolve because the situation continues to devolve. I'd love to talk about comedy. I'd love to talk about more projects and things that I'm doing. I would love to talk about other issues in the world. There's bigger shit going on to a certain degree.
But this is also so fucking serious. For eating disorders, for anorexia, et cetera, to be the number one cause of death in any mental, like the highest cause of death in any mental health issue. This is something that we cannot ignore that's being glamorized and perpetuated by people with huge platforms. And it's just so hard not to feel murderous about it.
Because it means I and you and the very small pool of us who are left. Because I don't know how you feel about it, but I'm like, oh, there used to be more people in this room.
Wait a second. She was really... Okay.
Yeah, it's echoing around us. Hello, hello. Which is why I love you so much because you're just out here fighting the fight and I'm like, oh, thank Christ you're still here and you are still talking about this stuff as tedious as it is. All of you, like just, thank God.
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Chapter 7: What lessons does Jameela share about self-acceptance and confidence?
And it's all a fucking scam. And because I'm so old, I've been around now for so many of these loops. My exact hairstyle has gone, I've had it since I was two, right? So it's 38 years. It is the longest relationship in Hollywood's history. Right.
It is unbelievable to watch my face and picture be used as an example of like, this is the hairstyle, this is the trend of the year once every like three or four years. So you're like, what's the point in changing it? George Clooney has not changed his fucking hair since he was in ER or whatever the fuck he did. Why should I have to? Yeah. because it's just gonna come back around again.
And I think something that's so important to remember is that it's all a loop. The reason that many people rush to hurt or mutilate or punish themselves to meet a trend is because they think they're gonna be left behind. You cannot be left behind in a loop. It's gonna come back around. Now that everyone's getting skinny, as soon as everyone manages to achieve the beauty aesthetic,
the beauty aesthetic shifts and shifts dramatically. So everyone who had their BBLs that they almost died for removed and their breast implants removed, they're now going to have to go and be like, fuck, do I need to go back and get that? Do I need to get another one back?
You know, we're hearing about in, I think, Korea, the women are now having bumps put into their noses because now the new status of beauty is to have a deviated nose. So the little button dolly nose is now gone. It's like people spend a lot of money on that. Listen. And now we're doing facelifts and maybe at some point facelifts will come out.
And it's just, you know, everyone had their jaw shaved. I bet a wide jaw is going to come back in. Whatever it is, it's coming in at some point. It's just going to come in once you've spent all your money getting the other thing. So I just choose to save my money. I refuse. I've looked exactly the same since I was born. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Since I was born. Since I was born.
I came out like this, wearing this jacket, okay? That wing, that wing liner.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Exactly. And people get so mad at me and I'm doing it out of spite. It is an act of resistance to never change the way that I look because I am highlighting the scam of it all. And the reason I was talking about Odessa Ozan, it's like plenty of people look like Odessa Ozan, but no one is being propped up in the mainstream the way that she is who looks like that. And it's because,
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Chapter 8: How does Jameela Jamil view the future of women's rights?
I didn't know it was gone. Yes! Yes! This is your time. It's supposed to have now a puffy labia. So it's called a puffy labia. So they're putting filler in their labia. Yes, this is real. This is real. And do you know how many nerve endings there are around your labia? I'm thinking like, can you ride a bike after that?
Oh, yeah. Are we?
A horse? Absolutely not. No. No. So you need to have a puffy labia. And all the weight loss injections are shriveling people's labias. So that's a perfect time to be like, well, we need to fill that back up.
Interesting. Interesting. And this reminds me of the spite thing I just heard on the Internet, too. It's like my high horse has saved me time and time again. by being on a high horse about certain things. Like I never tried vapes. I never did that because I was on a high horse about it. And I'm, you know, I'm not addicted to the chemicals or whatever about it because I was on that high horse.
And I'm like, yeah, my high horse has saved my life a couple of times, especially from beauty standards and how they all change.
I'm the same with the manicures, facials, all of these things. I'm like, if my boyfriend's not spending money on it, I'm not spending money on it.
Like, that's it.
I just go pound for pound with him. It's like, well, he's willing to spend money on, he spends money on one moisturizer. I spend money on one moisturizer. I'm like, this motherfucker is not going to have more money than me. Right. Right. We're competitive. Yeah. You know, about our bank balance.
Interesting. I'm like, right, okay, I'm going to.
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