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"Gender is a negotiation" whether you realize it or not.

12 Mar 2025

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What does it even mean to be trans? That's the first question Torrey Peters asks readers in her new book, Stag Dance, and it's the question that everyone should be asking themselves right now.Stag Dance is a collection of four novellas that poke into the dark corners of gender, delving into taboo topics and investigating the line between trans and cis. Brittany sits down with Torrey to discuss Stag Dance, what makes a transition, and the raised stakes for trans people in the current political climate.Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoicesNPR Privacy Policy

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0.089 - 3.811 Robert Frahn

Conductor Robert Frahn says a good melody captures our attention.

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4.111 - 18.08

And then it moves you through time. Music is architecture in time. If you engage in the moment with what you're listening to, you do lose a sense of the time around you.

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18.46 - 22.983 Tanya Mosley

How we experience time. That's on the TED Radio Hour from NPR.

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24.263 - 40.948 Brittany Luce

A warning, this segment contains references to sex, sexuality, and rape. Hello, hello. I'm Brittany Luce, and you're listening to It's Been a Minute from NPR, a show about what's going on in culture and why it doesn't happen by accident.

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47.971 - 60.275 Torrey Peters

I think that oftentimes gender is actually a negotiation with all these people around us. The dream is that you live in a society where you can just say, this is who I want to be, and everybody accepts you. But in fact, they don't. You're sort of negotiating with people

62.526 - 65.687 Brittany Luce

My guest today is a repeat guest for the show.

66.107 - 67.287 Torrey Peters

It's amazing to be back.

67.847 - 90.739 Brittany Luce

That's author Tori Peters. She came on It's Been a Minute in 2021 to talk about her last book called Detransition Baby. It was a blockbuster of a novel that brought trans literature to a huge audience. And let me tell you, Tori is not afraid to ask the pointed questions about gender and our culture's relationship to it. Like, what does it even mean to be trans?

91.279 - 111.424 Brittany Luce

And what if all of us, cis and trans, had to choose our genders? That's exactly what she dives into in her new book called Stag Dance. It's a collection of four novellas. I'm here with Tori to explore the nuances of gender, desire, and performance, and the stakes of writing this book in our current political climate.

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