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Chapter 1: When did Mitch Greer realize she was trans?
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Hi, everyone. I'm here with one of my best friends, Mitch Greer. Hello, Chookie Girls. Hello. We heard your birthday yesterday. We were like, time to get my girl in. Yeah. So excited. Sorry, everyone. Mitch has gone viral kind of recently. Well, in general. Well, in my life, she's always been viral. Sorry, the voice. We've got to stop the voice. We actually can't do it, babe.
Like, we actually can't be constantly going, sorry. Get a sorry out before. Sorry, mate.
Sorry.
But we actually can't. We're ill. We are ill. It's actually worrying. Like when we have dinner, we need to, we spend a lot of the time just talking like Sherilyn Barnes, about Sherilyn Barnes. Yes. See, it's happening now. Yeah, any story we tell will be in Sherilyn Barnes' voice. Yeah, or style as well. Yeah. See, but we're going to really try this episode to not do it.
Yeah.
Because Mitch is here because she's done a few videos recently that are really, really good and it's your most commonly asked questions as a trans woman. And I think it's really interesting, I think particularly right now where everything's going a bit backwards and trans people are being used as these figureheads of ā
for politicians and people to like kind of use them as pawns and go well I'm pro-trans I'm anti-trans you know it's like I think it's a really good way of you going well this is my opinion as a trans person as an individual rather than being like I'm speaking for the whole community yeah exactly because I've never spoken for a whole community and I never I never will no I have such a unique experience and I think everyone does too like it's so hard to speak
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Chapter 2: How did Mitch's family react to her transition?
Yeah, especially one as diverse as trans people. Like it's ā there are people all over the world that are trans with all different experiences and all different understandings of ā and preferences as well of what they like and what they don't like and what they will tolerate and what they won't tolerate. But I've loved seeing your videos and everyone like losing their minds.
Like we were laughing before about the most viral one is where do you go to the bathroom? And it's like calm the fuck down. But we're at a stage now where people ā everywhere now aware of trans people and they're learning about the basics, like entry-level things. Yeah, because we were saying that's the most boring question I've asked. So boring. Why is that one the most viral?
And we're like, okay, so this is interesting I think for all of you to hear, also because you all love Mitch anyway. You've all been gagging to have her back. Thank you. But I think it could be good to send to people in your lives that don't know trans people to just hear someone talking about Hate to say it, but normally. Sorry, last Sherrilyn Barnes reference. Last Sherrilyn Barnes reference.
But, yeah, so I've got 13 questions, Mitch. And we're going to kind of do like a you can't ask that style. So don't think that these are my questions that I've prepped Because she actually knows the answers to every one of these questions. Yeah. And Mitch is one of my best friends. So I'm not asking going, where do you piss? You know, like Jesus fucking Christ.
But the first question I thought we should answer is how we met. Yes. Which is not a, you can't ask that question, but I think it's a cute little. It is. It's like a meet cute. Yeah. Do you remember? Yeah. We're at the TBH event. Yes. TBH skincare. It's not even called TBH anymore. Is it not? No, they've changed it. Oh, what's it called now? It's called the breakout hack.
Oh, yeah, I think it's copywriting or trademarking. Because they were launching internationally. Good on them. She's lovely. She's lovely. She's lovely. So we were at this event and I think I was seated next to you.
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Chapter 3: What challenges did Mitch face in school as a trans woman?
Yeah, it was like a seated lunch and it was like you had Rowdy there, you were there and we're all seated next to each other.
Yeah.
And, you know, actually, sorry to reference Chez again, but like I could just hear that you guys were talking like shits and I thought, no, no, no.
some chucky girls over here he's big up you go hello so really actually shes brought us together yeah she did thank you sheryl um she yeah so we were at a lunch together we were chatting and then we were feeling each other and then we went to a bar after the work event it was like a date then he went should we keep this party going us three and then remember i was like
No, I hadn't broken up with my ex yet. No. But it was like there was struggle. Yeah. So the first time we met it was like an hour and a half. You're going, and then this happened and this happened and then I got this text. And then I'm going, wow, we love her. And you know what's so cute? Afterwards Rowdy was like to me, I think we should be like actual friends with her.
And I was like, I think we should. So we made an admission and now we are. I love Rowdy. Rowdy is like. Rowdy just like never fails to make me happy. I know. Like he is like one of the funniest people I know. So amazing. And just no matter what mood you're in, he'll always make you laugh. Yeah.
Like he's the type of friend that you could be doing the most boring thing and he'll make it fun, you know. Oh, so beautiful. Yeah. I love Juki Rowdy. I love. And Juki Abby.
Yeah. I go, right, I'm waiting for what I bring to your life.
Yeah.
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Chapter 4: How does Mitch navigate dating as a trans woman?
