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MAGA Joe Rogan Keeps Flipping On Trump, When Will He Learn?

30 May 2026

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Chapter 1: What are Donald Trump's current disapproval ratings?

4.992 - 31.252 Sawyer Hackett

As a shock to no one, Donald Trump is the most unpopular president since Nixon during Watergate, abysmally low. But I think we can do better. I think it can go even lower. Pop this up. Absolute disaster for the White House. Gallup data confirms Donald Trump's disapproval has collapsed to a staggering 63%. He officially tied Richard Nixon's Watergate era for the highest disapproval in history.

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31.733 - 40.066 Sawyer Hackett

The Trump administration faces total rejection. And here to discuss said rejection with me is Sawyer Hackett.

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Chapter 2: How does Sawyer Hackett perceive Trump's impact on voter sentiment?

40.106 - 58.233 Sawyer Hackett

He is a political strategist turned content creator with more than 15 years of experience advising campaigns and political organizations. Today, you can find him on Instagram, TikTok, and YouTube, breaking down the biggest stories and combining cooking and politics to reach new audiences. Sawyer, welcome to IHIP News.

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58.734 - 59.515 Jennifer Welch

Great to be with you, Jennifer.

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60.256 - 65.965 Sawyer Hackett

All right, what do you think about the disapproval rating of Donald Trump? I think we can do better.

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66.215 - 81.314 Jennifer Welch

I think we can definitely do better. I think, honestly, it feels like the Iran war was really the catalyst for a lot of people coming out of the woodwork with Trump. I mean, it seems like that has kind of coupled with a story about corruption that's really actually starting to reach people for the first time.

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81.374 - 91.547 Jennifer Welch

I mean, it seems like, you know, people like us have been kind of pulling our hair out for the first year of this administration, you know, trying to figure out why voters aren't as pissed off as we are, aren't as, you know,

Chapter 3: What role do centrist Democrats play in the current political landscape?

91.527 - 114.513 Jennifer Welch

glued into the news, paying attention to what's going on. But it does seem like the Iran war really kind of shook people about what Trump is up to, what he's doing, kind of taking his corruption on the road in the Middle East. And really, it started to bring a lot more people into the fold for Democrats, for progressives, to kind of win some of these special elections around the country.

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114.533 - 119.458 Jennifer Welch

So I think people are starting to wake up, but I agree, we can definitely bring those numbers down even more.

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119.624 - 137.346 Sawyer Hackett

We can definitely do better, but I'm really starting to get a tad bit worried about some of the centrist slash corporate Democrats. And I want to play a video for you from former Andrew Cuomo, chief of staff, Melissa DeRosa. Play the clip.

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139.385 - 151.659 Unknown

No, absolutely. I mean, the Maine race really demonstrates the civil war that's happening within the Democratic Party. And there are a lot of Democrats, moderate Democrats like myself, who will not cry tears should we lose Maine.

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Chapter 4: Why are progressive candidates gaining traction against establishment Democrats?

152 - 154.086 Unknown

I mean, that would be a pickup to begin with.

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155.399 - 174.12 Sawyer Hackett

I don't know about you, Sawyer, but I'm from a state called Oklahoma, and a lot of humans, women in particular, are crying a lot of tears over Susan Collins' vote to confirm Brett Kavanaugh. And then, of course, we know it overturned Roe. If you're raped in Oklahoma, you have no rights. If you're molested, you have no rights.

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174.2 - 195.539 Sawyer Hackett

If you have a debilitating, life-threatening situation with your pregnancy, you have zero rights. You are subhuman as a woman in the state of Oklahoma. This is so offensive to me that I'm sure she sits in a blue state somewhere and talks like this about Susan Collins because that's the other option there. is Susan Collins.

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195.559 - 203.458 Sawyer Hackett

So she might not be crying about it because Graham Plattner isn't all synced up with all of the pimps that she wants to prostitute the Democratic Party out to.

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Chapter 5: What are the implications of Trump's slush fund for future elections?

203.518 - 210.415 Sawyer Hackett

But I can tell you in the state of Oklahoma, education is 50th because of policies just like this.

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211.289 - 228.178 Jennifer Welch

I mean, this is insane. You know, Melissa DeRosa is fairly irrelevant. I mean, her opinion, I think, is pretty dismissible. I mean, this is somebody who's worked for Andrew Cuomo most of her life, and now she wants to lecture us about a candidate with baggage. I mean, it's kind of hilarious. to hear that coming out of someone like her.

