Encore: The OTHER Harvey Weinstein Scandal

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What is the main topic discussed in this episode?

Just a quick warning, the episode you're about to hear contains strong language. Hey, everyone. Natalie here.

What is the background of Andrew Goldman and his work?

This week, we're revisiting one of our favorite episodes with Andrew Goldman, a longtime journalist whose new podcast, Dead Certain, has been getting a lot of buzz. Dead Certain is about the 1975 murder of Martha Moxley and the case against the Kennedy cousin who was convicted in the killing. But today, Andrew's not talking about that. He's telling us another story from his vault, one that is also about how power and justice do and do not work. Here's the episode. Campsite Media
Vanessa Grigoriadis 1:03
Welcome to Infamous, a production of Campside Media and Sony Music Entertainment. I'm Vanessa Grigoriadis. Thank you for listening to our show. Today, we're talking to an old friend of mine who was in a scandal himself with Harvey Weinstein, one of the most infamous men in America. Now, this scandal does not involve the serious crimes you're thinking of. Let me introduce you to Andrew Goldman, help you get to know him, and then we'll move on to Harvey. Okay, so you're in New York. You're working at the New York Observer. Can you explain what that is?
Andrew Goldman 1:45
It was a full of attitude newspaper that was run then by this incredibly charismatic editor named Peter Kaplan. Generally, the marching orders were to go out and make some noise and to be funny and to be snarky.
Vanessa Grigoriadis 2:04
So what were you writing about?
Andrew Goldman 2:05
I was kind of doing features and stringing for their scene slash gossip column called The Transom.
Vanessa Grigoriadis 2:11
I do want to just explicate this bizarre job that both of you and I seem to have had. Being sent into these parties with rich and famous people, not having to stick out your tape recorder and get a second from Kim Kardashian. Actually having to put a gown on. I had two gowns that I had to wear in order to go to the Rockefeller estate.
Andrew Goldman 2:37
You know, it's how fancy of you to actually have your own gown, because when I was at the Observer, we had an Observer tuxedo that was so stinky and smelly. But anybody who had to go to one of these events would wear this thing and you'd find like, you know, a crudité in the pocket. It was like a communal, a communal, poorly fitting tuxedo. I went to a party that was a celebration of Kathy and Rick Hilton's anniversary. And there were no seats available for me, except for one. The one seat available was between Imelda Marcos and Leona Helmsley. I just, I was so, I was like, basically immediately had this flop sweat. I was like, I cannot sit between the two most famously mean people in America right now.

What was the significance of Harvey Weinstein in the film industry?

Andrew Goldman 3:32
Imelda Marcos, who was, had been married to Ferdinand Marcos. He was one of these dictators from the Philippines who had basically robbed the Philippines of billions. And Imelda became very famous because she had a closet filled with thousands and thousands of pairs of designer shoes, like, you know, probably millions of dollars worth of shoes. So her closet became the big joke and her shoes became the big joke. And then, of course, Leona Helmsley. I think that Leona Helmsley might have been known as the Queen of Need. She was a hotelier when Leona Helmsley died, which was probably 15 years ago. She left all of her money to this ridiculous, like, lapdog.
Vanessa Grigoriadis 4:16
Trouble. It's the pampered pooch who inherited $12 million.
Yes, yeah.
Andrew Goldman 4:22
Anyway, so there are a few stories that I can dine out on. One of them is the Harvey Weinstein story. Another one would have been my dinner with the Queen of Mean and the Queen of Shoes.
Vanessa Grigoriadis 4:33
Okay, so tell me what happened.
Andrew Goldman 4:34
So this was in the year 2000. I was frequently covering parties for the transom. However, I had a younger colleague who I was actually dating at the time named Rebecca Traister who was doing a film column. She was doing really great work on these stories on independent film in New York. And at that moment – Basically, the king of New York independent cinema was Harvey Weinstein. He'd created something that didn't exist before, which was a real... bonafide studio uh in tribeca which was called miramax um and he and his brother had built it from nothing and you know had had this string of oscar-winning hits like shakespeare in love my heart belongs to you but i will marry wessex a week from saturday goodwill hunting the most gifted mind to ever enter its classrooms is the person who cleans its floors

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