I don't think you should have to. And so, yeah, it was just kind of a very slow progression into what I am today. Like there was no sudden changes. It was like, oh, I might stop wearing a dress or, you know, and then I've also never told anyone in my family or like my inner circle what pronoun to call me. They've all just called on themselves and used common sense. Yeah.
And thought, well, she's obviously a she. They're eyes and they've gone, the Louboutins are on. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like. It was a very natural, slow progression. Did your parents consciously say, oh, we think Mitch wants to grow the hair out or were you asking for it? Do you know? I always wanted to have long hair. Okay. So they were like, oh, okay, Mitch wants this.
I was obsessed with long hair and every time I would get my hair cut as a child, I would cry. So cute. It was very nice. Clearly there was some other deep routine issues there. You go, in hindsight. Yeah, it wasn't just about the length of the spin ends being cut off. It was obviously because I felt like maybe it made me look or seem less feminine, I guess, having shorter hair. Yeah.
Do you have any moments that you were like, okay, yeah, I'm a girl? And when did they start calling you she again? Because being five, you don't have the language to go, oh, I'm trans. No, I didn't even know what that was. And did your parents know? I think they probably knew. Like they probably knew before I did. Yeah.
But like I was always like obsessed with Barbies, obsessed with girls' toys, like always dressed up as a girl. It was like whenever you'd play like Mums and Dads, I was always the mum. Like when we'd play High School Musical, I was always Sharpay. Yeah. You know? Oh, like fucking tracks.
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Chapter 5: What are Mitch's thoughts on hormone therapy and its effects?
Yeah. That's so good. When you would play brides and grooms. I was the bride. Kings and princesses. I was a princess. Yeah. Princess girl. Princess girl forever. So do you think your parents, did they start calling you she? Yeah, but not till I was older. Okay. Yeah. How old? I don't know when. When they started.
It was like, but it was also probably like, oh, you'd forget on this day and then you'd remember that day. Like it was never like. Like a slow change rather than suddenly one day. Yeah. Like people that come out, it is like a sudden one day. Yeah. Everyone has to call me this pronoun because it's what I am. But yours was just people were kind of. going off your vibes.
That sounds so silly, but like they're going, all right. They're just kind of connecting the dots themselves, honestly. Isn't that amazing? And like, cause I never made any announcements, but I was like, if you want to ask me a question, you can ask me a question, but I'm not going to do a big announcement. If you want to know something, ask.
And so as you were growing up, did you always internally say I'm a girl? Or did you not think about it? Because you don't think about gender when you're a kid. So were you thinking, I'm just me? Yeah.
Chapter 6: How does Mitch feel about surgeries related to gender transition?
Well, I always wanted to be a girl. And I would always, like, play the girl characters, as I said. Like, I always wanted to be a girl. But I... I didn't even know what trans was. Like I didn't actually know that that was possible. Like when I'm talking about when I was like five, I didn't know that was a thing. No, you didn't know what could do that. Being gay is when you're five or sexy.
You don't know what gender is. You can't even comprehend it. Yeah. I just wanted to look like a girl visually because I thought it looked nice. Beautiful. You saw Chopin. I did. That's a bit of me. That is a bit of me. My dream was to be an American teenage girl in high school and I never got that dream. Well, you got to be an Australian teenager girl at night. Yeah, but it's not the same.
You weren't allowed to decorate the lockers. No, no, no, kid outfits, uniforms. Walking around in a little skirt and high heels in school. Actually, on Mufti days I would wear stilettos. That is so cunt. That is so cunt. And it was like in the like Yeezy Kim K phase. Oh.
When, like, everyone would be in, like, those sock boots and, like, hoodies and, like, skinny jeans under the, like, thigh-high boots. Yeah, yeah, yeah, like Ariana Grande. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Era. Yeah, that's what I was showing up to school in my FG day. That is so hot. And the teachers, and they also never specified if you could wear heels or not.
So I was like, well, you didn't say you couldn't wear heels, but they never said it because they didn't think anyone would actually wear heels to school. I said, well, it's not in the rules.
Sorry.
It's so fun. When did you know that you, when did you have the language for saying that I'm trans? Probably high school, I'd say. Like I remember when, because it was like so uncommon, like even because I started high school in 2013, even then it was uncommon. And when I remember when it really started to become mainstream was when Caitlyn Jenner came out.
Oh my God.
Yeah. That was the moment, wasn't it? Yeah. I think it was 2015 or 16, if I remember correctly. And I remember we all woke up one day and Caitlyn Jenner's in a satin corset on the cover of Vanity Fair, you know, the world. Yeah. And we're like, wow. Yeah. That was kind of like everyone's introduction. And, you know, it was like one of the biggest reality shows at the time and to have,
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Chapter 7: What advice does Mitch have for parents of trans children?