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229.019 - 249.885 Jennifer Welch

But honestly, this is very reminiscent, I think, of a lot of the vote blue no matter who crowd, who they expect progressives and folks on the left to get in line and vote for any kind of centrist Democrat that they nominate in any given state. But then when a progressive wins in an open primary and defeats a more establishment Democrat,

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249.865 - 255.934 Jennifer Welch

that they can go on Fox News and write op-eds and gripe about how they won't shed a tear when we lose this election.

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Chapter 6: How does the podcast discuss the concept of political centrism?

256.054 - 277.527 Jennifer Welch

I mean, it's so shallow and vapid, these people. They're just after kind of protecting those contracts, protecting their connections and their access to these centrist politicians who have kind of lined their pockets over decades. But really, it's just pathetic. I mean, this is happening across the country that incumbent Democrats

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277.507 - 299.363 Jennifer Welch

are losing or coming up short to progressive candidates who are running these kind of insurgent campaigns, who are not insiders, who are coming from spaces outside of politics. And they're winning these races with the help of voters. It's not with huge corporate PACs or tons of insiders writing op-eds or endorsing them. These candidates are doing it the hard way. They're working hard.

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299.403 - 300.645 Jennifer Welch

And then you have

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Chapter 7: What strategies do Democrats need to adopt for the 2028 elections?

300.625 - 320.271 Jennifer Welch

these centrist strategists who go on TV the next day and just kind of completely shit on the nominee in an effort to lower enthusiasm for candidates like Graham Plattner. And really it's just to the detriment of the democratic success in November. I mean, we have a chance in November to not just take back the House, but take the Senate.

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320.912 - 335.695 Jennifer Welch

And it will be on the heels of candidates like Graham Platner. We won't be able to do that without candidates like Graham Platner. And so really, I think this just demonstrates how irrelevant some of these centrist strategists who have kind of staffed the Democratic Party over so many years.

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335.995 - 341.684 Sawyer Hackett

And not to mention how dismissive it is of Maine voters. And their concerns, yeah. Yeah.

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Chapter 8: What final thoughts does Sawyer Hackett share about Texas politics?

341.704 - 361.277 Sawyer Hackett

I mean, this is who they want. This guy's worked his ass off. He's speaking to them and going against the record of Susan Collins. But let me ask you this. We don't talk about this enough. What is a centrist, in your opinion? What is it? What does that mean? What is a moderate? What is a centrist?

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361.493 - 379.396 Jennifer Welch

It's kind of become irrelevant because it used to mean, you know, it was, it used to be tied to ideology. It used to be something that was, uh, you know, on a breadth of different issues, you could kind of find them right in the middle of the spectrum between the polls on the left and the polls on the right. Now today, it just doesn't really, it's completely hollowed out its meaning.

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379.416 - 388.95 Jennifer Welch

And really I think centrist today just means corporate. corporate Democrat or corporate candidate. Because really these candidates don't have any kind of through line through their ideology.

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388.97 - 406.275 Jennifer Welch

They don't believe in the Democratic Party should represent this or that as much as they think that the Democratic Party should represent their interests and the interests that have lined their pockets over many decades. I've always had a hard time with the term centrist, with the term moderate, because really, they don't really make sense in our politics anymore.

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406.395 - 427.384 Jennifer Welch

I mean, where does Donald Trump fall on the spectrum? It makes no sense to label these people this way. But I do think for people within the Democratic coalition, this term is helpful to kind of signify that it tends to be the more ideologically you know, centrist candidates that are the corporate PAC Democrats.

427.464 - 443.678 Jennifer Welch

I think that we have to start making those connections for voters within our own coalition because, you know, too often we get tricked. I mean, like, look at what's happening in Virginia right now with Abigail Spanberger. I mean, this is a person who has always been kind of a centrist candidate. You know, she gets elected kind of on a centrist message,

443.658 - 457.553 Jennifer Welch

promises all these big progressive things and pushes forward on a lot of them, and then immediately decides to stick it in the eye of the progressive movement as soon as she gets into office. To me, that's not necessarily, and it's not necessarily on ideological grounds, right? It's just to stick it to the left.

457.613 - 467.824 Jennifer Welch

It's just to punch down in an effort to appease the kind of like corporate class that has guided our politics. And so, yeah, you're right. I mean, centrist doesn't really mean much these days, but I think corporate makes more sense.

467.844 - 497.34 Sawyer Hackett

Well, and let's talk about it as it's, inherently dismissive of the left by saying, well, I'm a moderate or I'm a centrist. Then you're saying they're crazy over here and then they're also crazy here on the left. So let's talk about what these people would define as crazy on the left. And to me, it always boils down to empowering people. Zoran, per the centrist, is a radical leftist.

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