Seasoned executive recruiter and venture capitalist Andy Price joins Nolan Church and Kelli Dragovich for an inside-the-room look at the intricate dance of hiring, retaining, and evolving top-tier talent. Andy has assembled leadership teams for companies like Snowflake, DocuSign, Confluent, Amplitude, and ServiceNow.From the critical role of empathy in leadership transitions to the long-term value of investing in talent development, Price's insights challenge listeners preconcieved notions about hiring and maintaining world-class execs. This episode is a compelling exploration of how the right people, in the right roles, with the right support, can transform good companies into great ones. *Email us your questions or topics for Kelli & Nolan: [email protected] Heretics is a podcast from Turpentine.🔥 Apply to join over 400 Founders and Execs in the Turpentine Network:https://www.turpentinenetwork.co/Support HR Heretics Sponsor:Metaview is the AI assistant for interviewing. Metaview completely removes the need for recruiters and hiring managers to take notes during interviews—because their AI is designed to take world-class interview notes for you. Team builders at companies like Brex, Hellofresh, and Quora say Metaview has changed the game—see the magic for yourself: https://www.metaview.ai/hereticsKEEP UP WITH ANDY, NOLAN, + KELLI ON LINKEDINAndy: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andyprice1/Nolan: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nolan-church/Kelli: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kellidragovich/—LINKS:Artisanal Ventures:https://artisanalv.com/—TIMESTAMPS: (00:00) Intro (00:39)Why is the hit rate for execs so low? (03:47) How to mitigate a bad executive outcome (04:18) The Artisanal process to mitigate a bad outcome (07:44) Back channels in executive recruiting (11:05) When should a CEO back channel? (12:40) How many back channels are too many? (14:00) Dealing with personality fit issues after hiring an exec (16:34) Sponsor: Metaview (17:46) The importance of onboarding and post-hire support (18:47) How to vet search firms (22:37) Name-dropping in executive recruiting (25:13) Founders trying to run searches on their own (29:05) The importance of staying close with search firms (30:13) Hiring for experience vs. trajectory (34:16) The importance of orchestration in executive transitions (35:40) The role of ego in executive transitions (36:13) Involvement of layered executives in the interview process (38:53) Setting expectations for layered executives (39:22) The importance of studying successful executive transitions (40:40) How to help up-and-comers scale (43:03) The importance of advisors and coaches (45:36) Executive career management (48:43) Executive tenure and the importance of grit (51:17) Importance of doing meaningful work before seeking new roles (51:55) Importance of authenticity in the executive world (52:38) Wrap This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit hrheretics.substack.com

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