You like a boy. And then they'd all tease that guy and tease me. And then that guy would hate me because he said that he liked me.
and thought that i was attractive and now he's getting teased for it so he's like oh i've got to be mean to you as well so every new boy that came to the school was always like nasty to me as well because of what the existing boys had done to them so i never had a um high school like relationship or anything not that i would have touched any of those boys with a 10-foot pole no but you know
That's awful. So you were like the go-to butt of the joke. Oh, always, yeah. And that was like early, mid-high school. And then I think in year 11 and 12 ā Everyone just like matured. And when you look back at it now, it's like, actually, that was quite a sudden change. And they all just stopped. And I think they all just realized that it's actually really nasty. Yeah.
And like some of them came and apologized to me. Did they? Yeah. Voluntarily? Yeah. Some, some did, some didn't like some were told to. And what did they say? The ones that were voluntary, were they like, Oh, you know, they're still teenage boys. So there were very few words. Yeah. I'm sorry about that. I was a bit of a dick. Yeah. That was the extent of it. Um, yeah. And then it just stopped.
And I, yeah, I think, you know, as you're becoming an adult, you realize why am I doing this? She's never done anything to me.
Like, yeah.
Yeah. And would they call you he or she? He. He. All high school? Yeah. I never told anyone what to say. So to their credit, they're not. No. I'm just wondering if they. Yeah. I never have told anyone what to call me, but yes, they would call me he. And how are the girls with you? None of the girls are ever nasty. The Chooks loved her. Not that I can remember. Yeah.
Like I was friends with all the girls. Yeah. And that's, I also think probably maybe some of the reason why the boys stopped being nasty to me because I was like, oh, they're all the girls that we want to date. Oh my God. And they're all best friends with Mitch. So maybe we should be nice to her. Oh my God.
Because then they see, because all the girls would see like an ugly side to them and be like, I'm not going near them. You're being mean to my friends. Yeah. Get fucked. So I think maybe that had something to do with it. Yeah. We were speaking at your birthday about the school that you went to, which was like a creative art school.
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Chapter 8: Does Mitch ever wish she was born a cis woman?
And then... She was like, yeah, because you were the trans kid. Like I was just worried like because that's all you'd hear about in the media. You'd hear about this trans person killed themselves and like all the statistics obviously of like obviously the suicide rates are so much higher with trans people.
But, yeah, I was like, oh, my gosh, I never knew that she felt like that or had that concern. I never knew that. You were also getting bullied hectically though as well. So that's the other thing. Did she know? Did you tell them? Yeah, sometimes. Like I wasn't ā but the thing was I also had really thick skin. So I wouldn't come home crying at all. Like I just ā I didn't ā
I don't know if I probably cried about it, but I had such thick skin because I'd been dealing with it since primary school. That's just what I thought school was, you know. Yeah, you were accustomed to it, unfortunately. But also maybe a little bit. Oh, I'm so grateful for it now. During the time it was awful, obviously. Hideous.
But for the job I do now and the career I have now, like I don't think I would have survived this career if I didn't go through that. Yeah. Like I just feel like everything happens for a reason. It was meant to be. Like thank God I have the thickest skin ever because I read the most disgusting things about myself every day and I can go right to sleep after reading this. Reading it.
And I had a lovely night's sleep, you know. Couldn't care less. You think I'm, like, disgusting. You think I'm ugly. I should kill myself. Like, cool. But literally nothing. Because you've been through so much. Yeah. Yeah. It's fucking crazy. I can't, I'm so sorry, but I didn't know that those boys were like kicking doors down and shit. And so were you using.
Well, they never kicked the, they never. Because the lanyard was really strong. They were trying their best. They were attempting. You could never get through. Wake little, you're going wake little boys. Try again. Come and get me. Yeah. Get your clerks into the door. Get heavier clogs. Get new ones. Remember the rocks? Yeah, the little heel that the girls would wear. Yeah.
Maybe they should have got those. They look a bit more durable. They absolutely should have. So were you using the boys' change room all throughout high school? No. Or did you change halfway through? Well, I ā
i can't remember what year it was maybe 10 or 9 my i think it was one of the year advisors came to me and she was like hey like i've noticed like maybe you don't want to use the boys bathroom so you can use this uh teachers but the disabled teachers bathroom which no one would use and it was like Yeah. Just like a vacant, vacant bathroom.
So they, my, my school is very like in between, like they wanted to make me comfortable, but they didn't want me to go with all the girls. Like even on school camp. Um, I remember I never wanted to go on school camp cause I was like, firstly, um, Camping. Yeah, camping. Secondly, I'm a six-year-old woman. I'm going to miss MasterChef. Yeah.
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