ICE Still Terrorizing America, Trump's Secret Police Continue Killing Innocent People

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What recent ICE shooting incident sparked the episode’s discussion?

Angie Sullivan 0:04
There are so many terrible, horrible, awful things happening in the United States of America. But nothing worse than the fact that the government continues to kill people in ICE custody or ICE continues to kill people. And it's becoming like shootings in America. It's not the top story anymore. We're starting to become numb to this and we mustn't. Here's a video showing ICE killing a man in Maine just yesterday. Play the clip. So as you can see, somebody is recording this on their phone and they have tagged it, the murder of a man by an ICE agent, July 13, And the victim was 26-year-old Joan Sebastian Guerrero, a Colombian man who was not the person ICE was looking for. He had his three-year-old daughter with him in the car.
Angie Sullivan 1:01
None of the officers involved wore body cams. ICE released a statement saying that the officer shot him because they feared for public safety. This is the second person that ICE has shot and killed this week following the death of Lorenzo Salgado Arujo, a 52-year-old Mexican national and Houston homebuilder. Pumps.
Jennifer Welch 1:26
This is so heartbreaking, yet it's, I agree with what, we cannot become numb to it, but it is all too common with school shootings and these shootings. What bothers me about this is people are saying, Steve, AKA, over on Fox, that he was an illegal immigrant. He was here legally. He had a social security number issued. And instead of pulling him out of the car and calling him a fucking bitch, like they did Renee Good, after he had been shot in the head, they pulled him out and cuffed him onto the ground, all in front of his daughter. And I see this and I think, why aren't they wearing body cams? When did the policy of DHS change and law enforcement in general change that when a car is moving, you can shoot into it because that is clearly not the policy of DHS, unless they've changed it.
Jennifer Welch 2:28
And we haven't heard since Christina was there. and law enforcement in general, and then the body cams, the body cams really bother me because remember we saw some of the body cam footage in Renee Good. And then I was watching an analyst discuss that the ICE agents do not want FBI involvement because FBI is required to wear body cams and ICE does not want body cams, which tells me they know they're doing illegal criminal stuff that is going to kill people and they do not want to be held accountable. So there are so many things about this that are disturbing and it continues to happen and it makes me
Angie Sullivan 3:15
sick. So I agree. I just want to point out and add to that that it doesn't matter to me if Joan Sebastian Guerrero was legal or illegal. Absolutely. The United States of America should not shoot human beings in the head in a car with a three-year-old

Why do the hosts argue that ICE’s lack of body‑cam footage is intentional?

Angie Sullivan 3:38
This should be the very last option where a officer's life is imminently or somebody else's safety is imminently under threat. Secondly, of course ICE is not wearing body cams. Of course ICE is saying the rules that apply to all these other law enforcement agencies don't apply to us. This is intentional. This is by design. This is a play out of the autocrat's playbook. This is a massive police force that Donald Trump and Stephen Miller want to terrorize the public. Everything that you're seeing, the shootings, the no body cams, the flagrant cuffing him while he's bleeding out of his head is by design. It is on purpose. They are priming the American public to get used to it. You're going to live with a Gestapo style police force.
Angie Sullivan 4:38
This isn't accidental. This isn't a bug in the system. This is a feature of ICE. This is the way they are going to police the public and they're trying to get us all primed for it. And then here's another video that shows the officers dragging him out onto the street after shooting him. so here he is shot they're dragging him out on the street the man is laid on the pavement and handcuffed instead of given any sort of life-saving medical care and again think about all of the people that isis killed that they do not intentionally give life-saving care to you can think about renee good there was a doctor close down the street that said i'm a physician let me go uh treat her they said no that is on purpose

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