Disgusting Supreme Court Rules In Favor Of Gay Conversion Camps?

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What recent Supreme Court ruling is discussed in this episode?

Jennifer Welch 0:04
The damage and the abuse that we are living through isn't just exclusive to Trump. You have to go back to the John Roberts Supreme Court and the unleashing of Citizens United that paved the way for this fascist, authoritarian, regressive form of government. And Donald Trump knows that he has this court in the palm of his hands. Some breaking news came out yesterday. Pop this up. Fox News reports President Trump tells Fox News Peter Doocy he's going to Supreme Court Wednesday for expected birthright citizenship arguments. Ron Filipkowski of the Midas Touch says no sitting president has ever appeared before the Supreme Court during oral arguments in the history of the United States. And this court truly is a piece of work because yesterday the Associated Press reports the following.
Jennifer Welch 0:57
Pop this up. Supreme Court rules against Colorado ban on conversion therapy for LGBTQ plus kids. And we have all seen that this group of people have been so abused and so marginalized. And now that abuse is institutionalized.

How does the Supreme Court ruling impact conversion therapy bans?

Jennifer Welch 1:17
And here to discuss this with me is Kelly Robinson. We are so honored to welcome Kelly. She is the president of the Human Rights Campaign, the nation's largest LGBTQ plus civil rights organization working to achieve equality for LGBTQ plus people. She is a trailblazing advocate and leader in the fight for human rights and the first black queer woman to lead the HRC. Let's welcome to IHIP News. Kelly, how are you?
Kelley Robinson 1:48
You know, that's a complicated question. I woke up another day ready to fight.
Jennifer Welch 1:52
I like that. I like that. Kelly, big picture. What are the immediate implications of this ruling?

What are the implications of the ruling for LGBTQ+ youth?

Jennifer Welch 1:59
Are all conversion therapy bans in the United States now gone?
Kelley Robinson 2:04
No, that's really important to know that this is not a blanket legalization of conversion therapy. What it does do is open up a path, a very dangerous path for conversion therapy bans to be challenged at the state level. But I think a couple of things are true. Again, underscoring this is not a blanket legalization of conversion therapy. This does not take away people's rights to sue when they are in when these conversion therapy institutions are engaging in fraud. and misleading them and imposing harm. And it also means that we've got to continue to fight back. Look, every major medical organization acknowledges that this is junk science, that these are harmful practices. Let's follow the science and continue advocating until that's the truth.
Jennifer Welch 2:48
I mean, it's actually kind of like if you were to send somebody to a camp that's heterosexual to make them a different sexuality. That's the insanity of this practice, is it not?

What stories highlight the dangers of conversion therapy?

Jennifer Welch 3:02
It's totally insane.
Kelley Robinson 3:04
I mean, look, there's a reason that medical care is regulated in the United States of America. We want to make sure that folks are getting best practice care for whatever condition it is that they have. And this is no exception to that. This is like if you had if you needed your tonsils removed, and you said, you know what, doctor, just go ahead and freestyle it. Whatever you think you wanna do is just fine. That's not how medical care is supposed to operate. We have to have standards of practice. And I think the damaging thing, and I don't wanna lose this, is the stories that we hear every day. I was with a woman named Linda Robertson during oral arguments for this exact case, and she lost her son to suicide in 2009.
Kelley Robinson 3:44
He turned to drugs after years of painful and harmful conversion therapy.

How does the ruling reflect broader societal issues?

Kelley Robinson 3:50
We are losing members of our community to this harmful practice, and the Supreme Court has opened up a door for more harm to more of our kids and more of our families. That's what happened yesterday.
Jennifer Welch 4:01
So let's discuss the cruelty of this. And I'm gonna go ahead and just call it institutionalized cruelty. And I grew up in a Bible Belt state with a very progressive mother, thank God. In the 1980s, we had a really bad PERMs. really spiked up hair with white rain hairspray. We had a fabulous trans hairdresser and I was in junior high and I said to my mother, like, why? Why is she changing genders? And my mother said, Well, darling, all you need to know is nobody in their right mind would choose to do this in the middle of the Bible Belt.

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