Congressman Goes Off On Trump And His Gestapo, "Abolish ICE, There Is No Fixing This"

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Jennifer Welch 0:05
All right, welcome to IHIP News. Today, I have my favorite congressman, Congressman Robert Garcia, the ranking member on the House Oversight Committee. Congressman, should ICE be abolished?
Robert Garcia 0:16
100%. No question. ICE should be abolished. Christine Elm should be impeached. There is just no reforming an agency that is murdering our own citizens, that is kidnapping children, that is throwing people to the ground. and blinding them or causing great harm to people in communities. Look, people have to remember that ICE hasn't been around forever. This is actually a newer agency. When you look at the history of our country, we can do without it, and it should be abolished.
Jennifer Welch 0:49
And what do you say to people that would have the argument like, I forget her name, the senator from Michigan. She said, I'm pro-law enforcement.

What is Congressman Robert Garcia's stance on abolishing ICE?

Jennifer Welch 1:01
How do we make this argument? Because to me, I think abolishing ICE is a moderate position. And I even would argue that a moderate position would be prosecute ICE. But two middle Americans that have this, they think, oh, we need to be safe. They're terrorized by Fox News all the time. Why don't we need ICE?
Robert Garcia 1:23
Look, I think actually, if you want to be pro-law enforcement, you should actually want to abolish ICE. And let me explain why. Right now... What ICE is doing is causing massive distrust with local police officers, local law enforcement on the ground, who have worked really hard to regain the trust of their communities. I've talked to local police officers. I was mayor of a city with 800 cops before I got to Congress just a few years ago. I've talked to those rank and file cops, our local police chiefs, they are horrified by what they're seeing and what ICE is doing. And their concern is the danger that now they're being put in, their concern about how folks are gonna associate ICE and their tactics with what they're doing.
Robert Garcia 2:09
So if we really wanna support Law enforcement, I would say to my Democratic colleagues, we have to abolish ICE. We can't say that this is OK or that somehow this is somehow how we are going to act and fund. They don't deserve a penny more.
Jennifer Welch 2:25
Okay, so Alligator Alcatraz, the people that were in it, nobody knows where they are. Do you have any information on that? That alone, before we get to the murders of Renee Good and Alex Preddy, the fact that I think it's 1,800 people are missing. They're not in a database. Do you have any information on that?
Robert Garcia 2:45
Look, we don't. And that's what's really scary. And it's not just what's happening at Alligator Alcatraz. This is happening across the country and in detention centers. We know that ICE has now tried to limit oversight, congressional visits, even though we've won lawsuits in the courts. Alligator Alcatraz has been a horrific abuse of human rights. God knows who is making unlimited amounts of money. Billions of dollars are being made on these detention centers by private industry. So we have to be very, very aggressive in oversight. I'm actually been talking a lot to Congressman Maxwell Frost. So the two of us actually intend to hopefully visit Alligator Alcatraz soon to also ensure that people understand what's actually happening, not just there,
Robert Garcia 3:29
but across the country as well. He's been a leader in the Congress on that issue. We have to think about, for example, the young kid, Liam, the five-year-old. We barely know how he's doing or where he's at. There are children, grandparents, mothers are being snatched up off the street, taken to detention centers in horrific, inhumane conditions. And Kristi Noem is at the top who's directing all of this chaos. Her and Stephen Miller need to both be held directly accountable. And for all those agents out there that are working at these facilities that, and some of them might know they're being ordered to do the wrong thing. This is a moment of courage because we are not just going to abolish ICE. We are going to prosecute those that have caused harm and those that are doing harm on the American public and the inhumanity of the moment.
Robert Garcia 4:16
So people need to be very careful and remember that Donald Trump is not going to be the president forever.

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