Scale AI's CEO sparks debate with "MEI" - is meritocracy a threat to diversity?Kelli and Nolan, together with Richard Ni, Scale AI’s former Head of People, weigh in on the implications of this new hiring policy. Together, they discuss the role of meritocracy and company culture and offer actionable insights for HR professionals for talent acquisition and building a diverse workforce.*Email us your questions or topics for Kelli & Nolan: [email protected] Heretics is a podcast from Turpentine.Support HR Heretics Sponsors:Metaview is the AI assistant for interviewing. Metaview completely removes the need for recruiters and hiring managers to take notes during interviews—because their AI is designed to take world-class interview notes for you. Team builders at companies like Brex, Hellofresh, and Quora say Metaview has changed the game—see the magic for yourself: https://www.metaview.ai/hereticsDiscover Workvivo, Zoom’s employee experience platform, designed to delight your hybrid workforce. With dynamic and intuitive features people actually like using, Workvivo fosters a sense of belonging and boosts retention and productivity. Join Ryanair, Dollar General, and Virgin — head to https://bit.ly/hrhereticsworkvivo to book a demo (tell them Kelli and Nolan sent you).Attio is the next generation of CRM. It’s powerful, flexible, and easily configures to the unique way your startup runs, whatever your go-to-market motion. The next era deserves a better CRM. Join ElevenLabs, Replicate, Modal, and more at https://bit.ly/AttioHRHereticsKEEP UP WITH RICHARD, NOLAN, + KELLI ON LINKEDINRichard: https://www.linkedin.com/in/richard-ni-a5605543Nolan: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nolan-church/Kelli: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kellidragovich/—TIMESTAMPS:(00:00) Introduction(02:09) Richard's Perspective on MEI(04:16) Kelli's Take on Meritocracy vs. DEI(07:11) Nolan's Counterpoint: Meritocracy's Imperfections (09:06) The Importance of Transparency and Seeking Improvement(13:00) Richard's Analysis of Scale AI's Motivation(14:34) The Importance of Human Decision-Making and Corruption(19:00) The Imperfections of Humans and Systems(22:22) The Impact of Tech Giants on Expectations(24:40) The Impact of Economic Pressure on Companies(29:48) Wrap This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit hrheretics.substack.com

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